Latest / Becker's Healthcare Behavioral Health / Mandy Fauble, PhD, LCSW, Vice President of Operations at UPMC Western Behavioral Health
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- 0:00Welcome everyone to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:02I'm Ryan Muhammad, writer and moderator with Becker's
- 0:05Healthcare. I'm thrilled to have with me today
- 0:07doctor Mandy Fauble, vice president of operations at
- 0:10UPMC Western Behavioral Health. Doctor, welcome to the
- 0:14podcast. We're very excited to have you join
- 0:15us today. To get us started, would you
- 0:17mind please introducing yourself and telling us a
- 0:19bit about your background?
- 0:21Sure thing. Well, thanks for having me. As
- 0:23you mentioned, I'm doctor Mandy Fauble, and I
- 0:25work for UPMC Western Behavioral Health.
- 0:28And during my career, I've spent most of
- 0:30my time working in crisis services,
- 0:33in community mental health, and in academia. I'm
- 0:36a social worker by training and love doing
- 0:39community collaboration,
- 0:41And I'm so proud to be at UPMC,
- 0:43which was recently ranked number seven in the
- 0:46nation for psychiatry.
- 0:47So a really truly wonderful place to be
- 0:50practicing in behavioral health.
- 0:52Absolutely. Thank you so much for that background.
- 0:55So what opportunities and headwinds do you have
- 0:58your eye on right now?
- 1:00Oh my gosh. So many. Probably for me,
- 1:03the top ranking ones are, first, the changing
- 1:06workforce.
- 1:07You know, we're seeing all kinds of new
- 1:09technologies arise in both the technical sense. I
- 1:12think we are all familiar with what's happening
- 1:14in,
- 1:15for instance, AI and in apps and just
- 1:18in technology that can help us work
- 1:20more smartly, more efficiently.
- 1:23But even things like advances in medication
- 1:26and things like the types of workers
- 1:29that are out there in the workforce, there's
- 1:31just so much changing
- 1:33that I think attending to how our technology
- 1:36is changing and who
- 1:38can deploy that technology and how we can
- 1:40evolve that to be more
- 1:42efficient is so critical.
- 1:45There are also so many more positive opportunities
- 1:48right now in collaboration.
- 1:50We can collaborate more across health and social
- 1:53services
- 1:54than ever before. It's so strong. I see
- 1:57that in emerging practices, for instance, like core
- 2:00response programs and crisis intervention or things like
- 2:04the expansion of 988 and the buildup of
- 2:06the crisis care continuum really across the country,
- 2:10things like partnerships
- 2:12between housing providers and health care entities,
- 2:15or even things like specialty care coordination
- 2:18among different types of health care practices.
- 2:21So,
- 2:22of course, both of those things mean multiplying
- 2:25and leveraging our resources
- 2:27differently, thinking more creatively,
- 2:30and, again, helping to expand our workforce by
- 2:33teaming
- 2:34and by embracing some of these technology
- 2:37innovations
- 2:38and practice innovations that we're seeing all around
- 2:40us.
- 2:42Absolutely. Thank you so much for that information.
- 2:44And how are you thinking about growth and
- 2:46adding value to your organization this year or
- 2:49within the next couple years?
- 2:51I love that question because I love to
- 2:53think about value and values.
- 2:56And so I think growth in health care
- 2:58services
- 2:59must continue to support the core of our
- 3:02collective mission, which is truly patient care.
- 3:06So, ultimately, I think any growth that we're
- 3:09contemplating
- 3:09has to be framed in that lens, one
- 3:12that is supporting both our critical and foundation
- 3:15services, like, again, our crisis intervention,
- 3:18programming,
- 3:19or things like our outpatient medication services.
- 3:22And then by strengthening those types of services
- 3:25and bringing them to people who maybe have
- 3:28not had those opportunities to experience them, such
- 3:31as people in rural areas
- 3:33where growth may mean reaching people that have
- 3:35had a harder time accessing care.
- 3:38And so I think about,
- 3:40strengthening our crisis programming and our core services
- 3:44and then thinking about how do we focus
- 3:47on our workforce.
- 3:48Because the workforce
- 3:50truly is key to making any of the
- 3:52services
- 3:53not just possible, but they're really truly where
- 3:57the quality comes from, where the success comes
- 3:59from.
- 4:00So anything that can help our employee experience,
- 4:03and that might mean training,
- 4:05more learning and development opportunities,
- 4:08developing more supportive
- 4:09workplace where the staff
- 4:11are given opportunities to take ownership of their
- 4:14tasks and and sort of leave their mark
- 4:16on this space. You know, I am fortunate
- 4:19to work in two locations
- 4:21where
- 4:22staff have actually wanted to support gardening activities.
- 4:25And that's such a small example of an
- 4:29activity that really beautifies the environment, but it
- 4:31also creates opportunities for engagement.
- 4:34And so I think about any way that
- 4:37we can further
- 4:39help our workforce
- 4:41to be deeply engaged
- 4:43is really important to any type of growth
- 4:46that we're going to do,
- 4:48as organizations.
- 4:50And in that same, like, relationship based
- 4:53spirit,
- 4:54when I think about growing the organization,
- 4:57I think it's really about relationships
- 4:59and
- 5:00how we collaborate and partner across types of
- 5:03organizations.
- 5:04Even, you know, when we think about adding
- 5:07value to our own organization, part of that
- 5:09is helping other people see our value too
- 5:12and see the value that they contribute to
- 5:14our work, we contribute to theirs, and that
- 5:17we together
- 5:19and better support our communities.
- 5:21So in health care, you know, in the
- 5:23system, like, for instance, as large as EPMC,
- 5:26that might mean finding new ways to care
- 5:28for teams together.
- 5:31For instance, one of the teams I support
- 5:33just partnered with our health plan
- 5:36to enhance services for housing case management
- 5:39and to truly enhance
- 5:41housing as health care opportunities.
- 5:44But it could also mean new partnerships in
- 5:47the community.
- 5:48For instance, student success
- 5:50and working in the educational
- 5:52setting. It could mean permanent supportive housing,
- 5:56crisis core response. In so many ways, quite
- 5:59frankly, this is just when we think about
- 6:02our patients holistically,
- 6:04we understand that health is intertwined with every
- 6:07life domain,
- 6:08and
- 6:09partnering together enhances the person's overall wellness. So,
- 6:13the sky's the limit, really, for me.
- 6:16Yeah. That's definitely amazing. I love the idea
- 6:19of servicing the rural communities.
- 6:22They're definitely in need right now.
- 6:24So that's amazing.
- 6:26What do you think is one risk or
- 6:28investment,
- 6:29worth making this year?
- 6:32Oh, well, this is, like, a super hard
- 6:35question, I think.
- 6:37Probably, you can tell by talking to me
- 6:39that I'm
- 6:41really deeply interested in
- 6:43integrated health care and then partnering across systems
- 6:46and integrating across systems. So, you know, for
- 6:49me, I think the risk worth taking is
- 6:51always, always
- 6:53the one where we contemplate a new partnership
- 6:55or a new relationship of some kind, whether
- 6:58that means moving into a new community,
- 7:00a new geographical
- 7:02area, a new,
- 7:04specialty area, or even just building a new
- 7:06strategic relationship.
- 7:08For instance, as I mentioned, the team that
- 7:10I support recently
- 7:12has partnered with our health plan to address
- 7:14housing insecurity,
- 7:16And this really pushed us because, of course,
- 7:19the work that we're most familiar with is
- 7:22more traditional behavioral health services. But by pushing
- 7:26into that space,
- 7:28we are finding
- 7:29new ways to support people
- 7:32and certainly new ways to,
- 7:34support our organization because I think we all
- 7:37know that there's no one thing. There's no
- 7:40one investment, one risk,
- 7:43one ultimate payoff. What we can be sure
- 7:45of though is that being stagnant
- 7:48is unhealthy for any living organism,
- 7:51and an organization's truly a living organism. So
- 7:55leaning into strategic change is kind of always
- 7:58a winning mindset.
- 8:00And I think following
- 8:02sort of those rules of thumb that
- 8:05you want to pull your resources in ways
- 8:07that are going to diversify your core competencies,
- 8:11improve your revenue streams or create more diverse
- 8:14revenue streams, reduce expense,
- 8:17build strategic alliances, or even things like improving
- 8:19your advocacy opportunities
- 8:21because
- 8:22you are bringing more people to the table
- 8:25for that conversation.
- 8:26I think those are always wise. And, again,
- 8:28the relationship
- 8:30is always the risk worth taking.
- 8:33Absolutely. Definitely agree with you there. And, doctor,
- 8:35before I let you go, the last thing
- 8:37I wanted to ask you is where do
- 8:38you see the best opportunities for growth in
- 8:41in the future?
- 8:43Oh my gosh. Well, Mariah, you are going
- 8:46to think I'm a broken record here because
- 8:49I think, again, I'm going to stay in
- 8:51partnership.
- 8:52I think as a behavioral health professional and
- 8:55as someone talking to you on a behavioral
- 8:58health podcast,
- 9:00I I think it's important that we collectively
- 9:03start to emphasize more that behavioral health is
- 9:05truly part of every domain of human life.
- 9:09So, really, the possibilities
- 9:12for partnership
- 9:13are just
- 9:14endless.
- 9:15Things like supporting students in school to be
- 9:18more successful,
- 9:19diverting people from the justice system,
- 9:22helping people to manage their physical health more
- 9:25effectively,
- 9:26thinking about living in the community more easily
- 9:30because of
- 9:31their ability to navigate the complex social systems.
- 9:35These are all ways that we can bring
- 9:39the skill of behavioral health to the table.
- 9:42And when we help people understand
- 9:45that behavioral health care,
- 9:47we're a really great addition to those tables,
- 9:50you know, that we can help them understand
- 9:52how managing behavioral health well
- 9:55often helps to reduce cost in many systems.
- 9:58It reduces complications
- 10:01in other types of settings.
- 10:03And, ultimately,
- 10:05when we improve the health of our community
- 10:07members, we all gain something from that.
- 10:10So,
- 10:11that teaming and that partnership and that leaning
- 10:14into community
- 10:16continue to feel very, very important to me
- 10:20as does
- 10:21embracing
- 10:23technology
- 10:24and
- 10:25new
- 10:26innovations that help us
- 10:28build that community in different ways. You know,
- 10:30things like the use of telehealth
- 10:33or remote patient monitoring or even apps that
- 10:37can be used to bridge people together.
- 10:40All all this partnership
- 10:42and teaming
- 10:43really will will require us also to lean
- 10:46on our innovations that make that work more
- 10:48more easily accomplished.
- 10:51Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That definitely makes a lot
- 10:53of sense, and thank you so much for
- 10:55those final thoughts. It's definitely been a very
- 10:57form informative discussion. So, again, I wanna thank
- 10:59you so much for coming on back to
- 11:01health care, especially for the first time. And
- 11:03I look forward to connecting with you again
- 11:05soon. Thanks,
- 11:07Mariah.