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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chapter sixty nine of the Brothers Karamatzov by Fyodor Dostayevsky,
- 0:09Speaker 1: translated by Constance Garnet. This Librevok's recording is in the
- 0:15Speaker 1: public domain recording by Tony Addison, Chapter six percocity. What
- 0:26Speaker 1: do you think the doctor will say to him? Kolia asked, quickly,
- 0:30Speaker 1: what a repulsive mug thou hasn't it? I can't endure medicine.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Ilusha is dying. I think that's certain, answered Alyosha mournfully.
- 0:41Speaker 1: They are rogues. Madison's a fraud. I am glad to
- 0:45Speaker 1: have made your acquaintance, though Karamatzov, I wanted to know
- 0:49Speaker 1: you for a long time. I am only sorry we
- 0:51Speaker 1: meet in such sad circumstances. Kolia had a great inclination
- 0:56Speaker 1: to say something even warmer and more demonstras, but he
- 1:01Speaker 1: felt ill at ease. Alyosha noticed this, smiled and pressed
- 1:06Speaker 1: his hand. I've long learned to respect you as a
- 1:10Speaker 1: rare person, Colia muttered again, faltering and uncertain. I have
- 1:16Speaker 1: heard you are a mystic and have been in the monastery.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I know you are a mystic, but that hasn't put
- 1:23Speaker 1: me off. Contact with real life will cure you. It's
- 1:27Speaker 1: always so with characters like yours. What do you mean
- 1:31Speaker 1: by mystic kull? Me of what? Alyosha was rather astonished, Oh,
- 1:39Speaker 1: gardened all the rest of it. What don't you believe
- 1:42Speaker 1: in God? Oh? I've nothing against God? Of course God
- 1:47Speaker 1: is only hypothesis, but I admit that he is needed
- 1:51Speaker 1: for the order of the universe and all that, and
- 1:54Speaker 1: that if there were no God, he would have to
- 1:56Speaker 1: be invented, added Colya begin to blush. He suddenly fancied
- 2:02Speaker 1: that Alyosha might think he was trying to show off
- 2:05Speaker 1: his knowledge and to prove that he was grown up.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I am the slightest desire to show off my knowledge
- 2:12Speaker 1: to him, Collia thought indignantly, and all of a sudden
- 2:17Speaker 1: he felt horribly annoyed. I must confess I can't endure
- 2:23Speaker 1: entering on such discussions, he said, with a final erth
- 2:27Speaker 1: it's possible for one who doesn't believe in God to
- 2:30Speaker 1: love mankind, don't you think so? Voltaire didn't believe in
- 2:34Speaker 1: God and loved mankind. I am at it again, he
- 2:39Speaker 1: thought to himself. Voltaire believed in God, though not very much,
- 2:43Speaker 1: I think, and I don't think he loved mankind very
- 2:46Speaker 1: much either, said Alyosha, quietly, gently and quite naturally, as
- 2:53Speaker 1: though we were talking to someone of his own age
- 2:55Speaker 1: or even older. Colia was particularly struck by Alyosha's indiffidence
- 3:01Speaker 1: about his opinion of Voltaire. He seemed to be leaving
- 3:04Speaker 1: the question for him little Collier to settle. Have you
- 3:08Speaker 1: read Boltaire? Alyosha finished, Uh, no, not to say read,
- 3:15Speaker 1: but I've read Condide in the Russian translation, in an absurd,
- 3:20Speaker 1: grotesque old translation. At it again again? And did you
- 3:29Speaker 1: understand it? Oh? Yes, everything that is. Why do you
- 3:34Speaker 1: suppose I shouldn't understand it. There's a lot of nastiness
- 3:38Speaker 1: in it. Of course, of course I can understand that
- 3:41Speaker 1: it's a philosophical novel and written to advocate an idea.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Collier was getting mixed by. Now I am a socialist,
- 3:50Speaker 1: Kara myself. I am an incurable socialist, he announced, suddenly,
- 3:56Speaker 1: apropos of nothing a socialist, laugh, d Alyosha. But whenever
- 4:02Speaker 1: you had time to become one? Why I thought you
- 4:05Speaker 1: were only thirteen, Collier winced. In the first place, I
- 4:10Speaker 1: am not thirteen, but fourteen fourteen in a fortnight, he
- 4:14Speaker 1: flushed angrily. And in the second place, I am at
- 4:17Speaker 1: a complete loss to understand what my age has to
- 4:21Speaker 1: do with it. The question is what are my convictions,
- 4:25Speaker 1: not what my age is, isn't it When you are
- 4:29Speaker 1: older you'll understand for yourself the influence of age on convictions.
- 4:36Speaker 1: I fancied too, that you were not expressing your own ideas,
- 4:40Speaker 1: Alyosha answered serenely and modestly, but Collier interrupted him otlely, Come,
- 4:47Speaker 1: you want obedience and mysticism, you must admit that the
- 4:51Speaker 1: Christian religion, for instance, has only been of use to
- 4:54Speaker 1: the rich and the powerful to keep the lower classes
- 4:57Speaker 1: in slavery. That's so, isn't it. Ah? I know where
- 5:02Speaker 1: you read that, and I am sure someone told you so,
- 5:06Speaker 1: cried Alyosha. I say, what makes you think I read it?
- 5:11Speaker 1: And certainly no one told me so. I can think
- 5:14Speaker 1: for myself. I am not opposed to Christ. If you like,
- 5:18Speaker 1: he was a most humane person, and if he were
- 5:21Speaker 1: alive to day, he will be found in the ranks
- 5:24Speaker 1: of the revolutionists and would perhaps play a conspicuous part.
- 5:29Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Oh where did you get
- 5:33Speaker 1: that from? What fool have you made friends with? Exclaimed Alyosha. Come,
- 5:39Speaker 1: the truth will out. It has so chanced that I
- 5:42Speaker 1: have often talked to mister Rakitin, of course, But oh,
- 5:46Speaker 1: Balynsky said that too, So they say by Lynsky, I
- 5:49Speaker 1: don't remember. He hasn't written that anywhere. If he didn't
- 5:54Speaker 1: write it, they say he said it. I heard that
- 5:58Speaker 1: from it. But never mind. And have you read by Lynsky? Well, no,
- 6:05Speaker 1: I haven't read all of him, but I read the
- 6:08Speaker 1: passage about Tatiana, or why she didn't go up with Onyegen,
- 6:14Speaker 1: didn't go off with Onyegen. Surely you don't understand that already.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Why you seem to take me for a little Smeerra,
- 6:23Speaker 1: said Colier, with a grin of irritation. But please don't
- 6:27Speaker 1: suppose I am such a revolutionist. I often disagree with
- 6:32Speaker 1: mister Rakitin. Though I mentioned Tatiana. I am not at
- 6:37Speaker 1: all for the emancipation of women. I acknowledge that women
- 6:41Speaker 1: are a subject race and must obey les farm three
- 6:45Speaker 1: cootan as Napoleon said. Colia for some reason smiled, And
- 6:52Speaker 1: on that question at least, I am quite of one
- 6:55Speaker 1: mind with that pseudo great man. I think too, that
- 7:00Speaker 1: to leave one's own country and fly to America is
- 7:03Speaker 1: mean worse than mean silly? Why go to America when
- 7:08Speaker 1: one may be of great service to humanity here now, especially,
- 7:13Speaker 1: there's a perfect mass of brutal activity open to us.
- 7:17Speaker 1: That's what I answered. What do you mean answered whom?
- 7:24Speaker 1: Has some one suggested you're going to America? Already? I
- 7:29Speaker 1: must own they've been at me to go, But I
- 7:32Speaker 1: declined that's between ourselves, of course, Karametzov, do you hear
- 7:38Speaker 1: not a word to any one. I say this only
- 7:41Speaker 1: to you. I'm not at all anxious to fall into
- 7:44Speaker 1: the clutches of the secret police and take lessons at
- 7:48Speaker 1: the chain Bridge. Long will you remember the house of
- 7:53Speaker 1: the chain Bridge? Do you remember? It's splendid? Why? Why
- 8:00Speaker 1: are you laughing? You don't suppose I am fibbing? Do
- 8:03Speaker 1: you what if he should find out that I've only
- 8:06Speaker 1: that one number of the bell in father's bookcase and
- 8:10Speaker 1: haven't read any more of it? Colia thought, with a shudder,
- 8:15Speaker 1: Oh no, I am not laughing, And don't suppose for
- 8:18Speaker 1: a moment that you are lying. No, indeed, I can't
- 8:22Speaker 1: suppose so for all this alas is perfectly true. But
- 8:28Speaker 1: tell me have you read pushkin on Yigen? For instance?
- 8:34Speaker 1: You spoke just now of Tatyana. No, I haven't read
- 8:38Speaker 1: it yet, but I want to read it. I have
- 8:41Speaker 1: no prejudices, Karamatzov, I want to hear both sides. What
- 8:46Speaker 1: makes you ask? Oh? Nothing? Tell me, Karamatzov, have you
- 8:52Speaker 1: an awful contempt for me? Kolia rapped out suddenly and
- 8:56Speaker 1: drew himself up before Alyosha, as though he were on drill.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Be so kind as to tell me, without beating about
- 9:03Speaker 1: the bush, I have a contempt for you. Alyosha looked
- 9:08Speaker 1: at him, wondering what for. I am only sad that
- 9:13Speaker 1: a charming nature such as yours should be perverted by
- 9:17Speaker 1: all this crude nonsense before you have begun live. Don't
- 9:22Speaker 1: be anxious about my nature, Collier interrupted, not without complacency.
- 9:29Speaker 1: But it's true that I am stupidly sensitive, crudely sensitive.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Who smiled just now, and I fancied you seem to, Oh,
- 9:39Speaker 1: my smile meant something quite different. I'll tell you why
- 9:43Speaker 1: I smiled. Not long ago I read the criticism made
- 9:48Speaker 1: by a German who had lived in Russia on our
- 9:51Speaker 1: Students and Schoolboys of the Day show. A Russian schoolboy
- 9:56Speaker 1: he writes a map of the stars which he knows
- 9:59Speaker 1: nothing about, and he will give you back the map
- 10:02Speaker 1: next day with corrections on it. No knowledge and unbounded conceit.
- 10:08Speaker 1: That's what the German meant to say about the Russian schoolboy. Yes,
- 10:14Speaker 1: that's perfectly right, Calia laughed suddenly. Exactly so, Brabo the German.
- 10:21Speaker 1: But he did not see the good side. What do
- 10:22Speaker 1: you think conceit may be that comes from you, that
- 10:27Speaker 1: will be corrected if need be. But on the other hand,
- 10:30Speaker 1: there is an independent spirit, almost from childhood, boldness of
- 10:35Speaker 1: thought and conviction, and not the spirit of these sausage
- 10:38Speaker 1: makers groveling before authority. But the German was right all
- 10:43Speaker 1: the same, Brabo the German. But Germans once strangling, all
- 10:48Speaker 1: the same. Though they are so good at science and learning,
- 10:51Speaker 1: they must be strangled, strangled, And what for smiled Alyosha. Well,
- 10:57Speaker 1: perhaps I am talking nonsense. I agree. I am awfully
- 11:01Speaker 1: childish sometimes, and when I am pleased about anything, I
- 11:05Speaker 1: can't restrain myself and am ready to talk any stuff.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But I say, we are chattering away here about nothing,
- 11:12Speaker 1: And that doctor has been a long time in there.
- 11:15Speaker 1: But perhaps he's examining the mamma and that poor crippled Nina.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I like that Nina. You know, she whispered to me
- 11:23Speaker 1: suddenly as I was coming away, why didn't you come before?
- 11:27Speaker 1: And in such a voice so reproachfully. I think she
- 11:30Speaker 1: is awfully nice and pathetic. Yes, yes, well you'll be
- 11:35Speaker 1: coming often. You will see what she is like. It
- 11:38Speaker 1: would do you a great deal of good to know
- 11:40Speaker 1: people like that, to learn to value a great deal
- 11:43Speaker 1: which you will find out from knowing these people. Alyosha
- 11:46Speaker 1: observed warmly, that would have more effect on you than anything. Oh,
- 11:52Speaker 1: how I regret and blame myself and not having come sooner,
- 11:55Speaker 1: Colia exclaimed, with bitter feeling. Yes, it's a great pity
- 12:00Speaker 1: you saw for yourself, how delighted the poor child was
- 12:03Speaker 1: to see you, and how he fretted for you to come.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Don't tell me you make it worse, but it serves
- 12:09Speaker 1: me right. What kept me from coming was my conceit,
- 12:13Speaker 1: my egoistic vanity, and the beastly wilfulness which I never
- 12:17Speaker 1: can get rid of, though I've been struggling with it
- 12:20Speaker 1: all my life. I see that now I am a
- 12:23Speaker 1: beast and lots of ways caramuts up. No, you have
- 12:27Speaker 1: a charming nature, though it's been distorted and I quite
- 12:31Speaker 1: understand why you have had such an influence on this generous,
- 12:35Speaker 1: morbidly sensitive boy. Alyosha answered warmly. And you say that
- 12:40Speaker 1: to me, cried Collier. And would you believe it? I thought,
- 12:45Speaker 1: I've thought several times since I've been here that you
- 12:48Speaker 1: despised me, if only you knew how I prized your opinion.
- 12:53Speaker 1: But are you really so sensitive at your age? Would
- 12:57Speaker 1: you believe it? Just now? When you were telling your story,
- 13:01Speaker 1: I thought as I watched you that you must be
- 13:03Speaker 1: very sensitive. You thought, so, what an eye you've got?
- 13:08Speaker 1: I say, I bet that was when I was talking
- 13:10Speaker 1: about the goose. That was just when I was fancying
- 13:13Speaker 1: you had a great contempt for me for being in
- 13:15Speaker 1: such a hurry to show off, and for a moment
- 13:18Speaker 1: I quite hated you for it and began talking like
- 13:21Speaker 1: a fool. Then I fancied just now here when I
- 13:25Speaker 1: said that if there were no God, he would have
- 13:27Speaker 1: to be invented, that I was in too great a
- 13:30Speaker 1: hurry to display my knowledge, especially as I got that
- 13:33Speaker 1: phrase out of a book. But I swear I wasn't
- 13:36Speaker 1: showing off out of vanity, though I really don't know why,
- 13:40Speaker 1: because I was so pleased. Yes, I believe it was
- 13:44Speaker 1: because I was so pleased, though it's perfectly disgraceful for
- 13:48Speaker 1: anyone to be gushing directly they are pleased, I know that.
- 13:52Speaker 1: But I am convinced now that you don't despise me.
- 13:55Speaker 1: It was all my imagination. O Kaiamatzov. I am profound
- 14:00Speaker 1: be unhappy. I sometimes fancy all sorts of things that
- 14:03Speaker 1: everyone is not being at me, the whole world, and
- 14:06Speaker 1: then I feel ready to overturn the whole order of things.
- 14:10Speaker 1: And you worry every one about you, smiled Alyosha. Yes,
- 14:15Speaker 1: I worry everyone about me, especially my mother. Karamtself tell me, Am,
- 14:20Speaker 1: I very ridiculous. Now, don't think about that. Don't think
- 14:24Speaker 1: of it at all, cried Alyosha. And what does ridiculous mean?
- 14:29Speaker 1: Isn't everyone constantly being or seeming ridiculous? Besides, nearly all
- 14:35Speaker 1: clever people now are fearfully afraid of being ridiculous, and
- 14:39Speaker 1: that makes them unhappy. All I am surprised at is
- 14:43Speaker 1: that you should be feeling that so early, though I've
- 14:45Speaker 1: observed it for some time past, and not only in you.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Nowadays the very children have begun to suffer from it.
- 14:53Speaker 1: It's almost a sort of insanity. The devil has taken
- 14:57Speaker 1: the form of that vanity and entered into the whole renovation.
- 15:01Speaker 1: It's simply the devil, added Alyosha, without a trace of
- 15:06Speaker 1: the smile that Collier staring at him expected to see.
- 15:10Speaker 1: You are like everyone else, said Alyosha in conclusion, that
- 15:14Speaker 1: is like very many others. Only you must not be
- 15:17Speaker 1: like everybody else, that's all. Even if everyone is like that, Yes,
- 15:23Speaker 1: even if everyone is like that, you be the only
- 15:27Speaker 1: one not like it. You really are not like everyone
- 15:31Speaker 1: else here. You are not ashamed to confess to something
- 15:35Speaker 1: bad and even ridiculous. And who will admit so much?
- 15:38Speaker 1: In these days no one, and people have even ceased
- 15:43Speaker 1: to feel the impulse to self criticism. Don't be like
- 15:47Speaker 1: everyone else, even if you are the only one splendid.
- 15:53Speaker 1: I was not mistaken in you. You know how to
- 15:56Speaker 1: console one. Oh, how I have longed to know you,
- 15:59Speaker 1: karam itself. I've long been eager for this meeting. Can
- 16:03Speaker 1: you really have thought about me too, you said, just
- 16:05Speaker 1: now that you thought of me too. Yes, i'd heard
- 16:09Speaker 1: of you and had thought of you too. And if
- 16:12Speaker 1: it's partly vanity that makes you ask, it doesn't matter.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Do you know, Karamatzov, our talk has been like a
- 16:19Speaker 1: declaration of love, said Collier in a bashful and melting voice.
- 16:24Speaker 1: That's not ridiculous, is it not at all ridiculous? And
- 16:29Speaker 1: if it were, it wouldn't matter, because it's been a
- 16:31Speaker 1: good thing. Alyoysha smiled brightly. But do you know, Karamatzov,
- 16:38Speaker 1: you must admit that you are a little ashamed yourself.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Now I see it by your eyes. Colier smiled with
- 16:45Speaker 1: a sort of sly happiness. Why ashame? Well, why are
- 16:50Speaker 1: you blushing? It was you made me blush, laughed Alyoysha,
- 16:57Speaker 1: and he really did blush. Oh well, I am a
- 17:01Speaker 1: little goodness knows why? I don't know, he muttered, almost embarrassed.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Oh how I love you and admire you at this moment,
- 17:10Speaker 1: just because you are rather ashamed, Because you are just
- 17:15Speaker 1: like me, cried Colier in positive ecstasy. His cheeks glowed,
- 17:22Speaker 1: his eyes beamed. You know, Colier, you will be very
- 17:27Speaker 1: unhappy in your life. Something made Alyosha say suddenly, I
- 17:31Speaker 1: know I know how you know it all beforehand, Collier
- 17:35Speaker 1: agreed at once, But you will blust life in the
- 17:39Speaker 1: hole all the same. Just so hurrah, you are a prophet.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Oh we shall get on together, karamatselv. Do you know
- 17:50Speaker 1: what delights me most is that you treat me quite
- 17:53Speaker 1: like an equal. But we are not equals. No, we
- 17:56Speaker 1: are not. You are better. But we shall get on.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Do you know all this last month I've been saying
- 18:02Speaker 1: to myself, either we shall be friends at once forever,
- 18:06Speaker 1: or we shall part enemies to the grave, and saying that,
- 18:11Speaker 1: of course you loved me. Alyosha laughed gaily, I did.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I loved you awfully. I've been loving and dreaming of you.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And how do you know it all beforehand? Ah, here's
- 18:26Speaker 1: the doctor. Goodness, what will he tell us? Look at
- 18:29Speaker 1: his face? And of Chapter sixty nine,