Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #166 Living Vertically (2 - Embracing God's Vertical Love in a Horizontal World)
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- 0:01One of the greatest gifts God has given us as a follower of Christ,
- 0:06as one that has received His love, is that now we can come in a relationship
- 0:12with God in everyday ways,
- 0:14vertically engage our God,
- 0:16and listen, and be loved.
- 0:20Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:25The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
- 0:36Welcome once again to the One Crap Podcast. I'm Bill Eliff, and my dear friend
- 0:41Kyle Reno is with me today.
- 0:44And we are so thrilled that we're coming into your car, or your house,
- 0:49or your run, or at the gym.
- 0:52It sounds a little creepy when you say it that way. Yeah, it's creepy.
- 0:57You know, Kyle, I had, there's something about being around great men that changes us.
- 1:07And I know you and I have talked about this before and all of us have our heroes.
- 1:13I had a couple of weeks, really, it was about a 10 day span a few weeks ago.
- 1:19And uh and in
- 1:22in in those days i was around i was
- 1:25around several wonderful great men but
- 1:28three in particular one was i
- 1:32i just because of a a group of guys i was with uh we we sat in the office with
- 1:40jim cimbala the great pastor of the brooklyn tabernacle church and he's 82 years
- 1:45old and he He acts like he's about 50.
- 1:50And I was just blown away.
- 1:53We sat with him for several hours and he was sitting up on the edge of his chair,
- 1:59just so excited about this new outreach they were going to have to try to reach
- 2:05a Hispanic portion and the immigrants that were coming into New York.
- 2:11And then in the same breath, he's talking about this homeless guy across the
- 2:15street that he's befriended and led to Christ. And I just thought,
- 2:18man, the vigor, the vision of this guy at 82.
- 2:23And then a little later, we had lunch in that same meeting and spent several
- 2:31hours with Crawford Loritz.
- 2:33And Crawford is about my age, I think, his early 70s, maybe even younger,
- 2:39which is a frightening thought.
- 2:40And uh but he he uh
- 2:43he's just i just he was just talking and a bunch of us were just asking questions
- 2:49the wisdom that was coming out of him was just unbelievable and then and then
- 2:55a week later i i went to the to the great bellevue baptist church in memphis and had the privilege
- 3:03of speaking over there with Steve Gaines.
- 3:05And Steve right now has cancer.
- 3:10He's right in the middle of chemotherapy. He's got another disease that affects
- 3:15his muscles and makes him so tired.
- 3:18And we sat at dinner and Kyle, you know, Steve really well, he really discipled you.
- 3:26And And he is leaning up against the wall to try to keep his head up.
- 3:33And we are laughing so hard. Yes, Gary.
- 3:38And he is so happy, so joyful.
- 3:43Wow. So full of God.
- 3:45The whole point of me telling you this, that was a good 10 days. Yeah.
- 3:51But being in the presence of those three men affected me.
- 3:56I'll never be the same. I mean, I've been around them before,
- 4:00but there's something about all three of them together.
- 4:04If we had time, I could just tell you the particular things I saw in them and
- 4:10how it changed me and thought, man, I want to be like that.
- 4:14I want to be like that. And the beautiful thing that we're going to see today,
- 4:18Kyle, is we can be in the presence of God all the time and be around God and look at God.
- 4:29And that's the point of this little series that we're doing on looking up and
- 4:34getting our vision in that direction. And boy, we need it, don't we, Kyle?
- 4:38Yeah, man. Well, that's the perfect way to set this up because the truth is
- 4:42about all three of those men.
- 4:45Is not a microwave, is that they've learned to live vertically over decades of life.
- 4:51And God's life has just permeated their lives.
- 4:55You just get around them and you think about Him. You think about the Lord and you see.
- 5:01And so last week we kickstarted and said, hey, what would it look like for us
- 5:05to be a people that have better posture?
- 5:08People that learn how to position ourselves in the presence of God,
- 5:12not living on the horizontal. And just to declare again, listen,
- 5:15this world is demanding your attention.
- 5:19And our nation right now is fighting for your mind, fighting for your heart.
- 5:26And so it's going to take some spiritual courage to fight for your eyes,
- 5:32to fight for your sight line.
- 5:34And so I just last week we looked at real quick.
- 5:38Our God is the creator. So look up. Look up, people of God.
- 5:42Today, when you walk into those times with the Lord, when you get in the car
- 5:46and you're riding down the road and remember that our God has created everything
- 5:50we've seen and all the unseen.
- 5:52And that same God is in control and that he is watching over.
- 5:58And while the nations plot, they plot in vain because our God is sovereign control.
- 6:04Control and that should bring great comfort to us in
- 6:07every aspect of our life and then the last point last week
- 6:10was then our god is holy and we should rightly tremble
- 6:15in his presence like there's something about getting under the right weight
- 6:19of god and feeling in his transcendence that he is altogether other and and
- 6:25it's married to this i'm gonna give you just a couple truths to help you and
- 6:29I learn how to live vertically.
- 6:31And that same God in his word, when he gives a one-word definition of himself, our God is love, is love.
- 6:42I just got captured by this thought.
- 6:45When God wanted to give a one-word definition of himself, he said love.
- 6:51You listen to what it says in 1 John 4, 8, anyone who does not love does not
- 6:57know God because God is love.
- 7:01Bill, I've heard you say this in innumerable times, A.W.
- 7:07Tozer's quote, what comes into our minds when we think about God is the most
- 7:12important thing about us.
- 7:15And so a lot of us lose a vertical mindset in our approach to God because we
- 7:22don't think about a God that is love.
- 7:26Maybe we've had a painful past and authority figure in our life that sort of skewed our view of God.
- 7:32Maybe it was a bad dad or a father wound, or maybe it's some religious person
- 7:37leadership in your life that sort of tainted the way that you see God.
- 7:42Maybe you see him as a harsh person,
- 7:44Football coach is screaming at you all the time or a dictator.
- 7:48Well, that's not the God of the Bible.
- 7:51Look up. The God of the Bible is love.
- 7:55Zephaniah 317 says, the Lord your God is in your midst. I love that thought.
- 7:59He's here. The Lord your God is in your midst. He's close.
- 8:03A mighty one who will save. If you're in the family of God, that's because our God is a savior.
- 8:09He will rejoice over you with gladness.
- 8:13Man, when the Lord sees you coming, he rejoices over you with gladness.
- 8:19Like when you come to get into a posture and a position before God,
- 8:24he goes, that's my boy. That's my girl. Look at him coming. I rejoice.
- 8:27I love this about him. I love this about her. And it says he will quiet you by his love.
- 8:34He will exult over you with loud singing.
- 8:38Singing bill raised a bunch of babies and i should say holly did for him katie
- 8:43is still raising kiddos for us between us we got a tribes of of children i love
- 8:49what it says he'll quiet you by his love it makes me think of somebody holding
- 8:53a little baby that's crying and it's just going.
- 8:56Like the lord loves to hold his kids when we live vertically and just say it's gonna be okay,
- 9:02to just quiet you with his love, he will exult over you with singing.
- 9:08Like you know that God, if you want to live vertically, that God just doesn't
- 9:13see that God sings over you.
- 9:17That he's singing a song over you. I remember years ago there was a song,
- 9:22you've never heard of it, I'm
- 9:23sure, because it wasn't necessarily for the world, it was for one person.
- 9:29But it it got recorded and
- 9:32it just moved me greatly it's
- 9:35called the promise by mercy me and the song was written as they were setting
- 9:40up on the stage and and the stage hands were getting everything's pre-concert
- 9:48and he saw this guy that just looked broke down and,
- 9:53wounded and angry and and he was just one of the guys that was working this
- 9:57event and all of a sudden out of his heart came a song that he felt like God
- 10:02was wanting to just sing over him.
- 10:04So for his sound check, he just started singing over this guy, I love you.
- 10:09This is Lord, I will never leave you nor forsake you because I love you.
- 10:15And he watched the demeanor of that guy change till that guy was just looking
- 10:20at him and then ended with a conversation about God's great love for this guy.
- 10:26All that to say, God's singing over you today.
- 10:30Look up. He's singing over you. You're not coming to a dad that's scolding or screaming.
- 10:36You're coming to a dad that is singing, that is singing over you.
- 10:42He doesn't just say it. He shows it. Romans 5, 8 says, but God shows his love
- 10:47for us and that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
- 10:51God doesn't just say it or sing it. He displayed it. He showed it and that his
- 10:56son came for us. I love Tim Keller's quote.
- 10:59You are more sinful than you could ever dare imagine.
- 11:04Our God is holy. When you get in His presence, we realize, oh,
- 11:07wow, we are sinful, man. That's not the end of the quote, though.
- 11:11We're more sinful than we dare imagine, and you are more loved and accepted
- 11:18than you ever dare hope at the same time, that you're more sinful than you imagine,
- 11:25and yet at the same time, you're more accepted and loved than you ever dare
- 11:30hope. hope, simultaneous truth.
- 11:32Our God is holy, and our God is love.
- 11:36Lends itself to this as you look up to remember, and our God, he came for us.
- 11:42He came for us. That the gospel message is this, is not that we made our way
- 11:48up the mountain to God, not that we figured out some way to understand or save
- 11:53ourselves, but that our God came for us.
- 11:57And this is the love of God.
- 12:001 John 4, 9, 10. God was made manifest among us. Talk about presence.
- 12:06It was displayed, made manifest amongst us that God sent his only son into the
- 12:12world so that we might live through him.
- 12:14In this is love, Not that we love God, but that he loved us and sent his son
- 12:22to be a propitiation for our sins.
- 12:24One of the greatest gifts God
- 12:26has given us as a follower of Christ is one that has received his love.
- 12:31Is that now we can come in a relationship with God in everyday ways.
- 12:37Vertically engage our God and listen and be loved. Loved.
- 12:43Be loved by God. Here's the thing that no human has ever done, and you won't either.
- 12:49I won't. You'll never love God first.
- 12:53Never. He is displayed in that he came after us when we couldn't come for him,
- 12:59so the best that we can do is respond, and living vertically is a right response to God's work for us.
- 13:08I'm going to give you two more things real quick. Our God also cares about us.
- 13:13He not only saves us, but he actually engages in a relationship where he cares for us.
- 13:18If you want to live vertically, one of the greatest things you and I can learn
- 13:20to do as we walk with God and learn to commune is to realize that God actually cares about our life.
- 13:27I remember the first time I heard a guy say to me, a mentor in my life,
- 13:32he goes, God not only loves you, he likes you.
- 13:38And he not only cared enough to save you, he cared enough to stay with you.
- 13:45Like that God wants to be intimately involved in our lives.
- 13:50Listen to what 1 Peter 5, 7 says, casting all your anxieties on him because he cares for you.
- 13:57One of the awesome privileges of being a people that live vertically is that
- 14:01you get to carry into God's presence the things that you need to cast.
- 14:08And if you'll cast it on him, that's freedom for you. I love Luke 12, 32.
- 14:13Fear not, little flock, for it is your father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
- 14:20So look up today and know that, you know what? This God that is love,
- 14:23this God that came for us is actually a God that cares for us. He cares for you today.
- 14:29Somebody needs to hear this. Some person on this podcast needs to hear this today.
- 14:33God cares about what you're carrying.
- 14:36He cares. you got a decision to make
- 14:39you can either keep carrying it or you can cast
- 14:42it you can cast it hear me
- 14:45because listen jesus has broad enough shoulders to carry it so don't don't carry
- 14:52it alone look up the last thing i'll tell you just to encourage you about living
- 14:57vertically and i love this you see this across the new testament specifically
- 15:02in acts bill i know we've talked about this conversation before.
- 15:05In light of a God that loves us, that came for us, that cares for us,
- 15:11and our God is coming back for us.
- 15:15He's coming back for us. One of my favorite, most mysterious passages in the
- 15:22Bible is Matthew 24, verses 30 and 31.
- 15:25It says, and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
- 15:30You say, Kyle, what does that look like? No idea. Can't wait to see it.
- 15:36No idea. I don't believe it's the bat sign in the sky, but I think it's something
- 15:41that appears in the heavens that instantly everyone's going to know.
- 15:49Everybody's going to know Jesus is the true king.
- 15:52He is the true king. It says, And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
- 15:57and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory,
- 16:03and he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
- 16:07and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other.
- 16:15That there's a moment coming, and this is why we should live vertically,
- 16:19that not only he came for us to live perfectly, die sacrificially,
- 16:24defeat death in his resurrection direction to ascend to the right hand of the Father.
- 16:29But one day, listen to me, sky's going to part.
- 16:33King's going to come. King's going to come.
- 16:36And you look at those first followers of Christ, Bill, right after the other
- 16:40side of the empowering of the Holy Spirit out to fulfill the mission of God,
- 16:44they were always eagerly awaiting the day of the Lord.
- 16:49That witness to me. We, as God's people on this planet, should not be as concerned
- 16:56about what the polls say, what's next in our nation.
- 17:01We should rightly engage be a part of
- 17:04those things as a people whose eyes are
- 17:07set on the sun that will one day come
- 17:10again for his kids if
- 17:13you if we become those kind of people you'll live more free and empowered than
- 17:17you ever dare ask or imagine so bill i know you probably fired up ready to preach
- 17:22back oh my stars i i almost broke in with the bill gaither song the king is
- 17:30coming coming Which nobody even knows,
- 17:32unless you're over like 100 years old.
- 17:36But this is so rich.
- 17:40You know, I was just thinking, Kyle, this thing of living vertically.
- 17:44And when you get there, you know, the psalmist said the nearness of God is my
- 17:51good. This is good for me.
- 17:54And when you get there, you just see things that you don't see anywhere else.
- 17:59So, I mean, the world is making you see stuff all the time.
- 18:03You're walking through this world. You're going to see that junk.
- 18:07But unless you live vertically, unless you look up and there's a way to do that, you don't see this.
- 18:16And I think particularly about these.
- 18:21Things that you are talking about, about the love of God, the care of God for us.
- 18:28And he showed that care by coming and then coming again.
- 18:33I think perhaps the greatest tool the enemy has in his arsenal is to tell us
- 18:44that God doesn't love us. Yeah.
- 18:46And he's got a lot of ammo because it looks we know that God is sovereign and he's over the world.
- 18:53And yet the world is a mess in so many ways.
- 18:57Right. And so he just all he does is he just whispers that God didn't love you.
- 19:01He didn't care about you. He's a million miles away.
- 19:04And and, you know, I think there's some things in life, you know,
- 19:08Kyle, you know, in sports that sometimes if an area is deficient.
- 19:13You got to almost overcorrect.
- 19:16Exactly. You got to work 10 times harder to get your legs.
- 19:21If your legs are weak, you got to work way harder to get those legs in shape.
- 19:26Right. And you got to overcorrect. I think we need an overcorrection.
- 19:31Wow. Of the love of God. Right. And when we get there, that settles everything.
- 19:40Sure. You know, what do you think, Kyle? I was just thinking as you were talking about.
- 19:46The things that happen to us when we don't realize that God loves us,
- 19:54you know, like insecurity.
- 19:57We get terribly insecure. We're fearful.
- 20:00Right. You know, so many areas.
- 20:04Yeah, I think you're 100 percent agree.
- 20:07If the enemy can deceive us about God's heart for us, then we won't trust what
- 20:12he says. We won't we won't trust what's to come.
- 20:16You know, but I think, I mean, you think about love, love is not just merely an emotion.
- 20:22You know, like love is a reality. You know, like it's a fact.
- 20:26It's, you know, Holly loves you.
- 20:29Not merely because she says it, because she's displayed it in faithfulness over time.
- 20:35And how, and I think one of the things about living vertically is,
- 20:39is that, is there moments that you will feel loved by God?
- 20:44100%. You know, there's moments where you're like, man, I sense the nearness
- 20:47of God, the presence of God.
- 20:49But I think as you learn to live vertically, you come to a place that you know you are loved. Right.
- 20:56Because God said it. It's done. Yeah, it's done because it's and that's a confidence
- 21:02that you walk into the world in a world that is that is trying to pump you full
- 21:08of things that say, well, this is what love is.
- 21:10You know, this is what this is, what this is, your value displays.
- 21:16You're like, no, I am. I am fully loved, though. I am completely flawed.
- 21:21I'm still fully loved. And now that the confidence that comes with that.
- 21:27There's no substitute for you know i i years ago i taught through um first corinthians
- 21:3413 on the love of god and and i have forever since then seen god's love as like this that god quality.
- 21:45That always responds in self-sacrifice the opposite
- 21:49of love is not hatred the opposite of love you see
- 21:52it in first corinthians 13 is unselfishness
- 21:56oh wow you know love right in
- 21:59the middle you know he says he takes love like a prism and he turns it in the
- 22:04light he says now love he's talking about that god called agape love it is always
- 22:10patient it's always kind some guy says well i love my wife i'm just not kind
- 22:15no you don't you don't love her because love is kind
- 22:18to the extent that you're not kind, you're not loving her and patient.
- 22:24And then it says right out of the heart of that love seeks not its own.
- 22:29You say it's on what? It's on the way. It's on time. It's on rights.
- 22:33It's, it's completely selfless. Wow. And that's what God is.
- 22:39And when you, like you say, not only when we feel that singing a wonderful worship
- 22:46song and we get all emotional about it. That's one thing.
- 22:51But then when you walk with God year after year after year, you will see that he always chooses you.
- 23:00He always gives first to you and you just relax in his love.
- 23:05I have to tell you this. I was with my oldest daughter and her family this weekend.
- 23:13And Jennifer is just a mama. I mean, she is all she's ever wanted to do. Right.
- 23:20And the Lord has taken her through some really tough things.
- 23:27She lost our 10-year-old son to cancer.
- 23:32And it's created this heart in her that was always there, but just the love of God.
- 23:37Well, they foster kids now and just one after another. And I watched her this
- 23:43weekend. We were together all weekend.
- 23:45And she's got this little foster child who's really been through some abuse and just a tough time.
- 23:55And I want to take that child, you know, and he will scream his head off.
- 24:03And then somebody else take him, you know, scream his head off.
- 24:06And he is looking for Jennifer. Jennifer, and he sees her.
- 24:12And in two seconds, the crying stops.
- 24:16A big old smile comes on his, because he just knows he's loved.
- 24:20And the reason is she's been the one in the last days that's cared for him,
- 24:26that's held him, that's sung over him, like you talked about.
- 24:31And he knows he's loved. He knows it's good right there. And that's what happens
- 24:37when that little boy is living vertically with his foster mom.
- 24:42Yeah, that's what he's looking for.
- 24:44That's what he's looking for. And that's what all of us are looking for. Hardwired.
- 24:49Hardwired. That's why we need to live vertically.
- 24:54That's right. So, Kyle, I wonder if we could take a minute as we pray. Okay.
- 25:02And I wonder if you just would pray for us,
- 25:06because I just think that this is such a deficiency that we have believed the
- 25:15horizontal lie of the enemy and the lie that's coming from the pit.
- 25:20That's right. That the Lord doesn't love us.
- 25:24Would you take us there and pray particularly
- 25:27for those who are listening yeah they that god
- 25:30would uh bring this home to them today you just pray for us and we invite everybody
- 25:36to join us as we pray yeah just even where you are even if you're riding down
- 25:41the road eyes wide open or whatever place you find yourself would you turn your heart toward him,
- 25:50Just turn your heart toward the Lord, even now.
- 25:55Lord, I ask as we get before you, and I pray specifically for our listeners today,
- 26:03that in a tangible, supernatural way, would you let each one of your children
- 26:10know how much you love them.
- 26:13That in spite of us, you loved us first.
- 26:19That, Lord, we never had to earn it, that you decided to give it,
- 26:24that it was displayed perfectly through the sacrifice of your Son,
- 26:31that you choose to love us.
- 26:35So I pray that the love of God would destroy every deception in any listener's heart today.
- 26:44I pray that your love of God would be like, I think about an IV line that sometimes has to be flushed.
- 26:52Would your love come and flush the arteries of our heart, our mind,
- 26:59of anything, any deception, any scheme, anything that we've just picked up over time,
- 27:07but I pray for any vantage point or view of God that has been contorted or deformed
- 27:16because of somebody in our lives.
- 27:19That's right. I ask in the authority of Jesus, would you lift our eyes beyond
- 27:27that which is flesh and blood to your perfect face?
- 27:33And just even in my heart now, would you let us hear you singing over us?
- 27:40Would you let the listener today that you always are when we hear it or not.
- 27:49But I ask, Lord, would you let us hear from the hallways of heaven the voice
- 27:55of the Father that is perfect in his love for us?
- 28:01And I pray that set us free. So I pray for a season, Lord, that is displayed
- 28:06love and that was known in you coming for us and that you're coming back.
- 28:12So we love you. We entrust all these things to you in Jesus name. Amen.
- 28:18Amen. So beautiful. Come on. Hey, I have a little bit of homework for our guys. I like it. Okay.
- 28:26So we got one more, at least one more podcast on this living vertically truth.
- 28:34And as we talk about the love of God, I want to encourage you to go online,
- 28:39okay, and look up a sermon by Charles Spurgeon.
- 28:46Spurgeon it's called heaven a world of
- 28:49love you can you can just get a pdf of it you can
- 28:52also get it in a little book uh you know a
- 28:55lot of places sell that but I read that
- 28:58that sermon at least once a year
- 29:01wow I I for me
- 29:04of course I love Spurgeon and you know
- 29:07the wording is a little archaic but uh
- 29:11oh my he'll take you right there
- 29:14because he walks us into heaven and
- 29:17describes what it's like to live
- 29:21in a place that is filled with the perfect love of god wow now you you just
- 29:29i'll just leave it right there i just want homework that's your homework and
- 29:35i promise you you will You will write me a letter and you'll say,
- 29:39oh, Bill, thank you for that.
- 29:42And heaven, a world of love by Charles Spurgeon.
- 29:46And then tune in next time, because next time we're going to talk about not
- 29:51just the attributes of God that we see, but we're going to talk about practically how do we look up?
- 29:59How do we live vertically 24-7?
- 30:03And I don't think you'll want to miss it. invite somebody to join you and we'll
- 30:08look forward to seeing you on our one cry podcast.
- 30:11Music.