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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:02Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in
- 0:06Speaker 1: to the Ted Wait testimony that he gave to Congress.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Miss Mace, I have a few more questions, Miss Casey.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Go ahead, Miss Mace, if you don't mind. We're voting today, apparently,
- 0:18Speaker 1: so I'm going to miss my flight, mister spector, go ahead,
- 0:22Speaker 1: Miss Mace. He said earlier in your testimony that you
- 0:24Speaker 1: had met with Epstein or seen him, you know, happenstance
- 0:27Speaker 1: sort of running into him or whatever. Did you ever
- 0:30Speaker 1: see women that looked young around him or near him
- 0:33Speaker 1: at any of those encounters, mister wait, On two occasions
- 0:36Speaker 1: he was with young women who Miss Mace, did she
- 0:39Speaker 1: look under eighteen? Mister Wait, No, I would have guessed
- 0:43Speaker 1: in her early twenties, Miss Mace. Okay, mister Wait, she
- 0:46Speaker 1: looked like a model type. I don't believe you were
- 0:48Speaker 1: in the room, I said, I think there was Eastern
- 0:51Speaker 1: European and I was told that she was a girlfriend,
- 0:54Speaker 1: Miss Mace. And did you ever hear any rumors about
- 0:57Speaker 1: his behavior, like in your circles in places? Did you
- 1:01Speaker 1: ever hear rumors? Wait, not that I can recall miss Mace,
- 1:05Speaker 1: what was his behavior and what it may have been,
- 1:08Speaker 1: mister wait, not that I can recall Miss Mace. Okay?
- 1:12Speaker 1: And then have you you said that you financially supported
- 1:14Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell? I think to the tune of around thirty
- 1:17Speaker 1: g's a month. Was that normal for a girlfriend? Had
- 1:21Speaker 1: you given that amount of money to your girlfriends on
- 1:23Speaker 1: average to help them maintain their lifestyles? Mister Waite, I
- 1:27Speaker 1: haven't had that many girlfriends where I provided. She was
- 1:29Speaker 1: the first one I provided that level of financial support
- 1:32Speaker 1: to Miss Mace. What would have been Have you ever
- 1:36Speaker 1: provided that support to a girlfriend previously your post Glaine,
- 1:40Speaker 1: mister Waite, No, I was married previous to that, Miss Mace. Okay,
- 1:43Speaker 1: mister Waite, and this was later in our relationship, Miss Mace.
- 1:48Speaker 1: So Glaine Maxwell is the only girlfriend that you've ever
- 1:51Speaker 1: paid thirty g's to a month, Mister Waite. I did
- 1:54Speaker 1: provide support to my current wife before we got married,
- 1:57Speaker 1: and still do, Mace. And then this seven million in
- 2:00Speaker 1: the month that you broke up in twenty ten, September
- 2:03Speaker 1: twenty ten, excuse me. Eight million. It's a lot of money.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Maybe it's ten or eleven, but for the amount of
- 2:09Speaker 1: money that you gave her in September of twenty ten.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Had you ever given a girlfriend that amount of money? Mister?
- 2:15Speaker 1: Wait no, mister scull, Danny jumps in just to clarify,
- 2:18Speaker 1: mister wait, was it the amount that's reflected on the
- 2:21Speaker 1: document is seven point two million? Is that your recollection? Mister? Wait?
- 2:26Speaker 1: Whatever the document says, it's call Danny. Okay, miss Mace,
- 2:29Speaker 1: But you'd never given a girlfriend the amount of money. Wait, no, Mace.
- 2:34Speaker 1: And it was the month that you broke up, so
- 2:36Speaker 1: this was like a breakup gift. Wait, yeah, Mace, you know,
- 2:41Speaker 1: kind of like a divorce. You were together a long time. Wait,
- 2:44Speaker 1: it was like a pre a palimony settlement type thing.
- 2:48Speaker 1: She was planning on spending the rest of my life
- 2:50Speaker 1: with me and was giving you know, Mace cuts them off.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Did you ever have like an agreement in like writing
- 2:57Speaker 1: with her when you were together about financials, das or
- 3:00Speaker 1: anything like that. Wait no, Mace. Okay, mister Spector, we've
- 3:05Speaker 1: had an additional member join. Mister Conna, do you mind
- 3:08Speaker 1: introducing yourself for the record? Row Conna, I represent California's
- 3:13Speaker 1: seventeenth District. Miss Cathay, thank you, mister wait, thank you
- 3:17Speaker 1: for bearing with us. We're jumping around a lot here
- 3:19Speaker 1: and onto a lot of different topics. I'm going to
- 3:22Speaker 1: step back a little bit into something that you mentioned
- 3:24Speaker 1: very briefly in the very first hour. You talked about
- 3:27Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight plea deal that was given
- 3:29Speaker 1: to mister Epstein, his subsequent imprisonment, and everything that came
- 3:33Speaker 1: out about Miss Maxwell following that. So my question is,
- 3:37Speaker 1: did you learn that she had been labeled publicly as
- 3:39Speaker 1: a co conspirator of mister Epstein while you were still
- 3:42Speaker 1: dating her? Mister wait, No, Miss Cathay, you did not
- 3:46Speaker 1: learn that until after you broke up with her. Mister wait, yeah,
- 3:49Speaker 1: I think it was much later. Mister Skaldani, can you
- 3:52Speaker 1: clarify when she was identified as a co conspirator? Miss Cathay,
- 3:57Speaker 1: The reporting did not come out until I'm sorry I
- 3:59Speaker 1: don't have this specific year, but it didn't come out
- 4:01Speaker 1: until a few years after he was in prison. But
- 4:04Speaker 1: that's why we're clarifying today. When you found out, mister wait, yeah,
- 4:08Speaker 1: I wasn't. It wasn't until after we broke up. Sculldnni
- 4:11Speaker 1: jumps in and just for the record, I don't think
- 4:14Speaker 1: any co conspirators were identified in the two thousand and
- 4:17Speaker 1: eight conviction and the process leading up to that, Miss Cathay,
- 4:20Speaker 1: that's correct. She was not identified in the plea agreement,
- 4:23Speaker 1: but it became public and she was labeled labeled publicly
- 4:26Speaker 1: as a co conspirator as time went on, Mister sculldnni okay,
- 4:30Speaker 1: Miss Cathay, And that's what we're referring to, Miss Mace.
- 4:33Speaker 1: What year was that, Miss Cathay. I don't have a
- 4:36Speaker 1: specific year when the reporting came out, but it was
- 4:38Speaker 1: several years after he was in prison. Well, he was
- 4:41Speaker 1: never in prison, So there's that, Miss Callin, and which
- 4:44Speaker 1: I think he went to prison twice, Cathay the first
- 4:47Speaker 1: time he went to prison, which was in two thousand
- 4:49Speaker 1: and eight. No, he didn't go to prison. These people
- 4:52Speaker 1: don't even know the story. How are they going to
- 4:53Speaker 1: get us to justice, Miss Callen, I think, I mean,
- 4:57Speaker 1: I don't have any recollection of any co conspirator being
- 5:00Speaker 1: named in that timeframe, So I think in order for
- 5:03Speaker 1: us to all appine on that, we would have to
- 5:04Speaker 1: see a document, Mister Spector, the non prosecutionment agreement names
- 5:09Speaker 1: for women, none of whom are Miss Maxwell per my recollection,
- 5:12Speaker 1: but it did name four during his initial arrest, and
- 5:15Speaker 1: it says these four and all other potential co conspirators.
- 5:19Speaker 1: And subsequent to that, there are media reports that indicated
- 5:22Speaker 1: that Miss Maxwell may have been involved. That's what we're
- 5:25Speaker 1: referring to, Miss Callen. I don't think that there's there
- 5:29Speaker 1: was not It wasn't widely reported at the time. I
- 5:32Speaker 1: also think that most of the documents were under seal
- 5:34Speaker 1: until recently, mister spector. Mister wait, I think you've already
- 5:38Speaker 1: been clearer, but I want to be clear again. Do
- 5:41Speaker 1: you have did you have any knowledge during your relationship
- 5:44Speaker 1: with Miss Maxwell that she was considered to be involved
- 5:47Speaker 1: in Jeffrey Epstein's crimes in any way mister Waite, No,
- 5:51Speaker 1: Miss Cathay question, thank you for clarifying that during the
- 5:55Speaker 1: course of your relationship, then you not knowing that she
- 5:58Speaker 1: was being accused in any way? Did she defend herself
- 6:02Speaker 1: to you and her involvement with Epstein in his capacity
- 6:04Speaker 1: as her employer? Answer? Yeah, I recall late in our
- 6:08Speaker 1: relationship her denying involvement with all his crimes. Question did
- 6:12Speaker 1: she ever defend mister Epstein? Answer? I don't recall her
- 6:15Speaker 1: defending him. Question do you generally remember whether she thought
- 6:18Speaker 1: the allegations were true? Answer? I don't recall getting into
- 6:22Speaker 1: that level of detail. Question. I mean, he was her
- 6:24Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, he was convicted of a serious crime. You
- 6:28Speaker 1: don't recall any conversation about how her general feelings towards
- 6:31Speaker 1: his conviction. Answer like I said, she downplayed the event.
- 6:35Speaker 1: She made it seem like he you know, you got
- 6:37Speaker 1: a better deal, and you have the conversation. I just
- 6:39Speaker 1: remember her denying any direct involvement with it when I asked,
- 6:43Speaker 1: because I asked about it, Like I said, I wish
- 6:45Speaker 1: I would have done more research at the time around
- 6:47Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight timeframe. I wish I would have.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I didn't think to question and including the timeframe that
- 6:54Speaker 1: follows your breakup. Did you ever contact her again once
- 6:58Speaker 1: the news started coming out more frequently and she was
- 7:01Speaker 1: in the press and being labeled as a co conspirator involved,
- 7:04Speaker 1: did you ever contact her again to discuss that? Answer?
- 7:08Speaker 1: No question, Okay. I'd like now to turn to Miss
- 7:11Speaker 1: Maxwell's civil suits, specifically, did you assist Miss Maxwell in
- 7:15Speaker 1: any way with any of the civil cases that were
- 7:17Speaker 1: brought against her? Answer? No question, And more generally, did
- 7:21Speaker 1: you ever witness anything suspicious about Miss Maxwell into a
- 7:25Speaker 1: relationship with young women or girls? Answer no, Miss Callen,
- 7:29Speaker 1: He's answered that like six times now, Miss Cathay. I understand.
- 7:32Speaker 1: It's very hard to hear in the back of the room.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Miss Callen. It's in the record six times, Miss Cathay understood.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Question I'd like to shift gears a little bit. How
- 7:41Speaker 1: often would you travel with Miss Maxwell? Answer? Sometimes every
- 7:44Speaker 1: other week, sometimes or most every other week because I
- 7:47Speaker 1: had my four children, three of whom were teenager girls
- 7:50Speaker 1: at the time, so every other week from Sunday to Sunday.
- 7:54Speaker 1: So if I did travel with her, it would have
- 7:56Speaker 1: been at most every other week. Question And you know
- 8:00Speaker 1: where were you traveling to every other week? Answer of
- 8:03Speaker 1: various places around the world. I had worked very hard
- 8:05Speaker 1: for twenty years, you know. Now I was retired, so
- 8:08Speaker 1: I was, you know, seeing the world, going to as
- 8:10Speaker 1: many places as I could, learning a lot. Question did
- 8:14Speaker 1: you ever take any business trips with Miss Maxwell? Answer
- 8:18Speaker 1: not that I can recall specifically for business. Question And
- 8:21Speaker 1: you mentioned your children, But who else would travel with
- 8:25Speaker 1: you whenever you would take these trips? Answer? Yeah, it
- 8:28Speaker 1: was typically just the two of us. Question, and I'd
- 8:31Speaker 1: like to shift now to mister Epstein's property specifically. I
- 8:34Speaker 1: recognize that you mentioned many of these in your opening statement,
- 8:38Speaker 1: but for the purpose of the record, we are going
- 8:39Speaker 1: to go through each one. Answer okay, question, have you
- 8:43Speaker 1: ever been to mister Epstein's Island Little Saint James? Answer no. Question.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Did you ever visit mister Epstein's pomp Beach home? Answer
- 8:51Speaker 1: one time. I was in pomp Beach with Miss Maxwell.
- 8:54Speaker 1: She said that she had to retrieve something from the property.
- 8:57Speaker 1: We stopped there. I didn't get out of the car.
- 8:59Speaker 1: She invited me in. I said no, So I never
- 9:02Speaker 1: went inside, but I was in front of the house.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Was mister Epstein there? Answer not to my knowledge. Question
- 9:09Speaker 1: by mister Spector, why didn't you go in? Mister Waite?
- 9:12Speaker 1: I was told, I mean it was it was just weird.
- 9:15Speaker 1: It was the ex boyfriend's, you know, ex boyfriend's house.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't want to go in there,
- 9:20Speaker 1: Miss Cathay. Question, did miss Maxwell tell you to stay
- 9:23Speaker 1: in the car? Answer? No, she invited me in. Question
- 9:26Speaker 1: did you ever visit mister Epstein in his New York
- 9:28Speaker 1: Town home? Answer no question. Did you ever visit the
- 9:32Speaker 1: New Mexico Ranch Zoro Ranch in New Mexico Answer no question.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Did you ever visit mister Epstein's Paris apartment Answer no question.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Did you ever visit the office on three oh one
- 9:44Speaker 1: East sixty sixth Street that mister Epstein owned? Answer no question.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Did you ever visit New Auberney, Ohio? Answer no question.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Did you ever visit anywhere else that was owned or
- 9:55Speaker 1: managed by mister Epstein or his staff? Answer not that
- 9:58Speaker 1: I know of. Did you ever fly on any of
- 10:01Speaker 1: mister Epstein's private aircraft? Answer no question. Mister Epstein ever
- 10:06Speaker 1: invites you to fly on his private aircraft? Answer no question.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Did Miss Maxwell ever invite you to fly on mister
- 10:12Speaker 1: Epstein's private aircraft? Answer no question. Did you ever fly
- 10:17Speaker 1: on any of Miss Maxwell's aircraft? Answer I didn't know
- 10:20Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell had aircraft. She was a licensed helicopter pilot,
- 10:23Speaker 1: I said, specter. Did you ever fly on any aircraft
- 10:26Speaker 1: piloted by Miss Maxwell? Mister Waite, I had a helicopter
- 10:30Speaker 1: that she piloted, but only with another pilot on board
- 10:33Speaker 1: at the same time, so I had my own helicopter. Question.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Did mister Epstein ever fly on your private plane? Answer
- 10:39Speaker 1: no question. Did you ever fly with mister Epstein on
- 10:43Speaker 1: any aircraft? Answer no question. Were you ever approached or
- 10:47Speaker 1: question by law enforcement of any kind in regards to
- 10:50Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell or her crimes? Answer no question. Were you
- 10:54Speaker 1: ever approached or questioned by law enforcement of any kind
- 10:58Speaker 1: in regards to mister Epstein and crimes? Answer no, Miss Mace.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Do you think it's odd? This is an opinion. You
- 11:05Speaker 1: can tell me the answer or not. But do you
- 11:07Speaker 1: think that it's odd that no law enforcement apparatus made
- 11:09Speaker 1: any inquiries with you at all about you know, Epstein
- 11:12Speaker 1: or Maxwell's potential involvement with Epstein because you all had
- 11:16Speaker 1: a relationship for so long? Did you find that odd?
- 11:19Speaker 1: Mister Waite, that's a good question. Odd might not be
- 11:22Speaker 1: the right term. I was kind of expecting in a way,
- 11:27Speaker 1: Miss Wait, Miss Mace weird, ted Waite, I wouldn't say
- 11:30Speaker 1: it's weird. No, I had no direct involvement, Mace. Yeah,
- 11:35Speaker 1: but just being an associate of hers, did you find
- 11:37Speaker 1: it off putting at all? You know what I mean?
- 11:39Speaker 1: Like I would have assumed that law enforcement would have
- 11:41Speaker 1: investigated anyone that she had any kind of a relationship,
- 11:45Speaker 1: business or personal or otherwise for an extended period of time,
- 11:48Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Mister Wait. Yeah, I'm not
- 11:51Speaker 1: familiar with law enforcement, so I don't know Miss Mace.
- 11:55Speaker 1: I think it's weird, like there's no investigation at all
- 11:57Speaker 1: her behavior. Mister Waite, it would have been I would
- 12:01Speaker 1: have been happy to cooperate Miss Mace. Yeah, all right, folks,
- 12:05Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up right here, and in the next
- 12:07Speaker 1: episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where
- 12:09Speaker 1: we left off. All the information that goes with this
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