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End of World Cup dream for Canada - Reaction to loss vs Morocco - Ep. 311 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: An historic run for Canada comes to end in the
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  Speaker 1: round of sixteen at the World Cup. You're on the couch, guys, Johnny,
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  Speaker 1: Adriano and Nicholas. You could follow us on all your
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it could be better obviously with what we
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  Speaker 2: have to talk about tonight, but no, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: It's always a good time to try cultural. It's unfortunate
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  Speaker 3: the way it had to end for Canada. I think
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  Speaker 3: there was a lot more to be desired and we'll
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  Speaker 3: definitely get into that as we go along here on
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  Speaker 3: the episode.
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  Speaker 2: But happy to be back with always same.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like it was a fortunate circumstances about what happened.
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  Speaker 5: But hey, it's been an exciting World Cup and we've
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  Speaker 5: got a lot of positives to talk about from it,
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  Speaker 5: so might as well look at the silver linings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know what, I do want to
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  Speaker 1: start with the positives because I think it's easy to
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  Speaker 1: get caught into negative actually after a loss, and I think, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be you know, I guess letting some frustrations out,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, starting with the positives. What do you
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  Speaker 1: guys think this tournament, these five games for Canada will
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  Speaker 1: have as a lasting impact not only on you know,
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  Speaker 1: the country, but the men's team, but just soccer as
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  Speaker 1: a whole right in Canada, Because I I think I
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  Speaker 1: kind of said it last week, or maybe I did
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  Speaker 1: did and I forget, Like, we know, soccer is a
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  Speaker 1: popular sport in Canada, right, but the issue is people
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  Speaker 1: are going to support other countries, whether it's Italy, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's Spain, whether it's Brazil, Argentina, Morocco, Egypt, you name it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're starting to see a shift that
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  Speaker 1: people are starting to support the national team alongside.
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  Speaker 2: That other country.
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  Speaker 1: And it's okay to support both teams. You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: one of the only countries in the world where people
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  Speaker 1: are supporting their their you know, birth country or their
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  Speaker 1: country of origin ahead of their their current country. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna sit here and say that
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  Speaker 1: that's wrong, but at least now is an opportunity for
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  Speaker 1: kids to grow up and kind of want to watch
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  Speaker 1: the Canadian national team, not only watch the Italian national team, right,
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  Speaker 1: but want to watch both. And I think that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a positive impact. But what I also do want
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  Speaker 1: to see, Look, every sport's gonna have fairweather spans, fairweather fans.
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  Speaker 1: We see it in hockey with the habs people come
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  Speaker 1: out in the spring. Kind of want to see the
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  Speaker 1: same support all year round. We know that they play
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  Speaker 1: Nations League, they play Gold Cup, hopefully they're going to
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  Speaker 1: play Copa America in two years. We need that. We
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  Speaker 1: need that support every four years, not only sorry, every year,
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  Speaker 1: not only for a World Cup. So that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what I'm hoping to see in terms of like the
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  Speaker 1: growth of the team. I mean, look, obviously I hope
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  Speaker 1: they're going to grow more. I hope that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to become a serious team consistently. I hope that they
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  Speaker 1: consistently make World Cups. But I also hope that this
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  Speaker 1: World Cup kind of gives an opportunity for more funding
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  Speaker 1: at the grassroots level and kind of like building Canada
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  Speaker 1: soccer from the bottom up, or really from the top down,
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  Speaker 1: where you have a good foundation. You know, we talked
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  Speaker 1: about it so much with Italy. To develop youth, you
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  Speaker 1: need a good foundation, and I know Soccer Canada is
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  Speaker 1: hiring a technical director, you know. TSN did an interview
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  Speaker 1: with the CEO Soccer Canada. You talked a lot about
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  Speaker 1: fundraising and all that, So I hope, uh, the money's
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  Speaker 1: going to start flowing for for for this organization, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, even five years ago, six years ago, Soccer
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  Speaker 1: Canada had to pay broadcasters. Soccer Canada had to pay
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  Speaker 1: for broadcasters to show their games, not the other way around.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So uh that's I think I hope the lasting impact. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I you know, maybe it'll it'll inspire some kids to
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  Speaker 1: play soccer, but I don't think that's the issue. It's more,
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  Speaker 1: you know, those kids that are playing soccer, I hope
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  Speaker 1: they they want to become the next Canadian superstar, not
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  Speaker 1: the next Portuguese superstar, and not the next Italian superstar.
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  Speaker 1: They want to represent Canada. That's that's what I hope
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  Speaker 1: is going to happen from this World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, John.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to touch upon one with a quick thing.
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  Speaker 5: Uh for I answer any of that, I just want
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  Speaker 5: to say it's funny how you mentioned how like, uh
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  Speaker 5: like soccer canon has been up on the rise, and
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  Speaker 5: another exports that like we care about the most, which
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  Speaker 5: is hockey, is you know decreasing, you know, and Italy
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  Speaker 5: is going through the same thing where it's like soccer
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  Speaker 5: and Italy like the team isn't isn't as strong as
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  Speaker 5: used to be, so it's going it's going downwards. But
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  Speaker 5: like everything else, for like Italy, especially the Olympics, they've
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  Speaker 5: been breaking numbers for their for their sports. Ten has
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  Speaker 5: to be doing very well and sports that people obviously
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  Speaker 5: don't regard the Italians for Italy has been just dominating
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  Speaker 5: in those. It's just the one sport that we are
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  Speaker 5: used to dominating in it's not happening. And now it's
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  Speaker 5: just a vice versus happening in Canada too, which is hockey.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's like we're supposed to be the greatest
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  Speaker 5: nation and you know, the past couple of years has
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  Speaker 5: been rough, especially junior level to senior level and now
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  Speaker 5: it's but for soccer we've been blowing expectations and we're happy.
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  Speaker 4: But anyways, I just want to bring that up. Then
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  Speaker 4: I'll say my last point.
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  Speaker 6: But ah, you go ahead, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, just going back to you know next point of
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  Speaker 2: just you know, the positives of all this, I think
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  Speaker 2: more on the sporting side, but you know, besides all
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that is behind the scenes. You know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what does this tournament do you know? Going forward?
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  Speaker 3: I think it leads the blueprint, right, It leaves the
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  Speaker 3: blueprint of what can be done and what can be accomplished,
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  Speaker 3: and what there is to improve going forward.
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  Speaker 2: With the Canadian national team. It's you know, we we.
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  Speaker 3: Saw we got a bit of a taste that we
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  Speaker 3: got like a little bit of an appetizer, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two. And with with with that qualification
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  Speaker 3: and and and how that tournament went and how you know,
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  Speaker 3: that team you know, progressed and with.
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  Speaker 2: That coaching staff and all that, and you know.
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  Speaker 3: Now I think we got the main entree, right, we
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  Speaker 3: got you know, we got a bit more, right, you know,
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  Speaker 3: instead of just three games, you know, we we we
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  Speaker 3: went I don't want to say the distance, but we
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  Speaker 3: we went further than probably expected. So if there's anything
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  Speaker 3: that you know to take out of this just in
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  Speaker 3: a in a general sense, it's the blueprint of of
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  Speaker 3: how to go into tournaments, how to take them by
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  Speaker 3: the horns and and and play you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Canadian Canadian soccer, Canadian football.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that obviously starts with with who's in charge,
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  Speaker 3: right and you know, I think love him or hate him,
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  Speaker 3: and we might get into the comments of of of
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  Speaker 3: what he made later. I don't know, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: Jesse Marshall, love him or hate him, I think has
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  Speaker 3: done has done a good job with this with this team.
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  Speaker 3: It's clear that you know, there's there's there's a big
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  Speaker 3: group emphasis and he's kind of laying out lay down
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  Speaker 3: that foundation that you know, and he's done pretty much
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  Speaker 3: what hertman wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, marsh I think just took it to
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  Speaker 2: another level.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously, you know there's there's more and more you know,
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  Speaker 3: promising players that are that are coming through the ranks
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  Speaker 3: and at the core, you know, it's still somewhat of
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  Speaker 3: a young, young team, give or take. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: know some guys are going to be you know, entering
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  Speaker 3: their thirties or their way twenties come you know, the
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  Speaker 3: twenty thirty, you know, World Cup. But I just think
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  Speaker 3: you know, nobody expected Canada to do what they did.
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  Speaker 3: Make it out of the group, get a win, get
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  Speaker 3: a point, get like all these first that happened in
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  Speaker 3: this tournament. You know, it was was obviously like great
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  Speaker 3: and being able to progress out of the group get
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  Speaker 3: into the run of thory to win a knockout game
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  Speaker 3: and make it all the way to the last sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously, you know, we'll probably get
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  Speaker 3: into it later, but I think they could have progressed.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they should have progressed. You know, it's it's up
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  Speaker 2: for it's up for debate.
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  Speaker 3: But regardless of what it what the outcome was the
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  Speaker 3: biggest point that I wanted. I wanted to make on
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  Speaker 3: the question that you ask me, is is that the
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  Speaker 3: blueprint is is now is now printed and we're able
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  Speaker 3: to kind of bounce off of that as a reference
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  Speaker 3: point going forward.
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  Speaker 2: So as long as you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, things could continue to continue to go in here
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  Speaker 3: and and and and go forward, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Soccer Canada and the Canadian national team is in good hands.
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  Speaker 3: It's a work in progress. This is not a this
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  Speaker 3: is not an overnight thing. You know, people already walking
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  Speaker 3: into twenty thirty. We have to get there first, right
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  Speaker 3: like there's the building box to get there. And I
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  Speaker 3: think if if they continue the way they've they've they've been,
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll be in good hands going forward. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it sucks, but there is some some positive
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  Speaker 3: out of out of the heartache of a World Cup exit.
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  Speaker 5: The one thing I do really think what the big,
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  Speaker 5: biggest positive that we can take from this is that
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  Speaker 5: we kept on moving the goalpost for our own team
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  Speaker 5: in a positive sense, because it was, first of all,
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  Speaker 5: let's just get our first point and we got it.
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, let's just get you know, our first
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  Speaker 5: win and we got it. Let's just you know, maybe
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  Speaker 5: make it through the group stage. We did that, and
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  Speaker 5: we even surpassed that by even winning our first knockout game.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't as if, you know, this team was expected
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  Speaker 5: to reach this point. We did have we did have
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  Speaker 5: goals for the team. There's there's tween goals and expectations,
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  Speaker 5: but this is probably this probably surpassed what we put
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  Speaker 5: for for the little goals that we put for our team,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like, and it wasn't as if we overperformed.
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  Speaker 5: I think that we performed well enough. I think this
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  Speaker 5: team went as far as it could given what it
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  Speaker 5: has and the capacity that the you know what they've done,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, Canada has gone from being an average
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  Speaker 5: ranked of like like FEF ranked team of in the
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  Speaker 5: hundreds now to a team that were like low like
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  Speaker 5: seventies or eighties. Now that the ranked thirtieth in the
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  Speaker 5: world and they lost to the seventh ranked team in
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  Speaker 5: the world. It's not like as if they lost to
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  Speaker 5: a fiftieth or twentieth or sorry, a fiftieth or like
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  Speaker 5: one hundredth or whatever ranked team. Moroccos ranked seventh in
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  Speaker 5: the world, so they're not nobody. So it is it
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  Speaker 5: is something that you know, yes, it was, it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was a hard loss, you know for the team,
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  Speaker 5: but hold your head's eye for like what you've done
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  Speaker 5: and accomplished and saying all this, Nick did bring up
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  Speaker 5: a good point about like you know you saw like
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  Speaker 5: because I saw like even obviously when you see the
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  Speaker 5: early flags, you saw Canada flag with Brazil, Canada with Germany,
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  Speaker 5: Canada with Portugal, Canada with Haiti, Canada with uh In
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  Speaker 5: my area, I have this guy with Canada with Romania.
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  Speaker 1: I saw. I saw one car on Saturday Canada Barancos.
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  Speaker 1: I saw, I was like this guy celebrating no matter what.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like it's it's it was really nice to
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  Speaker 5: see where it's like ause you know, for the listeners
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  Speaker 5: that that probably don't know Montreal like or Canada in
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  Speaker 5: general if they're not Canadian listening.
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  Speaker 2: Canada.
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  Speaker 4: Canada is a very multicultural country. It makes sense North
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  Speaker 4: American country.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people have immigrated here, immigrated here throughout
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  Speaker 5: the years and decades, and we have this beautiful we
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  Speaker 5: call it a mosaic of of of a nation where
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  Speaker 5: different cultures are here and y'all coexist and whatnot. And
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  Speaker 5: we're a lot of our people here in Canada despite
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  Speaker 5: whatever nationality are, sorry, wouldn't despite despite being Canadian or
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  Speaker 5: weren't Canadian, they still are very strong at nic roots
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  Speaker 5: whatever it may be. And uh, it's nice to see
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  Speaker 5: that during Euros or World Cups because you see people
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  Speaker 5: put out there like on my street. I'm not kidding,
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  Speaker 5: on my street I have throughout the start of the
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  Speaker 5: competitions off Brazil, Portugal, Spain, Haiti, and there was there
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  Speaker 5: was there's a Portuguese person in the Spanish person across
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  Speaker 5: the street from each other. Further up kills each Otherese person.
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  Speaker 5: There's there's a couple of hate. There was a couple
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  Speaker 5: of Haiti flags. Oh no, the Portugal, like one of
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  Speaker 5: the Portuguese valmilies brought this like big big carpet and
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  Speaker 5: hung it down from like their middle Balkany down to
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  Speaker 5: the garage just to show like it just it's it's
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  Speaker 5: it's so funny.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, like it's just it's there's a And what
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  Speaker 4: this does.
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  Speaker 5: This type of performance does, is that the kids that
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  Speaker 5: are growing up, you know, yes, obviously they're still gonna
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  Speaker 5: let's be real, we're still going to put on early
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  Speaker 5: jersey first over Canada jersey first, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 5: and it's not any disrespected the Canadian national team. But
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  Speaker 5: if there's a kid who you know, like I think
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  Speaker 5: Stephen is the Stephni Stacio is like the perfect example
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  Speaker 5: where it's like his parents are Portugal, he's proudly Portuguese,
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  Speaker 5: he plays in Portugal and whatnot, but he still chose
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  Speaker 5: to play for Team Canada because you know, you wanted
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  Speaker 5: to give something back to the country that was his home.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: So now is it a certain different circumstances Portugal came
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  Speaker 5: up to Tim Task and played for his national team.
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  Speaker 5: Who knows, But for a kid who's like, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: maybe I might not be good enough for Team Italy,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, I'd give my my services to Team
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  Speaker 5: Canada and do my best with Team Canada. That's a thing,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's completely feasible. And now it's a performance
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  Speaker 5: like this, kids be like, you know what, we can
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  Speaker 5: do something for this country. And I think, I know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm going all over the place. I guess a good
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  Speaker 5: real life comparable Argentina if you look at Argentina.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So the reason I'm bringing this up is because I
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  Speaker 5: worked one of my colleagues. One of my former colleagues
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  Speaker 5: Italian name. Both both his grandparents are from Italy, but
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  Speaker 5: his parents are from were born in Argentina.
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  Speaker 6: He was born in Argentina.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever, and his his family's like, obviously Argentina first, right,
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  Speaker 5: but they still go they go Italy second because that's
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  Speaker 5: their like ethnicity, I guess, but they're like, but for us,
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  Speaker 5: we were always like Argentina first, and we're so passionate
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  Speaker 5: about Argentina. But I also thought, but I also like
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  Speaker 5: put into perspective to me because Argentina was doing very
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  Speaker 5: well and Argentina was winning, you know, especially that he
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  Speaker 5: grew up in a time of Madadonna, like he was
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  Speaker 5: he was a kid, but he was a kid during
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  Speaker 5: Madadonna's years. So if we ever get a Canada, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not saying kind of is Argentina. But what I'm trying
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  Speaker 5: to say is that if you ever get a Canada
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  Speaker 5: that is realistically performing very well and realistically competing, you know,
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  Speaker 5: realistically going for even if it's a Gold Cup final
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  Speaker 5: in a Gold Cup, or even if they play in
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  Speaker 5: a Copa America and they do well in a Copa America.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like in these competitions, you're going to motivate
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  Speaker 5: kids to want to play for a team Canada versus
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  Speaker 5: is whatever ethical background they may have, because you're giving
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  Speaker 5: them a chance to show what glory does exist in
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  Speaker 5: a Canadian jersey. Doesn't always exist in a different jersey.
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  Speaker 5: You could exist in your own home country. So that's
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  Speaker 5: what probably the long term effects of something like this,
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  Speaker 5: this tournament, despite the loss, this is like the silver
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  Speaker 5: lining I was talking about, there's gonna be a big
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  Speaker 5: ripple effect for Canadian soccer.
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  Speaker 6: It's gonna inspire a lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: We've already made good progress in terms of like you know,
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  Speaker 5: we have our own we have the MLS, but we
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  Speaker 5: have our own Premier League, you know, for development. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, day by I guess day by day, but
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  Speaker 5: year by year we should be progressing hopefully spite you know,
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  Speaker 5: unless unless unless it Benua comes around along.
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  Speaker 3: And no, no, no, no, don't don't put don't put this
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  Speaker 3: cut on you there. I just think I just think
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  Speaker 3: there's a there's now it's even just a platform, right
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  Speaker 3: because you know, five, six, seven, ten years ago, these kids,
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  Speaker 3: the kids of that generation didn't have and outlet, didn't
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  Speaker 3: have a platform to say, you know what, I want
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  Speaker 3: to represent Canada. There was no there was nothing to
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  Speaker 3: base it on, like especially on the men's side, Like
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  Speaker 3: the women's side was doing fantastic growing up for us.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when we thought of of football, soccer, culture,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, in this country, the
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  Speaker 3: women's team always came first in our generation of of
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  Speaker 3: growing up, right. You know, it's only recently in the
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  Speaker 3: recent times I would say, is that when the men's
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  Speaker 3: program really started developing, Like we weren't around in eighty six,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that looked like. That landscape of
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  Speaker 3: football looked like, you know, with with with that qual
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  Speaker 3: with that qualification into the World Cup. Then you know,
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  Speaker 3: in our in our lifespan, like we thought of culture
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  Speaker 3: in this country, it was the women's team. Christine Saint
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  Speaker 3: Clair like those were like those were the names, right,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: And I think now for for the boys and the
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: men and the young men, you know, going forward, there's
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: now this platform that these teams of late has has
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: created for them. So it's up to them obviously to
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: take it to the next level. But now there's an outlet.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Now there's a platform to to bounce off of what
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Johnny was was trying to allude to. And I know,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I think Nick has a point as well to add,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: but you know, there's now something to to to look
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: back on and ar row, lean back on and say, Okay,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: this is this, this is the end goal if I
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: decided to go this route in playing football in this
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: country or soccer in this country, right on the men's side.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: So I think that's another positive that that adds to this. Obviously,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: we know the MLS, especially now with the CPL that's
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: come to Canada finally having teams in pretty much all
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: corners now of of of of the country.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: But there probably could be more, you know, if if
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: if we're really being you.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Know, nitty nitty gritty, but all corners of the country
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: are pretty much covered, uh, you know, in terms of
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: the CPL. So that's more growth, you know, more exposure
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and and there's talent there, right, guys, so we we've
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: seen it firsthand.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So these are just other positives I think.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Despite a three mil loss to Morocco in the Round
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: the sixteen, that the World Cup twenty twenty six, these
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: are other points that that show that you know, there
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: there is a light at the end of the tunnel,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: there is something to look forward to, There is a platform.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: You know, there is a blueprint, you know, for for
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Canadian football, especially on the men's side, you know, going
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: forward in this country.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys said it perfectly and even Jenny,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: what you said is kept moving the goal post. And
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's why after Saturday's game, I was a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: bit disappointed, you know, I was outside, I was down.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it kind of the same feeling when Italy loses.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And and that's kind of why. And you know, for
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: people who's watched this team the past, let's say five years,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: we knew this was a realistic expectation for Canada to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: get to the Round the sixteen. I think before the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: terminent everyone was talking about, you know, at least just
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: get out of the group, right, that was probably the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: most you know, realistic goal at least get out of
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the group. But like if you know, we were talking
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: about it before the tournament, if you're betting, if you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: odds are odds were that Canada was going to get
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to the round of sixty. So that's what you know.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Like Johnny said, they didn't overperform. I don't think they
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: underperformed either. I think this was what we kind of expected, right,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: But for people who weren't watching Canada, who never watched
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Canada World Cup, for them to go to the round
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: to sixteen, that's an amazing thing, right. But regardless, Yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: so you know, for them in the game, I think
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: what was disappointing is exactly what we talked about last week,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: missing those chances.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: They came out so so strong, they were dominating. I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: think preparedness. I think Jesse Marsh won that battle in
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: terms of the two coaches, but I think Morocco made
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: it in game adjustments that put them ahead. And after
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: those first fifteen to twenty minutes after the hydration break,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's when Morocco kind of really took control
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of the game and those two chances that that David
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: chance that he didn't take.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I think him there's something in his head in terms
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of confidence. We know strikers with confidence, you know, when
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: they're down there down But even that that Tanny Olo
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: say that stopped. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Bonu the credit right for that save. But you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you look at the replay and he could have passed
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it off to David and obviously you know that's looking
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: at a replay in the moment, I think he made
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: a good choice of us in shooting that. I think
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: it was a good shot. It was it was a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: bank bank play. He made a nice move around the defender.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It was a bank bank play. Yes, he should have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: shot it higher, but you know, he's on I don't
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: know if he's left footed or right footed player, but
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: he's kind of off balanced. I think he did the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: best he could. But I think that saved that bottom save.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I think that already changed the game. And once he
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: stopped that, in my head, deep down, I was like, man,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: if they don't score on the next chance, it's it's
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: already done. Like this, these are the chances, And that's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: kind of what happened. And I you know, at halftime.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I thought like they needed to score in that first half,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and the longer the game goes without Canada scoring first,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you're just giving Morocco that life.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And that's what happened.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And you know, look, at the end of the day,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Morocco was the better team. They're they're very talented as
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a team that went to the semi finals last year,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and they kind of just schooled Canada that regard. You know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the two goals coming later, it was just because of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Canada pushing up. You know, Canada tack goals like they're
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: washed their watch goals. But you know, it is frustrating.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was also frushing. Is is Morocco really
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: knew how to play the dark game right? All the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: all the fouls they drew, all the stupidities, man, there
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: were There was a defender I forget who it was,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: number three. He headed the ball away, but there was
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a contact with him and maybe Buchanan or Johnson. He
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: headed the ball away. He goes down holding his.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Head on us.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: There you go, he headed the ball. You know, I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: was thinking, if he scores, he's not going down holding
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: his head. It's that that dark stuff. And even no,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: he he should have got his second yellow because he
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: held back Aliavan early on in the second half on
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: a counter attack. He got away with that and then
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: he scores right after. But it's it's stuff like that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that Canada has to use UH as a learning experience, right,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And I hate to say it, I really do, because
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think diving should be part of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the game. I hate the exaggeration. I hate that part
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of the game. And unfortunately, even as Canadians were told,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, we're tough, stick up, you know that it
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: comes from that hockey culture, right. But look when when
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: we play these type of teams like like Morocco or
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: even let's say they played the Copa America or even
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: in in Conca Calf where these there's these shenanigans. They
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: need to learn how to play that and and just
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: get away with stuff. The one guy who does it
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: best is probably Richie Richie Lerea. You know, he really
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: got in Akimi's face there. But I think you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: there was even another play where David was on the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: counter attack and he's getting kind of pulled back from
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: behind it and he just continues writing, dude, just fall,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: just fall, draw the foul. You know, and so that's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: one mistake I think Canada made was just letting Morocco
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: control the game in that sense, and they at first
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: they were kind of hesitant to doing that. Throughout the game.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Canada definitely did play that game as well, but Morocco
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: just look, this is a team that won an aft
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Con on on paper because Senegal walked out and a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, you know, the African Federation just
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: ruled that Morocco won the aft Coon on paper, right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: So of course they know they're gonna get away with shit,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and that's what happened, and so it's a learning experience
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: for Canada. I think this is a game that I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: think the players at the end of the day they
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: were disappointed. You heard it in the interviews, and moving forward,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they need to use this as a motivation, whether it's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the next World Cup or Gold Cup or Cope American between.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it says three nil on the on
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the score on the score sheet.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think this was a three nil game if
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: especially if you watch the game, but people will see
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: the result and be like, oh, you know, Morocco, you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: walked over Canada. I think they definitely did more in
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the second half. But I think this was a we
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: say it so many times on this show, especially when
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: we talk about Sadiya, and especially when we when we
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: break down games, you know, tale of two halves, Like
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like we're broken records and saying it. But again,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: this was a tale of two halves in this contest
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: because I think Canada, despite not putting away the chances
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: that they should have and it's exactly like Nick said,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: It's exactly what we spent said last week. It's exactly
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: what we said in our group chat. You know, these
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: guys are gonna get burned because they're not putting the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: ball in the back of the net when they have
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: those opportunities. You know, if this was you know, twenty
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: twenty two, we wouldn't have even had the opportunities that
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: they've that they've generated, you know, in this tournament, but alone,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: just this game. Now, we're actually creating chances, and you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like Canada falls.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: In a bit of a in a bit of a
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you know, a limbo of not being able to put
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the ball in the back of the net when when
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: they have those chances that they're creating, so that that
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: that burned them, and you know, it's it's it's on
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: them not to say that they gave away the game
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to Morocco, because obviously Morocco, like you Sky said, like
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: everybody knows, is you know, is no pushover. They are.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: They are solid team, especially over these last handful of
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: years where they've really you know, turned up, you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: in tournaments and just just in general.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: As as a group.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's obviously not to take any discredit
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: to anything that they did do. But at the same time, Canada,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: they didn't do themselves any favors you needed to.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And I think it was Nick that said the last
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: week you have to score in the first half.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I think starting the game, I think Canada's problem throughout
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the throughout, but maybe besides the guitar game, because I was,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously a wild you know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Go fest. Starting the game was always a big issue
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: with Canada. They would press yeah, but they it would
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: be useless pressure because they were just running like all
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: kinds and and and nothing really was was coming out
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: of it. I think in this game, it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Was their first game where they actually started on a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: more positive foot in my opinion, had opportunities to score didn't.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Obviously the bono save, like listen, that's that's a that's
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: a top keeper save, right Like you know, goalis are
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: going to make those types of save.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So to say that, you know, I think he should
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: have probably scored.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, a goal and
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: makes a top safe like that, you can't really do
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: much more about it. So it just I think starting
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the game was was was positive they had to have
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: scored in the first half.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And if they weren't going to, which ultimately they didn't,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: in my head, I'm like, either that it's going to
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: be a carbon copy of the Switzerland game, that they're
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: going to get burned right after the halftime, which I
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: don't want to say we're gonna I'm not shra damous
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like Johnny, but you know, five minutes later they end
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: up they ended up scoring and and and the game
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: kind of opened up.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: But if that wasn't going to happen, I was like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: this team was going to have to push it to
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: extra time into penalties because there's I didn't think there
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: was gonna be another outweigh and another way to to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: uh to win. Granted, Kinada has scored you know some
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: some goals in this tournament late, uh, you know, in the.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Seventy fifth minute plus.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Uh, So that was another kind of lifeline to say,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe, but once it became one, once it
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: became two, once it became that third well the third
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: one was was really at the end, but once it
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: became two, it it really started to close the door
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: on this on this run. And it's unfortunate because I
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: think on another day, and I know Marsh said this,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: but I think on another day, you capitalize at least
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: on one of those chances, like if this is a
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: one to one game going down to the wire, you know.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Listen, anything is possible. I like our chances like you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: you you you you stay you know, defensively sound, and
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you know, anything can happen.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: So we didn't score first, we didn't score at all.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: We didn't capitalize on what we had to capitalize on.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, these are the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: things that add up and burn you because a good
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: team on the other side, you know, in terms of
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: in terms of this one being you know, Morocco, they're gonna,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: they're gonna, they're gonna make you pay.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. You know, did I like
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: all the antics.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: No, I would have liked to have maybe uh seen
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: that a bit more at a minimum.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: But this is an experienced team and it's it's it's.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Outcomes like this, it's it's it's you know, uh failure
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: or or or losses like this that only could make
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: you better, you know, going forward.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So it has to be a learning experience.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I think last tournament was was was a learning experience
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: for for the program as a whole. Now this tournament,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I think is another learning progres uh progress, uh, you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: for for the team. And let's see what happens next tournament.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You know, if obviously they have to qualify, but if
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: they do, let's see what transpires. So it's building bucks.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It's a shame because I do think, you know, there
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: was I don't know if for me, like it could
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: it could.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Have been doable.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Like we didn't get going out of the water for
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: a minute one, We stayed in the game for a
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: good forty five. You know, it's shame on us that
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: we didn't you know, put them away rather than them
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: putting us away. So again, I think on another day,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I think it had been a bit more competitive. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: think there could have been goals on both sides, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: you know, I think anything could have happened going forward.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But listen, Chapeau to Morocco. You know they were the
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: better team on the day. They did what they had
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: to do and now they go and have to enjoy
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: playing France in in the quarterfinals. So but yeah, definitely, definitely. Again,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: like we've said, kind of all episode positives in the negative,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: there is some positives to look at, but I do
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna get into the negative later,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: but there are still some negative that I kind of
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: wanted to bring out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, Johnny.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Before before you go, I just want to bring up
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the like the XG. I think it was like eight
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: point four, right point eight four for Canada and like
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: point seventy eight for Morocco, So it was it was close.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: There was one at one point in the game, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I don't remember because TSS had put in first half,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: TSN had put it up on the screen because with
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: with with with with the game. They were at point
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: zero two.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Morocco expected goals and listen, I'm not one, I'm not
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: a big one on saying like this expected goalstat thing like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not really big on that because that can change
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: in a flash, but just to put in people's heads
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: or ears if you're listening or watching, you know, on
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: this episode, zero points zero two expected goals for Morocco
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: in that first half at a certain point in that
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: first half against Canada. So listen, it's it's really shame
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: on us for not being able to really put them away.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: But just bike, there's not much worse than zero points
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: zero two. It's it's either zero zero point zero one
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and then there's zero points zero two. Like, it really
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: doesn't get much more worse than this. So I saw that,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I was like, there is no way, Like I couldn't
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: believe it. Almost at the end it ends up being closer,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: like you're alluding to neck, but when I saw zero
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: point zero two, I couldn't believe it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But that but that was the difference, right, good team's
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: gonna score there on their chances. Yeah, and they flipped
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: that and not so good team's not gonna score even guys. Yes,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I was watching the Brazil game. Norway did the same thing.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Expected goals won. They scored two brazils Is on their chances.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: They misspellenty they lose, so I have to watch the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: same thing twice. Jenny, go ahead.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think one of the main issues
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: that woul also take away from this one was also
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: just some tactician issues.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Jesse Marsh.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I'm still gonna be in his corner and I'm still
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: gonna be a firm believer that he really did elevate
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: this team, and this was probably the one game that
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: you know, he didn't do it. He didn't do a
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: really good job, because I think you said it best.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: He didn't.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: He didn't adjust during the game, and that's why we
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: ended up losing this one. Whether I think there was
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: a chance that maybe made some decisions. He probably could
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: have pushed extra any extra names while I'm thinking because
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I watch baseball last.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Night, extra time.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: You could have put hey if.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: You're lucky, maybe you're lucky. You could have pushed penalties.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: But there were some some questions, questionable decisions. Adriano said it,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: uh very well that in a chat of ours that
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: why wasn't Alfonso Daisy so sub like you know, like
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: this is regardless. Yeah I'll let him, you know, but
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: like give the speech. But like we said it, like
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: our first preview episode where this guy's the talisman of
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the team, you know, and the fifteen minutes that he
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: came on versus South Africa, Like how how much South
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Africa were on their heels was crazy, you know, like
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: they they backed off so much and allowed Daisy Davies
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: to just take over the game whenever he came to
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: his side, and the creativity that he showed.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Was much much needed. It was very needed for the team.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: So the fact that we didn't get a chance to
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: see him in his game kind of hurts because you're
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: kind of creating this whole like idea that well, what
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: if what if Davi's played you know, what if this
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Now obviously, we like like an actual authentic soccer fan's
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: gonna understand that, like, well, you know, Davies is playing injured.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: They probably rushed him back from an injury just to
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: be in this World Cup. We were not idiots. We
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: know that he's hiding something, you know, like he can't
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: be his fast self. Maybe I don't think he's ever
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: gonna be super fast up self, if ever anymore, you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: because it just seems like the kid's.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Got the worst luck in the world.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: But it still sucks regardless of the score line.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: You knew you were gonna lose the game, but it
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: just to you know, just to spiritually have him, you know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: to spiritually have him on the pitch for the last
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: ten minutes, you know, just to have that you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: moment of Davies something that would have been nice.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: So I I think all in.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: All, Marsh did very good, did a very good job
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: with the squad. Definitely brought them to new heights.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: I don't think.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: We we yank him at all.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know why people were like because of his comments,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: people were like, we were saving stuff like the like
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: you're so stupid, blah blah blah. Like that's the guy's
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: taking heat off his players, you know what I'm saying,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Like he's drawn the attention to him, not in the
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: sense that he wants to be a star or whatever.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: It's because he didn't want people to say like, oh,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: this player did like everyone's like like a casual family.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Like Maxim Crepole didn't save anything that game. It's like, Okay,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Maxim Capole can have a bad game, but overall.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: Maxim Capole is a good goalie.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: You know what, I'm saying he's a good tending Prior
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: to game, I think Canna only had what was it,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: one of the lowest goals against averages in the entire tournament,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Like up there defensively for expected goals against, they were there,
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: like Spain's dominating right now, like Spain hasn't let in
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: a goal, but like Canada was near them, Like you're
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: in the top five of expectacles against and plays a big,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: big factor into that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: So you know that game happened, but it was one
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: of the it was the biggest game in their history,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: which is interesting to see.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Fortunate.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's interesting to say so. I just think
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Marsh made some tactical errors. But by me saying that,
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: it is not a knock on him. He still did
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: an amazing job with this team, and I I.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Am a personal believer in him.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of his and I hope that
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: he continues just to coach the squad.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Jenny, we were look, we
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: watched Marcia's impact back in twenty twelve and when he
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was he was a good coach then, right, yep, And
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: he was unjustififired from that from that job. But I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: think he's going to say on at least he already signed.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: He already signed his contract.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: The contract I think he's I think he's gonna say, look,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: we've seen with coaches in this World Cup. If they're gone,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: they're gone the day after. But no, look, Davies, I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: think that is a big talk. It's it's tough because
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: obviously he wasn't a hundred percent. I think if he
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: plays for any other country, probably doesn't even make the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: World Cup team because you know, with this expanded rosters
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of twenty six players, you know a lot of people saying, oh,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you wasted a spot. Honestly, who who would have Canada
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: taken that would have had an impact. You know, the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: guys who were on the pre pre preliminary roster, the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: pre tournament camp, the Jamie Knight, Leo Labell, Jason Russell, Roll,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jebson, Daniel Jebson and Ralph Prizol. But him too,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: he was injured. He got injured right at the end
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: of camp. Those guys aren't pushing the needle and at
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that point and rather have fifteen minutes of Afonso Davies
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and that had that leader in the room than have
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: those guys. Look, even Jaden Nelson, who came on to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the team for Marcelo Flores, only played the last couple
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of minutes against Morocco just to I think marsh did
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a good job just throwing him on just to get
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: that tournament experience. Otherwise, but I don't think you would
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: have played. That's unfortunately the unfortunate downside of the Canadian
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: team right now. It's not a lot of depth in
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: terms of managing the injury and and all the secretcy. Look,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: we don't know the full story, right It does feel
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: like Byron had to say I know Davi's had a
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: personal trainer there. There were rumors that that personal trainer
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was from Byron. If that's true, that's screwed up that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a team is setting their own representative to a camp
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like that. Look, it's it's not gonna happen with any
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: other national team. I don't think Byron sends their own
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: guys to the German camp. You know, it's if that's true,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: it's unacceptable. You know, soccer accept it. Step in if
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he wasn't ready it, Yeah, I would have sucked. Maybe
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: just not include him. But again, that goes back to
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the conversation that you know, Jesse Marsh and Alfonso Davis
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: probably new heading in and obviously they weren't gonna say
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: it publicly that the chances of him playing were low
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and they but they wanted him to be there as
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a leader of the team and until you know the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: whole secrecy stuff. Look, we watched the NFL. Right in
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the NFL, there's strict rules, you know, and of like
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: questionable probaby, they don't they don't need to do that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: In the World Cup, jesse Marsh could say he's gonna play,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and he's not gonna play. Even this this past game apparently, uh,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: there was a setback. They're obviously not gonna say it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: But if you guys saw Davies warmed up at half,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: jesse Marsh said after that that was his own doing.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: That was Davies saying he wants to warm up. Who
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: knows if there was a calling from the medical team
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: or even from Pyron to say he can't play. So, uh,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of criticism, criticism, there's a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: lot of criticism that I don't like across the country
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, he needs a tough fit out. Patris
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: bergeron played in the Stanley Cup final with a broken sternam. Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that's great. Hockey players are are tough there. But the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: way hockey is, you're allowed to play through these type
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: of injuries. In soccer, if you're not one hundred percent,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna have an impact, You're gonna you're gonna
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: actively hurt your team. So you can't have alfonse with
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Davies go out there and and and pull a hammy
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: on a you know, sprinting back to cover defensively and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: then you have to sub them out. That's not that's
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: not how it works. You can't you can't go battle through,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: especially with muscle injury. Hamstring is very delicate. So it's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: such a weird It was a weird scenario. At the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: end of the day, there's probably gonna be a million
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: stories coming out within the next couple of weeks, a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: couple of months. But I think, you know, at the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: end of the Davies for him, it sucks. And look, Canada,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: they were not one hundred, one hundred percent fully healthy.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Canadian team probably is a lot more competitive in this team.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when yeah, that's my that was that was my point.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I want to kind of bring up is.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Like besides, besides, besides Davies, Like I'll say what I
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: had to say about.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Davies, but you know, not a this is this was
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: like and they never.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Really made it. They never made it in an excuse
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: or like a talking point. But if the facts of
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the facts, like this was not a one healthy team,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: and now people are going to listen to this and say, well,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: you know, nobody's one hundred percent healthy at this time
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: of the year, which I totally get. I totally understand
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: that is the truth. But at the same time, as
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: much as those things are true, you have to face
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: the facts and say.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they're not one hundred percent healthy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: We had our star midfield break his tibia fibia, you know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: in the second game of the tournament, so you know
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: we have our better one of our better defenders, if
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: not our best defender, you know, coming off you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: coming off an injury of his own. Wait till the
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: last possible second to get even into the into the
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: call up with the moist Bombito, you know, Marcel for
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: As tears as a cl right before right before the tournament.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: You know, uh, the list goes on, you know, Cony
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: obviously like like like I said promise David with the
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: hip also, you know, go into the last possible minutes
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: to get into this team.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Uh you know he he makes it so as much
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: as it's not an excuse, which it isn't, and I
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: know they haven't put.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: It out there as like all you know we did
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: we only got this front because of X, Y and
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Z injuries. I know that's not the that's not the
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: case or was never the case. But if we really
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: look at a deep down, that is the reality. This
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: wasn't one hundred percent fully fit team.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Not to say that they was.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: They were going to go, uh you know, all the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: way by by having these players one hundred percent, having
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Cony not with with with both legs rather than one broken.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: But I do think this would have maybe been a.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Bit more uh you know, competitive in these games where
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: it was going to get tough.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Not having to hope and pray that Bombito is gonna
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: last ninety plus minutes, you know when when he hadn't
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: played barely anything in the tournament, Uh, you know, having
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: to hope that Alfonso Davis's hamstring was gonna was gonna
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: be good to go at some point in the tournament.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: He only played sixteen minutes total in this whole tournament
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: for Canada.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So you know, at the end of you know, at
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's it sucks, it's unfortunate.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: You always want to see the best players on the pitch,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: no matter what it is, whatever league you follow, whatever
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: national team you support, you want to see the best
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: players on the pitch.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I think the Davies thing is it's just unfortunate. Honestly,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: there's a part of me that that that thinks it's like, well,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: why did we include him. I totally agree that the
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: who we were gonna bring was never going to move
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the needle.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna like I said last week, you're not going
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to fill in Alfonso Daviess truths, it's just not gonna happen.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: He's our best player, he's brought us so far, he's
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: done some great things. Gonna Canada shirt. But at the
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: same time, you never know, you know, somebody could have
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: maybe made an impact in these little moments throughout games.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I still I still think there was a there was
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: a way to have him, have him around, but not
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: you know, be part of what be part of the
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: call up with I think there could have been that
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: type of uh, you know, agreement.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day in the game, in
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the game against Morocco, he said it himself.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Uh Marsh also confirmed it in the pressers. You know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: he had felt something that he wasn't in the morning
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: of wasn't wasn't one hundred percent. Didn't want to be
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: a burden on the team. Alfonso Davis said these things right.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: He didn't want to put his team behind the eight
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: ball by him being out there and being a liability.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: And ultimately he knew going into that game that he
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: wasn't gonna play. It's just unfortunate because the what ifs
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: is what a lot of fans and a lot of
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: people are gonna are gonna hone in on, you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: what if this, what if that? And you know, I
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: think obviously the big what if of of Davies is
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: the center of attention in all that. But another some
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: things I've been also hearing online and just you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: from from.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: From media and and and whatnot.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Alfonso Davies should never play for the Canadian national team ever.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Again, are you fucking stupid?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Like this guy is like like I don't know, like
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: he's our Wayne Gretzky. He's our Diego Maradona, like he's
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: our you know, he's our guy, right, like you think
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: of Canada, so you think of Fonso Davies. It's as
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: simple as that. So for people to say, like this guy,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: because of the antics or whatever transpired in this tournament,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: that he should never shoot up for Canada again. Yeah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, go touch in grad school,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: woke up in the sky, read a book. I don't
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: know what you gotta do, but you gotta wake the
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: funk up because you know, Alfonso Davies, like I said,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: is Canada, and and Canada is Alfonso Davies.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: So it's it's that.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I when I've heard these types of things online fluttering
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: around the uh the Canadian national team universe, it was
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: just a bit head scratching and mind boggling to me.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: You know, uh, he will be back, I.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Think, in one shape or another, in in some capacity.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: When that is how that is, uh, you know, remains
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: to be seen. But this isn't FIFA, guys. This isn't
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: like when the player goes down in FIFA, and it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: not it's not one of those injuries where you have
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: to sub them out and he's he just has the
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: little the little bandate on him that he's able to
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: still fucking play in the game. This isn't this isn't FIFA, right,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: This isn't f C twenty six right. So, uh, you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: these muscle injuries like Nikol Woody too, are more serious
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: than we we want to accept. They are serious, right.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: He prides himself on his pace up and down the flank.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: If you don't have a hammy, that's out one hundred
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: percent and you want to be uh, your your your
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: explosive self on a flank, it's just not gonna happen.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: So again, unfortunate. I do think things could have potentially
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: looked different in the landscape of things for Canada in
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: this tournament. Maybe we don't lose to one to to
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: to Suzuin, maybe we draw that game, maybe we win
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: the Bosnia game, maybe we score a goal against Morocco.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Like there's all of these what ifs. So it's a
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, just unfortunately. I do
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: think it's it's one of these things where we did
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: the best I think that we could have with what
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: we had at our disposal. Some guys came up some
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: guys showed out a bit. You know, I didn't I
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: didn't know what to expect from Nico Sieger. Nico Sieger
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: in the in the in this game after his performance
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: in the first game was was a bit wishy watching
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: for me. He comes in, he puts in a pretty
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: good shift, you know, Nathan Saliba comes in for his
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: his his brother is Malcone, scores a goal, instant impact
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: off the free kick. It just you couldn't write these
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: things up. So there's certain players that came in that
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: that that made the impact, but there's a lot of
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: our top players that didn't perform. And if we have
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: to really face the facts, and I maybe will bleed
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: into that now, but you know, this team could have
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: maybe went a bit further if if our other players
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: not named the Alfonso Davies that were actually on the
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: pitch would have performed that at the level that we
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: think they can and we know that they can be at.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I think that kind of hurt us, you know, throughout
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: this tournament as well.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Jenny, I know you need to get going. I was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: gonna bring up one more topic.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: We could wrap it up if you want, job.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean we could go for one more.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much what you were saying, Adriana. You know
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: what I was gonna say or bring up was like, yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: what do you guys think or what do you guys
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: want to see from the national team moving forward, whether
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it's players or a team, because two things for me,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I think I need to find. Okay, look, we know
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Davis is a striker, but we need him back
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and forth. We need him to go back to Uventus,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: get back to his confidence, be that guy.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Need him to leave you Uventus. That's what we needed
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: They can't sell them unless he goes out alone. They
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: can't sell them now at this point. But he needs
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: to get his confidence back somewhere, so he needs to
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: get back there. If it's not Jonathan David, who else?
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I think Canada right now does have a striker problem.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: So maybe, you know, experiment with different strikers. But look,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they don't have a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: lot of depth, so maybe that's something they look into.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But in terms of the team, I want to see
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: more competitive friendlies. You know, it is tough to schedule friendlies,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you know, for the games coming up in the September
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: October window. You know, the European teams are busy. I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: think they'll be able to play some Conn and Bolt teams,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: maybe some Asian teams as well. But I want to
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: see some more competitive friendlies. You know, nothing against Republican
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Republic of Ireland or Tunisia. You know, I want to see,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to see them play it only
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: maybe one day, maybe Brazil, maybe Argentina again. But I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: also want him to be competitive incompetitive game. So Gold
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Cup's coming up, or even Nations League, go out and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: win something. This is Canada's Golden generation. Go out and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: get that Gold Cup. It's been twenty six years since
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: they last won in two thousand. Go to win it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I know it's easier said than done. I know sometimes
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: these Gold Cups they won't have the full talent at
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: their disposal. Regardless, they're a favorite in this tournament moving
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: forward between Mexico and the US. Right, even if they
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: get to play in Copa America in two years, be
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: competitive in that they finished fourth last time out, make
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the final this time. That's another tournament they could. They could,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: they could have an impact depending on who's their group
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and the pairings of the knockout round. But I want
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: to see more competitiveness and to get better. Every year
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: we've seen them get better. Look the rankings, even in
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: a four years ago, they finished the end of the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: last World Cup fifty third and they're going to finish
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: this one thirtieth, So right away, that's an improvement. I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: not going to say they're going to go twenty spots higher,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: but look Morocco in the last World Cup they're twenty
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: second and now they're seventh, So maybe they kind of
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: need to use Morocco as an inspiration. And in that
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: regard to Morocco uses a lot of players that aren't
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: even born in Morocco, they have Moroccan heritage. Maybe Canada
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: needs to take advantage of that, go out search for
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: guys kind of like the fooj role right, search for
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: guys with Canadian heritage in Europe quote and use that
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: relaxed international rules to their advantage and recruit players into
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Soccer Canada. They've they've done a good job with that.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: They've gone to England a lot of players in the past,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: you know, even Owen Goodman, Alfie Jones as well.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Continue that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I want to see from Soccer
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Canada moving forward.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, I agree.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: It goes on to the fact that I said at
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: the start of the episode where Canada is blessed to
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: be a country where we have a lot of people.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: You know, it's i would say, a multipot because we're
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: not all kind of like working towards one thing, like
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: you know, we're kind of like we're sharing each other.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a multi part of cultures like backgrounds, and.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: Because because the term multi pot means like everybody's blending
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: into one, whereas mosaic is what the problem? But I
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: get what you're trying to say. It's just it's it's
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: the opposite of what you're trying to say.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: But the teacher, Hey.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: It's my job, man, It's what I try to I
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: try to help everybody feel. But no, you didn't mistake.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: You made a mistake and mistake.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I saw my tests growing up, so I'm well aware.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Well, go on, you weren't being tested on the right subject.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: On what I'm trying to say is it alludes to
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: what I said at the start of the episode, where
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: you know, we have a lot of cultures and stuff
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: in this country that you know that are very passionate
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: about this sport, and these are kids that are watching
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: this sport first besides the average Canadian kid, which is
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: like probably like random white kid in like the Prairies
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: or Ontario, because the average Canadian kid does not exist
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: in Quebec, the average Canadian kid does not exist in Montreal,
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: does not exist in Toronto, does not exist in Vancouver.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Where these whole city, Well, Montreal was supposed to be
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: a whole city, but I digress.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Where we're not.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: They're not all watching hockey these kids, I could speak
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: for Montreal or majority of them, I could, especially that
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: we have a lot of like North African nations starting
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: to immigrate here in Montreal, a lot of African nations
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: and a lot of European nations here that for most
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: of them, soccer is the first sport that they're watching.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: You know, then hockey will come along too, So take
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: advantage of that, find a way to grab these kids,
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: develop them, and you know, push them for soccer. I'm
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: just saying it's very interesting that majority of the I
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: would say majority, but a good portion of Team Canada
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: was players that developed through either Quebec or Montreal area
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: is or a bit of Toronto region ish, you know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like, despite Alfonso Davies being that generational
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: talent that came from a different country, I guess Belgium
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: just or my mom is going crazy, Nick. We have
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: relative we have relatives in Belgium, so that's that's nice
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: that the Gravani's there can celebrate.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: But but what I'm trying to say.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Is like, like there's a reason why because these cities
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: have a lot of these people that have that you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: passion for the sport. So get those guys like and
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: there's a reason why I've been doing better because they
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: got them here and developing them. And that's why we
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: love about seeing about the Supra where we like, which
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: we'd like to see about the Premier League and stuff
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: for Canada doing this and maybe Joey sappoots over there,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: can you know focus or you know, maybe delegate the
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: the CF Montreal to uh to somebody else to like
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: improve them.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Because Saliba. If I'm a mistaken Nick, please correct me.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: But I think the playoff can went to go see
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: there was Alistair Johnson, there was Saliba and there was
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: his mail Cony on the same field.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: No, uh, remember that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: Playoff game that we went to three years ago at
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: the Olympic Stadium, not the Olympic Stadium, at the at
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: the Statsuputro.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think I was there, but yeah, that twenty
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: twenty two team, there was Johnston, there was Miller, Tony Miller, Miller,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I forgot about Miller, Miller, Saliba if he was part
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: of the team, he didn't play much. He kind of
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: he kind of came after Saliba.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: So nonetheless, yeah, like yeah, and Piet you know, at
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: one point was actually like a like one of the
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: more decent midfields for Team Canada, right like he was
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: getting some starting minutes.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: Here and there.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: But nonetheless, it's like, like that's been treal for you.
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: So I'm not I'm not trying to put down other
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: Canadian cities, but like that's just an example of like,
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: get those kids. We have those kids in these cities.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: They're watching soccer first. They want to they want to
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: be a soccer star. And if Canada can find a
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: way to capitalize on those kids and bring them to
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: that point and elevate them, they're gonna sign up right away.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: For you guys, Yeah, no, I just again, these guys
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: brought up some great points.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I think, like if we're looking besides like what can
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: the future look like? I think even just the present
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: of the players that we do have. I think just
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: showing up in big moments is a big thing. Because
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: we said it last week and we we we we
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: didn't harp, but we we mentioned it. Our top players,
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: you know, barring some of some of them, you know,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: did not step up throughout this tournament in the way
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: that we thought and knew and knew that they could have.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want to circle Tejon Buchanan, but Tejon Buchanan, right,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: like Jonathan David take out the guitar game, what did
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: he do.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: In this tournament?
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: You know, even our other.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Strikers like Johnny would to last week like, didn't did
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: not perform right Like, It's it's it's these things like
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: that that they they're they're a bit.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: It's a bit on.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: It's just again unfortunate for me because I think on
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: a day where you know, maybe the flud gage do
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: open for a Jonathan David, maybe they do open for
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: a Promise David or a Kyle Aarron or tany Oloche.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: You know, Tejon Buchan does get a couple of assists,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: you know, does you know, create plays like the landscape
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: of this tournament could have been completely different for the team.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: So I think those those things definitely I would like
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: to see, you know, being able to to really step
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: up on the big moments because we're only gonna see
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: more big moments.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: To calm in the future, if if, if what we've
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: said up to now is is true and what we're
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: seeing is reality, I think only more big games and
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: big moments are gonna come for this national team, you know,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: down the line in future tournaments, if that be the.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: World Cup, if that be a Gold Cup, if that
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: be a Copa America going forward. So we're gonna have
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: to be ready for those big moments, uh, and be
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: able to perform in those big moments.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Does that start with the more you know, competitive friendlies. Maybe? Again,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I think it all depends on. It all comes down
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: to a mentality thing as well. It's just it's the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: way it is in football, especially you know, in the
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: attacking sense. So but yeah, hone in on on the MLS,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: hone in on the CPL. You know, like the guys
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: even said it, coming up coming down to Pearson, right
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: coming back from from from the tournament.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: There are players that that are down there, There is
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: young talent. There is a good young talent crop. Currently
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of the stars that were naming they are
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: still somewhat young, like they will some of them, like
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: I said, will be thirty or under by twenty thirty.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: It's still in that like Nick said, you know that
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: golden generation of your cultural prime, right, So we have
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: to be able to capitalize on these things.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: We I know, I know the.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Catillaria to goals Belgium, but we don't want to be
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: the Belgium ruining golden generation after golden generation for so
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: many tournament tournaments in a row.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: They did some great things, sure, and number one in
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, boo boo boo, but like we don't want to
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: be that we you know, but maybe despite despite this year,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: we don't want to be arsenal right, Like you know,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: we don't want to be you know, those types of
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: teams where you just have a golden generation and and
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: kind of just piss it through your hands.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: We want to be able to to break through of that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: And I think that the the tools are there, it's
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: if we pick them up and use them properly.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Is going to throw if if, if it's all worth it.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: But continue honing in on on on grassroots and everything
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: that is you know, football or soccer culture in this country.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Because Ontario and Quebec carried this team right, like it's
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: just a matter. It's obviously to us had some influence.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But if you really break it down, we know Ontario
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: has the big market. We know they have a lot
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: of players coming through.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Their their system, but watch off for Quebec man.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Honestly, as much as we maybe shout on this province,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: we have some good We have some good footballers coming
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: through the ranks and and who have shown it now.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: You know, looking back like and four years ago, you
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: know what do we have six six around six you
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: know Quebec? Uh, you know players that were tied to
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Quebec in this tournament, something that I didn't think was going.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: To be even possible. You know, going you know, you
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: know a hand four years ago.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: So continue continue with that and I think, uh, if
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: we get all these things correct, this guy's the limit
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: for this team, honestly, and again.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Don't be don't be scared to to fail either. I
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: think that's another thing with with with this national team.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: There will be hiccups, there will be bad performances, there
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: will be the what ifs, But continue to build. If
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: this tournament taught us anything, continue to build, continue to believe,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: continue to have that unity as a as a program,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: as a squad, as a as a coaching staff, as
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: a player. It's a brotherhood. We know it, we see it.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: It's it's evidence.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: So continue on that for this generation of players and
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: the next. And again, I know all the lot of
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: this is very easy to say, you know, from from
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: from sitting from sitting on our seats, but the bootprint
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: is there, and I think that you know, they have
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: a vision going forward and they're in good hands to
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: go forward.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Exciting times for soccer in Canada and exciting times for
• 59:21
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• 59:25
  Speaker 1: soccer on the.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Sixteen Canada guys, like nobody was thinking of this fucking
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: five years ago, seven years ago, ten years ago.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: So crazy.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: The last sixteen in the World Cup. Oh, it's an
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: expanded tournament. The last sixteen.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Last sixteen.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I don't care if expanded subtracted, it doesn't matter. Last sixteen.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, putting the exactly made it, made it further than
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the Netherlands and other teams that were eliminated around thirty two.
• 59:49
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• 59:52
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• 1:00:03
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