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It's NCAA tournament time; here's a bracket breakdown and a look at how we got here · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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  Speaker 1: Uscho dot com conference tournaments are over. The NCAA Tournament
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  Speaker 1: is next high and welcome to the podcast. I'm Todd
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  Speaker 1: Mlusky here with Nicole Hawsey, looking back on what we
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  Speaker 1: saw with five conference champions crowned on Saturday and then
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  Speaker 1: the brackets announced on Sunday for the eleven team NCAA
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  Speaker 1: National Collegiate Women's Hockey Tournament. Nicole, let's I guess maybe
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  Speaker 1: look back first, Do you have any I guess maybe
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  Speaker 1: any takes on just what we saw from the the
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  Speaker 1: on ice play over the weekend in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: having some championships won in overtime and having some games
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  Speaker 1: go to multiple overtimes, and it did seem like a
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  Speaker 1: pretty compelling weekend.
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  Speaker 2: It was, and I think I felt like any time
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  Speaker 2: I thought maybe I had a little bit grasp on
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  Speaker 2: things like like you know, I was assuming Cornell would
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  Speaker 2: be tired after a three over time game. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they turned around and scored two goals in the opening
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  Speaker 2: two minutes, or you know, sort of basing the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks of the regular season how Minnesota had performed,
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  Speaker 2: and they came out and showed, you know that they're
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  Speaker 2: a different team in the postseason, so I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was all really interesting between the you know, the let's say,
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  Speaker 2: the upset in New Ha, the overtimes, just surprising outcomes.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I overall, I was great, even though you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were both in house for w CCH like, I
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  Speaker 2: loved how the games were staggered and I had we
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  Speaker 2: both had our tablets up watching games, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: whole time. It was awesome to be able to watch
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  Speaker 2: and not have everything happening all at once.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cornell winning the championship in ECAC Hockey Wisconsin and
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  Speaker 1: w CCHA, Penn State in Atlantic Hockey America, Boston University
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  Speaker 1: and Hockey East, and Sacred Heart in New haw We'll
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  Speaker 1: get into all of those as we go through the
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  Speaker 1: first segment here. I want to start with the ones,
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  Speaker 1: the three tournament games, three conference championship games that were
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  Speaker 1: win or you're out for one of the teams at least.
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  Speaker 1: That's Atlantic Hockey, Hockey East and New high and in
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  Speaker 1: Hockey East, Boston University three, Northeastern two in overtime. The
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  Speaker 1: Terriers trailed in the third period, but Clara un tied
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  Speaker 1: the score and then Sidney Heay got the overtime winner.
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  Speaker 1: There is six Hockey East title, but there first since
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Think about that, that it's been ten years
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  Speaker 1: since BU has been in the tournament. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: they had to do it the hard way. All three
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  Speaker 1: of their wins in overtime or double overtime in the
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  Speaker 1: Hockey East Tournament and that's I mean, there's some resilience
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  Speaker 1: there and being down against a really good team again
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  Speaker 1: like Northeastern that knows how to lock things down in
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  Speaker 1: the third period. Not the way you want to be playing,
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  Speaker 1: but they found a way to get it done.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, Northeastern is the is a third period team,
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  Speaker 2: right Like as soon as that they went into that
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  Speaker 2: with the advantage, I thought, oh, this is the end
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  Speaker 2: of the road for BEU. And you know, we talked
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  Speaker 2: last week, like you kind of said, like you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be the team that keeps sonning in overtime,
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  Speaker 2: like that doesn't vode well for you, but like, hey
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  Speaker 2: keeps working, so you know, do you go with what works.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the Cardiac kids could have been a monarch
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  Speaker 2: for about six different teams as the season won't wound down,
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  Speaker 2: but I think be You's taking the cake there. That
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  Speaker 2: was a weird game. There were just long stretches without
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  Speaker 2: shots from both teams and just a very like, sort
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  Speaker 2: of strange way that game came together. But yeah, really exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean literally, the last time BU was in the
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  Speaker 2: tournament briefly plan was there, right, Like, that's how long
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  Speaker 2: ago we're talking for people. And very cool for Tara Watchhorton.
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  Speaker 2: This is her alma mater. You know, she went back
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  Speaker 2: to coach there. It's only her second year. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we'd be You's been a storyline we've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: literally since that first weekend, So very cool to see
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  Speaker 2: it come to fruition. I you know, I was disappointed
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  Speaker 2: for them when they had lost the regular season in
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  Speaker 2: that final weekend, and it felt like this would be
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  Speaker 2: good redemption and with the overtimes, I was where they
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  Speaker 2: were going to get it. So yeah, just super compelling
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  Speaker 2: to me that this team nobody picked to do well
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  Speaker 2: as the team that got the NCA bid, and I
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  Speaker 2: saw the Terriers chose to give the game puck to
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  Speaker 2: Tara Watchorn, which was Yeah, it was really the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing was just really touching and sweet and did a
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  Speaker 2: huge step for that program that had been sort of
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  Speaker 2: at the top before but not in recent years.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it feels like this has been a couple of
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  Speaker 1: different seasons than one. For bid, you had a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good start, got their name out there again, kind of
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  Speaker 1: fell off a little bit, picked it back up, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, like we've mentioned, toward the last couple
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  Speaker 1: weeks of the regular season, had some struggles and couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get the point that they needed in the last weekend
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  Speaker 1: against Yukon to win the regular season championship. But then
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  Speaker 1: to do this over two weeks in the Hockey Tournament,
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  Speaker 1: of getting forced to overtime three times and coming out
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  Speaker 1: with wins all of them, you start to think, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's there's something charmed a little bit there toward
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  Speaker 1: the finish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely something of that resiliency, right, Like you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it about the postseason, but I think it probably
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  Speaker 2: talks about their whole season, like things went a little poorly,
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  Speaker 2: but they they you know, they came back in the
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  Speaker 2: second half. And it's always funny, I mean, especially when
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  Speaker 2: we're talking the postseason. I mean, it feels like it's
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  Speaker 2: been a couple of seasons in the last two weeks,
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  Speaker 2: and one of the things when I'm doing, like U
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  Speaker 2: eighteen Women's World Championships. Is how it feels like so
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  Speaker 2: much happens and shut such a short amount of time,
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  Speaker 2: like to see a team grow in like just a
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  Speaker 2: handful of games and in like ten days. And I
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  Speaker 2: feel like we saw a lot of growth from teams
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  Speaker 2: from like say that the first weekend of the conference
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  Speaker 2: tournaments to now, and so that's always interesting to me.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's really good that it's a good
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  Speaker 2: sign for what be you could be able to do
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  Speaker 2: this postseason that they were sort of sort of able
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  Speaker 2: to answer some of those questions and make that bounce back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move over to Atlantic Coacki America, Penn State
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  Speaker 1: another well, I was College Hockey America the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of seasons or before this. Now it's Atlanta Cockay America.
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  Speaker 1: But they're still the champion.
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  Speaker 2: Every time I've tried to figure out how to write that,
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  Speaker 2: like twenty sentences and I'm like, I got nothing. Well, just.
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  Speaker 1: They beat most Hearson the championship game for I believe
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  Speaker 1: the third time in a row. All those Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a four to one win for the Nidney Lions.
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  Speaker 1: On Saturday, Brionna Brooks two goals in that championship game,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Penn State, uh is is the team
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  Speaker 1: to beat in that conference, has been and will be,
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  Speaker 1: and no one's taken her away from home yet.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's a good sign for Penn State that they
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  Speaker 2: did that without Tessa Janick scoring in that game, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like they have her in their back pocket, but they
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  Speaker 2: the part where they don't need her, I think is
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  Speaker 2: really important. And we'll get to this, but there it's
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  Speaker 2: a rematch for them in the NCAAs this year in
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  Speaker 2: that first round game, and I just think there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot that they've learned in a lot of growing they've done.
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  Speaker 2: And so to get that really secure win, this wasn't
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  Speaker 2: like we weren't sure. Mercy Hurst is the only team
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  Speaker 2: that had given them trouble within the conference. We weren't
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  Speaker 2: sure what to expect, and I felt like they kind
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  Speaker 2: of they handled that. You know, it was two oh
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  Speaker 2: right away Mercy Hurst cut into the lead, but it
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  Speaker 2: really just didn't feel in doubt for the Allions and
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  Speaker 2: so just a really strong, you know showing for them,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they got to have the confidence heading
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  Speaker 2: into that heading into the NCAA's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Penn State was locked into the tournament, either as
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  Speaker 1: an at large or with the automatic qualifier by winning
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  Speaker 1: the conference tournament. Going in the Saturday, Mercyris needed to
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  Speaker 1: win that to get in, and if the Lakers had won,
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  Speaker 1: that would have kept Saint Lawrence out as as the
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  Speaker 1: last at large team. So there was there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot a lot of eyes on that game Saturday afternoon
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  Speaker 1: into evening too to see how that was going to
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  Speaker 1: shake out. It is, you know, probably important to mention
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  Speaker 1: that we'll get in this little bit more. It does
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  Speaker 1: create that that rematch in the first round Penn State
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  Speaker 1: Saint Lawrence, who saw that in Madison last year in
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  Speaker 1: an overtime game that the the Saints won, won nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I believe right that was the only goal of the game.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was scoreding overtime.
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  Speaker 2: Have to be sounds, it might have been, Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was low scoring, whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Penn State is going to be I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they got a little bit more experienced now that it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's starting to roll for them. Any team
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  Speaker 1: with Tesla Janicky, as we mentioned, is going to have
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  Speaker 1: a chance. And so we'll get into more on them later.
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  Speaker 1: But another really good story for for Penn State, who's
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  Speaker 1: having some pretty good fortunes on women's and men's sides
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  Speaker 1: right right now, men's teams doing one of the hot
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  Speaker 1: is one of the hotest teams in the country. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean look at Fence State with on the women's
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  Speaker 1: side with thirty one wins, pretty pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: It was a one nothing game, Okay, I.
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  Speaker 1: Forget a lot of things, and but that was one
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  Speaker 1: of those, Like I was wondering how long we were
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  Speaker 1: going to go with that game. Yeah, zero zero, But
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 2: A really good game. They were just well well matched
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  Speaker 2: teams and back and forth in the strategy of it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sure they're not thrilled about playing each other again,
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  Speaker 2: but for for for the I think it'll be a
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  Speaker 2: fun name to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get into our next segment a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of how that shook out of why those two
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  Speaker 1: teams are matched again. But let's move over to the
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  Speaker 1: new HA Sacred Heart with its first conference championship A
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  Speaker 1: or first NCAA appearance, four two win at Long Island
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  Speaker 1: to wrap up that championship on Saturday. Isabella chaphoo I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say shaphooh or shot put, I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry I pronounced it French. I don't know for sure,
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  Speaker 1: so I apologize in advantage.
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  Speaker 2: Did go looking for a pronunciation? Guy? We tried.
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  Speaker 1: Sacred Heart fell behind one nothing, but she scored twice
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  Speaker 1: to tie the game and then to give a three
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  Speaker 1: to one lead. Sacred Heart comes away with this one
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  Speaker 1: on the road. Impressive feet there. And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think we've mentioned before Sacred Heart and l I you
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  Speaker 1: were kind of neck and neck for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Sacred Heart fell off a little bit at the end
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  Speaker 1: and dropped to the third seed. But here they are
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  Speaker 1: with the conference championship in the end and the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: tournament bit a really good thing for them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said this on my nc notebook this morning
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  Speaker 2: at Victory Press. But this, this was the the only
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  Speaker 2: happy thing about one of the They have the camera.
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  Speaker 2: The angle that you have to watch the game from
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  Speaker 2: is at the back of the bleachers, so it's it's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty far away view of the ice, but you
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  Speaker 2: do get to see a lot of the bleachers. And goodness,
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  Speaker 2: were the Sacred Heart fans so adorable so into it
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  Speaker 2: just every like they they made watching that extra joyful,
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  Speaker 2: like you could just I mean, I had that on.
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  Speaker 2: That was the last game of the night. So I
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  Speaker 2: was back in my hotel room writing up the w
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  Speaker 2: C story and so I had this game on my
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  Speaker 2: tablet but with the sound off, and but you could
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  Speaker 2: just like the joy was infectious, Like I was getting
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  Speaker 2: all of their excitement and I didn't even have the
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  Speaker 2: sound on. Just every play, every stop, every save. Their
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  Speaker 2: fans were just so into it. It was it made it
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  Speaker 2: an even more fun watch. And yeah, just a really
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  Speaker 2: good showing. Like you said, they they were a Sacred
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  Speaker 2: Heart went down at one point, l a U brought
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  Speaker 2: back in with within one, but Sacred Heart quickly scored
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  Speaker 2: after that. Just it kind of felt like they they
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  Speaker 2: weren't going to lose that game, Like they went in
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  Speaker 2: there thinking, you know, with the attitude like this, that
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  Speaker 2: this isn't going to happen, We're going to do this.
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  Speaker 2: And so is there technically their second conference tournament championship,
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  Speaker 2: they won in the first year of the new HA
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  Speaker 2: when they did not yet have an auto bid.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, right, but it's the first first NCAA tournament appearance.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, so huge, huge, huge win for them. They were
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  Speaker 2: just like I said, the fans joy and then the
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  Speaker 2: ladies on the ice afterwards. It was it was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun, I think, as particularly at the end
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  Speaker 2: of a very busy weekend. It was just it was
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  Speaker 2: a good sort of reminder of what we're all doing
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  Speaker 2: and what they're playing for, and like why this is
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  Speaker 2: so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: So those were the three conferences that all went direct
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  Speaker 1: to championship game on Saturday without semifinals on Friday. E
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  Speaker 1: C a C and w C h A both had
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  Speaker 1: the semis on Friday, and ECAC started off with a
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  Speaker 1: marathon Cornell at the host of the tournament ATLTA three
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  Speaker 1: overtime to one win over Clarkson Lee de Leonidas. The
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  Speaker 1: goal one hundred and three minutes and thirty three seconds
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  Speaker 1: into that one anlie bergman fifty four save for the win.
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  Speaker 1: That you know, when you're getting into the third overtime,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have a pretty high save count for whoever
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  Speaker 1: gets to win there, and that that was certainly the case.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned that that's that's a heck of a way
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  Speaker 1: to start a championship weekend. We were talking a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as was going on that. Man, you feel a
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  Speaker 1: little bit for the the Colgate and Saint Lawrence. Teams
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  Speaker 1: that are there just waiting for their their chance, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have to wait an extra hour their you know, pregame
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  Speaker 1: gets delayed. It's really it was.
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  Speaker 2: Two hours they like they started two hours later then planned.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know, you start thinking, okay, where are
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  Speaker 1: we finding the food for the intermissions because we might
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  Speaker 1: need something or get a little stretched out here from
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  Speaker 1: the pregame meal. And it's a but that second game
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  Speaker 1: turned out to be a pretty good one too, even
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  Speaker 1: though it started with a three to nothing lead for
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  Speaker 1: Colegate Saint Lawrence came back to cut that the three
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  Speaker 1: to two. Alisa Biederman scored an empty netter for a
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  Speaker 1: four to Colgate win, setting up the championship game, which
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  Speaker 1: I mean really everyone you know maybe saw coming number
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  Speaker 1: the teams that kind of were chasing the championship and
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  Speaker 1: it ended up being a winner gets a home game
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  Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament. I think loser has to go
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  Speaker 1: on the road. Cornell got that win, as you mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 1: with two quick goals early in a five to one win.
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  Speaker 1: McKenna van Gelder and Lindsey Avar scored those first period
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  Speaker 1: goals for Cornell Correll Prefontaine scored in the third period
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  Speaker 1: to make it three to one, and then they added
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  Speaker 1: two empty netters. First playoff championship. Speaking like bu we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about had won a playoff championships in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: so it's been since twenty fourteen for Cornell that had
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  Speaker 1: its largest crowd at line of rink since before the pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. Eighteen seventy on hand for that
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  Speaker 1: largest crowd for women's hockey game since the pandemic. I
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  Speaker 1: should say that's nice to see that the fans got
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  Speaker 1: involved there, that they had a good crowd for it,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Colgate would would, you know, rather that
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  Speaker 1: score line be a little closer, But you know, throw
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  Speaker 1: two empty netters in. There's every one game.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really hard to come back when you're down
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  Speaker 2: two zero after two minutes in the game, end of
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  Speaker 2: the game, and then that they are at home. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is for me, one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: took from this is we you know, we kind of
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  Speaker 2: talked all year long about like every point matters in
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  Speaker 2: the conference. Cornell won the right to host this by
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  Speaker 2: winning the conference regular season titled by two points, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this is a team that comes
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  Speaker 2: back from a three overtime, one hundred plus minute game
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  Speaker 2: to score two goals in the opening minutes of the
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  Speaker 2: next game if they're.
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  Speaker 1: Not at home, right, and especially because if they're not
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  Speaker 1: at home, they're playing the second game in the three
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  Speaker 1: overtimes and even later for a yeah, and turn around right.
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  Speaker 2: So I just like, and there were times I felt
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  Speaker 2: like maybe we were pushing too hard and like why
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  Speaker 2: all that was important in the seating and all that
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  Speaker 2: sort of stuff, but like you extrapolated out and like
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  Speaker 2: I just think they really felt like a they got
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  Speaker 2: to sleep in their own beds and things like that,
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  Speaker 2: but also they just really fed on that home crowd
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  Speaker 2: and it was it was allowed in there definitely made me.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of those where I was like, why
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  Speaker 2: I wish I was there? I like, now I'm really
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  Speaker 2: I mean I already did want to go to see
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  Speaker 2: a game there, but I was like, it really put
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  Speaker 2: me in the like fomo of wanting to go see
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  Speaker 2: a game in LINEU. They were just loud and fun,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's just they created an atmosphere that
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  Speaker 2: got their team going that put Colgate in a hole
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  Speaker 2: early and really like pretty much decide. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: decided that game before it really even got started. Like
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  Speaker 2: everything should have been working against Cornell there in terms
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  Speaker 2: of heavy legs and all that sort of stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: to be able to come out and make that difference
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  Speaker 2: so quickly, it was I think just absolutely everything for
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  Speaker 2: them to be able to win that game.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then in the WHA, the final face off in Duluth,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin started off with a three to one win over
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the host Bulldogs despite falling behind in the first period.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Caroline Harvey scored the goal ahead goal in the second
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: period for the Badgers. And then in the second game Friday,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Minnesota fell down fell down to nothing in the first
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: period against Ohio State, but got back in it with
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: two power play goals before the end of the first period,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Abby Murphy and Ella Huber getting those, and then Audrey
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Wethington scoring in the second period to give the goal
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: forer his lead for good. Six to two. Final there,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: and that final did not sit answer, Yeah, did not
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: sit well on the Ohio State side, did it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: It did not. Yeah. It was one of the more
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: awkward and postgame press conferences we've been to for sure.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I will say I like, there were I literally have
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: had so many people contacting me about rumors about what
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: was said or done with Ohio State. And you know,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Nadine is who she is, and I'm not going to
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: defend or or you know, whatever anythings. I do think
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: it is telling to me that those conversations are head
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: about a woman coach and not a man coach. And
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, we just really need to think
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: about some of that stuff and why people are up
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: in arms or upset about things. But you know, she
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: was pretty measured in the postseason in the postgame press conference,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and her point was not that her team lost. It
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: was that she felt like they quit and gave up, said.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That we quit and said with two of her players
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: right on either side of her, and you know, we quit.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And so I don't think she's saying anything there that
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: she didn't say a couple of minutes earlier in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: locker room either.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I just she was like, if we lose,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: we lose, but we're going to take it on the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: chin and we're going to go down fighting, and she
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like her team did that, and uh, yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: it was. It was a weird game. I mean it
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: was not the way that I thought either team would
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: play in that game for sure, but yeah, it the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: way that Ohio State can play when they go out
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: to a too o lead. I was like, this is
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: this is not good for the Gophers were kind of good.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Good for whoever they're playing. Really, I would feel that
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: about whatever team went down quickly to to Ohio State.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: So uh yeah, just a strange game all around. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I will say, I, you know, an upset
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and ticked off Ohio State is not a team I
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: want to face as an oppoint.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Last year when we got into the NCAA tournament, when
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: they put a epic beat down on Duluth in their game, yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: They I mean to some extent this, you know, mozerall
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: talked about it in the press conference, Like they got
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: beat by Wisconsin pretty bad in the w c h
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I final last year. They didn't love that either. Uh
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And obviously they turn around and won the nationalchampionship beating
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin one nothing. So if not only regardless of last
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: year's out come, if there's any coach that I think
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: can you know, sort of talk to her team and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: motivate them and make the changes need to be made.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: In a week. It's her add in that they did
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: this last year, and like, I mean, I don't think
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: there's anything to worry about if you're a Buckeye fan.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a great showing, I will, you know, but
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: last year's team was full of prad students, Like they
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: had a really experienced team, and this is overall a
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: fairly young team. The top players in the top scorers
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: on that team are sophomores. They played in last year,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: but they weren't in starring roles for the most part. Right,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: like joy done is joy done, But like they weren't.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: They weren't the leadership. They weren't you know, caring as
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: much on their shoulders. So it's all a learning experience
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and they're gonna be better for having lost that game.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, every coach to a person this weekend talked
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: about sort of you learn more from games like this.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You know, Minnesota Duluce was really happy with the game
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: they played, even though you know it was another comfort
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: behind win for Wisconsin who had just done that to
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: them twice in Duluth. Like, they played the game they
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: wanted to play. They kept a very prolific Wisconsin offense
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: to like a pretty low score, all of that sort
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: of stuff, and so like that's a huge learning experience
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: for them. There has to be some confidence for them,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: like this is the game we wanted to play, this
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: is how we wanted to win. In Minnesota felt the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: same way and losing the game the championship game. So yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: all of that to say is like I'm not worried
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: about any of those four teams from that in terms
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: of the showing or you know what they looked like.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I think Ohio State will be just fine.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: That championship game that you mentioned went down to the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: final minute. Badgers got a four to three win over
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the Gophers. Sarah Wasnavic with a finish with twenty four
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and a half seconds left to break the tie off
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of a really nice behind or between the legs, behind
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the back, and how we want to look at it,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: passed from Casey O'Brien to set that up. So the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Badgers win the final face off for the second straight year.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: They're five and zero against the Gophers this season, which
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: is I mean, and those games, a couple of them
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: have have been runaway wins, but this last one certainly
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was not the second one at Minnesota certainly was not.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: The Badgers had to come from three nothing down to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: win that one. This is a potential frozen four semifinal
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: matchup that we're looking at the way the brackets have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: have shaken out, and I you know, the Minnesota players
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: after that one were they're ready for it if it,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: if it comes, they they want that chance again because
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they know that they're right there with Wisconsin and yeah, Natalie, it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Was like, I want them again. I believe we can
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: beat them. So that was like the most confident I
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: feel like I've seen a team after a loss in
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: a while. Yeah, just sort of like there there was
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: no nobody on Minnesota was. I mean, obviously they were
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: upset they lost, but nobody came out of that being
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: like upset with the team or upset with their performance
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: or like I feel like they they gained the confidence
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: having just lost two pretty pretty overwhelming games to the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Badgers in Madison, like this was a huge step forward
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: for them and just the confidence, and coach Bradfrost said
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it wasn't It's not just the confidence knowing that you
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: can beat Wisconsin or beat the number one team, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that you can play with anybody, even though they have
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: been highly ranked, like they have lost several more games,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and like they're you know, have benefit from a strength
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of schedule and things like that, and so some losses
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: they would have liked to not have and things like
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: that and so and in big, big picture, there probably
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: could have or would have been some question marks with
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: them in terms of going into this postseason. And that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: game really sort of quieted any sort of personal disquiet.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I think any of the players might add, like, we
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: can play with the best team in the country, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: we lost on the fluke of a goal.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin goes in the NCAA's thirty five to one and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: two with twenty four straight or twenty four games without
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a loss. It's, you know, it's really impressive numbers. It's
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: also you know, the time of the season where that
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: really doesn't mean a lot. You know, it gets you
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a good seed, but you know, one loss throws that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: all in the in the in the recycling bin.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: We've seed it from plenty of teams and both bens
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and women's in college, right, and I don't know I
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: will you know, like goalie even McNaughton said all the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: right things after the game in terms of like it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: one and done. We know that like this is a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: new season, slate, white, clean, all that sort of stuff.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I think one of the good things for the Badgers
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: out of the last few weeks is the different ways
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that they've won a game. You know that semi final game,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: didn't you see Casey O'Brien didn't have a shot until
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: like late in that game.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even have an attempt in the first
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: two periods, I want to say, or maybe until late
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: in the second period now.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: So just different people doing things and coming from behind
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and responding all the stuff that they haven't had to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: do a ton of in some of their games this year.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: So I think in terms of being prepared for what
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: it takes in the postseason, I feel like they've done
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a good job in the past couple of weeks of
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: finding different ways to win. And I think much like
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: we were just talking about with Minnesota, like you that
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: confidence regardless of whether you're a one lost team or not,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: like you need to know that you can face adversity
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and come out of it. I think that's that's a
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: huge thing for any athlete, but I think when you're
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: talking twenty year olds, it's a huge that mental bit
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yep. All right, that's our look back at conference championship weekend.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: When we return, we will turn our attention to the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament. Stay with us on the podcast. Welcome back
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to the podcast, Todd Miluski and Nicole Hasey. Here, let's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: take a look at the NCAA Tournament bracket that was
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: released Sunday morning, Wisconsin. As everyone knew, was the number
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: one overall seed. And there okay, no surprises, none surprises,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: zero in terms of how things shook out here, right, Nicole.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, regardless of the drama the selection show tried to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: drum up. Uh, we had two straight committee chairs tell
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: us that, like they're gonna go with the pair wise
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and you know, last year it was literally straight down.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: This year we had to make a change because of
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: intra con int in it doesn't matter two teams from
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the same conference playing in the regional semifinal. But yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: this was I literally this is the bracket we assumed
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it would be before the show ever happened. Right, looking
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: at everything based because we've had two state committee chairs
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: tell us how they're gonna make those decisions, it's it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: pretty straightforward.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that led us with Wisconsin in the one
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: overall seed, Ohio State at the number two, Cornell moving
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: past Minnesota for the three, Minnesota king of the four.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: That was the interesting thing about Saturday's games. Minnesota could
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: been the number three overall with a win in the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: WHCH Championship game and most likely then hosting Minnesota Duluth
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and Sacred Heart, which would have kept the Duluth fans
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: closer to home or the team closer to home. But yeah,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: how many times have they had to go through rhetor
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: It's strange. But so Colgate at the five goes to Minnesota,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that being because Colgate could have taken the three if
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it had beaten Cornell, but Cornell won that one, so
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it fell out and fell into a going on the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: road spot in that five seed which plays the four.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: That's automatic. That is one thing that the committee has
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: no choice on whatsoever. Who's ever in number four, who's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: ever in number five, They're going to play each other.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That's something that's set up. The one thing, as Nicole mentioned,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that they did have to change was that the eight
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and nine ended up to be both ECAC Hockey teams.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Eight Saint Law or sorry eight Clarkson and nine Saint Lawrence,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and so those teams can't play in the first round
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: unless there is a glut of teams from the same
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: conference in that bottom those what would be in those
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: first round games. So they moved while they swapped out
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Boston University and Saint Lawrence, sending Boston University to play
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Clarkson and giving us that rematch Penn State Saint Lawrence
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: for the first round.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: There what's interesting about that eight nine is the is
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the committee told us they're sort of bands, and they
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: only moved teams within those bands. And so eight and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: nine are in two different bands, so you would either
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: switch the eight with someone above them or the nine
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: with someone below them, And so that that would have
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: been the only sort of questions to what they did.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And it was what nine and ten were much closer
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: in NBI, right and than seven were.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're gonna try and move within one spot
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: if you can, and so that's why you're looking at
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: either swapping seven and eight or swapping nine and ten,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and seven and eight were yeah, farther apart in NPI
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: than nine and ten. So that was that made it
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier choice. And plus I think I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: don't know if it would have made much of a difference,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: but I've kind of had the feeling that they liked it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Try to protect the number one overall seed and make
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: sure they face the number eight or you know how
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: when it lines up that that's who they would get
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in second their first game. So that's I don't think
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that played much into it this one. It just made
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: more sense to stick with the you know, swapping teams
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that are closer in NPI. So yeah, that's that was
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: really the only change they had to make. It was
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward otherwise, I can't imagine that call took too
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: too long. As long as everyone had their hosting bids
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in and everything like that. Everything checked out there, so
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we got a half hour show out of that with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a couple of commercial breaks. I can see the pain
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: on Nicole's face already.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: It is the most awkward, painful selection show it possibly
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: could have been.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll I'll kind of excuse myself here because racket
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I just started working on things and kind of tuned
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I still had it on, but I had tuned it out.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I I we know that you know, there's not a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: lot of women's hockey on television. On linear television, there's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a lot everything basically is on streams. You can find
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: everything you want, but ESPN jumps into it. In the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, there's a couple of games they showed the
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the Hockey East Championship, and there's been I don't know
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: if there was anything else this season, but I know
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: there's been games on in the past. There was that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: There was one Hockey East game I think maybe the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: BC Wisconsin game early in the season at BC was
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: was on ESPN two or ESPN one of the ESPNU
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And Nesson is an ESPN property, and Nesson shows quite
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a bit of hockey, right.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: They have the main part of the deal, but ESPN
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: also carries the the online portion of it, so that's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: their distribute distribution there. I just wonder what your thoughts
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: are on what we saw on TV and kind of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: where it leads us into what we're going to see
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in the next two weeks on TV.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Goodness. I mean, I've made my thoughts pretty clear on
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: this on on social media. It was it was a
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: train wreck. It was a disaster, and it was an
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: embarrassment and it was disrespectful to the players, and I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: sorry if that's too blunt for people. I don't want
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: it to be a personal attack and any of the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: three people that did it. But if you are going
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to create the show and put it on television, I
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: think you need to put people on that show that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: are going to be able to reliably talk about what
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: they need to talk about about the teams. Literally, I
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: don't know that any employer that was mentioned or coach
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: had their name pronounced correctly. And we are talking mispronunciations
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: of uh. Of course I said that word. Weird. Mispronunciations
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: of Brad Frost and Casey O'Brien, you know, really tough, difficult,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: hard to understand names never come across those before. In
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: this game, Kirstensen's name was spelled completely wrong. It was Kristin,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and it was Ian not Ian, and so instead of
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Kirsten Ian, it was kristen Ian Uh. In the Patti
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Cast Top ten graphic they had Paige Capastrawn said that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Ohio State was looking to avenge their loss in the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: National Championship game last year. Spoiler alert, They won that
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: game and attempted to fix it after coming back from break.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: That was actually even more awkward I kind of wish
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: that she would just apologize for got getting it wrong
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and moving and then just moved ahead it. You know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: there was not one bit of in depth analysis. There
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: was not one bit of discussion of sort of what
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: to look for in the games. As the brackets were announced,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: like why is this an interesting matchup? Nobody mentioned that
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Penn State and Saint Lawrence you know, had that history.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: There was There's just there's a lot of low hanging fruit.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of information out there. ESPN has researchers,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: there are people like I personally would have liked, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: if these are the people you're putting on the stage,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I think they should be able to like organically talk
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: about these things. Again, the bracket wasn't a surprise, so
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: like what they were now, this was all information that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: like should have been prepared and they would have known
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: ahead of time. We knew, you know, all what it
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: was possible for twelve different teams to get in and
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that was it or thirteen, Like there wasn't There wasn't
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: this vast array of information that like they had to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: plan for. And again they like people that were on stage,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: they employ other people to do all this research and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: just nothing was there. We got things like I love
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: hockey and look at that top five, like this is
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the analysis we were getting, and it was just it
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: was awkward, it was stilted, and I just mostly I'm
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: upset for the players. I mean, they very rarely get
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: this sort of attention, you know, to be an ESPN
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: to get a full selection show and to have it
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: go like that, to not even get the respect of
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: their names pronounced correctly, just over and over and over again.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: But why bother doing the show if you're not going
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: to put it's half an hour show, And it was
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: just so clear that nobody put any time or effort
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: into ensuring that it was like informative or helpful. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: if I'm somebody that has never watched this and I'm like, oh,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a selection show, I'm excited. I'm a PWh L fan,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and I'm excited about watching the women's college hockey tournament.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about these teams or those games
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: based on watching that show, and so that's it's just
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: really frustrating. And it goes to the same conversation we've
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: had about you know, you have to there has to
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: be buy in, there has to be production value, all
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: of those sorts of things, and these three people tripped
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: over their words. They were awkward, they were nervous. It was.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: It was an uncomfortable watch and nothing about that to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: me said please come watch more women's college hockey with us,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and and you know, I I'm so flustered. I just
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: it was it was really I was really disappointed in
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the end that that's that was the showcase that are
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the players got and that our game got. You know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: we've talked in the past about like it made a
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: difference when when w NBA games started getting people commentated
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: about it that could give stories about the game and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: could break down the place. It made a difference when
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the women's basketball tournament started getting actual production value and
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the time and energy put into it that the men's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: basketball tournament was getting, and what we got here made
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it clear that there's still just this massive gap, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: that was frustrating. I don't I have I don't know.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I I could say it's seventy two different ways, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I put some of it out on social media, but yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I just it was after such an exciting weekend of
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: such amazing hockey to get that it was just like
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it all fell really flat.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you. The highlight of the show for me
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: was Hogy dancing in the room. And I know they
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they appreciated that in the studio too, but everyone loves
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Hogy and Duluth and with good reason, and to see
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: him cut it up on the floor and everyone was
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a good couple of seconds of the show anyway, literally, thing, Yeah.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: That made me smile. Yeah, it's hard, I'm trying. Like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the thing for me is that you don't get change
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: if you don't point things out and you don't ask
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: for better, and and quite frankly, this has to be better.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: There's just there is no better. There are no other words,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like the head. The demand has to be there that
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: this is not what the broadcast partner is putting out
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and what the NCAA sanctioning as okay, as a selection
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: show for the for their student athletes. It's just like
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: it's not okay.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: You've pointed out many times on this show that the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: report a couple of years ago pointed out all sorts
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: of discrepancies between the men's tournament tournament and the women's tournament,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: and you know, so pointing those things out is fair.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Let's you know, just get that right out. That's you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: where we need to start the conversation with is like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: let's understand where things are are different here. I don't know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I've I've now that I bring that up, though I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: can say I've I've had some difficulties with the Men's
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Selection Show over the years too, with a lot of
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the same thing. So uh, it really is a function of,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you know, let's let's have more attention on the sport
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: throughout the season and maybe these these things don't come
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: up at the end.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think to be clear, like this, pronunciations happened,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: typos happen, Like.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: We all to get a pronunciation guy, absolutely right, Yeah.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I mean I was just gonna say that you you.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Know you all the time. Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: But it also was a mistake after mistake after mistake
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: after mistake, and things like Brad Frost should not need
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: a pronunciation guide, Casey O'Brien being called Cassie over and
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: over again. Like I said, Kristen Sims, things like saying
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Joscelyn Amos for Ohio State was a net I mean,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: just very straightforward things that, like any one of them
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: would have been frustrating to me. Because I do have
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: like a high standard for of this, like and it
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: was what maybe twenty minutes of actual camera time, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: it is the only focus that these women get in
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: this kind of situation, and so I like, I think,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I fully admit that I want it to be a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: high standard. I think that's absolutely fair, and I think
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: it's well within our right to demand it. But if
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: any of these things happened on their own, I would
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: probably be upset about it, but everybody else probably would
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: have overlooked it. It was the it was from start
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: to finish that it was a problem from all them,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: everything just over and over and over again. And so
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, I'm pointing it out because it
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: was so bad and so many different things, and change
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: happens when we hold people accountable, and like things that
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: we've brought up on this show that I've brought up
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: on social media, like those things have changed because we
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: talk about them and because we bring them up, And
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: so I just think it's really important that we have
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: these public conversations and say, like that wasn't good enough.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Aside from from my feelings on any of those things,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: like the student athletes deserved more respect than that show
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: gave them like point blank period. The rest of what
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I said doesn't matter. The student athletes deserved more respect
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: than having their names was pronounced and having pronouncements made
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: about wrong you know, wrong positions, wrong national champions, like
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: just pure basic facts and needs to be better.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's turn the page on that. It's over.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Let's move on to some things that are we are
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: going to be highlights over the next couple of weeks.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: We've got the Patty Casmier Award top ten being narrowed down. Well,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the voting has already happened this week. The top three
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: are coming out maybe by the time you're listening to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: this on Tuesday, Wednesday. I'm not quite sure if they're
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: releasing that Tuesday or Wednesday this week.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday evening, but sure.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: So that will be out there, and then that ward
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: is going to be presented in Minneapolis on the Saturday
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: between the Frozen four semifinals and the final.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: And we also have the it'll be free and open
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to the public on campus.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Center. I believe is what I call it the.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Agro Craig, which is a very like specific reference, but
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: it looks like it looks like a Rocky Mountain thing,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: but that will be free and open to the public.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: They are doing they were going to have several former winners,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Taylor Heisei, Asian Malesco, a few others names are Chrissy
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Weddell on site doing autographs afterwards, so kind of a
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: who's who, which is pretty on. Kendall kend' coin Schofield
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: will be there, so that's pretty cool hearing the Twin Cities.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I would plan on that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, and we also have an announcement of the National
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Goaltender of the Year Award at some point that we
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: can believe. I don't know if it's part of the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: same timing as that, but it's I believe it's happening
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: at some point through the weekend.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Possibly that one I actually vote for. And I don't know. Sorry,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I was not on the Patty Cannedy this year.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I don't have a date on Coolie of the Year.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I apologize. That is not what I'm I'm positive on.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, uh, we've got well the seven games
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: coming up this week count. I should have known that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but yes, seven games
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: coming up this week. We are going to look forward
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: to them when we come back on the podcast, Stay
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: with us, Welcome back to the podcast. Todd Maluski and
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Nicole Hosey wrapping things up this week with a look
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: at what is coming up in the NCAA tournament first
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: round and quarterfinals or regional semifinals regional finals if you
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: prefer to look at it that way. We're gonna go
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: regional by a regional looking at the games and what
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: potentially could happen in the quarterfinals. We only know one
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: of the actual quarterfinal matchups so far. Let's start in
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the at the top of the bracket with the Madison
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Regional that being hosted by Wisconsin, the first round game
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: being Clarkson against Boston University. Boston University, as we've mentioned before,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: has won three straight overtime games in the Hockey East
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: tournaments to get here. They that was the only way
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: they were getting in is winning the championship. Clarkson got
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: in as an at large after losing in three overtimes
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of the AC semifinals last week. What are your thoughts
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: on the Golden Knights and the Terriers.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Markson's such an interesting team because they're leading scorers, like
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: two of their three leading scorers are their top defensive
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: line like Haley Win is their top scorer, and Nicole
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Gostling I think is tied for their their third score. Yeah,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: it's just a I'm not sure that you has faced
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: a team like them. I don't know. It will be
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: very interesting to see how they handle sort of that
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: pressure from the top. It's not like Clarkson is just
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: hitting slappers from the blue line and hoping like those
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: two are will get down and get into the play
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: and things like that. But yeah, I think both teams
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: scoring can sometimes be at a premium, and so I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: think just getting on the boarding and sort of breaking
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the goosegg is going to be really important in that game,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and and sort of getting that confidence and getting the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: ball rolling. Obviously it's a it's a trip for both
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of them, and like said, Clerkson had that nice long game.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: So I think just sort of prep and recovery and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, all the not very exciting
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: but off ice stuff I think could play a pretty
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: decent role in whether these two teams are prepared for
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: that game. On Thursday.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: One of the things that came to mind for me
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: this week was that Clarkson was heading to Madison for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a horror final game in twenty twenty and got there
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: just to see that the tournament had been canceled. And
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: so here we are five years later and Clarkson's heading
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: back to Madison. Hopefully their their trip is a little
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: easier and a little more, a little more rewarding this time.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Anyway, then, yes, I remember correctly, like they weren't all
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: even on the same flight. Some people went through Canada.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That was, oh yeah, a whole mess for them, yes
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So hopefully for their their sake that it goes
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: a little with the time around.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yes for all of us too, really, because.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, that part two.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: But the winner gets Wisconsin on Saturday afternoon. I should
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: say that the the Clarkson BU game is seven o'clock
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Central time. Saturday's game against Wisconsin for the winner is
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: at two o'clock Central time. Wisconsin hasn't allowed a goal
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: at Labon Arena in the NCAA tournament since twenty fifteen,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: and that was by bus. It was not Marie fully
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: pulled that. I had my head. It probably was, but
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: it was not.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Now she actually did not have a superstellar game. I
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: remember thinking at the time like I was very excited
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: to watch her play and obviously like it was an
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: anomaly and I'm certainly not picking on her, but at
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: the time I remember being like, oh, sure, sort of
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: jokingly like, oh, what's all the fuss about?
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: The Badgers have at times the season looked unstoppable. I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: don't know that I would necessarily use that word right now.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: They have been a team that's had to do the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: work to get these last few wins, which you would
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: hope in the playoffs, you know it should be that way.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But the scoring has has slowed a little bit. Theyre's
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: still getting goals from really talented players, and you know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: getting a winning goal from Sarah Wazn'tavitch last Saturday, a
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: third liner who got bumped up to play with the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: top line for offensive zone face off in the last
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds of the game.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: That's the blood defenders in the semi final. Yeah, I mean,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. Like one all is said and done,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: The problem for people playing against Wisconsin is that everybody
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: on that team is going to score like they don't.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be the top line, it doesn't
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: have to be the second line, it doesn't have to
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: be the forwards, and so that depth is just it's
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: that's the part that that is just difficult for teams
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to match up with and can stop a number of
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: players and still be in trouble. Yep, all right, do
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you have any do you have any gut feelings on
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: that Clarkson BU match up?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I for me, I take Clarkson as being the more
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: experienced team in the NCAA tournament. I guess I don't
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: know necessarily how many of those players have played NCAA games,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: but it's got to be a pretty good number of them,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and I I you can't count out be you just because,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: like we talked about the resilience that they've shown in
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the last few weeks. But I think Clarkson's the team
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that has you know, it's been here before more recently
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and been been through a lot a lot of things
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: to get here, So I would I would kind of
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: lean that direction. What about you?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to two markers. One is if BU
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: scores early, I think that bodes well for them. I
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: think the other is if they hold Clerkson. The longer
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: they hold Clerkson off the board, I think the better
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: off their odds are. I do think that once Clerk.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Once Clerkson scores, they can score in bunches, but it's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: about them getting that like clicking and really finding it
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: all together. So I think that a lower scoring game
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: is to be U's benefit. But yeah, I think the experience.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: But it's hard to count out with you at this point,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Like like we talked about, I didn't you know, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: wasn't quite sure how that would go against Northeastern, and
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: they handled it, and so part of me feels like
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: at this point not picking against that team because they
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: keep pulling it out of a head.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, let's move down the bracket and move
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: up in our state ninety four to Minneapolis, where there
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: is no regional semi final game goes right to the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: regional final because it is the four or five matchup
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: between Minnesota and Colgate, both teams, you know, went into
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the last day of the conference championship weekend with hopes
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: of hosting a game. Minnesota is the one that actually
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: got it because well, they also had hopes of being
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the number three seed overall, but neither one of them
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: really got what they wanted on the last day of
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the season, the conference championship season. I guess if you
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: want to look at it that way. So that sets
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: up a you know, a game between two teams that
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you know, have all week to prepare for who they're
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: going to face, Unlike you know, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Cornell,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: this these are teams that should know a little bit
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: about each other going into it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be I think a fascinating game.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Colgate is probably the most physical of the ECAC squads.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I imagine that how the game is officiated and whether
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: or not there are a lot of whistles is going
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to Unford. Like I wish that wasn't the case. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have to say that, but I just think that
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: whether the officials let them play or they're calling it
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: really tight will really have him impact on this game,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: because I think both of these teams are are gonna
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: really use their physicality and really sort of be strong
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: on the boards and do all that sort of stuff.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: And so if there's a lot of whistles, we could
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: be looking at one heck of a special team's showdown.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: It's just interesting, like these teams haven't really played each
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: other much over the years. Colgate did play U n
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: D this year and split with U split a series
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: with them in terms of like kind of a common
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: opponent Colgate Kogate can get skating downhill right like they can.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: They're a bit like the Badges in that way that
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: like when it clicks, like things are really clicking. Kulti
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: cult and Kova has been outstanding at times. This year
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: has been a little quiet since she was with Chechia
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: at the Women's Zero Hockey Tour since coming back hasn't
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: been quite at the same pace. But yeah, Kolgiate's got
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: some depth, They've got goaltending. But as we talked about
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: earlier with with Minnesota, they you know, they have sort
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: of all the confidence after taking Wisconsin to the final
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: twenty four point five seconds of that that championship game.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: To me, this is one of two games that I'm
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: sort of like really up circled and excited to watch.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I think it's just a sort of too two different
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: both style, there's similar there are similarities to the way
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: these two teams play, but also differences and and sort
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: of tops of two different conferences, and so I'm I'm
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: excited just to see how they match up and sort
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: of what what works for each one and what doesn't.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know that Minnesota is home for as
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: long as they're alive in the tournament. Now they get
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: this game and then the Frozen four is right there
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: back at Arena the next week, So I know that's.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: That's a huge motivating actually a big thing.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: You know, just hearing them after a couple of games
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: last weekend, you could you can tell that that is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: something that is driving them. But Colcate has has been
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a team that has you know, been around, and you
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: know it hasn't shied away from a lot this season.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't, I mean you can't really you know. Yeah,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: they've had their ups and downs, like everyone in ECAC
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: hockey did, you know, at at some point, I just
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I like what they have. And you mentioned Calton Culton
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: covid that that's a key piece for them if she
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: can pop in a couple of goals. But on the
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: other side, you've got Abby Murphy who has been popping
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: in a couple of goals and took over the national
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: lead and scoring with thirty and thirty one last weekend.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that, I mean, the four and five game
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is typically probably should be one of the better ones,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and it kind of looks like we've got that this year,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and that was if I'm remembering it right, wasn't that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: last season? Then that game go to two or three overtimes?
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Was that Clarkston in Minnesota last year? Was the four five?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: That would make sense right because Clarkston then played Ohio State.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, that went into several of our times. Well, yeah,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: I think too, this is just like a pride thing.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Like Minnesota went through that stretch where they were in
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: every frozen four for like what six year or something
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: like that, and it's it's been a little spottier since
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: then twenty seven, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty three, like they
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: haven't had the sort of sustained prominence and so to
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: get back to a frozen four on home ice, I
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: think is just sort of like been the big blinking
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: light that they've been they've been walking towards this entire season.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Ithaca, New York, where Cornell is
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the host team, the number three overall seed. First round
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: game there is Minnesota luth against Sacred Heart, that being
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: seven o'clock Eastern on Thursday, I should say, the Minnesota
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Colgate game two pm Central on Saturday. So back to
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Ithca now, Duluth and Sacred Heart playing seven o'clock eastern
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Thursday night, Winter getting Cornell at four eastern on Saturday.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: This is the six to eleven matchup, and the Luth
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: was pretty much locked in the six for most of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: last weekend. Sacred Heart had to win on the road
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to get in, and you know, the new hot teams
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: are pretty far down in terms of the NPI, So
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think there are a lot of people that
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: are expecting a lot out of the Pioneers this weekend. Fair.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad saying it, right, but yeah, I mean,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's a tough game no matter the situation.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And then you add in the really tough defense and
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: the outstanding goaltending that U m D has, and I
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be a tough, tough situation for them.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I think the again, this is one of those ones
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: where I think if Sacred Heart can the longer they
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: can keep U. M D off the board, the better
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: off they are going to be. Um D is not
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: a massively high scoring team. They tend to, you know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: do that defense first and really like shut things down
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: on that end. But I also imagine that they're going
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: to be trying to use some speed, some physicality, send
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Gramer as often as you can to the front
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: of the net, and I expect that that will probably
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: be a pretty successful situation for them. As you said,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: they might not be thrilled about going to Upstate New York,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: but I actually think they're quite happy to be making
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: that trip instead of, you know, going to end their
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: season in Minneapolis, uh, which is what has been happening
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: the past couple of years for you empty. So yes,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: it would be closer, but I think they're happy for
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: a change of venue and an opportunity to advance.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things that you know, maybe we
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: don't talk about enough in this week is that you
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: don't only have like a few hours to arrange travel
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: once you learn where you're going on Sunday morning, because
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you know, for these teams that are playing Thursday, they
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: are they might be leaving Tuesday, they certainly are leaving Tuesday.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: In fact.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why when like the so the Friday STEMI
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: final games, the day games did suck and we're annoying
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: like it's because those tournaments now have decided that they're
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: going to be done by Saturday and have their teams
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: back home so that when they find out on Sunday,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: they can immediately be working towards leaving for wherever they
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: need to go. It's just like a natural progression of that. So, uh,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: that's fair because you know, flying from Deluth to Ithaca
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: a easy friends.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, that is easy to do the ethical side, but yeah.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Just all around it. You know, it's tough for sort
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: of everybody. I mean it's it's it's slightly closer, but
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Sacred Heart to Ithica any easy flight either. Yeah, it's
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: you know, especially for some of the schools that are
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: in smaller towns and things. So yeah, on the one hand,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: we were complaining about all that stuff, but I do
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: get it because you said this this happens fast.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yes it does. That regional final Cornell against to be determined,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: but if if it is Duluth, You've got to me,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: what looks like a really compelling goalie matchup in that one?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Absolutely Atli's Bergmann on the Cornell side, Gascon on the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: du side, two of the.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Three finalists for Goalie of the Year.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, goalies can't win the game by themselves. We
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: know that somebody's got to score. Someone's got to you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: defenses have to play in front of them. But you
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: get to this point of the year and you have
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: a goalie who's playing really well, you can do a
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: lot of damage.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Of the six players on the ice, they're the ones
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: that can have the biggest impact individually.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Right, They're the ones that are on the ice all
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the time. So yeah, that's absolutely the case.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say to you because you mentioned Clerkston
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: like court, you were saying it had been so long
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: for Cornell to win that title. Cornell was probably the
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: number one I think we were waiting they were going
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: to be the number one team for the canceled tournament, right,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty tournament.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: That sounds right.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they weren't number one, they were top three.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: So this has been a great you sort of return
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: to the top and getting to host and all the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff that they really missed out on in
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: that season. So excited for them for that. But yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Cornell um D is going to be really interesting. I
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: think Cornell is a bit more offensive. I think that
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: you don't see teams sort of clogging up and creating
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the slog the way that you MD can. That's how
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: we've seen them slow down Ohio State, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Playing those three teams, you know, those six games over
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the course of the season plus the postseason definitely prepares
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: you to play any team that can can move fast
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and be quick with the puck. And so how Cornell
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I think adjusts to that and prepares for that and
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: if they can do it without getting frustrated, because playing
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a team that can really stimy you and stifle you
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: the way that you MD can can just really frustrate players.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And if they don't handle that, well, that's it's not
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: going to go. The outcome is not going to be there.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Right. You are correct, by the way, Cornell was the
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: number one seed in twenty twenty. So there you have it.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. You remember a lot more of the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: details than I do, but I'm excited I got that
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: one right. Yeah, you know, Cornell's at home. We saw
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: what they could do last weekend. I think they still
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: have the the edge there, but certainly a fascinating game.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The final region what we're going to talk about
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: is in Columbus, Ohio. Ohio State the hosts there as
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the number two overall seed, Penn State and Saint Lawrence
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: get a first round game seven o'clock Thursday night. The
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: winner plays Ohio State at six o'clock Saturday night. So
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: that one will be the last. Now that I said,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: that's some one of the other games is going to
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: go three overtimes, and they're four overtimes and end after
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Ohio State's game, But that one is the last starting
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: regional final. That's six Eastern six eastern, correct, So Penn
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: State Saint Lawrence, as we mentioned, is a rematch of
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: last season in Madison, where Saint Lawrence got a one
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: nothing overtime victory and as you mentioned before, a really
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: good game one that kind of there. I remember there
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: just being a lot of times people were just going
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: ooh and odd because it like felt there are lots
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: of chances, right, something was coming soon, and it just
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: never got into the net until overtime.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of up and down action. One thing
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that I think will be interesting because I do think
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: sort of the positions that the teams are flipped in
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: that last year. I thought Saint Lawrence had, you know,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: a few older players a bit more experience that sort
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: of thing, and that was still sort of a new
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: situation where I think that was the first year where
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Penn State went in I think really feeling and like
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: really having the talent to really for that to really
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: be a full like we could win this game head
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: to head. And so now this year, Penn State returns
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: most of those players, testaganiky as a year older. They're
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: you know, they're just a more experienced team. They didn't
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: need the auto bid to get into the tournament, right, Like,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: they're just sort of a more complete team. They had
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: one conference loss, and I think Saint Lawrence while they
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: still have you know, quite a few sort of returning players,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: and I think Abbie Hustler still is sort of the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: game changer for them. I do think sort of the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: the experience and the talent and the confidence and the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: momentum going in is on Penn side, Penn State side
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: this time.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: So looking at Penn State's NCAA tournament history, twenty twenty three,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: lost to Quinnipiac in the first round in three overtimes,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: three to two, and then last season, don't remember that, No,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: last season lost to Saint Lawrence, won nothing in overtime,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: So they like been on the verge. Yeah, right, they
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: they are right there, and uh, you feel like it's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: it's a matter of time before they get a breakthrough here,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and that maybe that's this Thursday night, was.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: That the year was that Quinnepiac at Ohio State where
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: they played like nineteen over times into two games.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Obviously, yes, that one was, Yeah, Quinnipec won three two
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: in overtime. And then okay, yeah second round.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I just I think, you know, all, I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: think we talked about this a little bit last week,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: but sort of all the work, this is the culmination
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: of what Penn State has been trying to do for
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: several seasons. They played these tougher opponents. They you know,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: were scheduling the non conference games. Like I said, they
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: have the one conference loss. It's it really did sort
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: of all come together for them, and they didn't have
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: to win their tournament to get in. And so I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: definitely think A because we watched these two teams play
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: a really close, close game last year, and B because
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: of what they've done this year. I think I think
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Penn State has the edge over Saint Lawrence, but I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: certainly think it's going to be it's a really compelling
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: first round match, and I generally don't love getting a repeat.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: But in this case, since it was such a close
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: game and sort of all these little bits we're talking about,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a fascinating fun one to watch.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: The winner gets an angry Ohio State to the regional final,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and angry is probably a kind way of putting it. Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Last season, Ohio State, I believe it was down sixth
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: to one to Wisconsin at some point in WHA championship
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: game and pulled it back to six to three for
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the final. This year, in the semifinals, they were up
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: to nothing and then gave up six straight goals to Minnesota.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened last year. We mentioned this earlier.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: They came back and in their first game of the
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament beat Minnesota Duluth nine to nothing and a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Duluth team that had to win one nothing in double
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: overtime in the first round against Yukon. So you're gonna
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: get a team that's just played a couple of days
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: ago facing the Ohio State team that is going to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: be ready to play. I believe with everything, all evidence
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: that I've seen, and that's basically what we saw in
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: the postgame press conference after Friday's semifinal in Duluth. What
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I think I'm probably telling you where I'm leaning on
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: that one, But where are you thinking about whoever ends
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: up winning that Penn State Saint Lawrence game going into
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: play Ohouse State at the OSU Ice Ring.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I was also thinking, Yeah, that is not a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: particularly hospitable place to play, not just because it's small
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: and loud and their fans are have gotten quite fervent,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: but one of those teams, I'm guessing Saint Lawrenceree because
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: they're the lower seed, will not have a locker room
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: in the building. They will have to walk quite a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: ways at every intermission and before the game, pretty much
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: across a whole basketball arena in order to get to
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: the there.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, through the crowd, through the lobby, through the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: concession stand under.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a whole other building. Like the last time
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to remember the pictures of Quinnipiac, Like they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: put a carpet across the basketball court, so you have
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: to walk across the whole basketball building to the other side.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: It's St. John Arena that's right next door. The former
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: OSU basketball arena is right some locker rooms.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, you know I'm pointing it out because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: it's not an ideal situation. But also, just like we've
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: talked about, you know, tired teams travel all of this
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff, and then you add and you don't
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: even really get to relax during intermission because you've got
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: travel to and from, Like all of those things are
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: going to play into making it difficult for whoever that
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: team is. The other visiting team will be downstairs as
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: you guys, arena and also a not very hospitable room.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: So it's it's just not a great comfortable experience. And
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: I know Ohio State themselves would love a better arena,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: but they've also embraced this wonky place that is theirs
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and they've made they've got quite a homelice advantage there.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: And that's outside of all the other stuff that you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: said about sort of angry Ohio State. So yeah, it's, uh,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: it does not bode well. That being said, Ohio State
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: proved themselves pretty fallible last weekend, and uh, you know,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: you hope that and they hope that they respond to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: how that went and become a little angry. But again,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: it's a young team and I think that's a huge difference.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Like the several fifth year transfer old students that were
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: on the team last year, Like they several of them
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: had Olympic and US national team experience, and that that
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: allows you the versatility and the mental ability to bounce
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: back and really turn and flip that and and I'm
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: not sure I'm not saying the younger kids don't have that,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: but like I'm less assured that the freshman and sophomores
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: that have really been driving this team are in a
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: position to to have learned how to do that and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: bounce back the same way. So I don't I definitely
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: agree with you. I think the likelihood is Ohio State
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: bounces back here and it's not pretty for whoever they
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: have to whoever has to face them. But there's definitely
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: a non zero chance that it does not go that way,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: and that they're you know, they're they're vulnerable.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I think you saw that youth a little bit about,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: you know, sometime during the second period of that semi
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: final game against Minnesota on Friday, where you know, okay,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: they had a good start, it you know, backfired on
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of penalties that you know, maybe they don't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: normal take, end up with the puck in the back
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: of the net. It was too too. But then Minnesota
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: got rolling in the second period, and I think some
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: of that youth showed through for Ohouse state of you know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: didn't have a way of stopping it and and didn't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: cut it off and say okay, no more. Now it's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: it's our game again.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Right, And clearly they have the skill to do that,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: like that was their Their loss in that semifinal was
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: a mental breakdown, not not a skill one. Right, And
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: so yeah, just like you said, lots of dumb penalties,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: just just several things that like mistakes you can't afford
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: to make at this time of year. They you know,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: were lucky that they put themselves in a position that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter whether or not they won that game.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: That is, they sort of got the freebie there, right,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Like that's here one get out of jail free card.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: You can't do it again. And so and it's a again,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: it's a short turn around. I mean, obviously they don't
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: at least have to play that Thursday game, but they
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: they've got a lot of work to do to get
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: their heads right and be prepared for this game. And
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: so I believe that if anybody can do it, it's Nadine.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: I believe that this is something that like, this is
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: what she does. I believe they're gonna try their darkness.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: But I also think you know, when the puck goes
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: down and you've got doubts in your head and you're
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: not sure, like that's yeah. I think there's a lot
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: more questions on this game than I would have had
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: before that semifinal game on Friday, right, I would have
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: had a very different take on how this is gonna go.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no more getting out of jail free cards for anyone.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: That's the big thing for me this week is that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you could have had the best season you've
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: ever had. You could be going along great and you
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: have maybe two bad periods or and poof, you're packing
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: it up for the season.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: So we've seen some very good number one, number two teams,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: seated teams you know, have great seasons and and falter
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: at this point and nobody's talking about how how good
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: they were. So I don't think, you know, Wisconsin can't
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: get cocky, Ohio State has to recover. Like there's just
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I think the top teams are more vulnerable than maybe
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: we like would have initially thought. A few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all of these games until the Championship game are
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  Speaker 1: scheduled to be on ESPN. Plus, let's keep our fingers
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  Speaker 1: crossed that all of that works. And there is a
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  Speaker 1: slight staggering of the the games on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, I was excited it was a little better. Todd,
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  Speaker 2: you know, said it's it's not that good, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, we're gone, gone. I'm deciding to give
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  Speaker 2: credit where you know where it's due. It's it's they're
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  Speaker 2: not all at the same exact time, and so maybe
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  Speaker 2: you know, if I'm going to complain about the stuff
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  Speaker 2: I don't like, I'm definitely gonna give the props for it.
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  Speaker 2: It's better than it was not having four two pm
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  Speaker 2: puck drops. So are are what Todd said in off
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  Speaker 2: off Aaron. One thing I'd like to see is that
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  Speaker 2: they stagger fifteen twenty thirty minutes so that when there
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: is the same pup drop at least like the Internet,
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  Speaker 2: missions don't also overlap. One of the worst things to happen,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: and this is when every game is at in your
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: mission at the same time. So, uh, that's fine if
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: it all needs to be at a certain time in
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: the afternoon. But maybe maybe we can look at you
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: like a two thirty instead of a two o'clock. A
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: slight change would make a huge difference in terms of
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: being able to switch between games and see see more action.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Right, very well could.
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  Speaker 2: Putting that little bug out there?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, anything else you want to mention before
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  Speaker 1: we get into uh, you know, just getting these games
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  Speaker 1: rolling on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think they're you know, it's there are people
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: that are will say it's you know, the same teenes
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: and things like that, but I definitely think not just
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: saying it because because we're you know, trying to make
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: a show here.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that these games are a lot more
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: up in the air and a lot more unsure than
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: maybe people think that they are. I think I would
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: not be super surprised by any upsets here, So uh
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: that makes that makes me excited. I think it's going
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: to be a lot of great hockey and people should
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: make time to tune in.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, by the time we talk to you
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: next week, we will be down to the Frozen four
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: and will be talking about getting going in Minneapolis. So
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: let's hope for some good hockey this weekend. We hope
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: you're able to you know, maybe attend the game or
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: for sure watch them on ESPN Plus. So if you
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: want to get in touch with us, we will gladly
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: take your emails and social media messages. You can find
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: out that information on the show notes here wherever you
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: get this podcast, and so we appreciate your listening and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: two weeks to go weeks ago, all right, thanks to Cole.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. All right. For to Cole,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Todd. Thanks for listening to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Goodbye,