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Hour 3: George Washington Bridge Tragedy · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: You'll remember from yesterday the talk about the road rage
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  Speaker 1: on the George Washington Bridge. It was an awful, awful
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  Speaker 1: incident where two cars got into a ruckus for somehow,
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  Speaker 1: and one driver then opened fire into the car of
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  Speaker 1: the other driver, killing the driver of that car, 46-year-old
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  Speaker 1: Corin Irvine, a Con Edison working driver. and father from
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  Speaker 1: Valley Cottage, New York, who was just trying to go home.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a retired New York City police detective
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  Speaker 1: that shot him, Victor Romero. And Victor Romero entered a
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  Speaker 1: plea of not guilty yesterday to manslaughter charges. Manslaughter charges.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not the only thing the family is upset about.
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  Speaker 1: The family is also upset at the way he was treated.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see him do a perp walk in there
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  Speaker 2: just now? That was a modified perp walk, right? He
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  Speaker 2: had on a nice outfit. He looked clean cut. He
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  Speaker 2: looked very different from every other defendant that you saw
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  Speaker 2: in that courtroom before he was arraigned. So the preferential
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  Speaker 2: treatment is how he's presented to Judge McGrath.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Irvine family attorney, Keith White.
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  Speaker 2: Do any of you have a picture of Victor Romero?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So Victor Romero's complete identity was scrubbed from the Internet
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  Speaker 2: prior to him being arrested.
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  Speaker 1: Now, his sister, Zina Irvine, was also there at the courthouse,
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  Speaker 1: and she couldn't hold back her emotions.
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  Speaker 5: And to go home and have dinner.
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  Speaker 6: That same night, my brother was not able to have
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  Speaker 6: dinner with his children or his wife.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was unbelievably distraught, almost uncontrollably distraught. And you
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  Speaker 3: can imagine why. Just a random shooting on the George
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  Speaker 3: Washington Bridge and to find out that the person that
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  Speaker 3: fired the shots was retired NYPD?
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  Speaker 5: And to go home and have dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was her again. Listen, this case is going
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  Speaker 1: to make headlines now for a long time, especially the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he was only charged with manslaughter.
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  Speaker 7: Caron was on his way home from work, hard day's work,
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  Speaker 7: and stayed overtime. Yet you had a retired police officer
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  Speaker 7: intentionally fired a bullet and killed him and instead of
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  Speaker 7: it being murder it's called manslaughter.
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  Speaker 1: So that's Irvine's aunt Gail Ford now the difference between
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  Speaker 1: manslaughter and murder is only intent so they have judged
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  Speaker 1: that he had no intent to kill somebody when he
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  Speaker 1: fired a shot that he just wanted to scare people. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he did shoot into the back of the car, but
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  Speaker 1: if you shoot into somebody's car, there is a decent chance,
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good chance, that you're gonna kill somebody. So
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  Speaker 1: to say that just firing a gun into a car,
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  Speaker 1: there's no intent of killing someone, it probably wouldn't hold
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  Speaker 1: water in most cases. So, Curtis, I think that the
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  Speaker 1: attorneys are upset and the family is upset because of
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  Speaker 1: the charge more than anything else. They can see, as
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  Speaker 1: they said, that he was able to change clothes and
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  Speaker 1: had a better appearance than anybody else in the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: and that there was no perp walk for him. So
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  Speaker 1: they treated him differently. I get all of that. But
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  Speaker 1: when it gets to the charges, to make it manslaughter... Well,
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  Speaker 1: you may know this stuff better than I, because you've
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  Speaker 1: been around these criminals and the courtrooms much more than
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  Speaker 1: I have been.
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  Speaker 4: Does that make sense to you? Yeah, it's a bad look.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, this is Alvin Bragg. So
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  Speaker 4: this is not being prosecuted in New Jersey. Remember, the
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  Speaker 4: shooting happened on the ramp in Manhattan, leading to the
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  Speaker 4: upper deck. And then, unfortunately, the victim, the Con Ed worker, crashed.
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  Speaker 4: into like a pole halfway across the bridge as he
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  Speaker 4: was trying to get to New Jersey to get help. Now,
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  Speaker 4: this guy recklessly pulls his revolver out. Now, remember, he
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  Speaker 4: knows better than anyone. Not only is he a former
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  Speaker 4: detective who went out on three quarters disability because he
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  Speaker 4: was shot. He was in a firefight. protecting his family's
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  Speaker 4: laundromat in Bushwick years before. And there was three gunmen
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  Speaker 4: who came in to rob him. He pulled his revolver.
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  Speaker 4: He got shot in the chest. He got shot in
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  Speaker 4: the arm. They had to do extensive surgery. He then retired.
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  Speaker 3: But he was.
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  Speaker 4: involved with an executive service company where you're driving around
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  Speaker 4: high-profile executives and diplomats who are visiting. So you're generally
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  Speaker 4: pretty cool, calm, and collected. You have to be a
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  Speaker 4: good conversationalist. It's a high-end job. We don't know the
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  Speaker 4: exact details of what the dispute was, but My God,
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  Speaker 4: you pull a gun out, you shoot through the back window.
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  Speaker 4: It hits him in the shoulder, which normally you might survive.
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  Speaker 4: But then the bullet went like, you know, a spiral
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  Speaker 4: up into his head. And that's what ultimately killed him.
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  Speaker 4: And then you have the dimensions. The victim originally from
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  Speaker 4: Flatbush moves to Rockland for a better way of life, right?
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  Speaker 3: This is typically what happens.
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  Speaker 4: The African-American, obviously, you could hear a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a West Indian, Caribbean accent from some of the relatives.
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  Speaker 4: The guy, the police officer, former police officer, Victor Romero,
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  Speaker 4: he's obviously he's not African-American. So now you add the
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  Speaker 4: race component and the fact that D.A. Alvin Brown, turn
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  Speaker 4: them loose, Alvin Brown, he turns them all loose. You say, wow,
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think. I think what they could have
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  Speaker 4: done is because, you know, the former detective is going
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  Speaker 4: to ask for a bench trial.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't want a jury trial.
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  Speaker 4: You have a right to say a bench trial, meaning
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  Speaker 4: the judge makes a decision or the jury. But I
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  Speaker 4: think and I stand to be corrected. You could file
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  Speaker 4: two charges ultimately when you determine whether it's a jury
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  Speaker 4: or a bench trial.
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  Speaker 3: One for murder. One for manslaughter. Absolutely. And then let
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  Speaker 3: a jury or the bench judge decide. Absolutely. There's a
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  Speaker 3: bad feel about this. Let the jury decide intent. That's
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  Speaker 3: what you're saying, and that makes complete sense. The prosecutor
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't decide intent. We have no idea. Let him defend himself.
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  Speaker 3: Let him get up on the.
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  Speaker 1: Stand and say, I didn't intend to kill anybody, and
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  Speaker 1: then go through cross-examination when they say, well, when you
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  Speaker 1: fire into someone's car, what do you expect to happen?
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  Speaker 1: You must know that one of the outcomes would be
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  Speaker 1: you could kill somebody when you did that. You do
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  Speaker 1: understand that, right? And he's going to have to say yes.
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  Speaker 1: and then along with that would come some intent.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, look, I would welcome that, but you know his
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  Speaker 4: defense attorney will not allow him to get up and
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  Speaker 4: be cross-examined.
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  Speaker 3: You know that. And now the victim is dead. Were
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  Speaker 3: there any witnesses?
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  Speaker 4: Certainly there was nobody in either car that we know
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  Speaker 4: of who was an eyewitness. Maybe some drivers have called
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  Speaker 4: into the police department, the NYPD, you know, to give
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  Speaker 4: their version of what they saw. You know, as you
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  Speaker 4: come off the... You come off the West Side Highway. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's three lanes. You have the lower level.
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  Speaker 4: Then in the middle, you go into the Bronx, which
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  Speaker 4: is always confusing. And then you have the upper level.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure that they were jockeying for position. It's always
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  Speaker 4: happening over there.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently, and here's one of the problems, and I've been
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  Speaker 1: on the George Washington Bridge more times than I want
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  Speaker 1: to admit, but there is.
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  Speaker 3: A point where cars have to merge.
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  Speaker 1: And there, there's always problems, especially if somebody doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to give way. And it sounds like that's where this started.
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  Speaker 1: And it's very possible that the guy that got killed, Irvine,
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know that he had cut this guy off.
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  Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, he had somebody tailgating him,
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  Speaker 1: flashing their lights, getting right up on him. and then
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  Speaker 1: pulled up next to him and pushed him into the
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  Speaker 1: barricade in the middle. And so then they opened fire.
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  Speaker 1: So it is very possible.
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  Speaker 3: And we're never going to know, because now, unfortunately, this
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  Speaker 3: poor man's dead, Corin Irvine. He didn't even know what
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  Speaker 3: he did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're going to watch it play out. We'll
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  Speaker 4: obviously be covering it. Remember that story we were covering
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  Speaker 4: five days ago, horrible. For 53rd and 7th at the
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  Speaker 4: train station, the E train.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Where there was a dispute between the guy security guard
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  Speaker 4: from a hotel going up.
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  Speaker 3: He lived with his father in Highbridge.
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  Speaker 4: And then they were all points bulletin looking for this
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  Speaker 4: guy all dressed in red with the black mask. Well,
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  Speaker 4: the 17-year-old guy, it turned out, the guy who shot
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  Speaker 4: the 28-year-old guy turned himself in yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And apparently the dispute was about smoking marijuana.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: Without knowing the details, because I've been involved in situations
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  Speaker 4: like this on the platform and in the trains itself
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  Speaker 4: and moving cars. Probably this guy, the guy dressed in
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  Speaker 4: red with a black mask, was lighting up and the
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  Speaker 4: 28-year-old objectified. So they started fighting first on the E train.
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  Speaker 4: Then it went to the platform. Then apparently it went
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  Speaker 4: back into the train. The shot was fired. The 17-year-old fled.
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  Speaker 4: So he's turned himself in. Now, again, that one, there'll
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  Speaker 4: be lots of witnesses because the people who are on
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  Speaker 4: the train.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. But I got to tell you, over marijuana. It's silly.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a great lesson for everybody. Don't let
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  Speaker 1: these things escalate. And when you're on the road, this
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  Speaker 1: road rage stuff is getting way out of hand and
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  Speaker 1: it's not worth it. If somebody wants to get in
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  Speaker 1: front of you, let them. I don't know why that
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  Speaker 1: has to be a fight.
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  Speaker 3: Let them.
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  Speaker 1: It's not worth it. What are you going to save
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  Speaker 1: a minute? You're going to save 30 seconds, but this
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  Speaker 1: is what can happen. There are some irrational people on
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  Speaker 1: the roads and you may end up in a horrible
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  Speaker 1: car accident or this poor guy dead only because you
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  Speaker 1: were trying to hold your ground. Well, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: take a head turning turn right now because we want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the library issue. And the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they have one of the best Winnie the Pooh exhibits
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  Speaker 1: with some extremely valuable artifacts in the museum, excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: in the library here. And guess what? Great Britain wants
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  Speaker 1: it back. We'll tell you about that fight when we
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  Speaker 1: come back. Plus, you got a chance to see Journey next.
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  Speaker 1: White Crown has been in a battle with New York
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  Speaker 1: City Public Library for some time right now. And now
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  Speaker 1: on the 100th anniversary of Winnie the Pooh, the classic children's.
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  Speaker 3: Book written by A.L.
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  Speaker 1: Milne. Queen Camilla has gotten involved, and she would just
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  Speaker 1: like to borrow some of the artifacts that are now
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  Speaker 1: behind glass at the New York City Public Library. She
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  Speaker 1: wants them to come to England just for the celebration
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  Speaker 1: of the 100th anniversary of the book. Her Highness has
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  Speaker 1: been asking that the original Pooh be allowed to come
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  Speaker 1: back to Britain after decades behind glass of the Bryant
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  Speaker 1: Park branch in Manhattan, even offering lodging in some of
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  Speaker 1: the castles so that, you know, the everyday people can't
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  Speaker 1: get their hands on it. But she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: only want Winnie the Pooh. She wants Eeyore. She wants Piglet.
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  Speaker 1: She wants Conga. She wants Tigger. You see, these were
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  Speaker 1: all real stuffed animals. The book is written about A.L.
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  Speaker 1: Milne's son, Christopher Robin Milne. And these were all the characters.
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  Speaker 1: And the farm they lived on, that was the Hundred
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  Speaker 1: Acre Woods. And so all of this was just A
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  Speaker 1: father writing for his son and his father writing for
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  Speaker 1: his son as a gift and using everything that was
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  Speaker 1: already around him. So it's a beautiful story. And this
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  Speaker 1: has been a fight that's been going on for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. And this time they're not saying, Curtis, we
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  Speaker 1: want it back forever.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I don't trust them.
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  Speaker 4: Give them Ugots, give them Bupkis, Queen Camilla and the King.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, you know why they love those stuffed animals?
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  Speaker 4: The King is how old? Oh, he's like 78, not 80.
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  Speaker 4: He carries around his teddy bear from when he was
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  Speaker 4: a baby, a kid.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: He packs it, you know, his chair to charge or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: should be giving artifacts to so many countries around the world,
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  Speaker 4: which they stole items from, including the Parthenon in Greece.
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  Speaker 3: Greece is concentrated. You took parts of the Parthenon.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to the Royal Museum and you're
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  Speaker 1: in there and you're looking around and you're going, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, they didn't create any of this stuff. They
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  Speaker 1: just stole all this stuff, everything there.
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  Speaker 4: I would say give them ugats until they start returning
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  Speaker 4: some of those other artifacts to the rightful places that
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  Speaker 4: they belong. because I don't trust the king and queen
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  Speaker 4: to say, well, we'll put them on loan to us,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just for the occasion, the anniversary, and then
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  Speaker 4: we'll send them back. I know what they'll say. It
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  Speaker 4: got lost in passage, and the queen married, too, across
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  Speaker 4: the Atlantic. I don't trust them.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good argument, but listen, I think they
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  Speaker 1: should just lend them to them, and then let it
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  Speaker 1: be a big fight afterwards in getting them back, but
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  Speaker 1: you're right. They've They have a bad reputation when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to taking things and not giving them back.
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  Speaker 3: So I get the argument. Let's get to some talkbacks.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, Larry, it doesn't matter how much Kamala slows down
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  Speaker 9: her speech.
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  Speaker 10: It will never be as slow as her brain.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that is so good.
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  Speaker 4: No matter how much she slows down her speech, it'll
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  Speaker 4: never be as slow as her brain.
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  Speaker 3: I can see why they want to slow it down, though.
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  Speaker 6: The ad playing in Ohio with her mother talking, warning
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  Speaker 6: everyone against her daughter and about how mean and how
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  Speaker 6: unfair it is getting family members involved. It's terrible with
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  Speaker 6: the Democrats all up in arms about this. What about
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  Speaker 6: all the Democrats from the Kennedy family who came out
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  Speaker 6: about Robert Kennedy when he was running for president? And again,
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  Speaker 6: when he was going to be secretary of the Department
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  Speaker 6: of Health, they came out with all these mean ads
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  Speaker 6: why he shouldn't do it and how terrible he was.
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  Speaker 6: That double standard is something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're breaking every rule, especially with Donald Trump. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the way they went after him because they were afraid
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  Speaker 1: he was going to run again. is outlandish and, and
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  Speaker 1: there should have been criminal charges. I mean, it was horrible, horrible. And,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was so easy to spot what they
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  Speaker 1: were doing, that it was all political. I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: they raided his home, a president, they didn't give him
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  Speaker 1: any notice. Remember when they went into Biden's house, they
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  Speaker 1: let him know, they let him know, Hey, guess what?
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  Speaker 1: We're coming in. We're doing this with Trump. They not
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  Speaker 1: only went in there and looked through Melania's underwear drawers.
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  Speaker 1: But they made the whole family leave. No, this is
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  Speaker 1: nothing compared to what the Democratic Party has done.
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  Speaker 4: Lose the midterms over this dumb ad of a woman
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  Speaker 4: who was raped by her stepfather. There's documentary evidence. And
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  Speaker 4: the mother, the biological mother, fled with her stepfather to
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  Speaker 4: Pennsylvania and had both children taken from her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not one midterm will be dependent on this except
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  Speaker 1: possibly Ohio. But none of the rest will be infected.
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  Speaker 1: involved with this at all. Let's get to Daria Albinger
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  Speaker 1: with the 830 News.
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  Speaker 11: All right, sunny and cooler today with a high of
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  Speaker 11: 58 degrees, and it's only going to be in the
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  Speaker 11: 50s this weekend. Fall is definitely here. The City Council
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  Speaker 11: passed a bill which winds down the horse carriage industry
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  Speaker 11: here in New York by 2028. More from Channel 7's
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  Speaker 11: Kimberly Richardson.
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  Speaker 5: Part of the bill requires the city to come up
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  Speaker 5: with a transition plan for drivers, including helping them find
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  Speaker 5: jobs over the next two years.
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  Speaker 3: The city will not hear. Please mute her mic. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: But critics call the bill unconstitutional for banning a licensed industry.
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  Speaker 11: The bill, which was passed by a veto-proof margin, now
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  Speaker 11: heads to Mayor Mamdani for his signature. A retired NYPD
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  Speaker 11: detective who was accused in this week's deadly drive-by on
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  Speaker 11: the GWB is being held on a million dollars bail.
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  Speaker 11: Victor Rowan is charged with manslaughter. He pleaded not guilty
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  Speaker 11: to firing a single fatal shot that killed Coran Irvine.
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  Speaker 11: After their vehicles nearly collided, Irvine's family had fought for
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  Speaker 11: murder charges for Rowan. A 17-year-old is in custody in
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  Speaker 11: a connection with that fatal shooting on a Manhattan subway
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  Speaker 11: platform last weekend. The teen faces murder and weapons charges
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  Speaker 11: and the death of Daryl Rodriguez on the E-Train platform.
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  Speaker 11: Police believe the incident began as a dispute over smoking
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  Speaker 11: marijuana on a train. And the fare enforcement teams are
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  Speaker 11: being removed from MTA buses for now.
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  Speaker 9: Those MTA teams, known as EGLE teams, that stands for
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  Speaker 9: Evasion and Graffiti Lawlessness Eradication, got the ink Thursday from
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  Speaker 9: MTA Chair Chano Lieber.
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  Speaker 3: He cited two incidents.
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  Speaker 9: In August, EGLE team members disarmed a man who came
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  Speaker 9: at them with a knife under the Gun Hill Road
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  Speaker 9: subway station in the Bronx, but the EGLE team never
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  Speaker 9: reported it. Earlier this month, team members stopped a Brooklyn
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  Speaker 9: school aide for proof he paid his fare. He was
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  Speaker 9: knocked unconscious. Lieber says he'll decide if and when Eagle
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  Speaker 9: teams are allowed back on buses. Andrew Whitman, WOR News.
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  Speaker 11: The Devils and Islanders win. The Rangers lost last night.
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  Speaker 11: The Knicks are in Boston tonight. Next news, 9.30, 9 o'clock.
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  Speaker 11: Bulletin's at once. I'm Daria Albinger on 710 WOR.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations to Keith Hope from Newburgh. You just won a
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: pair of tickets to see Journey, November 7th at Nassau Coliseum.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Tickets on sale now at Ticketmaster.com. Next week, tickets to
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: see comedian John Mullaney.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Mullaney.
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  Speaker 8: Mullaney.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Mullaney, thank you. Up next, we'll see if Joe Neumeier...
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Our movie reviewer.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Has done the voluminous homework that I've left him to
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: do because he has avoided doing it at all costs.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: We're going to call that deadbeat on the movie review
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: up next.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, it's.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Joe Neumeier on the line, our movie guy. And Joe,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: don't give me the excuse that the dog ate your homework.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: A while back, I said, hey, Mr.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Movie Reviewer, a lot of attention to this must documentary.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: In fact, wow, the Academy Award winning director, Alex.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Gibney, four hours. I even said you could.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Bifurcate it you know look at an hour each time
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: and you know you did bupkis right.
• 19:56
  Speaker 12: Come on joe You know, Curtis, it meant so much
• 19:59
  Speaker 12: to me and it was so important to me that
• 20:00
  Speaker 12: I put it off until very late last night. And
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: I know you gave me the assignment a couple of
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: weeks ago, but I saw all four hours and I'm
• 20:08
  Speaker 12: going to talk about every minute of it right now.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: Oh, no.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: He's born a poor child.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: No, no.
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  Speaker 8: So, yes, I did watch all four hours. I don't know.
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: You know, I don't think I learned much about the
• 20:29
  Speaker 12: guy that I didn't really know before, except it's a
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: little deeper, a little creepier. He thinks we're all living
• 20:35
  Speaker 12: in a video game simulation. Sadly, not Donkey Kong or
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: Pac-Man or one of the fun ones. He seems, you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: as nuts as you sort of think he is. He's
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: in the news today. I don't know if anything needs
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: to be four hours. I mean, he's not Lawrence of Arabia,
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: so I don't really think he needs four hours because
• 20:52
  Speaker 12: figure this clown out. It does have an intermission, like
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: Lawrence of Arabia. So if you want to, you want
• 21:01
  Speaker 12: to sit and watch it. It's in theaters now. It'll
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: be streaming on Amazon in a couple of weeks. I'm
• 21:05
  Speaker 12: not sure when. You can pre-order it. But it's, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 12: it does have an intermission.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 12: I don't think it really tells you much. I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 12: that it kind of goes into depth.
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: A little bit.
• 21:15
  Speaker 12: And you're sort of like, oh, you know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: He is as weird.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: How many stars would you give it?
• 21:22
  Speaker 12: I would give it two, but I also think that
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: it could have gotten, if it was two hours, it
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: really could be 90 minutes. But if it had been two,
• 21:31
  Speaker 12: Alex Gibney goes in depth on these things, and he's
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: a good documentarian. But I really don't think you need
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: all of the levels that it goes to. And I
• 21:38
  Speaker 12: don't care listening to his ex-girlfriends, his baby mamas talk
• 21:42
  Speaker 12: about his kids. Yeah, I don't need that.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: How often were you cursing Curtis as you were watching it?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: Well, I do that anyway, but I was like, ah.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Now, while you were.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: I did that while I was watching Clayface.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Now, Joe, while you were talking, your voice was frazzled
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: for a second. Are you sure that wasn't Starlink interfering
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: with your communication because.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: You dare even.
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: I think it might... There you go.
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: See, he's messing up with our stuff already. He knows
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: when people are, because we're living in a simulation. He
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: actually thinks, this was something I didn't know, which is
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: that he does think that the simulation we're living in,
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: I hope I don't fuzz out now because this is important,
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: is created by future people creating a simulation that we're
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: all living in based on stuff from humanity's past. So
• 22:31
  Speaker 12: he's not just sort of thinking it's like the Matrix
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: or something. He's really thought this out. So he's really
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: got it figured out. So he thinks that it's from
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: the future people are creating the simulation we're all living in,
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: which I don't know. Maybe that explains why.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely watching it now.
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: He totally is. And they do talk to that. You
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: know what?
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: The one thing I'll say, they talked to his dad
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: and you, you know how you can really kind of
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: figure people out when you talk to their parents, when
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: his dad comes on, you go, Oh, I get it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: Okay. Like the, The nutsy runs deep. And so.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: You'll see it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Nutsy, but also, yeah, you give him some credit. The
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: guy's a genius. I mean, the things that he's been
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: able to create.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: He's a little odd, but still.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah. But yeah, it's, I'm not sure at what cost,
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm not sure.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: At what cost or how much it makes him.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: Well, it's made him a lot of money. At what cost?
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: Do the cons outweigh the pros? I think that's one
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: thing that this movie tries to get into. It does
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: talk about everything that he's done in terms of the
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: Teslas and the self-driving cars, which just killed somebody else
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: in California just yesterday. Are there advances that he makes?
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Sure. Are they worth the cost? I don't know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I think you should have recused yourself from.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: from going ahead and being a critic on the documentary
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you like them at all.
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: Well, but, but that's an interesting point because you can
• 24:05
  Speaker 12: go into a documentary and think, well, this per, I
• 24:07
  Speaker 12: don't really like this person, but you can learn things
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: that maybe, you know, change your mind about them. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 12: there were things that I, I thought in the documentary,
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: I found, you know, they show a lot of his
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: early days, uh, in like the nineties, you know, uh,
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: at startups and things like that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: And he really sort of.
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: Seems to have a purity of vision and, And I
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: think that's sort of gotten for whatever reason, I'm not
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: a sociologist and I'm not a politician, but it seems like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: you know, it's sort of has gotten, he's like a
• 24:29
  Speaker 12: James Bond villain, you know, like they all think they're
• 24:31
  Speaker 12: doing the right thing. Oh, a colony in space, uh,
• 24:34
  Speaker 12: an underwater world, you know, uh, you.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Know, beware of Starlink.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: It's going to be, it's going to be shadowing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: That sounds like a James Bond film.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: My other homework assignment. My other homework assignment to you,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I loved Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Nation of Kazakhstan by Sacha Baron Cohen, also known as
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Ali G. He's got a new movie out. It's being
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: promoted everywhere. Did you have a chance to check out
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: the flick?
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: I sure did.
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: I've seen it, and I like it, and I think
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: it's not as good as the second one, Borat, the
• 25:11
  Speaker 12: subsequent movie film, which we'll just show. We'll just call
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: it that. Borat's subsequent movie film is like the Citizen
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: Kane of those movies, the one from 2020.
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: It's fantastic. This one's really good, too, though. I think
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: it's really... I didn't really.
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: Like, I find the character fine when he was on HBO.
• 25:25
  Speaker 12: I think he's kind of funny.
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: He really... Like, this is really good, though. I think
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: that the.
• 25:29
  Speaker 12: I gotta say the full name, you know, Ali G,
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: who is I, is fun. And if you like that
• 25:34
  Speaker 12: kind of stuff, where he really kind of... does a
• 25:36
  Speaker 12: candid camera thing and gets people who are not aware
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: that he's playing a character. He, there are also sequences
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: in here guys that you don't even understand how he
• 25:44
  Speaker 12: does them where he's like three characters all at the
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: same time. And it's sort of a magic of editing
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: and filmmaking. They really do an amazing job of it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: So I, yeah, I liked it a lot. I'd give
• 25:54
  Speaker 12: it a solid four stars for allergy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: Who is I? It's really funny.
• 25:57
  Speaker 12: And it's a, and it's a, for what he, this
• 25:59
  Speaker 12: kind of stuff that he does, it's not Borat to
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: Borat subsequent.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: Movie film, But it's really good. So I liked it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: He's such a good actor. He could do the remake
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: of Sybil, right? Multiple characters and personalities.
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: That's right. The Sally Field TV film. Exactly. He could
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: do 16 characters in one.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: So after the huge success of Spider-Man, are superhero movies
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: back now?
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: Well, this Clayface movie that's out now is not a success.
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: I didn't like it. But I mean, it's sort of
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: this thing that they're trying to do, which is create
• 26:33
  Speaker 12: movies around villains. I think they want it to be
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: like Venom, like the Venom movies, who is a villain
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: of Spider-Man. So Clayface was a villain of Batman, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 12: I remember him from reading comics when I was eight
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: years old. The character actually goes back to the 40s,
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: but this film is not good. It's kind of body
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: horror stuff, but it's a guy who's an actor whose
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: face gets messed up, and he goes to a a
• 26:58
  Speaker 12: shifty scientist which is always we should know this you
• 27:01
  Speaker 12: don't go to the shifty scientist the you know like
• 27:04
  Speaker 12: the joker did that in the first batman movie you
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: don't go to those guys they're like in a dark
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: alley and uh and he gets stuff injected into his
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: face and his face starts melting i don't know i
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: give it i give it one star it's got some
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: good special effects but uh but i wouldn't i wouldn't
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: rush out to see clay face we'll see if it
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: makes any money i think people go for it for
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: the halloween time stuff right it's a scary movie essentially.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: We're running out of time, but I'm sure you want
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to say something about Tom Skerritt, who passed away.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what?
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: He's one of those actors that you see when you
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: were watching movies as a kid. The original MASH film,
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: he's great in Alien. Top Gun, he's in charge of
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: the Top Gun program, and A River Runs Through It,
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: which is a really wonderful film. So, R.I.P., 93 years old,
• 27:45
  Speaker 12: great character actor, and really terrific in so many movies
• 27:48
  Speaker 12: of the 70s and 80s, and early 90s. Really great actor,
• 27:51
  Speaker 12: I thought. Nice character actor.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Joe Neumeier, film journalist, W.R., Movie Minute host. We'll see
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you again next week. Thanks a lot, Joe.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: Take care, guys.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Just real quick, I want.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: To thank the Royal Sweet Fairy, which is a New
• 28:04
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• 28:09
  Speaker 1: who is here with quite a spread today, and we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: have been feasting on it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable. You can catch the Royal Street Fairy once again
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  Speaker 3: on the upcoming series of Bravo's hit series, The Real
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Housewives of New Jersey, where they continually order from them
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: and showcase their product on the show. So thank you.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Now, what's the over-under point spread? What does PolyMarket say
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: in all your gambling positions of whether Paris will burn
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: down or not tomorrow? They've imposed a partial curfew. I
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: can tell you from experience, Larry, partial curfews don't work.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: The idea is complete curfew because then you can't even
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: assemble to begin with. Once you assemble and you start moving,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And maybe some of the members of the demonstration have
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: a different rationale for being there than you do. You
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: want your voice to be heard, but they want to
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: loot and they want to take advantage. How do you
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: then get them off the streets? And we've seen that
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: with the batons, the water cannons, the gas. So knowing
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: that everybody is going to go out to the streets tomorrow,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: if nothing more, just to see it, to see the spectacle.
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Have a complete curfew so that people cannot assemble, because
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: if you don't, at a certain point, some may rampage.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: We saw that during our George Floyd demonstrations. Remember, by day, oh, kumbaya,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and then at night, all of a sudden, shooting, vandalizing, shot.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: poor wawas went out of business in downtown Philadelphia. They
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: took everything off the shelves. That would be my suggestion. Yeah,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: this isn't going to go away anytime soon. It's spread
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: throughout Europe because they are now scrambling for space in schools.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: They're now scrambling for goods and services, and they don't
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: have the help from the government they think they should
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: be getting. So this is going to continue, and it's
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: just going to get worse. But the root of it
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: all is the immigration across the world. There's been a
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: huge immigration influx around the world, and nobody knows how
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: to pay for it. And many, many people, not just America,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: just opened its borders, and they're paying the price for
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: that now. Well, let me thank the Quiet Storm, Chris,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: for substituting for Natalie today, because we're going to talk
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: with her on Monday. The nick rings that she is
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: obsessed with, some of them were never delivered.
• 30:40
  Speaker 13: Oh, wow.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: And then, plus, we had those flip iPhones, people already
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: lining up for 72 hours.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: What are they, freaking out of their minds? A lot
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: to talk about on Monday. Yeah, on Monday.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And the talk back in the morning, and the winner
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of the Curtis Lee and Larry Mendte in the morning
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: t-shirt thinks he knows why a Maine poll ranked Connecticut
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: so low in the pizza standings.
• 31:01
  Speaker 13: Maine's got a sandy crotch about Connecticut, because Connecticut eats
• 31:05
  Speaker 13: their lobster hot with butter. Now, Maine, you know, they're
• 31:10
  Speaker 13: solid people. They put the mayonnaise and all that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Crap on it. So that's the problem.
• 31:15
  Speaker 13: That's why we're 16th in their heart.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I'm stealing he's got a Sandy crotch. That is such
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: a great line.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And the Talkback of the Week and winner of the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Sea Crane Radio is not suffering from the fatigue that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: many Americans are feeling.
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: You talk about fatigue.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I have the opposite.
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: I am quite like Curtis. The most hours of sleep
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: I can get barring any crazy nightly activity, is about
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: four to five hours. That's why I call you up
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: so amped up, so ready to go right away. I
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: am telling you, if I get four hours of sleep,
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: I'm lucky.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, deep sleep.
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: Hey, have a great show, guys.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Woo!
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: Let's go!
• 31:57
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