Latest / The Bill Handel Show / Condition of USS Lincoln | This Year’s El Nino Projected to be HUGE

Transcript

Condition of USS Lincoln | This Year’s El Nino Projected to be HUGE · The Bill Handel Show

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: six forty seven. Yes, you can put some.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty Is that the village people? Ah, okay,
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: that's a political statement there about who joins the Navy,
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: just saying okay, eh, well, not an interesting I guess
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: it is interesting, but a story that is troubling, and
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: it has to do with sailors aboard the USS Abraham
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Lincoln and Lincoln has been out over two hundred and
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: fifty days out to sea, has not docked for two
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty days. And that is a problem because
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: you now have sailors and marines and pilots staff aboard
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: that have but not hit a port in that long
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: a time, way over six months, and that gets a
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: little depressing, matter of fact, and get more than depressing.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the reports are that since the
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: Lincoln left port there has been an issue of low morale,
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: horrible food, which is good food. I mean, you have
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: to feed the sailors. Submarines supposed to have spectacular food.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: The news outlets Stars and Stripes and the Navy Times
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: reported there even had been multiple attempts by crew members
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: to jump overboard.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: They were so depressed.
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: And I am very disappointed in both Amy and Neil
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: because they missed my reference to the number of suicides
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: aboard of the Abraham Lincoln or just an incredible uptick
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: of sailors trying to blow then their heads off, you know,
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: shoot themselves in the head.
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: And it was missed by Amy and Neil. Come on, guys, well,
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: if it would have been funny, we would have got it.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: That's not the that's not the point. Funny is not
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: an issue here. My jokes being funny are never at issue.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: It's whether you get them or not. Cono got it anyway,
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: some of course Abraham Lilcot assassination jokes. But it is
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: really serious that you've got us sailors and marines. I
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: don't even know what marines do aboard the ship other
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: than they're they're waiting to be deployed.
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of marine aviators like top gun pilots.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they fly around, they're they're jumping up in
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: the air all the time and training so that they're
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: busy and they eat better because they're in the officers mess.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: It's the rest of the sailors. I was reading a report.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, I heard a report that where it really is
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: depressing for a lot of the sailors are those ones
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: that live below deck, where they never even get up
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: on top of the deck, and they have jobs like
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: swabbing the floor, janitorial jobs day in and day out
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: for seven days a week. And this just wrote mechanical,
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: you know, the issues where you just do the same
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: thing over and over again and you're not thinking a lot.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: They don't use your brains very much, so it's a
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: real problem. So what's happening. A couple of things are
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: going on. First of all, the George Washington USS George
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: Washington is on its way to replace the Lincoln and
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: all of these reports coming out and this is family members,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: about two hundred of them. There have been town halls,
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: there have been stories on CNN, stories even on Stars
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: and Stripes, which is the military newspaper, and the Navy Times,
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: which is a military newspaper controlled by the Department of Defense.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: They're coming out with these stories that would be the
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: last news outlets that would come out with this story,
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: so well it ended up happening. Richard Blumenthal Democrats. He
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: is a Senator and on the Armed Services Committee, he
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: writes to Defense Secretary Pete Hexith and the Acting Secretary
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: of the Navy to express serious concerns the increasing length
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: of deployments and demand answers, and said, in this letter
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: the widespread reports of shortages of basic supplies, water contamination,
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: plumbing issues, deteriorating mental health, deck safety concerns, disruptions in
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: the mail system, and as you would expect. Pete heg said, said,
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: none of that is true. We're doing just fine. The morale,
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: there's no problem. And so there was a town hall
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: in San Diego yesterday. Two hundred family members of the
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: crew members were talking about how difficult and how horrific
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: those conditions were.
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: And then there were.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Photos of the food and it was looked like they
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: have these trays and the way people in the Navy
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: are fed aboard ships, aircraft carriers, it's like a cafeteria
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: line where you go down with these trays and they
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: throw food on there. You can as much as you want,
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: and there was very little food on the tray. Now,
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know was that set up. I mean, that
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: would be fairly easy to concoct. But in one meeting,
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: the Vice Admiral Joseph Cahill, commander of Naval Surface Forces. Yeah,
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: acknowledged the train on the sailors and their families. He said,
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: we hear you loud and clear regarding the impact this
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: has had on families and on service members and the
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: long term ability of US to stand sustain our forces health.
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: And then the US Navy went on and you know,
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: good for them. We have not observed an increase in
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: suicidal ideations or attempts. We take every service members well
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: being seriously. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and have religious
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: medical mental health professionals available. Well, the problem is they
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: tried to kill themselves too, So it is difficult across
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: the board in any case. Is it going to happen?
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: Is it things going to change? I think things are
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: going to change. But at the same time, you can't
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: have any member of the administration admit that anything that
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: the administration touches is wrong or has some problems. No surprise,
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth has said none of that reporting is true
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: or it's all being taken out of context, and we're
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: doing fine, all right, We'll see. That's a tough way
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: to go. These deployments last forever. I mean, they're not
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: fun anymore. You joined the Navy today and can you
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: imagine you're on ship over six months have been People
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: have been on ship for a year and have not
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: hit port. And port is important for sailors. I mean,
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: you got to blow off a little steam.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: You gotta do the.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: Drugs, you got to hook up with the hookers. I mean,
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: you got to do all the good stuff that sailors do.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: You know, get the tattoos on your arms, you know,
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: the big anchor, the heart with the anchor that says, mom,
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: you don't have one of those tattoos, do you? Kneel?
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: You're about as chatted up as anybody I've ever met.
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: My brother Daniel, who was in the Marine Corps, he
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: has a rose with a little scroll on it.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: This his mom, oh's see that's sweet. That's vomitous. Actually,
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: so right now, what's going on? And threw this at
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: me because of course this is my wheelhouse. There's an
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: LA couple that had a baby with a surrogate who
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: lived in Alaska but delivered in Texas, And it's kind.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: Of a strange story.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: And this is a case in first impression because I've
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: never heard about this. Okay, first of all, let's talk
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: about contracts. Contracts have been upheld, Contracts with surrogates have
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: been upheld. Now, when I first started doing this, in
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of states, it was criminal. I mean, he
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: went to prison for doing this, for doing surrogacy. And
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to live in California and I
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: was I even say the word privileged early early days,
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: so I could help and I did write the laws
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: in California is pretty liberal.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Texas not so much.
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: So. The decision to deliver in Texas was because the
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: surrogate is very pro life.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: So here's what happened.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: So the surrogate gets implanted with the couple's embryo, so
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: they are the biological parents, which in most jurisdiction now
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: make them the parents, and the surrogate is carrying their child.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: It's basically a womb for rent, is effectively what surrogacy is.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: And so the baby is now going to be born
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: or has a very severe anomaly which the prognosis is
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: not very good and has to do with a heart defect,
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: and the couple asked the surrogate to abort the baby. Now,
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: most contracts, including my surrogate contract, did say that the
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: couple has the right to ask the surrogate to abort
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: a baby if it is hugely anomalous, and then that's
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: sort of vague. I don't know what hugely anomaloust is
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: because it has to be vague. And the surrogate mother,
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: in a huge letter, says she does not have to
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: comply with this. I mean, I gave boy that was
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: a huge end of the world headlines in my contract,
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened here. The couple said, please
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: aboord and she says, not a chance. So the baby
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: is born, and she now argues to keep the baby
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: in lieu of the contract. She says that part of
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: the contract is not enforceable, especially now that rovi Waite
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: is gone.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: But here's the argument. This is what I haven't seen.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: They have the baby, they're going to raise the baby,
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: they love the baby, and she's saying, you wanted to
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: kill the baby. You asked for an abortion, that's.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: How much you wanted this baby.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: And now that the baby is born, all of a sudden,
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: you're the best parents in the world, and you love
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: and you want to keep the child. As of right now,
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: it looks like the law is on their side because
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: this has never been decided. Does a couple give up
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: their rights to their baby. That is just stating in
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: a surrogate if they have asked for the baby, for
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: the pregnancy to be terminated, no one knows. That's the argument.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: It's a hell of an interesting argument. I mean, I've
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. I have never had a
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: surrogate mother changed her mind. I've had twenty five hundred
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: kids under my belt in my surrogacy program. Never had
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: a surrogate mother change her mind. Ever, that's never been
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: a problem, and there are so few that when they
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: do ask it becomes national news.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: But this one is really interesting.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: By the way, California was just let you know, and
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: I'm very proud to have been involved in this. The
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: first state in the United States to say that the
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: contract by which a surrogate mother carries a baby, a
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: couple's baby, is enforceable and that the parents of that
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: child are the intended mom and dad, notwithstanding how that
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: child was created, whether it's their embryo, whether it's the
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: mother's egg, whether it's the husband's sperm, whether it's a
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: sperm donor egg donor, it doesn't matter. Let's look at
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: the contract to see who the parents are and boy.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: When I first started this, tell me, there wasn't a
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: lot of hassle saying, hey, look at a contract to
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: see who mom and dad are?
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Whoa boy? That was big news. And there were people
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: that tried to throw me in prison for that.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: And there were a bunch of other issues involve surrogacy
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: that we don't have to get into, which I've done
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: many times before. But here I want to repeat, here
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: is the baby's question. The big question. Does the couple
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: have the right to keep the child? Otherwise they would
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was no issue, it's their baby. If
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: the couple, the parents say kill it, we want this
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: pregnancy terminated.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, and the baby has a different names.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: The anti abortion activists are on the side of the surrogate,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: of course, are refer to the baby's baby Gabriel, and
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: the parents are saying that the baby's name is Roomy.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Just on the name alone, I'd go with Gabriel if
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: I were the judge. Okay, you got it, Gabriel. Is
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: it now climate change and well, it's not so much
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: in controversy anymore.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: It's sort of here.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: I think most people will have agreed that climate change
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: is upon us and one of the things that is
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: involved in climate change is El Nino.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: We've heard about El Nino and as.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: We are not surprised as being reported and rightly so,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: scrambling weather patterns and spiking global temperatures. Look look what's
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: happening in Europe with these heat waves. They are now
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: bracing for the fifth heat wave this summer. That's Europe
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: out of control heat And then every night there are reports.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: A matter of fact, it starts to watch the news,
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: national news starts with what's going on in the rest
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: of the country, sort of the eastern seaboard and midwest. Boy,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: are we lucky here?
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Do you know that Elmino's actually reach full strength in December?
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: We're not even close yet. And look what's been happening.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: And this year is Elmino expected to be absolutely record
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: breaking and it's having some huge effect global temperatures going up,
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: dry spells, crop failures, way too much water.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: You've got these heat waves.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: For example, parts of Panama, one of the wettest countries
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: on Earth, they haven't had a major rain since early May,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: which has never been heard of before. Ethiopia one of
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: their driest summer stretches in four decades.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: India fifth driest June since.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: They started keeping records in nineteen oh one, and it
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: is it is a mess. One of the things about
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: weather prediction that it is so difficult that when the
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: early major the supercomputers came out, you remember the CRAT
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: computer and other computers, they were built to deal with
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: or one of the things they were dealing with was
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: weather prediction. To this day, it is so complex that
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: even the most modern computers don't have an easy time
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: dealing with this. So right now the al nino is
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: on its way. Well, it's already here. Now, it's just
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: a question of the magnitude. And these episodes occur every
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: two to seven years.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Now. They've contributed.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: These al ninos have contributed to swings in temperatures going
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: back millennia. But this year it's on track to be
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: the strongest in nearly eighty years. But it's worse than
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: that because if you look at the strongest el ninos
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: in modern history, when were they nineteen eighty two, nineteen
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: eighty three, nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety eight, two fifteen
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: to two sixteen. Those are the three strongest el ninos
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: that have ever been recorded. And we're going to break
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: those records probably. I mean, it is crazy. Temperatures are
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: forecast to be in the ocean increasing three point six
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: six degrees fahrenheit, and that is way above what critical
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: mass is. You know, one of the things the scientists
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: tell us is that we have to stop the emissions.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: We have to, of course stop the fossil fuel learning,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: et cetera, because it's causing is so much damage to
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the environment and is causing global warming. And as you know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: this administration is not particularly in favor with that. But
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: what you're hearing for from the scientists is we have
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: to stop yet. Well, now it's just a question of
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: slowing it down. And have we reached critical mass where
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter anymore? From what I understand, the
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: answer is yes. Now it's a question of slowing it
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: down if possible. It's like gang green moving up your arm,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: and it's just a question of how far up your
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: arm it's going to go.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Where do you amputate?
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: So is it going to be a wet summer or
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a wet winter or no.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a depends where you are, depends
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: where you are. I'm here right here, No, We're not
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: going to have a wet winter.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Unless well I thought it was the other Wait on.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Hold on, no, we are not going to have one unless,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: as a scientist tells us, we are going to have one. Gotcha,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: it is yes or no or maybe ah. That again, Yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I'm here to help it. Well. As I said, and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I've said this many times, the droughts are getting droughtier,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the rains are getting rainier, the hurricanes are becoming more intense,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and they all are. And unfortunately it's all true. I mean,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: we've got a mess on our hands.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I used to and this is an aside, and I've
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: said this before many times, it used to be that
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I really wanted to live a lot longer than I would,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: or I wish I were born fifty years later than
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I was, just because of what's going to happen in
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the future kind of thing. But you know, it's just
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated about where computers are going to go and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: just how fast society and technology is moving. I don't
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: think that way anymore. I'm thinking, you know, thank goodness,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be there in twenty thirty.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Years or forty years.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: What do you suspect the first five mass extinctions that
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: have happened to our Earth were caused.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: By those were not caused. Well, it could be global warming,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: but natural global warming.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh so that's better.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Is better if it's natural?
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: No, it's just different. It's just different.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Do you wait for And by the way, there are
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: no humans, then that is correct.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But we do know that carbon dioxide is in fact
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: cause is the leading cause of warming because of the
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: ozone later, et cetera. And that's the argument that people
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: are using. That is an argument. Is the is the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: is the natural? There have been warming trends, There has been,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: There have been global warming and global cooling. It's just
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that we are definitely speeding it up. And there's no
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: question that. Are you saying that emissions don't have anything
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to do?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Of course they do. But I'm saying if China doesn't
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: get on it, there's nothing Little Old America is going
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: to be able to do.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Except China's jumping on it faster than we are, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that's the shame of it. At the same time, they're
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: building coal coal fire plants because they're using enormous amounts
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: of energy.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Earth will be fine. We'll all be dead.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it will all be dead. I don't think
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the Earth is going to be fine, but then you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a pessimist. Nothing's gonna be fine. Now give me
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a break. You know, what's my philosophy?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: You know? Hey, how's the things doing? I wake up,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna work, I'm gonna retire, then I'm gonna die.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: So what's new with you?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Something that I've been talking about, matter of fact, years
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: and years, even way back in my law school days
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: is genetically modified people and or animals.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: One of the things.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I've talked about and we've discussed is how science is
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: way ahead of the law or the law. Science happens first,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: and then the law follows. How do you deal with science?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And one of sciences, I guess one of scariest or
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: more interesting aspect, just call.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Is genetic engineering.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Genetically modifying people and or animals. Now, a couple things,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: we're there. Okay, we can genetically modify people. I mean,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: is that scary? Go right into the genes and you
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: move those those genes around, and you can even tell
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and the and the good part of it is you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: can genetically modify uh An embryo to get rid of.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Diseases syndromes that are already there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: In other words, you can go into an embryo and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: pull out enough material to determine if someone going to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: have Huntington's TASAC sickle cell anemia.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So who's going to.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Argue that to create kids who don't have those diseases
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: is uh, is not a wonderful thing. However, that same
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: philosophy means can they make it? Can the doctors make
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: someone bigger, stronger, faster? Yeah, that too, And there is
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the line, well, uh, it's moving forward on genetically modified
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: animals because that's going even quicker. And there was proposed
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: legislation to protect animals from Frankenstein like medical experimentation. In
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: other words, uh, what the glow in the dark rabbits,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: which they've had. You can actually have a rabbit that's
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: glow in the darkically modifying the rabbit. And so there
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: was a bill introduced by assembly Member Leticia Castillo, Republican,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: which would have banned the sale of genetically modified animals
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: in California, glow in the dark rabbits, horned unicorn horses,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: for example. And what was interesting is while she introduced
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the bill. She actually brought her three headed dog and said, hey,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: we do not want this, okay, so who it makes sense?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you really want it to Well, it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: kind of neat to have glow in the in the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: dark rabbits, so you have to turn the light on.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Define them or all kinds of genetically modified animals. We
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: already do genetically modified corn, for example, do you know
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: most of the corn today that you eat is genetically modified.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It's very hard to even find corn that is not.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And the same thing with crops all over the world.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I mean it just this is what happens. You can
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: make crops last longer. You can have three crops per
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: year instead of two. You can make crops pesticide. You
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: can now so you don't pesticide, so they are pest resistance.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: That's all the good stuff.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: The problem is is that the bad stuff is right
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: there also, same technology does both. The example is you're
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: saying that these take the same technology to create civilian
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: aircraft that you do to create military aircraft. One is great,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: one not so great. That was a terrible analogy, by
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the way. In any case, the bill that was introduced
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: died it just died. Why, I mean, do we really
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: want modified animals? I don't know, Neil, you're not an
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: animal person. Let me ask Amy. You're an animal person.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Why would you say I'm not an animal just because
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I don't have it?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And you know what you do with animals, slavery? Yeah,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you you eat them. I get that. That's that's your
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: connection to animals.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Genetically modify a chicken with more legs and more wings
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: and be cheaper when you go out.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: All right, the three legged chicken. Why did the chicken
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: cross the road? It couldn't it has three legs? Amy, cat,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: what about modify your cat?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Would you? Nope?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Even if you could make it sick illness free?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so see that. I don't see there's the question.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Where is the line? You see?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Well, with a cat who's had a running nose for
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: like six months, if I could stop that, yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, and and you can create the odd cats
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that don't have running nose, that are not susceptible that
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: or was distant or no no no nose, good, no dose,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: no nose. And I have two little doxies and I
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: want to be able to get them to really jack
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: up one of their paws to give me a zeghil,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And I am convinced that we can genetically modify those animals.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And you have dogs, genetically modify your dog? Yes or no?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Huh.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing I'm trying to I would genetically
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: modify my dogs to speak German and sing uh the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: national anthem during World War two Deutschlen, Deutschlen dub ah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: This all right? Uh? Yeah, we're going off on these tangents.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: One you know, not.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: We in any case.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: One of the downsides, one of the reasons that it
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: failed is that it's just too damn expensive. They're saying,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: because the analysis this by in the Appropriations Committee said
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: of potentially significant workload cost to the state, the state
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: funded trial court system, because there are going to be
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: so many lawsuits, it's going to bog down the courts.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Hmm, all right, see that's tough stuff. I mean, what
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: do you do.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I had the same problem. What do you do with
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: different technology? How does the law keep up with all that?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And in many cases it doesn't and it takes a while.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: All right, We're done with that. Genetically modified animals.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: How about that? Will do you have a dog or
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a Cat, I did. They're dead. Thank you for reminding me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Okay did they die because they were overweight? You fed
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: them too much? No, we're old, Oh like you? Okay, Okay,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: we're done, guys. That's it. Peene coming up.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: It's Footy Friday right here on KFI A M six forty.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: You've been listening to The Bill Handle Show.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Catch my Show Monday through Friday, six am to nine am,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app