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#572 - CyHi Reflects on G.O.O.D. Music Days, Relationship with Kanye, Pusha T & New Album “Mr. Egot” · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Do you currently still have a relationship with ya?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, that's my that's my guy. Bro.
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  Speaker 3: I can't man, I may saved my life, Bro, I
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  Speaker 3: can't you know when he you know, says what he
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  Speaker 3: says in the public, I'm a lot more privy to
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  Speaker 3: the full conversation versus the public.
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  Speaker 4: Mats Special get here one of the greatest on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir at this rapping shit Sy High the Prince.
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  Speaker 2: The show, I Mister Got. Y'all know the name, yo?
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  Speaker 4: First of all, brother, what what has been the like
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  Speaker 4: the whole up? We've been waiting so long for new music,
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  Speaker 4: new albums? So No Dope on Sundays was a fucking
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  Speaker 4: incredible body of work. And it's funny because I didn't
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  Speaker 4: realize how long ago it's been because I you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to Ace. It hit me and I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 4: what For some reason, I was like twenty eighteen, twenty nine,
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  Speaker 4: it was twenty seventeen though in eight years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I named my album the Story of Mister
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  Speaker 3: e Got. I want to give you a little context behind.
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  Speaker 3: Yes please, the acronym e Got is Emmy Grammy Oscar
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  Speaker 3: Tony right, and it was thought of by Philip Michael Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: So he's the black guy from Miami Vice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So he had a bunch of dreams and a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of musical and acting at you know, things that he
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do in life, and he never.
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  Speaker 2: Got to do.
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  Speaker 3: Those things do to politics and people not believing in them,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that.
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  Speaker 2: Comes you know, I relate to that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So being a hip hop here from Atlanta is
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  Speaker 3: a dynamic thing when you go to these labels and
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  Speaker 3: you're telling them like, hey, I got eighteen samples, but
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  Speaker 3: where's the trap song? That too, But a trap song
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  Speaker 3: is easier to clear clear.
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  Speaker 2: You know, pay this little young produce with some money,
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  Speaker 2: print it out. Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: With me, I'm really trying to do something that's groundbreaking,
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  Speaker 3: something that lasts forever, something that you know, stays in
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  Speaker 3: people lives. And you know, I have these A list
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  Speaker 3: artists where unfortunately my friends aren't like local jokers.
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  Speaker 4: If I could say, also not the easiest things to
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  Speaker 4: clear people, A lot of your homies are on major labels.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, you got to push, you got not push. It's
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  Speaker 2: hard to clear, but you got ya traf.
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  Speaker 3: You got all these A listeners. So you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think it scares them a lot of times. So a
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  Speaker 3: lot of things I have to like work through a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the business side of it to really get
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  Speaker 3: the piece of work that I want to put out
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  Speaker 3: versus like a diluted version of right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: So for you, it's been kind of so I can
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  Speaker 4: only imagine, right, there's probably so many different versions of
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  Speaker 4: what your next album is supposed to be. On this
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  Speaker 4: album is it because you probably never stopped recording?
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  Speaker 2: Right? No?
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  Speaker 4: But what what is like what made because over this
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  Speaker 4: period of time, is there a lot of older stuff
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  Speaker 4: on this project that like was just no matter what
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  Speaker 4: this is so time was so good that whatever I
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  Speaker 4: do next this has to be on it.
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  Speaker 1: Or was it all new stuff?
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  Speaker 3: Like well, I would say about eighty percent of it
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  Speaker 3: is new. Twenty percent of it is like stuff that
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  Speaker 3: Yay gave me just out of the like you know,
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  Speaker 3: he man trying to wrap on that. Man, I heard
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  Speaker 3: you on this beat and I've always kept it to
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  Speaker 3: like really add it to a body of work. But
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: most of it is done in this you know, past year,
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  Speaker 3: year or two, and like I said, it's just something
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  Speaker 3: that I'm just working through, just trying to get everything together.
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  Speaker 3: On the business side, the clearances, these are a list
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  Speaker 3: artists and a lot of times, man, these labels don't
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  Speaker 3: be one to clear because they rather me help the artists.
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  Speaker 1: They rather you come in lend your pins, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because they it's usually a swap.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah right right, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna come and help you out, but I need the future.
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  Speaker 2: But then they're like, man, if we get this metal feature,
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  Speaker 2: who's gonna do you? In a sense? You know. So
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that goes into it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just me like, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: want to be great and want to put out a
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  Speaker 3: great body of work. And it's nothing that it is
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  Speaker 3: cheap to do. And I think a lot of time
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  Speaker 3: people have cheapen hip hop. So you know, when you
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  Speaker 3: look at you know, your greatest albums all time, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna take a little bit of effort. And you know
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  Speaker 3: all the money that I spent far as flying around,
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  Speaker 3: you know, facilitating these sessions, and you know, I might
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  Speaker 3: stay with an artist for a month and a half
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  Speaker 3: just to get this feature, but I got to pay.
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  Speaker 2: Hotels, flights, you know what I mean. I'm doing a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just you know, but it's getting prepared and
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  Speaker 3: it's ready to go. So we got a few more
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  Speaker 3: little kinks to work out, but it is how are
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  Speaker 3: you releasing the album? So right now, I'm with empirement
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  Speaker 3: because I wanted to be able to see something from
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  Speaker 3: this album as well. I don't want to be able
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  Speaker 3: to give it to a major and they, you know,
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  Speaker 3: not do what they supposed to do, and it's like
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  Speaker 3: you be critically acclaimed, but you don't get none of
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  Speaker 3: the residuals from it. So I wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 3: this time I'm critically acclaimed because that's just what I am.
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  Speaker 3: But also I get to see the residuals from you know, you.
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  Speaker 1: Need to own your masters.
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  Speaker 4: And like the thing about like what's stuff about Empire
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  Speaker 4: is that they will do the label shit for you
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  Speaker 4: right right, but you don't have to worry about giving
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  Speaker 4: up like the music, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: That's like it's a good situation over.
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  Speaker 4: There, and they're really good at like you know, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like you're the type of artist that needs to
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  Speaker 4: be in those Grammy conversations and they've done a really
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  Speaker 4: good job of of like you know, whether it's like
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  Speaker 4: the Freddie Gibs Alfredo projects was a project that was
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  Speaker 4: on Empire.
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  Speaker 1: That was nominated for a rap out there. Sure, so no,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good fit.
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  Speaker 3: And they and they and they're moving like a major now.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, they got Shaboozi Shaboozie.
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  Speaker 1: The number one biggest Billboard record of all time is
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  Speaker 1: the Empire, right.
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  Speaker 3: So they're they're understanding that side of it, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what I That's what I love about them too. So
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  Speaker 3: I just think, like I said, it's a few kinks
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  Speaker 3: we need to work out. But I think on the
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  Speaker 3: most part, I think, you know, we're gonna get it
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  Speaker 3: together and try to get it out the next couple
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  Speaker 3: of months.
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  Speaker 4: That's important, man, talk to me for you like I
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  Speaker 4: feel like, you know, I always have these conversations where
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  Speaker 4: I feel like there's a few rap Jedis, I think
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  Speaker 4: of Loop A Fiasco, Black Thought, Royce, I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to forget. I mean, there's a lot of guys, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Freddy's in that convo. I think Jid's getting in that convo.
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  Speaker 4: But you're in that conversation where you are one of
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  Speaker 4: just you know, one of the guys that nobody wants
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  Speaker 4: it with. And when we talk about just mastering the
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  Speaker 4: the skill of just this MC shit, you are in
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  Speaker 4: you know, a tier of your own. You have very
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  Speaker 4: few peers. Do you feel like you're underrated for is
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  Speaker 4: it because of the lack of music that you know?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, because you have some amazing mixtapes like Black
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  Speaker 4: History Mixtape I've just listened to a few months ago.
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  Speaker 1: We got to bring that PIF back.
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  Speaker 4: But but like, why do you feel like you're a
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  Speaker 4: little underrated? Because you've had these huge moments on records
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  Speaker 4: and you have you know, even when when No Jope
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  Speaker 4: on Sundays came out, I mean, fuck man, everybody was
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  Speaker 4: fucking like I feel like you said, like that was
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  Speaker 4: critically acclaimed, people loved it, but you're still underrated.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 2: Because I make you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about this the other day.
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  Speaker 3: It's like I'm just a solid nigga, So I make
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  Speaker 3: sure my friends are overrated. And a lot of times,
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  Speaker 3: like I grew up being this high level rapper and
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  Speaker 3: I've always got that accolade. And I have peers that
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  Speaker 3: never got it right and they called me, and I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I give a lot of my time to
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  Speaker 3: their projects, you know what I'm saying. So a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things, A lot of the albums you guys love, My.
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  Speaker 2: Energy is there.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, I'm not gonna say which ones.
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  Speaker 5: It was easy to figure that out, right, but you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I'm in the room, so I
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  Speaker 5: think that's what's you know, been my thing, and I
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  Speaker 5: want to you know, that's why I named the album
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  Speaker 5: mister Egot as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's just me being a part of.
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  Speaker 3: Those think tanks of music and you should use this sample,
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  Speaker 3: you should shoot the video like this, you should dress
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  Speaker 3: like this. Like a lot of that is my influence,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I want to be
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  Speaker 3: able to show that on my album and people can
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  Speaker 3: actually see like, oh, this is what he's been giving
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  Speaker 3: us for the past twenty years or fifteen years since
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  Speaker 3: you know, you've really heard me in the I would
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  Speaker 3: say from what I was, I would say my career
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  Speaker 3: like officially started like two thousand.
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  Speaker 2: And nine ten era.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because Girls Summer was twenty ten. That was on
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  Speaker 1: my Beautiful Dark No, I know, but I'm thinking, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, you were you Oh yeah, you were dark
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  Speaker 1: because you were you were part of the whole, the
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  Speaker 1: whole what was this shit called when y'all had the
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  Speaker 1: suits on the and the good Fridays. Yeah, you are
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  Speaker 1: some of the best, good Friday record. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: that is one thing. For the love of christ. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Kanye is just putting out random ship right now. If
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  Speaker 1: we could just get a good Friday dsp drop right No,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, that ship that was a fucking era. That
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  Speaker 1: was an era, man, blog era of hip hop. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: good Fridays was like.
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  Speaker 4: What was the the talib record, the chain heavy ship,
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  Speaker 4: the ship with the J Cole.
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  Speaker 3: Record was was crazy looking for trouble, looking for trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was the time. Man.
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  Speaker 3: I missed those days too, because it was like kind
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  Speaker 3: of when we were all together, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: not even not even just on the music side, on
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: the on the fashion side, like with Virgil, was there done?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: I just think, man.
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  Speaker 2: The powers that be broke us up.
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  Speaker 1: Mmm.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I think the powers that be started Nick picking at
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: that situation. You know how it be like when you
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: win a championship and everybody to go to Golden State
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  Speaker 3: and try to get all their players off.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: The team or the coaches or the coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened to us.
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  Speaker 3: Like he got so powerful that people was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: we'll take We'll take the third stream.
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  Speaker 2: Just give us big shun, come over here, darn I.
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  Speaker 3: Get over So they was just nit picking at us,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's what kind of like took out
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  Speaker 3: those key clogs in our in our you know, in
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  Speaker 3: our situation. I think everybody start doing their own thing
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  Speaker 3: and then you know it's spared from there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not what for you man?
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  Speaker 4: That era at you're kind of like because at that time,
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  Speaker 4: like Sean's not quite Sean yet, right, uh, You're you're,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, new on the scene. It's really like
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: pusha T's probably the guy because Common wasn't really around.
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  Speaker 4: That was kind of passed, like Common being around the
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: Good Ship too much.
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  Speaker 2: But now Becoming was around that time during that time.
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  Speaker 1: To change was around to change.
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  Speaker 4: But I just want like what, like what what were
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: some of your fondest memories were you like, because I
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  Speaker 4: feel like that's a point in time and like that
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  Speaker 4: leading up to My Beautiful Dark Tress and Fantasy where
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  Speaker 4: it's like it's it's there was an aesthetic about that
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: time period of the Good Music Ship and it really
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  Speaker 4: did feel like you, like you said, like like a
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  Speaker 4: team until it wasn't until it felt like well something,
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  Speaker 4: what's going on? Here, like everybody's kind splintering, everyone's kind
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  Speaker 4: of going their own direction.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I think, man, it started with I would say yay,
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  Speaker 3: was a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say.
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  Speaker 3: I won't want to say focused, because he's super focused
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  Speaker 3: at all times.
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  Speaker 2: I just think he was taking his time back there.
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  Speaker 2: I remember he was. He was writing his wraps. I
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  Speaker 2: was like one of the things, like he's he never
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: rolled a wrap after that.
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  Speaker 1: Little things, those little thing.
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  Speaker 3: I remember he used to walk around with this notebook,
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  Speaker 3: this little yellow and you know, the little yellow thing.
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  Speaker 3: He had all these raps and he would wrap them
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  Speaker 3: to me and I could I was just fanned out
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  Speaker 3: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: I would that that was during.
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  Speaker 1: That time, I'm happy to be here, right, So.
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  Speaker 2: Back in those days, that's I think that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, it was coming off the
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift thing, and I think he had I just
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: think that everybody was focused. Everybody was like, we're coming
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  Speaker 3: back to like prove the world wrong that this man is.
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  Speaker 2: The greatest curator, producer.
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  Speaker 3: Artist, whatever to ever live. And I think we accomplished that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think by all counts, like the album
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  Speaker 4: that came out of that period was perfect, perfect, And
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  Speaker 4: I think when you talk about like the greatest albums
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  Speaker 4: of all time, I I just I there's the Omatics,
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  Speaker 4: there's the I think Doggie styles in the Corbo, and
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  Speaker 4: it's like my beautiful darkness and fantasy is just.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing I want to say, I freestyled my
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  Speaker 3: verse off the top off the and that shit was like.
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  Speaker 2: I was just in there playing man.
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  Speaker 3: The story to that is so crazy, man, because I
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: had you know how they say God gives and take it.
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  Speaker 3: And during that time, my sister was battling cancer and she.
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  Speaker 2: Passed away while I was out there, damn.
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  Speaker 3: And at the same time, I had got a chick
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  Speaker 3: pregnant and she wanted to have an abortion. And I'm
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: telling her it's like, you know what's going on right now,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: you know what's going on, And she wasn't trying to
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: hear it because at that time she was like her
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: career was taken off. She's like, man, it's like young
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  Speaker 3: nig I'm dealing with I ain't fnna be And I
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  Speaker 3: was just such in a low place and I'll never forget.
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  Speaker 3: I was on the way to the abortion clinic and
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  Speaker 3: Yay called me from like an eight o eight number,
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  Speaker 3: Hawaii number, but I didn't know it was him because
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: he didn't have a phone at the time.
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  Speaker 2: He only used email at the time.
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  Speaker 1: He was like super locked in Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: Right And I thought it was the weed man from
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  Speaker 3: Hawaii because I was he always used to call random
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  Speaker 3: Hawaii numbers. But he hit me like, y'all this yay
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  Speaker 3: I'm like what click. He called me back, y'all this
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: yay man. I'm like, bro quick playing on my phone
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: hung up again. He called back again, like, man, why
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: you play like nah? This kin for real? Bro? I
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: mean here with Jay and b Man. They just told me, man,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I got to keep you on this record. You just
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: first you did on Stow Parp. Fucking crazy. He just
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: going crazy on the phone, and I'm just like I
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: just seen a light at the end of the tunnel
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: and that moment kind of like saved my life.
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  Speaker 2: He just saved my life in general.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: But that right there, him and beyond saying Jay Z
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: in the room all at one time, was.
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  Speaker 1: Just on a riz beat, on a risk beat.
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  Speaker 3: Just like, yo, you've killed this like I gotta That
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  Speaker 3: was like one of my highlights. And I always my
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: dream was always to do a record with Yay and Jay.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Is he just separately though?
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: You come out the gate.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I think God did that. He messed me up.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, God, you could have like set that bar
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: like that was.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: You hadn't dropped Real Flush yet, right, that was?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: No, that's the album that That's.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like Real Flesh was.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it had just came out, or it had just
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: came Real Flesh mixtape just came out. I'll never forget.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: When I walked in the studio, Yay was playing it.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: He was playing Stutter, he was playing Sedel, you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: he was playing all my mixtape joints. And when I
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: walked he was like yo, and everybody like, oh, there
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: he goes. It was just like a big ever Rolls
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: was right there. It was just like this ship is unreal,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So that was like, you know,
• 16:45
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• 17:33
  Speaker 1: What is uh?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: It feels like, uh, you know, things are crazy at
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: the moment, but you know, what is your relationship?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Do you do you currently still have a relationship with Yah?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, that's my that's my guy.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I can't man, that may saved my life, Bro, I can't.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And you know me, I'm.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Privy to a lot of conversation behind the scenes, so
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you know when he you know, says what he says
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: in the public. I'm a lie more privy to the
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: full conversation, so he gets to explain it more to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: me versus the public just get a little clip or
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of the ship that like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: he's the point he was trying to prove with some
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: of the ship was like very like understandable. It's the
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: delivery where it's like you're gonna lose a lot of
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: people with And that's with anything Kanye or not. It's
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: like the delivery. If it isn't, it's almost like you gotta.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Because you don't know him well.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: It's also like it's also like you gotta feel like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: you know, if you had to feed your your dogs
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: in medicine, you got to put the medicine in a
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: treat get them to take it, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of shit he's.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Saying about pointing out like, hey, uh, there's an entire
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: industry that eats off of black trauma and pain and
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: it's okay. But if I bring up someone else's I
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: get that point. I get that perspective.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I just feel like the way he you know, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think, yeah, you know, I'm a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: fucking but, like I always say off record, bout the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: goddamn im about to got him stem player because I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: love Kanye so much. It's right there, Oh right, I spend.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: But like I said off record, if you get to
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: sit around him at dinner, or you get to walk
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the beach with him on pool side or take a
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: car ride, is deliver a lot different for sure, But
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you know it's you know, people don't get to see
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: that much of him.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I got to have like a cool convo with him.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I was there the night that Vultures was supposed to
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: come out, and they yeah, and I went with Tie
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: and uh that was what was that? At the Four
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Seasons in Vegas we finished the album. It was like
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: it was chaos in that room, but it was so
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: fucking cool. But I got this was the first time
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I met Kanye when I was little because my brother
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Rams is his brother is in a group called Dilated People,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: so and they opened up the College Dropout Tour. So
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I got a picture with Kanye when I was like fifteen.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: But then I got to chop it up with him
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: at that event. It was it wasn't even an event
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: at that whatever the fuck in his hotel, his finishing
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: vultures and super nice guy man. But no, I wonder
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: what are your thoughts man, because you obviously are really close.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: You're kind of in this weird perspective perspective because one
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you're you're very much tied in with everybody. How does
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: it feel to kind of see like this push of
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Travis thing happening because you're good with both of them,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: and you know, for me, it's like it's just like
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: as a good music guy, you know, like that's how
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Lifted put me on the Travis Scott remember the producer
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Lifted before our Pharaoh Drop. I remember Lifted was like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: you don't understand this kid's the future, so I know
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: him through good music and to just see the whole
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I guess the you know, whatever you want to call
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: it's going on right now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: You know, like some people are like dream driven and
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: some people are like integrity based, and I think those
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: two things can class sometimes.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And what I mean is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Like like early on in my career, I had a
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: beat that no Id Yay gave me that no Id
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: did Okay Those gonna be My first single is Whoopedy
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: dude with me and Big Sean. I had to just
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: settle for it being a mixtape song because it really
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: need even come out because NAS wanted to beat because
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: No I d gay to beat.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: The Naves, Trav would have went on and put that
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: out to fuck it, fuck it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Me, I'm integrity based. I'm like, okay this, no ide this, Yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I gotta this.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: NAS. I don't want to mess Nast.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I might want to do a record NOS later.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, versus I should have put
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that out and reconciled with NAS later. You get what
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: And to me, I think that's what the mindset trapped
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: me in. Sometimes it's like I got this record. It
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: might be dissing my partners or disappear by love you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: fuck with. But it's like, I'm not gonna turn down
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: a Drake feature, right, you get what I'm saying, versus
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: like to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Me, I'm gonna be like, hey, Drake, how you doing? Man?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I love the verse man appreciated. It's just one line,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: can you like change that one? Fuck me?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Just so I ain't in the middle of that like
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: on the on the lighter side, right, you know, try
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I ain't do that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Well I wonder too because you are also like in
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: a similar because you helped write on Sickle Mode and
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: a lot of people would say that Drake took some
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: slight shots.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And that got me in a pickle. Yeah, you know
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: what I mean. But I didn't know Drake was gonna
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: be on it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Because that was the one that got like that record
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: got finished, really like close to the finished line of
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: the album being turned in, So you didn't even know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: like I'm writing on this record, there's these issues behind
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: the scenes, and then the song comes out and you're like.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Ah fuck.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like Drake, no album,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and whose song? He can do that? All right? You
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: You know that if he feel like you ain't gonna
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: do nothing, he gonna put it on your album, you
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: But me, he can't do that on me.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do that on everybody.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody, because everybody's like, hey man, Dre, I love you.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Bro Versus was incredible, but you gotta gotta change that one, right,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So that's how I would have took it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that something where you had to like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: tell ya, like, yo, hey, I didn't I didn't know that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely did.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know he was I know he I
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: didn't even know he dissed him until I like, like
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I actually knew where Drake stayed in the neighborhood because
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I hadn't like been in his house and stuff like that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Well I had, but I didn't know that they stayed
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: in the same neighborhood. I was like a you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: lower on the Total Bowl, those type of questions. But
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: after I figured it out, was like, dang, why you
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: let him do us like that?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: You being still super close with Push, being super close
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: with Ya still, do you feel like there's ever a
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: chance to like ever get those two guys together again?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I can't. I mean, I don't know.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, they both successful, great human beings. I just
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: think they just think differently, and I like, I'm a
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: little bit of hybrid. So I was a good kid
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: growing up. I was a terrible kid, mean me, but
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I wasn't a street dude until I got into like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the tenth grade, like seventeen eighteen.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Then I start getting into the streets.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Then I understood street politics and how they think. So
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I understand what push you're saying, and I understand what
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you're saying, so I can't even like, I mean, it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: nothing that I can put together because I'm not.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't have that much cachet.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: That's fair really like bring them two together. But hopefully, man,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: one day in the future we get to like relive
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: those moments, like I miss Tya and Jay together, Like
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I just missed those moments.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Like nah, for sure, we all do shit.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: That's heartbreaking, bro.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I probably my favorite tour I've ever been to was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a heartbreaking Yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I think he's his tour
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: is probably my favorite tour. But jay Z and Yay
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: together was crazy. The Wash the Throne tour was insane.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I wonder because you know, right now it feels like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: how do you feel about the Kendrick Drake shit that transpired?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: It feels like it has brought back a certain attention
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and appetite for rapping and people breaking down lyrics, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of like, you know, I got
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: to give it to Kendrick because when you got a
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: six and a half minute record like Euphoria come out,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: you got the whole world breaking it down online, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: there's so many lines.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: In there to you know, dissect, you know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: And and I see the excitement for this CLIPS album
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: and their rollout has been incredible and j I D
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Just just did something dope. It feels like that this
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: is like a perfect time for this album.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Man, it's so crazy, Like I'm cool with all those
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: guys like me and j I D.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Is from the same part of town.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Man, he's fucking incredible.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Uh, Drake and Kendrick just they actually made made it
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: so if you can't wrap, you got to sit on
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the sideline. Yeah, And I think that's what rap's been missing.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I think, I mean, their situation is a little tricky.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I really think people were taking it too serious, like
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it's just a rap battle, man, And that's the way
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I would want those type of rap battles to happen,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: because you know, truly in America, when you rap about somebody,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: it's it's somebody's dropping.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: It's some adualties of that. Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: So the fact that, I mean, I know they probably
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: had little situations going on around it, but I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that was good for hip hop. I think Drake is
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: an amazing artist. I think Kendrick is an amazing artist,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: but I think Kendrick is a little more from that claw.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: That claw. Yeah, and you know what's curry. I would
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: tell people this Drake gave it a little more than
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: it he should have gave it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think he paid too much attention to it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was just it ain't that serious kind
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: of Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: It's almost like it started off with like a line
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: and the line.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Was like, motherfuck.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: The Big three issues speak to me like I get it,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: but it's like you really didn't have to sign up
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: for this brou.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: But it ain't even I'm just I'm just saying it
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: in a fun like like this is what I thought. Like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: you know, during the pandemic, Drake had the caffeine battle lead.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, you hear them, dudes.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: They they said some egregious.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Ship for insane shit for sure.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: And they after the battle they smoke a blood, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: they dapping up like it ain't no violence or no
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: kind of real animosity towards that, and they talking. I
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: see some of the pre battles when they like doing
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: the like face off, they talking to each other.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Crazy, and then afterwards it's like a good game man.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like, if you love that culture and
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: understand that, you know that you really ain't a fat
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: of five.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Were just saying your teetering the line that you're too
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: low to mold up.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: That's why I think that Euphoria was such a perfect record,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: because it was it almost foresaw everything and it was
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the biggest warning ever.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Hey, you could take it down if you want, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: just know, because I think we missed out on the
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: lot of like, what's.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Drake new record?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: What did I miss?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: People would have put that out You're in the rap bottle.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: And said so personally, he should have been like, man,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: you know, he's a great artist, one of the greatest
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: artists in hip hop for right from America. You know,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: salute to him. I'm coming back with my new ship.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Wait on this, What did I miss?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: You would have got that?
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just don't know if it ever be
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the same man.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that would have been dope just to
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: get it in that time period.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I just know when that Meet the Grahams came out
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: right after Drake put out that other ship, like thirty
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: minutes later, you get that Meet the Grahams over that
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Alchemist spectally just like.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was like a horror movie, right it was.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It was man.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: And then you know the other thing too, is like
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Kao followed up with like a commercially viable album. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: he's got the you know that the critic Darling albums.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: You know, you know why he did that. You know
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: how he could have did that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And this is what I tell he never pandered his
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: whole career. Never he could have did that West Coast album.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Anytime a Butterfly gave you, he's damn he gave you
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: everything else.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: So by the time he needed that Ace car, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: could do this too. It didn't even sound.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Like and not like us set the set the table
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: for him to Oh, no, y'all like that, I got something.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I got a whole project after.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: So he to me, that's he's just in you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: he integrity man like he takes he's an integrity goud know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Kendrick like, oh, he's staying like you said.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I think that's why him and Pusher, So they're very
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: aligned in that because you you just I mean, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: know a lot about Kadok, like some stuff behind the
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: scenes where it's like he watches how.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: People move and if people move or do certain things.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: It's I just automatically know, like he's okay, well this
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: is how you move.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You're over there now.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: For when I ran into him, the first thing, he
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: was like, Man, I'm glad you okay, Bro, I heard
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: about your situation. And this was like two years after
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: my situation happened. I'm like, damn, bro, I appreciate that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: You know he was on the Freshman cover together.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Damn that's crazy.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And we was like that was my best Like.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Was Meek mill on that too? It was Meek You.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Meet me, Kendrick, little B, Big Crid, little B. Why
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: G was on there? Why G was on there? Fred
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to God's Son?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yellow Wolf, yell God.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Damn the Yellow Wolf. A few a few, a few
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: weeks ago.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: You did well. I see what wolfs doing doing? Good man.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I love wolf Man.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: But at that at that at that whole week we
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: was together, Kendrick was like the one I kind of
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: vibe with, Like me and him was kind of like,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: and you got your jedis Man, so I respect him.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. What a legendary Freshman cover? You like, look back,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: It's funny too, because I really remember vividly like people
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: not liking YG being on that cover because at that time,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think the industry really up from a big
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: perspec But it's like why G's had a fucking career and.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: He like he's a etiche is super dope. Like I
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: don't know if they knew he was gonna be there.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't know he was gonna be there because I
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: think he.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Was gonna be that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you didn't boot it going up, and he
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: had mixtapes like La Shit going.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: But I feel like, but I think La. I knew
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: he had that potential because he's from La, and.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: My Crazy Life came out and just I feel like
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is La.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Know how to keep the artists rounded, right, Like you
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: ain't got no choice. Then you got to come home.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: You got to deal with these politics, right, So it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: like come on home, brother, like so you mind will stay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: you know, in tune. And I think he just sharpening
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: his image up, put out some great songs, put some
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: great bodies of work, and you know, you got artists
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: like you know, y'all got a great musical.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: It's a great musical city in LA.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: With it is doctor Dre right now. It's feeling good too, man.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: And like right now, it feels like a lot of
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the industry is it's either Atlanta or LA in terms
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: of the artist, the studios, you know. I mean, obviously
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: New York is still always gonna be New York, but
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: it feels like everybody kind of is ending up in
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: LA or Atlanta.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: See even in Atlanta. Like that's the thing, Like.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: It's harder in Atlanta because they don't really respect the
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: music side of That's what I've been pushing. That's why
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: my plight has been a little tougher because I've always
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: pushed music and my city is just so street. It's like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: who do have smacked some who got the bags? Who
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: laid some shit down? And it's like I feel like
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: that kind of put us, you know, the louchi thug stuff.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: It kind of like made us have to take a
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: step back and evaluate. That's why you haven't heard a
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: lot of music come out Atlanta. And I think, now,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: who's about.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Like belly Gang, Cushy Tins.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my guy.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: See belly Gang is like what the new Atlanta about
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: to sound.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I'm just glad because he's back, like I feel like
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I told him this. I'm like, man, it's good to
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: hear a new artist rapping about getting it and not
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: rapping about killing their ops, right, because that's kind of
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: like it's like, all right, dude, the op killing shit's
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: got a chill, Like we get it, Like, let's get
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: back to these bars of this money like one of
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: the two, you know what I'm saying. But now I
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: feel like, obviously Jaed D's I feel like jaded. He's
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: gonna take a big leap man.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: And when you think about Belly Gang two, Belly Gang
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: got bars, Belly Gang finisg he ain't just swagging and
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: trap money with you. He really saying some shit.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And he's super.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: The thing about him too that I love is he's
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: vulnerable on his record, you know, very open with his ship.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: He's not afraid to be vulnerable. He's not afraid to
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: talk about his mom and you know shit that he's
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: going through in life. So I think that's one of
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: the most important things as an artist you can have.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, you gotta stop the interview. You want to give
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a shout out.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: The only thing we smoke, ladies and gentlemen is slap Woods.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Make sure you follow them at slap Woods. And you
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: know the reason why we smoked Flapwoods, it's literally because
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: they slap You ain't smoking slabbers. What the fuck are
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: you doing? Get back to you for.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: You on this project? What is like is there? Do
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you feel like you got a chip on your shoulder?
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: You're trying to prove something with this album because when
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: you think of mister E got right, When I think
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: of of all those awards, it's not.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: That many people who are ego. I think Jennifer Hudson's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that he.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Got, yeah, Jif Legendohn Legend. Oh, it's a few actors
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: that have it as well.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That's a big thing to manifest, the big thing to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: put out there.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Right Well, I think before I was kicked out of school,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I was doing theater. I was going to Soapstone that's
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: what it's called in Atlanta. But you know, I was
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: doing theater, plays, different things like that, played in the band,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I did a little bit everything, just being a creative, yeah, creator,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: and then the streets just took over.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So it was just like fuck.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: But I think the way I wanted to do this
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: album is I just wanted to kind of give my
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: life story in different perspectives. So I broke my like
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: how royal flush is you know, Presser Spade, Press of
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Diamonds for I did Emmys feel like a television show,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Grammy sound, Grand Oscar sounds suspenseful, movie score, and Tony
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: is like live drums, spoken word, you know what I mean.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of like the conglomerate of music that
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I put together for this album.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And yes it is.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I do got to point to prove because I'm showing
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: niggas like you can't fuck with me on this mic.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm really showing it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: But also in depth, I'm showing you first person, third person.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: It's suspenseful, it's giving you different perspectives. I got different
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: characters on it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It's like a.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Full fledged like collage of just art and music with
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: a street foundation to it. I don't think nobody has
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: ever heard anything like this, Like this is gonna be groundbreaking,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Like my goal is to win the Emmy Ran Me, Oscar,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Tony on one album. That's big, So let's go, let's go,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: let's get it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: It's too because you know I would I say that
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: like you you you were talking earlier about like Yay
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: writing his ship down for that album, and I feel
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: like we've gotten so into this like punching culture and
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: hip hop where like people aren't taking their time of
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: making songs as much. Everything's microwavable, and it's like you
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: can't make time a music unless you take.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Time doing it, you know what I'm saying, right, Like.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: You got to be intentional with every line, every bar,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: and it's like that's just out the window these days.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: And that's my thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: My thing is conceptually driven. Like I don't be like
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: like a lot of people be trying to compare like
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: artists rappers to me because they lyrical. Like I'm not lyrical.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: It's disrespectful to call me lyrical. Like I'm lyrical, But
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: these are things that I experienced. This ain't no shit
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I read in the fucking text book, right, And a
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: lot of yeah, a lot of these new lyrics is
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: are like just smart kids who dropped out of college, right,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean that I'm not a drop
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: out of college.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I dropped out in tenth grade. You know what I'm saying.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: This shit is experiences that I just that was just
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: you know, embedded in my brain and I just regurgitate
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: them into music and put it on the mic and
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: it just comes out like that.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like you know you said like this
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: is this is your life? And we talked a little
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: bit earlier about kind of the Atlanta scene and how
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: crazy it is kind of like you feel when you
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: were coming up and doing what you were doing in
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: the streets, Like I kind of feel like kind of
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: talk about concepts of the concept of the last album
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: was very much like there.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Was at least some sort of like.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Unwritten rules to follow, some sort of standards you wouldn't
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: cross in the streets.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like this new generation, all that shit's
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: out the window.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of that is out the window.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: And it's it's because everybody want to be famous, everybody
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: want to make money, and they just go to the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: furthest extent to do it. Like I'm gonna walk it down,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna rush my situation no matter what
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: it is, like, i just gotta walk it down slowly,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: but surely I gotta hit them all. So I think
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of times guys want to skip those steps
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: so expedite they they fame or you know that feelings.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: So what they do, they they passed the integrity line.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Ain't gonna do some shit, that's just sure, and deal
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: with the consequences later, you know what I mean.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: But when you're from the street like.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Them, consequences came back asap, so you gotta be very careful.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing where it's like the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: fine line between hip hop is like we have let
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: you know, the ambitious kids in that you know, after
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Yay dropped out of college, like a lot of these
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: kids are like not from that that that grass understanding
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: like the repercussions of disrespecting somebody or you got the
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: streamers that just came.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Oh man, the disrespect.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: This is weird. I'm on line.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: All I'm seeing is people blowing up firecrackers in people houses.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Oh I just saw that this morning.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why is this viral?
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Like I just saw that this morning.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: There was like a Duke Dennis was like running around
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: this house and fucking up everyone's shipping then blowing it up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: It's like this is really it feels like a felony,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Like what do we do?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: But it's like it's gotta be a rental.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: But it's like jackass, Like it's some jackass for sure.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: That was like the only show when we came up
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: that black ass. Yeah, it's like everybody.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Everybody's on jackass in real life trying to just do crazy.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Shit for clicks for sure.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild times. Man.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Can you give us any sort of insight on any
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: of the features on the album?
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Oh? Man, you know, man, I got some good ones. Well,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you know, the family's on there to chain. I got
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: tied Yay, Russ Russ, Pink Sweats.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Green, It's Atlanta greats.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Hey, Russ Russ is one of them guys who when
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: he wants to step outside. He had them them them
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: munch projects where he was fucking barring out right.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I got some guys that was on the album every Kneag,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: So we need to get them back on it, you
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like my boy Jack Harlowe, me
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: and him got a we had a record, but you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I got to see if I can get him on
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: the you know label situations.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: So he was on the record and then he they
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: didn't clear it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say they It's just like you know most artists, man,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: when they do a song or do a verse, they
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: wanted to come out tomorrow, And I'm not that type
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: of artist, Like I want this thing to come out
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: when it's supposed to come out and how it's supposed
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: to come out and have the impact it needs to have.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And you know, people just like throw music out, they
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: don't have no intentions for it. And that's what man,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: the circle back around, that's what makes the greats great.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: It's intentional. Yes, Kendrick is intentional. He ain't throwing no
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: shit out hey and seeing.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: If it's stick.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Nope, he got a because like you said, it's like
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: when you're making music as an artist, you have to
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: be to I feel like to be in those conversations.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: You have to be self aware of like legacy of
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: like where does this fit in the culture, where like
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: how is this going to hit people? How is this gonna?
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Is this gonna last ten years from now, twenty years
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: from sure?
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: That's why I Pusher can just still put the clips,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: can still come out and have that gravitaze because they
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: intentional with and people know they're going there for that.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: And that rollouts.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: You's been crazy?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: What what you know?
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Because Russ put out Chomp and I think you were
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: you were on Chomp too.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah with who Banks? What was up because Russ, a.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Lot of people don't know, came up in Atlanta. What
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: was the genesis of Was he just reaching out? Like
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: because I know for those albums he wanted to just
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: get everybody, and just because he's he's the kind of
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: guy whos always got a chip on the shoulder, so
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: he's like, I want to show everybody I can rap
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: with everybody.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Now, he's a hip hop hit. He's a he's a
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: he's actually.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: He's actually a pioneer of a lot of the way
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: these kids put out music, but they don't know they
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: don't have the love for it that Russ has.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: No, he's it, He's it, you know what I mean.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: He's got the passion for real, and he has.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: The respect for it like a lot of times people
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: like come into hip hop and really don't have the respect.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Just because you can.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Do it don't mean I don't mean you should do
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: it exactly right.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: So I think that's what makes him great is because
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: he still has the respect for it as well.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: No, I agree, man, Now I think he's he's super underrated.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: So album is still not quite finished.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But it is coming. It is finished. I know you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: say you had a couple of tweaks.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: That's that's like.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: But not like mixing, mastering. Okay, okay, that's like. So
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the album is finished. You just got to get the
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: paperwork on some of the ship put together exactly.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So that's the last things we're doing.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: And like I said, when you're working on some classic
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: it takes that a little bit. So just getting these
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: last bit of clearance is these artists agreements getting out
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: and hopefully they come back, but if they don't, the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: shit will be out anyway and it'll be without them.
• 44:32
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  Speaker 4: Let's get back to the interview. Give me, give me
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  Speaker 4: your I am curious. I don't want to. I don't
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: want you to tell me who you think is the
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: greatest of all time? Your personal favorite Mount Rushmore.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Of mcs, my top what is that? Four?
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Four of them? Not again.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's the one list where you're like, yes,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: that's like jay Z, Yeah, greatest of all time, favor your.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Personal faith is the greatest of all time.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like I think that's the answer.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: But maybe like someone might not necessarily say Jay is
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: one of their favorite mcs, but they can acknowledge he's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the greatest.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: He's the greatest he's my favorite.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So both things can be true.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: So the whole is definitely Mount Rushmore. I would say
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Eminem is definitely Mount Rushmore, like I'm a fan of
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: like early on Eminem two. I guess because I was
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: a cue when he came out.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I got like an underground Mount Rushmore.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Give me my A team is j M T I
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And I would say, yay, those are my like four
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: but see, my undergrounds are like mystical, mystical big l.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I would say I was a d MX fan.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I love DMX coming up, and I would say.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Like my last would be like and my last is
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: so ill.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I would have to go, it's two of them though,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: to outcasts. I would just love outcasts growing up.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say, I mean a lot of your
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: undergrounds not underground.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they was like, I mean, that's just like
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: my eighteen d T because you know, mystical with underground either.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: But he was he was unpredictable cool cool when I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: was a kid, and I love no Limit like ghetto
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Dope and all that ship master P. But mister cool
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: was that he just had that voice on uh.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: He used to be going make him say that verse
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, who's this fucking guy? Like I used
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: to grow, I used to love Sean Paul from Young Bloods.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Talk about underrating Sean Paul never fired, he never did
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: not eat a feature.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Bahagen o'hagen was crazy like I used to like the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Atlanta artists who like Ship Passive Trub was incredible, Like
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I said.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Like that was just you know all all that's in
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: my gumbo.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite TI album?
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Oh man, damn damn all his album trap Music?
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Probably mean it's like trap music or what was one
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: after that? Underground legend or the urban urban legend Urban.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: My favorite top ten rap song is still Ain't Forgave Myself.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: That's top ten rap song all time.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: My favorite tip song is doing My Job produced by
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Kanye West.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Miles, Miles is still Ain't for Game Myself.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: And that mixtape erranted when he was doing the Dragon
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: for beat Ship.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, but you ever if you ever heard
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: t I on Field Moll song.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I know that probably because I had I had both
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: feel my albums. I had the O G one and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: then I had the one that had the DTP joint.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: I forget which'a I was.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And speaking of Clips.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I could rapped Clips first album front to back, amazing,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Like I could wrap that album like I rapped Reasonable
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Day out front to bat.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about that earlier.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I think Hell has no Curious the better album,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: but Lord Willing is my favorite. Like that album meant
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: way more to me. I mean, I feel like even
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: like I was just.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I was just listening to uh their last album from
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: nine till the Caskie Drops, and I'm like, damn, this
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: shit was crazy too, right.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: But see they was on those two albums.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like they were just showing off their skill
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: set like Lord Willing.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: The crazy thing is I had to think.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I was riding back with them joints in the truck
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: right to drop and my buddy.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I'm from Virginia.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: We rolled all the way home to that one CD,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: praying we don't get pulled over.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: That shit is but just meant something.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: To me with because I never heard of My buddy
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: was like, man, you got to hit the boy.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: The boy talking that shit.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: So when I first heard, I was like, oh, just
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: to be like twenty years later, Pushes like one of
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: my best friends is.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Like i'd be Pushes like you know how you said
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: your your list, I got pusha so my my, like
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I guess you would say my underground or it's like
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: pusha T it's Freddy probably killing Mike, and it's probably
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: I might ride with the Big l two. But it's like,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: then you got the four for me, It's like it's
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: three stacks, it's Hole, it's Knaves, and it's it's Kendrick.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Now I got Kendrick in that Kendrick. Kendrick got that
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: top five album to that fucking good.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Kid Mas City. It's in there, man, whoever made that
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: with him?
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: My goodness, goodness man, yo, whatever, you know, it's funny
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: because I was you know, I'm real tight with the
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: homie lifted who did Mercy, and so I was able
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: to have I was privy to hearing some stuff that
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: was supposed to be on Cool Winter auh and I
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: know that that was a thing that was supposed to
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: happen whatever, Like you know what what like like how
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: many records did y'all do for that?
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: We did? We did a few.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: We did about ten to twelve. But that's when, like,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: to be honest, that's when like motherfuckers started taking off
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: was taken off.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: That's when.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Pick guys out of the Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: All, let me tell you some on Cruise Summer, all
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: two trains versus. He did all three of his verses
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: in twenty minutes.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Max, Jesus, that's fucking crazy. He was out in the
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: hotel room.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, Bro in La. He never heard the song or nothing.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: They played the beat one time, maybe two times Max
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: on Eat Mercy, all of them. He just went in
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: there and just like eight bars, eight bars, that bitch
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: was done.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I said this nigga.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Is incredible crazy.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for what you say, I can't even I
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: can't even say no bullshit that fast.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I always say, Chain says the illest shit in the
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: slickest way. Yes, Bro, he'd be saying. Like his new
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: album with Larry June, the one the Alchemists produced, Oh
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: so good man, Yes bro to Chains, one of the ones.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Man, Alchemist. I love Alchemists too. Now. I don't know, man,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I don't fuck with me. I don't know what it is.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I got you and alcnld do a whole album.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Together, Man, what come on?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: That'd be crazy?
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: No, but I do feel like the like I remember
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: hearing a song for Cool Winner that was similar to Mercy, but.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It was called trash Bags.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Push was talking about essentially it was like
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: bring the money out in trash bags because you're gonna
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: make it rain so much that the money had to
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: be put in trash bags.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I remember that record. That was a real record. Yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: that was a real record.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, damn it, this shit came out right
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: after Mercy. I'm like, this is like the Mercy fucking
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: step Son.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying that that fucking era.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Everybody was picking at ya, like everybody was picking at
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: his team, like, oh.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Push, we need you here. The fucking big Shun.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kigts is that dance record going crazy.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Nikki and he you know, he was collaboring with Drake
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: all of them. Now he out of here cut. He
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: always been out.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Of here cut, He's always been cutting. Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Then he did that Tiana album.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: That Tiana he gave her all them damn beats man.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Them beats man hurt my soul for her to get
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: all over. I mean, she did a great job with him,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: But I was just thinking, like, God, damn.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Bro, did they ever have you, like ever discussed maybe
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: you doing one of those seven song albums.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was supposed to do one because.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: There was that twenty eighteen era we Get Daytona, we
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: Get the NAS album, we Get Kitsy Ghosts.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: We Get The Shot was my song first really yea
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, one of the two songs I really
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: love on that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Project, Cop Shot that Kill was my song. Bro, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: had a bunch of songs.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: That was my song. We was just talking about it,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: like I had to do. I did this song called
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: flash on on the.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Block Freestyle that Camper gave a song the Doja Can't
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: That was gonna be my first single. I had the
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: no Live Beat with two Chains and Drake.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: That was to be my single.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, which which dochi song was being I forget
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: it's the first song.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: I forget what album it was, but it was Doja
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Dojah Can't. But it's just like a lot of time,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I always got into them situations.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: It seems like Naza snatched two songs from you because
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: we talked about the no Idea one earlier.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Yo, how do you find out that that the cop
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: shot the kid? Because that song is fucking nuts.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: They asked me to give it to him. Does he
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: really liked it? I would have been like you can't
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: stay on it, but you know, I just be like,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a team player, and it be like.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: You get other beats from know, you get other beasts
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: from him, and I got a few on this album
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: from them, so that to me is better than those.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: But so you do have some a production on the album, Yeah,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I got about four or five of them.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: That's big.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm using all of my production because like
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: it's so nostalgic, you don't get you don't get to
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: hear it.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And I got the ones.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we don't get to hear the Kanye production.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I think that like we like love anymore. And not
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: to say that he's not making that stuff, because I
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: really enjoyed, uh the First Vultures a lot, and some
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: of the Vulture stuff that didn't end up coming out
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: was incredible. But I love the First Voltures, but it
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: was different. It was very much like it was a
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: different it was different, like I'm.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Talking about when he actually he's touching hard.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the NPC or the ASR ten. It's like
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: it's different like those days. I feel like I don't know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, ship he can tell.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: You man, take that snare out now he's telling somebody.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Now, that's crazy. So new album coming soon, hopefully real,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: hopefully for that the summer.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, story and mister e Gott you will be
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: getting at the next sixty days.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Visuals already kind of thought Outsu's already done. Oh so
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you're already You're ready, Yeah.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm just waiting on these last little.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: I love it, man, well, I can't wait to hear
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: the album. I appreciate you pulling up, man, new I'm
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: on the way and it's about time.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I can't believe it's been eight years.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, I mean me putting out my own
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: personal album.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know I was gonna put one out
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, but pandemic.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: Hit, so I was like, ah see, motherfuckers over overthought
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: that they pump faked themselves out. So many good, so
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: much good music came out in the pandemic.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have gone, I should have went on
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: and put it out. But you know, we're back at it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Damn, my guy. I appreciate you pulling up.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Hi, Yes, sir,