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Hour 3 - Got Beef · The Ben Maller Show

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  Speaker 1: Oh, what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying your early morning hours. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Coop can attest to this. Over the years, I've delivered
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  Speaker 2: some outrageously bad teases from time to time. Maybe not
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  Speaker 2: the teas itself, but those end of the hour teases
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  Speaker 2: can be It can be brutal because it's a hard out.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta be got to time it out to the second.
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  Speaker 2: Then every now and then I'll keep jabbering about whatever
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about, and then I'll have approximately like
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  Speaker 2: two point five seconds to get out maybe a full
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  Speaker 2: sentence that that's not gonna work. So the teas this
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  Speaker 2: last hour turned into coming up next a hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 2: So you might be thinking, wow, are they gonna have
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  Speaker 2: Barry Sanders on the show? Nope, nope, just a thought
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  Speaker 2: about a Hall of Famer, not an actual Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Famer on the show. So I apologize for my timing
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  Speaker 2: sucking right there, but I do find this to be
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  Speaker 2: very interesting. So Sterling Sharp he just went into the
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  Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame, great career with the Green
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  Speaker 2: Bay Packers, and he was on his Brothers. He was
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  Speaker 2: on Club Shasha with Shannon Sharp and so Sterling Sharp.
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  Speaker 2: He was talking about the one big beef he has
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  Speaker 2: with the Packers organization. Okay, so now he's talking about
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  Speaker 2: having career ending next surgery. All right, that's the timeframe
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  Speaker 2: that we're in. It stems back to that time. And
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  Speaker 2: so listen to what he says about the Packers' organization
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  Speaker 2: and how he thought they weren't there for him at
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  Speaker 2: that time when he was going to have career ending
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  Speaker 2: next surgery.
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  Speaker 1: Here you go, here's.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing that the Packers did that bothered me.
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  Speaker 3: Not one person called to say, how'd your surgery go?
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  Speaker 3: Because they're fixing my spine right that I could well,
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  Speaker 3: I could roll out of there and never walk again.
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  Speaker 3: I could die on the operating table. Not one person
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  Speaker 3: from the organization said, hey, you know, how'd your surgery go?
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  Speaker 3: Not the cold one person and from the organization was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: look man, god, we'll pull them for you. You know,
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  Speaker 3: let us know if you need anything. Not one person
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  Speaker 3: in the organization. I don't think you understand that. Player, trainer,
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  Speaker 3: front office, cod, damn no one. That's the only thing
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  Speaker 3: that bothered me. Not one player, Not one player. And
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  Speaker 3: it was so funny that I never thought about it
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  Speaker 3: until the Hall of Fame happened, and when the Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Fame happened. Now I start to hear from people
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  Speaker 3: in the organization, and I'm saying to myself, how do
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  Speaker 3: I feel about that? Honestly, Like, you know what, when
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  Speaker 3: I was at my proverbial lowess, never heard of me
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  Speaker 3: what you would perceive as my highest I really don't
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  Speaker 3: need to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, interesting stuff right where I get it from his standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: and listen, you had to condense that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a.
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  Speaker 2: Four minute thing, and so there are some bits and
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: pieces in there where Sterling Sharp is saying, hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. It's the end of the season. Players
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  Speaker 2: go their separate ways. An organization starts thinking about what's next.
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  Speaker 2: What are we going to do in the offseason, what's.
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  Speaker 1: Our game plan?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we might have babies that are being born,
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  Speaker 2: We're going on vacation here there, Like everybody just goes
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  Speaker 2: their separate ways. So he's like, I get it. I
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  Speaker 2: get it to a degree. But you can tell that
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  Speaker 2: that bothered him, and he would say at times he's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not hurt, and it's like I think you are.
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  Speaker 1: I think and you have a reason to be.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, like, man,
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  Speaker 2: that was that was rough. I didn't hear from one soul,
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  Speaker 2: not one person, And I just thought that was an
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  Speaker 2: interesting take. I had to share that with you guys,
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  Speaker 2: because I guess that's the broader version of this.
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  Speaker 4: Is that.
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  Speaker 2: It's I think it's hard for athletes to really buy
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  Speaker 2: in to the team aspect when so many times the
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  Speaker 2: business shows you that a lot of times you're just
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  Speaker 2: on your own, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
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  Speaker 2: the bigger takeaway from this. How many times have you
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  Speaker 2: heard players as like I didn't hear from my own
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  Speaker 2: own organization that I was traded, that I was released.
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  Speaker 2: I caught it on Twitter, like I saw a tweet
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  Speaker 2: about it. I saw it on Sports Center. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: even bother to tell me I was released, had no
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  Speaker 2: clue like stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: How can you if.
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  Speaker 2: That's on your resume, that's, you know, something that you've
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  Speaker 2: experienced along the way, and you're on your new team.
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  Speaker 1: Now, how do you fully buy into team? Team?
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  Speaker 2: Team, team, everything's team? How many times do you hear,
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  Speaker 2: especially about the NFL, it's a business. You hear that
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  Speaker 2: about pro sports all the time, NBA, MLB. It's a business.
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  Speaker 2: There's some stuff that's cutthroat that as cold as it
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  Speaker 2: can be, Like how do you buy in? How do
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  Speaker 2: you not develop this mentality of like, man, I got
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  Speaker 2: to look out for myself first and foremost, because that's
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  Speaker 2: what the business does to you. It teaches you lessons
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  Speaker 2: the hard way. And I feel like some organizations just
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  Speaker 2: get the simplest thing things wrong. How do you not
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  Speaker 2: reach out to Sterling Sharp? Not one person like, hey, bro,
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  Speaker 2: this is next surgery. Let us know if you need anything,
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  Speaker 2: just wanted to check in. How'd everything go?
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  Speaker 3: Not?
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  Speaker 1: How do you get that wrong?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure everybody's looking at everybody like man, one
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  Speaker 2: of us should have checked in, Like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: you should have checked in. I don't know how an
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  Speaker 2: organization messes up simple things. A lot of it's just
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  Speaker 2: common decency, it's just common courtesy. You know, if your
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  Speaker 2: friend was going in for next surgery, probably show that
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  Speaker 2: person that you cared in some way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it's a simple thing.
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  Speaker 5: Well see, I have some thoughts on this, Brian. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: And I'm glad you said that right there, because I
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  Speaker 5: had not heard this sound clip before and listening to it,
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  Speaker 5: and while I agree with the correlation that you're making
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  Speaker 5: about teams kind of treating it way too much like
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  Speaker 5: a business and you know, guys finding out that they
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  Speaker 5: got traded through social media. I get that because with
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  Speaker 5: things like that, like trades, there's only certain number of
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  Speaker 5: people in the organization that know about it anyway, and
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  Speaker 5: they're the ones. You know, it's a lot easier for
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  Speaker 5: you know, four, five, six to you know, ten guys
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  Speaker 5: to look at it like this is a business and
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  Speaker 5: you know, we got to keep this under wrap for
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  Speaker 5: whatever reason. But then when it comes to what Sterling
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  Speaker 5: Sharp was saying in that SoundBite, my initial reaction was
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  Speaker 5: one of two things. Either one, he's over exaggerating and
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  Speaker 5: there was somebody that reached out to him or no,
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  Speaker 5: or two he's an a hole, you know, Like how okay,
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  Speaker 5: because I would get maybe, you know, you might want
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  Speaker 5: somebody from like some higher up in the organization to
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  Speaker 5: reach out to you, the team president, GM, whatever, and
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  Speaker 5: they might not and that might be cold, and I
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  Speaker 5: can understand that happening. But he said not a single person,
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  Speaker 5: not a trainer, not a teammate, nothing, So he cultivated
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  Speaker 5: any relationships while on the team to where somebody would
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  Speaker 5: like reach out and know that he was going into
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  Speaker 5: surgery that day. I think that says more about him
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  Speaker 5: as a person or or he's over exaggerating and he's
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  Speaker 5: just not thinking of you know, the equipment manager who
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  Speaker 5: actually did shoot him a text, you know, like all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I hear what you're saying. That would be funny
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  Speaker 2: if you get all these X packers that were like.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell's he talking about?
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  Speaker 2: I called him four times before surgery after surgery.
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  Speaker 1: But the other part of I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Think of some of the like all time a holes
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL, Right, like to think of some players
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  Speaker 2: that had a REP that were disliked by a lot
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  Speaker 2: of their teammates, Like whatever your short list is, Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Rodgers comes to mind.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Not every teammate is fond of Aaron Rodgers. He's been
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  Speaker 2: a diva at times, you know, all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But not everybody is anti Rodgers. There are some dudes
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  Speaker 2: that will ride and die with Aaron Rodgers, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. And I think that's the case for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people in the NFL. Where certainly they
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  Speaker 2: ruffle feathers, they have their enemies, maybe even on their
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  Speaker 2: own team, they have their detractors and all that's earned,
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  Speaker 2: but typically not the entire organization is against you, like
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  Speaker 2: a unified decision. Like, man, this freaking guy defines a
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  Speaker 2: hole like.
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  Speaker 1: He's walking about. I just can't buy them. Sterling Sharp
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  Speaker 1: was that guy.
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  Speaker 2: There isn't one person that's on board to even a
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  Speaker 2: to the point where they're like reaching out.
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  Speaker 1: He's having neck surgery, his career is over.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine he was that hard to get
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  Speaker 2: along with and everyone was just nope, out on this guy, no,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. I just don't think it rises to that level. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that would be an extreme case of ahle ness. If
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  Speaker 2: there is such, you know, a term, we'll just invent
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  Speaker 2: one right there. But I get it, I get where
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  Speaker 2: why your head went there. I just don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: the case.
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  Speaker 5: Well, then then you just got to say that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's a couple hundred people on the packers organization that
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  Speaker 5: then they're all a holes, like not one reached out.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's one.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you know what we're talking, you know,
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  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety something so I guess there wasn't really it was, right, Well,
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  Speaker 5: that's true text messaging, Like, yeah, you take that.
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  Speaker 2: Into account, right, Yeah, the time period we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: is like, yeah, this is pre cell phones. We're not texting,
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  Speaker 2: we're not on Facebook, we're not dming.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It's just so so much easier to get in touch
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  Speaker 2: with people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can relate to this, right, Like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a little older than you, Coop, but
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  Speaker 2: you're old enough where when the grade school year was over,
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  Speaker 2: you just went your separate ways, ye, and you didn't
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  Speaker 2: communicate with anyone until you were back at school with
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  Speaker 2: them again.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't see them.
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  Speaker 2: They just weren't involved in your lives at all, because
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  Speaker 2: that's just.
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  Speaker 1: The time it was.
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  Speaker 5: You might not have even recognized them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like if you were unless you were friends
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  Speaker 2: and you were gonna hang out or see them that way,
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  Speaker 2: you just didn't see or communicate with anyone until you
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  Speaker 2: were physically together again back at school or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, that part of it, that does make
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  Speaker 1: some sense.
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  Speaker 2: He did have a house line, you know, you could
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  Speaker 2: you could reach out to people even at that time.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we are talking his career ended in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety four, that that's a much different day and age
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  Speaker 2: than now with cell phones and social media and all
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  Speaker 2: that good stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So, I mean, you know what, I didn't initially take
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  Speaker 5: that into account with my with my take the you know,
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  Speaker 5: having to actually call somebody on the phone and either
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  Speaker 5: talk to them or you know, leave leave a voicemail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, the old answering machines and all that. Sure, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you could have you could have done that. I
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  Speaker 2: think what happened was, you know, the season ended, you
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  Speaker 2: went your separate ways, and probably hearing this from Sterling Sharp,
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  Speaker 2: I would bet Coop. I bet there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people players, trainers, front office members, a part of
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  Speaker 2: that packers organization that heard that and felt like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: he's totally right.
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  Speaker 1: How did I not reach out?
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  Speaker 2: It's a simple phone call, like hey man, thinking about
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  Speaker 2: you thing good post surgery. They're probably like, I should
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: have done that at least what was I doing? Like,
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: sometimes you don't mean anything by it and you just
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: don't do something you should do. I think that very
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  Speaker 2: easily could have been the case.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think you're right, because I'm thinking about me
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  Speaker 5: and my like if you know, putting those shoes on.
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  Speaker 5: I I'm the type of person that will reach out.
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  Speaker 5: But it's so easy to shoot a text message and
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  Speaker 5: be like, hey, man, how's it going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're doing okay.
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  Speaker 5: But if I had to like actually call and talk
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  Speaker 5: to them on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I know, right, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, no, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: But man, when you didn't even know what text messaging was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's different too. I can see now that
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  Speaker 2: you're protext and talking, but when your only option was talking.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't as bad, Like it was a pretty good option
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  Speaker 1: at the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I hate man, interesting stuff there,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll see. I would love to know if any
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  Speaker 2: former packers from that time, if they make any statements,
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: you know, just keep your your ears open, eyes open.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody goes on a podcast or something and says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was right, man, I should have reached out to him,
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  Speaker 2: like my bad on that. There was a drop of
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  Speaker 2: the ball by me. But I can understand why Sterling
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  Speaker 2: Sharp would would feel like that. You know what's funny too,
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  Speaker 2: last little layer, I'll mention, as guys, there's something in
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  Speaker 2: you that doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Be completely vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: You could hear like I had to whittle it down
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  Speaker 2: from four minutes, but it's it's littered with not one
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  Speaker 2: person reached out. And then he'd be like, I'm not mad.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even disappointed really, and it's like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you are. You just don't want to admit that because
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  Speaker 2: there's something in our DNA where you just can't. You
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  Speaker 2: can't show vulnerability, you can't show weakness. But it hurt him,
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  Speaker 2: and it's understandably so that it hurt him. It's just
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  Speaker 2: hard to say that. It's it's hard for guys just
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  Speaker 2: be like, man, that really hurt bad, because he's just
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: kind of like manly.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't even really bother me.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I an't thought about it until the Pro Football
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Now, really, it hadn't thought about that
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  Speaker 2: for like what thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: Had crossed your mind one time?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but hey man, that's a you got
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  Speaker 2: to you gotta read through the guy lines from time
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  Speaker 2: to time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when a guy's like, oh no, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not even really bothered by that, chances are he's incredibly
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  Speaker 2: bothered by that. It is hard to admit all we
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  Speaker 2: quick take. I mentioned happy tears for Justin Cooper, our guys.
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  Speaker 7: So the.
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  Speaker 2: QB Tiars list will come out next week. So Mike Sando,
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  Speaker 2: he was at ESPN. He's at the Athletic right now.
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  Speaker 2: But he's done this QB Tiers list for this like
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  Speaker 2: the twelfth or thirteenth year he's done it. And so
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  Speaker 2: he asks a bunch of people in the NFL that
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  Speaker 2: cover the NFL all that sort of stuff for their
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  Speaker 2: opinions on the top quarterbacks. He puts this extensive list together,
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  Speaker 2: has a bunch of quotes in it, and anyway, there's
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  Speaker 2: a little, I guess like a little preview of the
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  Speaker 2: tiers list that's coming out next week. And he wrote
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  Speaker 2: in one of the Athletics newsletter, it's their football newsletter,
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  Speaker 2: that the way that the twenty twenty fourth draft class
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  Speaker 2: stacks up after their rookie season. So think of the
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  Speaker 2: six quarterbacks who were drafted.
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  Speaker 1: In the first round.
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  Speaker 2: And so the only thing that he really revealed is
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  Speaker 2: that Caleb Williams, the Bears quarterback, is fourth among the
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  Speaker 2: six quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: He's ranked fourth.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you think about this, it has to
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  Speaker 2: be where Jade and Daniel was obviously number one last season,
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  Speaker 2: tremendous job with the Commanders number two. At this point,
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  Speaker 2: it's got to be bow Knicks, damn straight right. Bo
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  Speaker 2: if Caleb Williams is four, it means Drake May with
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  Speaker 2: He's got to be ranked sixth right now among the
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  Speaker 2: and Michael Pennix Junior's got to be fifth because he
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: only started three games. Caleb Williams started the entire season.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: That's got to be the order. I don't see how
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the order could be any different than that. But how
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: about that bow Knicks ranked second, just behind Jayden Daniels.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: He's ahead of Drake May, ahead of Caleb Williams. Think
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: about that. If that's the list as it stands right now,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you got Bo Knicks taking twelfth overall, and he's ranked
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: ahead of the number one overall player taken quarterback Kayleb Williams,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and the number three overall player taken in May. That's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: pretty good, not too bad for bon Nicks, right there.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Coop I think there was a week, uh, pretty deep
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: into the season. I think for one week Bonnicks had
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: the better odds on Rookie of the Year.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, right then Jaden Daniels no kidding, Yeah, yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it was. He had it going for a little bit
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: there and again put up good numbers. It's just Jaden
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Daniels was electric, that dude.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You know some of the.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Wins that like the Hail Mary against the Bears, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: some of these plays, it's just like, okay, all right,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: we get it. He's rushing for almost nine hundred yards
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like he was. He was incredible, and he took over
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: for a team that won four games the year before,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: like your Broncos the year before, they were eight and nine, Coop,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: they won twice as many games as Washington the year before.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: You know, those rookies got there. So Jaden Daniels took
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: over an even tougher situation and got him to the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: NFC title game.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: That was amazing.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: That was an amazing one of the best. I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the best rookie season of all time from a quarterback
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: in what Jayden Daniels did last season. But yeah, Drake
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: may third, then Caleb Williams I think that's the spin
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: it forward. I think that's the interesting scenario here is
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: who do you think is gonna have a better season?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You think it's gonna be Drake May with the Patriots
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: or number one overall pick Caleb Williams.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna turn the corner?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I get the skepticism, but Caleb Williams was drafted number
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: one for a reason. He's a very talented quarterback, got
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of weapons to work with now with an
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: offensive minded head coach, there are reasons to be optimistic
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: about the guy. It just feels like it's a hard
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: sell right now. Don't you get that impression where it's
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: like to really get some like no, really, there are
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: reasons to buy I know, forget the net video throwing
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the ball into the.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Net and missing. I know that's freaking you out right now.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Seems like a hard sell to get someone to truly
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: buy into Caleb Williams having a really good season and
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: maybe moving up this list of the quarterback tiers at
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: least in his draft class. You know where he ranks
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: among those guys. Just funny, did you think we would
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: be here? I mean that's a good question. After year one,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: do you think we would be here with you're having
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to really sell someone on Caleb Williams maybe moving up
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a tick or two from the fourth best quarterback in
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: his draft class.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Here we are, here, we are. I do think it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a tough sell. I buy in.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a good year. I still
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: think that he can have a very good career. But
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I do think it's a tough sell right now. A
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: lot of people think otherwise. A lot of people are not,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: as you know, they're not banging the table thinking, Oh,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: this dude's going to be awesome. All right, let me
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: get out to the phones. The militia is lined up
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: over here. My guy Emmett is in Olympia, wants to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: check in.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Emmett, You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Brian, know what's going on? How are you doing?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Good? Blud? How are things pretty good?
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Pretty good?
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: About the Kleb Williams Drake may thing. In terms of
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: who's going to have a better season, I'm not saying
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: that the Bears are going to do anything crazy and
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: like win the division or anything. But I do see
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of improvement coming out of Kayleb Williams this year.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Not only did they bring in a guy like Ben
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Johnson who is an offensive mastermind, and a lot of
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: people make the argument of, oh, maybe a coordinator can't
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: be a good head coach when we've seen that plenty
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: of times. But ultimately, what this is going to do
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: for the Chicago Bears is it's going to bring them
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: more development for Caleb Williams, which out of all these
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: guys they could have gone for in the offseason, I
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: think Ben Johnson was one that you had to hire,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: So I think that's a good thing. And on top
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: of that, you have to think the offensive line they
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Brodn got like Jonah Jackson during the offseason. They're really
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: trying to fix what was a big issue, a big
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: glaring hole in the Bears offense last year where Kayleb
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Williams got absolutely mollywot Brian no. So I expect a
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: big uptick from him. I'm not really buying the Patriots
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: too much in terms of Drape may success. He might
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: do a little bit success, But I think Caleb Williams
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: this is easier to take off a lot more weapons,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: better O line, and a better I don't know about
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: better coaching situation, But I think for his needs, I
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: think he'd be served better than having Mike Brabil there.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I hear you interesting for sure. No, I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: appreciate you checking in. Good to hear from you, Emmitt
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: good stuff.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, man is, Look I get it in
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: terms of let's say a young quarterback having a defensive
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: minded head coach, and you're like, yeah, I don't know
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: if it's Look at Caleb Williams with the Bears, right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: he had Matt Eberflus and didn't have a great offensive court.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: He had a bad offensive coordinator until you know, he
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: got fired midway through the season. So not like offensive
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: gurus just surrounding Caleb Williams, and that can make it
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: more difficult. But I mean, listen, I just talked about
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels and how specially he was he had a.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Defensive minded head coach and Dan Quay you know.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is it could make it a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: bit tougher for a young quarterback to succeed with the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: defensive minded head coach. But it's not impossible. It's definitely
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: not impossible. And we'll see. We'll see with Vrabel how
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: he does with a young quarterback in Drake May, that's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on. I think if you're
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: looking at Caleb Williams versus Drake May, who's gonna have
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a better season, Like Caleb Williams has such better weapons.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: He's surrounded by a lot of talent, unless he's just
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: screwing things up and not getting it and not turning
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a corner. I just think that the supporting cast is
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: way better than it is in New England. When you've
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: got listen what he has to throw to Caleb Williams.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: He's got an upgraded offensive line that helps. First and foremost,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: he's got Roma Dunza, who's a number nine overall pick.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: He's got Colston Loveland, rookie tight end from Michigan, top
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: ten overall pick. Dj Moore is a good wide receiver.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: They got Luther Burden in the second round, the Missouri
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: wide receiver who put up crazy numbers a couple of
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: years ago. And as a talented guy like that's a
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: lot to work with. That's a cole Kabet is a
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: starting level tight end. They've got him too, and they
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you know, coincidentally enough, they got one of Jaden Daniels'
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: backup receivers and Zakias Olamide.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And I know you're like, oh wow.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: That's gonna do wonders Like he's a legit, like serviceable
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: wide receiver who's dependable.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You're gonna catch some basses.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: That's a much better supporting cast than what Drake May has.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Drake May look at their weapons, like objectively, what.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Does he have? He's got?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: He's got Stefan Diggs, who's been banged up a couple
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: of times. In terms of what happens to throw to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I like Hunter Henry as a tight end. But who
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: are your wide receivers. You've got Kayshawn Boody to Mario Douglas,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne. They drafted Kyle Williams out of Washington State.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: That is a lean wide receiving corps. Now, I do
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: like Trevon Henderson, rookie running back out of Ohio State.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to make it sound like Drake
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: May has nothing. But if you're looking at Bears versus
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Patriots and the supporting cast for the quarterback, it's advantaged.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Bears all day long.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: And so it's like, man, Caleb Williams should outperform Drake
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: May this year. Doesn't mean he will, but he should.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the militia. We've got Alejandro over
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: in Filmore. He's got some thoughts for us.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Man, you're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: Hey Dumbo, come on, Dumbo.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I thought you were calling me Dumbo for a second.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shoot, I you know, no, I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: got okay, Dumble, your big Disney like Dumbo, fan of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the Disney.
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: Listen to you for like three hours, Dumbo Dumbombo's all right?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Not a not a raving review from a coop over there, Alejandro,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Those pink elephants?
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: What would you say me? How wouldn't you say?
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: She said the pink elephant. She likes the pink elephants.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: Oh and and it's come on, I don't understand. You
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: need to understand the way things work. Uh huh okay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: And it is fantastic. Thanks for having any show, Brian.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: I literally I've driven seventeen hours.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Oh man, you're driving now?
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: Stop?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Where are you driving from? In two? Where are you
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: going Alejandro?
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: From Portland down to Fillmore.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Wow, you're like Larina with these long trips over there.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: My goodness.
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: Hey you're gonna do.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You're either like very low on sleep or you're bending
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a couple of elbows behind the wheel over there, Alejandro,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: what's going on with you, buddy?
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Hey, no, no, I have my dog. I have my dog.
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Okay, that's a black fan.
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: She's whipping. She's like, hey, wa the help.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. I'm glad she's providing the wake up
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: call over there. Very nice. That's needed, good man.
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: Yes, yes, I have a black demon jepper and cheese
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: straight up, you know. And people might say where things
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: be like yeah, I was said being with a black girl.
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: You know, that's just the way it works.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Come on, all right, hey, so fine man. Yeah, let's
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: let Alejandro get back to driving, all right, Yeah, no problem,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: good stuff, Alejandro.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: He'pe you get there safely, man, It's yeah, all right. Dumbo.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Let's add Dumbo to the Disney list right there. You guys,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you Lorena, you have more love than Coop for Dumbo.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I definitely love Dumbo.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: The big ears always hurt my heart.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And his mom gets locked up and she like swings
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: him in her trunk.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: What's the longest drive you've been on Lorena.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: My family used to go to Montana.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: I think that's probably the.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Longest from like what from socol Oregon?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: From Oregon? Okay, that's pretty good, Coop. You got any
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: crazy long distance drives over there?
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Are you talking? And now? So I have to kind of,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: you know, specify here are you talking me driving? Or
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: just a long drive? And you're talking about one like
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: start to finish?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I love this, but see you are the thinking man
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: of answering questions. This is important because these distinctions matter.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Let's start off with long drive for you, and then
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I want the follow up answer of a long drive
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you participated in.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But we're not solely responsible for.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, so I for me, I think the longest drive
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: is here to I don't know if here to San
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Francisco is longer or from San Francisco to Portland.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, I don't know either. It gotta be somewhat similar.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: I think Frisco to Portland is longer.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I would You're probably right, Yeah, it might be.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Actually even Frisco to Oregon is eight hours like to
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Roseberg where I live, and Portland is three hours farther
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: north than that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta still get through a healthy portion of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: California before you get to again.
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that's from San Francisco to Portland. That's the
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: longest one that I've done.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, and that was that was for a rage against
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the machine show. What was going on there?
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: What was I? I think I was just vis that's
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: when I that's when I stayed at your place in Portland.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Oh really?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I wasn't there. Yes, yes, I stayed at
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: my place. I wasn't even around. I don't know why.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I have no idea why.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: I love that you guys have all these memories together.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's hilarious, man, Yeah, very good, very nice. Yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of Oh my gosh, the long
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: long distance drive don't bother me at all.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me whatsoever.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you, Lorena, we talked about is you
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: gotta have sunflower seeds. That's what I should have told
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: told Alejandro. Hopefully still it works like a charm.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: At any time I feel even a little bit drowsy,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I just start chewing sunflower seats.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And there's something about.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: You know, cracking them open, you know, getting like working
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it out getting the seed in your mouth and then
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: spitting out the shell. There's something about it that just
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: kind of stimulates your brain, wakes you up.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a magical formula.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: It's the perfect thing to keep you don't even worry
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: about like the five hour energy stuff. Just choose some
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: sunflower seeds. Man, it works every single time. I swear
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: by it. All right, let me get out to Blind
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Scott real fast. We got our guy, Blind Scott. What's
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: going on, Bud? You're on Fox Sports Radio with Sophie.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: I'm just having a cold bird right now, taking a
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: couple of Bond hits. I was thinking about Drake May.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: You know Drake May. He's like a pure athlete, this guy,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Drake May. I like Caleb Williams better by personally. I
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: also think he's a better athlete. But I think they're
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: both really really good quarterbacks. They're both great for the NFL.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Like the Patriots are in a rebuilding year this year,
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: so you're not going to see like them. If anything
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: does happen, if they made the plass for anything, will
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: be amazing. But did you see Mike Frable today? He
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: jumped in. He was like his faces blead and how
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: did that happen? Like a helmet hit the side of
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: his chain, he can cut it or whatever. Probably wasn't
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: wasn't really what it what it seemed like, you know, Yeah,
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I just know there was a there's a you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: a little fisticuffs going on right there, and uh, Traveon
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Henderson he was he's picking up a blitz like he
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: had pass protection and somehow you know how it is
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and joint practices. There's a little bit of a dog pile,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a little skirmish and freaking Rabel just jumps in the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: middle of the thing and a little bit bloody coming
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: out of it. But man, all those Patriot players are like, yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: that's what we like to see from our head coach.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a fun training camp story. I thought,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: good stuff.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: They got some good sound bites on the team too.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: They got a guy that likes to dress up like
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: an animal like and not wear shoes. You know his name,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: I can't his name right now.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots play.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he got drafted. He wears no shoes and he
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: wears muppet costumes. So he yeah, and then remember when
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: you worked for the India and a journal and you
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: interviewed Fred Tutchery. You know, so Fred was talking about
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: he's going to retire. No, Brian knows, Fred Putcher.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Bland Scott's talking about mc collins.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Oh the okay, he's not a rookie. If it's mac collins. Yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the receiver. He'll walk around with me.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: He doesn't wear sneakers. He walks around with no shoes,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: with no shoes on, and yeah, wear I'm really into this, Actually,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: I'm really into this guy. Is he going to be
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: Is he going to be like a big big Is
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: he going to be a big player on the Patriots?
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Like mccollins is an okay, like role player, but he's
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: not going to be like like a major asset or
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: something like that. He's and I don't Yeah, he's like
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: an okay, like three receiver, that type of thing.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: Question. So in football, it's hard for one player to
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: stand out. What does it take for like somebody to
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: really capture the media on a team like the Patriots,
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: there's a bunch of nobody's on there right now, Like
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: they need a player that can get on like a
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: sound bite type of guy that to pump the fan
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: base up. But there's everybody is just there's a lot
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: of nobody's on the team, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all h to do is go to a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: party with like a cocaine like substance and then poof,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you know, you got notoriety like Stefine Digs right, like
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: it's the fine Diggs. I'm kidding about that. But he's
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  Speaker 2: got some personality there, you know. But I hear you like,
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  Speaker 2: largely it's do your job, lunch pail, head down. There's
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  Speaker 2: not a whole lot of you know, like bells and
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: whistles and personality over there. But that's been the way
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  Speaker 2: it is, has been for a long time. Thank God
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  Speaker 2: for Gronk, right, Like Gronk was the saving the force
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: over there for so many years. It was funny. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: appreciate your call, blind Scott. Good to hear from you, man.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It was funny. Like I was working in Alboy, New York,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: long time ago doing sports radio and I can't remember
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I try to find I can't remember. There was like
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: a third round wide receiver that the page it's had
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: from North Carolina. I can't remember the guy's name off
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the top of my head. I could look for it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: But he didn't have great success or anything like that.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But anyway, my producer he had just started working there
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and this is the first interview that he booked, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: he's elated. I think he wore a suit and tie
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to the radio studio while we're pre recording this interview.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: You know, we weren't able to do it live, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I had this I'm trying everything. I'm like, hey man,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: what about this story.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to make it good.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: And he's just like Minnie Belichick, no bells and whistles, straightforward,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like nothing interesting. I'm like, dude, we can't even air
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: this interview.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Like the producer was crushed. He worked so hard to
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: get this interview. We couldn't even air it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: There was just nothing in there that was interesting at all.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But that's been the case for a lot of players.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with it, but it is not the most
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: interesting team of personalities. But you have some every now
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and then, Gronk Edelman, you know, you get some good
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: personalities sometimes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to coming up.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Gosh, oh, there's an interesting opinion from a basketball coach
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: about a day being dead. No longer are we gonna
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: see something that we saw plenty of years ago. I'll
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: get to that coming up. I'm Brian no In for
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Big Ben Maller. This is Fox Sports Radio.
• 36:28
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  Speaker 7: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian though in for
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Big Ben malor.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: So. I saw this.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I saw a video with Rick Patino, who's the head
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: basketball coach at Saint John's right back in college, had
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of success last season. They they they fizzled
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: out in uh in March madness. They're turning the ball
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: over like crazy, couldn't make layups. You. It was ugly
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: but really good season for Rick Patino. But what caught
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: my attention was he was talking about the point guard
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: in basketball basically being no more.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought it was an interesting.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Take, and he he didn't just think about the college game.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: He's talking about the pro game in particular. Now, the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: audio isn't great, you know how it is at basketball practice.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Basketball is bouncing in the background and stuff like that,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but at one point I think you'll be able to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: hear what he's saying well enough. And at one point
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: he's asked by a reporter. He's like, well, what would
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you say about Jalen Brunson, the Knicks point guard? Right
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: because Patino was talking about man, we don't have any
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: point guards anymore. These guys are looking to score. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the reporter's like, well, what would you say about Jalen Brunson.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: So that's all you need to know is sit back
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and let the wisdom.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Of Patino just wash over you. Here you go.
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  Speaker 11: There are no point ouds anymore. Now if you find it,
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: you'll probably describe him as a guy who can't shoot me.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: He's a combo scoring gud.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think he's looking for the assists. I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: he's looking at.
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: A squad, and thank god he is.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I said this in a team.
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: Who's the pointcut in the Knicks, just the Lakers, Celtics,
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: the champion, World champions. The pointcout is totally done in basketball.
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: The days of John Stockton are long gone. There are
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: no more pointcuts. Chris Paul is probably the last one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: So you got to play with everybody handling the basketball
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: five out and just create good movement.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting, Whereas like, the point guard
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is completely dead in basketball, and I get why he's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: saying that. If you compare it to years ago and
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: what the point guard used to be and what it
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: is right now, I could understand how you would say
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: it's dead. I would prefer to say it's evolved a lot.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: But you still get some of these guys. Trey Young
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: is a good example of this with the Hawks, where
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: he had nearly twelve assists per game. You know, he's
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: dominating the ball. He's got the ball in his hands
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: all the time. It's not like your center is handling
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the rock. You have to have five dudes that can
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: handle the ball. He handles the ball all the time.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: He's a high assist guy. And then he's also looking
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: to score. He's like Rick Patino said, he's a combo guy.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: He's looking to score and he's also looking to dish.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if you if your definition of a true
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: point guard quote unquote is a guy that's looking to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: pass first and score second, Like, yeah, a lot of
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: those dudes don't exist anymore. There aren't a whole lot
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: of those dudes around. They mentioned Shake, Gilgess, Alexander. He's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: not looking to distribute, He's looking to put the basketball
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in the basket. That's what he's looking to do. It's
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: not say never distributes, but he's looking to score first
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and foremost. And so I can understand why you would
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: say it's dead. I just don't think it goes to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: that degree. I think we still have guards that score
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a lot. They're focused on scoring, but that's not their
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: sole mentality. They're still looking to dish the rock. But yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I'll meet them halfway and say, now, more than ever,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: point guards are looking to score first, dish second. That's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: typically what you run into. But interesting take from him
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: coming up next. It's a much needed change for a
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: very slow starting team.