Latest / NFL Now / The Packers move on from Aaron Rodgers, Bucky's Mock Draft, & an interview with Jeremy Chinn

Transcript

The Packers move on from Aaron Rodgers, Bucky's Mock Draft, & an interview with Jeremy Chinn · NFL Now

0:05
Speaker 1: NFL Now is a production of the NFL in partnership
0:08
Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Back in the studio here for another day
0:19
Speaker 1: of NFL Now on NFL Network from our newsroom in
0:23
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Thank you for watching today. My name is
0:25
Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliano. Any inside on who the Panthers are going
0:28
Speaker 1: to take at number one from one of their better
0:30
Speaker 1: defensive players, Jeremy Chin sitting at this desk, coming up momentarily.
0:35
Speaker 1: We begin, however, with what we learned at the NFL's
0:39
Speaker 1: annual meeting. We learned that Lamar Jackson is pushing back
0:43
Speaker 1: now more than ever. Yesterday, Falcon's under Arthur Blank seemed
0:48
Speaker 1: to suggest there's concerned around the league about Lamar Jackson's durability.
0:51
Speaker 1: He's missed ten games the last two seasons. Blank also
0:54
Speaker 1: said that they the Falcons will not pursue Lamar Jackson,
0:59
Speaker 1: who has the non exclusive franchise tag from the Ravens.
1:02
Speaker 1: He conside with anybody Lamar. A couple of hours later,
1:05
Speaker 1: I don't know that specifically, in response to what Arthur
1:08
Speaker 1: Blank said or what any of us have said, perhaps
1:10
Speaker 1: on television, said I don't remember me sitting out week
1:13
Speaker 1: one through Week twelve how come all of a sudden
1:16
Speaker 1: I sit out because of money in which I could
1:18
Speaker 1: have got hurt at any time within that time frame.
1:20
Speaker 1: We know the Super Bowl, but on my mind since
1:22
Speaker 1: April of eighteen, that's when Lamar Jackson was drafted. Let's
1:26
Speaker 1: get real. I'd rather have one hundred percent pc Elven
1:28
Speaker 1: go out there and play horrible, forcing myself to put
1:31
Speaker 1: my guys in a bad situation, now, that is selfish
1:35
Speaker 1: to me. Lamar Jackson also said that his niece swelled
1:40
Speaker 1: up after traveling for one of those games late in
1:42
Speaker 1: the season Ian Rappaport and Mike Garifolo games that he
1:46
Speaker 1: did not play in, and that was one of the
1:47
Speaker 1: reasons and maybe slowed his recovery regardless. Taking this yesterday
1:53
Speaker 1: with Ian what we saw Monday, the tweet about his
1:55
Speaker 1: trade request from back earlier in March. Do we think
1:59
Speaker 1: this is helping or hurting his cause to try to
2:03
Speaker 1: get a team to write an offer sheet. I don't
2:08
Speaker 1: know what Lamar Jackson's causes. I don't know what his
2:10
Speaker 1: ultimate goal is, and I think that's been one of
2:12
Speaker 1: the difficulties for the Baltimore Ravens as well. Does he
2:15
Speaker 1: want to be on another team. My understanding of his
2:18
Speaker 1: trade request was to the Ravens essentially, if you aren't
2:21
Speaker 1: gonna pay me, then let me go find someone who will,
2:25
Speaker 1: which is to me different Mike than maybe a trade request,
2:28
Speaker 1: because it did sound like, at least the version that
2:30
Speaker 1: I received, that he would prefer to me a Baltimore
2:33
Speaker 1: Raven if they were to pay him, with the second
2:36
Speaker 1: best option being getting an offer sheet from someone else,
2:38
Speaker 1: which the Ravens could still then potentially match. I know
2:41
Speaker 1: a lot of teams do believe they would potentially match.
2:44
Speaker 1: But this has been an interesting week in Arizona. I mean,
2:47
Speaker 1: I'm not still in Arizona, but we were in Arizona.
2:50
Speaker 1: Many many teams came out love the player, said great
2:53
Speaker 1: things about him, but explain why they would not pursue him.
2:55
Speaker 1: Does Lamar Jackson At the end of all this kind
2:58
Speaker 1: of realize maybe the best market is with the Ravens.
3:02
Speaker 1: Would be curious to know the answers to those questions.
3:05
Speaker 1: And look, the Ravens are still willing to pay him,
3:07
Speaker 1: despite the fact that the last two years he finished
3:09
Speaker 1: the season with an injury that took longer for him
3:12
Speaker 1: to recover from them was initially expected, which is something
3:15
Speaker 1: that teams around the league certainly have noticed. Now, Lamar,
3:19
Speaker 1: with his tweets, suggested that folks are saying he sat
3:22
Speaker 1: out those last couple of games because he hadn't gotten
3:24
Speaker 1: paid by that point. Well, the Ravens have been asked
3:27
Speaker 1: about that, and the Ravens have said, Eric to Costa said, look,
3:30
Speaker 1: that's a question for Lamar, but we have no reason
3:32
Speaker 1: to believe that. We think it was more a health
3:34
Speaker 1: thing that he just wasn't ready to be able to
3:36
Speaker 1: play late in the season there and again despite that
3:40
Speaker 1: the last two years him finishing the season not playing
3:43
Speaker 1: because of an injury. The Ravens have made him offers
3:46
Speaker 1: which are consistent with the top of the quarterbacks market
3:49
Speaker 1: and would love to do a deal in that realm,
3:52
Speaker 1: but for some reason Lamar Jackson hasn't accepted it. Now
3:54
Speaker 1: he's sort of put out through back channels that he
3:57
Speaker 1: doesn't want a fully guaranteed deal. Well, if that's the case,
4:00
Speaker 1: what the Ravens have offered him is comparable to what
4:03
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has received in some of these other quarterbacks
4:05
Speaker 1: have received. I don't know how much more he's expecting
4:08
Speaker 1: to get from somebody else because he doesn't have that
4:10
Speaker 1: offer sheet and no indication that any is coming. Andrew,
4:13
Speaker 1: and again, I'll reiterate what we said multiple times when
4:16
Speaker 1: we were all sitting together at the annual meeting in Arizona.
4:19
Speaker 1: You requested to trade. In essence, it's kind of been granted.
4:22
Speaker 1: It's a non exclusive franchise tag Lamar Jackson has the
4:25
Speaker 1: ability to go make your own trade. Go for it now.
4:28
Speaker 1: The Ravens have the right to match, but go make
4:31
Speaker 1: your own trade. You have that power. Jalen Hurts is not,
4:36
Speaker 1: and he is entering the final year of his contract.
4:38
Speaker 1: Remember not a five year deal for year deal because
4:41
Speaker 1: he was a second round pick. As we think Burrow,
4:44
Speaker 1: as we think Herbert, what's the latest with Jalen Hurts
4:47
Speaker 1: and his contract. No, there was a lot of optimism
4:51
Speaker 1: in Arizona regarding a potential Jalen Hurts would, no doubt,
4:54
Speaker 1: would be a massive contract extension. How Roseman, the general manager,
4:58
Speaker 1: said he could be done relatively soon, which does leave
5:01
Speaker 1: the window open for any time the next couple hours
5:03
Speaker 1: to any time in the next sever months. We'll see
5:05
Speaker 1: when it gets done. These things negotiations end up taking
5:09
Speaker 1: on a brain of their own. But the optimism was
5:11
Speaker 1: certainly there, and owner Jeffrey Larry talked to Eagles reporters yesterday,
5:16
Speaker 1: including Jeff McClain, which I'm reading from right now, with
5:19
Speaker 1: Lurie quoted as saying Jalen is the most mature twenty
5:23
Speaker 1: four year old I've ever come across, and essentially said
5:27
Speaker 1: how incredible he was because of his passion, because the
5:30
Speaker 1: way he prepares, because of the way he plays. You know,
5:33
Speaker 1: maybe a year ago it was sort of like, we're
5:35
Speaker 1: not sure which way this is going to go. The
5:37
Speaker 1: Eagles are all in for Jalen Hurts and this thing, Mike,
5:41
Speaker 1: really seems like only a matter of time. Yeah, And
5:44
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a number. That's gonna be a good number.
5:46
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the forty million plus range. Remember Daniel
5:49
Speaker 1: Jones got forty million, with the possibility to get a
5:52
Speaker 1: little bit higher, closer to forty three if he earned
5:54
Speaker 1: some of those incentives. So it'll be higher than that,
5:57
Speaker 1: but it won't be in the fifties. I mean, the
5:59
Speaker 1: Eagles have been pushing back at the notion that they
6:02
Speaker 1: would go that high. So it'll be a good number,
6:05
Speaker 1: it'll be a fair number, it'll be a great number
6:07
Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts, who one of these days this upcoming
6:10
Speaker 1: season will run out on the field in a jersey
6:12
Speaker 1: that is not Midnight Green, that is Kelly Green. Because that,
6:15
Speaker 1: to me was the big takeaway from what Jeffrey Laurie
6:17
Speaker 1: told the media yesterday. The Kelly Green jerseys are coming
6:20
Speaker 1: back now. They wore them years ago, but they had
6:23
Speaker 1: the numbers on the side. I want to see that
6:25
Speaker 1: eagle on the side, that old eagle logo that was
6:28
Speaker 1: there yet. Go see they have the six and the
6:30
Speaker 1: one on the shoulder there. I want to see an
6:33
Speaker 1: eagle because their current uniforms have the modern eagle logo
6:37
Speaker 1: on there. Can you put the spread wing the eagle,
6:39
Speaker 1: because that's what they had way back in the day. Regardless,
6:42
Speaker 1: they're gonna be sweet. They haven't said which game, but
6:44
Speaker 1: of course we don't even have the schedule yet, so
6:45
Speaker 1: how can they say which games? Mike Garafolo with all
6:48
Speaker 1: the finer points of the eagle sartorial splendor bringing back
6:51
Speaker 1: to Kelly Green. How about the control room having that picture.
6:55
Speaker 1: They hadn't ready had no idea that I was going
6:57
Speaker 1: to make that left turn I did. They were ready
6:59
Speaker 1: to go. They're the best in the business professionals. Tip
7:02
Speaker 1: of the captain Zando working social today and the back
7:05
Speaker 1: row getting that on the screen. Let's move on to TNF.
7:09
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. If flexing is not yet in okay,
7:12
Speaker 1: but what they did approve yesterday at the annual meeting
7:16
Speaker 1: is expanding the maximum number of games a team can
7:19
Speaker 1: play on Thursday Night Football this coming season from one
7:22
Speaker 1: to two. Let's start with the reaction and the commissioner,
7:25
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell. I think we have data this very clear.
7:30
Speaker 1: It doesn't show higher injury rate, but we recognize shorter weeks.
7:35
Speaker 1: We went through this from COVID too. I hear from
7:37
Speaker 1: a lot of players directly too. They love the ten
7:40
Speaker 1: days afterwards. In fact they call it a many buy
7:43
Speaker 1: and so there's some benefits on that side. So you
7:47
Speaker 1: have different views. You want to consider all of them.
7:49
Speaker 1: But players have different views, coaches have different views, and
7:53
Speaker 1: we have to try to balance all of it. I
7:55
Speaker 1: am adam only opposed to that flexible scheduling as it
7:59
Speaker 1: is is really inconsiderate to our season ticket holders and
8:03
Speaker 1: to people who are fill our stadiums every week. People
8:07
Speaker 1: have gotten used to going from Sunday afternoon to Sunday night.
8:10
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they like it. This year we
8:14
Speaker 1: could be flexed to Monday night, which I think is
8:18
Speaker 1: really inconsiderate to our ticket holders. But to flex a
8:22
Speaker 1: game back to Thursday night, to me, it's just abusive
8:26
Speaker 1: and I am adamly opposed to it. I think it
8:31
Speaker 1: didn't get Unfortunately, didn't get enough votes today, but he'll
8:35
Speaker 1: probably be revisited in men. All right, pretty strong language there,
8:39
Speaker 1: and from John Marra, one of the owners of the Giants,
8:42
Speaker 1: you didn't get enough votes, so we're looking at May.
8:45
Speaker 1: The question is will it get enough votes? How do
8:49
Speaker 1: we read the room in a couple of months, Well
8:53
Speaker 1: read the room that John Marris standing, and he was
8:55
Speaker 1: very angry and calling it abusive was something that I
8:58
Speaker 1: was not, frankly expecting to hear from John Marrow very
9:01
Speaker 1: takes it, takes it very seriously, and obviously for him,
9:05
Speaker 1: the treatment of local fans in this situation is paramount
9:08
Speaker 1: to the treatment of non local fans and casual football
9:10
Speaker 1: fans who may or may not be watching on TV
9:13
Speaker 1: and want a much better game to watch than what
9:15
Speaker 1: might otherwise be on TV. And it didn't come up
9:18
Speaker 1: a ton last year, but it did come up some
9:20
Speaker 1: and I think if you're someone who likes watching Thursday
9:22
Speaker 1: night football, sitting through a game that could be better
9:25
Speaker 1: when there are other flex options is something that at
9:28
Speaker 1: least is going to be considered. And Roger Goodell, I
9:30
Speaker 1: think Mike explain this pretty well, saying they have to
9:33
Speaker 1: balance the needs of both fans, the TV fans and
9:37
Speaker 1: the local fans, and maybe they get there by allowing
9:40
Speaker 1: teams to play more than once on Thursday night. Maybe
9:43
Speaker 1: that takes care of this issue more than anything. But
9:45
Speaker 1: it'll be revisited in May and a little over a month,
9:49
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a schedule release show here on NFL Network,
9:52
Speaker 1: so'll be sure to tune into that. We'll get you
9:53
Speaker 1: the exact date once we know. We're going to say,
9:56
Speaker 1: start with planning your fall. What's that I said, you're
9:59
Speaker 1: good with that. You're you're really good at projecting the
10:02
Speaker 1: promos out there is what I'm saying. There's your promo.
10:05
Speaker 1: But we're also going to say start planning your fall right, like,
10:07
Speaker 1: get your hotels, get your who you can travel with
10:10
Speaker 1: you to go to the games, and all this stuff.
10:12
Speaker 1: And then you're gonna change that on fifteen days. Notice,
10:16
Speaker 1: I'm team John Marra on this one. I'm sorry, I agree.
10:18
Speaker 1: I think this is way too much of a change.
10:20
Speaker 1: Even the Sunday to Monday thing that he referenced, that's
10:22
Speaker 1: a tough change for the fans as well. So he
10:26
Speaker 1: is an influential owner and he's not shy about saying
10:29
Speaker 1: things publicly when he feels a certain way. So perhaps
10:33
Speaker 1: this will sway those folks into making sure that Thursday
10:38
Speaker 1: Night football stays as it's currently situated without Now, look,
10:42
Speaker 1: I know they want to improve the games too, And
10:43
Speaker 1: the other side of this is the other thing I'm
10:44
Speaker 1: thinking about as I'm talking this through, is you're taking
10:47
Speaker 1: a game that would be played on Sunday with full rest.
10:51
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good game, right, That's why you're
10:53
Speaker 1: flexing it because it's a good game. Well, now you're
10:55
Speaker 1: shortening the rest for both teams in the preparation. Does
10:58
Speaker 1: that takeaway from the quality of that game? Whereas if
11:00
Speaker 1: you played it on the Sunday like it's scheduled, teams
11:03
Speaker 1: would have more time to be more arrested, the quality
11:06
Speaker 1: of the game would stay up. Think about that one.
11:08
Speaker 1: I got you back, John Mara By the way, Tom
11:11
Speaker 1: Pella sero last hour you thanked him even though he's
11:13
Speaker 1: not here. Here's a tweet that the control room is
11:16
Speaker 1: ready for here to bing it up. Here's Tom Peace
11:19
Speaker 1: and are you welcome. That's very nice to Tom Good
11:21
Speaker 1: to know that that perhaps at thirty five thousand feet
11:26
Speaker 1: en route to Florida pro day. Not sure, regardless, we
11:30
Speaker 1: thank Tom for one. Yeah, yep, there's one viewer. Love you, Mike.
11:38
Speaker 1: Moving on to Jordan Love if you will. How about
11:41
Speaker 1: that there is Aaron Rodgers still very much a packer
11:44
Speaker 1: as the annual meeting breaks and the Packers and Jets
11:47
Speaker 1: still do not have a deal, at least not yet. Griend,
11:54
Speaker 1: Do you have an offer on the table from the Jets?
11:56
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? Am I gonna get the details of that.
11:58
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of discussions, you know, I've known
11:59
Speaker 1: Joe for a long time and they've been really good
12:01
Speaker 1: discussions and really you know, cordial, and we'll continue to
12:04
Speaker 1: have those conversations and hopefully we can come to agreement
12:06
Speaker 1: sooner or later. We talked to Joe here at all
12:08
Speaker 1: about that specific I already talked to him. Um, you know,
12:11
Speaker 1: whether we have like you know, I sit down formal
12:13
Speaker 1: or like that. But we've been talking on the phone
12:14
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Now, is there any scenario
12:17
Speaker 1: that you'd be comfortable making a trade without getting a
12:19
Speaker 1: first round pick back? Yeah, I mean, I think you know, um,
12:22
Speaker 1: but it's that's not a necessity. But at the same time, um,
12:27
Speaker 1: you know, the value of the players is he's a
12:29
Speaker 1: premiere player, you know, so they get their premiere picks
12:32
Speaker 1: back for that is or players is important. Do you
12:34
Speaker 1: have to have picks this year or would you be
12:36
Speaker 1: willing to wait till you know, future draft? I think
12:39
Speaker 1: as soon as the better, you're better. I think certainly
12:41
Speaker 1: if we get beyond the draft and everything changes, compensation changes,
12:44
Speaker 1: and and you know, so that would be a whole
12:46
Speaker 1: different scenario. But hopefully we can get this done soon.
12:48
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is. And at the
12:51
Speaker 1: same time, we're excited about Jordan and what he's been
12:54
Speaker 1: able to how how he's been able to progress as
12:57
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, um, how he's matured as a man
13:02
Speaker 1: um and you know, it's going to be a a
13:05
Speaker 1: different role for him certainly, And I think we all
13:08
Speaker 1: have to kind of temper our expectations with you know
13:11
Speaker 1: for him, it's just it's different when you're going into
13:16
Speaker 1: a game versus when you're starting a game and it's
13:19
Speaker 1: going to be a process. There is a lot to
13:22
Speaker 1: unpack your Stacy Dale's Fucky Brooks back with me from
13:25
Speaker 1: the annual meeting from Mark Murphy's comments which were set
13:28
Speaker 1: out today from the Packers twitter feed, in which he said,
13:31
Speaker 1: you know, our players are excited for Jordan Loves saying
13:34
Speaker 1: all the right things and once again refriend Aaron Rodgers
13:36
Speaker 1: kind of sort in the past tense here, let's go
13:38
Speaker 1: back to the past, Stacy. Brian Goodacut's also opened up
13:41
Speaker 1: about the end of the season and how he tried
13:43
Speaker 1: to get in touch with Aaron Rodgers and really, I
13:46
Speaker 1: know Rodgers says that like the Packers weren't very transparent
13:50
Speaker 1: with him, said that he couldn't get a hold of him. Hm,
13:54
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be nice, Andrew and Bucky if we could
13:56
Speaker 1: get Aaron and Brian to sit together and do a
13:59
Speaker 1: pressor together. Wouldn't that be rad? Yeah, we carried that live.
14:05
Speaker 1: That'll never happen, right, Okay, So listening to Brian Goudacoots
14:09
Speaker 1: this week, almost punching back at Aaron Rodgers and his
14:12
Speaker 1: comments on the Pat McAfee show. Because of what you
14:15
Speaker 1: just said, Andrew, we couldn't get a hold of the quarterback.
14:18
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because I was again at that
14:20
Speaker 1: week eighteen loss at home against Detroit. The next day,
14:23
Speaker 1: I was reporting from the atrium at lambeau Field. I
14:26
Speaker 1: bumped into a high ranking official and he said the
14:29
Speaker 1: same thing. Corroborated it with me. We can't get ahold
14:32
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, maybe they just
14:35
Speaker 1: were Bucky ready for Jordan Love because as Brian Goudacoots
14:38
Speaker 1: also said, it's been trending that direction the whole time.
14:43
Speaker 1: It's just time, frankly, for him to play football. I
14:46
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers knew that. I think the Packers knew that.
14:49
Speaker 1: But obviously the miscommunication lived and it continues to live
14:53
Speaker 1: between the two sides. But sooner than later is the
14:57
Speaker 1: operative work for these Green Bay Packers, Bucky. They want
14:59
Speaker 1: to get this thing done before the draft, because, as
15:01
Speaker 1: Gudacoot said, it changes everything, especially when you think about
15:05
Speaker 1: that word compensation. I expect them to get this down.
15:09
Speaker 1: One side is going to have to budge Bucky. Yeah,
15:13
Speaker 1: one side will eventually budge and they'll get the deal done.
15:15
Speaker 1: And you know, Stacy's like, what you're hearing in terms
15:18
Speaker 1: of goody talking is there's a sense of exasperation and
15:21
Speaker 1: exhaustion from having to deal with the Aaron Rodgers saga
15:24
Speaker 1: the last few years. Probably I've heard that, and so
15:28
Speaker 1: there's going to be I guess, and the team will
15:31
Speaker 1: energize in terms of the front office, the coaching staff
15:34
Speaker 1: being able to prove to people that they can do
15:36
Speaker 1: this without Aaron Rodgers. And that's not a slight to
15:38
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but at some point you want everyone who
15:42
Speaker 1: is all in in terms of look pulling the boat
15:44
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Everyone is getting along. There's a
15:47
Speaker 1: level of chemistry and continuity where people are trying to
15:51
Speaker 1: get this thing on the right path so you can
15:53
Speaker 1: chase championships. Then will that happen in the immediate future
15:56
Speaker 1: with Jordan Love. Who knows, But I do know there
15:59
Speaker 1: are people that feel like Jordan Love is going to
16:01
Speaker 1: be able to hold his own. He's had time to
16:03
Speaker 1: develop on the practice, he's had opportunities to learn and grow,
16:08
Speaker 1: and that was time to put it in play. And
16:10
Speaker 1: remember Aaron Rodger's career started in a similar fashion where
16:13
Speaker 1: he sat behind Brett for for a while and then
16:15
Speaker 1: he finally handed the keys to the kingdom to him
16:17
Speaker 1: and he responded to explindid fashion, maybe just maybe. Jordan
16:20
Speaker 1: Lowe follows a similar booprint. The temper expectations line also
16:25
Speaker 1: sticks out. Yesterday from Matt Lafloor. Wasn't a dig whatsoever,
16:29
Speaker 1: just a little bit of dosa reality here and I'm
16:31
Speaker 1: sure one that we will remember when they get back
16:34
Speaker 1: on the field with Jordan Love. It seems in September, Stacey,
16:38
Speaker 1: let's turn to the Lions. I mean, they were the
16:40
Speaker 1: hottest team in football, one of them the second half
16:42
Speaker 1: of the season, including beating the Packers Week eighteen and
16:45
Speaker 1: keeping them out of the playoffs. One team here from
16:47
Speaker 1: this annual meeting. The Lions are primed to win this year.
16:53
Speaker 1: It seems they are primed to win. I would jump
16:57
Speaker 1: through a brick wall for Dan Campbell. I don't know
16:59
Speaker 1: about you too, but I would also be a show
17:01
Speaker 1: of stacy. It would be. But there's just so much
17:04
Speaker 1: that he's says and he does, and his actions and
17:07
Speaker 1: the volumes they speak, the words that he speaks, and
17:10
Speaker 1: he said, you know, the floor, he calls it. Now.
17:13
Speaker 1: The floor has been raised in Detroit. We know that,
17:15
Speaker 1: coach Campbell. They won eight of their last ten regular
17:18
Speaker 1: season games. They should have been playing in the playoffs. Frankly,
17:21
Speaker 1: they ended up, I would say, as the best team
17:23
Speaker 1: in the NFC North at the end of the year.
17:26
Speaker 1: An equivocally, he told reporters this week at the owners meetings.
17:30
Speaker 1: The goal now is undoubtedly the division. They want to win,
17:34
Speaker 1: the NFC North, and they are poised to do so
17:37
Speaker 1: because not only have they revamped their defense, which by
17:40
Speaker 1: the way, got a lot better towards the end of
17:41
Speaker 1: the year, they have incredible draft capital of eight. They're APIs.
17:46
Speaker 1: They have five through the first three rounds six, eighteen,
17:50
Speaker 1: forty eight, fifty five and eighty one. Brad Holmes, the
17:53
Speaker 1: general manager, has a lot to work with right there.
17:56
Speaker 1: And then the best part above it all, about it
17:58
Speaker 1: all is that Ben Johnson, their offensive coordinator, he didn't leave,
18:02
Speaker 1: He stayed. This was a top five defense offense, excuse me,
18:05
Speaker 1: in many metrics, and when you think about what they did,
18:08
Speaker 1: they protected the ball better than anybody. They gave up
18:12
Speaker 1: very few sacks, second in the NFL in terms of
18:15
Speaker 1: few as sacks. They were a top five total defense,
18:19
Speaker 1: scoring defense, a top five total defense. And it all
18:21
Speaker 1: starts with that relationship with Jared Goff and Ben Johnson,
18:24
Speaker 1: Bucky and Andrew. I cannot wait. They're going to be dynamic.
18:27
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams is almost like getting another first round pick
18:30
Speaker 1: because he barely played last year, replaced DJ Shark. But
18:34
Speaker 1: this offense is going to be dynamic in my ice,
18:37
Speaker 1: all trending in the right direction. D J Shark recently
18:40
Speaker 1: added to the Carolina Panthers. We'll get to them coming
18:42
Speaker 1: up in a little bit. Thank you, Bucky, Thank you
18:44
Speaker 1: Stacy Be coming up next. However, but I told you
18:48
Speaker 1: Bucky doesn't have will Levis in his first round. No, no, no, really,
18:52
Speaker 1: it's strange but true. Not in his first round. The
18:56
Speaker 1: Bucky mocked draft and why coming up next NFL? Now,
19:06
Speaker 1: all right, let's get back to the Boockey books Brooks
19:08
Speaker 1: a bigger part in pro Day and get back to Kentucky.
19:11
Speaker 1: This past Friday, so Live a NFL plus will Levis
19:14
Speaker 1: working out for had state quarterback ran a lot there.
19:17
Speaker 1: It got to Kentucky had a really good twenty one
19:20
Speaker 1: twenty two. Liam Cohen was here in La things a
19:24
Speaker 1: little bit different, maybe not the big numbers, but he's
19:26
Speaker 1: got the big arm. Here's Mark stoop Friday with Stacy Dale's.
19:31
Speaker 1: He doesn't need us to make excuses for him. He
19:33
Speaker 1: can own his own mistakes and he will when he does.
19:36
Speaker 1: And there their times and plays um that you can't
19:41
Speaker 1: defend and he knows that and he will learn from
19:44
Speaker 1: that and grow from that. He's he's played two years
19:47
Speaker 1: of the at this level. You know, we really got
19:49
Speaker 1: on the field and play and he's going to get
19:51
Speaker 1: better with every opportunity. Has all the physical skills, he
19:54
Speaker 1: wants to be great, and he works at it. And
19:58
Speaker 1: you saw when we did have three NFL offensive lineman
20:01
Speaker 1: the year before and in the system that we had
20:03
Speaker 1: and with Liam, the comfort level that he had in
20:05
Speaker 1: that system, the success he had, and you know, so
20:10
Speaker 1: you know last year, you know, it is what it is.
20:13
Speaker 1: And you know, I would venture to say a lot
20:15
Speaker 1: of NFL teams go through some ups and downs as well, absolutely,
20:18
Speaker 1: and they want a guy that's going to just continue
20:20
Speaker 1: to fight and continue to lead, and you know, I
20:24
Speaker 1: know he'll do that. And the Liam again being Liam
20:26
Speaker 1: Cohen the OC two years ago, spent last year in
20:29
Speaker 1: LA and now is back with Kentucky. Here's a board
20:33
Speaker 1: comparing Levis and Josh Allen, who came out in twenty eighteen.
20:37
Speaker 1: Play action numbers here between Kentucky and Wyoming now Bucky Brooks.
20:42
Speaker 1: In eighteen, Josh Allen went seventh overall to the Bills.
20:47
Speaker 1: In your latest mock draft, and Mark is with us
20:49
Speaker 1: as well. Fucking your latest mock. You have Levis, who
20:52
Speaker 1: some have even projected as high as one, falling out
20:56
Speaker 1: of the first round. Why because, quite frankly, Andrew like
21:02
Speaker 1: you typically shouldn't take projects high in the first round.
21:05
Speaker 1: And then when you think about Will Levis and what
21:08
Speaker 1: is done. His coach just talked about the struggles that
21:10
Speaker 1: you saw recently on tape. And so when I look
21:13
Speaker 1: at Will Levis, I do see some intriguing attributes. I
21:16
Speaker 1: do see the size, I see the athleticism, I see
21:19
Speaker 1: the armed talent. But I also see someone who is
21:22
Speaker 1: inconsistent when it comes to the accuracy, questionable judgment at
21:26
Speaker 1: time when he has the ball in his hands. And
21:28
Speaker 1: even though he has all of this upside, what I
21:31
Speaker 1: worry about is if you overdraft him, there's depression to
21:34
Speaker 1: put him on the field. Right away, and I don't
21:36
Speaker 1: think he's built like that. And even though the comparison
21:39
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen might be valid, I think Josh Allen
21:42
Speaker 1: is a little different. I also think Josh Ellen was
21:44
Speaker 1: surrounded by great supporting cast in Buffalo that pulls some
21:47
Speaker 1: of that talent out of him that we didn't necessarily
21:49
Speaker 1: see consistently at Won't. Yeah, but the one hundred percent
21:53
Speaker 1: agree with you. But as we know, the NFL is
21:56
Speaker 1: a copycat league, and that Josh Allen comparison is going
21:59
Speaker 1: to get keep thrown around in draft rooms for proponents
22:03
Speaker 1: of Will Levis, whether it's the court back coach, where
22:05
Speaker 1: there's nariuscount, where it's a coordinator, whoever it is in
22:07
Speaker 1: someone's building that's loving Will Levis because of the arm,
22:12
Speaker 1: because of the athletic ability, They're going to keep referring
22:15
Speaker 1: to Josh Shallen. And that comparison is because Josh Allen's
22:18
Speaker 1: tape was not great at Wyoming, but he had the
22:20
Speaker 1: physical traits. Will Levis's tape at there Kentucky is not great,
22:26
Speaker 1: not good, So you have to lean on that if
22:28
Speaker 1: you're a proponent or Will Levice and it just takes
22:32
Speaker 1: one team. He only needs one team to say we
22:35
Speaker 1: can get this out of him much for like we
22:37
Speaker 1: did Josh Allen. As as Bucky said, I think Josh
22:40
Speaker 1: Allen was special. That was a special case. Usually when
22:42
Speaker 1: you have those guys, you can't follow it up and
22:44
Speaker 1: say everybody's gonna be the next Josh Allen. So that
22:47
Speaker 1: is a concern. But those who really want him, that's
22:50
Speaker 1: where they're going to keep pushing towards and we'll see.
22:53
Speaker 1: I think eventually he will end up with the Burnt
22:55
Speaker 1: Crown people. Teams can't resist themselves, but there are huge
22:58
Speaker 1: concerns that I have with his game. DJ and Charles,
23:02
Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Davis last week had Will Levis going nineteen
23:06
Speaker 1: and twenty three. Bucky, let's throw up your eleven through twenty.
23:11
Speaker 1: You speaking of quarterbacks and speaking of guys that maybe
23:14
Speaker 1: haven't done it enough but certainly have the traits and
23:17
Speaker 1: certainly project to the next level. You have Anthony richardson
23:21
Speaker 1: Bucky going twenty to the Seahawks. That one's interesting because
23:26
Speaker 1: some people have them potentially going five to the Seahawks. Okay,
23:33
Speaker 1: let me preface this by saying, I believe if we
23:35
Speaker 1: were in a draft room, Will Levis and Anthony richards
23:38
Speaker 1: and cars should be side by side. They should be
23:40
Speaker 1: next to each other because the same conversation that I
23:43
Speaker 1: have about Will Levis, I can have about Anthony Richardson
23:45
Speaker 1: in terms of being intrigued by the physical tools but
23:49
Speaker 1: also being concerned about the way that it played out.
23:52
Speaker 1: The comparisons that people made with Anthony Richardson and Cam
23:55
Speaker 1: Newton and Jalen Hurts to me, I think they're stretched
23:58
Speaker 1: because both of those guys, respectively dominated in the SEC.
24:02
Speaker 1: We haven't seen Anthony richard and do that. I said,
24:05
Speaker 1: six four two forty four pounds, big time arm tellent,
24:09
Speaker 1: outstanding athlete. If you're the Seattle Seahawks and you have
24:12
Speaker 1: two first round picks, you have the luxury of maybe
24:14
Speaker 1: parking in behind Geno Smith and maybe your coaching staff
24:18
Speaker 1: can work wonders with him. That said, it's still a
24:21
Speaker 1: big projection, and I am not confident that if Mark
24:24
Speaker 1: asked me as a scout, if I was working for
24:27
Speaker 1: him back in the day, could I say he's a
24:28
Speaker 1: first round pick. I don't know if I can unanimously
24:31
Speaker 1: say that Anthony Richson is a first round pick. Bucky.
24:35
Speaker 1: The major thing you talk about was the domination, thinking
24:38
Speaker 1: that what I would runs draft meetings and our scouts
24:40
Speaker 1: were proponents for players and had all these physical tools.
24:44
Speaker 1: They say, well, why he's had those at Florida? Why
24:47
Speaker 1: didn't he dominate there? As he said, why wasn't he
24:49
Speaker 1: very good? Why are we watching these games and they're
24:52
Speaker 1: struggling so much? He's not. When I magically get to
24:55
Speaker 1: the NFL and all these schools, he's got going to
24:57
Speaker 1: come together. He should have shown that there. Now, if
25:00
Speaker 1: you dominate at your level at the college level, then
25:03
Speaker 1: you have from flaws. Then we can talk through it, say, yes,
25:05
Speaker 1: he's gonna you're gonna overcome these falls because you've already
25:08
Speaker 1: shown your ability to dominate. When you haven't done that
25:11
Speaker 1: or even play particularly well, that's the concern. And yes,
25:14
Speaker 1: I agree with you those two guys, Levis and Richardson
25:17
Speaker 1: should be put together. But a place like Seattle is
25:19
Speaker 1: the perfect place where there is no pressure. There's the
25:21
Speaker 1: infrastructure there for him to grow. Whether you believe he's
25:25
Speaker 1: going to be good or not, that's the environment he
25:27
Speaker 1: has to be in that Levis has to be in
25:29
Speaker 1: in order to have a chance to thrive. Andrew it
25:32
Speaker 1: is a fascinating quarterback conversation because you don't want a
25:35
Speaker 1: whiff on a first round quarterback, yet recent history shows
25:39
Speaker 1: you there are a lot of whiffs on first round quarterbacks.
25:44
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bucky, Thank you Mark again. Bucky's mock draft
25:47
Speaker 1: right now on NFL dot com and you can see
25:50
Speaker 1: Anthony richardson Throw tomorrow exclusively on NFL Plus. Go get
25:55
Speaker 1: it bus dot NFL dot com, BLUs dot NFL dot com.
25:59
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are going to be there, and they're going
26:02
Speaker 1: to be right there in Kansas City at APM Eastern time,
26:05
Speaker 1: the night of April twenty seventh, the NFL Draft one
26:07
Speaker 1: month away, presented by the Horizon. Please make a note
26:12
Speaker 1: of it all I mentioned the Carolina Panthers. They've got
26:17
Speaker 1: a lot of good pieces in place already, including that
26:19
Speaker 1: guy at the secondary and a lie back for sometimes
26:22
Speaker 1: as well, depending on where you play him. We play
26:24
Speaker 1: him right here at the desk. Coming up next. That
26:26
Speaker 1: is Jeremy Chin in the building here at NFL Network.
26:31
Speaker 1: Straight ahead on my mastate off the whists, the shotguns,
26:45
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin and the back field. Here's the pressure off
26:49
Speaker 1: the edge. Gito's hit throws to the sunlo and swatted
26:53
Speaker 1: away right. Jeremy Chin takes the snap, throws on the run,
26:58
Speaker 1: nearly intercepted under center, pastens the crow. Thanks, now you're
27:02
Speaker 1: gonna go down. Jeremy Chin sends paston down. Yeah, one
27:07
Speaker 1: of the best. Actually, there are only three safeties last
27:10
Speaker 1: year that according to PFF, and not a lot of
27:11
Speaker 1: way touchdown went in primary coverage. We do film study
27:15
Speaker 1: here and one of them is sitting at the desk
27:17
Speaker 1: right now, the safety for the Carolina Panthers, Jeremy Chen.
27:20
Speaker 1: It's good to see you. Thanks, Andrew. Happy to be here.
27:22
Speaker 1: You've been spending a lot of time in LA. Tell
27:24
Speaker 1: me what your off season has been like, a little
27:27
Speaker 1: bit of traveling. Been out here, um Iron LA training
27:30
Speaker 1: in Cino Hills Sports. We have LA, so they've helped
27:33
Speaker 1: me a lot. Started doing some some different things, some
27:35
Speaker 1: pilates as well, so it's helped me a lot. This
27:38
Speaker 1: season two is doing jiu jitsu. You had the handy
27:41
Speaker 1: last year. You're doing a lot more pilates. More pilates. Yeah,
27:45
Speaker 1: and that's kind of hell. I mean pilates is the
27:47
Speaker 1: thing now, Yeah, I mean that's what I've heard. So
27:49
Speaker 1: you know, I got recommended it. I tried it a
27:51
Speaker 1: couple months ago, and I've been hooked to it all right,
27:53
Speaker 1: hoping it's gonna work and hoping we're getting ready for
27:55
Speaker 1: a big year here. There are a lot of changes
27:57
Speaker 1: obviously with your team. How about some of the free
27:58
Speaker 1: agent moves. Can we throw them on the screen here,
28:01
Speaker 1: because you guys as also obviously made the trade and
28:04
Speaker 1: you're moving up to number one, Andy Daltons and now
28:07
Speaker 1: with quarterback Miles Sanders, Hayden Hurst, DJ Chark, a lot
28:10
Speaker 1: of moves around the offensive side, Adams Dealing as well.
28:14
Speaker 1: What do you think, Jeremy, We got some we got
28:16
Speaker 1: some dogs. We got a lot of pieces. I'm super excited.
28:19
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see the plan as the heads
28:22
Speaker 1: around you know whoever we end up taking, you know,
28:24
Speaker 1: with some pieces. You know, Miles Sanders a solid, really
28:27
Speaker 1: good running back. I remember playing against him. Um, he's
28:30
Speaker 1: really good. Adam Dealing, how about to play against him
28:33
Speaker 1: as well? Hayten Hurts a really good tight end, very
28:36
Speaker 1: underrated in the league, I believe. So we have a
28:39
Speaker 1: lot of pieces, a lot of a lot of guys.
28:40
Speaker 1: Where were you when you heard that, you guys A
28:43
Speaker 1: traded DJ Moore. Yeah, but B moved up to number one.
28:48
Speaker 1: I was in Cabo, I was in Mexico. So you're
28:51
Speaker 1: sitting by the pool, may you got your feet up,
28:54
Speaker 1: got a drink, and your phone blows up We're moving
28:57
Speaker 1: up to number one. I was, yeah, I was. I
28:59
Speaker 1: was shocked your reaction total shock. I was like, damn.
29:03
Speaker 1: My first thought was just losing DJ. That was really
29:06
Speaker 1: the first thing that came to my mind. So, you know,
29:08
Speaker 1: just you know, talking to my guys, and I called
29:10
Speaker 1: my moms, like, yeah, we just traded DJ. You know.
29:12
Speaker 1: She she's a big DJ more fans, so she was
29:14
Speaker 1: upset about it. But um, but then realizing, like looking
29:17
Speaker 1: at the bigger picture, saying, we have the number one
29:20
Speaker 1: overall pick and just the future that you know we
29:22
Speaker 1: have ahead of us is super excited too. Have you
29:25
Speaker 1: had the chance to text Scott Federer yet and tell
29:27
Speaker 1: him who you want at number one? No? I have
29:30
Speaker 1: not have not texted him that yet. Have you watched
29:31
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks at all? I mean, did you get a
29:33
Speaker 1: chance on Saturdays we have a little bit of your
29:36
Speaker 1: game on Sunday to have an opinion a little bit
29:38
Speaker 1: Sunday night, you know, I mean Saturday night, you'll turn
29:39
Speaker 1: on the hotel or whatever watched the game. So I
29:41
Speaker 1: caught I've caught a good amount of both CJ. Stroud
29:44
Speaker 1: and Bryce Young, but the other guys I haven't seen
29:46
Speaker 1: too much of. But I mean, it is a transition.
29:48
Speaker 1: I went and looked up all the quarterbacks here, So
29:50
Speaker 1: since you got there, we have, Um, we got Teddy Bridgewater, PJ.
29:57
Speaker 1: Sam cam Baker. Now it's gonna be Andy Dalton and
30:02
Speaker 1: likely quarterback to me Dame later. Yeah, make your that's
30:05
Speaker 1: a lot. It is a lot. What's it gonna be
30:07
Speaker 1: like though, to transition, likely from a veteran to eventually
30:11
Speaker 1: if you're taking a guy at number one? Yeah, I
30:13
Speaker 1: mean what's that like for a locker room knowing that
30:15
Speaker 1: there's likely going to be a guy over there waiting
30:18
Speaker 1: to take over? Um, you know, I think the big
30:21
Speaker 1: thing is, you know the leaders that are in the
30:22
Speaker 1: locker room right now to you know, pick that guy
30:24
Speaker 1: up and encourage them. And you know, you come in
30:27
Speaker 1: here and then won't overall pig you automatically have a
30:29
Speaker 1: leadership role. So just to encourage that and bring that
30:32
Speaker 1: out of the quarterback that we do end up drafting.
30:34
Speaker 1: I think it'll be good for the whole team. Let's
30:36
Speaker 1: talk about your new role here as well, or what
30:38
Speaker 1: the role is going to look like. Obviously Frank Wright
30:40
Speaker 1: takes over. He's dead coach. We have a new DC
30:43
Speaker 1: into Giro of Vero. Your first couple of years, a
30:46
Speaker 1: little closer to the line of scrimmage. You're gonna call
30:48
Speaker 1: it outside backer, but you're up there in the box
30:50
Speaker 1: a lot last year, maybe a little bit more playing
30:53
Speaker 1: on the back end. Do we know what the role
30:55
Speaker 1: is going to look like now in this system? Yeah,
30:58
Speaker 1: this is the MBA a little bit close's to a
30:59
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage again, kind of how it was you
31:01
Speaker 1: know on previous years. Do you like that? Yeah, I'm
31:03
Speaker 1: super excited about it. Always I'll be able to be
31:06
Speaker 1: around the ball more so that's really exciting. Um. You know,
31:10
Speaker 1: talking to a Vero and UH coach Cooley, we have
31:12
Speaker 1: plans and you know, I'm excited for kind of what
31:15
Speaker 1: they had me doing a little bit. Coach Cooley, Jonathan Cooley,
31:17
Speaker 1: who is the defensive back, one of the defensive back
31:19
Speaker 1: coaches here in LA and now with you in UH
31:23
Speaker 1: in Carolina. What about just overall, I mean, Frank Reich
31:26
Speaker 1: and all these other former head coaches. I know you
31:28
Speaker 1: really can't talk ball much yet, but what is the
31:30
Speaker 1: vibe with this new staff. Yeah, just the conversation that
31:34
Speaker 1: I've had with Brake Um. You know, I was able
31:37
Speaker 1: to talk to him after he was hired, But I
31:39
Speaker 1: mean it seems like a player's coach as something I'm
31:41
Speaker 1: excited about. Also, just asking guys who he's coached before,
31:45
Speaker 1: so as coach coach before, likes to find Gil Moore, Um,
31:48
Speaker 1: you know Kenny Moore, Moiley Cox, guys that you coached
31:50
Speaker 1: and Indy and you know they say the same thing
31:52
Speaker 1: as a player's coach. You know, you know, great guy
31:54
Speaker 1: to be around, great coach to be around. So I'm
31:56
Speaker 1: excited to work with him. I'm excited for everything we
31:58
Speaker 1: got going on. Excited for a big year contract here too. Yes, go,
32:03
Speaker 1: I'm smaller contract here. Jeremy, Jeremy. It's great to see it.
32:06
Speaker 1: So we're luck to you. Thank you appreciate it. NFL
32:14
Speaker 1: Now is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio.
32:18
Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
32:23
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.