Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / BONUS: Wired To Hunt’s Rut Radio 10/26/16
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- 0:01Speaker 1: What's up, every one? This is Mark Kenyon and welcome
- 0:03Speaker 1: to this week's installment of Wired to Hunt's RUT radio miniseries.
- 0:08Speaker 1: And I'm here again with Spencer new Hearth, who's going
- 0:12Speaker 1: to be checking in momentarily with a series of hunters
- 0:14Speaker 1: across the country who are gonna be failing us in
- 0:17Speaker 1: on what kind of RUT related activity they've been seeing
- 0:19Speaker 1: over the past week and what tactics they're using right
- 0:22Speaker 1: now to hunt mature bucks. So that's the plan, right Spencer? Ah, Yeah,
- 0:28Speaker 1: and uh, it's great here in salth Dakota. The only
- 0:30Speaker 1: thing that would make it better is if it was November.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I know they countdown to November is something we're all
- 0:36Speaker 1: excited about, but I don't know what's I'm kind of curious.
- 0:40Speaker 1: I want to reverse this on you really fast here,
- 0:42Speaker 1: because you call these hunters and you're asking them about
- 0:45Speaker 1: the overall activity from one to ten where they're hunting
- 0:48Speaker 1: based on what you've heard so far. What do you
- 0:51Speaker 1: think the number is if you had to average it
- 0:54Speaker 1: out across everywhere everyone you've talked to you so far,
- 0:57Speaker 1: if you had to put one number on the RUT
- 0:58Speaker 1: related activities so or what is your number, you would say,
- 1:02Speaker 1: based on the calls I've had today, probably a five. Five. Yeah,
- 1:08Speaker 1: but it's like it's an anticipation five. If there is
- 1:11Speaker 1: such a thing, I like that. Everybody kind of says it,
- 1:15Speaker 1: um with with a glimmer of hope you can hear it.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And uh, you know, they're all kind of waiting on
- 1:20Speaker 1: one of two things, either a cold front to roll
- 1:22Speaker 1: through in the next week or so or the calendar
- 1:25Speaker 1: to flip in November. So um, everybody shares the same
- 1:30Speaker 1: feelings that it's only gonna get better from here on out. Yeah,
- 1:34Speaker 1: for sure. Now, I gotta tell you though, my number,
- 1:37Speaker 1: my personal number, is way different than what you guys
- 1:40Speaker 1: are are seeing so far. I gotta I gotta say
- 1:44Speaker 1: right now, Spencer, my number is like a nine. No way, Yes,
- 1:48Speaker 1: my numbers and nine. I had the best hunt of
- 1:51Speaker 1: the year last night, and I've seen a crazy amount
- 1:55Speaker 1: of activity. So do you want can I tell you
- 1:57Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? I want to hear about it. Yeah, okay,
- 2:01Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give you the super cliff notes version.
- 2:03Speaker 1: But long story short, last night I saw five mature bucks.
- 2:07Speaker 1: I saw my number one, Shooter holy Field, and the
- 2:12Speaker 1: other two mature bucks I've had in trail camera. I
- 2:15Speaker 1: then saw those same two bucks, a three and a
- 2:17Speaker 1: half year old and a four and a half year old.
- 2:19Speaker 1: I saw them again this morning, and both times last
- 2:22Speaker 1: night and today they're chasing dose around. Also last night
- 2:26Speaker 1: I had a three and a half year old the
- 2:27Speaker 1: two and a half year old fighting. They're sparring out
- 2:29Speaker 1: in the middle of a bean field. And then you know,
- 2:33Speaker 1: spoiler alert, I got to full draw on holy Field
- 2:37Speaker 1: the number one buck I've been after here in Michigan.
- 2:39Speaker 1: He came in chasing a dough into my food plot.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Well actually snort wheezed him into the food plot. Then
- 2:43Speaker 1: when he got into the food plot, he bumped a
- 2:45Speaker 1: dough and then ran through my shooting lane. And when
- 2:47Speaker 1: I got to full draw, he was already a like
- 2:49Speaker 1: forty yards and it was just too dark. Um, but
- 2:52Speaker 1: I had a crazy, crazy hunt. And then again this morning,
- 2:54Speaker 1: Like I said, they're out in broad daylight, like an
- 2:56Speaker 1: hour and a half after daylight, run around in the field,
- 2:58Speaker 1: chasing does a four year old in Michigan That doesn't
- 3:00Speaker 1: happen very often. So I'm on like a serious adrelling
- 3:04Speaker 1: restaurant right now. And as soon as we get done
- 3:06Speaker 1: recording this, I'm heading out into the woods and trying
- 3:09Speaker 1: to get another crack at them. So it's a nine
- 3:11Speaker 1: here in southern Michigan. Yeah. So you say in Michigan
- 3:14Speaker 1: this doesn't happen very often. Why do you think it
- 3:17Speaker 1: is happening? Is there something different very local to you,
- 3:20Speaker 1: or what's going on? Well, I'd say two things. I think.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Number one, I try to keep the hunting pressure as
- 3:25Speaker 1: low as possible on the specific piece of property. So
- 3:27Speaker 1: these deer feel really comfortable out moving in daylight more
- 3:31Speaker 1: than most areas, just because I'm so obsessive about that.
- 3:33Speaker 1: So that might, you know, account for some of the activity,
- 3:36Speaker 1: the daylight activity. But the reason why I really think
- 3:38Speaker 1: things got going is that we had a fifteen degree
- 3:40Speaker 1: temperature drop hip and we have very high barometric pressure
- 3:44Speaker 1: and it's rising up to like the highest I've seen
- 3:46Speaker 1: it all hunting season so far today. Um So according
- 3:49Speaker 1: to a lot of people like Mark Dreary and all
- 3:51Speaker 1: those guys, that's one of those key indicators that really
- 3:54Speaker 1: gets dear moving. Um So that's why I went out
- 3:57Speaker 1: last night because I was like, these conditions look great,
- 4:00Speaker 1: and um I think the final piece of the puzzle
- 4:02Speaker 1: is that there must be a dough or two that
- 4:04Speaker 1: is like just about coming to estus, you know, pretty
- 4:07Speaker 1: early compared to most doughes. So either they're just about
- 4:09Speaker 1: coming or there actually is a dough that's already in
- 4:11Speaker 1: the heat early. Because these bucks, you know, they're ready
- 4:14Speaker 1: to go, at least from what I've seen. You know,
- 4:17Speaker 1: it's not abnormal to see little, you know, year and
- 4:19Speaker 1: a half old bucks bumping around does early, you know,
- 4:21Speaker 1: chasing around because they're ready to go, but the does
- 4:23Speaker 1: aren't ready. But I don't see four year old bucks
- 4:26Speaker 1: in Michigan chasing does around this time of year, you know,
- 4:29Speaker 1: partly because there's not many four year old bucks around here.
- 4:31Speaker 1: But usually they're smart enough not to be chasing does
- 4:34Speaker 1: until you know it's actually meaningful to do. So, So
- 4:38Speaker 1: things are, things are ripping and roaring right now. Yeah,
- 4:41Speaker 1: So I don't know why you're sitting here talking to me.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Then that's a good question. It's very good. Like I said,
- 4:48Speaker 1: I'm going to be hitting the woods in a matter
- 4:50Speaker 1: of minutes, So I guess we should keep this short too, then, Spencer,
- 4:53Speaker 1: So I guess who do we have? Who do we
- 4:55Speaker 1: have on Slate today. Oh, we start off in Missouri
- 4:58Speaker 1: with Matt Jrewery of Juliel Doors, and then we talked
- 5:00Speaker 1: to A. J. Gall of Legendary White Tales in Wisconsin.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Then we have Eric Long in Ohio of Drumming Log
- 5:08Speaker 1: Wildlife Management. Then we have John Armand in North Dakota
- 5:11Speaker 1: with Ultimate Outdoor Adventures TV. And finally we talked to
- 5:14Speaker 1: Tim Bieble in Vermont with the four pointer dot Com. Nice.
- 5:19Speaker 1: I like it. We've got a good swath of the
- 5:20Speaker 1: country covered there, and uh, I'm excited to hear. I'm
- 5:24Speaker 1: excited to hear what they have to offer. Is there
- 5:26Speaker 1: is there anything we need to cover before we're jumping
- 5:29Speaker 1: into these interviews. Um, you know, I think one thing
- 5:32Speaker 1: we need to stress is is how timely that these
- 5:35Speaker 1: interviews are. Um. You know, I got some feedback last
- 5:37Speaker 1: week after the podcast, people asking you know, hey, when
- 5:39Speaker 1: were these recordings done and when did you interview these
- 5:42Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. Um, but we gotta stress
- 5:46Speaker 1: how timely this is. You know, we're having this conversation
- 5:48Speaker 1: on Tuesday, this podcast is going to go up on Wednesday,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and all these interviews I did were today and all
- 5:55Speaker 1: these people give me the reports based on sightings from
- 5:58Speaker 1: the last couple of days. So this is as relevant
- 6:02Speaker 1: as it gets, I guess for for buck activity. Yeah,
- 6:05Speaker 1: that's a great point. And that's that's why I love
- 6:07Speaker 1: about this is that we're giving you such current intel.
- 6:10Speaker 1: We're trying to give you as current intel as we
- 6:12Speaker 1: possibly can. So yeah, these reports are as of today,
- 6:15Speaker 1: and if you're listening to this on Wednesday, they're less
- 6:17Speaker 1: than twenty four hours old. So um, you can definitely
- 6:19Speaker 1: take some of us apply it to your hunts in
- 6:21Speaker 1: the coming days. And uh and I don't know, Spencer,
- 6:24Speaker 1: if if you think we're ready, I'm ready to get
- 6:26Speaker 1: right into it. Yeah, you you better get to the
- 6:29Speaker 1: tree stand, all right, man, wish me luck? All right,
- 6:31Speaker 1: thanks Mart, But quickly before we get to our first update.
- 6:35Speaker 1: As all Weird Hunt podcasts are, this episode is brought
- 6:38Speaker 1: to you by Sitka Gear. If you'd like to learn
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- 6:44Speaker 1: Sitka gear dot com. And now onto the show and
- 6:49Speaker 1: joining us on the phone. First is general manager for
- 6:52Speaker 1: Drewelry Outdoors, Matt Drewlry. Now, Matt, I know you've been
- 6:55Speaker 1: hunting northern Missouri. But of course you get connections in
- 6:58Speaker 1: Iowa and Illinois and other player cecil on a scale
- 7:01Speaker 1: of one to ten in your area, what would you
- 7:04Speaker 1: say the bucket activity was for this last week? You know,
- 7:08Speaker 1: I think probably still in the three to four range.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I mean, it's still pretty low, you know. That being said,
- 7:14Speaker 1: of course, you know Mark Drew killed the biggest deer
- 7:17Speaker 1: of his life in Iowa, um on Friday. But you know,
- 7:22Speaker 1: the conditions were just really ideal there. It was the
- 7:25Speaker 1: first south after a bunch of nors. It was high
- 7:27Speaker 1: pressure day deer in general. I think he said he
- 7:30Speaker 1: saw like fifteen or sixteen deer that morning, So it
- 7:33Speaker 1: was a it was a good deer movement day. It
- 7:36Speaker 1: really didn't necessarily have anything to do with you know,
- 7:39Speaker 1: rut conditions or whatever. It was just a good movement day.
- 7:41Speaker 1: And so he hit the conditions just right. Of course,
- 7:44Speaker 1: he he knew um the deer that he was after.
- 7:48Speaker 1: He knew that he was in his bedroom there. He
- 7:50Speaker 1: had put up a blind five days before that, so
- 7:53Speaker 1: he he he was after that one specific deer, and
- 7:56Speaker 1: he thought he'd have a pretty good chance that morning
- 7:58Speaker 1: with those conditions. But that being said, you know that
- 8:01Speaker 1: was you know, that's obviously a really highly managed piece
- 8:05Speaker 1: of land. I think I think that specific piece of
- 8:07Speaker 1: dirt was acres um. But he you know, he's surrounded
- 8:11Speaker 1: by a lot of um property there where they all managed.
- 8:15Speaker 1: So you know, my specific lease, which is about an
- 8:19Speaker 1: hour north of St. Louis where I hunt primarily. I mean,
- 8:22Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's still it's still got a
- 8:24Speaker 1: little bit to go. And and frankly, I think this
- 8:28Speaker 1: week with the warm temperatures is not really going to
- 8:30Speaker 1: do us any favors. I think, you know, everybody looks
- 8:32Speaker 1: forward to the last week of October. In the first
- 8:35Speaker 1: couple of weeks in November, uh, you know where the
- 8:38Speaker 1: deer activity and the running activity really starts. But um,
- 8:42Speaker 1: I have a feeling, you know, if if the temperatures
- 8:45Speaker 1: are in the eighties, it may be a lot of
- 8:47Speaker 1: movement at night. Your trail cameras might show you that,
- 8:50Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the stuff is happening at night.
- 8:52Speaker 1: And if there are any cool mornings, I think mornings
- 8:55Speaker 1: could start getting good here and you'll see, you know,
- 8:58Speaker 1: a lot of the jury outdoors got eyes, will start
- 9:00Speaker 1: hunting mornings right around now. So Um, yeah, I think
- 9:04Speaker 1: it could get good, but the warm temperatures certainly are
- 9:07Speaker 1: not going to help her cause here. And so for
- 9:09Speaker 1: that haunt that Mark was on when he shot that
- 9:12Speaker 1: incredible buck, what was his strategy that morning? Was he
- 9:14Speaker 1: pretty aggressive? Was he hunting near their bed? Was he
- 9:16Speaker 1: hunting a field edge of what was going on there? Yeah,
- 9:20Speaker 1: he was really aggressive. Like I said, he he was
- 9:22Speaker 1: in this dear's bedroom and uh, he had just erected
- 9:27Speaker 1: this muddy bowl. It's a scent proof blind that he
- 9:30Speaker 1: had put up like five days before that, and it
- 9:33Speaker 1: was on the kind of an edge of a little
- 9:35Speaker 1: field and next to the timber and this, uh, this
- 9:38Speaker 1: buck was actually he said that there was a three
- 9:41Speaker 1: and a half year old that was I think he
- 9:44Speaker 1: was making a rub on a tree right next to him,
- 9:48Speaker 1: and that noise, he felt like, alerted the buck he
- 9:53Speaker 1: was after to to kind of come out there and
- 9:56Speaker 1: and stay in his ground. And he said he was
- 9:57Speaker 1: watching this three and a half and also the demeanor
- 10:01Speaker 1: just instantly changed and he looked back, his ears went
- 10:04Speaker 1: back and he took off running. And Mark instantly said
- 10:07Speaker 1: to his camera guy said, there's a big deer on here.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Somewhere and before he knew it, he looked up and
- 10:11Speaker 1: this this the buck he was after. Danger walked out right, uh,
- 10:16Speaker 1: fifteen steps from him, and he came on five steps
- 10:19Speaker 1: of the blind. He was headed towards where this other
- 10:22Speaker 1: buck was, uh, and Mark shot him at five steps.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Pretty pretty unbelievable. But yes, he got very aggressive and
- 10:29Speaker 1: got in on his bedroom. But he had the right
- 10:32Speaker 1: conditions that morning. Yeah, that's incredible. So Mark was around
- 10:35Speaker 1: some you know, typical late October deer sign. There are
- 10:39Speaker 1: you seeing a lot of scrapes and rubs in your area? Yeah? Absolutely.
- 10:43Speaker 1: I switched all my cameras over about a week ago
- 10:46Speaker 1: to uh two scrapes, and it's definitely starting. Uh they're
- 10:50Speaker 1: starting to pop up everywhere on my lease. So it's
- 10:54Speaker 1: it's a good sign, you know. But all the pictures
- 10:57Speaker 1: primarily or still we're still happening in the middle of
- 11:00Speaker 1: the night, so um, you know. But it was warm,
- 11:03Speaker 1: so I I really feel like, you know, coming up here.
- 11:07Speaker 1: I looked at the extended forecast, and you know, the
- 11:09Speaker 1: ten days not overly great. I think next Tuesday, like
- 11:13Speaker 1: next Monday, it's supposed to be eighty degrees Uh. In
- 11:16Speaker 1: my area, and then Tuesday drops the seventy two. I
- 11:19Speaker 1: think Wednesdays, the day that I'm kind of circling, it
- 11:21Speaker 1: drops down the sixty six. But if you think about it,
- 11:24Speaker 1: you know, it's still it's still really warm for November
- 11:28Speaker 1: the two you're just trying to catch some cold weather
- 11:31Speaker 1: that the deer is still going to be doing what
- 11:33Speaker 1: they do. But you know, with that warm weather and
- 11:35Speaker 1: Monday it's eighty degrees, so I could certainly foresee a
- 11:39Speaker 1: lot of that movement happening in the middle of the night.
- 11:41Speaker 1: And of course your trail cameras are going to show
- 11:43Speaker 1: you that, especially if you have them on scrapes right now,
- 11:46Speaker 1: you're gonna find out, you know, if they're moving in
- 11:49Speaker 1: the middle of the day or if they're moving all
- 11:50Speaker 1: you know, to three four am. That then you keep
- 11:53Speaker 1: you know, what you're dealing with their um. That's not
- 11:56Speaker 1: to say you can't catch one on their feet, and
- 11:59Speaker 1: you know, and the more warning when it's still cool out,
- 12:01Speaker 1: but it definitely doesn't help her cause. Yeah, And so
- 12:04Speaker 1: with that said, going forward, what would you expect the
- 12:07Speaker 1: buck activity be on a scale of one to ten
- 12:09Speaker 1: for like these next ten days or so, Well, you
- 12:14Speaker 1: know that last couple of days. Halloween is always a
- 12:16Speaker 1: date that everybody you know as circles, is a good
- 12:19Speaker 1: dear day. But just looking at that forecast, it's a
- 12:22Speaker 1: high eighty and a low of sixty here in in
- 12:25Speaker 1: in the St. Louis, you know area. I'm sure most
- 12:28Speaker 1: of the Midwest is gonna be dealing with that. So
- 12:30Speaker 1: I would not, um, you know, the activity is going
- 12:34Speaker 1: to be happening, But like I said, I just feel
- 12:36Speaker 1: like it might be happening in the middle of the
- 12:39Speaker 1: night unfortunately. So you know, I'm not very excited about
- 12:44Speaker 1: the weather forecast. Unfortunately. I really think it could be
- 12:47Speaker 1: tough here in the next ten days. So I would
- 12:50Speaker 1: be shocked if the deer movement daylight is a five
- 12:54Speaker 1: six because of the temperatures that that's you know, and
- 12:58Speaker 1: I could be wrong, who knows. But um, if after
- 13:01Speaker 1: this first ten days here, you know, if the first
- 13:04Speaker 1: two weeks in November get really cold, then look out,
- 13:07Speaker 1: I'd say it could be really really good because that's
- 13:09Speaker 1: always a period that's good anyways. So I would say
- 13:12Speaker 1: that those uh, you know, if if we get some
- 13:15Speaker 1: cold weather, look out for the fourth through the you know,
- 13:18Speaker 1: through the Yeah, and like I told a couple of
- 13:21Speaker 1: guys on last week's show on I'll be hoping for
- 13:24Speaker 1: a cold front for you. So yeah, that's what everybody
- 13:27Speaker 1: really wishes far, you know, especially the guys that are
- 13:30Speaker 1: taking a week off of vacation or have already scheduled
- 13:33Speaker 1: that week off. You know, the one thing you can't
- 13:35Speaker 1: control is what what Mother Nature does with the weather.
- 13:38Speaker 1: And so I think everybody's got their fingers crossed that
- 13:41Speaker 1: hopefully a cold front comes in. Yeah. Absolutely, well, good luck,
- 13:44Speaker 1: Matt and uh we look forward to the footage of
- 13:46Speaker 1: of Mark's deer and we'll keep falling along with the
- 13:49Speaker 1: rest of Drewy Outdoor team. Yeah, please do follow us
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- 14:00Speaker 1: We're constantly putting up new new videos, so be sure
- 14:03Speaker 1: to follow us and check it out. We'll do, thanks
- 14:05Speaker 1: Matt and joining us on the phone. Next is legendary
- 14:09Speaker 1: White Tails content manager A J. Gol a J. Huntson Wisconsin. So,
- 14:14Speaker 1: A G what would you say, on a scale of
- 14:16Speaker 1: one to ten, the deer activity has been lately. Yeah,
- 14:20Speaker 1: I would definitely say, this past week, it's starting to
- 14:22Speaker 1: ramp up. I would I guess right now, I'd probably
- 14:25Speaker 1: put it at about a stick. And so are you
- 14:28Speaker 1: basing that off of some hunts you've had lately, or
- 14:30Speaker 1: some scouting or trail Cama activity or what's giving you
- 14:33Speaker 1: that info with being it being a six? Yeah, I
- 14:37Speaker 1: would say, Um, I came to came to six because
- 14:40Speaker 1: of a recent hunt, I've had, trail Cama activity, and
- 14:45Speaker 1: what other bodies are having in this area. It definitely
- 14:47Speaker 1: seems like this last weekend quite a few mature box
- 14:51Speaker 1: at the ground stuff was starting to be a little
- 14:53Speaker 1: more daylight active. Um. Scrapes are scrapes are getting hit
- 14:57Speaker 1: hard right now. UM, and the cold front coming up,
- 15:00Speaker 1: so it should be this whole week should be pretty good.
- 15:03Speaker 1: And and I kind of limited it at the six
- 15:05Speaker 1: just because I got high hopes for the next next
- 15:09Speaker 1: couple of weeks to come. So, so have you started
- 15:12Speaker 1: haunting aggressive yet or is that all going to change
- 15:14Speaker 1: for you here coming up at the end of October. Yeah,
- 15:18Speaker 1: it's gonna be. This week. Um, kind of kind of
- 15:21Speaker 1: been pretty pretty laid back, not too aggressive so far. UM,
- 15:26Speaker 1: but especially with this this cold front, this week is
- 15:29Speaker 1: pretty pretty good weather all around. Um, it'll be ramping
- 15:33Speaker 1: up this week. I've got vacation the fifth through th
- 15:38Speaker 1: of November, so but I'll be out as much as
- 15:41Speaker 1: I can these next two weeks for sure. And so
- 15:44Speaker 1: your buddies, you have been having success in that area,
- 15:47Speaker 1: Um have There's been more of morning since or evening since. Um.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Both actually, so I had to that that tag pretty
- 15:55Speaker 1: nice box this past weekend. Um. The one was morning
- 15:59Speaker 1: and there's two of them out and that was kind
- 16:02Speaker 1: of the western side of Wisconsin and Burnet County. Um.
- 16:05Speaker 1: And they had a lot of activity in the morning,
- 16:07Speaker 1: he said, all the way through about ten am is
- 16:11Speaker 1: about when they got down. But they had pretty content activity,
- 16:13Speaker 1: a lot of stuff running around. UM kind of nose
- 16:16Speaker 1: and does you know, not nothing too hard and crazy yet.
- 16:19Speaker 1: And then the afternoon that was kind of he wasn't.
- 16:23Speaker 1: I wasn't doing much of any type of running activity
- 16:26Speaker 1: other than just kind of being curious and walking during
- 16:30Speaker 1: daylight and feeding along a cut soybean field. So, UM,
- 16:34Speaker 1: this morning on the way to work, saw some saw
- 16:36Speaker 1: some running across the field wide open. So definitely starting
- 16:40Speaker 1: to turn up here a little bit. And so do
- 16:43Speaker 1: you think their food sources have changed? You said that
- 16:45Speaker 1: one um was a soybean field. Do you think they're
- 16:47Speaker 1: still you know, hitting the hardwoods itself or the on
- 16:51Speaker 1: agriculture right now? Yeah, my area we were pretty dominated
- 16:55Speaker 1: by um by farmland and the woods we do have,
- 16:59Speaker 1: they're not usually that heavy and oaks. There's a lot
- 17:02Speaker 1: of maples down here, so we don't have to worry
- 17:04Speaker 1: about huge acorn crops. Um. But I would say right
- 17:09Speaker 1: now they're starting to hit the corn fields. Soybeans are
- 17:12Speaker 1: mostly coming off, so if they're not getting plowed under
- 17:14Speaker 1: right away, they're definitely browsing in those because all the
- 17:17Speaker 1: beans are knocked onto the ground. Um. But yeah, crops
- 17:21Speaker 1: are changing this week, they're going to continue for the
- 17:23Speaker 1: next week and a half. I would say that corn
- 17:25Speaker 1: is gonna start to come off, so those cut corn
- 17:27Speaker 1: fields are gonna be gonna be hot for a while.
- 17:30Speaker 1: So you would say, if you were hunting a field
- 17:32Speaker 1: edge right now, that would maybe give you your best
- 17:35Speaker 1: shot is a cut corn field over anything else. Yeah.
- 17:39Speaker 1: For me, I would, um, you know, probably about a
- 17:42Speaker 1: week or so, that's kind of when I start hitting
- 17:43Speaker 1: the pinch points and funnels. More travel corridors type stuff.
- 17:47Speaker 1: But I think right now they're just kind of wanting
- 17:49Speaker 1: to to feel and play around with those doughs, and
- 17:51Speaker 1: those doughs are gonna be likely, you know, outfeeding in
- 17:55Speaker 1: those recently cut crop fields or or even food pots
- 17:59Speaker 1: if you got them. So, um, those those bucks are
- 18:02Speaker 1: getting nosy right now, especially the young ones. They're the
- 18:04Speaker 1: ones that are are really moving around. Um So, but yeah,
- 18:09Speaker 1: definitely target the the field edges of recently cut crops.
- 18:14Speaker 1: So what about going forward for this next week or so,
- 18:17Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activities are gonna be
- 18:19Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten children By what
- 18:21Speaker 1: the weather is coming up, I would say it's it's
- 18:23Speaker 1: going to ramp up too. I think it's gonna be
- 18:26Speaker 1: really really good first or this end of the end
- 18:29Speaker 1: of October is going to be better than it has
- 18:31Speaker 1: been probably in the last couple of years, just because
- 18:33Speaker 1: the weather's um. It looks like for the rest of
- 18:36Speaker 1: this week it's at least in the mid forties for
- 18:39Speaker 1: US as a high and then up to the fifties,
- 18:42Speaker 1: but anything under seems like it's got the deer. Deer
- 18:46Speaker 1: moving um and you know, test asterones continuing to rise,
- 18:51Speaker 1: so they should get better and better a lot more
- 18:54Speaker 1: daylight cruising, I think. Alright, Agi, well, I look forward
- 18:58Speaker 1: to talking to you after your rutcation there. Good luck
- 19:01Speaker 1: with that. All right, sounds good. Thanks a lot, And
- 19:05Speaker 1: now joining us on the phone is Eric Long with
- 19:08Speaker 1: Drumming Wildlife Management. Now, Eric in Ohio, what would you say?
- 19:13Speaker 1: The bucket activity has been on scale of one to ten,
- 19:18Speaker 1: probably about a four or five right now. It's pretty low.
- 19:21Speaker 1: And so what are you basing that off of some
- 19:23Speaker 1: encounters or trail cam activity or what are you seeing? Well,
- 19:27Speaker 1: the trail cam activity, let's address that first. Um, it's
- 19:31Speaker 1: been kind of just just kind of a minimal type thing.
- 19:35Speaker 1: I'm not seeing any daylight necessarily photos that wouldn't and
- 19:39Speaker 1: indicate you know, running activity. Um. And also you're talking
- 19:43Speaker 1: to my clients, um that I managed for pieces of property.
- 19:47Speaker 1: I talked to them just the other day, try to
- 19:49Speaker 1: get a feel for, you know, what's going on at
- 19:51Speaker 1: their properties and they're basically seeing the same thing. Um.
- 19:56Speaker 1: And also too, is any take this for what it's worth.
- 19:59Speaker 1: I got about a two our drive each day and
- 20:04Speaker 1: you know, through rural rural country, and I'm not really
- 20:07Speaker 1: seeing any you know, chasing or anything like that, and
- 20:10Speaker 1: you know, talking to UM farmers and stuff like that,
- 20:13Speaker 1: you know they're not really seeing the activity UM as well.
- 20:17Speaker 1: So UM So basically, like I said, it was, it's
- 20:21Speaker 1: it's kinda kind of stagnant right now. But UM, I
- 20:27Speaker 1: say that with this being said, I hunted last night
- 20:32Speaker 1: and UM, I had, you know, some yearling box come
- 20:36Speaker 1: into the food source the food plot that I was hunting,
- 20:39Speaker 1: and they weren't bothering the dose, but they you know,
- 20:41Speaker 1: they were checking them lip curling. And then my son
- 20:44Speaker 1: who was hunting, actually I was just with them. We
- 20:47Speaker 1: had a four year old come in. He wouldn't commit
- 20:49Speaker 1: to the food plot, but he was just walking around,
- 20:52Speaker 1: just lip curling, but keeping his distance away from everybody.
- 20:56Speaker 1: So I'd say it's almost on the verge of breaking out.
- 21:00Speaker 1: So we're starting to get some activity, but it's still
- 21:02Speaker 1: kind of just low key right now. And so what
- 21:05Speaker 1: do you think we need, um for it to really
- 21:08Speaker 1: break out? Do you think we need a good cold
- 21:10Speaker 1: front or um, something to change with harvest or just
- 21:13Speaker 1: day lengthwise. We just need to have some patience. Yeah,
- 21:16Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, everybody has their opinion on it. Um.
- 21:19Speaker 1: My thing is just time, um not to go draw
- 21:23Speaker 1: in a drawing out thing here, but every three to
- 21:27Speaker 1: four years depending on my time, but it's roughly every
- 21:29Speaker 1: three years, UM, I do a fetus study. And what
- 21:32Speaker 1: that is is I try to kill as many dose
- 21:34Speaker 1: as I can in January because in Ohio we have
- 21:37Speaker 1: a pretty liberal hunting season where we can hunt all
- 21:40Speaker 1: the way up into into February. So that's positive. Um,
- 21:45Speaker 1: so where we save a bunch of tags. Has some
- 21:47Speaker 1: people come into one of our main farms, and we
- 21:50Speaker 1: try to kill as many dose as we can legally
- 21:52Speaker 1: and collect those fetuses. Now why do we do that
- 21:55Speaker 1: because we can measure those fetuses and determine and doing
- 22:00Speaker 1: a certain measurement, doing some adding and subtracking, we can
- 22:03Speaker 1: then decide see actually when those does are being bred.
- 22:07Speaker 1: And lately the last one we did, um, it was
- 22:11Speaker 1: from November nine through to twelve. So no matter how
- 22:14Speaker 1: much activity is prior or, you know, and all that
- 22:18Speaker 1: stuff is still somewhat consistent if you have a good
- 22:21Speaker 1: quality dear hurt, you know, it's not all over the map.
- 22:25Speaker 1: So you know, the rutting activity is one thing, but
- 22:29Speaker 1: actually the rut itself you know, it's stays consistent from
- 22:32Speaker 1: the time period that everybody knows, you know, in the Midwest,
- 22:36Speaker 1: at least in Ohio. Right, So I was gonna ask you,
- 22:39Speaker 1: how relevant do you think, um, that study that you're
- 22:42Speaker 1: doing is for you know, neighboring states or or do
- 22:45Speaker 1: you think that's a very local thing. Oh, it's very
- 22:48Speaker 1: local obviously. It depends on if you're managing your piece
- 22:51Speaker 1: of property. Um, you know, the deer densities and stuff
- 22:55Speaker 1: like that. So it is a very local type thing,
- 22:57Speaker 1: it is, sure. And so going forward for the next
- 23:00Speaker 1: ten days or so, what do you think the bucket
- 23:02Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one
- 23:04Speaker 1: to ten? Oh, without a doubt. I mean I would say,
- 23:09Speaker 1: by um, the middle of next week and next week
- 23:14Speaker 1: if I have my crystal ball, you know here at
- 23:17Speaker 1: the end of the month in November, I would say,
- 23:20Speaker 1: you know, three stand time is going to be very crucial.
- 23:22Speaker 1: You know that pre rud activity is you know, to me,
- 23:26Speaker 1: I love hunting pre right. I don't like hunting the
- 23:29Speaker 1: right itself, you know, Um, you know our places are
- 23:33Speaker 1: kind of just dead, you know, the pre rud activity,
- 23:36Speaker 1: I just absolutely love it. And still on a scale
- 23:38Speaker 1: of one to ten. What what do you think it's
- 23:39Speaker 1: gonna be? Uh scale of one to ten? You know
- 23:43Speaker 1: here by the end of the month, I would have
- 23:45Speaker 1: to say, you know, you know, be up towards seven seven,
- 23:48Speaker 1: uh eight? Eight? Is you know by the end of
- 23:51Speaker 1: the months here, I think it'll happen just that quick. Yeah, well,
- 23:55Speaker 1: we're excited as each calendar day draws closer in November.
- 23:59Speaker 1: So thanks for your talking, thanks for your time, and
- 24:02Speaker 1: have a problem. I hope the rest of your fall
- 24:04Speaker 1: goes great. Yeah, and likewise to you, sir. Alright, and
- 24:09Speaker 1: joining me on the phone. Next is John Armand of
- 24:12Speaker 1: Ultimate Outdoor Adventure TV. John in North Dakota. What would
- 24:17Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been these last ten
- 24:20Speaker 1: days on a scale of one to ten, um, I
- 24:24Speaker 1: would have to say from when we've been on the
- 24:25Speaker 1: field is probably around US three. It's not been, um,
- 24:29Speaker 1: super fast and furious. And so what are you basing
- 24:32Speaker 1: that off of some trail came activity or scouting or
- 24:35Speaker 1: actually hunting or what are you seeing? Well, we've a
- 24:38Speaker 1: little both. I went out and checked the cameras the
- 24:41Speaker 1: other day and the activity saw a lot of those
- 24:43Speaker 1: on the food plots. Um, you know, the bucks are
- 24:46Speaker 1: starting the cruise. I'm seeing different bucks showing up in
- 24:49Speaker 1: different areas, but the ones that I had on camera earlier,
- 24:53Speaker 1: for the bigger ones, I'm not seeing right now. And
- 24:56Speaker 1: I've talked to a couple of my friends. Some outfitters
- 24:59Speaker 1: at UM run quite a bit of land and you know,
- 25:02Speaker 1: they've seen some activity. They've actually had a couple of
- 25:06Speaker 1: really nice bucks, probably one sixty and one fifty that
- 25:09Speaker 1: were locked together, but the guy actually shot. So you know,
- 25:13Speaker 1: things are starting to pick up and they're starting to
- 25:15Speaker 1: to hammer on each other and they're starting to cruise around.
- 25:18Speaker 1: But UM, from US hunting last week, we saw very
- 25:22Speaker 1: little activity and so the bucks that they are you
- 25:25Speaker 1: are getting on camera, these newer deer UM is a
- 25:28Speaker 1: mostly nocturnal movement. No, the ones that UM we've seen
- 25:32Speaker 1: on camera on the food source have actually been UM early,
- 25:36Speaker 1: you know, around seven o'clock in the evening. UM seen
- 25:39Speaker 1: a lot of activity in the morning. UM, but they're there,
- 25:43Speaker 1: you know, the bucks I haven't seen the been in
- 25:44Speaker 1: a one thirty class range nice dear UM, but just
- 25:48Speaker 1: haven't seen the big boys UM yet. But they could
- 25:51Speaker 1: be in different areas too, and so like where do
- 25:54Speaker 1: you think those bucks went that you've been you know,
- 25:57Speaker 1: patterning all of October. Do you think they're on the
- 25:59Speaker 1: neighbor is now or do you think they're still They're
- 26:01Speaker 1: just not really moving yet. I think there's they're still there.
- 26:05Speaker 1: You know, we um run two thousand acres mountain in
- 26:09Speaker 1: south central North Dakota, and we have a lot of
- 26:11Speaker 1: drawers and coolies, and what I've seen is that our
- 26:14Speaker 1: story being filled and things. When in September August September
- 26:18Speaker 1: when there's a lot of green um for them, they
- 26:21Speaker 1: were hammering them early and right now they're kind of
- 26:24Speaker 1: switching gears and they're going over to some of the corn.
- 26:28Speaker 1: But I think a lot of these bucks are just
- 26:30Speaker 1: starting to spread out. You know, they're there in their
- 26:32Speaker 1: bachelor groups and now they're kind of moving around and
- 26:35Speaker 1: they're gonna be there. They're just gonna be different parts
- 26:37Speaker 1: of our place. And that's what usually happens, is that
- 26:40Speaker 1: they just kind of spread out and go to the
- 26:43Speaker 1: different areas and start checking those and things like that. Right,
- 26:46Speaker 1: so we we shouldn't hit the panic button yet then
- 26:48Speaker 1: for you, um, so you would say this is typical, then, uh,
- 26:52Speaker 1: this sort of behavior that you're seeing you know it
- 26:55Speaker 1: is you know, it's every year we struggle. You know
- 26:58Speaker 1: they say the October law and UM, you know, this
- 27:01Speaker 1: weekend we're hoping it's going to pick up. You know,
- 27:03Speaker 1: it's um, you know, Halloween weekend and UM thinking that
- 27:07Speaker 1: cracking the horns together and doing a little grunt call.
- 27:09Speaker 1: And I think these bucks are starting to get into
- 27:11Speaker 1: it and are usually seems like it. And you know,
- 27:15Speaker 1: around the Halloween weekend the pre rep and then start
- 27:19Speaker 1: we open up our rifle season UM the following week,
- 27:22Speaker 1: and we started to see some really nice activity then
- 27:25Speaker 1: and it continues through the middle of November to the
- 27:28Speaker 1: end of November. And so what have you been seeing
- 27:31Speaker 1: for deer sign wise? Do you think scrapes are really
- 27:33Speaker 1: hot right now? Are we starting to move off of
- 27:35Speaker 1: that a little bit? Well, you know, we we're not
- 27:39Speaker 1: big in the scrape hunting, UM, but you know the
- 27:41Speaker 1: areas that I do hunt, there's huge scrape plans that
- 27:44Speaker 1: go through. UM. I have personally never killed a deer
- 27:47Speaker 1: on a scrape. UM. Just nice to see. I think
- 27:50Speaker 1: that the ones that we're seeing a lot of them
- 27:52Speaker 1: are the ones that they keep open year round because
- 27:55Speaker 1: it's a kind of their signpost type deal. But you know,
- 28:00Speaker 1: the rubs are everywhere and we're starting to see, um,
- 28:05Speaker 1: you know, more scrapes in different areas, um where these
- 28:08Speaker 1: bucks are cruising. And so going forward, what what do
- 28:12Speaker 1: you think the buck activity is going to be on
- 28:13Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in this next week
- 28:16Speaker 1: or so? You know, I would like to say it's
- 28:19Speaker 1: going to get up to an eight or nine, but
- 28:22Speaker 1: I just know how that what goes. You know, it's
- 28:24Speaker 1: funny that you know, we're a weekend where so we
- 28:27Speaker 1: get a hunt the weekends basically, and you know some days,
- 28:31Speaker 1: you know the rut is on fire. You go out
- 28:33Speaker 1: one day and you'll see bucks chasing all over dog
- 28:37Speaker 1: and does and the next day you see nothing. And
- 28:40Speaker 1: it's always been baffling to me. And I don't know
- 28:42Speaker 1: if they're in lockdown. Um, it's just one of those deals.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Time creates opportunity and if a guy I can get
- 28:48Speaker 1: out there as much as possible, I think you're going
- 28:50Speaker 1: to find some kind of rucket what activity going on,
- 28:53Speaker 1: It just depends on what day it is. Yeah, right on, Well,
- 28:56Speaker 1: I hope that the rut lines up with your weekends
- 28:59Speaker 1: of a we'll here and uh, we'll connect again soon
- 29:02Speaker 1: and hear how you're doing all right, buddy, Well, I
- 29:05Speaker 1: appreciate it. And finally joining us on the phone is
- 29:08Speaker 1: Tim Bieble of the four pointer dot com, which is
- 29:11Speaker 1: dedicated to New England whitetail hunting. Now t him, I
- 29:14Speaker 1: know you've been hunting Vermont in New Hampshire lately. What
- 29:17Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been there? On
- 29:19Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, I would have to
- 29:24Speaker 1: give it a probably around a five to a six.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Just this past weekend, I think the weather really took
- 29:30Speaker 1: a turn for the better in terms of deer hunting.
- 29:32Speaker 1: It's been real, real warm this fall, and there's been
- 29:35Speaker 1: a lot of food, a lot of food in the
- 29:38Speaker 1: woods this year. So the dear activity has been the
- 29:40Speaker 1: movement at least has been next to nothing from what
- 29:43Speaker 1: I've experienced, and just this past weekend that was out
- 29:46Speaker 1: scouting and heard from others. But scrapes are starting to
- 29:49Speaker 1: pop up and and rub so it's it's getting to
- 29:52Speaker 1: that point where it's pretty exciting out there. So looking
- 29:56Speaker 1: forward to getting out there tonight. Actually gonna plan it
- 29:59Speaker 1: on no first great tonight in an area where I've
- 30:01Speaker 1: had some success, calling in the past, so hopefully that'll
- 30:04Speaker 1: work out again tonight. But I'll give it a five
- 30:06Speaker 1: or six. And so how aggressive are you typically this
- 30:08Speaker 1: time of year? UM? You know, are you hunting some
- 30:10Speaker 1: of your better stands yet or are you showing some
- 30:12Speaker 1: patience with those? UM. My strategy, to be honest is
- 30:18Speaker 1: is I hunt when I can so UM. You know,
- 30:21Speaker 1: I can't get out every day, and the days that
- 30:23Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to hunt, I take advantage of it.
- 30:26Speaker 1: UM this type of this time of year, I would
- 30:28Speaker 1: say I probably I'm a little bit more aggressive at
- 30:30Speaker 1: least with calling. UM. I still try to slip in
- 30:33Speaker 1: there where I think the buck activity is going to
- 30:35Speaker 1: be UM. But calling I definitely ramped that up. Most
- 30:39Speaker 1: of the calling around here was blind calling. You can't
- 30:41Speaker 1: see one hundred yards in the woods, so UM, I
- 30:44Speaker 1: definitely utilize those quite a bit, more grunts and more UM.
- 30:49Speaker 1: These can call a lot little dough bleats this type
- 30:52Speaker 1: of year, and have had success with yer responding to those.
- 30:55Speaker 1: So hoping that I can catch that buck just out cruising,
- 31:00Speaker 1: you know, checking his scrapes that he's recently made, and
- 31:03Speaker 1: maybe pick up on one of my calls and and
- 31:06Speaker 1: come on over for a peaksie, what's over there? So?
- 31:09Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's my strategy, to just try to
- 31:11Speaker 1: get in there close to their scrapes and then try
- 31:13Speaker 1: to call to them. And so, are you more of
- 31:16Speaker 1: a morning sit right now? Or you do a lot
- 31:19Speaker 1: more evenings this time of year, more evenings at this point, Um,
- 31:25Speaker 1: getting into that time of year when I can I
- 31:26Speaker 1: can get out in more mornings. But up to this point, um,
- 31:29Speaker 1: it's been all evening sits for me. And I mean
- 31:32Speaker 1: all honestly, check my bag out you'll see I haven't
- 31:35Speaker 1: had much success as it is so far this year.
- 31:37Speaker 1: But deer movement has been pretty slow for me this year.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Just like I said a little bit ago, it has
- 31:43Speaker 1: done really warm, above average, and just a ton of
- 31:47Speaker 1: feed in the woods in this area, just up and
- 31:49Speaker 1: down the Connecticut River valley in Vermonton, Hampshire, just acorns everywhere,
- 31:54Speaker 1: beech nuts everywhere, and coupled with warm weather just doesn't
- 31:58Speaker 1: give the deer much reason to move until that lack
- 32:01Speaker 1: of deer movement that you're seeing, would you say that
- 32:03Speaker 1: is all white tail across the board right now or
- 32:05Speaker 1: just mostly the bucks that you're noticing? A lack of
- 32:08Speaker 1: movement with I would say that's that's pretty much all
- 32:12Speaker 1: white tail moving across the board in my experience, just
- 32:15Speaker 1: just been next to nothing, really sure. And and so
- 32:19Speaker 1: how can you use that abundance of food information right
- 32:23Speaker 1: now this time of year? Does that help a hunter
- 32:25Speaker 1: or not? Really? Well, it's frustrating for sure. But I
- 32:28Speaker 1: think one of the lessons I'm learning or trying to
- 32:33Speaker 1: trying to act on that I've learned in the past
- 32:35Speaker 1: is to give up a few nights of hunting if
- 32:37Speaker 1: it's just not not productive time in the woods and
- 32:40Speaker 1: and spending those those times when I would otherwise be
- 32:43Speaker 1: sitting in a stand to scout and see where I
- 32:45Speaker 1: can find that fresh feeding activity. Um. I mean, you know,
- 32:49Speaker 1: if you can find those oaks where the deer happened
- 32:51Speaker 1: to be, uh, sit there for a couple of nights
- 32:55Speaker 1: in a row, and see what happens. If it's dead there,
- 32:57Speaker 1: you know, move on to the next spot. But that's
- 32:59Speaker 1: it's pretty spotty right now. And that's the strategy I'm
- 33:02Speaker 1: trying to employ, um and it it does work, but
- 33:06Speaker 1: you gotta find where they're at as they're just not
- 33:07Speaker 1: moving much sharing going forward for these next ten days
- 33:11Speaker 1: or so, what would you say the buck activity is
- 33:13Speaker 1: going to be then on a scale of one to ten, Well,
- 33:17Speaker 1: it's only going to get better. And the you know,
- 33:20Speaker 1: the the weather forecast looks promising. We've got some chilly
- 33:23Speaker 1: weather sticking with us now down into the twenties at night,
- 33:27Speaker 1: and even today it's barely reached forty degrees. And so
- 33:31Speaker 1: that coupled with this type of this time of year, uh,
- 33:34Speaker 1: you know, the bucks really just start cruising. It's encouraging
- 33:38Speaker 1: to see that scrape activity out there in fresh roums.
- 33:42Speaker 1: And so it's only a matter of time, which is
- 33:45Speaker 1: I think one of the most important ingredients to a
- 33:47Speaker 1: hunt is just time. You just gotta just gotta put
- 33:49Speaker 1: in the time. And eventually, you know, if you play
- 33:52Speaker 1: your cards right and put the time in, something's gonna happen.
- 33:56Speaker 1: And so it just all comes down to take an
- 33:58Speaker 1: advantage of those opportunities that are absolutely well. I'll be
- 34:01Speaker 1: following along at the four pointer dot com and hope
- 34:04Speaker 1: to see you with some antler in your hands. Yeah
- 34:07Speaker 1: me too, All right, thanks A lot spends to appreciate it.
- 34:10Speaker 1: And that concludes this episode of rout Radio. Make sure
- 34:13Speaker 1: to follow wired Hunt on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and
- 34:17Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Spencer new Hearth.
- 34:21Speaker 1: I look forward to the next time I talk to
- 34:22Speaker 1: you guys, because that will mean it's finally November. Thanks
- 34:26Speaker 1: for listening.