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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of the Inspired Stories podcast
- 0:08where leaders share their experiences so we can learn from
- 0:11their successes and be inspired by how they've overcome
- 0:14adversity. My name is Anthony Kotaspodi and
- 0:17today's guest is Taylor Evans, founder and president of Rust
- 0:20Belt Recruiting. They are a specialized firm that
- 0:24connects manufacturers with top tier talent, providing full
- 0:28service recruitment solutions. They focus on building strong
- 0:31partnerships in the industrial sector.
- 0:34Under Taylor's leadership, the company has celebrated 8 years
- 0:37of growth, placing countless professionals and rewarding
- 0:41manufacturing careers. His path hasn't been without
- 0:44challenges. Taylor candidly shares how
- 0:47changing his relationship with alcohol was a critical factor in
- 0:50his current success, noting that without overcoming this personal
- 0:54battle, his current achievements might not have been possible.
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- 1:43All right, back to our guest today, President of Rust Belt
- 1:46Recruiting, Taylor Evans. Thanks for making the time to
- 1:49Share your story today. Yeah, thanks for having me.
- 1:51I think this is going to be a lot of fun.
- 1:53I've enjoyed getting to know you offline a little bit and, and
- 1:58you know, have this conversation with you today.
- 2:00So thank you for giving me the opportunity.
- 2:02My pleasure, happy to have you here.
- 2:04So Taylor, you started your career in the sports industry,
- 2:08worked with the Cleveland Cavaliers Sports Commissions.
- 2:12What drew you into this field initially, and how do you think
- 2:16that experience really shaped your early career perspectives?
- 2:21Yeah, so, you know, I grew up a rabid sports fan, You know, I
- 2:27mean, I I was a young reader. And even more than being a young
- 2:34reader, I was drawn to numbers. So my parents always saved the
- 2:39sports section of the newspaper for me every day, even if I was
- 2:42out of town for two or three days.
- 2:44I came back and I had to read every page and more importantly,
- 2:47the stats line. My brother used to call me
- 2:48stats. So I had a disproportionate
- 2:52knowledge of like high school football players and how many
- 2:54rushing yards they had and, and all of these things, the way my
- 2:57brain worked. But it grew a love for sports in
- 3:01me. And as I progressed through high
- 3:03school, you know, I wanted to be the next Jerry Maguire, one of
- 3:07the good guys that was going to represent professional athletes.
- 3:12And as I began looking at my different college options, you
- 3:18know, I ultimately landed on Ohio University, which year in
- 3:23and year out is generally ranked as the number one sport
- 3:26management and sports administration program in the
- 3:29country. It is where that degree program
- 3:32was founded. So Ohio University has a
- 3:37disproportionate alumni network in the sports industry relative
- 3:42to the size of the school. I say that's so surprising.
- 3:45I mean, I've been to Ohio University.
- 3:47Great reputation, beautiful campus, kind of out in the
- 3:50middle of nowhere, not the place where you would think like
- 3:53sports management education is born.
- 3:56Yeah, you know, they, they were, they were trying to find a home
- 3:59for it. And around 1960 is when it
- 4:01landed in Athens. And they've continued to grow to
- 4:05this day. So, you know, a few years ago,
- 4:07and I've lost track of the exact number, there were like 30
- 4:10athletic directors who had come from OU.
- 4:12It, it was just a really big number.
- 4:16And it continues to be a first class program.
- 4:20So I went down there and really jumped right in and, and, and
- 4:27got involved. And eventually I realized I
- 4:30don't want to be an agent. And even though we have plenty
- 4:33of time to talk today, it was just, it was about the nature of
- 4:36the work and maybe my core values and, and what I wanted to
- 4:40be and didn't want to be. And I actually then had every
- 4:45intention to work in experiential marketing in
- 4:47Connecticut for an agency that I interned for after my junior
- 4:52year of college. But my senior year, I, I was the
- 4:56president of the sports and Business Association down there,
- 4:59the student organization, and one of my professors encouraged
- 5:03me to come up to Cleveland for a sales training that they were
- 5:07going to do for 15 of our students.
- 5:09He wanted me there as the president of the student
- 5:11organization and everything like that.
- 5:14And as I say it, I fell in love with the bright lights of the
- 5:17NBA and, and embarked on a sales career there.
- 5:23And so, yeah, I started out my career with the Cleveland
- 5:26Cavaliers, got to work with four different properties that they
- 5:31had at the time. Started with the Cavs quickly
- 5:35became the Canton Charge, which was their D League, now G League
- 5:39team and now the Cleveland Charge in the Cleveland
- 5:43Gladiators in the Arena Football League and then the sorry, the
- 5:50Lake Erie monsters, now the the the Cleveland Monsters, which is
- 5:53our AHL hockey team. So you know, I I really got to
- 5:57get immersed into a first by organization, learn really great
- 6:01sales principle, see how marketing and all that is done
- 6:06and so much of that has been transferable through my career.
- 6:09So while the pay, when I look back on it, maybe it wasn't what
- 6:13I, I could live off today, I am it, it was invaluable in terms
- 6:18of the education and the experiences I got in both places
- 6:21down in Athens, in here in Cleveland with with those
- 6:25experiences. What's 1 big skill set that you
- 6:28acquire during your time in the sports industry that you're able
- 6:31to apply today at Rust Belt recruiting?
- 6:34The I, I would say the biggest thing that I apply is just my
- 6:37understanding of sales and marketing, right?
- 6:41They, the cabs really poured a lot of time and resources into
- 6:45training us as sales people. And I was part of the sales
- 6:50center at Ohio University as well.
- 6:53And and just understanding how to build a great brand and how
- 6:56to create value outside the actual product and deliverable
- 7:02that you do. So in the NBA, it's the product
- 7:05on the court. And I was there the year after
- 7:08LeBron left and you know it actually the year after, the
- 7:12year after, right. So he left in O 9 or whatever
- 7:16and then in but everyone's seats had been renewed for the next
- 7:18season. So everyone was still in the
- 7:21stands. It was the year after that and
- 7:23we had an NBA lockout that started on day 10 of my job with
- 7:26the Cavaliers. And so we were actually selling
- 7:30people on the the idea of if and when the NBA was going to come
- 7:33back in this post LeBron era. Learned a lot, you know, Learned
- 7:38a ton. But learned a lot about taking
- 7:42rejection I would assume. Yeah, all kinds of things.
- 7:46But you know, the biggest thing you learn is how you know, you
- 7:49know, try to create a great experience, a great brand and
- 7:54control what you can control. I think that was the biggest
- 7:57thing, you know, the you can always put a, a fun and
- 8:00entertaining product out there in terms of the in game
- 8:04experience. I was down there with my 7 year
- 8:06old a few weeks ago and it's incredible.
- 8:08You know, it's truly like a with no disrespect intended, it's a 2
- 8:121/2 hour circus, which and and they play basketball in between,
- 8:18you know, really good basketball, you know, but
- 8:20basketball nonetheless. There's so many like programs
- 8:23and stuff. It is it is live better than the
- 8:26term circus. It is live theater before your
- 8:30eyes and it's really cool to watch.
- 8:31So learned a time, great respect for what Dan Gilbert and the
- 8:35team have built here in Cleveland and really grateful to
- 8:40have worked for a best in class organization, you know, despite
- 8:44this short time that I was there.
- 8:46So you move from sports to manufacturing and then into
- 8:51recruiting, kind of help us connect the dots here.
- 8:54Yeah, so once I left the Cavaliers, I went to the
- 8:58Cleveland Sports Commission and help them operate an event
- 9:01called the Continental Cup, which was a global sporting
- 9:04event where we would bring youth athletes to Cleveland to play,
- 9:09you know, they would be teams across four different sports.
- 9:12And it was kind of like a mini Olympics.
- 9:14It was born out of when Cleveland hosted the Children's
- 9:16Games many years before that. And that was a short stint for
- 9:20me. And then I I didn't foresee
- 9:22myself being in Cleveland long term.
- 9:24I made the move to Austin, TX to be the account manager director
- 9:31of their sports Commission and be out there getting on and
- 9:34bringing events to Austin. But right before I left I met my
- 9:38now wife and we dated a distance for two years.
- 9:41So the heartstrings brought me home and to be honest with you,
- 9:44like as much as Austin is a world class city and I really
- 9:49enjoyed my two years there. Even my Co workers, given that
- 9:52we were working in the convention and visitors Bureau,
- 9:54they would tease me and say, you know, Taylor, like you often
- 9:58talk more about Cleveland to our prospects than you do about
- 10:02Austin. And you know, I really this,
- 10:05this city in this region resonates with me.
- 10:08So I, you know, I was grateful to come back and and to be here
- 10:14now. And, you know, I came back
- 10:16without a job on purpose, was very comfortable with that.
- 10:19Had, you know, some money socked away to kind of come back.
- 10:23And I just wanted to go through some interview processes and
- 10:25find the right opportunity. But I landed with a manufacturer
- 10:29and, and that wasn't in the plans per SE, but I was ready to
- 10:33venture outside of sports and, and, and it exposed me to this
- 10:39world of manufacturing, which I had, you know, no understanding
- 10:42of and, you know, got to see that up close, but ultimately
- 10:46wanted to work a little bit closer to my house and stumbled
- 10:50my way into recruiting, right. I, I had no like clear, no
- 10:54clarity coming out of that sports career, what was going to
- 10:57be next. So I took an opportunity in
- 10:59recruiting and did that for about a year and a half.
- 11:04And then on a Thursday night in October of 2017, we found out my
- 11:09wife was pregnant. She was a single mom before I
- 11:14met her, which is, you know, a part of why probably she didn't
- 11:18follow me down to Austin. You know, had a, a young boy who
- 11:22is now a 14 year old 8th grader and, and we found out our first
- 11:28together, second overall was being born.
- 11:32And I quit my job the next day like every normal person does.
- 11:36And, and that I'm going to start a business.
- 11:41And it's to Jenna's credit, only to Jenna's credit that I would
- 11:45have had the, the gumption to do that.
- 11:48We're both from entrepreneurial families.
- 11:51And so, you know, we, we went out and we did it.
- 11:56I gave my two weeks, didn't really have a business plan at
- 11:58that point. I was either going to start a
- 12:01coffee shop or a recruiting business.
- 12:04You didn't even know what the business was before you quit.
- 12:06No, I just knew I needed to go, you know, and so so yeah, you
- 12:14know, and then I was like, OK, I'm going to own AI had I had
- 12:16long had the idea of a coffee. It wasn't totally impulsive that
- 12:20I well, it was totally impulsive that I quit on the timeline that
- 12:24I did. But I had always had thoughts in
- 12:26an entrepreneurial spirit. So it aligned really well with
- 12:29me. But you know, a coffee shop, you
- 12:33know, can cost 50 to 100 grand to stand it up if you're really
- 12:38going to build it out and get all the equipment and stuff like
- 12:41that. And then I always say that's a
- 12:42lot of three and four dollar cups to, to recoup your
- 12:46investment and to make any type of money.
- 12:48And whereas a, you know, a recruiting business in its
- 12:51simplest form can be started with a laptop and a cell phone,
- 12:55one of which I had, I actually had to ask a family member like,
- 13:00Hey, can I have a used laptop from your business?
- 13:02Like I don't have 1 yet. I'm not making money.
- 13:05Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to stop and dig into this
- 13:09thought process here a little bit more.
- 13:11So you'd had ideas, you know, floating through your head.
- 13:14Coffee shop, maybe recruiting business at some point.
- 13:16I know I want to own my own business, but why quit your job
- 13:21the day after you find out that your wife is pregnant without
- 13:26knowing even what you're going to do next?
- 13:29Were things just that bad where you were working at the time?
- 13:32No, I, I wouldn't say that, you know, I, I was, I was
- 13:35dissatisfied, but to be honest, I think at the, in that season
- 13:40of my life, there would have been a general dissatisfaction
- 13:44with wherever I was working. I, I, I had an itch.
- 13:48I was never really good. And to this day I'm not good at
- 13:51just saying this is all I do at Rust Belt or this is all like, I
- 13:55was primarily in sales roles. I was not a good fit to just sit
- 13:58there all day and sell or sit there all day and recruit or sit
- 14:01there all day and whatever it was.
- 14:03I liked the variety, you know, the, the, the, the change.
- 14:09I'm your, I'm your classic late 80s, early 90s ADDADHD kid.
- 14:15But I, I really have it, you know, like it's, it's very much
- 14:19there. So I need that variety in that
- 14:23sense. And so I mean, the, the general
- 14:30talk track between Jenna and I was we have 7-8 months.
- 14:37I forget how much lead time we had until this baby is here.
- 14:41Let's go, you know, like let's like, let's, let's build this
- 14:44one. She was doing great at the time
- 14:46in her job. She was able to provide the
- 14:49financial foundation for me to go and launch my business and we
- 14:54did. And what a ride it's done.
- 14:57So I understand right around the same time that there were some
- 15:00other big life events, big life challenges going on.
- 15:04Can you talk about that, Taylor? Yeah.
- 15:06So, I mean, you know, that's the exact same window where my
- 15:10relationship with alcohol was beginning to spiral.
- 15:14And, you know, I really didn't recognize it despite some family
- 15:19history in that area. So, you know, we were pretty
- 15:23freshly married, one on the way and and all of a sudden, one
- 15:31thing I think that took me a minute to shake as an
- 15:34entrepreneur. Not too long, but it's just like
- 15:37this is no longer like a nine to five.
- 15:39Like I remember I used to be like, OK, well, it's 4:30 or
- 15:425:00 going to close the laptop and that's a day.
- 15:45It's like, dude, you haven't even made a dollar yet.
- 15:47Like you need to, you need to be heads down really getting after
- 15:51it until at least the flywheel starts.
- 15:53And so, but one of the things inhibiting me there was my
- 15:58relationship with alcohol. And so in late January 2018, you
- 16:05know, I, I stopped drinking, I, I had my last drink and I, you
- 16:14know, started to sober up, dry out, whatever you want to call
- 16:18it, and, and, and started to participate in some programs
- 16:23that were designed for that. And that was a really important
- 16:29season for me, you know, because when you stop drinking, when it,
- 16:33when it consumes you that much. And, you know, for me, like, it
- 16:36wasn't like I needed, like, you know, I've, I've encountered
- 16:39people in my journey who are like, I needed like a pint of
- 16:42whiskey to get out of bed. It wasn't that, but I mean, it
- 16:45was starting to creep up in my days.
- 16:47All of a sudden you're working from home, your wife's not
- 16:50there, you're bored, you open the fridge.
- 16:52Oh, there's a drink and I'm going to have it.
- 16:54So, you know, one of my dear friends and I, you know, laugh
- 16:57about how I shared with him at some point, I was like having
- 17:01like a Turkey sandwich with red wine, like not normal behavior
- 17:05at lunchtime, right? And, and he'll say that to me
- 17:08sometimes, right? Just, you know, it's not funny,
- 17:11but it's where I was at in the journey.
- 17:13And, and, and so eventually that had to change.
- 17:19And I, you know, once I stopped drinking you, you start to go
- 17:25through a day in a week, in a month.
- 17:26And my first month was a journey, right?
- 17:28I, I had so many opportunities to, you know, quit or give up or
- 17:34whatever, But eventually you build that momentum.
- 17:37And you know, fortunately, I, I said to someone over lunch
- 17:41today, we were talking about this.
- 17:42I said, if I don't screw it up, you know, in late January of,
- 17:47you know, next month, it'll be, it'll be 8 years, which is just
- 17:51incredible. And you know, I always say I got
- 17:53here as fast as I could, right? And you know, I got to 8 years
- 17:57as fast as I could, but it really is a one day at a time
- 18:00program. I remember talking to a family
- 18:02member that first day, like, I don't know how I'm going to be
- 18:05able to not drink for the rest of my life.
- 18:08And they said to me, don't worry about that, just just do it for
- 18:13today. Just get through today, right?
- 18:15And now it's not even a thought in my mind.
- 18:18So that was a huge season for me.
- 18:21Huge season. What was the trigger that had
- 18:25you say on that first day, I'm not going to have a drink today?
- 18:29Yeah, I just, you know, I, I had some drama on the home front and
- 18:35I, I just said I, I can't do this anymore.
- 18:40You know, like this is I, I remember saying to my when,
- 18:46when, when that breakthrough happened, I, I looked at my wife
- 18:52that night and just said the war is over, which I had heard from
- 18:55a Christian song that I listened to.
- 18:57But what that meant to me was I'm done.
- 19:01I can't, I can't win this battle with alcohol.
- 19:04And the blessing of it all was that I would, you know, I'm 37
- 19:08now. I was 29 at the time.
- 19:12And I didn't really start drinking until, I don't know,
- 19:16like maybe like second-half of my senior year of high school
- 19:20or, you know, that summer going into college, as if that's like
- 19:23normal behavior. But I'm, I'm just saying like,
- 19:26you know, I've again encountered people who were like started
- 19:28drinking at like 12 or 13, Like it was nothing like that.
- 19:34Or well, that's not far off. But anyway, you know, it, it
- 19:37amounted to a decade of my life. And as I look back and you know,
- 19:41again, I still got to get to 8 years and and then nine and then
- 19:4410. But time goes quickly and my
- 19:49life has been just infinitely different.
- 19:52The way that, the, the way that, that has changed the trajectory
- 19:57of my life. I cannot.
- 20:00I cannot even fathom. That this would have been my
- 20:04life if, if I'm being honest with you, there was a part of me
- 20:08the way my brain had become so sick with alcohol.
- 20:14I, I can't even say it out loud, but I, I, there was a part of me
- 20:18that almost thought I wasn't going to live past 40 because of
- 20:21my relationship with alcohol. I also believed that I had CTE
- 20:27from my football career, from my high school football career,
- 20:30rather than just acknowledging that I was consistently
- 20:33hungover. Like, that's the insanity of it
- 20:37all. It's like, rather than like
- 20:39seeking to change the behavior, I was coming up with all kinds
- 20:43of rationalization that in hindsight is basically
- 20:49borderline insanity. But again, I hadn't acknowledged
- 20:53it. And you've got to come to your
- 20:54own point to realize it. You know, I've, I've had the
- 20:58chance to talk with people who have a really troubled
- 21:01relationship with the alcohol. And until the individual accepts
- 21:04that it is their time to change, nothing will change.
- 21:09So there was that first day that you decided to stop drinking.
- 21:13There was some, you know, drama that had taken place at home.
- 21:15That's obviously a big step, huge milestone.
- 21:20As you look back, I'm curious, between now and then, what were
- 21:24some of the other sobriety milestones for you?
- 21:27You know, was it a mental breakthrough to get to a week or
- 21:31a month? Was there some sort of clarity
- 21:35that came at six months? Yeah, yeah.
- 21:38So you know that what what motivated me that first week,
- 21:43that first month. So the first weekend that I
- 21:48stopped drinking, I knew in mid January I was like, so I grew up
- 21:55in Southeast PA hour from Philadelphia and January of
- 22:012018, the Eagles were on a playoff run that resulted in the
- 22:07Eagles beating the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl when
- 22:11Nick Foles led him to it. And so I was like, I'm going to
- 22:14get through this Super Bowl run and then I'm going to go, you
- 22:18know, check out a recovery program as if like, OK, we got
- 22:25to get through this first, right?
- 22:26Because that's normal. But you know, I, I went through
- 22:32that program and, or I'm sorry, it, it, it got to the weekend
- 22:37before and I was like, it has to stop.
- 22:40So the following weekend I went to the Waste Management Open in
- 22:46Phoenix, AZ. If you know, are you familiar
- 22:48with that event? By name, but that's it.
- 22:51OK, so you know, the Waste Management Open happens every
- 22:58year in Phoenix and it is the anti golf tournament.
- 23:03You know, might remind you almost of like a live golf
- 23:06tournament. It is the first tournament of
- 23:08the year. People go, they dress up in
- 23:10costumes, they are loud, they are drinking like crazy.
- 23:14It is like again, the anti like golf clap etiquette.
- 23:17It is it it's it's just the anomaly tournament and it is it
- 23:22is packed, absolutely packed. So, you know, we went for my
- 23:27brother in law's bachelor party and I spent my first weekend at
- 23:32a bachelor party saying I'm not going to do this.
- 23:35And the only way I really got myself through, there's a,
- 23:37there's a term in the recovery community called the pink cloud.
- 23:40Like you're like, Nope, I'm, I'm doing great, I'm on it.
- 23:43But you know, I flew out to that tournament and, and I said, you
- 23:49know, it's taken me 5 days to get to 5 days.
- 23:52Do I want to use the next 5 days to get to 10 days or do I want
- 23:55to use the next 5 days to get back to five days?
- 23:58You know, and then it was 10 days and I would say, you know,
- 24:01do I want to use the next 10 days to get to 20 days or do I
- 24:04want to use this to get back to 20 days or to 10 days?
- 24:07And so it just, I kept compounding that for a little
- 24:10while. I literally, that was my mantra
- 24:12to myself and, and just the building upon it.
- 24:18You know, the weekend after that, I went to an open bar
- 24:20event for the Cleveland Legal Society.
- 24:24The weekend after that we hosted a forty person party at our
- 24:29house for that same brother in law's engagement.
- 24:34You had lots of temptation in. Front it was a grinder of a
- 24:36month. Yeah.
- 24:37But again, it's just saying like, OK, today's day 21.
- 24:40Do you want to get to day? Do you want the next 21 days to
- 24:42get you to day 42 or back to day 21?
- 24:45You know, how do you want to use your next 21 days?
- 24:48And eventually I stopped counting, but I went through
- 24:52that and there were so many cool landmarks, you know, I mean.
- 24:57Yeah. It's funny, one time we were
- 25:01down in, we, we went down South for spring break that year, like
- 25:06the like the Carolinas and, and we drove in, we were driving
- 25:09back and I was working with a counselor at the time and I
- 25:12called him and I was like, Hey, I'm having the weird or maybe I
- 25:16text him, but I was like, I'm having the weirdest thing
- 25:18happen. I was like my like deodorant
- 25:22smells like insanely vibrant today.
- 25:24Like I my sense of smell is through the roof today.
- 25:28What is going on? He goes, your brain is actually
- 25:31redeveloping neural pathways and like things are happening.
- 25:35It's the same deodorant that I wore every day, year over year,
- 25:38whatever I. Didn't know this was a thing.
- 25:40Yeah, and it was like your brain is healing itself in a lot of
- 25:43ways. You know, I'm still a wild man.
- 25:47You know, I I would say my ability, though, to regulate
- 25:50emotionally has improved significantly.
- 25:55And and and that might be scary if you know me now because I'm
- 25:58again, still a wild man. But you know, I had to learn a
- 26:02lot. And to be honest with you, the
- 26:06biggest breakthrough or, well, I mean, you know, to be fully and
- 26:10holy present for my first daughter's birth and, and all of
- 26:14them thereafter, and to know that they've never lived a day
- 26:17in this world where I've had a drink is a really cool thing to
- 26:21me. And, you know, four days after
- 26:25I, my daughter was born, we, I received a call from and now a
- 26:33former client. But basically it was for, for
- 26:37where we were and who we were and what we were, the contract
- 26:40of a lifetime. And it blew the doors open.
- 26:42And for me, that's a God moment where, you know, I was able to,
- 26:47I, I, I, I did the right things. We trusted, we had faith that
- 26:54going out on our own was going to provide.
- 26:58And literally my first day back to work, I get a life changing
- 27:02call with an opportunity. And so that is a higher power
- 27:07moment. That is a God moment.
- 27:09And it changed the trajectory of our lives and has allowed me to
- 27:14live in a way that I could have never imagined, you know, and,
- 27:20and, and experience things that I could have never done before.
- 27:25And as I from 40 now, I'm thinking about, you know, that
- 27:29life past 40 that I maybe one point didn't think was possible.
- 27:34That's fine. I appreciate you sharing all
- 27:36that and I want to get back to this life changing call.
- 27:38Before that, say a little bit more about the support system
- 27:42that you had going through those early days of sobriety.
- 27:45Sounds like your wife's a big part of this for sure.
- 27:47Yeah, you know, I was my my wife for sure.
- 27:50I mean, she, you know, was there with me and, you know, there's a
- 27:54cabinet right here over my shoulder and, you know, every
- 27:58year she, she will write me a note just looking back on the
- 28:04year. And those notes mean the world
- 28:06to me now. You know, they're, they're,
- 28:08they're hanging in there. At least the first couple years.
- 28:12You know, my family rallied around me.
- 28:14I, you know, they, they say you might lose some friends.
- 28:17I, I didn't, if anything, I just made new ones.
- 28:21My, my community knew probably, maybe even more than me, that
- 28:26this change was for the better. And so, you know, whether it's
- 28:31going to recovery meetings and, and the people that would, you
- 28:37know, be alongside of me there learning the confidence to, to,
- 28:42to share my feelings or, or the feelings that I was struggling
- 28:45with, You know, because a relationship with alcohol isn't
- 28:48just rooted in, you know, a, a, a love for the alcohol itself.
- 28:54It's often something deeper. And so beginning to explore
- 28:58those feelings and figure out what it was that was really
- 29:03causing that, that hurt is really important.
- 29:07And I'm so grateful that I had just an incredible community,
- 29:14you know, around me. And so out of respect to their
- 29:19privacy, I, I won't name names, but the people who have
- 29:23supported me know who they are and I am forever indebted to
- 29:28them. You know, and even though I'm
- 29:30not as active in the recovery community as I was before, it
- 29:36was that I am one call away for all of those people to drop
- 29:40anything that they need because I am indebted to them, frankly,
- 29:45with my life. What's behind the name Rust Belt
- 29:49Recruiting? So, you know, in those early
- 29:53days, I was sitting, I always tell the story sitting at my
- 29:56dining room table. It was a glass surface.
- 29:58I can, it's almost visceral. I can still feel it.
- 30:01And you know, I for the first like 2 weeks or so, I was going
- 30:06to be the Evans Group of Ohio, which definitely sounds more
- 30:10like a insurance agency. The Evans Group was taken and
- 30:16one day that name just popped out of my head and I wrote it
- 30:19down and I, I always say I kept looking over at it and I was
- 30:22like, I really like that, you know?
- 30:24And, and eventually I landed on it and it was like 2 days before
- 30:30Thanksgiving and I was so excited to go to Thanksgiving
- 30:35with a good company name. I had just signed a first client
- 30:38doing a first search just so I could show up to Thanksgiving
- 30:41and be like, Hey, I, you know, I actually am doing a thing.
- 30:47Anyway, the, the name Rust Belt recruiting.
- 30:49Look, you know, I've, I've, I, we've embraced the name, our,
- 30:55our clients love it. It reflects, you know, this, the
- 30:59obviously the past of our region.
- 31:01And to be honest, there's times where I struggle with a name,
- 31:03like does it hold on to a, to a past moniker?
- 31:06But we hear so many clients tell us, tells us exactly who you
- 31:09are, what you work with. And frankly, there's a lot of
- 31:12people in North East Ohio and the surrounding region who are
- 31:15proud to be the Rust Belt. It's like, we're cool.
- 31:18We we have an industrial heritage.
- 31:20And you know, we always say we're putting a new shine on
- 31:23this region and bringing it back.
- 31:26But the name is meant to represent the industrial
- 31:30heritage. No negativity of course,
- 31:33intended. It's all about like, hey, we, we
- 31:37are proud of the history of this region and want to be part of
- 31:41its renaissance as well. And So what do you guys do?
- 31:45Yeah. So we're a manufacturing
- 31:48recruiting company. We support manufacturers with
- 31:52their talent needs. Anything that really touches the
- 31:56manufacturing process, we can support that role as well as
- 32:01sales role. So whether it's a, a skilled
- 32:03worker on the production floor or an engineer or a management
- 32:08role in the office or also on the floor, if it touches the
- 32:13manufacturing process, we, we, we are probably a fit to help
- 32:18with it. We do all permanent placement
- 32:20recruiting. We're also not a high volume
- 32:24shop where we've got, you know, 1000 openings, right?
- 32:28We, you know, average 4050 rolls at any given time that we're
- 32:35working on. So we're a small but mighty
- 32:38team, but very active and vocal advocates for manufacturing in
- 32:42the region. And you know, tell us the region
- 32:46extends out to Pittsburgh and up to Detroit and Akron, Canton in
- 32:49Youngstown, in Toledo. So we we really cover a lot of
- 32:53these communities in a meaningful way.
- 32:57So is this all direct placement? Then you're not doing any temp
- 33:01or temp to hire. No all permit.
- 33:05All right. And so I want to come back to,
- 33:08well, actually before we get to that life changing call, how did
- 33:11you get that first client right before Thanksgiving?
- 33:13Yeah, I, I think it was an introduction by a friend, Jason
- 33:18Geyer, who I continue to work with to this day and in, in a
- 33:23different capacity and he's been a great resource and, you know,
- 33:29got, got introduced to this individual and the rest was
- 33:34history. Got that, Got that first client
- 33:37under the belt. That feels good, right?
- 33:39That's a concept. You've got a little momentum
- 33:41there. That's a big, big deal.
- 33:43For no other reason than you can show up to Thanksgiving dinner,
- 33:45you know, and say, hey, I, I've got a client.
- 33:49Yeah. And then you're talking about
- 33:52what was this just a few days after your daughter was born
- 33:56that you get this life changing call.
- 33:59And I want to hear about that. And I, and I'm going to make
- 34:02some assumptions here and I'd be curious to see if I'm right or
- 34:06wrong because a lot of people, business owners, entrepreneurs,
- 34:10they hear these stories and they're like, Oh yeah, that's
- 34:13what I need for my business or my sales career, whatever it is.
- 34:16I just need that down, that one like life changing client.
- 34:21And I get the sense when I hear some people, not everybody, some
- 34:23people talk about that, that it's like, oh, it's just going
- 34:26to come to them. It's just one of those like
- 34:28overnight kind of success things that like fall into their lap
- 34:33almost every story I've been a part of or heard of.
- 34:37There is a lot of groundwork that leads up to that overnight
- 34:41success. Tell us how it unfolded for you.
- 34:45Yeah. So it actually ties in really
- 34:50well with, again, that relationship change with
- 34:53alcohol, you know, So we had just signed this company as a
- 34:56client almost concurrently, maybe a week's difference.
- 35:02And it was only my second or third client.
- 35:05And so I jumped in and started filling welding jobs and, you
- 35:13know, different manufacturing production roles.
- 35:15And over the next, you know, call it 5-6 months, I had
- 35:22probably only filled 5 or 6 roles, which isn't bad, but you
- 35:26know, it wasn't a, it wasn't a crazy number, but you know, we
- 35:32were giving that we, me, we're giving them really great
- 35:36attention and really working hard.
- 35:38And in the summer of 18, during the first Trump administration,
- 35:45they were rolling out a lot of steel tariffs and everything
- 35:48like that. And our client was bringing in a
- 35:51tremendous number of orders and because of rising cost of their
- 35:58goods, they were, they were letting people lock in their
- 36:00pricing and everything like that.
- 36:02And they decided to build a third shift.
- 36:06And I think it would, it ended up being 86 openings.
- 36:10And when Dave called me, he's like, hey, we need your agency
- 36:15to fill all of these roles. And you know, for me at the
- 36:20time, you know, in my head, and I'm sure Dave knew this, I'm
- 36:25like, well, you have the whole agency on the phone.
- 36:28So but it was the kicking off point to actually going and
- 36:33making a hire and having someone help me and then another and
- 36:36then another. And, you know, it continued to
- 36:38continue to evolve from there. And so you start making your
- 36:42first hires because of this large job.
- 36:45And then how did you keep the momentum going?
- 36:48Yeah, you know, it was, it was such a great project for us and
- 36:52allowed us to like really focus on growing things.
- 36:56So, you know, it it, it really took time to figure out, you
- 37:00know, who was doing what and how we were doing it kind of like
- 37:04the preparation that came forward, just impulsively
- 37:09leaving my job and, and launching my own business.
- 37:12It took time to figure out everyone's roles and how we were
- 37:16going to be structured and how things were going to get done.
- 37:19And, you know, at times it feels like that's still true to this
- 37:22day. Like, you know, businesses are
- 37:24consistently looking inward and saying, how are we doing things?
- 37:27Are we doing things the best way possible?
- 37:30Are we are we a truly productive team?
- 37:32And and so, you know, it, it has continued to this day to be an
- 37:38evolution, But we, we had to, you know, evaluate team members
- 37:44and quickly make some hires and try to get everyone into some
- 37:48roles and grateful for that team.
- 37:49That was, you know, the the the 1st chapter of Rust Bell or the
- 37:54second if I'm the first. I've received some awards, the
- 37:58Distinguished Marketing and Sales Award from the sales and
- 38:01marketing executives of Cleveland.
- 38:05Why? Why was this award bestowed upon
- 38:07you? What?
- 38:07What were the credentials that you brought forward?
- 38:13Without using self deprecating humor.
- 38:17You know, I, I look, I'm a very engaged guy in the community.
- 38:21I'm out there. I'm a, I'm proud to be a
- 38:24connector. That's a big trait of mine is I
- 38:28am always, when I am meeting with people, looking for ways to
- 38:32introduce them to, you know, another person that might be
- 38:36worth being in their network, a business opportunity, whatever
- 38:39it is. And as it relates to Rust Belt,
- 38:42I think we built a really good brand and a good business that
- 38:45we can be proud of and, you know, aims to deliver consistent
- 38:51work products. So all of those things have been
- 38:54good on our end. Yeah.
- 38:57You know, again, really appreciated that award.
- 39:02And you know, a couple more that have followed over the course of
- 39:05my career maybe haven't done as good of a job as keeping them up
- 39:10there. But any award I've received is a
- 39:14humbling 1 for me. Where do you see the future of
- 39:17Rust Belt recruiting going? What's on the horizon?
- 39:20Yeah, you know, for right now, for in this season, especially
- 39:24with the turbulence in the labor market the last few years and
- 39:27and watching what I'm seeing with other agencies go through,
- 39:32it's all about stability. Keep turning out good,
- 39:35consistent work and let that good consistent work lead to
- 39:38more good and consistent clients.
- 39:40So we really want to be, you know, steady, reliable,
- 39:45consistent and and and above all else a great place to work so
- 39:51that our team mates can deliver great work product for their
- 39:56clients and and candidates. You know, Taylor, I understand
- 40:01from our previous conversations that you take a lot of
- 40:03satisfaction from being able to place people into meaningful
- 40:08work, right? I mean, you're making their
- 40:12lives better, right? The ability to provide for
- 40:15themselves and their families. You're helping your client out
- 40:18the company fill a role so that they can produce as you think
- 40:23back over your, you know, 8 year.
- 40:27Career of doing this for yourself at Rust Belt
- 40:29recruiting? Is there a particular story that
- 40:32comes to mind, an example of somebody that you helped to
- 40:36place in a big difference that it made?
- 40:40There are, yeah. You know, and they aren't just
- 40:45testaments to me, you know, the first one that comes into mind
- 40:50was we didn't know this at the time.
- 40:54We, we, we, we've sought to do things behind the scenes that
- 40:59maybe we have no intention of seeing the light of day.
- 41:04They're just an opportunity to, you know, do good.
- 41:08We've, we've helped people who are, you know, not in a home at
- 41:14this point, right, Who managed to connect with us.
- 41:17We, we had a candidate once who was living out of their car
- 41:24with, with their family in it like a, a minivan and a, with a
- 41:30couple children. And you know, this job was a way
- 41:35for them to get back into a home or yeah, get back into a home.
- 41:43And there was a two week lag between them getting their jobs.
- 41:46So, you know, we were able to put them up in housing for that
- 41:53short period of time. And you know, if anything, it
- 41:56was humbling. It, it was, it was a really
- 41:59healthy dose of perspective to see, you know, we, we put them
- 42:04up in a, a motel and it might have had like 2 beds and a sofa
- 42:08bed. And you know, we, we were able
- 42:11to stop by with a bunch of bags of grocery to stock the fridge
- 42:16and and feed the family. And again, we looked at it like,
- 42:20hey, this placement fee that we made was of 0 consequence if we
- 42:26can just reinvest it into them. And, but what was humbling about
- 42:31it was to see the joy within this family for a space that
- 42:36might be just one room in, in, in a home, you know, in a
- 42:40traditional home that we may have.
- 42:43And, and, and they were overjoyed.
- 42:46And it was just a perspective. It, it, it did more for me than
- 42:51I think we did for them. And, and again, we have other
- 42:55examples of that. And you know, I, I don't, I'm
- 42:58sharing it publicly because we're talking, but like, we
- 43:01don't, we don't do those stories for PR press or anything like
- 43:04that. We do those because we get to,
- 43:06and that's one of the greatest gifts of this role.
- 43:11We want the ability to pour more into people.
- 43:15We've always seemed to be charitable and supporters of
- 43:19philanthropic efforts in the area.
- 43:22The current one that we are big supporters of is an organization
- 43:26called One Step Ahead Ohio, which is rooted IN22 areas.
- 43:33They have a skilled labour foundation.
- 43:34So shocker, we were drawn to them.
- 43:38But they also have another area that which is just positive acts
- 43:41of kindness. And so we have supported them
- 43:43financially and through our, you know, earlier this year, I was
- 43:47actually asked to be on their board and, you know, continue to
- 43:52pour in our efforts there. So, you know, wherever we can
- 43:55pour into the community and be generous in spirit or time or
- 44:01resources or whatever it really is life giving to us and to our
- 44:05team. So grateful to have the
- 44:07opportunity to, you know, do something like the example I
- 44:11just shared or, or even just lend our time, you know, even
- 44:15just lend our time to someone in need, right?
- 44:17The greatest gift you can give people is your time.
- 44:20So we we do what we can with what we've got.
- 44:24I love that. Shifting gears a little bit,
- 44:28let's say there's somebody listening who is interested in
- 44:31starting their own specialized agency.
- 44:35What advice might you have for them?
- 44:37How to stand out? How to make an impact?
- 44:40Yeah, yeah. I mean, I would say, you know,
- 44:44if you're looking to start your own specialized recruiting
- 44:46agency or specialized agency, regardless of your line of work,
- 44:52specialization is good. It allows you to be laser
- 44:55focused on who and what you are serving and and and more
- 44:59consistently connect. It may feel at times like it
- 45:02will take you longer to build that client base or that
- 45:07flywheel or whatever, but in reality, you will be so much
- 45:11stronger and more valuable to your clients as a resource over
- 45:17time by connecting with them and, you know, really
- 45:23understanding who it is that they are and what it is that
- 45:26they do. And so our team is, you know,
- 45:29able to do that. They are able to consistently
- 45:32take homework or even look at work where we're like, hey, we
- 45:35can't deliver on this. We, we don't have, we, we, this
- 45:39role or this need is not something that we've been able
- 45:44to be successful on. And rather than, you know,
- 45:46blindly banging around on a search that we can't fill, we
- 45:51can get out ahead of it and actually be more trusted by our
- 45:55clients. But again, to be specialized
- 45:58takes time. But it it is worth it.
- 46:00It just takes a consistent drum beat and focus.
- 46:07What's been the most successful growth strategy for you guys,
- 46:09Taylor? The most successful growth
- 46:14strategy for us has been to build relationships within our
- 46:18community. You know, it's, it's, you know,
- 46:22we, we've always maintained a good digital footprint.
- 46:24We've had different people over the years in a business
- 46:26development role, myself included.
- 46:28But the best way, the, the, the, the best thing that you can give
- 46:33is a referral. And we are so grateful for those
- 46:37and they have gone such a long way for us.
- 46:40But yeah, it's, it's to consistently be out there and be
- 46:43in, in the community, whatever your community is and looking to
- 46:47help and support those around you and to give generously.
- 46:52Like, you know, the book the Go Giver is such a great strategy
- 46:57for developing adding value to others versus adding value to
- 47:03yourself if others haven't read that book.
- 47:06It's a transformational read and it is it, it should, honestly,
- 47:12it should be mandatory reading for every, I don't know, reading
- 47:16level. It's at 617, you know, I mean,
- 47:18you can like at a young age, a young adult should be reading
- 47:22that book. Yeah, that one hasn't come
- 47:25across my radar yet. I recently interviewed.
- 47:28I'm going to send you a copy after this.
- 47:30That's that's the spirit of the go giver.
- 47:31So I will make a note to send you a copy and then if you enjoy
- 47:35it, you send someone a copy and I love that.
- 47:39Yeah, I look forward to it, and I think you just summed up the
- 47:41spirit of it, so I'm looking forward to reading more about
- 47:44it. What's your superpower?
- 47:50It's to be a connector. It's like I've I've harnessed
- 47:55the gift that is my overactive brain, right?
- 47:58Like I, that ADDADHD is a gift. It, it needs to be viewed as
- 48:07such because it is, it's, it's, it's not a disability, it's not
- 48:11a weakness. It is a superpower.
- 48:13And so my ability to sometimes you see me looking around, you
- 48:18know, all that it, it can be a little challenging to converse
- 48:20with me, but I'm, that's because I'm thinking I am my, my mind is
- 48:24constantly going. And so again, it is to be a
- 48:28connector to others. And to be honest with you, the
- 48:31most rewarding thing is I don't necessarily like, you know, in
- 48:38business, maybe your business does these, Anthony, or you've
- 48:42been approached with these. You know, people will come to me
- 48:46and say, hey, let's set up a formal referral program, right?
- 48:50Where I don't usually take the bait on those.
- 48:53I think the spirit of introductions and connections is
- 48:56make your community strong, get people together, really allow
- 49:01them to link arms and, and be better.
- 49:04And even in the meeting I was in this morning in a little
- 49:07networking group on that, one of the people said, you know, hey,
- 49:11thanks to an introduction that Taylor made to this
- 49:14organization, I'm going to be doing a, a three-part series for
- 49:19this organization. And anyone that can attend, I, I
- 49:22would appreciate them being there.
- 49:23And, and it's a business opportunity for that person.
- 49:27And I am so happy for them. You know, that, that what a 30
- 49:33second, one minute, 2 minute e-mail created an opportunity
- 49:37like that, that is so life giving.
- 49:40And I know if I do enough of those good acts for others, the
- 49:45universe will come back around. You know, like in The Alchemist,
- 49:48they say the universe will conspire.
- 49:50I say that all the time. The universe will conspire to
- 49:53help me. And so I love to connect people
- 49:56freely. It is a it is something I really
- 50:00enjoy doing, being a connector. That's great.
- 50:03You know, as you talk about your ADD, your ADHD and how it's a
- 50:07superpower, and I love how that that you you frame that, but
- 50:11have you learned certain mechanisms to help you kind of
- 50:16rein it in? Yeah, yeah.
- 50:20You know, it's, it's whether I remember to use them, you know,
- 50:23But I mean, there are certainly, and again, I think probably
- 50:28tying it back to that relationship with alcohol, I
- 50:34think that was a part of it. You know, I think it was like
- 50:37trying to slow my brain down and like, just chill.
- 50:40Sometimes it can be hard. You know, it can be really hard.
- 50:44But yeah, there's a lot of great techniques out there.
- 50:46I am not a professional to be coaching people up on it.
- 50:50I know those people. If anyone's listening, I'm happy
- 50:53to be a connector there, but it is, you know, there, there's a
- 50:57lot of it. There's a lot ADD and ADHD come
- 51:01with a lot of, a lot of nuances, if you will, or symptoms.
- 51:09What I, I hate the symptoms because that makes it sound like
- 51:11a sickness, but the, the, the character traits of an
- 51:14individual can be, can be unique.
- 51:19And so understanding that beyond just the ability to sit in a
- 51:22classroom or listen to a teacher or whatever, there's a lot of
- 51:25other byproducts of it. And just learning to recognize
- 51:28those signals and triggers has been important and something
- 51:31that's a work in progress for me to continue to learn more about
- 51:34as I go. Taylor, what's your favorite
- 51:37thing to do outside of work? I've got an awesome family, you
- 51:44know my wife. We have 4 kids in total now, my
- 51:4814 year old. Watching him play sports is one
- 51:52of the joys of my life. You know he's going to be
- 51:55entering high school here in 6-9 months, but I've had the joy of
- 52:04watching him play football and getting to coach him up to this
- 52:10point. Going to hand him off to the to
- 52:12the the more professionals at this point and just be a be a
- 52:17dad in the stands. But love that love being with my
- 52:21daughters. I've, you know, my wife, we have
- 52:23an amazing family, love to travel, enjoy the occasional
- 52:27round of golf when I can get it. And then I pour a lot of my time
- 52:31into an organization here in Cleveland called Cozy, which is
- 52:37the Council of Smaller Enterprises.
- 52:40And Cozy is our small business Chamber of Commerce, which is
- 52:45comprised of about 10,000 members, which then rolls in or
- 52:49is a part of the larger Greater Cleveland Partnership, which is
- 52:52Northeast Ohio's chamber. And so in three weeks, I will
- 52:57become the chair of COZY. And as a result, I'm, you know,
- 53:03also on the board in the executive committee of the
- 53:06Greater Cleveland Partnership as well.
- 53:09And then starting in the new year, I'll be joining the board
- 53:15of the National Small Business Association out of Washington,
- 53:19DC Actually, our first meeting is on the eight-year anniversary
- 53:23of stopping drinking. So when I think of God kind of
- 53:27giving me a little wink of when I just got that meeting date the
- 53:30other day, I look at that and say, I, I see what you did
- 53:34there, You know, you know, I mean, to say 8 years ago that
- 53:40you'll be, you know, getting to be an active and leading voice
- 53:45in the, in, in the national small business community is
- 53:51beyond my wildest dreams. And to be leading the Cleveland
- 53:54small business community alongside the great team at Cozy
- 53:57is just remarkable. I'm on the board of the College
- 54:02of Business at Ohio University as well, and then again on the
- 54:07board of One Step Ahead Ohio and, you know, a couple other
- 54:12committees and affiliations on top of that.
- 54:14But it all keeps me pretty busy. And the best thing is I have an
- 54:19incredible wife who lets me run around and do all this stuff.
- 54:25I was going to ask, how do you find time for it?
- 54:28You, you've got 4 kids, you're married to a lovely wife, all
- 54:31that takes time commit. You've got this business that
- 54:34you're running, that's a huge time commitment.
- 54:37All these other different involvements.
- 54:38Why do it? I once had a conversation with
- 54:48my wife that I, you know, I was able to say I believe my purpose
- 54:52on this earth is not just making money or just just to be solely
- 54:59at home with this family. And, and that's not meant to be
- 55:04to say they're not my number one priority, quite the opposite.
- 55:07But like, I believe I've been blessed with, you know, talents
- 55:12and I want to give those talents away and leave things in a
- 55:15better place than I found them. And I am able to live out like
- 55:19my purpose, you know, starting this business was never a get
- 55:25rich strategy. It's certainly nice to have the
- 55:29flexibility and autonomy and the earning potential that comes
- 55:33with business ownership, but more important to me is to have
- 55:39the freedom to chase and pursue the clauses and passions that
- 55:43are important to me. And so I have uniquely found my
- 55:48home in being an advocate for Northeast Ohio in our business
- 55:52community and the small business owners and and you know, I'm
- 55:57growing into a role advocating for small business owners on a
- 56:01national level. So you know, I don't know where
- 56:03the journey's taken me. I'm still young.
- 56:06I still got a lot of runway to go.
- 56:09But if these first eight years of being out on my own or any
- 56:15sample, I think it'll be pretty wild if you and I have another
- 56:19conversation from the eight years from now to see where
- 56:22we've gone. And for that, I'm beyond
- 56:24grateful. But it's also getting to just in
- 56:27this moment, in this season of life, not knowing what the next
- 56:30season is going to hold. I'm grateful to be able to give
- 56:33my time and talents away, in many cases freely, in support of
- 56:40the greater good. I love that.
- 56:43You know, Taylor, I've just got one more question for you today.
- 56:46But before I ask it, I want to do 3 quick things.
- 56:48First of all, anybody who wants to get in touch with Taylor, his
- 56:52e-mail address is taylor@rustbeltrecruiting.com.
- 56:56Also, Taylor S Evans, Rust Belt Recruiting is searchable on
- 57:01LinkedIn and will include links to both of those things in the
- 57:04show notes. Also, as a reminder, if you want
- 57:07to get more employees access to benefits that won't hurt them
- 57:09financially and carries a financial upside for the
- 57:12company, reach out to us at Add back benefits.com.
- 57:16Finally, if everyone will just take a moment to leave us a
- 57:18comment or review on the favorite podcast app, we'll hold
- 57:22a special place in my heart forever.
- 57:23Thank you. So, Taylor, last question for
- 57:26you. You and I reconnect, let's call
- 57:28it a year from now and you're celebrating something big.
- 57:31What do you think that is? What's that big thing you hope
- 57:33to be celebrating a year from today?
- 57:36You know, I, I hope to be celebrating a, an, another
- 57:41successful year at Rust Belt. Like we've really been on a nice
- 57:44run the last seven months with some turbulence.
- 57:48I, I want to have, you know, new faces in our organization, but
- 57:53more importantly, the same faces in our organization, you know,
- 57:57continue to retain and grow the amazing team that we are
- 58:01surrounded by. I, I hope it's been a great and
- 58:05successful year for Northeast Ohio from a business standpoint,
- 58:09you know, our economic growth and revitalization.
- 58:13I hope it's a great year for the manufacturing community as a
- 58:16whole and I hope it's a great year for all.
- 58:19Like, you know, we all kind of need a good year.
- 58:22And the most important thing that could be happening from a
- 58:26year from now would be that the Notre Dame Fighting Irish are 12
- 58:30and O and the number one seed going into the College Football
- 58:33Playoff on a tear, ready to pay everyone back for this past
- 58:37season. Getting left out.
- 58:39I'm sorry. I had to get it in today.
- 58:41I had to get it in. I love it.
- 58:43We'll take it. What a great way to end Taylor
- 58:46Evans from Rust Belt recruiting. I want to be the first to thank
- 58:49you for sharing both your time and your story with us today.
- 58:52I really appreciate it. Yeah, you too.
- 58:54I had a lot of fun with you and really just appreciate this
- 58:57opportunity to share my story and thank you for being a
- 59:00fantastic host. You're you're a true pro at this
- 59:03and the conversation was so easy because of what is a gift of
- 59:07yours. I appreciate those kind words.
- 59:10Thank you folks. That's a wrap on another episode
- 59:13of the Inspired Stories podcast. Thanks for learning with us
- 59:16today.