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Toxic TikTokers & Abusing Mutah Marriage · After Maghrib 🌙

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Eid Mubarak to all we hope you have a blessed holy month of
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Ramadan and in sha Allah blessed Eid as well.
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Today guys, we've got really really really sensitive topic to
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get into. We're going to talk about
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influences on And Instagram are, they are Force for good or maybe
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not are their influences, which actually we can learn from or
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perhaps do even some influences endorse and encourage things
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like music, like swearing and even some really controversial
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topics, like temporary marriage, which is of the discussions.
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We will get into today so don't go anywhere.
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So to get into this conversation.
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As always say that is some I think
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the bark feels like I'm a bond. Was light years ago.
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Yes. How would you say kind of like,
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The month was beneficial for you and you've learned and I think I
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found the month, more beneficial being here.
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Believe or not, Annie, as he doing the podcast.
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Yeah, because you were in the podcast.
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I was learning so much. Oh yeah.
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Yeah, my chance. And we had blessed with so much
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people love. And yeah.
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So we learned a lot in the shop that we can take this on board.
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Yeah. And two, because we like, if
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you've not, if you've not like for obviously, there's so many
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podcasts and some of them are Ramadan specific, but a lot of
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them, aren't we? Ali and you can pick up anything
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from any of those podcasts. So you don't have to be waiting
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for Shyamalan or in the month of Ramadan turns into them.
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So if you're if you haven't had them, don't be shy.
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Get into the subscriber. Yeah yeah okay Sage big
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discussion. Where should we start?
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We can do it. And, you know, I think before we
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even kick it off, I just want to put a disclaimer about my sore
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throat. I found like a Franck at the
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moment. No cellphone.
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Shalala people, don't, you know, put the volume down.
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Best a real display monopole is that please just have an open
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mind or we have to have this discussion.
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Know you spoke about we want to talk about Tick-Tock is
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influences and you want to tell them what we want to reach.
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Yeah. I mean the the discussion we'll
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start there and then inshallah we're going to face towards
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talking. Influences.
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You don't maybe give off the better Vibes and maybe don't do
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the right things on social media.
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So encouraging music, swearing and also very open with the
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practice and the discussion of temporary marriage.
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All also knows what our yes and that's something which we're
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going to get into now. However, you feel about it,
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we'll get there. So stay tuned.
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And also of course we have our dear producer.
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So most of us are saying is that I think I'm saying you guys have
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a nice to see you just got back from a trip in his I saw still
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getting there. The arm of a bullet humbly.
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We pray for us, definitely definitely, how many or what
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type of influences or lactic stalkers, and Instagram kind of
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influences? Do you follow what?
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I follow? A number of I would never call
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it influences, but I will call them Charla people of own.
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Sometimes those who give us the correct.
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Mitch and I follow a number of people many scholars right now.
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I think it's, I think it's fair, I can share who two of my
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favorite ones though. That's all right.
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One of them being is, of course, I think favorite of many as I
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said you wanted as we need mmm. You know, I've come across so
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much of his content over the last two years that I just don't
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want it to end. Yeah.
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Cause it's like a constant daily.
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Reminder of how we should be as Muslims, how we should treat
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everyone. You know, how we can make the
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most as a Muslim, especially here in the West.
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So, he touches on topics that relate to all of us.
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And another one I would mention is say the wedding with Darcy.
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And that's because his short clips that he shares or not,
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just those that matter to us. Now they matter to our either,
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they matter to our Islamic history and they touch about on
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everything also say not just the stomach history, but there's
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obviously so many different lessons we can learn and things
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which not even Islamic. So, for example, how you deal
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with people in business? Yeah.
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How you look after your body and how you look after your Chips
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with people around you. These kind of things are not
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specific to religion. So I know, for example, say
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Joanna's you mentioned, he's got celebrities following, you know,
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of all different faiths and backgrounds and people, you
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wouldn't expect to who can benefit.
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And that's that's actually one more person after mention.
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Okay. Chef Palmer, the hell yeah,
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martial law. He's got some amazing content
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that's on so much and to be honest, a, there's there's
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influences who are not in this Labyrinth field either, but
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might be from our community. So influences, I'm not going to
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name names because you are so many may be so much love.
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I can Name some but we have people who are in business.
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We've got people who are in health people who are like
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recitals, like yourself and others as well.
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But people who can advance you and support you either, give us
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your favorite one. Who's my favorite.
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Yeah, I think it varies like I follow.
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I follow. Probably like 50 pages.
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Marshall. How do you keep up a lot of the
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wall? There's a fan page at the moment
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at this point in time. I would say my friends behave
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Sharif act, he said he's fantastic, I'll do I know who's
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on Instagram, check out my ACT he does said, was I do, he's
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like a he's so his day job is in health and fitness and that
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thankfulness and yeah, he's highly motivational.
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A lot of it is Fitness related, but mindset wise, he's
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incredible. There's so many others are the
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only get to do much. But what about using that he
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just just Islamic influence, is not only suggest any other
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influence. He is taking me to Hell Fire.
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No honestly you need some nutrition advice or something at
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last. This is just a cool so canine
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nutrition, who's very good. She's also coming on as a big TV
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before and she's from our community as well.
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Fantastic. There's so many diets Community.
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Favorite is Muhammad are motivate.
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Yeah, Marty is good. Friend of ours was.
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Yeah he took my dream job working at Heathrow check these
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guys out if you haven't already guys.
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But what makes Someone a good influence on Tick-Tock or an
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Instagram. For example, I think before we
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even say what makes someone a good influence to us as Muslims,
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especially a living in the west, I think its first week or
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discuss the chaos that's online, right?
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Because, you know, we can all say, you know, this person is
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good, that person we can promote this person because they this
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person is better than that person can learn from this this
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guy but then the issue is there is no one out there
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fact-checking these people. There's no one out there you
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know seeing if what The saying is correct.
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So if you open up the app Tick Tock rhythm, I don't know how
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your algorithm works this compared to.
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When I first started I was scared to open the app I've
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mentioned this before. Yeah.
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But now handle are like Tick-Tock Stones almost done.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Majority behalf of the Islamic concept that comes across my
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face is nonsense. Number one is misleading, number
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two is people, they will mention like a Hadith or they and you
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want to go look for that Source. Row doesn't exist or they want.
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I mention a verse they say, only in English, sometimes I'm part
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of the problem as well. They're saying only in English
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rather than one thing is when you want to go and find that to
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translation, bro is half of the translation does not make sense
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to what they're saying and invest in terms of what I've
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been like, you know, shut down my eyes down, my throat on the
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app, but that but are otherwise there's like, Twitter, where
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martial law, we have everyone as a share on Twitter these days.
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Honestly, then you have, you know what The platform's where
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I'm not going to promote because it's just chaos.
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Just so, you know, when we have someone, who says I'm a Muslim
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influencer, and these are people who because we have that
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connection. The moment we see, for example,
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they've got a bit, the moment we see, for example, they've
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started salam-o-alaikum, we know that positive energetic, that I
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wanna come automatically, we've solved, you know, they've got
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our attention. So a lot of people will listen
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to this, we will add a plus to you too.
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Maybe on the podcast. I think you are Muslim
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influences, though. The problem is sometimes you've
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got influences online who are representing us badly.
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Yeah. But they don't categorize
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themselves, but the viewers do they want to know?
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Are you Muslim? Are you Rocky?
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Are you want to come to you? Because they want to put them in
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a category and then they end up representing us although they
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don't they don't want to in the first place.
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This is want to come to, because this is why I'm saying, you
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know, everyone these days, it's a Muslim influence because even
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those who don't choose to be a L'm influence our end up being
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almost about in regards to off the market.
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For example, firstly, I want to make clear that as the thing.
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We obviously, we're different because we obviously work with
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the channel to grow categorically one Muslim.
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Yeah, as a way, and we are actually producing most
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important, right? So we're out the outwardly,
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producing content in short-form and long-form for people to
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benefit from the differences. Were not sure we're not Scholars
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or I especially myself. I'm not going to claim to be.
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Yeah, any in the sense that we we try and engage with people,
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And direct them towards the right source of knowledge, you
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know, I'm sorry, said, I'm just going to add a line very
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quickly, and a lot of the time, we fact, check behind the
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scenes, I have to make this abundantly clear and I'm sure
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this will apply later in the conversation because we actually
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have a message from a deer scholar as well to show us and
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we review all of our stuff and we try to be as careful as
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possible. Obviously, we talk a lot on this
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podcast, me especially but, you know, we try our best Journey.
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So, you know, and I have to say, because we had so many people
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send in Messages. We asked who's your favorite
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Implement. So we probably got like 100 plus
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responses. A lot of them, I have no idea
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who they are. I've never heard, but there's
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even, for example, artists either liability.
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For example, in the u.s. is fantastic.
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So the okonjima auntie in the UK, she's great.
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She did a partnership with John Lewis of the weekend last week,
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even for example, restaurants Burger firm, then you in London,
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they are amazing. Their burgers are like this.
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You know what I'm of on Shadow move on, we discovered by
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government Instagram, and they recently launched For four
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nights in a row. We had Boba Fett but I saw all
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your stories. Yeah, I've never in my life done
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that. I've never.
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I looked at the menu and I remember I was at work.
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Yeah I'll showing the boys in my office.
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I was like guys look at this menu and they're all different
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backgrounds. Different ages.
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I'm like, which one should we get something?
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So we all had like disagreements different items on the menu,
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Danny Dorito. There's top G this.
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So like so many others and different.
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Everyone had a different opinion but I'm delighted whenever we
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add it because to Something new just about bug enjoyed it.
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I think the Muslim. Yeah.
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Share the post of them. Yeah, we did.
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Yes. And I'll somehow you know, I'm
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Associated laughter - yeah I guess.
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Oh my God has now became what was this place?
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Who runs this place? We're coming up on the details.
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And next thing, you know, everyone's like either the next
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day or following few hours, the sending images of the actual
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them actually promoted. Did you run without my pendulum?
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Anyway that is my name stands for often.
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Yes, sir, just to clarify, I speak about the motherfucking go
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back. Yeah, it was like someone asked
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me, you know, what if you are having these conversations and
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it's a Muslim platform and you keep some, someone told me, you
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keep having a conversation, you keep saying you not say that,
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you know, share. You can put out these
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disclaimers and I was like, there's a difference when I
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share goes out and tells you to do something.
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What tells you to refrain from something, he has studied the
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subject in depth. Yeah, is, you know, he's a
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student of house. There is Liberty.
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He knows what he's talking about.
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The only thing we can do here on this platform is to pretty much
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Ash on the show you right from wrong with that.
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Yeah, we can do our best least what we understand, it comes to
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them but inshallah, right? And wrong and we don't want to
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do anything beyond obviously our capacity is.
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And the thing is, you know, when we talk about these influences
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and you mentioned Chaos Online, there's a lot of it.
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Okay? So for example, there are
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influences out there and I don't know if we're going to get into
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specifics and individuals. But people who are, who are just
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so influential. Now within our community that
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they will go out and they'll be flocked by youth whether or
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whether or not their she are, you know they'll have a
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following outside of this your community and they'll be doing
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things for example which are not befitting in, my humble opinion
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of the followers of Allah Muhammad.
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Hmm. Allahumma Salam.
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And so for example these characters need to be monitored,
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they need to be or either. They need to open your associate
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with the Apple business now and then emulate and Body?
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What they are expected to be and to do or they don't they
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disassociate and they do what they need to do, but don't don't
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mix the two. And if, for example, if it's
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wrong, if I as an individual Ahmed, I quote Hadith eylem, how
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model M Asam. And then, at the same time, I'm
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posting Grime and drum music on my story, you know, singing
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along with it. For example, it doesn't make
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sense. Or if I'm swearing and then at
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the same time, I'm like, yeah, you're giving a Hadith about
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using the good good speech and time did, I mean, it's counter
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counter logical. It doesn't make sense, you know?
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I mean Uh yeah. You know, since we're talking
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about Tick-Tock, yeah, and the Sea took talk as full of
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nonsense. If you don't have Tick-Tock, I
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don't advise you to open up an account unless you want to fall
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off the market. Let me just say, let me just
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make that clear. That's the moment you open
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Tick-Tock and you come across these this content of are now
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under strict Islamic content, only because if we're talking
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about Muslim influences, technically they fall under the
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influence of the category of Islamic content.
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And as soon as you open those videos and as soon as you open
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up, Those comments that comment section 99% of the time is just
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people free mixing. Yeah.
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That if you actually look at it someone may come on.
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Do good work. Good work.
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We don't doubt or question anyone's attention when it comes
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to Islamic content that sometimes the things that they
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release lead to free mixing on the content that they're
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producing. And so I don't mention names.
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Yeah, specific people or account because I don't want people to
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search these accounts, the cases never come across them and half
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the time back. You're looking at the comments,
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do you like hey I know that guy. Hmm or for example, that that
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name is so familiar if your moment that.
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So what you commented now on this post Allahu Akbar, like it
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is so shocking. How people are comfortable being
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who they say? They know our online.
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So you have these two different no faces when it comes to, for
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example, how we are as Muslims on a platform.
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Yeah, well we think no one is no one's watching us.
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The picture a lot watching. Ultimately, was watching
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everything. We comment, everything we like
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everything. We scroll everything rewind, you
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know, everything that we do and the main thing for me is you
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have to solve not take Tick-Tock and similar apps as gospel.
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Yeah, if you are trying to find inspiration, look, there's so
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much inspiration. Content on Tick-Tock.
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I'll be honest. There is so much.
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Beautiful Quran recitations. That inspire me.
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Oh, there are so much for example, people who give, you
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know, content about Allah, sallallahu alehiwassallaam, and
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his son, and his life, and how he lived, the way he lived.
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These things, do they make my heart stronger Faith.
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They bring across town at the same time.
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There's also, for example, so many converts on the platform
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where they share the converse story, or they share their
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struggle, or they share their journey into finding Aslam Bro,
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these things are amazing and I love.
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Ya love seeing that concept, but then we have this content but I
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think here is where it gets dangerous.
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Is that there is this thing of Muslim Trends.
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I don't know if you've come across India and there are also
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in particular she attracts where people, I think the term is
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called first trap. Okay.
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So they will first trap a lot more year.
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The first truck a scholar, they will first trap anything for
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attention. All they do is I mean, forgive
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me. I don't know about that strap
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adjustable, maybe the producer will know better than me, but
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that's when someone is craving some attention, right?
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And they will use Islamic means as a means to get to say that, I
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think that there's any Tick Tock is quite vast with these things.
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So there's a lot of these with troll accounts that are there to
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troll the Shia Community by the same time.
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There's Is I'm not discussing fake accounts.
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Yeah you can about life people. So this was going into okay.
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It gets to a point where people that these there's a lot of
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these trendy lot Mia's which pick up a lot of views, okay.
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But the problem is they only pick up views.
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When you your, your first truck thirst-trapping--, be honest, we
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call it what it is but I think a lot of is is how you portray it
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because some people or some people do it really badly,
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whether there may be Like swinging a girdle for car, or
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have they have makeup on whatever it looks really bad but
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at the same time than those people who's just romanticizing
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religion. They're poor, they're posting
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photos and Benton Harbor. Maine, have you seen this thing
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starts and stops it. But like, I've seen these things
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on Tick, Tock where you have these guys that wearing like the
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skinniest tiniest vest and you have the mass of this guy you
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can imagine bodybuilder, Yoni and they're doing weights.
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They're showing off, they show them.
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Get out of the shower and getting ready in like in the gym
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and everything and then ever suffer.
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They have that, they have a track like that in the
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background. And then they have a caption be
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like, I'm I'm preparing to become a soldier of Imam.
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Ahmad, I don't think there's, it's not necessarily bad, but
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it's just sometimes a lot of people go over the top.
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Yeah, they're great again. So if you're showing your
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Fitness videos with a lot more than okay, it's nice.
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Or if you're showing your trip to karbala then it's nice.
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Of course of course but you will get over the top with it, they
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get excited and that's what goes wrong.
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I'll see you got stick to it like the do's and the don'ts
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yes, Hunter job for a guy or for golf.
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Guy. Why should I do feel buddy?
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I'll go wash off your body on Tick-Tock.
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It's not, it's not, it's not important, but even if you are
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showing off, it goes to a problem where you're showing
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your Shia and and you're a female or your mail.
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So you're attracting use from the opposite attention which is
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wrong because people at the end of the day we'll will crave that
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kind of thing. You know?
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I mean it's like they want people of a similar ilk to want
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them like oh I want people to see a marriage material or that
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I'm a good-looking guy. By my bids, this and that.
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And you know what I mean? Like you've got to have some
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like new Once the core of this faced, you know, I mean or
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dislike place because that platform like a saying is
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dangerous, man is really day. You could be completely innocent
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on Tick-Tock and still come across nonsense, you know, I
21:00
know someone who told me like an adult who told me that they use
21:03
Tick-Tock to watch life hacks, cleaning hacks talking hacks,
21:08
for those who don't know, like, that shortcuts and loopholes and
21:10
clean and cook and do housework better.
21:12
This adult homie go I was using it but then I came across.
21:15
I was scrolling and all this Buck W.
21:17
See any like rubbish? We'll come on to my feet, I
21:20
don't want to see it. So for me personally I remember
21:24
I was people would advise me for years, don't get too close.
21:26
I only open it tick, tock account after my going to feel
21:29
just so I could follow the page and I could, you know, just
21:31
we'll keep an eye on it. But for me, I don't open to talk
21:34
ever. I probably open it once a month
21:36
to check. Check her our account and
21:38
hamdulillah, even like Instagram, explore like, you
21:42
know, it's not Really, you know I've never used Instagram
21:45
Instagram explore since I've yeah, 2019 or so.
21:48
But anyway said sorry I want to kind of like a diver because
21:51
you're making a good point about these kind of toxic trace your.
21:54
Like if I could come back to this this worth I use thirst
21:58
trap. I don't upset anyone.
22:00
I know there's probably half of you probably part doing the same
22:03
thing and I'm not talking about you.
22:06
I'm talking about those individuals, you know, you have
22:09
certain people if you see their video after video on the way
22:13
they Create their content on, that account is thirst trap.
22:16
Mmm. Because they will use, for
22:18
example, the sword of those poor car.
22:20
Yeah. Imam Ali with some provocative
22:23
actions and you know provocative looks and the ways they move
22:28
with a very loud to me that we can all connect with know how
22:31
for those who don't know about me is and they're bringing
22:35
comments. For example, martial law.
22:38
Just let you are beautiful Shia Muslim.
22:42
Well, you read these comments and those sisters are applying
22:44
back to the brothers. Thank you so much.
22:46
It means a lot. Yeah, I really like these are,
22:49
these are the conversations are happening on Tick-Tock, and this
22:51
is what I mean by thirst-trapping--.
22:52
I'm not talking about sharing. You know, there's the otter, I
22:56
love the bro, I'm in love, I've shared a few myself of doing
23:00
something similar, but there's a complete difference between, for
23:03
example, you being modest online and you being break, In every
23:08
Islamic law possible when it comes to this kind of diversion
23:12
to this conversation on temporary marriage.
23:14
All right, so the reason why we're discussing this is because
23:18
we've been seeing different accounts.
23:21
Yeah. And different people.
23:23
It's gas or engage or partaking modes are on on Tick-Tock.
23:30
All right, for example. Yeah.
23:32
So people who like, do a live ceremony or whatever you want to
23:36
call it. I don't know the word is like
23:39
you know, they'll do it on technical, they'll talk about it
23:41
and it becomes normalized to the point where everyone is talking
23:45
about it and it becomes in my opinion and issue.
23:49
All right, now there's different Avenues to this before we get
23:51
into this guy's my humble opinion, is just to suggest that
23:54
firstly, we are not Scholars. We are not sure, we are not in
23:58
Mom's of any kind, so everything you discuss with us on this
24:03
conversation. Please refer back to your mojo.
24:06
What does he say on this? What does your local Imam in
24:10
your mosques, a and refer to people of knowledge and people
24:14
have studied this because we're not here to give a Karmann do's
24:16
and don'ts. That's not our position.
24:18
What we are here to do, in my opinion, is to inform you of
24:23
matters that we've seen which are causing disruption amongst
24:26
our youth. So it's really important that we
24:29
discussed that, okay? The second thing I want to do,
24:31
if you don't mind saying in terms of disclaimer, it's just
24:33
understand that there's a lot of people watching and I want every
24:37
Inshallah to respect all viewers, we have followers of,
24:41
on our account of different backgrounds, different,
24:43
cultures, different gender. You know, male and female both
24:46
are watching young and old, both are watching different parts of
24:49
the world and everyone has been raised in a different
24:52
environment. Some people be very in favor of
24:55
what are some will not. And, you know, you could argue
24:59
either side of it. And it's Lahm does not just, you
25:03
know, they we can get into, you know, the what you call it the
25:07
details. But we cannot categorically say
25:11
it's for the better or for the worse.
25:13
No. But that's my, but this I wanted
25:15
to say that before we get into it.
25:17
No, no. It's very, it's very valid that
25:19
you say that comment. And I think, if I can just add
25:22
something onto this sensitive subject is that are motile
25:26
marriage temporary marriage, see her marriage with how other
25:29
people refer to, it is that it's not the norm of society.
25:33
It's not the norm of this religion and it's definitely not
25:35
the norm of the pop of a little bit clients.
25:38
We follow the Sunnah of rasulallah salallahu, alaihe
25:41
wasalam and he says, if you want to follow my son now and get
25:45
married. And the married, he's referring
25:46
to is the permanent marriage, so.
25:48
So I just think that's something that we need to shampoo out
25:51
there. For, we started this discussion
25:53
and you mentioned that there are Tick-Tock is out there.
25:56
What openly doing what our ceremonies?
25:59
I don't know if we can call it that.
26:00
Yeah, but we do have people in our community, okay?
26:05
When I say this was in the, she a community on the take Top
26:08
platform where they're coming out.
26:09
Alright, for the last 23 years, God knows for how long I've seen
26:13
maybe every other day. Sometimes it's the same
26:16
individual themselves wherever they go there is and what our
26:19
session happening where he can go to anyone in the street.
26:22
As do most iron, they do not undergo and brought his own
26:24
life. Hmm.
26:25
And then the problem is those who don't understand what
26:28
temporary marriages even though what's happening in that Tick.
26:31
Tock is so questionable, I'll be honest.
26:33
Okay, you've opened the can of worms where people think all we
26:38
have in our amazing faith and our amazing men head is turned
26:42
femur, right? Like we have nothing else.
26:45
Well, I'm right. Nothing else to celebrate with
26:47
you proud of her. You know, we can say, we can
26:49
associate ourselves to the teaching of Islam apart from
26:52
this. Hmm.
26:53
And the worst thing about these influences when they are doing
26:57
these actions are met, okay? There is something that's
27:01
happening out there is that they're not talking about just
27:04
you When they want to tell you what you're doing is wrong.
27:06
Now they've got people where they would go and all share
27:10
accounts and call someone who's got nothing to do what with what
27:14
you are doing, and they're calling him.
27:16
What a son of nudges, son of Xena, the son of motor, can you
27:20
see where? That can of worms, you might not
27:22
know Jesus. Okay, the mother of your mommy?
27:26
Well, I don't know. So someone who's doing these
27:29
things? Brawl was affecting the sheer
27:31
community on a huge scale. Yeah.
27:34
The scale, another, a few things to mention the school.
27:37
So there's so many things tough talk about, what?
27:40
Our yes, as a theory. And as a practice is in my
27:45
opinion is two different things. Okay, theoretically and
27:48
historically islamically, there's a basis for it Looney
27:52
and she accept that was introduced at the time of Sola
27:54
Muhammad. Allah will send them.
27:56
There is Hadith in both the books of the.
27:58
She understood me. There's a chapter in sahih,
27:59
Muslim called the chapter of motile.
28:01
So it's accepted at the time. The holy prophet was introduced.
28:04
It was Obviously, with with context and in circumstances.
28:08
Yeah. Okay.
28:09
And of course it was disbanded and removed by Ahmad the second
28:13
caliph and then thereafter as well.
28:15
Okay. Now that's that's the historical
28:19
basis. I'm sure.
28:19
There's maybe more. You want to add to that?
28:21
Maybe not, but in practice today in this day and age, a lot of
28:25
the time it's abused completely abused.
28:28
And there's a lot of vulnerable people out there who have
28:30
suffered as a result of it, who have been a victim of It and
28:35
maybe who were misled, who are taking us wade into the wrong
28:39
direction. Most of the time, if I'm going
28:41
to be really honest by a really conniving or deceiving male
28:45
manipulate manipulative, male, who has, who's done that.
28:49
Okay. And a lot of the time, we have
28:50
to be really honest, the guys out there who are abusing this,
28:54
please think twice and those out there who are normalizing.
28:57
It, you need to think more than twice because at the end of the
29:00
day, this is something which is affecting a community.
29:03
A In of Western sure, particularly Western Shia
29:07
Muslims, who are born and brought up.
29:09
Imagine you all your, your sisters, your mothers, your
29:12
daughter, that's very cliche, but people can get emotionally
29:15
and psychologically scarred in this day and age gonna talk
29:18
about physically, because Ops, that's a whole nother
29:20
discussion, but people get scarred to the point where it
29:23
affects their, their life, their relationships for years and
29:26
years and years to come. Some people are so put off by
29:30
the faith itself. That they will turn away from
29:33
it. So you have to be very conscious
29:34
and cautious when talking about it and demand, do you know just
29:38
just before you mentioned the abuse yeah of temporary
29:41
marriage. You mentioned, for example, it
29:44
was accepted unanimously, unanimously by all Muslims at
29:47
the time of also Lolly one who sent them.
29:49
Yeah. And then we know for example the
29:51
second caliph Omar bin al-khattab came and visited.
29:55
He stopped it and the important point and to this to this
29:58
temporary marriage but I want to make something clear.
30:01
Because a lot of Muslims around the world, they affect the hsia.
30:05
For this, they say, for example, Omar made Haram.
30:09
So if anyone comes now to practice temporary, marriage
30:12
with what's right about anyone's to practice what our marriage
30:16
and we also follow me are going. We got we are going in for Sola
30:19
out. I do want to mention one thing.
30:21
Nothing is only fair that I counter that point, right?
30:24
You know, being a chef podcast, we need to understand that as
30:27
shh as the followers of the l-bayt Elevate themselves
30:32
starting from rasool Allah to the Imam of our time.
30:35
Love's a blast. It was the one woman made him a
30:37
life hasten. His reappearance, not one of
30:39
them. I know any of our jurors, dear
30:43
dead to go against rasool Allah saying and to go against the
30:47
verse in the Quran that touches on this.
30:49
Because for us, the followers of they had a little bit Hannah and
30:52
Mohammed is halal until the day of judgment.
30:55
Okay. No one can come and say, for
30:57
example, this is not hard on. So the facts for example, on one
31:01
of them hotdog made that Haram it's not her job once as the
31:05
followers of the Hellas Basin, we take our Our Hajj, our
31:10
prohibition, or however, is from Muhammad Ali, Muhammad
31:13
sallallahu alayhe wassallam as mine.
31:15
No one else. But the fact, just because it's
31:18
permissible and going back to this abuse system, look,
31:21
everything that has Haram is proven to be bad for us, if not,
31:26
for us for society as a whole, right.
31:27
But everything that has Halal, does it mean it's good for you.
31:31
So and you know much, am I rich? When it came down, you mentioned
31:33
those the pretext of the context and I was the reasoning behind.
31:37
Why rasul Allah only one cent. Allowed this for certain
31:41
scenarios certain events such as wolves and Expeditions Etc.
31:44
Best he didn't. Come on make it the no he didn't
31:47
say no, every Tom Dick and Harry can now well do temporary
31:50
marriage. So we have to understand that
31:52
you know as men we all have sisters we all have inshallah
31:58
one day daughters, you know we all have nieces so it's a
32:03
sensitive topic not just for the sister because I know the
32:05
sisters may Allah bless all of them.
32:07
They have a huge issue with temporary marriage because they
32:10
see men abusing the system. And as men we need to say, if
32:15
you are abusing this, please stop one lie.
32:17
You are damaging families. Yes, I swear to God, I know of,
32:23
I know of an individual who has suffered so much because of
32:27
this, okay, this is a sister, so they have someone who is their
32:33
spouse and their going around left Ryan.
32:37
Center because it's Halal for them.
32:38
They have ruined the life of the system.
32:41
And if they don't understand that when you go and say, for
32:44
example, it's my god-given rights, Allah you are damaging
32:48
so back, you are emotionally hurting her, sometimes even
32:52
physically because when you going around everywhere, we're
32:56
going to come back and give, you know, there's more than just
33:00
mental health issues that can occur from the abuse.
33:04
And there is one thing I want to mention, which I'm not
33:06
comfortable. able to say, why did you want to say it if you
33:09
are a scholar, And because there are cases where sisters have
33:17
reached out to Scholars where they want advice or they want,
33:23
for example, to find a spouse or they want for example to seek to
33:28
understand what's Halal was Haram and everything.
33:31
You have these Scholars, not all of them, there are few.
33:35
Okay, and I respect every scholar, but when you yourself,
33:38
abused, this, you are taking these sisters away from Islam
33:41
completely. There is so much sisters out
33:43
there who have given up on faith completely, they've given up in
33:48
the hope of Allah. Subhanahu wa'ta'ala has origin
33:51
because Scholars abused the system.
33:52
I'll give an example. Yeah.
33:53
Okay. And I'm going to mention this
33:56
says is that was a sister who want to ask Allah to say I am
34:01
seeking marriage, she's divorced.
34:04
What did this caller do? Let me guess.
34:07
Well as I think I'd always go. He said do temporary marriage
34:10
with me? Yeah.
34:12
You understand. So when you are in this position
34:15
when you have a prominent position they have trust coming
34:19
soon and it's not just so I said I'm going to interrupt you Dawn
34:22
it's not just it's not a rare occasion like you hear these
34:25
things a lot by have to make clear that firstly not every
34:28
guy's like this. Not you know you get the good
34:31
and bad in both men and that's not the topic and so it starts
34:34
at the top. Yeah, of course, as to start the
34:36
top, You people have such examples and like at the top you
34:40
might have a scholar in a mosque, but the same way you
34:42
have an influence on line, Yahoo has in many occasions way, way,
34:47
way more influence than a lot of our Scholars do today,
34:50
unfortunately. So you'll have for example,
34:52
people who are Tick-Tock is or singers or whatever it might be,
34:55
or just random comedians online, who would endorse it?
34:58
Talk about it, engaging it even. Yeah.
35:02
And it like, I said, it normalizes this issue to the
35:04
point where guys who are 15 16, In 1718.
35:07
Even the younger at times are becoming aware of it personally,
35:11
and then think it, always normalized is fine at this guy.
35:13
Does that, that guy does it this guy in a cop to does it.
35:16
Therefore I can do it. They'll look for a girl and
35:18
they'll ask her to do it with him.
35:20
Well, me and sorry on the problem with this argument is
35:23
that, you know, when I say it starts at the top, I'm not even
35:26
talking about. For example, some Scholars have
35:28
using it. I'm talking about.
35:30
The those are the top they just telling the youth.
35:33
For example, this is an Avenue for you that you can take.
35:35
Yes, you did. The West, you know, you go to
35:39
university, North wanted to rob, you can take this route but
35:43
they're not telling them, there are terms and conditions.
35:45
There's a lot of baggage that can come with this supposed to,
35:49
like you said, say it if something is halal, doesn't make
35:51
it watch it. But so, for example, if it's if
35:54
it's allowed, doesn't make it good for you.
35:55
Yeah. And same way if something is
35:57
forbidden, it is forbidden because it's bad for you.
35:59
You know, it's interesting to note, for example, someone
36:01
mentioned this analogy to me in the conversation and the context
36:04
of motor, for example, you Go to a pharmacy.
36:07
Let's say what a common cold or a headache?
36:09
Yeah, you go to Pharmacy, not going to ask them to give you
36:11
antibiotics or drugs. Drugs medicines.
36:14
You know, you can explain the problem, you know, ask them
36:16
you're going to ask them what is suitable for me at this time?
36:19
Yeah. And they'll say, here's a
36:20
paracetamol, you're not going to, you're not going to take
36:22
something or engage in something, when it's not a
36:25
suitable time and place for it, you know, in the same way, with
36:28
this, there's many ways. And I have to mention this
36:31
openly, especially for the men young men, there's many ways to
36:36
We ourselves sexually and there's many ways to control
36:39
cells whole monali and all of that stuff.
36:42
Until the point where you become ready to marry you know and I'm
36:46
not saying in all cases it works, I'm not saying it works
36:48
indefinitely because obviously there's a lot of guys who are
36:50
not married at the age of 25, 30, 35 even later, right?
36:54
But what I am saying is that do not give up, so is the end.
36:57
Do not give in, you know, there's there's context where it
37:02
might be helpful. And there's context where it
37:04
might be the right thing to do, but don't Don't abuse it like
37:07
you're saying said, I'm just come on this note if you don't
37:09
mind saying that. Yeah, I'm gonna play a message
37:12
from our do respected Journal Muhammad.
37:14
For those who don't know shuttle model, of course, is a great
37:16
friend of myself and say I lie and of aftermarket abandoned ATV
37:21
he has supported us since day one.
37:23
He underlined he watches a lot of our content and even reviews.
37:26
A lot of our content, including this podcast as well.
37:30
Chef Mauro wanted to be here for this discussion of ocean.
37:33
He wasn't able to make it but he did send me a very short
37:36
message. Has to play to everyone at home
37:38
and if you don't mind, I'm going to lay this on behalf of the
37:40
ship on equals. It is indeed a very important
37:50
discussion. Yes, it is allowed by the fact
37:54
that it is allowed, doesn't necessarily suggest that anyone
38:02
is free to go for it just for the sake of going forage.
38:08
Some conditions and parameters must be met.
38:11
And the last thing Islam expect from each and every one of us.
38:18
Is to abuse and take advantage of its loss.
38:24
So we need to be careful how we go about practicing and
38:28
implementing some of these loss. I wish you all the best.
38:33
Keep up the good work salaam alaikum.
38:35
Yeah. Well, alaikum Salam.
38:42
He said that he was reminding the men do not abuse and take
38:47
advantage of its laws. Hmm similar point we made
38:51
earlier that you know just because it's halal.
38:54
Is good for you doesn't make it good.
38:55
It doesn't always in every case make it the right thing to do.
38:58
Yeah, you know. Okay, let me ask you another
39:01
question that maybe each other will start to melt before you
39:03
move on. Yeah.
39:04
I feel like you guys have really pushed it towards that people
39:09
shouldn't do people shouldn't go for it as whatever they want.
39:14
But what situation if there are situations that people do need
39:17
to understand what I will use them very much because it's only
39:21
fair that we mentioned when it's good.
39:24
Are you because there's wisdom in temporary marriage and
39:27
there's a lot of situations that but we have to remember that the
39:31
only ground that I'm aware of. I'd probably that most of us are
39:35
aware of is that it was used in the time of the holy prophet
39:38
Muhammad and the a little bit of a Muslim in times where there
39:40
was extreme length of period where a man was away from his
39:43
wife. For example, in sahih, Muslim
39:46
was the books of our brothers. It talks about Jabbar even
39:48
Abdullah ocalan. Sorry.
39:49
As well as other Companions of the holy prophet who were out on
39:53
Expert. Expedition with him a job.
39:55
It approached, the prophet and said, look what is the solution?
39:58
I'm in need I have the edge whatever.
40:00
My wife is not here and the holy prophet replied to him and he
40:03
said, look you can't do anything.
40:04
You can't, please yourself and you can't do this in that.
40:06
But what you can do is what our temporary marriage and these are
40:09
the conditions that you must adhere to.
40:12
Now, that's the only basis of that.
40:14
I my knowledge that we're aware of where it can be done.
40:17
So, when you say about, or what about the context, where it
40:19
needs to be done, is a very harvested, your job.
40:22
You can't just go and do temporary marriage with whoever
40:25
you please. It's not a free-for-all.
40:26
Hey, it's not free for all that. There's, there's rules to who
40:30
can do and who can't, for example, of course.
40:33
Yeah. And you know, the rules between
40:36
a male and female even different.
40:38
Yeah, so a female has her only act calm and and the guy has his
40:43
own account with this. Well yes, of course and you
40:45
know, just like permanent marriage is God, the period.
40:48
It's got for example, seeking permission from your father,
40:50
there is so much that goes into, it's not just like We just go.
40:54
The temporary marriage. Doesn't work like that.
40:56
Yeah, there is so much ruling. Unfortunately, I think that's
40:58
how it's been portrayed. You guys bye-bye influence
41:02
online. Yeah, I think like a lot of
41:05
people find that the hassle and the risks that come with
41:09
temporary marriage or not. Worth the time, it's better to
41:12
find someone to marry young, we've talked Time and Time, and
41:15
Time and Time Again, on this podcast, about the benefits of
41:17
marrying permanently and Brian young as hard as heck.
41:21
You know, a lot of us who you said, you married very young.
41:23
I know. Relatively young, Shalom.
41:25
So, most of our way along side, your Noble bless you with
41:27
another wife. I mean, but, you know, shot
41:31
like, you know, that helps people, right?
41:33
And a lot of times, you save yourself so much hassle,
41:36
Politics ziba, the all of these things that could come with
41:40
with. That's not worth it.
41:42
You don't know, you might be young, but it's not worth in the
41:43
future. There was once a gathering where
41:46
a bunch of Asha Bob and a bunch of boys car.
41:50
Remember how old I was? It's possibly I think I probably
41:53
18. 19. I have no idea how many years
41:55
ago, I'm 30 now. So, a long time ago, but I can
41:58
still remember this in the back of my head and this, and the say
42:01
that we having this discussion with its own varied.
42:03
It and normally, you know, sometimes like after my jawless
42:09
or for example, after 30 days, Muharram, 30 days of Ramadan, 10
42:13
nights Muharram. Nobody has a gathering with
42:15
Scholars where they sit with you.
42:17
I don't know if you've come across.
42:18
Yeah, of course. And sometimes like, five out of
42:21
ten questions that they asked to share comes to this.
42:24
This subject, really? And I remember this, this person
42:26
was like, for example, and he instilled in all of us where he
42:29
was, like, Mouton, marriage is not the norm.
42:33
It's not there for thing, and he explained it so beautifully when
42:36
he was like, if ever wants you even think of taking that route,
42:41
it's like a safety net for them because, you know, the Quran
42:46
tells you. For example, while I talk about
42:48
dinner, you know, don't even come close to on occasion and if
42:53
you find yourself As a young man, that is the advice.
42:56
He was given. If you find yourself as a Young
42:58
Man Rumble, we were like 18, 19, 20.
43:00
Some of us would like 22, 23, other time.
43:02
So many of us are for example, every day surrounded by the
43:06
shewhart of this world. You know, the pleasures of this
43:08
Dunya who can call it that translation to it.
43:11
Well for example, we could be at University or we are mixing with
43:15
the opposite gender left, right? And Centre for the last 23
43:18
years, for example, you know, all the surroundings and
43:21
environments, wherein or not home.
43:24
You know what studying what far away from home and we're far
43:27
away from local communities and were far away from all the
43:29
Muslims, but we'll only surrounded by seeing people who
43:33
immerse themselves in this world of, for example, dating go into
43:36
the pub, going clubbing, all of this.
43:39
So this kind of effects that young man, you know, where it
43:42
can feed into his desire, for example, seeking pleasure.
43:48
We can say, yeah, but he he reinforced in us to say it and
43:51
he was like this is not the norm.
43:54
And temporary marriage should only be considered?
43:58
In the times where you feel like you may go and fall into the
44:02
Trap of fornication even though he explains a loss to us.
44:06
And if people want to know what that karma for example if you
44:08
ever wanted to understand the the whole the whole idea of
44:13
temporary marriages use what's right what's permissible was not
44:16
permissible, please repeat your Mantra.
44:17
Not to me, of course that's ultimately he was saying how he
44:21
be broke. If you have the urge call your
44:23
mom, call your dad, say, only get married.
44:25
Yes, yeah, do not, I know. Desire or that satanic whisper
44:31
to tell you take the spot. Yes.
44:32
Because this is not what the hell.
44:34
Abate one from your happiness is absolutely integral PSI.
44:37
I know a lot of cases of young guys 1516, even her telling
44:41
their parents. I want to get married her.
44:43
It will get the gist if they're a good parent.
44:45
They'll never understand what they mean by that.
44:46
Because no fifteen-year-old Western Society wants to get
44:48
married because they won't have kids and raise, you know,
44:51
families. Probably not no more but they'll
44:53
get the gist and a good son, or good daughter will do that.
44:55
They'll say, look, I want to settle down.
44:58
A good parent will get the gist of that.
44:59
Look at the end of the day, guys, wherever you're listening
45:01
from. You might be completely against
45:03
it. You might be completely in favor
45:04
of it. You may think that it was there
45:06
in the time of the holy prophet and now it doesn't have any
45:08
relevance in this day and age. You may say it was there in the
45:11
timeline profit and therefore it needs of relevance today.
45:13
Whatever your opinion is honestly, that's good, you know,
45:17
but continue to research and don't, you know, don't take our
45:22
word as gospel. Like the same city as well
45:23
because we might, we might influence.
45:26
You saw, Our intention is not to Sway you in anyway /.
45:29
However, we do want to caution you and make sure that no one is
45:32
abusing. This particular act and more so
45:36
more. So when you hear about it from
45:39
friends or in school or in your community, make sure that it's
45:42
spoken about the level of respect and etiquette.
45:45
Because at the end of the day, anything, which is so novel from
45:48
Allah, is blessed in the sense that was relies introduce
45:52
something. Because, of course, we know not
45:54
sorting their service. 24 last one.
45:56
Tyler reminds the People and tells the people that you can
45:59
compile take in which all, which is of course, which is the
46:02
argument a lot of the shock Community use.
46:04
So remember that it has a basis and therefore it cannot be even
46:07
spoken about into too much of a derogatory manner.
46:10
You can discuss things in an academic setting and the right
46:13
context with the right people. But never never insult someone
46:17
because everyone is Charles is on their own Journey.
46:19
There's a lot of people have made mistakes in the past
46:21
sisters and brothers. If you are among that crowd
46:24
guys, don't don't worry about it, you know, you don't need to
46:26
blame yourself, we had it. Message a few months ago on
46:28
Instagram, from a sister who basically said that they've made
46:31
mistakes in the past and they feel like they will never be
46:34
forgiven. Guys, if you are listening, this
46:37
that sister is missing do not be too hard on yourself.
46:39
We've just come out this month of Shadow mabon inshallah?
46:42
All your sins are forgiven. You know ask your slate is clean
46:45
and should I say so don't be hard on yourself and if you're a
46:48
brother and you're in that faiza talking to a girl and we can
46:50
speak to the brothers girls because we're boys but you know
46:53
think twice, if you're a young sister, especially I'm going to
46:56
read out story. So because I know what, To the
46:58
end. But I'm going to read out a
46:58
message from a sister who said we can read this, share this
47:02
message without naming her. Of course, she says someone like
47:05
him. I think you have the perfect
47:06
platform to address how the practice of motor has been
47:09
misused predominantly by men. They used it to take advantage
47:12
of younger girls. Sometimes who get swayed by
47:15
emotions and false promises. So if you accomplish just one
47:18
thing from the discussion, please let it serve as a warning
47:21
to the younger female audience, that if a guy asks you to do
47:24
more tile without the permission of your wealthy or your
47:27
representative - mmm, you are. And if you are not someone who's
47:31
engaged in relations before, this is a huge red.
47:34
Huge red, cape that this man is wearing please.
47:36
And thank you. Now obviously, you know, we
47:39
talked to both the brothers and the sisters so think twice.
47:41
If you're young or if you're old shaaka, you'll be all right,
47:45
you're not going to die and you're not going to suffer that
47:46
bad. You can wait some time before
47:49
you find the right person for you in the long term and
47:52
shoulder and guidance will be there.
47:54
Always Charles launch on Law and thanks to the system for sending
47:57
that. Yeah, I know.
47:57
There's been so much other people that have contributed and
48:01
hopefully we've touched on what they feel is show.
48:05
We say beneficial to them, right?
48:06
Best if I can add a bit further. Yeah, to the conversation we
48:10
were having with that say that I mentioned a bit earlier where he
48:14
was like, for example, you know, there are times where temporary
48:17
marriage works. And it's important that you sort
48:24
of not abuse, it understand it and seek guidance from it before
48:31
you undertake it. However, the best examples where
48:35
temporary marriage can come and force where you can say, for
48:38
example, I am ready for temporary marriage is, for
48:42
example, you are a divorcee, you have children.
48:46
You have struggled for years to get married.
48:49
You haven't found the right spouse, that's willing to take
48:51
on as some men, call it these days, your baggage children at
48:55
the end of the day. So for example, they have
48:57
difficulties there. So, go seek guidance, for
49:00
example, what alternatives, do you have?
49:02
For example, having someone who can help provide, you someone
49:04
can help your own, the whole excetera.
49:06
That was one example. The other example that he gave
49:08
for example, he said, which I want the very interesting.
49:10
He said there are certain times where for example, you know,
49:14
back home, shall we say possibly in the Middle East?
49:17
For example, Gulf countries. Etc.
49:19
They have maids and servants in their homes.
49:23
So for example, where they don't want, for example, any Haram
49:27
from a conversation to take place, they will perform the
49:30
same pre-marriage. I'm not saying do this, I'm just
49:33
sharing why? Learn from the say it, right?
49:35
And another thing he was like for example some people have
49:38
injuries and these are life-changing injuries and at
49:42
times there are only certain doctors from the opposite gender
49:46
who can sorta injury and they require Such sometimes
49:50
situations such as up close physiotherapy.
49:53
So there are certain scenarios where this is allowed.
49:56
However, yes. However, you have to stipulate
50:00
in your contract, that this is what is the purpose of the and
50:06
angry, when you mentioning what are and have to have sense as
50:08
well. We're not just talking about
50:10
sexual relationships, Northern Iraq.
50:12
So like you mentioned about the case of a doctor and a patient.
50:15
Yeah. Or for example in those days As
50:19
someone who had Maids or slaves in their house in the olden
50:22
days. So, yeah, it could be.
50:25
So this is like, where it was used, like, where they would,
50:27
whether Scholars where I would, you respond.
50:29
Sure, for example, this awesome, but when we talk about it, I'll
50:32
see it can temporarily talk about in terms of having
50:35
relations with other girls. You know the other opposite
50:38
gender shall I felt like, I hope it's been helpful.
50:40
And of course we just want to reiterate that we are purely.
50:45
Just have a good near when we were putting this.
50:47
We don't want to offend anyone's, please forgive us.
50:49
If we have that Trudy was not Our intention.
50:52
Then what should I think that we wrap up?
50:53
No, yeah okay I'm just gonna say look if you are looking or for
51:00
example interested in the subject I haven't mentioned
51:03
earlier do not take us as gospel.
51:05
Yeah. Please find all the Islamic so
51:08
much, so much to overcome. What - Allah has a lot on it.
51:12
There's the he's my my job and Islam.
51:16
Dog. Has a lot on it, there's a lot
51:18
on Doors door. Talk about finding the right
51:20
partner in the right spouse in, for example, different areas or
51:25
different, dyes from the angle, beta them slams, a lot in terms
51:28
of finding a partner. And even, for example, to be
51:31
honest in this LOM, we've got guidance about how to control
51:34
yourself. If you're a guy, at least I know
51:36
as a guy when we're in our younger years.
51:39
What we used to be told and taught how to control yourself
51:42
and how to resist temptation. Yeah.
51:44
You know, there's so many things that can be done and to be
51:47
honest, there's even a movement in the West.
51:49
Involved but maybe one day we'll get into this in the
51:52
conversation of masculinity which I think is another
51:54
discussion. Yeah, indeed and just remember
51:57
what our is not the norm, the norm is permanent marriage is
52:00
Charlotte, and the Beautiful striped off mode.
52:02
Yeah. Before before we go should we
52:04
just go through some of the influences that people have
52:09
brought up a few times that we should follow a rather than
52:11
yeah. But you know by the way we don't
52:14
know if this is all I've gone through them and I'm happy I've
52:17
made some of the youth. I've picked the ones that have
52:21
come up more than once and that look that look interesting.
52:26
So you got the normal ones, have a job tamales, I have my key,
52:30
the Holloway there's a brother called Muhammad shower which is
52:35
which is content, looks really good.
52:37
And then the other two is much poetry.
52:39
Yeah, which is really nice with his poetry and Zane speaks with
52:42
his Yara videos, all one. Yes, both good friends.
52:49
These six came up quite a few times and just ask them.
52:52
Also, her saying your body is beautiful, a great friend of
52:54
mine from New York Charlie Hulme.
52:56
He's committed to join us and he's got the shot Allah.
53:00
And even those who are kind of, obviously a bit more well-known
53:03
mehdi Hassan as an example, we'll look up to very highly and
53:07
so many others, you know, social, okay, I will.
53:10
Yeah, I think it's good. I think viewers should find
53:13
influence from people who can give positive feedback to our
53:18
life Life. Yeah, rather than getting
53:20
influence from people who we shouldn't be looking up to.
53:22
Yeah, to me a joke, man. Other I said honestly, yeah,
53:26
lat, can I give one recommendation?
53:28
Yes. Yeah, I make sure I put it as a
53:30
note here right next to me. So I don't forget because, you
53:33
know, there are some people who are shy to open the subject with
53:36
that. Do the shy to open the subject
53:38
with the uncle. No local your mom or, you know,
53:40
the usual Community leader. But you can go online and I can
53:44
recommend a four-part series is very short I think each each
53:48
part of the I was about 20 to 25 minutes long and it's by Imam
53:53
say the most of Al qazwini and he explains to you everything
53:58
and anything that has got to do with temporary marriage and it's
54:00
titled the permissibility of temporary marriage in the Quran
54:04
and Sunnah. Four-part series on YouTube.
54:07
Easy accessible for Everyone by Satan was the Falcons.
54:09
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