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Episode 359 "Mental Health Experts" · The Baller Alert Show

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Speaker 1: They get a little called me broadcast live from Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: Georgia walks to the ball Aer show.
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Speaker 2: I go by the name for I go by the name.
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Speaker 1: You know, BT, introduce yourself, fellas.
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Speaker 3: My name is Terrell Tepper. I'm a mental health therapist
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Speaker 3: here in Atlanta. And my name is Tawan Tepper. I'm
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Speaker 3: a mental health therapist here in Atlanta as well.
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Speaker 1: Wether the Baller.
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Speaker 4: All right, all right, all right, now, you guys said
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Speaker 4: something very important that I feel like people that look
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Speaker 4: like us be l like I ain't crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are.
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Speaker 4: A mental health therapist. Well, first of all, you guys
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Speaker 4: are twins. Yeah, Because I talked to one person he.
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Speaker 1: Was like, nah, you're supposed to me.
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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, okay, yeah, we met up before.
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Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it gives us a
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Speaker 3: little bit of an advantage just because when you see twins,
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Speaker 3: you don't forget twins, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: That's true. You might not.
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Speaker 3: Love us, you might hate us, but you ain't gonna
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Speaker 3: forget about us. I think we get to double down
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Speaker 3: on ship, you know what I'm saying. So like, if
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Speaker 3: I say certain things or feel a certain way, it's
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Speaker 3: one thing if I feel that way, but I gotta
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Speaker 3: already got like a built in authorage.
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Speaker 5: So it's cool.
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Speaker 6: I always wanted a twin because I always wanted to
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Speaker 6: be like men. My men and my twin brother, we
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Speaker 6: could try to like date the same people.
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Speaker 4: I got my best friends, my best friends or my
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Speaker 4: cousins their twin cousins.
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Speaker 1: And my wife is a twin.
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Speaker 4: Actually, oh wow, I don't know why I'm always surrounded
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Speaker 4: by twins. It's funny, but twins always not necessarily don't
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Speaker 4: do that, do you right? Yeah, never tried it either,
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Speaker 4: Like I never tried that, I got different tastes.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I.
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Speaker 5: Never tried it.
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Speaker 3: I think we got the same tastes of like looks,
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Speaker 3: but a personality probably would be different.
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Speaker 6: But I never tried to play jokes on people, Like
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Speaker 6: when you talking to somebody and then you're like, I'm
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Speaker 6: gonna send brother go like to see if this person
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Speaker 6: know the difference.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that happens that no time.
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Speaker 5: That's normal.
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Speaker 3: I've seen that, So I think what happened initially the
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Speaker 3: first time we ever switched up my in fourth grade,
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Speaker 3: my teacher and his teacher was best friends. They was
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Speaker 3: like homies for Fool's Day, and it was like, get
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Speaker 3: your brother out of class, go to the bathroom and
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Speaker 3: switch clothes, and then you go to his class and
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Speaker 3: he come over here to my class.
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Speaker 5: That shit happened, and.
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Speaker 3: We was there all day, literally, and nobody knew, and
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Speaker 3: that's crazy.
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Speaker 5: Today she pulled.
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Speaker 3: Her homie to the side and was like, you know,
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Speaker 3: you had the wrong kid in your class the whole day,
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Speaker 3: and it was It was like a funny thing. But
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Speaker 3: I think typically people want us to do twin shit
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Speaker 3: more than we want to do twin shit.
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Speaker 1: Like dress alike.
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Speaker 6: Did y'all parents make y'all do that? Like when y'all
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Speaker 6: kids like dress alike and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: It's so crazy. We dressed alike up until high school.
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Speaker 3: So then when we start like in our own personalities
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Speaker 3: and stuff. We got to school and somebody was like,
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Speaker 3: that's weird that y'all still dress like.
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Speaker 5: We didn't. We didn't know it was weird.
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Speaker 3: We thought it was regular, right, So at that point
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Speaker 3: we went home changed and never dressed it like again,
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Speaker 3: like it was. It was a little bit when we
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Speaker 3: got to high school, it got a little bit weird
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Speaker 3: that you didn't have your own personality, you know.
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Speaker 6: So that was that was did y'all y'all parents, and
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Speaker 6: it was like, hey, y'all got so y'all been y'all
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Speaker 6: been having us dressed like that, and we in school
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Speaker 6: looking weird pretty much.
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Speaker 3: It's almost like, you know, from the outside looking in,
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Speaker 3: it seems like fun and it is. You know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, It's ups and downs. But like when I
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Speaker 3: can tell you right now, if I go to the
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Speaker 3: gym right now, Oh, if I go to the gym
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Speaker 3: right now, hoop, They're gonna be like, damn, bro, where's
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Speaker 3: your brother? And it's like, damn, it's just me today.
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Speaker 3: It's got to be good enough for you, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If that's not good enough for you,
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Speaker 3: that I don't know what to tell you. He a
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Speaker 3: grown man. I don't even know where he at.
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Speaker 4: Growing up with twins in my life and now being
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Speaker 4: married to identical twins, I see twins stuff all the time.
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Speaker 4: Do you guys like sometimes just meet somewhere randomly and.
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Speaker 1: Have on the same ship always. Yeah, I have this
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Speaker 1: all the time.
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Speaker 4: I've seen that with my cousins and then with my
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Speaker 4: wife and y'all have they would literally show up somewhere
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Speaker 4: and have on damn near the same outfit, same color way.
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Speaker 5: So it's like we think so similar.
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Speaker 3: So it's like, if I feel like this is appropriate
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Speaker 3: to wear to this occasion, he gonna be thinking something
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Speaker 3: very similar. Be Damn, I need a polo, I need
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Speaker 3: some gins, I need some air force one.
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Speaker 5: So we show up. It might not be the exact same, but.
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Speaker 4: It's last thing, last thing, because we got I don't
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Speaker 4: want to get off topic, because twins are cool to me.
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Speaker 4: You know twins triplets? Do you guys both have kids
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Speaker 4: or no? So do you know that their kids are
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Speaker 4: siblings because they have the same DNA. So my because
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Speaker 4: my wife's kids and my and her twin sisters kids
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Speaker 4: their siblings because they have the same mom DNA, so
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Speaker 4: they have they share their DNA. Their DNA is exactly
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Speaker 4: the same. That's why they look the same.
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Speaker 1: So their kids are like cousin siblings.
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Speaker 5: That's crazy.
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Speaker 3: I never heard it that way, but I do know.
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Speaker 3: We have the exact same fingerprint too. No wait, what
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Speaker 3: our fingerprint is exact same?
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Speaker 6: Sometimes he committed crime and his fingerprint They coming to
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Speaker 6: get you too.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna bring both of them in the figure to
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Speaker 1: figure out who did it.
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Speaker 4: Wow, But some twins aren't though, because my my cousin
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Speaker 4: twins are fraternal.
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Speaker 1: Yeah I never asked my wife was her and her
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Speaker 1: twin sisters praternal twins? They don't look the same, so twins,
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Speaker 1: they just look different.
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Speaker 3: So facts, But fraternal twins are two eggs that got separated, separated.
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Speaker 5: Fertilized by the same sperm.
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Speaker 3: But identical twins is one egg and one sperm was
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Speaker 3: fertilized and then they split.
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Speaker 5: Ye does it make sense?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
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Speaker 6: That's crazy whole thing, bro, But so hard fraternal twins
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Speaker 6: were they still born.
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Speaker 1: Like together the same day?
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Speaker 2: They just that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Like, imagine me and you be twins.
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Speaker 4: We just don't look the same, we just but we
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Speaker 4: were born the same day, We shared the same DNA,
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Speaker 4: everything else is the same.
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Speaker 1: We just don't look the same. Then, boy, they got
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Speaker 1: boy and girl twin too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know, I do know that.
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Speaker 5: I know some twins look like the daddy and like
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Speaker 5: the mom.
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Speaker 3: That's usually look like like like brown skin.
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Speaker 1: I think the boy girl twin dynamic is weird too, it.
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Speaker 4: Could I'd be like, how does this happen? How's one
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Speaker 4: of the girl, one's a boy, and y'all twins? I
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Speaker 4: always thought that was weird. But anyway, all right, so can.
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Speaker 2: I ask one last one last twin question.
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Speaker 6: Isn't today and age like you can like if you
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Speaker 6: if you were having a kid and you wanted twins,
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Speaker 6: you could, like, yes.
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Speaker 3: Scientifically, yeah, yeah, you can do this.
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Speaker 4: It's expensive though, bro, stuff like if you want, like,
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Speaker 4: it's expensive to have wins period.
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Speaker 1: Like some people can't have kids, so you have to
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Speaker 1: get the in vitro.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's expensive, but I think that's like ten thousand
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Speaker 4: to start, just to start d Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that, but I do.
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Speaker 3: I do think that, like nowadays, everything is manipulatable, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, you want something, you can
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Speaker 3: pretty much figure out.
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Speaker 5: Ever you can pay for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, my bad.
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Speaker 4: I just had to ask because this is good, This
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Speaker 4: is good combo and we don't do interviews. We do
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Speaker 4: conversations when we when we do our content and stuff
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Speaker 4: like that.
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Speaker 1: So is it now that you guys are twins?
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Speaker 4: I kind of was going into this path of is
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Speaker 4: that the same thing that you wanted to do? The
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Speaker 4: mental health together.
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Speaker 5: No, So I started in mental health.
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Speaker 3: I got out establish my major in college psychology, and
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Speaker 3: he was actually physical therapy at Tennessee State.
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Speaker 5: University of Tennessee State. Yes, sir, both of y'all. Okay,
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Speaker 5: that's a big deal, good deal.
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Speaker 3: That's actually a funny story too. So I realized later
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Speaker 3: why as a football player they encourage you not to
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Speaker 3: declare a major up front, because once you declare a major,
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Speaker 3: you have to like make good grades to stay eligible
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Speaker 3: and you have to have a certain amount of credits
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Speaker 3: in that major. Yeah, so they was like, everybody that's
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Speaker 3: a freshman, don't declare a major.
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Speaker 5: Just take core classes. You gotta do that.
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Speaker 1: You gotta ta your core classes regardless.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta get that out the way.
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Speaker 1: They need y'all on the field.
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Speaker 3: You're smarter, not bro like if you got economics.
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Speaker 5: I don't think y'all. Everybody ain't smart out here.
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Speaker 3: So let's just stay on the field and then we'll
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Speaker 3: figure the rest out later type situation. So I was like,
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Speaker 3: all right, in my mind, I was thinking, he gonna
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Speaker 3: do mental health, I'm gonna do physical health.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna have a holistic health facility.
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Speaker 3: At some point where you could and get you know,
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Speaker 3: get right from the mental space, get right from the
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Speaker 3: physical space. You got some injuries you need to recover from,
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Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is. And then my major, physical
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Speaker 3: health got lost its accreditation like like halfway through my
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Speaker 3: freshman year, and they was like, just keep on taking
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Speaker 3: courses and then switch your major before you graduate. I'm
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Speaker 3: glad I didn't do that because that major never did
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Speaker 3: get accredited.
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Speaker 5: While I was at school.
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Speaker 3: Would have more classes, yeah, I would have been a
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Speaker 3: super super senior.
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Speaker 5: Transfer to another school, yeah, either one.
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Speaker 1: So you switched to mental health.
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Speaker 3: I switched to mental health, and I think it might
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Speaker 3: have been sophomore year where all of my credits got
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Speaker 3: transferred over.
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Speaker 5: Which it was like a blessing. I didn't think that
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Speaker 5: was gonna happen.
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Speaker 3: So I was like, damn, I'm gonna be behind because
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Speaker 3: I didn't choose a major when I should have.
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Speaker 5: But it worked out, so it was good.
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Speaker 1: All right. Now we got all that out of the way.
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Speaker 1: Liz get into the meat and potatoes.
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Speaker 5: Pause.
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Speaker 4: Why is it important for men? And I'll get into
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Speaker 4: the women, but why is it important for men to
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Speaker 4: explore their mental health and expand upon it?
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's important for men to explore their
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Speaker 3: mental health just because we don't do that, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like we don't even why why because
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like we have to
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Speaker 3: be so much for so many people, you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like we as men, normally were the head
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Speaker 3: of the household. Normally we are leaders in the workspace,
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Speaker 3: So if we don't take care of our mental space,
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Speaker 3: then it trickles down to so many other people. Also
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Speaker 3: feel like when you're the leader, it's a lot of
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Speaker 3: unspoken pressure for you to always have it together or
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Speaker 3: seem like you always have it together, and when you
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Speaker 3: are seeking help outside of yourself, it feels sometimes like
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Speaker 3: you don't have it together. Like I can't control this
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Speaker 3: without you know, somebody helping me control this. So I
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Speaker 3: don't want everybody else to see me as weak or
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Speaker 3: see me as flawed, or see me as you know,
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Speaker 3: whatever it is that don't.
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Speaker 5: Really feel like a good leader, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: So I think most of the time, as men, especially
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Speaker 3: black men, we are kind of results driven, Like people
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Speaker 3: don't really care why you didn't get it done, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, It's just either you got that
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Speaker 3: shit done or you didn't get that shit done.
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: If you didn't get it done, we gonna find somebody
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Speaker 3: else who's gonna.
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Speaker 5: Get it done. To your point, I feel like that
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Speaker 5: we just live in a.
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Speaker 3: No excuse society as men, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Like we can't really say I made am mistake and
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Speaker 3: it's cool, you know what I mean. It's always consequences
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Speaker 3: attached to those mistakes. So the better headspace we in,
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Speaker 3: the more intentional we are about our mental the better
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Speaker 3: we can lead.
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Speaker 4: I know BT has a question last one. I see
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Speaker 4: other ethnicities put mental health very important in their framework
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Speaker 4: of who they are. How Come there's a lack of
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Speaker 4: that and at the African American community, I gotta from
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Speaker 4: what I see right, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 5: I can tell you no, No, you can completely right.
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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I go to it like
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Speaker 3: a snooty gym a little bit, and the white guys
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Speaker 3: will sit up and brag about what their therapists recommended
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Speaker 3: that they do. You know what I'm saying. It's like
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Speaker 3: a status thing for them. But I think in our community,
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Speaker 3: for one, thing is generational curses. I think that most
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Speaker 3: of the stuff that the other cultures do, like cater
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Speaker 3: to their men, we don't do it.
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like.
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Speaker 3: Pay attention to your mental health, we don't do it.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of the things that we don't
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Speaker 3: do was kind of giving to us as a weakness, right,
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Speaker 3: or kind of like painted in a situation where because
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Speaker 3: I don't do these things, it makes me look stronger,
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Speaker 3: but in reality it's actually a.
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Speaker 5: Sign of weakness to me.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it steps to it. I feel like
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Speaker 3: we're getting there, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: I feel like this is the most I've seen mental
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Speaker 4: health being spoken about ever.
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Speaker 3: It's cool now, like it's one of those things that's
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Speaker 3: a hot button topic, but I don't feel like we're
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Speaker 3: using it right yet. So, like, if you think back
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Speaker 3: to the early two thousands, you in a white neighborhood,
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Speaker 3: you see white folks jogging. You like, damn, why are
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Speaker 3: these folks sold into health?
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Speaker 5: You feel me.
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Speaker 3: But now you go to a black neighborhood, you see
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Speaker 3: black folks jogging, Like we behind, Like we catching up,
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Speaker 3: We get in there, but we ain't there yet.
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Speaker 5: So like we using these mental health terms like, oh,
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Speaker 5: he bipolar, he's narcissistic and narcissistic.
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Speaker 3: You don't know what that means. It's a whole criteria
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Speaker 3: that you have to meet before somebody's bipolar and narcissistic.
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Speaker 3: But we know what those terms mean.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 3: You could asks a person the early two thousands what
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Speaker 3: narcissistic mean a black person.
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Speaker 5: They'll be like, what's that? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: So we're getting there, you know what I mean, but
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Speaker 3: we ain't there yet. That's where That's how I feel
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Speaker 3: about it.
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Speaker 6: It's kind of it's kind of like a it's slow motion,
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Speaker 6: but its motion right exactly. You know, and you you
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Speaker 6: touched on a really good subject because I noticed the
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Speaker 6: same thing right Like in my neighborhood. I would get
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Speaker 6: up every morning and I would see, like, you know,
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Speaker 6: my white neighbors, everybody's jogging, everybody's working out, and and
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Speaker 6: I'm over here like why we don't do this?
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? They like, you go to
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Speaker 2: the grocery store, they reading what's what's the ingredients in it?
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Speaker 6: And it's like, I feel like all that mental health
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Speaker 6: health is a part of health in general, you know
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Speaker 6: what I mean? Because I didn't it took me a
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Speaker 6: while to start going to a therapist to understand that.
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Speaker 6: I said, man, I need help on the things that
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Speaker 6: I was traumatized in my childhood, to understand that that
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Speaker 6: that's really who you become, right Like we really who
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Speaker 6: we are today based on the things that we went
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Speaker 6: through as a kid. Because I would do certain things
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Speaker 6: and I'm like, I'm an adult, why am I keep
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Speaker 6: doing this? And then you know, I go talk to
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Speaker 6: a specialist and they say, well, how is your childhood?
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Speaker 6: What are some things that like some behaviors that you've
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Speaker 6: seen in your childhood that make you act this certain
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Speaker 6: type of way. So that's why I feel like a
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Speaker 6: lot of times where like you know, it's suck to say,
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Speaker 6: but like a lot of black men don't know how
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Speaker 6: to resolve issues in a.
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Speaker 4: Healthier way that we deal with in our community with
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Speaker 4: the beef and the streets and all this stuff.
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Speaker 6: And I never understood that until I went to a therapist.
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Speaker 6: And you know, therapists like, well, how did you see
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Speaker 6: situations get handl when you was a kid?
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Speaker 2: Why see violence?
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Speaker 6: So what so you were going to see a specialist,
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Speaker 6: what about the millions of people that are going through
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Speaker 6: these things that didn't go see a specialist.
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Speaker 3: You said something super powerful, like it's trauma that we
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Speaker 3: live through as kids. We don't normalize that shit like
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Speaker 3: we think it's normal.
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Speaker 5: We think we're supposed to be going through this.
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Speaker 2: Like and it's cool to go through this.
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Speaker 5: It's street credit.
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Speaker 3: There's so many things that's traumatic that we don't really
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Speaker 3: give any credit to. Like any separation in parenting is trauma.
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Speaker 3: Poverty is trauma.
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Speaker 1: Uh, definitely trauma.
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Speaker 5: Any loss of a loved one, it's trauma, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Like we normalize that ship like oh, yeah, my daddy
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Speaker 3: died last last week.
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: I'm all right, Yeah, we need to talk that out.
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Speaker 5: Definitely, that's not something that just goes away, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean.
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Speaker 4: I want to share something I learned with my therapist,
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Speaker 4: and mine was and I want you guys to expound
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Speaker 4: on them if you can. Mine was setting boundaries. I
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Speaker 4: didn't understand the word boundaries and how it could help
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Speaker 4: my mental state of mind, cause you know, I've been
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Speaker 4: outside for a while. I got multiple baby mama's married
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Speaker 4: at five kids, I got a lot going on. Not
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Speaker 4: to say any of that is negative, but I didn't
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Speaker 4: understand how boundaries affected my mental health, and it helped
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Speaker 4: me with my parents, oh, my wife, my kids, mother's,
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Speaker 4: my kids, my coworkers, all my different jobs that I have.
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Speaker 4: Because I also feel like the entrepreneur is heavily recommended
17:47
Speaker 4: to speak to a therapist weekly. Man, if you're an entrepreneur,
17:50
Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong. Guys, everybody's listening. If you
17:54
Speaker 4: have to figure out how you make your money, or
17:57
Speaker 4: sometimes you can have a great month in a very
18:00
Speaker 4: bad month and you can try your best to be consistent,
18:03
Speaker 4: that's just not the entrepreneur way. I feel like the
18:06
Speaker 4: mental health thing is very challenging because you're dealing with
18:09
Speaker 4: so much emotions and you have to put boundaries in
18:13
Speaker 4: place if you do not. I was literally talking to
18:18
Speaker 4: one of my good friends today on the phone, Kristen.
18:20
Speaker 4: She works for me, she works, and she's completely oppotus.
18:23
Speaker 4: She's white, she works on the country radio station.
18:26
Speaker 1: She says, the.
18:27
Speaker 4: Things that you're working on will come out if you
18:31
Speaker 4: don't set the proper boundaries to that.
18:34
Speaker 5: You, guys, say what.
18:35
Speaker 3: I always I got a saying bad for being lengthy
18:39
Speaker 3: because you gave me so many thoughts. My saying is
18:43
Speaker 3: you teach people how to treat you with your first
18:48
Speaker 3: couple interactions, whether they know it or not, or whether
18:52
Speaker 3: it's conscious or not. They're gathering information on how to
18:56
Speaker 3: approach you. Right, So, just like you said, if you
18:59
Speaker 3: don't set no boundaries, then they feel like it's a
19:01
Speaker 3: free for all and then eventually you get mad and
19:04
Speaker 3: you like, why is he or he or she treated
19:07
Speaker 3: me like that? Well, you actually set up the boundaries
19:11
Speaker 3: around your relationship, like you have to set boundaries around
19:15
Speaker 3: certain things like for instance, I'm an entrepreneur as well,
19:18
Speaker 3: I don't have traditional nine to five hours like I
19:22
Speaker 3: book sessions if I'm free, you know what I'm saying,
19:25
Speaker 3: So it's flexible. But the people in my life will
19:28
Speaker 3: call me at noon, Hey can you come and do this.
19:31
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna answer the phone because I don't
19:34
Speaker 3: want you thinking tomorrow. You can call me at noon
19:37
Speaker 3: because tomorrow I might be busy at noon. Just hold
19:41
Speaker 3: off until five like you do with everybody else, you
19:43
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So, yeah, you got us set
19:46
Speaker 3: that boundary. And it's even harder to set boundaries with
19:49
Speaker 3: people Like you said, your parents care about Yeah, you
19:52
Speaker 3: care about them.
19:52
Speaker 1: My mom calls me three times in a row. No
19:54
Speaker 1: matter what, I gotta step outside and say, Ma, good,
19:57
Speaker 1: oh I need help with I'm over here, like.
20:01
Speaker 5: Did you put that on you back?
20:03
Speaker 1: Like this is this is? I call you later.
20:09
Speaker 3: It's funny that we talked about boundaries because he's more
20:13
Speaker 3: of the boundary setter, like, uh, naturally, I'm more of
20:17
Speaker 3: the give a person the benefit of the doubt thing.
20:20
Speaker 3: So I've lived through the negative the consequences of not
20:24
Speaker 3: setting boundaries. So a lot of times, like if you
20:27
Speaker 3: don't set boundaries, you end up living on somebody else's terms.
20:31
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You end up you end
20:33
Speaker 3: up catering to somebody that you didn't even mean to
20:36
Speaker 3: cater to, Like now I'm waiting on you, I'm on
20:39
Speaker 3: your schedule. I'm talking to you when you free, you
20:42
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, instead of vice versa. So it's
20:44
Speaker 3: definitely important and it's crazy we got something man, like
20:52
Speaker 3: this is a good this is a healthy conversation.
20:54
Speaker 1: And I know and I'm sorry for interrupting.
20:57
Speaker 4: I just know someone watching will be in the comments
21:00
Speaker 4: like oh I needed to hear.
21:01
Speaker 5: This, yeah, yeah, fact.
21:03
Speaker 4: Because once one person's comfortable speaking about their transgressions. Yeah,
21:08
Speaker 4: and it ignites something to someone else. So even if
21:11
Speaker 4: it's just one person, Yeah, that's good.
21:14
Speaker 3: That's funny you said that. I was actually talking to
21:17
Speaker 3: somebody about. Like mental health and physical health is very similar.
21:22
Speaker 3: And if you ever having a hard time understanding why
21:26
Speaker 3: something is important in mental health, it's easy if you
21:30
Speaker 3: translate it into physical health. Right, just like you said,
21:34
Speaker 3: in our community, it feels like I'm crazy or it's
21:37
Speaker 3: something wrong with me, or I don't have it none
21:38
Speaker 3: of control when I'm seeking help for mental health. But
21:42
Speaker 3: if you go to a physical health facility like a
21:45
Speaker 3: gym or a spa, it's people.
21:48
Speaker 5: In there that look like they work out every day.
21:50
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
21:51
Speaker 3: It's people in there that look like they this is
21:52
Speaker 3: their first work.
21:53
Speaker 5: Out in life. But nobody is in the wrong place,
21:57
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
21:57
Speaker 3: Like it's no wrong place to start doing something positive,
22:02
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So if your mental health
22:06
Speaker 3: is like you take your mental health everywhere you take
22:09
Speaker 3: your physical health, you know.
22:11
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it's one of the same. If you
22:12
Speaker 1: ask me if you if you.
22:14
Speaker 3: Fucked I had this one dude, he was like, bro,
22:16
Speaker 3: if I knew you was out here, I would have
22:19
Speaker 3: been had went and seek therapy because every time I
22:22
Speaker 3: see a therapist depicted on you know, on the movie,
22:27
Speaker 3: it's somebody I can't relate to, and it's.
22:29
Speaker 6: Always and it's always like it's like, you know, I
22:32
Speaker 6: feel like the like the film industry made like our
22:37
Speaker 6: culture think that, like we can't afford.
22:39
Speaker 2: That, right, and you got to be crazy or you
22:42
Speaker 2: gotta be crazy.
22:43
Speaker 6: When I told my mom I went to therapy, I
22:45
Speaker 6: was like, you know, I'm going to therapy and I'm
22:47
Speaker 6: learning so many tools and stuff to like implement in
22:50
Speaker 6: my life.
22:51
Speaker 2: And she said, boy, you ain't crazy.
22:56
Speaker 1: Probably she probably didn't mean it that way.
22:59
Speaker 4: She's just going off of how she perceived it, right.
23:03
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
23:04
Speaker 3: And too, I think that speaks to what he said
23:06
Speaker 3: generational curses. Like I took a class called abnormal Psychology
23:11
Speaker 3: to where we had to learn what was normal and
23:14
Speaker 3: what was not normal. So if you see something that's happening,
23:19
Speaker 3: if from your framework, if it's something that you've always seen,
23:22
Speaker 3: you're not gonna think of it as abnormal. So we
23:24
Speaker 3: had to take a whole class like what's normal, what's
23:27
Speaker 3: not normal?
23:28
Speaker 5: Right? So in this.
23:30
Speaker 3: Class, it was the study. This lady was cutting off
23:32
Speaker 3: the back of her bread. She was like, this is
23:34
Speaker 3: how we do it. This, how my grandmama did this,
23:36
Speaker 3: How my mama did it, this, how we do it.
23:38
Speaker 3: One day the granddaughter was like, why are we cutting
23:41
Speaker 3: off the back of the bread.
23:43
Speaker 5: She said, I don't know. Ask Mom. I asked mom.
23:45
Speaker 5: Mom didn't know. Ask grandma. I asked grandma. We finally
23:48
Speaker 5: asked grandma and Grandma.
23:49
Speaker 3: Said, baby, I just cut off the back of the
23:50
Speaker 3: bread because my pan was too short. It created a tradition, right,
23:59
Speaker 3: but the tradition came from one person's need. You feel
24:04
Speaker 3: me like that don't even apply to us. But we're
24:07
Speaker 3: still doing the traditional things, you know what I mean.
24:10
Speaker 6: And that's and that's that's that's a good take because
24:14
Speaker 6: I see what I see what you're saying.
24:15
Speaker 2: It's like we go through.
24:17
Speaker 6: Generations after generations, at the generations and and you know,
24:21
Speaker 6: I feel like the generation now is like, you know,
24:24
Speaker 6: people will listen to what a rappers say and think
24:28
Speaker 6: it's normal, but people won't listen to a therapist and
24:30
Speaker 6: think it's normal.
24:33
Speaker 5: A rapper is speaking his truth. You don't live that
24:37
Speaker 5: life for sure. You didn't just jump sometime.
24:42
Speaker 3: Sometimes that's the problem because it's entertainment, But go ahead
24:46
Speaker 3: take it seriously. Here's another thing I noticed about entertainers.
24:51
Speaker 3: Most of the time, they pour themselves into their work
24:55
Speaker 3: as their therapy. Right, So it's like, I'm really speaking
25:00
Speaker 3: out my trauma. I'm speaking out shit that I went through,
25:04
Speaker 3: so you don't have to go through it now, so
25:06
Speaker 3: you can go and mimic it, you know what I'm saying,
25:08
Speaker 3: Like I don't want you to go through this stuff
25:10
Speaker 3: because I had to go through it. And it's almost
25:13
Speaker 3: like if y'all do this, you know for a living,
25:16
Speaker 3: when you stressed out, you coming here, That don't make sense,
25:19
Speaker 3: Like it's completely the opposite of self care. Self care
25:24
Speaker 3: is supposed to separate you from whatever it.
25:26
Speaker 4: Is you said self care. A lot of people don't.
25:29
Speaker 4: I would say, prioritize self care when in reality that's
25:35
Speaker 4: the most important thing that you should prioritize your mental spaces,
25:38
Speaker 4: like I never forget. Man, I'm gonna say something coded
25:44
Speaker 4: because a lot of people.
25:45
Speaker 1: Watch the show.
25:48
Speaker 4: So then example I would give is, you know, someone
25:52
Speaker 4: comes home from work and they're just mad because they'll
25:55
Speaker 4: come home from work. Well, it affects the kids, it
25:58
Speaker 4: affects anyone who's in that house especially. We gotta do
26:02
Speaker 4: a better job just as a people understanding when you
26:06
Speaker 4: come home and you have a family, everything that happened,
26:11
Speaker 4: we got to decompress it in a way to when
26:13
Speaker 4: you walk in that house and you smile, or before
26:16
Speaker 4: you leave the house, when you wake up, you smile.
26:18
Speaker 1: I used to be that guy.
26:19
Speaker 4: I used to get up early in the morning and
26:21
Speaker 4: to be upset, like I hate waking up early, but
26:26
Speaker 4: I gotta take my kids to school. And once I
26:27
Speaker 4: learned that I can control how I feel, I said, oh,
26:33
Speaker 4: so I just started looking at the positives and everything.
26:35
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I get to take my kids
26:37
Speaker 4: to school every day. My parents didn't have time to
26:39
Speaker 4: do that, they had to go to work. So this
26:41
Speaker 4: is something that my kids to do do with me
26:43
Speaker 4: every day. And then I started implementing the gym. I
26:45
Speaker 4: started working out. I hate working out, but I got
26:48
Speaker 4: high cholesterol. So either I'm gonna take these pills every
26:51
Speaker 4: day or I'm a workout and get my cholesterol levels
26:54
Speaker 4: let down. So now I got a whole routine that
26:57
Speaker 4: I implemented with a therapist on Wednesday at five o'clock.
27:00
Speaker 1: So now I'm just structuring my life.
27:02
Speaker 4: But I'm keep in mind forty one, so I'm I
27:05
Speaker 4: wish I knew this in twenty one. I'm thinking of
27:08
Speaker 4: how advanced and how further on I would have been
27:11
Speaker 4: in my life had But then again, sometimes I feel
27:14
Speaker 4: like this is my sermon. I kind of had to
27:18
Speaker 4: not do it so I can take it seriously.
27:20
Speaker 3: Without a test, you don't got no testimony. Boom, you
27:23
Speaker 3: feel me. Without a test, you don't have no y'all.
27:25
Speaker 1: Got come once a month, we got work something.
27:27
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, this is a needed conversation in the culture.
27:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. Facts, But see y'all, see y'all.
27:35
Speaker 4: Remember I felt like career days for me, I take
27:38
Speaker 4: that serious when I do it. So I walk in
27:40
Speaker 4: the career day looking like this, and.
27:42
Speaker 1: Kids be like, dude, what do you do? I said,
27:44
Speaker 1: talk on the radio?
27:46
Speaker 5: They do a podcast?
27:47
Speaker 1: Ever, see that?
27:47
Speaker 4: Because everyone else on career day has a suit on,
27:51
Speaker 4: or they're a fireman or a policeman. They're just not
27:53
Speaker 4: paying attention to all these different things that you can be.
27:57
Speaker 4: You guys, are vital and important because of how you look.
28:02
Speaker 4: I can literally say, wow, that's a job description that
28:04
Speaker 4: I could do.
28:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's normally our first conversation.
28:09
Speaker 3: So we do a lot of community mental health, like
28:11
Speaker 3: working with kids in the community.
28:14
Speaker 5: Who don't even want therapy.
28:15
Speaker 1: That's great.
28:16
Speaker 3: They actually got in trouble, so one of the consequences
28:20
Speaker 3: to whatever they did is seeing us basically.
28:24
Speaker 1: So normally they look at us like, oh I expected
28:28
Speaker 1: to see Okay, this.
28:31
Speaker 5: Ain't so bad. I had a dude, man that was sixteen.
28:34
Speaker 5: He wouldn't speak to me.
28:35
Speaker 3: So he had had therapists before, so he already was
28:38
Speaker 3: privy to the whole process, right, Like, I don't want
28:42
Speaker 3: to talk to no therapists. I'm cool, I said. I
28:45
Speaker 3: had a I had a supervisor at the time. I
28:47
Speaker 3: was like, man, normally these kids gravitate to me, like
28:50
Speaker 3: the way I look. They like, damn, let me what
28:53
Speaker 3: kind of Jesus though, whatever the case may be. So
28:56
Speaker 3: this kid wouldn't say nothing to me, So I'm like, damn.
29:01
Speaker 3: Through to him, I asked my supervisor. He said, embraced
29:05
Speaker 3: the silence. That's the only thing he said to me.
29:08
Speaker 3: Embrace the silence, he said. If he don't talk to
29:10
Speaker 3: you is at the end of the world. I'm like, nah, shit,
29:12
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get paid anyway. So I sat there with him.
29:18
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you don't want to talk to me.
29:20
Speaker 3: Guess what, I don't want to talk to you either.
29:22
Speaker 3: It's my job to talk to you. So shit, I'm
29:24
Speaker 3: gonna sit here for an hour. You sit here for
29:26
Speaker 3: an hour. Were gonna go our separate way. We sat
29:29
Speaker 3: there for two hours like that, one week, an hour
29:32
Speaker 3: silence the next week.
29:33
Speaker 5: By the end of the set, she was like, all right, bro,
29:35
Speaker 5: what you want to talk about? What? He just broke down?
29:38
Speaker 5: Told me everything.
29:40
Speaker 3: I'm mad at my mama, I'm mad at my daddy
29:43
Speaker 3: because of this happened. This happened, This happened, This happened.
29:46
Speaker 3: So it's like, at some point he was like, this
29:49
Speaker 3: dude is a dude just like me. At some point
29:53
Speaker 3: we're gonna get tired of looking at each other in
29:55
Speaker 3: the face and I'm gonna talk to him. And that's
29:56
Speaker 3: what happens. So it's like, like you said, the approachability
30:00
Speaker 3: of it, I mean, just having a normal conversation and
30:03
Speaker 3: not structuring it like therapy.
30:06
Speaker 5: It goes a long way in our community.
30:08
Speaker 3: Definitely, and what I have learned through that experience doing
30:11
Speaker 3: the mental health in the community. It's like when you
30:14
Speaker 3: go to somebody house, you got a different version of them.
30:19
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
30:20
Speaker 3: Like, if they come and sit in your office and
30:22
Speaker 3: sit in the chair and sit up right, they gonna
30:24
Speaker 3: tell you everything you know, prim and proper.
30:26
Speaker 5: And do it the right way.
30:28
Speaker 3: But if you at my house, like, you gonna get
30:31
Speaker 3: a different version of those people. So what I learned
30:34
Speaker 3: how to do is be a translator of mental health
30:38
Speaker 3: stuff into regular stuff. You know what I'm saying, Like
30:41
Speaker 3: if you twelve thirteen years old, you stay in one
30:45
Speaker 3: of them viills Mechanicsville, And he said one of them vials,
30:51
Speaker 3: any one of the bills you in there, right, so Thomasville, Yeah,
30:56
Speaker 3: you remember that. So it was like you your reality
31:01
Speaker 3: is not a long, three four syllable word.
31:05
Speaker 5: Your reality is.
31:08
Speaker 3: Like you said, guns, violence, drugs, you know whatever it is.
31:12
Speaker 3: So you gotta develop a skill set that turns you
31:16
Speaker 3: into a translator.
31:17
Speaker 5: Like, bro, I know all of it.
31:19
Speaker 3: Your treatment plan, because we have a treatment plan. Your
31:22
Speaker 3: treatment plan is confusing to you, right, let me tell
31:25
Speaker 3: you the goals working on anger management, conflict resolution and communication. Communication, right,
31:35
Speaker 3: they can understand that. But if I broke down your
31:37
Speaker 3: whole treatment plan, you're gonna be like, bro, I don't
31:39
Speaker 3: feel like talking about that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah,
31:43
Speaker 3: I got suspended at school for fighting.
31:46
Speaker 5: But he stepped on my brand new shoes. He tried me,
31:49
Speaker 5: He tried.
31:50
Speaker 6: Me, And these are probably conversation that y'all have and
31:53
Speaker 6: y'all over here looking like, bro, this is the least
31:56
Speaker 6: of your words when you become an adult, because stepping
31:58
Speaker 6: on your shoes gonna be when you get these Georgia
32:00
Speaker 6: power bills and you like, you're not gonna be thinking
32:05
Speaker 6: about no new shoes when you know, when you when
32:07
Speaker 6: you really look at like the future. What I want
32:09
Speaker 6: to ask you guys, is that do you guys ever
32:13
Speaker 6: do And I don't even know if it's sustaining, but
32:15
Speaker 6: does law enforcement do therapy?
32:18
Speaker 5: That is a good question. That was amazing question.
32:22
Speaker 3: So we had we got a police officer that lives
32:24
Speaker 3: in our subdivision, so we pulled him to the side
32:27
Speaker 3: when all of this police brutality stuff was.
32:29
Speaker 5: Going on, right, we was like, dang, bro, at the
32:33
Speaker 5: end of.
32:33
Speaker 3: The day, any police officer by the end of the
32:36
Speaker 3: month at least got PTSD just because.
32:42
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
32:43
Speaker 3: So we was talking to him, and he was giving
32:45
Speaker 3: us every reason why police would not go for that.
32:48
Speaker 3: He was like, well, we already got to see a
32:51
Speaker 3: person for this, and then we already got a budget
32:54
Speaker 3: for that, and then I don't know, because we gotta
32:57
Speaker 3: do this and we gotta do that. I'm like, I
32:59
Speaker 3: really don't understand why police wouldn't run to a therapist.
33:05
Speaker 2: It seems like a business.
33:06
Speaker 5: Oh no, I can speak to that too. I think.
33:11
Speaker 3: To speak to what he was saying is I think
33:13
Speaker 3: police officers feel this need to be the controller, you
33:18
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and not to feel like I have.
33:21
Speaker 3: I'm out of I'm outside of my realm of control.
33:26
Speaker 3: So when he was talking to us, because I was
33:28
Speaker 3: right there too, he was trying to tell us how
33:32
Speaker 3: they have that.
33:33
Speaker 5: Under control already, right, And I.
33:36
Speaker 1: Was thinking to myself, obviously.
33:38
Speaker 3: You don't, because for me, I've been, like you said
33:41
Speaker 3: when we were talking about earlier, all of the veils.
33:43
Speaker 3: You go into somebody house, you don't know what's in
33:45
Speaker 3: that house, right, You got to have some savvy about
33:48
Speaker 3: yourself you gotta have some people skills. You got to
33:51
Speaker 3: have some conflict resolution skills. You gotta have some something
33:56
Speaker 3: that allows you to deescalate a conflict as opposed to
34:02
Speaker 3: you know, coming in on the like the strong arm.
34:06
Speaker 5: Right.
34:06
Speaker 3: So a lot of the times, even with you know,
34:08
Speaker 3: people getting killed on the side of the road because
34:10
Speaker 3: they got pulled over for speeding. Yeah, bro, like you,
34:14
Speaker 3: the police officer has to be held accountable for their
34:18
Speaker 3: level of community.
34:19
Speaker 4: And what's their treatment plan when they get into something
34:22
Speaker 4: big to that.
34:23
Speaker 2: And you never you never hear that.
34:24
Speaker 6: And the reason why that I asked that is because
34:27
Speaker 6: like I want to try to break the narrative and
34:29
Speaker 6: break the curse of like our culture has like this,
34:32
Speaker 6: this tension against the police department. So me and ferrari
34:36
Speaker 6: Uh we did a community event with the mayor and
34:38
Speaker 6: ti Uh you know around the holiday season. And one
34:41
Speaker 6: of the conversations that I have with the police department
34:44
Speaker 6: in Atlanta, and I said, hey man, how can we
34:47
Speaker 6: come together and we go talk to these kids and
34:50
Speaker 6: were gonna start breaking his tension.
34:52
Speaker 2: So mentally, what I started doing was.
34:57
Speaker 6: It's something I never did, right, Like you'll go out,
34:59
Speaker 6: you'll see a cop might not speak to the person.
35:01
Speaker 2: He might not even look at the cop.
35:02
Speaker 6: Right, So what I realize is like every time I
35:07
Speaker 6: have an interaction or bypassing with a cop, I'll be like,
35:10
Speaker 6: how you doing, how'd you day going, Like just just
35:14
Speaker 6: having a conversation, and like you can feel the tension,
35:17
Speaker 6: like they like, bro, don't talk to me. That's the reason,
35:24
Speaker 6: that's the reason why it's so much friction. And then
35:27
Speaker 6: I have cops that I'm friends with that work in
35:30
Speaker 6: the nightclubs and ain't the coolest guys ever, I ain't
35:34
Speaker 6: be to you good.
35:35
Speaker 2: But then I said, this is this is the disconnect, right.
35:39
Speaker 6: The disconnect is when you see law enforcement and these
35:43
Speaker 6: people don't have a there's no bridge with the community.
35:46
Speaker 6: Like you can tell you can automatically look at law
35:50
Speaker 6: enforcement and can tell they don't want to talk to you.
35:53
Speaker 3: It's so funny, Like I don't know if this is
35:57
Speaker 3: every black man's experience, but when a police officer just
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Speaker 3: behind me, I pull over.
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Speaker 5: I let that man go, even if I ain't doing
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Speaker 5: nothing wrong.
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Speaker 3: I just feeld man AROUNDTSD when they around me, I
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Speaker 3: feel not safe.
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Speaker 6: You automatically feel like it don't matter, like it don't
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Speaker 6: matter if you're in the right or wrong.
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Speaker 2: You you're wrong, you know what I mean.
36:22
Speaker 6: And like I've had the same the same scenarios to
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Speaker 6: where like I remember I was leaving the radio station.
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Speaker 2: I was driving home and man, this cop followed me like.
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Speaker 6: Five blocks to the port where I just stopped my
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Speaker 6: car and I pulled over. He pulled me over, and
36:37
Speaker 6: I was like, what's up? Why are you following me?
36:41
Speaker 6: Here's all your task spot. I said, Man, you.
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Speaker 2: Didn't have to follow me for five blocks and let
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Speaker 2: me know my tax inspired you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: But granted, he was super cool, super chill about it.
36:53
Speaker 6: I went for a walk in my neighborhood ran into
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Speaker 6: him again. I said, hey, man, you pulled me over earlier.
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Speaker 6: He was like, he was like, yeah, yeah, that was
37:02
Speaker 6: I was like, I appreciate you telling me my tax.
37:04
Speaker 6: My tax has been a spar for three months because
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Speaker 6: my birthday passed and you know, I'm not paying attack.
37:09
Speaker 6: But I had a conversation with him because I'm like,
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Speaker 6: these are conversations that we just need to It just
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Speaker 6: needs to be some type of dialogue to be more
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Speaker 6: It needs.
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Speaker 4: To be more right now, It's like second to none.
37:21
Speaker 4: There's no dialogue between police officers and certain areas and
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Speaker 4: certain people that look like us have a dialogue.
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Speaker 3: So I think people feel like you choose your profession.
37:34
Speaker 3: I think it's the other way around. Profession chooses your
37:37
Speaker 3: profession chooses you. So just think about, I mean, just
37:41
Speaker 3: let's use a mental health term, how much stuff those
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Speaker 3: police officers might have went through before they joined the
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Speaker 3: how much them is the dudes not trying to be funny,
37:53
Speaker 3: didn't make the football team, you know what I'm saying.
37:56
Speaker 3: Nobody respected them at school. Nobody stopped talking when they
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Speaker 3: started talking. So when I'm an adult, I'm about to
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Speaker 3: get a job where you gotta listen to me, you
38:06
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, you don't got no choice
38:08
Speaker 3: but to pull over when I'm behind you.
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Speaker 2: Oh, let's twist it like this.
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Speaker 6: Think about how much they went through the day before
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Speaker 6: they pulled you over, before they talked to you or
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Speaker 6: somebody somebody broke that down to me, because I'm like, man,
38:20
Speaker 6: why every time you run into like law for it's
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Speaker 6: like always It's like they said, Well, think about how
38:26
Speaker 6: many bad people that they had to run into to
38:28
Speaker 6: run into a good person.
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Speaker 1: So they sometimes can't tell who who.
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Speaker 2: They can't tell.
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Speaker 6: Who because they you know, we all they looking at
38:36
Speaker 6: us like we all look the same, so we don't
38:38
Speaker 6: know what you own, you know.
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Speaker 5: What I'm saying. And on top of that day underpaid,
38:43
Speaker 5: you know what.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's fact getting started on that they show.
38:47
Speaker 5: Up broke and man, it's all bad.
38:52
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 4: So I want you guys to promote your company, your
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Speaker 4: mental health therapy company.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Let's let's go into it.
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Speaker 3: So we got a couple of things going on right now.
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Speaker 3: So you can find me on Psychology Today www. Dye
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Speaker 3: psychologytoday dot com. My name is Terrell Tipper, and what
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Speaker 3: my private practice is focused on is actually breaking down
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Speaker 3: the stigma that's attached to mental health in the black community.
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Speaker 5: So if I had to, like, you know, choose a niche,
39:31
Speaker 5: it would be people who was.
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Speaker 3: Like me when I was growing up, Like I grew
39:35
Speaker 3: up in a you know, typical scenario for the for
39:39
Speaker 3: the hood, you know what I'm saying. Like my mom
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Speaker 3: was murdered when I was six, went to low uh,
39:46
Speaker 3: you know, it's life, but I definitely appreciate that, went
39:49
Speaker 3: to live with my grandmama. And my grandma was like
39:53
Speaker 3: she was she was a saint, you know what I'm saying.
39:55
Speaker 3: Like she was a beauty shop owner. And I don't
39:59
Speaker 3: know if you'll ever been in a the shop, but
40:00
Speaker 3: it's similar to the barbershop where people just come in
40:03
Speaker 3: and just unload on. So I was like, damn, Like
40:07
Speaker 3: my my grandmama is like a literal therapist, Like you
40:11
Speaker 3: don't got no credentials for it. But I knew it
40:15
Speaker 3: was serious when my friends start bypassing my room and
40:18
Speaker 3: going to my grandma room, like, hey, bro, I need
40:20
Speaker 3: to talk to your grandmama.
40:21
Speaker 5: I'm stressed.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, for real, I thought you came over here
40:24
Speaker 3: to hoop, like, but it was one of them things
40:30
Speaker 3: where it's like you either blessed with it or you ain't,
40:33
Speaker 3: and it's like you cannot turn that off.
40:37
Speaker 5: It's crazy.
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Speaker 3: I could be going through whatever and somebody, I don't
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Speaker 3: know if you like, what's up?
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Speaker 6: Bro?
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Speaker 5: What's your name? Man? You you? Oh that's your oh man?
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Speaker 3: My my uncle's is twins and they did this and
40:47
Speaker 3: did that, and my daddy.
40:49
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I don't want to know your whole
40:50
Speaker 5: life story. I just met you. Today.
40:53
Speaker 3: But it's something I guess it's written on my face
40:55
Speaker 3: where I actually care about people, you know what I'm
40:58
Speaker 3: saying and what they going through and if it's something
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Speaker 3: that I could give you that can help you through
41:03
Speaker 3: that scenario. Like I said, I don't think you get
41:07
Speaker 3: to choose that. I think that kind of chooses you. Yeah,
41:10
Speaker 3: I agree with that. Another thing that we're working on
41:13
Speaker 3: to us would s be global and that's how we met.
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Speaker 5: Y'all.
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Speaker 2: Yo, say what's up?
41:19
Speaker 5: Say these what's up.
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's like, for
41:22
Speaker 3: a long time we were helping one person at a time,
41:25
Speaker 3: which was great and it was paying the bills. But
41:27
Speaker 3: in order to reach the masses, we kind of be
41:30
Speaker 3: I feel like we need to be a little bit.
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Speaker 5: More in the mainstream so that the platform.
41:36
Speaker 1: You're one of the biggest ones right now.
41:39
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, you forty one, I'm
41:42
Speaker 3: forty one. We grew up in a time where you
41:44
Speaker 3: didn't really just put the camera on you all day
41:46
Speaker 3: every day.
41:47
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. You didn't just broadcast everything.
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Speaker 1: You hated that.
41:52
Speaker 5: I'm just like.
41:53
Speaker 3: Feminine and not masculine, Like, why are you taking pictures
41:56
Speaker 3: all day, every day are.
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Speaker 5: But real.
42:02
Speaker 3: But now it's like we have to embrace that now,
42:05
Speaker 3: Like if you not on Instagram and it's a free platform,
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Speaker 3: it's like you behind.
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Speaker 1: The time and you leave some money on the table too.
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Speaker 3: It's funny you said there, So what I was, what
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Speaker 3: I was noticing is just like you said back in
42:23
Speaker 3: the day, if somebody pulled a camera and start filming you.
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Speaker 1: Like cops like you doing.
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Speaker 3: But now it's almost like like you said, you're leaving
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Speaker 3: money on the table if you're not publicizing what you're doing.
42:37
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like like you said, it
42:39
Speaker 3: could be I could be working with a little Johnny
42:41
Speaker 3: on anger management and he might get through his scenario.
42:45
Speaker 5: But if it was on Instagram.
42:47
Speaker 3: Or on ball er Alert on whatever, it could be
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Speaker 3: fifty little Johnny's.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one thing of one thing I've learned
42:53
Speaker 4: about content. It's replayable, you know, and especially if it's
42:58
Speaker 4: really good content, meaningful and authentic, it lasts a very
43:03
Speaker 4: very long time. I can tell you, man, some people
43:07
Speaker 4: are arguing right now in the comments on my page
43:09
Speaker 4: and me and this guy was just talking about the
43:10
Speaker 4: three top three malls in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: He was like, I don't even go to the mall.
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Speaker 4: So we get in comments of people say yeah, I'm
43:16
Speaker 4: with BT, I don't shop at the mall. And I
43:18
Speaker 4: got people people saying, why the hell you said, stone
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Speaker 4: crass mall?
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Speaker 5: For all right, I'm over here.
43:22
Speaker 1: I like sneakers.
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Speaker 4: They got fifty sneaker stores, and that's in that thirty
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Speaker 4: jewelers stores.
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Speaker 1: It's suitable for me.
43:30
Speaker 5: Anyway.
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Speaker 4: I shadn't say it's content and it's continuing to go.
43:33
Speaker 4: But I feel like, you guys, man, we gotta figure
43:35
Speaker 4: this out because.
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Speaker 6: We definitely gonna we definitely gonna do a part two, three,
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Speaker 6: four five.
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Speaker 2: See, yeah, we're gon We're gonna.
43:43
Speaker 1: This is essential.
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Speaker 4: You guys are essential workers, Yes, telling you bro, anything
43:50
Speaker 4: with the mod like you guys, trainers like the good ones.
43:53
Speaker 4: Of course, in the gym, I was talking to my
43:55
Speaker 4: man Jay Rock. Since I got disciplined with my fitness
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Speaker 4: and my mental health, I feel so wealthy. This don't
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Speaker 4: got nothing to do with money, bro. I can literally
44:07
Speaker 4: look at somebody and be like, yeah, you fucked up,
44:09
Speaker 4: But it's got.
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Speaker 5: Nothing to do with money.
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Speaker 1: You got, you got some other shit going on.
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Speaker 4: I'm cool, because I can navigate mentally through whatever, because
44:18
Speaker 4: I said boundaries, I'm working out, I'm getting, I'm getting
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Speaker 4: all my ship off, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: How damn you know, sometimes I'll be having days, but
44:29
Speaker 6: you know what, I do realize that like a lot
44:32
Speaker 6: of times, uh, people might be rich financially, but people
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Speaker 6: ain't rich in spiriting. And you can see it on
44:38
Speaker 6: people's faces all the time. I see hundreds of people
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Speaker 6: a day and you might be like, why does this
44:43
Speaker 6: person act like this, and like they mind ain't right,
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Speaker 6: you know, and you can't. And I learned you can't
44:50
Speaker 6: match energy.
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Speaker 5: You can't because it's too many, it's too many to
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Speaker 5: try to match.
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Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like financial being financially set,
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Speaker 3: that that skill set is totally opposite from being good.
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Speaker 5: In the head.
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Speaker 1: We will do that part two.
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Speaker 6: That's all.
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Speaker 2: Listen, listen, we're gonna bring y'all that.
45:14
Speaker 5: We're gonna bring yaf that lot.
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Speaker 4: Our cameras running out to So yeah, boy, that's the
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Speaker 4: whole things that.
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Speaker 3: Make you mentally sound work against you, show man. You
45:26
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like most folks that got the
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Speaker 3: most money.
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Speaker 2: That I know, oh man, oh man.
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Speaker 5: Wait and yes, people around stop.
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Speaker 4: Stop stop, we got we gotta definitely do a part
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Speaker 4: two three four tell them how to follow.
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Speaker 5: You follow me on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Uh, y'all got separate Instagram right, So.
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Speaker 3: My Instagram is Tip Life T e P Underscore Life
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Speaker 3: with a Y and minus.
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Speaker 2: Man, we thought to do a part too.
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Speaker 5: Don't work mental health is real. We appreciate y'all.
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Speaker 6: HM,