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Patriots Unfiltered 5/28: Previewing Upcoming OTAs and Mini Camp, Proposed Restructured Offseason Schedule · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Star has an issue with Paul. I found his presentation
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  Speaker 5: Shocker.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well even Evan's footballed out.
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  Speaker 4: So just Christy Brinkley is the kind of woman like
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  Speaker 4: when she was young, you know she's gonna she's gonna age,
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  Speaker 4: Well you know, and she did.
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  Speaker 5: How did you know that? Because she could just tell.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 4: It is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and I feel
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  Speaker 4: like summer has officially started. Memorial Day weekend kicks it off,
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  Speaker 4: and uh, I know her around here.
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  Speaker 2: We had pretty decent weather this weekend. We we deserve
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  Speaker 2: it because.
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  Speaker 3: It's it does feel like a long time since the
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  Speaker 3: Memorial Day was suitable for vacation. I felt like you
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  Speaker 3: felt like, I really feel I got a summer weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't hot, but some beach time. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like summer.
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  Speaker 2: You could do whatever you wanted. Yeah, so it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was good, good weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Now we're uh officially into summer team you know again,
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  Speaker 4: just like last week, pretty much status quo, no big
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  Speaker 4: news to talk about. We'll be out at practice tomorrow,
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  Speaker 4: uh covering practice, so we'll have a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 4: from the practice fields at Jellette Stadium for you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: Mini camp is fast approaching.
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  Speaker 3: That's next week after.
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  Speaker 4: Week after next week, I am, So, we're gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to make a spreadsheet for Yeah, we were you know they.
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  Speaker 3: Call it actually it's called a calendar.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can if a lot of scratch outs on
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  Speaker 5: that calendar to.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone, if anyone's listening upstairs, Matis, I need one document
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  Speaker 4: with all the practices on that I need.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting confused.
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  Speaker 6: I love how it just put Matist to work. Mattis
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  Speaker 6: do this by google this.
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  Speaker 4: So I I yeah, it's it's great that you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're finding out about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But it changes a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It has shifted. But but I mean, really, these three weeks, it's, uh,
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of it for the offseason, and then
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  Speaker 3: we'll have a break at least for this year. Of
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  Speaker 3: course it could change.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's a report Tom Pelasaro that the union and
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  Speaker 4: the league are talking about condensing OTAs. Uh probably probably
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  Speaker 4: in exchange for the eighteen you know game schedule.
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  Speaker 2: We'll give away something.
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  Speaker 5: What did I joke around about last week about the
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  Speaker 5: Jackie Child's you know free coffee fly right, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, no, OTAs, we're just gonna make you come
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  Speaker 5: training camp earlier and you're gonna play at.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I was thinking about a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: like we don't get access to everything. So even if
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  Speaker 3: they did do this and OTAs became July, like, it's
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  Speaker 3: not like we're going to every like there'll be a
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  Speaker 3: few practices. And if you still want to take a
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  Speaker 3: vacation in early July and you're going to miss an
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  Speaker 3: OTA practice, you know, I don't. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be I would vacation for early July.
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  Speaker 5: No, Well, you like training camp is going to be
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  Speaker 5: in early July.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but they can't like start hitting pads right Like.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like they're going to start doing OTAs and
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  Speaker 3: ramp up at that time, just like.
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  Speaker 5: It is now. First four days will be out of pads. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: well you gotta be there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so you think they're going to be in pads
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  Speaker 3: by like June July eighth or starting pads. They're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be pads July all three weeks July.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe an extra day or two.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's not how I read it. I read
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  Speaker 3: it like they're going to start, We're going to start
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  Speaker 3: doing on field workouts no pads like they've been doing
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  Speaker 3: with ot as, you know, and then camp will still July,
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  Speaker 3: but it wouldn't be every day that we're going to if.
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  Speaker 5: It's called training camp. I you know this is this
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  Speaker 5: is classic, Paul. I have no idea what the classically,
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  Speaker 5: no clue, but let's argue. I think if it's called
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  Speaker 5: training camp, we're going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if it's open to the public.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, if it's that's what I'm saying. If it's called
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  Speaker 5: training camp.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see the players going to the league saying, hey,
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  Speaker 3: how about we start doing pads in early July. Like
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't that doesn't make sense, Like it will be
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  Speaker 3: an NFL p a proposal that they want to get
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  Speaker 3: in pads.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like, and this is true with everything, but
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  Speaker 6: I feel like this is very good for a select
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  Speaker 6: group of players. But I don't think every player is
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  Speaker 6: going to be unanimous about this in support of it,
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  Speaker 6: because you know, you talk about people that have families
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  Speaker 6: that have kids, like your kids are still in school
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  Speaker 6: when you have your off time, Like a big part
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  Speaker 6: of that gap is that's when kids start summer vacation
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  Speaker 6: and you can truly take like a family vacation and
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  Speaker 6: get out of town with with your entire family. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think that this is as good of a deal
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  Speaker 6: as the nfl PA thinks.
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  Speaker 2: What don't I mean, they don't have a summer. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think the league cares.
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  Speaker 5: I know they don't.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't see what what's that's why the NFLPA
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  Speaker 6: is coming to them and saying we want to do this,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I just don't necessarily see.
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  Speaker 4: You don't get it. You don't get it the nfl PA.
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  Speaker 4: This this is a bug that was put into the NFLPA.
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  Speaker 4: This is this is the owner saying, there's no need
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  Speaker 4: for you to come back in May. But if we
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  Speaker 4: give you that, then you give us the eighteen games skill.
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  Speaker 6: But my point, right, I hear what you're saying, But
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  Speaker 6: my point is is that like, why why are you
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  Speaker 6: taking that that deal? Well, especially if toduce his point,
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  Speaker 6: if they're gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Be but we're assuming that they're going to, uh make
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  Speaker 4: training camp longer. Maybe you know, the league is saying, listen,
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  Speaker 4: if you don't think you need to practice, that's a
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  Speaker 4: that's fine.
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  Speaker 5: It's it doesn't hurt out to do something.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, but they'll just have they'll maybe have you know,
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  Speaker 4: workout on your own. Uh, they said they might have
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  Speaker 4: virtual stuff and then when you get here, maybe it's
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  Speaker 4: a week longer than.
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  Speaker 2: It is now. I don't think the owners care about that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just and you guys have obviously done way
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  Speaker 5: more research. I'm just operating strictly off of one to right.
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  Speaker 5: His tweet said possibly late June early July training camp start. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: possibly so, But that's that's the right now, that's the
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  Speaker 5: rumored report.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna talk about it. It's it's gonna cut.
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  Speaker 5: But the question is, like what Mike is saying, does
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  Speaker 5: that does that mean like training camp is starting then
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  Speaker 5: or is that a ramp up period starting then? I
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  Speaker 5: personally think if it's called training camp, it's going to
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  Speaker 5: be open and it's going to start whenever it starts.
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  Speaker 5: And you're going two three weeks more than we know.
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  Speaker 4: But this is what the owners are probably floating to
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  Speaker 4: the association. And then they'll say, oh, okay, we'll give
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  Speaker 4: you back those those two weeks. You know, like they
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  Speaker 4: always hold something, you know, in their pocket to put
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  Speaker 4: on the negotiating table. So if it means oh, starting
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  Speaker 4: a little later, I'll say, okay, we'll relent we'll give
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  Speaker 4: you that when and.
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  Speaker 2: Then in fact they don't care. You know, all they
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  Speaker 2: care about are the games.
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  Speaker 5: We just go longer elim I understand the ramp up period.
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  Speaker 6: I actually think that would be good because you really,
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  Speaker 6: for players, they really do get thrown.
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  Speaker 5: Right into the fire in July.
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  Speaker 6: Like you come back from that, you know, the five
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  Speaker 6: weeks that we have off or whatever, and then it's
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  Speaker 6: two or three days of non padded like OTA style practices,
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  Speaker 6: and then you're right into pads and joint practices, and
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  Speaker 6: then preseason games are on the horizon. It does feel
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  Speaker 6: like maybe like a two week, week and a half
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  Speaker 6: whatever ramp up period to just might eliminate some of
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  Speaker 6: like the hamstring polls and the calf strains, all that.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: If they get the eighteen game schedule, they're going to
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  Speaker 4: eliminate one preseason game. So that means you can start
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  Speaker 4: preseason games a little later and add that weekend to
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  Speaker 4: the ramp up or whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so you have that extra week of non
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  Speaker 2: preseason that you can use.
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  Speaker 6: For because right now it's a five day ramp up.
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  Speaker 6: I forget what they call it. It might actually be
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  Speaker 6: ramp up that they have that it's like three days
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  Speaker 6: no pads, and you know there's different rules of okay,
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  Speaker 6: then we have to have an off day on the
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  Speaker 6: sixth day and yeah, right, so there's different rules and
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  Speaker 6: regulations about how you get build up to pads, and
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  Speaker 6: I think they're looking to extend.
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  Speaker 2: They won't.
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  Speaker 5: They won't, okay, Freddy maybe feeling thanks, Freddy.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's always though two It's like the two
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  Speaker 3: camps of players, and Evan kind of brought up veteran players,
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  Speaker 3: players with families who might not want it. But there's
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  Speaker 3: also for the younger players who and you know, always
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  Speaker 3: when we see these OTAs, maybe sometimes you don't see
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  Speaker 3: those veterans, but you always see the guys on the bubble,
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  Speaker 3: the young guys, the guys trying to make a jump.
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  Speaker 3: And now what is it you buy in January and
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  Speaker 3: see in June. I mean that, I don't know. That
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't seem good to the game. I mean, does
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  Speaker 3: it to not have them around?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, like I said, they'll probably be virtual learning and
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  Speaker 4: you know they'll be in touch with this guy.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean just that idea.
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  Speaker 3: But just to bring up, you know, Paul and I
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  Speaker 3: we're putting together this thing which will be out with
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  Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels. We've talked about we've got to sit down
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  Speaker 3: with him, and one of the things we talked about
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  Speaker 3: before we recorded was that you can't work with the
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  Speaker 3: players anymore. He's already saying that, especially from a quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: like I can't even talk to these guys.
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  Speaker 2: They're off working.
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  Speaker 3: You know, everybody's got their private quarterback coach, But doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean that they're teaching you the right things that your
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  Speaker 3: coach wants you to teach. So I just think, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's the word of the happy medium to develop the
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  Speaker 3: game in the off season.
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  Speaker 4: That's the word of caution that the owners should listen too,
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  Speaker 4: is watch out because it all comes down to quality
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  Speaker 4: of your product, and if the quality on the field
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  Speaker 4: goes down, it will eventually hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think eighteen games it's gonna go down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The more games you play, the harder it is to
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  Speaker 5: get through it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, why don't we watch these spring leagues because
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  Speaker 4: it's thanks compared to the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the quality of play is just right.
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  Speaker 6: I just wonder too, if I just don't really like
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  Speaker 6: to your point, the NFL is probably the one pulling
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  Speaker 6: the strings on this behind the scenes to try to
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  Speaker 6: make them feel like they have a win. I just
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  Speaker 6: don't see how it's a win for the players. I
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  Speaker 6: also just for the owners. I think there also has
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  Speaker 6: to be a little bit of well, don't we want
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  Speaker 6: to keep tabs on these guys during the offseason.
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  Speaker 4: So well, that doesn't mean they can't keep tabs.
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  Speaker 6: But it's a little bit different when they're here, sure,
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  Speaker 6: and you're seeing them in person, day in and day
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  Speaker 6: out for weeks on end than it is to give
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  Speaker 6: them a phone call er FaceTime and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: what's going on?
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  Speaker 5: You can put on a It is the only sport
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  Speaker 5: that does that, though, what do you mean, Like they
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  Speaker 5: don't ask NHL players to just hey, can you stop by.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we're going to have a couple of little practices.
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  Speaker 5: They won't be contact practices, but we want to you know,
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  Speaker 5: install the neutral zone track, you know, and then you
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  Speaker 5: can come back in a couple of months for training camp.
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  Speaker 5: Football is the only sport that does that.
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  Speaker 6: It's a shorter off season in the other sports, though,
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  Speaker 6: by a little bit, I would think, right, you mean,
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  Speaker 6: especially depending on how far you go in the playoffs obviously, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean, but like, I mean, let's just say that the
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  Speaker 5: NHL season for most ended in you know, April, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the even even if you want to say the start
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  Speaker 5: of May, you know, and then hockey doesn't start till October.
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  Speaker 5: Like it would be like asking them to come in
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  Speaker 5: and like the beginning of August just you know, just
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  Speaker 5: for a little while, just for a few days, do
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  Speaker 5: you think, you know? NBA and NHL, and.
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  Speaker 6: Then you know, they have like they have developmental periods
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  Speaker 6: for younger players, like Summer League or developmental camp for
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  Speaker 6: the Bruins, which is like camps where a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Of college players that are still in college. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: get invited to those camps and stuff. Yeah, that would
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  Speaker 5: be different, and I think you could probably do that
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  Speaker 5: or some version of that in football.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think there's ways to develop, especially for
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks where it's just so important to the league, like
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  Speaker 3: you know, to let that time kind of pass. I
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  Speaker 3: just I wish there was a way. Maybe it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily need to be here in person, but maybe you
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  Speaker 3: expand the access that they're allowed to communicate with the
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  Speaker 3: coaches in terms of playbook and stuff like that. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, maybe they don't have to be here doing
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  Speaker 3: basic workout stuff, but you're still allowed to work on
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  Speaker 3: football with them because you're just losing too much time.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and there's so many young talented quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 3: this league. That's the like blood. If this leage's going
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  Speaker 3: to continue to be popular, they need to develop those quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I just don't like I'm with Evan
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  Speaker 3: three months off, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they'll have voluntary voluntary work right right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, but I think Mike's point is a good one.
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  Speaker 5: Like the ban on communication to me was odd and
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  Speaker 5: that's probably what ten years old now ish. But just
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  Speaker 5: the idea that you know, February rolls around and you're
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  Speaker 5: into March and your quarterback can't talk to your offensive
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  Speaker 5: Brady got in trouble, I know.
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  Speaker 4: But they have to be hardcore because if they're not,
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  Speaker 4: teams will find loopholes. And what they're trying to do is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, make it an even playing field, so the
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  Speaker 4: the hardcore head coaches don't take advantage of it. And
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  Speaker 4: and you know, like I said, find loopholes in the rules.
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  Speaker 3: They have to.
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  Speaker 5: They have to be Brandy went double dipping. He got
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  Speaker 5: in trouble for talking and during covid R.
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  Speaker 2: It's like everything that was Tampa time.
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  Speaker 6: It's probably not gonna help the top of the roster
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  Speaker 6: guys or like a Drake may or something like that.
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  Speaker 6: But I do wonder if some of these spring football leagues,
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  Speaker 6: if they would almost like loan some of the players
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  Speaker 6: at the back end of the roster to these teams
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  Speaker 6: in spring football so that some of these guys can
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  Speaker 6: get live reps, especially if you look at something like
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  Speaker 6: the offensive linemen that that could really use the in
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  Speaker 6: game reps. I wonder if that is a possibility. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not talking about the way the World League kind of
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  Speaker 6: was designed. Yeah, it didn't really work all that well, But.
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  Speaker 5: You do wonder if that's the end game for the FRED.
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  Speaker 5: As Fred so aptly put it, these leaks that stink
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  Speaker 5: that no one wants to watch. I wonder if Evan's.
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  Speaker 6: Friend and crazy people like me and Barth would watch,
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  Speaker 6: Like if the Patriots had players playing in the Spring League. No,
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  Speaker 6: it's our work developing.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: The example we always use was trade Nixon. Sorry trade Nixon,
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  Speaker 6: but you know, players like that US degenerates would watch
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  Speaker 6: that and just to see how the Patriot had.
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  Speaker 4: To be careful though, because you know players are encouraged
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  Speaker 4: to participate in you know, they'll have to be strict
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  Speaker 4: about those rules too, because some teams might encourage a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more than other teams.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's it's it's all to be determined. I'm
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: not worrying about it yet, but we'll see what happens.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: But again, this is all in anticipation of the eighteen game.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: So you think this is an early salvo in those negotiations.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: I like, that's what they're kind of putting in the
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: in the they're getting the jump on that first deal point.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I want to I want you and Barth
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: to put your heads together and figure out a way
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: to do this minor league thing. So because there's there's tape,
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: you know, like because you can't you have you can't
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: have a whole team worth you know, like like like
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: in baseball, you know, teams have minor leagues that they're
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: they're their own players. You can't have enough of those
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: kinds of players to have a whole team. But then
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: you're saying, like if it's like Trey Nixon, is he
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: running what offense. Is he running?
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I would say that it's maybe each
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: team in the XFL gets a certain amount of NFL players.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: They're able to sign the contracts on loan like they
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: do in European soccer, Like you're loaning the player out
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: to them. There's probably some sort of like injury waiver involved.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: You know, if they get hurt, then the XFL team
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: has to foot the bill for the you know, the
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: surgery or you know, whatever the case may be with that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: But we're not talking about star players that if somebody
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: players that need the rest, right it's you know, this
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: catastrophic thing for the Patriots. We're talking about exactly, you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: young guys that could you know, Kishan Bouti right, like
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: just give him the reps like we see if you
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: know he can develop. Maybe it's the different offense, but
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: at least the football skills or he's working on year
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: round or in the spring, and you know, technique is technique.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: There's got to be a way to do that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I wonder too if there might be a way to
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: incentivize those players and maybe maybe you say they're not
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: even tied to the Patriots anymore, like you know, like yes,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: you have your contract is still you know, with the Patriots.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: But let's say at the end of the season you're
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: part of a pool where if you have a great
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: year that maybe you know what I mean, maybe there's
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: a way to get them to another team, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: like like I don't know, I'm just trying to think
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: of ways that that because you mentioned these low end receivers.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know how many years did Trade Nixon
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: go without even playing that's my game, you know, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: these guys like that's what they need. They just need
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: and who knows some of them and actually getting game
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: action might excel and might all of a sudden show
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: something that you know that then you want them to
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: feel like if you do really well, it's not just
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: like you have to go back to your team and
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe another team can work something out
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: that yeah too, I.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: Think the hope would be that it showcases them to
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: other teams. Maybe there's trades or something like that involved.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: But also, you come in at a higher point than
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: what you left in the winter, right, So you leave
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: in February and then you develop your skills in the XFL.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: Maybe you come to training camp you're a different player
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: you have, you know, you have a confidence you're a
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: better player at what you do. I think for lineman, quarterbacks,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: like I think all those positions would really benefit from
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: something like this. Like if you know, it doesn't work
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: for rookies because they just came off their college season
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: and they have to do the combine and stuff like that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: But let's say next offseason, Joe Milton gets to play
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: in the XFL. Yeah, and he just gets to start
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: games in the XFL and play a ten game season,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: and now you don't have OTAs and stuff like that
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: that he's missing. So you have this this gap in
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: the NFL schedule anyways, and maybe the XFL is you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: moves up a little bit just to accommodate that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Now, on the con side, for existing players in the NFL,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: if they did do this, if I'm the existing team,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I'm the who's coaching him, How are they coaching him?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: What are they telling him? You know? Like I'm right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: So that's that's what I was talking about in terms
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: of systems. Now, if you you know, and I know
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: that I'm probably the only one at the table that
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: has actually watched any of the spring stuff. Probably they're
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: all for the most part, x NFL coaches, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: like Wade Phillips coaches a team. Yeah, you know, I
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: think Greg Williams is involved with one of the teams.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: So they're all guys that quote unquote know what they're doing.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: For lack of a better term. It's not like, you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: you got some renegade high school coach that's never punting
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: and you know, it's not really anything that he can translate.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: But I do think there's a way. I think Evan's right.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I think there's a way of structuring it so every
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: team can get ten or twelve players playing in the spring,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: and yeah they're they're NFL players, but they're really not.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: You know, they're therefore their rookie in first year players
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: who've never played on rosters, you know, for any discernible
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: length of time. That's how you get them some experience.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Cynthia says, we watch spring football, or as I call it,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: minor league football for two reasons. A Because we're going
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: through football with draw and b. Every now and then
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: we see magic that needs to come to the league,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: such as Jake Bates, so.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Jake bits a kicker match second that has made like
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: four or five sixty yard field goals, so he's.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Like eleven for fourteen, but like, would you say four? Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I think you've got like three or four or four
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: or five something like that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Do you think that I don't have to watch I
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: can hear about it and look at on the highlight.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: But now sincerity, that guy should be invited to a
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: training camp by an NFL team.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: This NFL team, So he sounds like he's going to
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: be based on something I read over the weekend. But
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: they and we were right when we talked about it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Teams are not allowed to contact them until the season's over.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think they're in this a little maybe
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: outside the box, But do you think ever in a
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: league like this you could institute standard playbooks for every
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: team and you know.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: It just it takes that whole like football teague in
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: this minor league.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I might where football because football is the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: only sport, like you know, for like me going to
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: playing for another hockey coach not a big deal, like
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: oh he's got a different for it, like it's not
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: going to really screw up, but football, Like, well, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're gonna have to learn the playbook?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Like I just wonder if there would ever be a
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: way to level the playing ground where it's like, look,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: everybody's going to basically I mean they kind of do
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: it at the Senior Bowl, where I mean, I know
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: that's extremely restricted, but.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Make every team run the West Coast offense.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and and I mean but I mean
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: also in line with developing offensive linemen who haven't. I mean,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: that's something that the league is hurting for right now.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I mean you look at some of the supply and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: the demand and based on what college football is producing
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: great receivers right like, I mean that's that they're coming
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: to the league in droves. But it's a free for
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: all for trying to get a left tackle. And now
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: you're like drafting guys in the third round that are
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: never even played left tackle. But you're like crossing your fingers, like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I just wonder how you could start to sort out
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: something be.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Able to do it. I agree with you guys one
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: hundred percent. I mean, even you know basketball, not everybody
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: you know in the G League is running the same offense.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: You know, teams have systems, teams run plays and whatnot.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's not as the whole NFL but they do
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: have to come to the NFL, to the n b
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: A and you come from the main team and you
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: I don't think the main team is doing exactly what
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: the Celtics are doing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Mhm.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: And you know, so it can be done. I mean,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: you just play five out in the main clause.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Speaking of the Celtics, congratulations making the what they won. Yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: making it to the finals, assuming it's going to be
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: against Dallas, but of course that's not done yet.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: But no team has ever come from three to zero.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So it's going to be the Dallas Mavericks.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And the Celtics, and I think that's gonna be fun
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: to watch.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, Luka.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Doncik is I think the best player in Basketball's.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: My opinion is.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: You don't love the way more in that game.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I like Luca don Now he's he's a top five player.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: He's fat, he can shoot, he can dribble, he can
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: pass great basketball.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I can't play defense, but he's.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Great now, He's he's a he would be the best
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: player in the series. As much as I that kills
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: me to say that, you.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Know what, I would can we this Celtics Celtics? Okay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: his ability to close, I think separates him from from
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: the Celtics two stars. They did just win three games. No, no, no, no,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: But but I'm just I'm not like that, not the
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: way Luca does. No, he stepped back threes in your face. Yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: as time expires. Yeah, but I think, I think if
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: you have a three to end the game and it
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: clinks and we need Drew Holliday to get the rebound
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: that Marcus Smart could never get.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: But this whole thing, you know, the Patriots, at the Patriots,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the Celtics, you know, yeah they won four, but you
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: know the Pacers gave away some of those games. Yeah,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: they made a lot of mistakes. But I'll tell you
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the Patriot, he's on a.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Whole entirely different. You know how I always complained about
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: my algorithm. Friends, is the diametric opposite of Maya.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: The Pacers.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: The national media has been the way the Pacers shot,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Like I agree with Jade, I thought Door was brown.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: They all became Michael Jordan.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: They couldn't miss, you know, like it was uncanny the
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: way they shot. And yes, they came into the game,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: into the series as one of the best offensive you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: uh teams in the league and they certainly showed that.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: But like they, you know, the Patriots, I keep saying Patriots.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: The Celtics had to keep up with them offensively, you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: because they yeah, well they but even the guys that
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: came in, everybody shot, well it was incredible, I know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: But they couldn't score like they They score one twenty
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: not one oh two. Yeah, there's a big difference.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I give the Celts a lot of credit.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I think the Celtics can play with any team, any style.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: That's I think their strength. You know, they can play
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: run and done, they can slow it up. I think
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: that's the strength of the Celtics is they've got a
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: deep bench and they can play all different styles.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: They don't have a deep bench, they don't have no bench.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Well that's honestly been the biggest problem.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: For especially with pusingis out. Yeah, I'm Sam House going
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: to be back in this game right now, So that
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: would make you six and a half sep six.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: What I like.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: I kind of like Pritchard. I call him Prichard. I
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: think Houser can't play.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know how you count Pritchard. I don't know
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: how you played Pritchard against Dallas.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Well, well that's I mean, yeah, I'm not you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: James Nate Smith, I'm not breaking down the matchup, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I in the playoffs, they've you know, with Puzingas out,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: they've only had six players that have given them any
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: kind of contribution.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, because Howser can and that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Then they're forced to have hors in the regulars.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: He's shot bad for the whole playoffs. Playoffs, Yeah, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: he's thrown up.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: This is not close. This is real basketball now. Yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: he ain't going twelve for horfor Fish Well yeah, yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Horford's five horfor it's the starter.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Pzingis is the start.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: So he hasn't played.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm assuming he's going.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: So that's a big assumption.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: And if he doesn't, if he plays, then they'll have
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: they'll have Horford off the bench.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Right, so you have six deep.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I consider Pritchard on the guy that comes off the bench.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: He is a guy who comes off the bench. That is,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: he plays about eight minutes a game.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: No, he can play well, but you know, when you
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: get into this time of year, not to go all
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: James Naismith on you, but when you get to this
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: time of year, it's all about matchups. It's same as football, right,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: It's all about matchups. And every team in the NBA
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: now pick and rolls and they switch the defender onto
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: their main guy that they want to be on. There,
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: Rudy Gobert against Luca Uh, you know, Jason Tatum against
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Miles Turner, Like they pick on who's the guy that
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: we want isolate you on. If you put Pritcher on
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: the court against Dallas, they're going to give the ball
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: to Luca. They're gonna switch Pritchard onto Luca, and Luca
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: is gonna destroy him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: And that's what they call that matchups.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Heard that before.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: There's like some there's some basketball terms for it. You know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: it's like a corner like you know, and then in
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: football that you know that you have the advantage against
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: this corner and you just go after him and go.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: After him, go out, Well you get grunk on a linebacker?
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Sure, something like that, same thing, yeah, kJ right, But
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I the Celtics right now, their bench against Indiana was unplayable,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: and that that is a problem they they they were unplayable.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Now when you get to the finals, you know, guys
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: playing forty five minutes a game, you know Jason Tatum
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: doesn't come out, okay, fine, you know you're at the
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: finals at this point, like you empty the tank like whatever,
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: and they've had an easy road so technically they should
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: still have some gas in the tank.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: But I don't worry about them. Like like Holiday Brown, Tatum,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: d White, they can play forty plus minutes, no concerns.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Horford can't and he's been forced to. And even if
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Pauzingis comes back, he's not going to give you much
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: more than twenty minutes, I think if he plays.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: But if he plays twenty five minutes in a game
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: and you split those minutes between Horford and Brazil.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: I feel much better about everything if if that could happen,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: if they could play twenty five minutes each. Right now,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Horford is giving you one good game out of every five,
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: and it's not his fault. He can't play forty minutes
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: a game, yes, and that's what he's been asked to do.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: He was unbelievable Saturday night making making seven threes in
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: forty minutes. Last night he was invisible for forty minutes.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like the Celtics team is as an
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: independent observer, like it just feels like so much of
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the Celtics talk points out all their flaws, like I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: so much like them, Like this team's in the finals.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: They just want to start after the game. And I thought,
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's very I thought Dallas shouldn't show up
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: for the finals based.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: On it's gotten very similar to like the Prime Patriots,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: where all you're looking for is reasons why they won't
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: win because they are the best team, so they should
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: win and we can sit here, we can talk about
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: how great Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are, but the
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: bottom line is is that why won't they win? Is
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: more interesting and it stinks, but that you know, when
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: you're doing radio, it's think.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Just now, that's answer.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: The best team.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: They should They should win the finals. Not only should
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: they they should beat Dallas in five games, like this
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: should not be a close series against Mike.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'll help.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: You because I know you don't try to put it
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: all together.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Think of some of the Tomato Can games. Yeah, sure, no,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: think of Brocossweiler Texans. Think of winning that game on
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: a last second.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Field goal against them at work, but against.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: That's what they did three times in this series, like
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: that's why you know and listen, I don't think there's
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: any doubt I am as fully confident as and I don't.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Fred will tell you I don't get like that all
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: that often, where I just don't think there's any chance
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: that the Boston team's gonna lose. I always think there's
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: a chance they're gonna lose. I think there's so much
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: better than everybody else. I think they kind of fooled
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: around a little bit in the last two games without Haliburton,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: and they kind of knew we'll just we'll keep it close.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe they they did a little too much Saturday night
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: last night. I don't think was ever in question.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: No, but I go back to I give the Pacers
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: credit for their offensive prowess.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, no, I know, but I don't think the
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Celtics played that well in the last two games. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: there's so much better than the Pacers. They stayed coman.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: This is a team that was a sixth seed. Friend, yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: and then they take away their best player, and Matthermins
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: not a bad player either, he's been out for a while.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Like Pacers are good. That's a team that's a team
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: that the Celtics probably should be in four games and
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: they did handle it and they did yeah, and they
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: be close games.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But when you're shooting like that, you're gonna stay with
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: any team.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: So why are you shooting like that? Well because of
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: the coach. And why didn't they shoot like that in
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: the last ten minutes of the games? Well, they were
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: turning it over because the Celtics locked it down. If
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: they played like that for forty eight minutes, the games
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: would have been like Game two.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I think they choked a little bit.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the I think the Celtics. I give
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: the Celtics more credit than you. I think the Celtics
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: locked it down in the last ten minutes of the
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: last two games, especially Game three.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Is there still something though, Celtics superfan? Is there still
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: something scaresy about this team?
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: That's what's under the supervan?
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what's under the with all these discussions that
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: there always seems with these discussions, something under the service
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: that if it doesn't go right there in trouble, like
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: it's just like this this is something under the surface.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Always that seems like there's one way that there's.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Even even my one big fear is like I don't
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: think there was good when it's close and late. And
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: then they just won two games close and late in
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: three games. Yeah, the first one was given to him.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: These two games they took.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: I don't I This is the first time since the
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: oait KG Celtics where I really felt like they they
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: have no fatal flaws. They really don't, because they they can,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: like to Fred's point, they can play either way. You know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: the most important thing I think is they have another
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: level defensively that I think that they just haven't felt
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: like they need to get to.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: I agree because these other.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: Teams stink that they've played and they are missing you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell, they're missing Halliburton, so they don't need to
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: necessarily turn up the defensive intensity to ten for.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: The whole game.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: You know, they match up really well against Dallas because Luca,
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: as good as he is, if you put Jalen Brown
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: on Luca, Jalen Brown's much more athletic, He's taller, he's long,
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: he can disrupt him. They have two guards that can
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: guard Kyrie and can switch off to all NBA defense guards.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: You know, they match up really well against Dallas on paper,
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: like all the trends and stuff like that tell you
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: the Celtics should cakewalk Dallas. The only thing that tells
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: you that they won't is that Luca is the best
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: player in the series.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: In the league league.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Last time the Celtics played, they won twenty eight points. Yeah,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: but was it a game that it was Dallas cared about.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there were games, but it was a little
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: bit deceptive. They really blew their doors off, like late
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: in the third quarter into the fourth quarter. It wasn't
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: like that, and all of a sudden it just was
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: an avalanche. But everything you haven't said is right. They
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: have I I'll give you Luka and Kyrie like just individually,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: like the next five players are Celtics. Yeah, especially if
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Porzingis is back that Dallas. That's with pussing.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: Dallas made some moves at the trade deadline and kind
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: of reconfigured the supporting cast around Luca and Kyrie, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: they're there have been great ever since. I think there's
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: sixteen and four post trade deadline in the regular season
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: and then obviously they've been great in the playoffs. So
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: they they redid their team around the two stars.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: PJ.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: Washington's kind of like their their three and d Guy
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: on the wing. You know, he's a really good player
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: for what the role player.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Lively guy has been pretty now he got hurt, can
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: cut it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: I mean it's ten days off, so no, I mean
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: there's a long time off, so he'll be fine.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brown a little sneaky, dirty little Danny Aingel not
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: that sneaky.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's always grabbing people's jerseys and yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: It's great when you get away with it, right. I
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: loved what he said after the game.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I loved it after this game.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: I didn't hear what he yeah. I mean, so, first
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: of all, the fact that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: He didn't make an All NBA team is ridiculous.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Who do you take off?
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: There is multiple guys like Haliburton played half a good year, okay,
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: and then he got hurt.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: He pulled his hamstring, same injury. What did he say
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: about being dirty? Oh no, nothing about that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: He did tell Miles Turner to go home though, which
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: was great, But he just basically said that he was
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: shocked when he won m VP of the series, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: his face was like you could tell that he was shocked,
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: and he said, you know, I don't ever win any
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: individual awards. So when they called my name, I didn't
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: think that it was you know, I was just surprised
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: and I couldn't agree with him.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: More so, I thought Drew Holliday was the MVP personally,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: but he had some he had some big plays and
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: certainly won that one game with the shot didn't get
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: any but I think consistently over the course of the
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: four games, I couldn't argue with Brown getting m v P.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: You know it was between those two well.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: I mean those actually, yeah, it was in Tatum with
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: the only two that would be it was actually Tatum.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I think. You know, if you're going to be like
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Evan and actually watched the games, yeah, you'd realize that
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: two of the games they won because of Holiday.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: I thought that Drew Holliday made the most like clutch plays, Yes,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: but in terms of the stats, it was obviously going
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: to be one of the j's. I mean they're both
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: They averaged thirty points a game.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Like one it was five.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: I know for the vote, I have a surprise that
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: nobody voted for Drew Halid.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: I was to I didn't think he had any chance
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: to get it, and serious I didn't think he had
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: any sniff. But I thought someone would be cerebral and
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: say I'm going to vote for Drew Hollid. Yeah, no
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: one did.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: But you know it's it's whenever anybody but the Jays
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: do something, it's like, oh my god, look at Drew Holliday.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: You know, he's the X factor.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: You know, that's a good way to describe him, though,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: or white cat.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You know the things that he does. He does the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: little things that the other guys.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: People used to tell me there was someone else that did.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Oh your favorite Marcus Smartt.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I cannot tell you plays how much different this team
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: is without Marcus Martin a good way. It's not even
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: funny how much better they are without him.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: How did he have Yeah, he got hurt. It's it's
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: not because he's a bad player. Oh he's fine. It's
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: like I've said that hillion times. People just treated him
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: the way what for what he is, which is a
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: solid NBA role player, then I think it will be
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: fine around here. They made him into a folk hero.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: But also including himself, that's well, that was the bigger problem.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Like I everybody else's opinion is whatever. Yeah, but like
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: he thought he was the alpha amongst the Jalen Brown
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: and Jason Tatum as they're going to All Star Games
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: and all NBA teams and stuff like that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Max Contract, I can't really recall holiday like isoing, you
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: know and jacking up a step back three in the
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: last minute of one of these games. Now he had
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: plays when he needs to make, yeah, like steals in
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: in layups and you know, the you know plays that
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: you have to get a back to a three point
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: playing on Saturday night, that was the biggest play of
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: the game. But I'm talking about I just remember he
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: remember one used to give it this, Yeah, give me
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: the ball, give me the ball. It's terrible.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I got this, I got this. No, you don't. You
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: never make important shots. You don't got this. Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: Drew Holliday and Derek White both know their roles, they
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: know theirs in the hierarchy, and they're so good at
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: what they do. And Marcus Smart it was late in
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: those types of games, he would try to take over. Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: and he would he would push the j's out of
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: the way and say this is you know. That was
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: why everybody would.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Take a rocket shot at the coach after the game.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: That's why everybody would get so frustrated with Tatum because
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: everybody would want Tatum to go take the ball from
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Marcus mart and be like, no, this is this is
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: my ball now, like get out of the way, and
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: he just didn't do.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Speaking of Tatum amazing talent, I just wish the Celtics would,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: you know, run more plays.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: For him, like off screens and stuff.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Like a lot of his three pointers, they're like, all right,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I'm shooting this one no matter what. So he'll dribble, dribble, dribble,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: you know, and then you know eventually he can't go in,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: so he'll take a step back take a three pointer.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: But I love them to work some plays with him
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: where he comes off screens and gets open that way.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: To shoot, you know, set plays. I don't think they
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: do enough of that with him.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: They're more a conceptual play team than like a playbook team.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: I know, but like most teams like that, Fred your complaint.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: That's like when Evan said, like the national media sometimes
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: is hard on the Celtics. That's their people say their
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: offense is water.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Everything I know Celtics goes back to Larry Bird and
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Larry Bird like they would run That's awesome. I mean
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Larry Bird could do what Tatum does. You know, he'd
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: work a guy and then you know, fall back and
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: hit a three. But a lot of the Celtics would
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: run plays for Larry where he'd come off a screen
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: and get that wide open three.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: You know. But they they worked him, they worked the
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: team to get him open, and they should do the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: same for Tatum.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: They're different players though, Like Larry Bird is a much
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: better shooter than Tatum is.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, Tatum, Tatum like a three point shooter is
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: just okay.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: If they let people take like fifteen threes a game
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: when Bird played, that's true, Yeah, a whole different game.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: It is a different game. Threes are so much more,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: you know, part of the game plan now. But I'm
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: just saying, it'd be nice to just run some plays
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: for Tatum, you know.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they play. Nice to run some place, period, that's
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: the that's what they're looking for. I love it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: They play five out so they have all five guys
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: are on the three point line, I know, and then
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: they played they run the high picking rolls for Tatum,
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: but he's the ball handler, right, so they don't they
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: don't run him off of screens very because he's not
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: like Ray Allen, Like, you're not going to just run
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: him through screens and then have him pull up for
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: three like a spot up jump shot.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: So he he runs high pick and roll with Al
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Horford a lot, he'll run it with porzingis, which the
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: porzingis Tatum high pick and roll is the most efficient
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: play in basketball.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: I do like Fred's point, though, I like Tatum as
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: more of a catch and shoot three guy than the
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: step back three.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Guy he likes, he likes.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: He's you know, like the one that Luca hit to
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: win the game. I don't know if you saw that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: It was Friday night. It gets go Beart. I don't
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: like his percentages on those.
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: To me, the key to that, to that play was
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: what Luca did to go bear to get. I mean
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: that was as wide open a three as you can
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: get because he toyed with him.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, matchup Hunter, all right, foods here.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: As you can see, it's kind of a wide open.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: We'll we'll end the Celtics talk there, but yes, we
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: think it's a I think it's more of a core
• 39:00
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• 39:00
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• 40:05
  Speaker 10: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: hoy Or Brian thanks for coming by man.
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: Thanks appreciate you on guys.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we asked this of everybody.
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: So I think people who are football fans, Patriot fans know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: is Brian gonna play? Is Brian not gonna play? What's
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: what's going on with Brian Hoyr these days?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: I think it would take a great opportunity to come
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: along for me to do that. Obviously, I was in
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: Las Vegas last year. I know I can still play
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: because I beat the Patriots last year, one of the
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: most tooche.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: One of the most.
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: It's on my list, Brian my sweet moments of my career.
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: So we'll talk about that later. But you know, so
• 40:36
  Speaker 11: I know I can still physically do it. But at
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: thirty eight years old, my kids are getting older. You know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: I think it would take a really great opportunity for me,
• 40:44
  Speaker 11: you know, to come along, for me to to kind
• 40:47
  Speaker 11: of look and see. But so I know I can
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: still do it. Body feels relatively healthy and you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: so we'll see. It's it's always open. People always say,
• 40:56
  Speaker 11: you know, you if someone's offering you an opportunity to
• 40:59
  Speaker 11: play and you feel like you could do it, you know,
• 41:01
  Speaker 11: you know, I remember a former teammate saying, play till
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: they tell you you can't.
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: So definitely capable of it. It's just got to be
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: I think, the right opportunity at this point.
• 41:10
  Speaker 10: You know, idiots like us sit there and oh, you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: he can play, or it's time to go, and everything
• 41:15
  Speaker 10: like that. But I don't think the lay people realize
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: what's it like to make that decision as a family. Yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: when you have a wife who's supported you cross country trips,
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: taking kids back and forth, at some point in time,
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: her decision or her opinion, while always valued, you got
• 41:34
  Speaker 10: to really listen to that's got to be hard, like
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: from a as a family standpoint, like at what point
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: time do I need to devote my time to them?
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: And that's a huge part of the decision making.
• 41:43
  Speaker 11: So that's why I said, like, it have to be
• 41:45
  Speaker 11: the right opportunity and all those things, because you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: deciding to go to play in Las Vegas last year,
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: it was not an easy choice.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: It was an easy choice because it was.
• 41:54
  Speaker 11: Josh in my relationship with him, but it wasn't an
• 41:57
  Speaker 11: easy choice in the regards of what does this mean
• 41:59
  Speaker 11: for my family? And thankfully we had a great school here.
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: That allowed our kids to kind of virtual school with
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: the help of a tutor out there.
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: But it was rough.
• 42:07
  Speaker 11: It was it was a rough transition, and they were
• 42:10
  Speaker 11: all happy to come back once the season was over.
• 42:12
  Speaker 11: And so now my son, he's going into seventh grade.
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: He got accepted as Avarian brother. So you know, those
• 42:17
  Speaker 11: are all things that you have to take into account,
• 42:19
  Speaker 11: Like I want to watch him play football at of course,
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: he's watched me play for a long time.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: So maybe it's times, you know, for a.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Role reverse when you have when you came out of
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Michigan State, I mean, you didn't get drafted, yep, And
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know what your expectations were heading in, but
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: to then have what a fifteen year career off of that,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: what were your expectations sort of when you arrived here
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: in two thousand and nine, what were you hoping for.
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: I was just talking about this with my son the
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: other day, and I said, listen, when I didn't get drafted,
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: you know, I kind of thought, Okay, the Patriots are
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: going to sign me.
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: I'll learn from Tom Brady.
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: Obviously, I grew up I watched Bill coach in Cleveland,
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: so I always kind of had an affinity to him,
• 42:59
  Speaker 11: and obviously him being a great coach. I thought it
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: was a great opportunity to go learn, and I thought,
• 43:03
  Speaker 11: you know, maybe i'll make the practice squad if I
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: get released.
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: At least I'll learn from these guys. And then sure enough, I.
• 43:09
  Speaker 11: Kind of worked my way up the ranks, ended up
• 43:11
  Speaker 11: being Tom's backup my rookie year. And you know, the
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: things that I learned in those first four years were
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: so invaluable to me that when I finally got some
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: opportunities to play, you know, you put those in motion
• 43:22
  Speaker 11: and then you just keep stack in year, stack in years,
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: and and you know, the thing about the quarterback position
• 43:27
  Speaker 11: is if you're relatively competent and you're a good guy,
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: and you make some connections, you know, you just extend
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: your career, extend your career. That's you mean, when I
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: look at last year, if if Josh isn't the head
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: coach in Las Vegas last year, then you know, maybe
• 43:41
  Speaker 11: my my my career ends there. But you know, luckily
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: for me, I've met a lot of great coaches, played
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: with a lot of great players, and made a lot
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: of great connections which allowed me to do that.
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: That's a little bit unorthodox Brian as a rookie. Now
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: you're backing up Brady, who's, by the way, is coming
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: off a knee surgery at that point in time, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: you're the only backup quarterback your rookie year. That was
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: the same in ten, you're the only backup court. Like,
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: not a lot of teams did that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Well, how did that?
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: What was your thought process in that? Like you want
• 44:07
  Speaker 10: to talk about literally next man up into your one
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: pitch away, Yeah, you're one pitch away at that point.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: I think I was too naive to even understand that
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: at that point.
• 44:14
  Speaker 11: You know, now looking back, when you realize, like Tom's
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: coming off of major knee reconstruction, had you know, some
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: hiccups along the way. Man, if I had had to
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: play that year, I don't know how ready I would
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: have been. Obviously, Bill believed in me, and Bill O'Brien
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: believed to me, and and so I'm sure it would have,
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: you know, worked itself out. We had a really good team,
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: So I think I would have relied on those guys
• 44:34
  Speaker 11: around me. But you know, at that point, you're just
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: I was just thrilled to be an NFL football player,
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: and now I'm going to a meeting room every day
• 44:43
  Speaker 11: with Tom Brady and soaking up what I can I
• 44:46
  Speaker 11: can learn from him.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: And then you know, that went for four years.
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: And then until I got released in twenty twelve. So
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: I mean those years, like you know, those are kind
• 44:54
  Speaker 11: of like you know, your the years you're building your
• 44:57
  Speaker 11: foundation of your career, and I couldn't have done it
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: in a better place.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you a little bit about that
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: rookie season. You were part of some really good teams,
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: and you know, ultimately you were part of a champion
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: in eighteen, but you know, you had that great year
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: in twenty ten, twenty eleven, you go to the super
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Bowl in two thousand and nine. You probably didn't recognize
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: it at the time, it's your rookie year, but do
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: you kind of look back and say, there was a
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: little bit of something amiss in two thousand and nine.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: That's sort of the way it's kind of viewed here.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: That was kind of a reset year, and we're very
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: spoiled because we've.
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: Been brought up a lot of like I didn't know
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: any better.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Tennesse is going to the playoffs and all that stuff
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: is not I thought it was a great I'm like, man,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: I'm a great but did you did you see did
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: you sense any like sort of dysfunction at the time,
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: or you know, maybe looking back at it, do you
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: feel like that wasn't the same as some of the
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: better teams that you were on.
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: Definitely wasn't the same, I think looking back now, knowing
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: what I know and being on some great teams, it wasn't.
• 45:51
  Speaker 11: There was definitely some learning curve, there was some adjusting
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: to new I mean, that was Bill O'Brien's first year
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: as a coordinator here, you know, so now I know
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: how important that is, you know, being a quarterback. When
• 46:00
  Speaker 11: you're learning, even if you're keeping somewhat of the system intact,
• 46:03
  Speaker 11: you're working with someone new, and and that was you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: so those were kind of I guess you call growing pains.
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: But I thought, like, man, we're going to the playoffs,
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: like we're this is I'm on the Patriots. This is
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: like a super Bowl organization. Like Okay, one year, you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: we didn't win the Super Bowl, and I'm like, oh,
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: we'll win it next year. I mean, I think that
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: that's kind of the expectation you have when you come
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: into that organization and I've always said this, I've always
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: looked at it. When Tom Brady was the quarterback, I
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: never went into a game thinking we're not going to win. Ever,
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: there was never And I've waiting when I've been on
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: other teams, whether I was the quarterback or someone else
• 46:35
  Speaker 11: is the quarterback, and I'm.
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: Like, man, I don't know how much to chance we
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: have this Sunday.
• 46:39
  Speaker 11: And I can honestly say every game that I ever
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: played here backing Tom up, that there was I never
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: had that feeling. And obviously a lot of other players
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: around that. But you know, when I talk with a
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: lot of my old teammates, I think that that feeling
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: was very you know similar.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: I bring it up because it's again that's why I
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: preface it by saying we're spoiled, you know when Nats
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: can hit a quote unquote down here. But you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Bill infamously said on that documentary, I just can't get
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: these guys to play them. I was playing in that
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: game at the time, Tom standing next I'll get rushed
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: by New Orleans Lewins, and I think I remember thinking
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: to myself, like, wow, I'm playing in a Monday night
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: football game, you know, like, Okay, one bad game.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: We got crushed, But I'm playing in a Monday night
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: football game. That's pretty cool.
• 47:22
  Speaker 11: And you know, you see that and you really and
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: then having been on champion, champion team and teams that
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: went to Super Bowls, you realize like, we probably didn't
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: have a chance to go to the super Bowl that year.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Right, And then you have that off season, which I
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: think is a very sort of important offseason. Yep, kind
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: of springboards the second run of the Dynasty. You get Devin, Yep,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: you get Gronk, you get Adan Hernandez. Did you sort
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: of sense like, wow, we're going to be a lot
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: better you sort of get into training camp in twenty ten.
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: I think what I realized, you know, going into my
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: second year as a pro, is like, wow, we added
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: these two tight ends.
• 47:55
  Speaker 12: Ad.
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: You add Devin, who you know clearly was a great player,
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: run off the out of me. He's returning kickoffs for touchdowns.
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: You know, a first round pick like you added, and
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: those are you know, I'm just as young as them.
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: So it's kind of like, wow, we got like some
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: really good players. We had Cheung the year that I came, Yep,
• 48:11
  Speaker 11: Julian was coming. You know, kind of creating his way.
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: Through the school play costumes.
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: No replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: of delivery, everyone could focus on the perfect opening.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Night FedEx Where now it's next.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: For residential delivery.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Only and now great moments in.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: History. No sense in traveling right now?
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: No, and he does you know, he doesn't just travel.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: He usually does some pretty immersive, extensive trips.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, himself in.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: The culture the people.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: If you got to give that, you know, case of
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: cat food to the local shelter.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Why do you mock?
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: What?
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Why do you mind? You're a bad person mocking? Yes
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: you are, you're mocking.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: That's what.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Grint on your face. You've got that chesh your cat
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: grin on your face. Always going around the world doing
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: good things.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: What a bad man.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Look at the bad man doing good things, trying to
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: help the cats. Is this a shelter for cats? Yeah?
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: My cat's been a little out of sorts really the
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: last week or so. We couldn't find them for a
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: long time. Last Saturday we were like, stop at you
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: see that, Fred, No cat out there now?
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yea, let's sit down with them. That's another great moment from.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: All right back here and Patriots unfiltered A five to
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: five past five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. We're
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: talking ot As and Patriots, and we're talking Celtics again.
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's always.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Great when a Boston team gets to the championship, which
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: the Celtics did last night, So kudos to them.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: It's like until it starts, right, No, I wonder if Drake.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: May will attend any of the games.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Sure, those court side seats are a little tougher to
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: get in the championship.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know if maybe our own evelyns are would
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: like to go with him?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: He can, Yeah, will you be at any of those games?
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Might be Oh okay, yeah, if you can find me.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Right, So let's open it up to the listeners. We'll
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: start with the A Sticket hotline. Sam's in North Carolina
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: hates Sam.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Are you.
• 50:39
  Speaker 12: All right? So come from North Carolina? Around here, college basketball.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Is pretty big, Yeah, I would say so.
• 50:47
  Speaker 12: I'm a huge Duke fran and I've been watching Tadum
• 50:49
  Speaker 12: for a while now, and well, obviously there's no shadow
• 50:51
  Speaker 12: of the doubt. The guy's uber talented but I'm still
• 50:54
  Speaker 12: waiting on him to go take it. He dribbled the
• 50:56
  Speaker 12: ball off his foot trying to go behind his back
• 50:58
  Speaker 12: turn it over against South Carolina, and the sick of
• 51:00
  Speaker 12: Brown saying, your Drake's brother Luke hit the shout against
• 51:05
  Speaker 12: Kentucky and won the title. Gotta hate that guy, Okay,
• 51:10
  Speaker 12: all right? With my question is do we think Drake
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: actually gets a chance in camp to win the job,
• 51:15
  Speaker 12: because if he's better than brasill it black Coop do
• 51:18
  Speaker 12: the same thing and mentor him.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I do think he will get the chance.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: And I think that if he's noticeably better and and
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: gets it mentally, I think he'll play right away. I
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: don't think that there's any hard and fast rule that
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: the Patriots have already made that he's got to sit
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: for any period of time if they think he's ready.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: All Right, I appreciate that, thanks Sam.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, no, I agree. I just I don't
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: think he will. I mean, and that's not a knock
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: on him or anything. I just you know, I think
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: a good plan is to to kind of get the
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: ball roll with Jacobe Rissett. You got a whole new offense.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: You know. It's like I don't even know. Well, I
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: think I know what you're looking for yet if.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: You if you assume that Drake's not going to be ready,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: that's the plan. But I think that the plan can
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: be changed based on conditions in the ground.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Sure. I mean, I just think generally you don't go
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: in with any real firm plan. Let the guys you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: that's the job of the personnel department is to put
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: enough competition around there that, yeah, they have questions, but
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I think that you know, last year, I mean, and
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I don't feel great, great great about the depth this
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: year that some of the problem positions. But I do
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: feel better, I think than I did last year, you know,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: at least with a bunch of offensive linemen like you
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: just you hope. I mean, I think it was right
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: about in the mailback today. I think it all just
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: it really just depends on if anybody can play left tackle.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, and really, in a perfect world, if Cayden
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Wallace really could play left tackle, I think all of
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: a sudden, you know you feel okay about the offensive line.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think you feel like a core far
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: on the right is a serviceable right tackle. And you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: if if they like you know, if they like Wallace
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: enough and he can play left tackle, and everybody's kind
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: of like, all right, City South looks like he can
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: you know, fill in for cold Strange David Andrews. Just
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: reap for a couple of years, Michael, and when you
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: maybe he goes back inside. I mean I think that,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: you know, that's the perfect world. And if if nobody
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: really develops as a tackle, then you know, you start
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: to scramble.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question. I don't know the
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: answer to this. I just want to pull people in
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: the preseason. What can you get a better idea of
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: they're ready? The quarterback or the offensive line just in
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: the preseason.
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: Quarterback, Yeah, I agree. I think the offensive you don't
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: do You're not scheming pressure.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: You're not how many lives the offensive line gets right.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: So like, so, okay, let's say May is looking good.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: It's hard to say, well, the offensive line is not ready.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I think you kind of have to trust.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: That it is right well, and I mean by the
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: same token, I mean defense doesn't really do them throw
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: them much at you either, So I mean there's always
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: going to be a leap of faith from the preseason
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: into the regular unless the guy is just like.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: A turnstyle out there, you know. And then even when
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: the defense isn't throwing anything at you, he's.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Losing getting me run. He's just lining straight up on guys.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: That really happens, so like, and.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: You're not playing it. Even even if he's getting time,
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: you're not playing against other guys that are going to
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: be coming after. So like, forget the preseason games themselves,
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: but we're just talking about what we see every day,
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: you know, on the practice field and it's not live.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: We know they're not going to tackle the quarterback and
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: that makes it easier for the quarterback knowing that you're
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: not going to get hit, but you can sort of
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: get an idea. Wow, that was that was pretty immediate
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: pressure there on that play. And last year, like the
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: defense was really kind of aggressive early on during aggressive, Yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: you know, you can get a feel.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Do you guys remember anything with Matt Light his rookie year,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: second round pick ended up starting as a left tackle.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, was that a big position? A question? Was
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: he kind of penciled in as the starter?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: I don't remember ever.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: I wasn't. He was actually started on the right side
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: and starting in the game, but he started as a
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: right tack.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: And I don't remember ever back then it being a
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: concern like the offensive line didn't seem back then to
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: be this big concern like it is now. You know,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: maybe because you know you had bled cell for so.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: Long because we weren't we weren't sophisticated watching football as
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: we are now.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I do wonder at what point, And I think
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: this is an old Belichick thing too, is if we
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: get out there and trading camp and it's so clear
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: that Drake May is the better quarterback, but maybe it's
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: not what's best for him to throw him to into
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: the fire week one, but he gives the team the
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: best chance to win.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: And how do you kind of balance those two things?
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: Cause then you get into the point where a lot
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: of the players on the team are like, well we will,
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: you know, we want to win, Like why why aren't
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: we paying the better guy, even though maybe for the
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: ten year plan with Drake May it might be better
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: for him so to sit for a while.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: So you're saying, it's it's clear that he's the best quarterback,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: but you're saying it may not be the best thing
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: for him to throw him in there. Why wouldn't it be.
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: I just think that there's benefits to sitting for any quarterback.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: Like you hear things stories out of Kansas City that
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes was better than Alex Smith pretty much right
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: away his rookie year. But they felt like al you know,
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes still had a lot of mechanical things to
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: work on and some you know, translations from the air
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: raid system into the pro style system and like just
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: little things you know like that, and it just it
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: might be better for him even though Drake make a
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: go out there and make you know, some throws at
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: Jacollie Brissett just can't possibly make from a totaltality standpoint,
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: you know, the whole picture, it might be better to
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: just slow roll in.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: If Alex Smith wasn't a playoff quarterback at the time,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: which he was, would they have thought the same, like
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: what if their back?
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of like, there's a lot of argument
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: you can make both sides, and the fact is you
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: don't have an answer because you don't know what what.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: Like I've often railed to get because I get an
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: argument with Felger all the time because Felger is a
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: green Bay fan and green Bay shits their quarterback. So
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: that's the only way to do it, says because you
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: have Brett Farmer, and you have but that's the only
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: way to do it. No one else has ever developed
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: without doing it that way. That so says Felger. In
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: that way, it is fact. I would argue that maybe
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Kansas City would have won another title if Mahomes played
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: as a rookie. Maybe he would have been ready to
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: not have a slow first half in the AFC Championship
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: game the next year because he would have had that
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: much more experience, or maybe even in seventeen, because the
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: one game he played in seventeen was vastly better than
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: anything else they did the rest of the year. So
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: I don't have that. I don't have anything to say
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: that that's right or wrong. It didn't happen, So I
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: can just do the Felger thing and say, well, you know,
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have been good if he played right away. Fact, well,
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: he didn't play right away, so we never know. We
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: can't dispute that. You know, Peyton Manning had a long
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: talk late last week, I think about how much he
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: felt like he developed by throwing twenty eight interceptions as
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: a rookie.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: That was my point Mac Jones first year, why don't
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: they let him make mistakes?
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: They said, he figured out how much faster everything is
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: in the NFL, and he understood what he could do
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: and what he couldn't do, and by year two he
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: was thirteen and three.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I think for me too, it's just the whole unique
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: new nature of the offense, and there are just certain
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: things you can't know until you get into week one
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: and the bullets start flying, and you know, I just
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I look at valuable things of you know, find out
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: out who these Patriots actually are. What are we actually
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: even good at or bad at? What are they? You know,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: you go into that week one game, you don't really
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: know what the issues are, what other teams see in
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: your offense that they're gonna throw at you, and so
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you know, there's just a certain amount of experience I
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: think you could go through with Drake may as the
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: backup where you start to see the in game adjustments
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: that have to happen, how quickly you have to think,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: you know, on the fly. Going back to the McDaniels
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: thing we talked about with him, where it was if
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: he saw it once, you know, and even within that
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: last drive of Super Bowl thirty six, they talk about
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: a blitz that they sent at him. He didn't have
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: it picked up, he had to throw it away. They
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: ran it again, same thing, trying to get him backed up.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: He called the right protection, had it picked up, and
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: they were able to you know, go to Wiggy and
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: pick up some additional yards. So it's like, you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: those kind of things I think, are you know, to
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Paul's platt when you get to the end of that year,
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: You've got so much experience to kind of draw on
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: where you know, Tom had that whole rookie year where
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: he was you know, probably seeing things like that happen
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes of all right, this is what these
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: guys are throwing out. You know, we thought we were
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: going to get manned. You know, we're getting a lot
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: of zone today. We're gonna have to go to you know,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: more of these kind of plays, like you know, knowing
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: what kind of adjustments need to be made. I think
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: there's you know, value in that where you know, Drake
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: may might look like the more talented quarterback, but doesn't
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: necessarily mean you're going to get him into the game
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: and the results are going to be the same just
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: because Jacoby Brissett's been here, he understands, you know, what
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: other teams might throw at him, and you know, you
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: start to learn, like I said, more about the Patriots offense,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: and Jesus, we can't. We can't. We have no left tackle,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: you know, and that like that changes things if you
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: know after a couple of games that we can't block
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: anyone with speed up.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: So in other words, because because the Patriots offense, you know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: you could argue isn't really well established, Yeah, doesn't have
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: an identity. Let's see what that identity is before we
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: put the you know, as much as we can before
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: we put the quarterback in, so we know what we're
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: putting him into. Because right now, you're not really inserting
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: him into a like I said, a well established offense, right, you're.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Just throwing another variable and with a bunch of ab argument.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm not and I'm not saying pound the table
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: for that, but I think if you are airing on
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: the side of let's give him at least a few weeks,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: you know, at least like airing on Let's give us
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: a few weeks, right, Let's give us a few weeks
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: to decide and all of a sudden you realize, holy crap,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Jalen Polk's a really, really good player, and he's going
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: to help a young you know, like, let's start to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: get these two, you know, like those those kind of
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: things that might pop up good or bad that you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: have to deal with.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: But you have to make sure that you know you're
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: using Forssett the same way you plan on using Drake
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: may right, you.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Know, so it's kind of apples. I don't know, it's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: it's a tough one. It's a tough one.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Well that's why, like when Mike said, you know, pounding
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: the table like that was kind of the point that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: I'm making. I don't know how this topic, which to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: me is so like layered and varied. I don't know
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: how you can pound the table and say rookie quarterbacks
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: must start in Week one, or rookie quarterbacks absolutely should
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: not play their rookie year. I don't know how you
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: can make it like just such a definitive declaration either way.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: I think every guy is different. I think every situation
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: is different. You guys talked about all the different variables
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: with personnel. Personally, if I got to the point where
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: I was drawd Mayo or when I'm watching every day
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: in training camp and it's apparent that Drake may is
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: already at a level that's better than Pressett, I would
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: play him. But I understand if they don't do that, Like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not telling you that they're making a mistake by
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: not playing him. That's what people are going to do
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: either way. If he plays, people are going to say
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: it's a mistake. If he doesn't play, people are going
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: to say it's a mistake. I think it's what.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: Dude, I think you summed it up perfectly with the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: McDaniels stuff. It's like, mentally, he's got to be able
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: to process the game at a good enough level that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: you're not really risking him, you know, in terms of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: the mental aspects of it, because I have no doubt
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: that he is going to be the most talented quarterback.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: If this was going off of throws and to ability,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: then it's not even a right conversation.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: But if he's not going to be able to, you know,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: see pressure, or he's not going to be able to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: see rotations or man's own this, that or the other thing,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: and you're gonna mistake after a mistake after mistake. That's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: when you start to get into the confidence and all that.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: That's when I would say, yes, he should sit.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: But but you know, I know Peyton Manning.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: It's not fair to compare anyone to him, you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: in his rookie season, but he made a ton of mistakes.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: He had more interceptions than he had touchdowns.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: And it's still the record, right.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: It didn't hurt him. It helped him. It helped him.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: He said that. And I also thought in that whole
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: thing it was sort of underrated. He talked about Eli.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: Did you see the rest of this? No, so he
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: talked about about Eli and Eli because Eli sat like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: the first I don't know whatever six eight games of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: his rookie year, and then he eventually played, and he said,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: and talk to Eli. He said he learned more in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: the handful of games that he played. He learned nothing
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: watching now, Patriots fans will snicker and say that's because
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: he's a moron. Whatever. He felt like he learned something
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: playing that he couldn't from the sideline. It's it's yeah,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: it's all individual, it's case by case.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: I obviously it was not very old and Peyton Manning
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: broke into the league but from what I understand, he
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: was a much more polished prospect than Drake May was.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I would say that that's it.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and I definitely Eli was. I mean Eli
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: was like the prodigy, you know, like he was.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: That's fair.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 12: But so my.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Secondary point with Manning is if he's going to make mistakes,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: any quarterback is going to make, like you need to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: expect the guy to make mistakes and don't be afraid
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: of that, you know, figure out why he's making mistakes.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: I think evans point, though, is the right one that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: we all, I think agree with. If we're watching training
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: camp and you know there's a you know those plays
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: Fred with quarterbacks just running around, you know, it's like
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: this guy came free over here and he just ran
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: out the other side, and it's a you know, it
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: just doesn't look right. How many times I say that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: looked like a Patriots play right, you know, and unfortunately
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: less and less frequently the last couple of years in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: training camp. But if that's what you're seeing every day
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: of training camp, that's an indication that what Evan's saying
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: is probably true. It's going too fast for him. He's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: not deciphering, he's not figuring out what the defense is
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: doing fast enough. Doesn't do him any good to be
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: playing and get killed.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, the biggest difference we see, you know, and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: obviously it was Tom Brady, but whenever they put in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: whoever was the other quarterbacks, they'd hold the ball. They
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: didn't get rid of the ball, you know, because they
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: were unsure of themselves or unsure of the play or whatever.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: And that was everybody, Yes, everybody, Garoppolo, Mallet, Rohan Davi.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: It's talent.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Chico from North Carolina coming from North Carolina for the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: week of Tom's Hall of Fame induction. Wondering if there
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: was any team activities open to the public that week.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: No, Yes, Game three, Yeah, Celtics at Dallas.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing, Patriots.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: May the public stuff for the Patriots doesn't start until July.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: End of July with training camp. So I just want
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: to let him know. M what's this THEO. I don't
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: know the veracity of this. I guess I missed this,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: but how do you guys feel about the Patriots bringing
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: in Bob Cronenberg as a new assistant director of pro Scouting.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I just I just saw the tweet over the weekend
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: that they had that they had brought him in another
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of experienced guy for the front office.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know a lot about him, but.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: I assume Wolf wanted to bring him in.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Never heard that name once in my life. So I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: possibly give you any analysis? Yep, So Tony the anti
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: sports Hub take and just say, I don't know who
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: that is. So I can't give you, but I like it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I like it. Would I hate it?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: Tony and Ottawa lifelong Patriots fan but never been to
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: a game. Looking to plan my first trip to Massachusetts
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: this fall.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: We should go to go to what's the sponsor?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: The Massachusetts Massachusetts Department of Tourism and.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah something, go to that, Yeah, go to go
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: to the What do you guys?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: What are your master suggestions for the perfect Patriots game weekend?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Should I stay in Boston or Foxboro? Pre postgame restaurants
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: or bars other musts in the area.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Well, if you've never been to Boston, I mean you should.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: You should go to the city. Yeah, yeah, it's uh,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: it's pretty easy to get out if you can get
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: a seat on the train.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: If you're not leaving Sunday night, then you stay in
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Boston you take the train in uh and and do
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: it that way and then enjoy Boston like that Saturday
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: and yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Do the Freedom Trail and uh get some ice cream,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: don't You'll get something to eat the North End. Do
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: something that's good.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: Go to the North End.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: Go.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: I would say that either go to Mother Anda's or
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: Reginas you want pizza. To Reginas you want palm. Go
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: to mother Anna's right there on the corner.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: You can sit outside mother Is it Mother Anna? Yeah,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: right on the tough one.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: It's pronounced pizza time.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: Thank you. It's a little step above you. No further questions.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: Don't go don't go to Straga. Okay, so that don't
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: go there.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: That that's not a tourist trap. Not the real thing
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: to advice. Yes, we're freaking north Enders.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: And if you're if you want to come to Patriot Place,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: there's a ton of restaurants here. What you know, Italian,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: there's steak, there's see fast food, Seafoodskip Jacks.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's plenty, plenty of options here a Patriot Place.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: You're a dining pleasure.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: So what's to do?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame if it's open on the day
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: before the game on Saturday, not off Andre and New Jersey,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Paul said the Celtics will handle the Mavericks with ease.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Do you want to take those words back now? After
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: seeing how Luca and Kyrie are playing, No could go
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: either way with these teams. It would be cool to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: see the Celtics get banner eighteen. But I'm a huge
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Luka Doncik fan and love to see him get his
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: first ring now.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: I like Luka Donciic a lot. I think he's a
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: really good player. I think the Celtics are vastly superior
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: talent wise.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Now, random offseason question one. How do you like your
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: hot dogs?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Cook?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Grilled, boiled, air, fried, flat top, or just being a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: lazy acid putting it in the microwave?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Grilled?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, grilled is the best.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's steamed.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: Do you put the ketchup on the bun or on
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: the dog?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: No, here's how you do it.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: You don't put ketchup on it at all.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: So you question got the dog on the whatever you do,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: whether it's the mustard, whether it's the mustard of the ketchup,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: You've got the dog in the bun, you put your
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: topping on it. Then you twist the dog. You twist
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: the dog in the bone, twist it.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I've just come to the realization that Fred is to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: food as Evan is to film. Here's where you went
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: with Now.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: The problem with that is when you get into the relishes,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: they don't twist so well. They kind of stay on
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: the top. But what ketch up a mustard? You put
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: it on and then you twist the dog.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 13: I like that.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: It's pretty common.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: That's a good that's a good suggestion.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: This is a big debate now the only real way
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: to eat a hot dog is mustard and sour kroud. Sure,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: but up in New England they don't have a lot
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: of sour crowd.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: You know, it's not This is a big discussion on
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: the Twitter sphere. Is like the right way to to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: put condiments on a hot dog? Here you go, drizz
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: a right on the dog? Do you put it on
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: the bun? Fred's technique, you know all the different ways
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: It the dog.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: When you think about it, it's really a warm, blooney
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: sandwich kind of true.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna miss that banter this year.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: Question two, if you could be in a movie with
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: one hot actress. Would it be from this list? Any Hathaway,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Natalie Portman or a young or old samahayak me too.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: Young, old, don't matter. Definitely not an.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: She looked too much like my girls Star Wars like
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Natalie Right, Yeah, she's fine.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, Natalie Portman.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: As the Star Wars. Have you seen Acolyte yet?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 13: No?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: Hasn't? Has it come out? No?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: No, that's right. Oh, by the way, so furios too.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: That was excellent. That was excellent.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: That's fun. That's fun.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: I think he'll never get nominated, but I think Chris
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: Hemsworth is he should get nominated.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I think his performance was terrible. It did bad in
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: the box terrible.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Memorial Day weekends, thirty million people don't go to the movie.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: All the weather was so nice, but I.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Know, well we went yesterday and it was kind of crummy,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: and there were still probably seven people in the theater
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: and we saw it in Imax, I mean seven people.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: I got a whole theory about this, though, I mean,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: if I can spit it out now, movie theaters have
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: to evolve, you cannot. There cannot just be hey, we
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: should new movies now. They need to have all movies
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: and you need to be able to go and if
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: I want to go see Avengers, you should be. There
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: should be a movie theater for that where it suits
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: the big field, like shoots the big screen. Like why
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: why are you only showing new movies? I mean Furios
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: or what's the movie the Fall Guy was in for
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: like a week and now it's out? Like how why
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: can't these companies why can't they screen great, big, big
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: screen action movies that they but all the time, all
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: What do you mean exactly?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not fine movie theaters only show new movies. They
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: got to stop that, go back and show they have
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: to always, always, always have a slate of awesome historical
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: action whatever movies that suit on the big screen, on
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: the big screen that suits I'd go to job well
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: maybe jows but for me, but but I mean Avengers
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: all you know, like you're telling me that if they've
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: had the original Avengers up released on I actually wouldn't
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: have made it.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: You know what they should do is they should they
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: should I think you're onto something, but they should make
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: it in an event just the movie, but you get
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: a T shirt or you get something.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: They do that for Josh and I've done this.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh you could do you know, package them
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: and hey, we're gonna do a night. Like I think
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: that the model of just we get a new movie
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks and we screen it here,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: like you have this humongous screen. You're telling them, like Matt,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: how many movies are there right now in the Avengers
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: universe that they were out and available to you, Like, oh,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Civil War, I want to go see that on the bah.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I want to take my kid to see that. I
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: want to take my kid to see Star Wars. Like
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: they have to get away from this model where they
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: just have only new release movies for a couple of weeks.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: They're all going to go under. I mean, this is
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: the way they're gonna have to attack. I feel like
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: if a movie like furios I went to Furiosa.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Now it was a beautiful day and it was two
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: fifteen shows, so it was me and one other couple and.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: The whole thing.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: That's amazing.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Did you look over halfway? Like pretty good?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: So I've always wondered how these places can stay open,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: like Fred just said, two point fifteen on a beautiful day,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: Like you know, cut costs and just be open, you know,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: during peak hours.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I was brainy, but eleven thirty
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: on an Imax on a brand new release of Mortal
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: the weekend, like seven people.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: I just it is sad that movie theaters are getting
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: like movie theaters can go out of business, right, There's.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: No way that they're I don't think that. I don't
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: think your plan is going to save that.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know what else.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know what else could save them.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: But I think Paul's idea is probably the best idea,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: which is cut It's not open all the day, so
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: you have to cut down the hours, and then you
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: maximize the raising the demand the foot traffic on the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: times that you are actually I wonder.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Though, if it's kind of an agreement with the studios
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: that they have to show it a certain amount of times.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but you can always change that.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Think number of screens, I mean, certainly one of them.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: I definitely want to see Firiosa. I'm probably just gonna wait,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: like I'm not going to go. I'm not going to go.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: And like the last movie I saw in the big
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: screen was was Top Gun Maverick, which was like I'm
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: I was like, I'm going to this movie nine percent.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 6: That's the last movie I saw on the big screen,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: and that was worth it because of all the noise.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Is that opening scene of talk on Maverick in the theaters.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: I was, it's the first movie everybody.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: So it was amazing, right, right. I saw Dune two,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: I mean that was great. Yeah, both worth seeing. But
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: these are certain movies that, like, you know, nobody's going
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: to see the indie movie on the big screen.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 14: Like that's dead, Like yeah, I used to sell for
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 14: four people who go see that indie movie, you know.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: I mean that Fall Guy movie. I mean it's already
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: going to streaming. It's crazy. I mean they so much promotion.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: It's Ryan Gosling. I mean two actors from the biggest
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: movies last year that were both nominated and now you know,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: a fun family.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: But that is but that's to me, is not that
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: is a Netflix movie like Fall Guys.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: It's it's a rom com, right, it's a remake. But
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: Furiosa should be a movie theater experience.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: It should be And I'm surprised, like did the first
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: one do well? Yeah?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Fury Road yeah yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm surprised because like, I went to this one
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: because I loved the one before.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's been a while while though.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's part of it too, is it.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: You know, it takes a lot to make a movie
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: like that, and then it's years later and you know,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Great take, great take. I was thoroughly uh entertained me too,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: Ian in England. I wanted to write in with a
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: roast of each of you, but after a reread, the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: whole thing simply came across as character assassination of poor Evan. Instead,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: I wanted to simply share how much I've enjoyed listening
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: to you since the end of the eight season. For me,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: the peak of the show was when Fred was trying
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: to remember the name George Gottshe but couldn't, and all
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: he could do was say in his Jimmy Stewart voice
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: over and over again until someone guessed who the hell
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: he was talking about, Probably Paul.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: I'm laughing because I remember this stupid nonsense. So he
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: used to call George Gotzy and the.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: George George, and I don't know why, because because it
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: was George George Bailey, it wasn't George got. It was
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: enough for me to draw the comparison. So you had
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: to see it's a wonderful life to know what I'm
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: talking about.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: Of course, a show a movie from there, you know.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: There you go, Christmas event, wonderful life in the movie theaters, right,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: You just don't think you're staying in business with that. No, Yeah,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: we have a little bit of patriots breaking hop.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: Drake may now under contracts a rookie deal.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: There you go, it's big big five of eight may.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: Gonna be my That's it.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: That's all I got, not July predicted.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Let's see being fresnow. A few random things. One, keep
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: ignoring the yahoos in the YouTube chat. There are a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: bunch of angry little elves.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: Do we need to get that open on the show
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: so we can see the angry little else what they're saying?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: I don't see?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Fred, can we bring back the Jackie UK grunting
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: drop Jackie UK?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's who she used to work here? Is
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: that who we're talking about?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: Jackackie?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackie Britton?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: What does that have to do with the UK?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Britain?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: UK? Sorry? John Down a plane I don't know.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Before Matt's time, I guess.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: And which gf wers, What did you say that was
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: the one Jackie drop I found?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember that in which p f W
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: personnel of old would have clashed most with Evan, Brian Moury,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: Low t Rex or.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: He who shall not be named bingo Ce. Oh yeah,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: they would have gone at it would have clashed most
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: with anybody who's ever been on this show.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Really, that's weird because you built Mori up is like
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: the c S. I know what I'm saying. You bill
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Mori up to be like the old some final boss
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: of arguments that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: Like, No, he was tough to argue with, but Brian's
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: a good person. There's the difference, right that.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Changes, that changes the rules of the game.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: He's tough to argue with, but he's a really good guy.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Johnny and Madtown.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: I just went to see The Matrix and the Dark
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: Knight back on the big screen and the theaters were
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: three quarters full.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: At least.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: Spider Man films have been bat Spider Man films have
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: been back, and the older ones were competing with the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: new releases.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: In the box office. Nice Deus Is onto some.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: They Phantom Menace did Crazy Number.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know why I would doubt
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: the Hollywood game.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot, but you'd have to find,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: you know, the right movies. But I just yeah, like
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: I said, I just think of math.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: There's certain movies that aj in the Bury area from Providence.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: You know what they ought to show in the movie theaters.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: If they can figure it out, they should host live
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: football games on the big screen. It would almost be
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: like watching it from the stands of the stadium. There
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: might be so red tape to cut through to make
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: it possible, but instant revival to the movie theater industry,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: it would be bad. You serve beer, you know, you
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: make it like you're in the stadium and you're in
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: a bunch of fans.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: It would probably work. I know that's they do it
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: all over the country and the playoffs. They open their
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: their arenas and people go. I just don't have any
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: idea how I think the best track.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: And this is speaking of somebody that is currently engaged
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: to somebody that doesn't like going to the movies. It's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: the date night thing that they have to get back
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: on right, Like it has to be like this is
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: you know they did it with the seats, Like the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: seats were like that was a big step. Alcohol food
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: that you could order like to you know like that.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: I think like going and upgrading the luxury even more
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: of like making it an experience where you're paying for
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: something and you're actually getting an experience out of it.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: Is because I can't convince just to go to a
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: movie with me ever, Like she just doesn't like like
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: it's just not a hobby of hers that she likes.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: She likes to watch movies like Netflix. She's not a
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: big movie person.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: But if I'm like like Top Gun Maverick, if I'm
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: like I need to see this movie, then like maybe
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: she would go with me, but only for the we.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Went to like one of those like yes, yeah, to
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: get to get her drunk before she'd hang out.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: With Troger.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: Ellen Wisconsin. Mike is totally right. There just aren't enough
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: movies that justify the big screen.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: The next one.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to Interstellar coming back this fall. Nobody
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: is going to get my money until then because it's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: not worth it. So what it's coming back re released?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: I guess that was a good movie.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so thought provoking, that's it. I wonder if the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: problem was Hollywood just what they're producing.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: The writers strike did push everything back. So now we're
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: just starting to get you know, more movies.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: But I just wonder if there's just not a lot
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: of good news stuff coming out, so you have to
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: go back to the mic theory.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, which in a way is exactly what they're
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: doing anyway, which the only movies that get made are
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: already made titles or sequels or you know, big tempole
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: things like that's why I don't go.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll come to nothing really new that ever comes out.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Because you had COVID followed by the writer strikes. So
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there is a backlog there is movies.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: Well well, I mean it's I mean, even when I
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: was out there a little bit, just they're they're backed
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: up and they haven't really started going again like they
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: had before. I mean, there's I think I saw something
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: that's like survived till twenty five is like one of
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: these little quotes going around in Hollywood circles for the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: creative types trying to get jobs right now because production
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: has not ramped back up like it was before the strike.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: So but it's it is. I mean, it's you know,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: streaming was great, and I mean a lot of people
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: that like we worked with that wanted to write movies
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: wanted to go write TV because there's a lot more
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: creative freedom instead of all right, well you're gonna have
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: to write the next Avengers movie. And that's you know,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of you know, creative artists that they don't
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: you know, that's to them, isn't you know creative? They
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: want to you know, create characters you're with for one
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: hundred episodes now, and it's, uh, it's hard. I don't
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: know what the answer was with movies, but it was
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: dying when I was out there, and it's I mean,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: you hear everybody talking in here. It's there are certain
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: movies that you're like, I want to go to see
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: it on the big stream for the spectacle, but a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: lot of other movies that are just you know, basic
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: rom com kind of stuff that it's like, it's not
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: even worth it.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: Well, I would say it makes a lot of sense though,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: you know about that stuff. And can we look forward
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: to any projects that.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: You might have No I gave on the back No,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: they are definitely none of mine in the backlog.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I ra and a half men on the screen.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: I will say, I think I've mentioned it once or toy.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: There was one project that we were working on and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: it's not me, it was you know, my company, but
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: that I thought was awesome called Pump That was based
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: on Schwarzenegger's kind of take on being a baldy bodybuilder
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: in Venice in the seventies, and it was a great
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: drama of all these different kind of bodybuilder types that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: you know, loosely based on him, not directly on Schwartz
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: and Aggor. But that was one of my favorite projects
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: we had developed.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: In different than Pumping Iron.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: Well, Pumping Iron was right well, Pumping Iron was the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: documentary of it, which is, you know, really funny if
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen that, I mean it's almost yeah, well
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: it's all about getting into you know, the steroids coming
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: around and really well yeah, well it was Gold's gym,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: you know, when it all started to really blow up
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: and those guys all became but you know, it was
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: it was great. It's just a great drama. They're all
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: on drugs, they've all got girl, you know it This
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: is a really cool bunch of meatheads walking around Vennis.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: It was a good script, but that's the only one
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: I could tell you that the left over the.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the other thing that's hurting the movie
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: theater is the home experience is just so much better.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can get a sixty five inch screen.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: For around hundreds of dollars for you know, and yeah,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: and you're at home and it looks good and it
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: sounds good, and you know, you have these streaming services,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: like you said, you're getting quality content on your TV.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: That doesn't even go to.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: The thing that's the other part, Like Mike you said that,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: like production hasn't really ramped up yet back to pre
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: COVID levels. And I was watching that. There was a
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: documentary on Steve Martin. I don't know if you've seen this.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: It's on Apple. I haven't Apple Plus it's different. But
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: one of the things in the middle of it, like
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: Steve Martin's talking about when he was sort of growing
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: up and getting into the business, people would be like, oh,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: that guy's on television. Oh look at him, he's on television.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: But if someone walked in that was in movies, right,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: it was like whoa, Yep, it's not like that anymore. No,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: it's kind of the same, if not sort of turning
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: the other way.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Everything's changed.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: I mean a musical group would never have their music
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: associated with a TV commercial.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Now they all, yeah, sure, it's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: That was my other question for Deuce about because he's
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: mister Hollywood, he knows all the insights here.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: Doctor.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: Movie stars doing TV had to have changed everything too,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: Like Steve Martin only Murders in the Building is a
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: great show, and he's in that show with Martin Short
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: and like big movie stars are now, Yeah, doing.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: These voice is just so annoying.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: It isn't annoying voice. But she's really good on that show.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: I watched the first season.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: It's really good. It was good.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: I I only cared about Martin Short though he was
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: the only character that he's interested.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: He is really funny.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: Well, so for the actors. Usually a lot of times
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: it's a more favorable schedule. You're not going for six
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: months to some forem location to shoot something.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Again, creatively, you're exploring a character that.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: You're gonna wife.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Steve Martin says, yeah, you're gonna have the writing and yeah,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: producing ups and downs where I mean movies are super
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: formalaic and you as an actor, I mean, yeah, you
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: get to be in big stuff and it's fun, but
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: if you really want to get into like dramatic character
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: building and you know, exploring a care I mean, like,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: you know, just like I always get the mayor of
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: east Ham, east Town, but Kate went Town, like Kate
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: Winslet in that in that show, right, Like, I mean,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: she was amazing, It was awesome, you know, and that
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: was you know, you go from her doing big movies
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: to to really a cool character that you know, that's
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: the kind of stuff that I think is more appealing
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: now to the character.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: Definitely seems like it allows you to like almost flex
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: how good of an actor you are even more because
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: you're developing the character over stronger periods of time. So
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: it's like, you know, you start to really identify. You know,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: a lot of these movie actors, I feel like I
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: start to identify with the TV shows that they're in,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: not the not the movies that they've been in, even
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: if the movies were Oscar winning movies.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Fred, You're always good for a suggestion in the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: streaming services, Do you have any non non CG I
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: blow up the screen genre. What do you mean anything superhero?
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: I watch a lot of.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: Watch Do you watch the Ashley Madison documentary?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: So I have a lot of people that have suggested
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: that to me. We were talking about it on Sunday
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: with my family and that's definitely on my list. I
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: want to see it. I think it's I asked if
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: my name came up, it's.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: A few years old.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: My mother las, yeah, it said pap Parilla that it
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: says denies being involved.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: If my mother shot me this, look, I go, I'm skidding.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: It's a few years old now. And I think I
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: mentioned on this show. But one of the best once
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: in series on streaming that I saw was.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Mayor of East Town.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: That was really good and it had probably one of
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: the most perfect finales, you know, because usually no one's
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: happy with the finale. I thought the finale of this
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: series was was perfect.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more with Fred. I thought it was
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: really good.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hacks is new Hacks season out? Do you watch Hacks? Right?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: Do you watch that?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: Do not watch has?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: What is suits about?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: Suits?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: Really? Lawyers? Okay?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Because they have that T mobile commercial now and I
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: guess it's the two guys from Suits, because I don't
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: know what they're doing.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Are they in a truck? And I don't know why
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: they're doing it? Commercial?
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: The scrubs guys. No, No, that's another one the Suits.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: So Suits is releasing a spin off series about something.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Jess were obviously.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: Lawyers big into Suits when it came out, and she
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: told me that they're they're doing some sort of spin
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: off series, so I think they're trying to get themselves
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: back into the into the Have you seen.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: The commercial I'm talking about? It's the two I guess
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: two guys from Suits. I've never seen it, and it
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: looks like they're in a truck and they're doing a
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: t mobile commercial and they're acting like really silly.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know that's sorry, Like who are these guys?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know who they are. I don't know why.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: I've never seen Suits. But everybody who has a lot, yeah,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: glowingly about it. I've never watched it.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Everybody who's watching their series, you gotta see that.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: It's so frustrating.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: Well do you ever like get into a series and
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: then you're like, I don't really love this, But yeah,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: I've seen four. I got to finish it.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: That was me with Sons of Anarchy. I love, I
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: love Sons of Anarchy, but it went on a little
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: bit too long in my opinion.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: It was a big Moose and Glenn show. I love.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: I had to get to you have to figure out
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 6: the ending, right, So once you're committed, you're committed walking dead.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: I gave up on I gave up on.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Monking did too. But I thought for me, I thought
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Sons of Anarchy was was they kept it going to
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: the end.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: I mean it's dark, it's a good dark.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: But consistently they season after season, great finale. You know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: it's so simple. It's like they get into a huge
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: twist and you don't know how they're gonna get out
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: of it, and they somehow creatively do every time it
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: was it was good.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: I really like that.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, it's a good show. I've been watching Under
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: the Bridge. I think there's like one more that that
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: hasn't come out yet. I think that's for the first season.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: It's pretty good, pretty interesting. Alright.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 14: So this T Mobile commercial threads Mobile, Yeah, they are
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 14: doing like their warm ups in the joke is they're
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 14: auditioning to be T Mobile employees in this commercial. And
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 14: but all the warm ups getting ready for this commercial
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 14: audition are things they do in the show to get
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 14: ready for a case or a trial.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's how it comes. And that's what they do
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: in suits.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: That's what they're being.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Are they in a truck?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 14: They are they're in like eighteen wheel or audition room.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 14: It's like a trailer bed they're using for an audition room.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: It looks like okay, all right, never know, I guess
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: so I probably didn't get it because I didn't watch suits,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: so I didn't know these two guys running suits.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: I like the T mobile commercial about the price lock,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: the price log. It's not a price luck. It's funny.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Do you see that.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: The old guy it starts out in a therapy session
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: and he's having a hard time because other carriers say
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: they have a price lock, but they changed the price.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: It's not a price lock. I know a lock.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: It's not a lock.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: Do you know anybody who has T Mobile? No, I'm like, yeah,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: but I know that at and two horizon that's pretty much.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: I think drug dealers use it.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: And you know this because I was a high schooler.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: Once, But I like the I like the carrier commercials.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: You know, if you come and we'll give you a
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: free phone and a tablet to watch. It's not Apple,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: I don't care. You know, nobody wants your pebble.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: It's also not free. They end up charging you a
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: service charge for it.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Well, Ryan Reynold's like a billionaire off a mint Mobile now, right,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Like he was like, it's just gonna be yeah, he
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: did well. He just instead of like just being a
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: pitch man, He's like, what if I just bought the company.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: I was gonna I was gonna sell Paul and welcome direction.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: But then I remember soccer and that's probably not gonna
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: be up as allis though. Yeah, but the show itself
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: is obviously not about soccer. Really, it's about right.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: It's like ted Lasso. It's not really about that, but
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: it's well, but.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: It's real like it. It's a real ted Lasso. It's
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: a documentary version of ted Lasso.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: Jordan in Hawaii writes in speaking of content watching, I
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: know you're talking about movies, but are any of you
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: big YouTube watchers any type of content you like on there?
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: Or creatives as they're referred to on that platform. I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: myself am a huge YouTube fan. Additionally, I wanted to
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: comment on the streaming conversation from last week. Nobody does
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: streaming as good as the Masters app. It's perfect, free
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: to watch, free to enjoy.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Just have to watch.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Ads can live track every player on the leaderboard and
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: see all their shots. They can play a few free
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: version of fantasy. Pick your players for a chance that
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: some great masters swag packages.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: All right, Okay, I do like YouTube for random stuff.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: You know, it's always if you get interested in a.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 5: Random topicginal content.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they have now they there's people like TV. No,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: but just people call creators that are making big, big money.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, but I'm talking about shows. Oh like yeah,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: like Netflix?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: You know Apple, do they have original series? Original?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: Not a lot, not a lot, but I think there
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: are some. There's some YouTube TV.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: Didn't know. I know there is a YouTube TV.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: And if they had original content, wasn't the Karate Kid
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: remake originally YouTube?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one, you might be right, yeah, yeah,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: it was then moved to Netflix.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, I use YouTube to find out
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: how to do stuff.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I use it. Yeah, that's that's a
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: good one. I've been watching. I've been watching this Jazz
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: of Session podcast though I'm still going on that thing,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: and I have a lot of a ticket now.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: Is there's there's still new things that come out fifty
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: years old at some point.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't stop watch because it's a guy's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: got like ninety episodes and like he'll go into like
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: so much detail on like the littlest minute, and I
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: can't stop.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: So it used to be, you know, we worried about
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: our you know, holiday roast on July fourth, and like
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: what would you have right now? We're gonna lose July
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: fourth because we're gonna be in training camp. So it's
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: not really.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: But you know, with all this content, it's tough to
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  Speaker 2: Of the New England Patriots.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: So there you go, There you go, Tony writes in
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: streaming suggestions for Paul both on Amazon Fallout and Mister
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: and Missus Smith both great shows. For Deuce Hacks is
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: great and Fred get pumped up for another season of
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: the Boys.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for that fell out of the Boys.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: I should go back to that.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: Did you see gen z? No was good?
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: I watched like the first two seasons of the Boys,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: and then per Matt's request, he loves it.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: I liked it.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: I liked it.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of TV coming back and over the summer.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's like, how do you know it's like.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: Action movie stuff, futuristic video games.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, check check that one off my list.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: I have no interest in mister MSUs Smith either. Yeah,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: I literally it's not that.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: And you do not like action because I like action pumping.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: I like to be excited.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: I've said this to a million times, Like die Hard,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: it's a great action movie.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: I don't like superhero action movies for the most part.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you don't like things that take you out
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: of reality?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would much rather watch like a typical
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: like Spider Man or Superman movie than I would like
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: a futuristic kind of you know, a post apocalyptic thing
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: like that. That's ye, I'm not Matt knows me, well,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: that's the stuff I'm really out on. But like I've
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: seen plenty of the superhero movies and something like, I've
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: never seen one that I said, my god, that was terrible.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: Like they're all entertaining for what they are. Three they're
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: just not my thing, you know what I mean? Like
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: you you guys would like Matt.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 7: It wasn't the movie coming off my tongue, but I agree.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: Matt would go across the street, you know, to watch
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: the midnight showing of whatever the latest hit, you know
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: what I mean. Whereas you know, if I happen to
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: be scrolling around, like on a rainy Monday Memorial Day yesterday,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: and I stumbled upon like Batman versus Superman, which I
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: may or may not have done, I'd watch him and
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: I was thoroughly entertained. I had actually seen that in
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: the movies with the kids.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: I got a bad vibe about the acolyte Fred. I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: don't know, Oh yeah, why it's looking a little too
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: polishy Disney. Just I don't know, there's just like, you know,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: what I always love about Star Wars was like it
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: felt and I think George Lucas said, like the world
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: always kind of feels lived in, and like I felt
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: like that with The Man Lord and then this new one.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: It's just I don't know, it just seems too clean.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: It seems like we're getting to a point now where
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: they're just starting to pump Star Wars theories out and
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: then everybody's you know, kind of happy, and I got
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: a bad vibe.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it, but I got kind of a different vibe.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: But you know, now, granted I only saw what I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: you know, the trailer on TV, but me too, it
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: seemed more of an adultsh type of series, like the
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: Rogue series rather than Mandalorian or the other one.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: I hope, I hope. So I don't know, I just
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: I know, on like a level of I don't expect
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: it to be like violent, but I need like a
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: level of grittiness and real real to the Star Wars stuff.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Star Wars was gritty like the original Star Wars.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: Was, you know, the Millennium Falcon was like a piece
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: of crap, you know, I mean that type of grit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: that's what you know, Like the world fills, you know,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: kind of dirty and lived in a little bit.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: Not like a sand Yeah, and everybody, all these jets
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: are all clean.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: And I guess they got a lightsaber whip.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: It's like every time we got a new one where oh,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: by the way, they also came up with a lightsaber cannon,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: Like every time there has to be something new or else.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: Why would we do understand?
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: Like how did like saber whip would be a practical weapon,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: Like it looks cool, but I don't like So you're
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: you're winding the thing up and he's got an actual
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: lightsaber and now your arms cut off, Like I never.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: Talk to.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 12: You.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: Got some concerns you're away with the whip if you're
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: losing deuce.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Mat that's just shaking his head of me.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: I'll watch it, but I'm just saying.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think you're in trouble about it. I just
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: think it's too much, too much.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 7: I feel like Disney's starting to forget that there were
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: once male.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 8: Jedi is.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: There'll be nothing. You'll get nothing like it.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: That's a fair point.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: Harry's in Connecticut. What's up, Harry? They all going, guys will.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 13: Get a good memorial that weekend. Pretty clear. It's slow,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 13: uh slow news week. But I got a question to
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 13: kind of go along with thee you guys are talking about.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 13: I want you guys to to rank these places to
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 13: watch a football game. And the number one is on
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 13: your couch for his repliner. Number two would be at
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 13: a sports bar. Number three is at your friend's house
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 13: at like a watch part or something. And number four
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 13: is at the stadium but not doing your jobs, just
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 13: actually watching the game.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: The last time I watched a game in a stadium
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: not working was probably.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: In the late eighties. This is a football game specific, yeah,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: or early nineties. Yeah, yeah, yeah, even for me.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: It's the last game I watched as a fan was
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: Broncos Patriots regular season twenty four to three comeback.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the last ninety eight would be.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So of all those, what's your favorite.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: I'm intrigued by the friend's house, just because.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: I would put Friend's house one.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: Thanks Harry.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: I don't you don't have to clean up, you know,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: it's kind of everything's there for you. You can go
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: in stadium too. Yeah, I'd go in stadium one. Still,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: there's nothing like seeing any to me, any sporting event,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: but live is still. But what if they told you
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: you have to walk straight into the game that game
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: time and sit down at your seat and like, to
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: me so much going to the game.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: Is I know so much?
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: To me that like almost as time.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: But I think you have to include that.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's why I like. That's why I like it.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: It's the tailgate.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah I do.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: That's one too.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: The problem with the sports bar.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: It's good for like the first half hour, and then
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: you're kind of tired of being in the sports bar.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: You've eaten, you don't want to eat anymore. You're spending money.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: You don't want to take up the table if you're
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: not spendifying.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: If it's a game that I care about, I do
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: not want to watch it in the sports bar. I
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: don't mind going to watch like the NCAA playoffs. You know,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: a bunch of my friends will go out and we'll
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: go to you know, go to the street. There's nothing better, though,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 5: I don't care who wins. Yeah, there's nothing better though.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: When you're like in an airport and you're waiting for
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 5: your flight and like you have like a couple hours
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: and you walk into a full bar and like there's
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: a championship game on the NBA, and even if it's
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: like teams you don't care about, like people are into it.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: That's me and Evan in Indy like that. The combine
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: was still going on, so we just like se We're like,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: we got like three hours to kill and they're like, well,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: the combine's on.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: Billy Chappell had the perfect game going, and Kelly Preston
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: was waiting at the airport and the guy behind him
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 5: was rooting against them exactly.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: I know what.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: That's the kind of tension that the game.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, good movie. I I feel like going is still
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: number one to me.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: It always will be.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: I'm not a bar guy because then I feel stuck
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: because I'm somebody, especially if it's you know, a Boston
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 6: team that I want to watch every single second.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: Of the game.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: If I leave to go home, then I'm going to
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: miss part of the game trying to get home. So
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: then you're like stuck there for three hours and you
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: just there's no.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: Place you're not glued to. The TV, like you miss stuff. Yeah,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: when you're watching in a bar, if it's a game
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: that you really care about, you don't want to miss
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: one play.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: But but there's a lot of random people there for
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: you to share your gift with. You know, you can
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: tell them what's going on.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: That's a good shot. That was a good shot right there.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: The only thing that I do like about going to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 6: the bar though, is like if they win and it's
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 6: a playoff game or something like that, like the celebration
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: after the wind, Like you don't get that at home.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 6: Right at home, you just go to bed like it's okay,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: it's over.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: That was That was me super Bowl forty nine. It
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: was me and my in laws while my wife put
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: the baby to bed, and it was like me and
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: they're like, what's going on? And I'm like, you know,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: and then the the you know, the miracle catch happened
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, walk them pacing and they're like, are
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: they gonna lose?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: Shut up?
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: And lost?
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: Oh I did, But you know, I was on edge.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: I was on edge. I'm like, we gonna kid, We're
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: gonna lose this thing. And they're just kind of sitting
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: there like this is great.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 6: The poor dog Alice cannot handle playoff basketball dad. You know, like,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: I'm just like screaming at the TV, and he's jumping
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: and he's pacing like from room to room just to
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 6: try to get.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: Out of the way.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Dana, Virginia and Michigan Right on, Evan, die Hard is
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: not a Christmas movie, the same way that ace Ventura
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: is not a sports movie and the Sound of Music
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: is not a war movie.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know if I'm gonna go with ace
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 6: Ventura on you, but I die Hard not.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: So it's not a Christmas Yeah, I strongly disagree.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: It happens around Christmas, but it's not a Christmas all.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: It's not essentral Christmas. The Christmas brings him back with
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: one desperate attempt to win back as his wife right
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: at Christmas time.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: The only thing that makes it a Christmas movie is
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: that he says ho ho ho, Like that's it.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: It could be he could be coming. Theme is there
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: for you to see if you're just too ignorant.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: To I'm with Evan, it's not a Christmas It's not.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: A central theme. So was The Godfather? Elf is a
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: Christmas movie?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, Chris.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 5: Christmas VI undeniable. Those are Christmas movies like that. The
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: movie is about Christ could be different like levels no imagination.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: As a diehard fan and a Jew, it makes me
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 6: upset when we sit there and say that these are
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: all Christmas movies.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: Sorry, Bubby, I don't feel included.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: Tony's on the Cape. What's up to Hi?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: How you doing? All right?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: I was wondering with the upcoming Brady on Night.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: Is that going to be broadcast on TV?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: No, but it will be streamed live on Patriots dot
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: com and YouTube.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: That's the only place you'll be able to see it. Yeah,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: and the Patriots YouTube channel as well.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 12: There's a Patriots YouTube channel.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on YouTube the chat too.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie, Tony. That hurts a little. That
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: hurt a little. That's where Mike, Evan and Paul do
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: some of the best stuff for huge, huge deal.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you'll be able to watch it live on
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: those two platforms.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, thank you?
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 10: All right?
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: Thanks Tony Flippery.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: You're a bad person. Matt Morrell.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: Let's see, Mike says your Fred your computer is making
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: a noise every time you get an email. Yeah, I
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: just turned I just muted that. I hope that doesn't ye, Terrence, uh,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 4: says finestra row r w H. The whip Lightsaber is
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: cannon to the comics and is near the end of
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: the High Republic. So essentially this is the glossiness of
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: the Jedi Order, one hundred plus years of the grit
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: and you wonder I have no interest in it?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: All right, Okay, I see what he's getting at, though
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I will see you can disagree with no, no,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: well no, but I see he's saying like things haven't
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: started to fall apart yet, and well, yeah, that things
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: are a little bit more glad to see.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as you know what happened.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: The Empire took away all the weaponry, so you know,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: the only ones that had weapons were the Empire.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: And even like in the Phantom Menace, some of that
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: that earlier tech looked a lot cleaner, right, And it
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: was right because you know, before the before the docnents.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 8: I need to watch for the Empire.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen Phantom Menace a hundred times, but
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: this comeback of like, oh, actually it was good after
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 6: when it came out, every but you told me it
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: was terrible.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 14: Oh you had people stage telling you were terrible, and
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 14: now people our age and telling you the real truth.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 7: It was great.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: It is a bad movie though, people people. I loved
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: it as I was a kid.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I was what ninety eight, maybe I
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 6: was six seven years old, and it was like the
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 6: greatest thing I've ever seen. I watched every single day
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: and then but people told.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Me disputes are fine.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: People told me it was terrible.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: And now and now twenty years later, now it's making
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 6: this comeback where it's like, actually, no, it's been good
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: all along, and these people lied to you.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: Who is your favorite member of the trade Federation.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: No, but the opening fantastic. The end obviously is fantastic.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: You know, the whole battle scene.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: At the end. It's just like the acting and the
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: plot really that.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: It's just like the actual movie. It's so the acting,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: it's great, it's so true. But the the movie poster
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 6: is epic.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I say that as Look, there was
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: nobody more like I.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: Literally before that.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: Movie came out, I was graduating college, so I was
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: already like beyond the age that this should be acceptable.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Like I had bought the soundtrack, like and then I
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: went to it and I was like, oh, my god,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: and I remember watching him be like oh, and then
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: I went back to I'm like, I gotta go see
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: it again. On the second time, I was like, this
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: was really that good. Just listen.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: Do you guys ever watch a movie and you're sort
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: of like it could be an otherwise good movie, but
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: you're affected by bad acting.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: M Yeah, yeah, The Town.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't like Blake Lively, and you're the only red
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 5: blooded male on earth that didn't like anything that Blake
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: Lively did.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: They just looking at her different, different day, Blake Lively
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: in the Town, coming in here in my Boss.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: Besides the fact that she was listening to her exactly,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: besides the fact that she had a bit part, that's
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: that was his concern.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: She ruined the whole movie Three Speed.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like Sandra Bullock. Yeah, can. I think Can Reaves
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: was as bad an actor in that movie as you
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: could possibly be. I thought the movie was great.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 13: I love.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: Don't insult he's a terrible, but I love always the same. Well, well,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 5: he's gotten much better.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: I love John Wick.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: It's like the movies are just asked him to speak less.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 6: So it's just John Wick is one of my new
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: business that's another action movie that I like.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: Oh you like John No?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, no, John Wick is fine. But speed Speed
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: he's talking about. Okay, it's a good movie. Point Yeah.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 6: Do you say point Break is bad acting?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: Well, because that's that's my point. Don't dis Johnny Roadhouse,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: the original Roadhouse. It's a tremendous movie. Horrifically bad actor. Right,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: going to get people madon.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: What's the movie that I really liked that all you
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: guys made fun of me about Paul Do you remember
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: The Wife of Water?
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: You got it? What a memory he has? Life Life.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: I love that movie. I've seen it three times and
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: people like, how do you?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: I don't make fun of you because I never saw it.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: I just when you would, I think when you first
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: said it, I don't think I ever heard of it.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have seen it because I like Wes Anderson.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just quirky, and they're always quirky. Hill Murray's
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: very funny in it.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: Right, that was pretty good. That was random when you
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere the last Why is he making fun
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: of you though? If he's never seen it?
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: I just told you I wasn't making fun of him
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: because I've never seen it. I think Eric probably fun Eric.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: That sounds like something Eric. It wasn't like it didn't
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: have French subtitles.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: Chris with a T, I A n My wife and
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: I are finishing up six feet under. I put it
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: right up there with the best of them. Excellent, albeit
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: unbelievably depressing show.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: I should watch that. I never watched that one.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: Didn't see that either.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: What's that one?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: I really a funeral home?
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: Not seeing as the Wire?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never saw the Wire.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: The wires good, but you have to get into you
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 5: have to get into it.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: I tried to get into it, and I couldn't, like
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: sustain long enough to start getting It's.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 6: Kind of like the first season the Game of Thrones,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: where like you're kind of like, what I tried, what
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 6: is the point of this? But then once you get
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: through all the explaining of the characters and the set.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: In the world and everything, I felt overwhelmed, like I'm
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: never gonna know who anybody is watch it.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah the Wire is different in that respect, but that's
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: a great that's a great comment. And that's why it
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: was like, once I printed out a character math that
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: you could figure out who everyone wants to I'm.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: So simple, you know, like it it's a me problem.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: I understand, Like that's totally a me problem.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: What didn't for me with Game of Thrones was seeing
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: a map at West Rosa, Like it wasn't so much
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: the characters. Like for some reason, once I saw it,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: like understood Will where everything was in the world. I
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 6: was like, oh wait, this all like makes total sense.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: So Will wasn't like the eighth grade and he's like
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 5: texting my brother about things that happened, and like, after
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: like five texts back and forth, my brother's like, aren't
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: you when school goes?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: I am right now.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: He's watching Game of Thrones in eighth grade.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, there's some stuff going but good, good,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: solid parent.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, Richard writes in Jaws from DC. I'll read his email,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: but he buries the lead because the leads in the PS.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: He says, PS.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: My mom tells me, Paul sat behind my aunt in
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: high school. Oberton is our.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Is our name?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: Mary Overton? I remember Mary sat behind her. I don't
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: necessarily remember sitting behind her, but I remember Mary Overton.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, here you Goberton.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: But anyway, his email, I'm interested in any historical examples
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 4: you guys, could give me of a team that is
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: similar to the one the Patriots are currently with a
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: first year former head player, head coach, other first time
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: former player, first time coaches in various roles, new people
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: in important administrative positions, and a rookie quarterback competing against
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: a vet.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: Mike, can you out your Game of Thrones characters.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: I'm twenty eight year old who watched the Killer Bees
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: all my life. I'm struggling to develop expectations for the season.
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  Speaker 6: So I wouldn't say that they necessarily have a new
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 6: person in the well. I mean the Texans kind of.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 6: I mean Damika Ryans, c J. Stroud, like Nicosiat never
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: sat in that seat before until he got to Houston.
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  Speaker 6: I mean there there, to me are the the closest
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  Speaker 6: thing that is like the model of if it all works,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 6: and Drake May is CJ. Stroud, which is really the
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 6: big thing, then it would.
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  Speaker 5: Look like I think that's the perfect team to point
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: to if you're looking for you know, the ceiling, Yeah,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 5: just unabashed hope, ye look at Houston.
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  Speaker 4: But but you know, he brings up a lot of
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: points that it's hard to find an exact comparison, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with all the newbies.
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  Speaker 6: I think Houston's pretty close though, because like they had Demiko,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 6: Ryan's former linebacker, rookie quarterback turnhead coach that had never
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: youngest head coach in the league I think at the
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: time of his hiring. Also, like Gerard, I mean, there's
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: that's the model, that quarterback.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 5: With the second overall pick as opposed to the third
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: overall pick.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: John and South Carolina. I disagree with his take here.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: He says, if die Hard is not a Christmas movie,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: then neither is It is a Wonderful Life. They are
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: both movies that happened at Christmas. It's a wonderful life
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: is all about Christmas.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: It's got the Angel and and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I would argue that Bruce Willis, and he says, and
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: it makes it a Christmas The Virgin. Everything Virgin did
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: was for her. Did we not get that?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: What's a hallmark?
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 5: It was about Christmas? Like this is my time, it's
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 5: Christmas season. It's been New Year's New Year. Wanted coulday,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 5: but it wasn't. It was Christmas.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: Could have been her birthday, could have been good email,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 6: could have been pregnant to see the birth of the baby.
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  Speaker 5: Well that would have been really a downer for Bruce
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 5: Willis because he hadn't been around in a long time.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: Uh, Patrick and Ottawa karate Kid was on YouTube. B
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: read whatever that is.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 5: That was good.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: That's a good that's a fun series.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: That's what we were talking about. That was on YouTube first.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: Originally believe maybe six episodes.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think I ever saw. I don't think I
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: have a watch it on YouTube.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, Johnny Lawrence isn't an outstanding comedic actor. I
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: mean that was the biggest surprise of it all. He's
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: hilarious and.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: He was great.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: Do you remember when he uh sent the message to
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: Elizabeth Shoe Oh yeah, yeah. I just kept screwing it
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: and it was like this huge thing and then he
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: just like deleted and wrote hi right right now.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: That's a that was a good show. Good show.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: Ford and Savannah Georgia said, did you realize Sons of
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: Anarchy was based on Hamlet? I took a class on
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: Hamlet in college and knew what was going to happen
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: in that show when the connection was made.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: Ye yeah, is that true?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, it's a good amount of things that are
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: based on Shakespeare in general, but Hamlet specifically. Yeah, and yes,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: lion King would be Shakespearean. Yeah.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his Katie Sigal is the mom. She's she's really
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: good that you hate her, which I mean that is
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: like a which when you hate, like when you like
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: when an actor and a show like stir like Surce
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: Lanister like stirs up.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: And he says he's sophisticated.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: But don't you ever like you read a book and
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: you got it in your name, you got it in
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: your head one way, and then it's actually a different way.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: The whole world all the time, and everybody else says
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: a word differently, kind of like our.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: Lads or why did our lads do this year?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: In the hour?
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: Correct? That is how you pronounce there are lads a day.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: Let's see who's this now? I don't know, he says.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: Kind of weird with the off topic discussions. Rightfully, so
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: there is a much going on. Have any of you
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: watched Sex Education on Netflix? If not, please give it
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: a shot.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: Great show.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: Also, give me your top three TV show series. Mine
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: are in no no specific order. The Office Breaking bad.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: In Ozark Ozark is really good. I really like that
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: a lot. So TV of all time, of all times,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: I mean that's for me, Seinfeld, that's a heavy that's
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: a heavy question. Yeah, Sopranos is probably my one. Yeah,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's tough, like because of the genres. Yeah,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 5: Fred has made this argument, like Seinfeld in the Office.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: Are great, but it's not TV like the Sopranos is,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 6: or like Game of Thrones is. You know, it's a
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 6: totally different thing.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: I would probably put Game of Thrones up there.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think Game of Thrones in my top three.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Breaking Bad to Me was like just excellent, some
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: of the best content I've ever seen. Forget about just TV.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: It was just so good.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: Office.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you like Seinfeld better than Office The Office?
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: I agree?
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but people swear by the Office the Offices.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, believe it or not, to some people swear
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: by Friends.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: Friends is really good. It's not as good as the
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: other It's not as good as the other two Friends
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 5: really good.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 7: It's such a snob, my daughter after Friends.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: Friends is really very good show. It was a really
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: good show. The episode where they bet the apartment and
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: they had that contest was.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Had there ever been four more unlikable characters on TV?
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: I hate them all?
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 5: Six The first of all, there's six whatever. Second of all,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: I would say that you're you're really wrong, You're just
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 5: really wrong. Joey and Chandler are great cat unlikable. Rachel's
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: a funny I don't know how you can think unlikable character.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: Joey's a great character, great character. Monica is probably an
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: unlikable cat, I'll give you that. And there were definitely
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: times where Ross was unlikable when when he got into
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: his really whiny face. Yeah, you need to clean up.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: You used that word way too much. But you're gonna
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 5: get You're gonna get us all pinched. But Ross being
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: Ross is the point was part of it. Yeah, it's
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: like how I met your mother with what's his name?
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: It's like who was the least likable character? Which is also.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 6: Based off of Friends and Ted is based off of
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 6: Ross and it all.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: Dorian writes in Touching Base on the Game of Thrones, comments,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know the intro to the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: show shows the entire map of West Rows, and it
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: shows what's currently happening in each area as it changes
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: from episode to episode.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't know.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 12: I just.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: Open them. I just really wish I could like represent
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: it something that was coming up.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 6: I wish I could see it again for the first time,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 6: you know, I wish I could wipe my brain.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 10: And I was.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: I wasn't like, I didn't the ending didn't make me furious.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: I just enjoyed it so much, like I was so
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: excited for episodes to come out, and that same with
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: Walking Dead early on, I was so excited and then
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: amazingly just both shows kind of at the end.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 6: I just think that the ending, the ending would have
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 6: worked the Game of Thrones if they didn't rush it,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 6: like if the if it The problem is that it
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 6: was so rush that her turn just doesn't sorry spoiler alert,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 6: that doesn't make it doesn't make any sense because it
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 6: happens in like the span of like an episode.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 3: And a half. Well see, and that's that was my
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: whole thing with the Bear on that episode where the
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: cousin all like he completely turns in an episode, And
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: that's right, part of my problem with the Bear.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: In the middle of the season two, I love that episode.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: He's all he's all better now.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 6: Well it's the new season's coming out at the end
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 6: of June, so but yeah, I hear you.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: I saw a funny meme that was just like, oh
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: my god, people want to eat our food. We're going crazy.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 6: But at least in that in that in the Bear,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 6: they show time passing, whereas in a Game of Thrones,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: like time is not an element, so like you don't
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 6: really notice that. Yeah, maybe it was only technically two episodes,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 6: but it was actually like a year of time. But
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 6: they don't really it's actually like a couple of hundred.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 6: They were on cell phones and stuff and everything was like, whoa,
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 6: where does.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 5: Technology come from?
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 5: I didn't see it, all right, I can't get him
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 5: mad about it. I try good offseason talk.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: We'll be back on Thursday, but don't forget Tomorrow we'll
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 4: be covering uh O t A. So we'll be out
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: there for the entire practice and Thursday we'll be here
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: to talk about it. So we'll have and playbook is
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: tomorrow from two to four.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 6: Catch twenty two Thursday morning before pu.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, Thursday morning, ten o'clock. Yes, okay, we'll talk to
• 1:59:12
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