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S1E17 - 'Protect Me From What I Want' · Dished at Birth

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DANI: I got my aura read at a press party the other night.
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KARA: What'd they say?
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DANI: Well, it was a weird process.
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I thought that they literally just take your picture, but they like have your,
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they put your hands on like these metal.
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Honestly it was kind of giving Scientology.
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KARA: Oh, like the
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DANI: Yeah,
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KARA: It's not the thesis.
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It's a-
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DANI: I don't know what they're called, but I have held them.
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KARA: That's very LA of you.
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DANI: I went with my friends for our community college photography class
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to take pictures of Scientologists.
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So the Scientology Museum in, well there's lots of them, but the, like Scientology
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headquarters on Hollywood Boulevard.
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I don't know if it's still here in this capacity.
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KARA: Is it the big blue building?
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DANI: Yeah.
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Big blue one.
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They have in their basement a full museum.
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KARA: Oh.
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DANI: That like you can, that we at the time signed up and took a private tour of.
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KARA: Wow.
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DANI: That was an option.
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Now, obviously the private tour is to convince you to join Scientology.
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KARA: Of course.
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DANI: And I kind of thought this was dumb with me.
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I didn't really understand.
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I thought that we would kind of be given free roam of the museum.
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And so I brought my camera 'cause I was like, oh this is perfect.
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The assignment was like to photograph a culture that's like very separate
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from your own or something,
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KARA: Uh-huh.
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DANI: So I was like, perfect, I'm gonna photograph.
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KARA: You thought you could open like a secret door and then just walk around?
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DANI: No, I thought that they'd be like, it would be like a museum
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where they'd be like, and thank you and please enjoy yourself.
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And then we'd get to just walk around.
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No but there was a guide with us the entire time.
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KARA: Well they're hiding people in there.
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That's why.
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DANI: Well, I don't think they're hiding anyone in that particular location.
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'cause that is like the tourist doing, 'cause I've also kind of
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been in there a lot of times.
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I'm probably on some list, but I also took a boy that I was dating in high
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school there one time, but they had like a, a room full of DVDs about
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Scientology that you could just take.
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KARA: Right.
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DANI: Like it was like a BlockBuster level collection.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: In the back of this building.
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So like the top floor, you could kind of just walk around.
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KARA: Right.
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DANI: Because then I brought the Scientology DVDs home and then me and
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the boy I was dating watched them.
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KARA: And was it like, you should join 'cause we were awesome?
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DANI: It was like more insidious than that.
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More subtle.
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It was just like documentaries about like faux science, but like it was real.
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And actually the worst part was my friend and I, we brought her little cousin
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who was 16 at the time and we did not prep her beforehand about Scientology.
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We were just like, oh, we're gonna go to this like kind of silly museum.
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KARA: Okay.
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DANI: And then cut to an hour and a half into this three hour private guided tour.
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KARA: Wow.
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DANI: Yeah.
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It was a big commitment.
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Like it was like this woman was being held hostage clearly.
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Like you are right that they're keeping people in there, but they're
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the people working the front desk.
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KARA: Yes.
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DANI: She was having us try holding the metal
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prong things that tell you about your emotions or whatever.
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And it like makes the machine swing as you answer questions.
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KARA: It begins with the T. It's like, it's not thesis reader.
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It's like something reader.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: We should Google it, but I don't want to, 'cause I don't wanna like
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awaken my name on the list again.
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KARA: The algorithm does not need to know.
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DANI: Yeah.
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But she was like, wow, this is really amazing.
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And then we left and she was like, Scientology's kind of cool guys.
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And we were like, oh no, they got you.
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'cause you're 16 and your brain's malleable.
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KARA: No.
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DANI: I know.
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She's okay.
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I think.
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KARA: Okay, good.
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So what did your aura reading have?
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DANI: Oh yes.
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My aura reading was like, honestly, she kind of nailed it, but I just don't
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believe, I just feel like those people are really good at like, first of all,
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we were at a press event where everyone there was an influencer or a writer.
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KARA: Mm-hmm.
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DANI: And so.
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They could easily deduce.
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They were like, oh, you're a creative of some kind.
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KARA: Yeah, no shit.
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DANI: What kind?
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And I was like, oh, I'm a writer.
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And then from there it informs, you know, the way they kind of read it.
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So they were like, you're working on something right now.
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Like you're really in your head about it, but you're in the manifestation phase
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and you're gonna produce it sounds like.
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And so that was like my orange.
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I was like really orange.
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I will say before we took the photos, like way before, DANIelle asked me what
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colors I thought my aura would be, and I said, people always tell me orange.
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And she was like, that's so funny.
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I would've told you yellow, I think.
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And then, so my colors were orange, yellow like a bluey purple above me and
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then like a green area in my chest area.
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But I was wearing green, so I'm like, did the machine just pick up on the fact that
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I was wearing green and like project it?
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KARA: That's fascinating.
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DANI: Honestly, my biggest complaint about the process was.
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They put them, the hand plates like quite low in the booth,
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but then they make you stand.
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I was like, hunched over.
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KARA: That would've been fine for me.
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You're just too tall.
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I saw Death Becomes Her on Tuesday.
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DANI: Oh my God.
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How was it?
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KARA: It was good.
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DANI: So was my theory right, that you should look up the lyrics ahead of time?
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Because I could not understand what the fuck they were saying.
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KARA: So I was like in the back of the orchestra, and the first act, there's
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an intermission, the first act I hear 10% of everything they're saying.
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I was like, that's unfortunate.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: But I was like, you know what?
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The dancers are good.
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The vibes are pretty.
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I'm sort of catching on to what's happening because.
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You know, it's very theatrical.
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It's very acty.
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So yeah, I'm watching and I'm like, oh, okay.
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She stole the husband.
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Great.
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Okay.
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She's gonna take the potion.
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Great.
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DANI: It's not a hard show to follow.
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KARA: It's, it's not hard to follow.
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DANI: It's no Slam Frank.
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KARA: But then intermission happens.
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I go get a snack with Leo.
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Hi Leo, if you're listening.
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And then in this tiny, tiny little corner, they say, captioning available.
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And I'm like, so no one, there's nothing at the entrance?
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So I go talk to this woman.
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I'm like, hi, I see you have captioning.
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And she was like, yeah, you have to download the app.
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It took the full intermission to download this stupid GalaPro app.
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I hate this app.
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DANI: Also, don't make people who need captioning have to be
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on their phones during the show.
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KARA: Open the app.
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Download an app, open an account in an old building where there's
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no wifi because everyone is using their phones at intermission, right?
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Like there's no data.
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DANI: Oh my God.
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KARA: So I was like frantically using my 15 minutes of intermission
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to download this app and then I had to connect to like the theatre
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wifi and they gave me a password.
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I'm doing that.
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And then the captions worked about 70% of the time.
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The other 30%, it was either too fast or too slow.
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Overall.
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Not my favorite experience.
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But the show itself was great.
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Like I would love to see it again with ASL or some other better access.
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I was so scared to use my phone.
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This was fine because I was in the back of the orchestra.
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But Patti LuPone was in like a play of musical a couple years ago.
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Fairly recent.
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DANI: Likely place for her to be.
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KARA: Likely place for her to be.
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But someone in the front where she could see was using the phone to read captions.
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And she thought the audience member was just on their phone being stupid
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and she called them out, stopped the play and called them out.
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Extremely unprofessional, but then she made herself look so stupid
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because this person was just reading the captions for this play and that,
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friends, is my worst nightmare.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: I was in row V at the orchestra, so I knew no one was gonna
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see me, but I was like, what if?
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I was afraid someone behind me was gonna be like, excuse me, get off the phone.
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DANI: Right.
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Well, and the thing is, is like I've said that to people in theaters before, but
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like what, especially for like ushers and stuff, like I've been to shows
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where the ushers are really strict.
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First of all, I think that they need to have real captioning devices,
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although those don't really work either.
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So first they need to make a captioning device that works.
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KARA: Or ASL interpretation at more than one show.
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I saw Oh Mary with ASL interpretation.
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I think that's been the only show booked for Oh Mary with ASL interpretation and
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the show's been on for two years now.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: There’s a lot of organizing, to be fair, especially when
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there's multiple characters, and I'm sure musicals even harder.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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KARA: Because Oh Mary, they hired four interpreters, I think three
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or four, and you know, they have to coordinate with the actors and whatnot.
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But then once do that-
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DANI: but it seems once you've done that, all that work, then
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they should make that like,
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KARA: yeah, you put the same amount of effort in as you would
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rehearsing to do a Broadway show.
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DANI: Right.
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So why not do it for just one night?
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KARA: All that work.
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For just one night.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Yeah.
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I love supporting the theater industry.
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I just wish they made it a little easier for me.
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DANI: Absolutely.
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Also, if you haven't seen a show with ASL interpretation or like a show like
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Deaf West where it's completely woven in.
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KARA: Mm-hmm.
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DANI: To the story.
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It's amazing.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: Highly recommend.
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KARA: Even if you don't need the ASL interpretation.
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DANI: No.
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KARA: If you see, like if you live in New York and you see that like Chicago
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or something has ASL interpretation, but you don't care about ASL, you
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should buy the ticket for that day to encourage them to continue doing that.
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DANI: Okay.
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Good to know.
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'cause I so far have been hesitant to do that because in my mind, if
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it sells out, I don't wanna take a seat from someone who genuinely is
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not gonna enjoy the show otherwise.
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KARA: When you sit, it's a very designated area, like in
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front of the ASL interpreter.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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KARA: So if you don't need the ASL interpreter, maybe don't get a seat
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at, I don't know, stage right, row G.
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DANI: Right.
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Okay.
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Got it.
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KARA: But like if you go get anywhere else and you just support
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that night, I think that's huge.
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DANI: Good to know.
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KARA: Okay.
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Do you wanna get to the show?
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DANI: Let's do it.
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KARA: This is season one, episode 17.
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Protect Me From What I Want
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DANI: Okay.
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I did not Google the painting.
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KARA: This is Jenny Holzer.
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This is the very first contemporary art piece that the show has referenced,
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and this aired February 14th, 2012, Valentine's Day, which is very timely
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considering what happens in this episode.
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DANI: Tell me.
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KARA: Because Bay and Emmett say love you to each other at the end.
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DANI: I hated that.
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KARA: We'll get to it.
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DANI: I hated it.
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He's being such a baby.
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KARA: He is being kind of a dick.
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DANI: Like Bay deserves better, but then also, yeah.
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Okay.
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They're like, they're fighting about Ty.
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KARA: He's gone months ago.
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Anyway.
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It’s Jenny Holzer.
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Do you know who she is?
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DANI: You keep saying that name.
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I think I should, but I, I don't in this moment.
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KARA: She's like a contemporary artist.
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She's still alive.
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She did like a lot of public art with the, these truisms or just like random quotes
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also referenced in this episode because the art gallery guy, Patrick mentions her.
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DANI: Oh my God.
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Okay.
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KARA: So I think that's why they named this episode Protect Me from What I Want.
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DANI: Okay.
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I have a question for you that I'm scared to ask and answer.
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KARA: Please.
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DANI: Do we think that every single episode has made some subtle, but like
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also direct reference to the paintings and we're just picking up on them now?
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Or do you think they just decided to start doing this?
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KARA: I think they just decided to start doing this.
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DANI: I'm getting increasingly nervous that we've just missed the first 15.
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Obviously in the first episode it's, This is Not a Pipe.
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KARA: Right.
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They reference-
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DANI: and they're very, they're very direct about that.
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KARA: Expulsion from the Garden of Eden.
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They never directly reference the art piece or the artist.
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We just know that Angelo was expelled.
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DANI: That's true.
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I do think Bay makes some kind of comment like, you think he's the devil.
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I don't wanna-
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KARA: So what if he’s the devil?
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DANI: Exactly.
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KARA: At least the devil has a job.
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DANI: I need you to watch that episode now.
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KARA: I will.
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Okay.
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Well we start off with Buckner.
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This coach is once again in the girls' locker room.
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DANI: Yeah.
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Why?
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KARA: This male coach?
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I hate him.
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He sucks in this episode and just in general.
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He sucks, but he's like, by the way, basketball playoffs are coming
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up and you girls are going to do scrimmages against one another.
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And Daphne is going to be going for small forward.
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And Simone is gonna be going for point guard.
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That's all we need to know right now.
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DANI: Okay.
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Thank you for handling that.
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When it got to all the basketball stuff I said
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KARA: Yeah, I was like,
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DANI: KARA’s got it.
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KARA: I got you.
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I got you.
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DANI: I did write down Daphne saying nobody's better at posting up than she is.
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That really got me.
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KARA: I had to remind myself what posting up is .Basically you just,
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so you dribble the ball, okay, and you go to the basket, right?
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And then posting up is just going to one side of the basket and you just like have
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your feet spread and you're trying to be firm on your feet and then go on your feet
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and get the ball on the hoop, basically.
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DANI: And they needed to hire a private coach to teach Daphne how to do that?
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KARA: It does take some skill.
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It takes a lot of footwork.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: Small forwards also have to do a lot of rebounds.
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Rebound just means getting the ball in case it doesn't go in the hoop.
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You have to get it and then throw it back in the hoop.
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Hopefully.
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That's the goal.
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DANI: Wow.
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I'm learning so much.
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KARA: Yeah.
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Anyway, we're at the Kennish house now.
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DANI: And Emmett's back.
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KARA: Emmett's back, eating them out house and home.
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DANI: He's a growing boy.
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KARA: He's got like a whole basket of grapes and cheese
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and crackers and whatnot.
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DANI: Basically charcuterie.
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KARA: Yeah.
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He's eating just like a glorified charcuterie board, except
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everything's straight from the fridge.
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DANI: Deconstructed.
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KARA: Deconstructed charcuterie board.
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And Bay apologizes to him for yelling at him about his dad and he's like, whatever.
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This is... Another point.
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He's in a good mood.
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'cause he has his emotional support food.
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DANI: Yes.
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Oh my God.
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Emmett's always much happier when he is eating.
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KARA: Yeah.
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Also probably 'cause his father is not feeding him.
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DANI: Yes.
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Because Bay then says.
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KARA: Like they don't feed you at home.
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Either he has to cook for himself or he is just getting him takeout or something.
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DANI: We know Emmett is not cooking for himself.
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KARA: No, but the poor guy is hungry and he's a growing boy.
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Kathryn comes into the kitchen, she is thrilled to see him.
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And she's like, let me whip you up an actual dinner.
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Some rosemary garlic chicken, which sounds really good.
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DANI: That does sound nice.
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KARA: She says it only takes for 15 minutes, which sounds really fast to me.
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DANI: Yeah.
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That,
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KARA: but I also never cook chicken.
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DANI: Do we think Kathryn Kennish is a good cook?
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KARA: Yes.
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DANI: Think about-
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KARA: Chili?
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Maybe not the
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DANI: cultural context.
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KARA: I think she's good at like white people cooking.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: Rosemary and garlic are pretty, I think they can
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afford nice, fresh ingredients.
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So they use like a lot of fresh herbs and whatnot.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Like fancy, organic, free range chicken.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: And I think she's also Italian and she did mention her grandmother
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is from Italy and the Italians are notoriously pretty good at cooking.
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The fact that rosemary and garlic are going together, with this meal though,
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tells me that this might be pretty good.
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DANI: I mean, I think Emmett's gonna think it's delicious regardless.
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KARA: He's starving.
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DANI: He's starving.
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I'm just thinking about like how excited all the Kenne are when Daphne cooks now.
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KARA: Oh my God.
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That's right.
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DANI: So I guess it's my running theory.
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It's like, you don't care about the A Court of Thorns and Roses series?
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KARA: I never read it.
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DANI: Within the fandom, there's a running bit because the main character is like a
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painter, and that's like a huge arc for her is that she like, doesn't paint when
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she's in a bad place and then she starts painting again when she's in a good place.
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Anyway, the way that these paintings are described implies that she
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is not actually a good painter.
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KARA: I love that.
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DANI: It's a running bit in the fandom that she, everyone's just like pretending
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for her to support her journey.
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And that's kind of how I feel about Kathryn Kennish's cooking.
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KARA: Going back to the rosemary garlic chicken, Kathryn is signing up a storm.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: It's not that great, but she's trying.
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I really liked when she signed school like a crocodile.
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DANI: She's very stiff.
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She's a very stiff signer.
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KARA: But she's trying.
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DANI: Yeah.
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It's something that is true, I believe, to the actress because it remains
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true throughout the whole show.
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KARA: Yeah.
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Kathryn is signing to Emmett asking how's life?
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And then he's like good, taking classes.
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I'm taking a photography class at school right now and one of my assignments
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is, I actually have to take a family portrait pic, but I can't do my own
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family 'cause they're killing each other.
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So Kathryn's like, well, what if you took a family portrait of us?
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And Bay is acting like
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DANI: this is the
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KARA: worst idea in the idea in the world.
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But I think it's a sweet idea.
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DANI: Yeah.
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And he also says, yeah, he can't use his family and it's sad.
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And.
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KARA: Yeah, he starts miming like choking.
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And killing.
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DANI: And Bay's like, I didn't realize it was that bad.
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KARA: Yeah.
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He doesn't go into details, but it just seems like Cameron and Melody
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had a very tumultuous relationship.
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DANI: Yeah.
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But Bay is really against this, and Kathryn says it's either this or we
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could invite him to Sound of Music Night.
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KARA: And he could be Kurt.
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DANI: Okay.
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Is Kurt the one that becomes a Nazi?
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PAUSE. BOTH LAUGH.
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KARA: I'm Googling.
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DANI: The one in you are 16 going on 17, which by the way, now when
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hearing that song, concerning.
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KARA: Why?
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DANI: Innocent as a rose.
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KARA: Ew.
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DANI: And he's older.
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It's weird.
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KARA: Kurt's the youngest boy.
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DANI: Okay.
16:48
So no.
16:49
If he's a child, a Von Trapp child, then no.
16:51
KARA: Kurt is 10, but almost 11.
16:53
The youngest boy, Kurt, is sensitive and pretends not to
16:56
be hurt by his father's absence.
16:58
DANI: Guys, Kurt does not become a Nazi.
17:00
KARA: Well.
17:00
DANI: No.
17:01
'cause they all flee.
17:02
KARA: Well, it's Liesl.
17:03
Who's the daughter.
17:04
DANI: Yeah.
17:04
KARA: Who's the one that be-
17:05
DANI: The boy.
17:06
Which she's seeing.
17:07
KARA: Oh, Ralph Gruber.
17:08
DANI: Oh yeah, that's a Nazi name.
17:10
KARA: Yeah.
17:10
DANI: Yeah.
17:11
Tough.
17:12
KARA: Anyway, okay, next scene.
17:13
Regina's at the hair salon wearing purple yet again.
17:16
DANI: Yeah, I guess she's still working at Geraldo's even after.
17:19
KARA: Yeah.
17:20
DANI: I guess he never caught wind, that she fully signed
17:22
a lease and opened a salon.
17:24
KARA: Well, maybe she said, by the way, the salon didn't
17:26
work out and he said slay.
17:28
DANI: And he, and he hired her back.
17:29
I don't, I feel like he.
17:30
KARA: But he never fired her.
17:31
DANI: Yeah, but I. Yeah, you're right.
17:33
I don't know.
17:34
Whatever.
17:35
It happened off screen.
17:36
KARA: It happened off screen.
17:37
Anyways, she has a client, she's doing his hair.
17:39
His name is Patrick and he's a gallery owner and he sounds like he
17:43
just moved to Kansas City and he is hunting around for some artist to show.
17:47
Regina being a supportive mom for once, it's like, well, what if he
17:50
looked at my daughter Bay’s art?
17:52
She's very talented and cool.
17:53
DANI: Yeah, it was crazy even to hear her refer to Bay as her daughter.
17:57
KARA: I know.
17:58
DANI: I feel like we have not gotten this side of Regina's.
18:02
KARA: At all.
18:02
DANI: Motherhood as as of yet, so yeah, it was crazy.
18:06
KARA: It was.
18:07
DANI: And she shows him the mural that I guess they fixed
18:10
and guys, it's still ugly.
18:13
KARA: And he goes, it’s got some like Chicano socialist vibes.
18:16
DANI: Yeah, I guess I don't know enough about that specific art period to
18:20
comment if that's true, but to me it was giving like steam punk birthday card.
18:25
KARA: Ooh.
18:25
Yeah.
18:26
DANI: So, or like, you know, those crayon paintings that people made in the 2010s?
18:32
KARA: Like the melting?
18:33
Yeah.
18:33
DANI: Yeah.
18:33
Where you like take the hair dryer and you melt it.
18:35
Oh my God.
18:35
Wait,
18:36
KARA: I had, I did that.
18:37
DANI: I had to tell you.
18:38
KARA: Tell me.
18:38
DANI: Sorry guys and I don't think I'm gonna cut this.
18:41
I knew a woman when I was a teenager who was an artist who was
18:46
like a very LA pretentious like, husband was in the film industry.
18:51
She was like, we're well connected.
18:54
I'm having a gallery show.
18:55
You have to come.
18:56
And this was after knowing her for like a year, hearing about her art,
19:00
hearing about her being an artist.
19:02
So we go to the gallery show and it is wall to wall.
19:06
Those crayon art paintings.
19:08
KARA: No.
19:09
DANI: Yes.
19:09
All like preserved in resin like portraits of like tigers with melted crayon and
19:17
like sparkly like art that would be inside of a bad Vegas hotel off Strip.
19:23
KARA: I love that.
19:24
DANI: And I just had to be like completely straight faced about it.
19:28
So every time I see crayon art, I think of her.
19:30
KARA: Every time I think of art galleries and how weird
19:32
they are, I think of Fleabag.
19:35
Fleabag's stepmom who has that gallery.
19:38
DANI: That was kind of the vibe of this crayon artist lady.
19:42
KARA: Yeah.
19:43
Oh my God.
19:43
I gotta rewatch Fleabag.
19:45
Such a good show.
19:45
DANI: Yeah.
19:45
So good.
19:46
Anyway guys, so I felt like the mural was.
19:51
KARA: It does look like that.
19:52
DANI: A disappointment.
19:53
KARA: I remember distinctly hot gluing crayons to a white piece of
19:59
cardboard and then hair drying it and then drawing some shit over it.
20:03
DANI: Yeah.
20:04
KARA: Wow.
20:04
Yeah.
20:05
DANI: Rite of passage.
20:05
KARA: And then she like drew a cog.
20:07
DANI: Yeah.
20:08
KARA: Yeah.
20:08
That's her mural, guys.
20:10
Okay.
20:10
Now we're back at the Kennish House and we're in the kitchen
20:13
with John and Kathryn and Toby.
20:15
And Kathryn is interviewing Toby about the switch for her book.
20:19
DANI: Well, she's trying to.
20:20
KARA: Trying.
20:21
DANI: I think that she's going about this really wrong.
20:25
KARA: How so?
20:25
DANI: If I were Toby, I would not wanna open up to my mom
20:29
about this, especially not in our kitchen with my dad listening in.
20:33
KARA: Yeah, that's true.
20:34
DANI: And she's like, how do you feel about the switch?
20:36
Like that's her question.
20:38
Like I feel like if she wants-
20:39
KARA: very open-ended.
20:40
DANI: Very open-ended.
20:41
I feel like if she wants real intimate answers, she should let him like
20:46
record voice memo responses to the questions and like promise him she's
20:50
not, because then he says like, oh, it's been nice 'cause I've kind
20:53
of gotten to fly under the radar.
20:55
KARA: But I think.
20:55
DANI: And they're immediately like, no, we'll do, we'll spend more time with you.
20:59
We'll pay more attention to you.
21:00
And it's like you're not giving him a safe space to say how he feels without you
21:04
guys like turning into parents about it.
21:05
KARA: Yeah.
21:06
No offense to Kathryn.
21:07
I think this was a bad interview.
21:08
DANI: Yes.
21:08
KARA: I think she really should have gotten into the nitty gritty,
21:11
like the second you found out.
21:13
DANI: Yes.
21:13
KARA: Bay's blood test reveal that she wasn't related.
21:16
How did you feel?
21:17
DANI: Right.
21:17
Like write out detailed questions and then let him answer them
21:21
in voice memos on his own time.
21:23
And then listen to them later.
21:24
I feel like that's the only way he's gonna be like open
21:27
and honest about how he feels.
21:29
KARA: I also like in the scene that John opens the fridge and he
21:31
says, where did all the food go?
21:32
Yeah,
21:33
DANI: he's hungry.
21:34
He's mad.
21:35
KARA: Yeah.
21:36
DANI: They say, we'll spend more time with you.
21:37
Like, what do you wanna do?
21:38
Do you wanna go skeet shooting?
21:40
KARA: Yes.
21:40
DANI: And Toby's like, no.
21:42
And then he leaves and then John goes, I think it was Bay
21:44
that was into skeet shooting.
21:45
There is no way Bay was the one that was into skeet shooting.
21:48
KARA: Is skeet shooting the same as clay shooting?
21:51
Like you throw that thing in the air and then you shoot it?
21:53
DANI: I think so.
21:54
KARA: Okay.
21:54
I've done it once.
21:55
DANI: Was it fun?
21:56
KARA: Yeah, I was really good at it.
21:58
DANI: Oh my God.
21:58
Are you a good shot?
21:59
KARA: I am.
22:00
Someone who doesn't like guns.
22:02
I was so good at it.
22:03
As Regina says later too.
22:05
DANI: She says, but I'm a pretty good shot.
22:06
KARA: Yeah.
22:07
DANI: Maybe it was Bay then.
22:08
Who knows?
22:09
KARA: Yeah, maybe it's genetic.
22:10
DANI: Maybe.
22:10
KARA: Okay.
22:11
DANI: Now we're in the guest house.
22:12
KARA: Yes.
22:13
In Daphne's bedroom.
22:14
Simone's there
22:16
DANI: and she, the scene opens with Daphne going, I look like a ho.
22:20
KARA: She's wearing a very normal looking purple dress.
22:23
DANI: Very normal.
22:23
Looks great on her.
22:25
KARA: And her hair's just like a little wavy.
22:27
DANI: Yeah.
22:27
KARA: They put some curls in.
22:28
DANI: Yeah.
22:29
She looks not like a second grader for maybe the first time.
22:33
KARA: She looks like she's going to a cousin's bar mitzvah.
22:35
That's the look.
22:36
DANI: You're right.
22:37
God.
22:37
Daphne's such a prude.
22:39
KARA: I was like, I wore that to go to the many bar mitzvahs I did in
22:42
my hometown like a strapless dress that went right above the knee.
22:47
DANI: It goes to the knee.
22:47
Yeah.
22:47
It's like it basically goes to the knee.
22:49
KARA: Yeah.
22:50
She looks great, honestly.
22:52
And purple's a nice color on her.
22:53
DANI: Yeah.
22:53
And Simone says, I don't know why you're always hiding your arms and your legs.
22:58
Like, you look great.
22:59
KARA: And Simone says what we were all thinking, which is, you need to
23:02
stop with the stripes and the oranges.
23:04
DANI: I guess I just wanted to take this moment, as much as I hate her.
23:08
And I'm only gonna hate her more as this episode goes on.
23:10
Last episode, we did beg the universe beg somebody to save Daphne
23:16
from the orange and the stripes.
23:17
And Simone stepped up.
23:19
KARA: Simone stepped up.
23:20
Thank you.
23:21
Although Daphne does wear stripes again in this episode.
23:24
DANI: Yes.
23:24
It's her like returning to her self.
23:26
KARA: To her roots.
23:28
Then Regina comes into the bedroom, meets Simone, and she
23:31
is freaked out by this dress.
23:32
She's like, oh.
23:33
DANI: Yeah.
23:34
Why?
23:35
KARA: I don't know.
23:35
DANI: Why is everyone trying to dress Daphne like a toddler?
23:39
KARA: I don't know.
23:40
DANI: Because Kathryn is buying her these clothes.
23:42
I know she likes them.
23:44
I guess no one's, no one's reacting to Bay wearing, like
23:48
Bay loves like a booby lacy top.
23:51
KARA: Yeah.
23:51
Why can't Daphne?
23:52
DANI: Why can't Daphne do that?
23:53
KARA: That's just not Daphne's style.
23:55
And maybe Regina's just genuinely surprised to see her showing some skin.
23:59
DANI: It felt slut shame-y.
24:00
I don't know.
24:00
KARA: It did feel very slut shame-y.
24:02
But Simone.
24:02
DANI: But from Regina, that's like surprising.
24:04
So maybe you're right.
24:05
KARA: I, I did not like it.
24:07
It's a very uncomfortable scene.
24:08
And Simone is being a little too overly friendly, I think for
24:12
someone who's meeting a friend's parent for the first time.
24:15
DANI: She's like trying a little hard.
24:17
KARA: Yeah.
24:17
She's being a bit TMI.
24:19
And she's like, she has an amazing body, like your body, Regina.
24:23
I would die to have your boobs.
24:24
DANI: Yeah.
24:25
It's a bit much.
24:26
KARA: I would never be commenting on my friend's mother's boobs ever, personally.
24:31
And then she's like, thank you for the invite to dinner, but I have to
24:33
go get my vagina waxed basically.
24:35
DANI: A lot of details.
24:37
KARA: Again, it's too much.
24:38
And then she leaves and Regina signs.
24:41
This is the first time they are not simcomming.
24:44
And that's because Simone is probably still in the apartment,
24:47
like putting on her shoes to leave.
24:48
DANI: Yeah, I wrote it down too.
24:49
I was like, this is huge.
24:50
This is proof that they don't have to be doing what they're doing.
24:53
KARA: They really do not have to be simcomming guys.
24:55
DANI: And you know what?
24:55
The scene was more engaging without them fucking talking.
24:58
KARA: It was awesome.
24:59
But Regina signs, are all private school girls like that?
25:03
But then the captions say, are all Buckner girls like that?
25:06
Interesting note.
25:07
I wonder if there's a sign name for Buckner, considering that
25:10
Daphne goes there all the time now.
25:11
DANI: I know.
25:12
I feel like there should be.
25:13
KARA: I think there should be a sign name for Buckner.
25:15
Like there is for Carlton, but Carlton is school for the Deaf.
25:17
But whatever.
25:18
Next scene, Kathryn is showing old family portraits to Emmett, including
25:23
a very insensitive portrait where Bay and Toby are dressed as Native Americans
25:27
and John and Kathryn are cowboys.
25:29
DANI: Oh my God.
25:29
I did not catch that.
25:30
I was trying to pause it for each family portrait, but I did not see that.
25:34
KARA: Oh yeah, it's quite insensitive.
25:36
There was a pirate one that's pretty cute though.
25:37
DANI: The pirate one's cute.
25:38
KARA: And they said they did that 'cause Toby like fell
25:40
and got scratches on his face.
25:42
So they all did that to match.
25:43
DANI: Sweet.
25:44
KARA: That was sweet.
25:45
DANI: A family I grew up with.
25:47
For their like family photo, one year they got a dog that had like a circle
25:51
around his eye and so for their family photo with the dog, they all put
25:55
like dark circles around their eyes.
25:57
KARA: It's cheesy, but it's cute.
25:58
DANI: It's cute.
25:59
KARA: And Emmett is loving this, you know?
26:01
He misses having a family, so he's adoring these photos.
26:04
DANI: Yeah.
26:05
KARA: Kathryn is doing this thing though that drives me crazy, is
26:08
that every time Emmett signs, she's interpreting it out loud.
26:11
DANI: Yeah.
26:12
KARA: This is what Bay did when she first started learning sign.
26:15
DANI: I think it's probably the director's way of showing that Kathryn's still
26:19
like struggling to learn and understand.
26:22
KARA: I know, and I. I guess they have to show it out loud, but it's annoying.
26:25
It's so annoying.
26:26
Kathryn asks him like, have you ever dated a hearing girl before?
26:30
Well, she says, can I ask you some very personal questions?
26:33
Have you ever dated a hearing girl before.
26:35
And then Emmett signs no.
26:36
And then she out loud says, no.
26:39
We know!
26:40
DANI: We know.
26:40
KARA: We know what he's saying guys.
26:42
And then she asks him if he's ever dated Daphne, and he is like, no.
26:45
DANI: And so he's really polite about correcting.
26:48
She signs date with F's.
26:50
KARA: He corrects it and she's like, oh, thank you.
26:51
DANI: Yeah.
26:52
KARA: And then Kathryn's like, well, I'm glad you're dating Bay
26:55
because I never liked her ex Ty.
26:58
And Emmett's like, you can see he's feigning recognition.
27:01
He's like, oh yeah, Ty.
27:02
Yeah, I know.
27:03
DANI: But he did.
27:03
Did he just forget?
27:04
'cause he totally acts like he doesn't remember that they dated.
27:07
But he does know.
27:08
KARA: I don't think he realized how serious they were.
27:10
But even then they weren't serious.
27:12
DANI: No.
27:13
KARA: Bay later says they weren't even together a month.
27:15
DANI: Well, we're gonna get there.
27:16
'cause that really threw off my timeline.
27:18
KARA: Yeah.
27:19
And then Kathryn's like, I was relieved when he left to fight in a needless war.
27:23
DANI: That's my problematic queen.
27:26
KARA: Basically.
27:26
And she was so sad and heartbroken when Ty left.
27:29
But then you came along and then Emmett is very, kind of weirded out by this.
27:34
DANI: Yeah.
27:34
He seems very upset.
27:37
KARA: And he will be upset and a little brat for the rest of the episode.
27:41
DANI: So then he goes out and he finds Bay, who is going through
27:44
her past work because Regina has told her about this gallery guy.
27:47
KARA: Yes.
27:48
DANI: And I'm sorry, I just like don't have a lot of patience
27:52
for Bay about her art right now.
27:55
Like she's annoying about, like, her being like, should I, this one speaks
27:58
for itself, but this one I could talk a lot about like blah, blah.
28:02
KARA: But also maybe they don't want that.
28:04
DANI: Yeah.
28:04
KARA: And then Emmett is not in the mood and he's like, they're all good.
28:07
DANI: I wasn't either.
28:08
He does say something shitty though.
28:09
KARA: Well, she says, she says, I'm so excited she,
28:13
she's getting ahead of herself.
28:14
I think also maybe Regina should've warn her.
28:17
We don't see Regina telling Bay the gallery owner's coming.
28:20
DANI: Yeah.
28:21
KARA: And Bay, because Bay seems to get her hopes up and she's like, oh
28:23
my God, he could be showing my art.
28:26
So she's like, there could be an opening with reviews and Emmett goes,
28:29
well, sometimes reviews are bad.
28:31
It's so mean.
28:32
And then.
28:33
DANI: Communicate!
28:34
KARA: And then Bay even says, what's up?
28:36
And he, he's like, nothing.
28:38
I gotta go.
28:38
DANI: He loves to be like nothing.
28:42
KARA: Brooding.
28:42
Bitchy face.
28:43
DANI: He loves to walk out of a situation.
28:45
KARA: Literally.
28:46
DANI: And then next scene, Daphne shows up to a random basketball court and she's
28:51
like, oh my god, Simone, you texted me.
28:53
It seemed urgent.
28:54
What's going on?
28:55
And Simone has hired, is this a real person?
28:58
KARA: No.
28:58
DANI: Okay.
28:59
KARA: I Googled it.
28:59
DANI: Thank you.
29:00
Simone has hired Lottie McComb, a fictional basketball player to coach them.
29:05
KARA: Yeah.
29:06
She's the basketball coach for UMKC.
29:08
DANI: Yeah.
29:09
And maybe played in the WNBA or no, maybe played for Stanford?
29:12
KARA: She used to play for Stanford.
29:14
DANI: Okay.
29:14
Just a random lady.
29:15
She doesn't even get lines.
29:16
KARA: Yeah.
29:17
Daphne says, that's amazing.
29:19
Thank you, but I can't afford this.
29:21
And Simone goes, don't worry.
29:23
Because remember the watch, I thought that was stolen?
29:25
I found it in my jacket, but then my dad already bought me a new one, so
29:29
I just decided to sell it and that's why I can afford these lessons.
29:32
And Daphne is like, well, we should tell the coach because everyone thinks Monica
29:38
and the East Riverside girls stole it.
29:40
And Simone's like, nah, don't worry about it.
29:42
This is gonna come up again later.
29:43
DANI: Should we just jump ahead to it?
29:45
The next scene with Daphne and Simone, they're at Buckner having lunch, I guess.
29:49
Again, I don't know why Daphne's always here and yeah.
29:52
KARA: I don't know.
29:52
DANI: Monica approaches them and Daphne's like, what are you doing here, girly?
29:57
Actually it doesn't-
29:58
KARA: I don't know why Monica's there.
30:00
DANI: I guess she came to tell Daphne.
30:02
Because she's hoping Daphne can do something?
30:05
KARA: Yeah.
30:05
'cause she's like, we are now banned from practicing at the gym because of
30:09
the accusations that we stole the watch.
30:11
DANI: Yeah.
30:12
KARA: And Daphne's about to say, well, oh, don't worry, the watch wasn't stolen.
30:16
But Simone has given her evil eyes.
30:18
Yeah.
30:18
Like, shut up.
30:19
Simone does not give a fuck.
30:21
DANI: And then Monica's basically like, don't worry about it.
30:23
It's not your fault.
30:25
KARA: Yeah.
30:25
DANI: And she like walks away and then Daphne turns to Simone and is
30:29
like, okay, we have to say something.
30:31
And Simone's basically just like, no, we don't.
30:34
KARA: She genuinely scared me in this scene, honestly.
30:37
DANI: Yeah.
30:37
She's scary.
30:38
She's evil.
30:40
KARA: Okay, let's rewind now.
30:41
Oh yeah.
30:42
There's this like B side plot with John and Toby trying to bond.
30:47
DANI: Oh yeah.
30:48
KARA: So John goes to Toby in his music room and to try and get them to bond, he
30:53
invites them to like a charity baseball hit fest where they basically just.
30:57
DANI: Just hit baseballs.
30:58
KARA: Hit baseballs.
30:59
Hit baseballs.
30:59
DANI: Baseball is so boring, you guys.
31:01
KARA: It's fun to hit though.
31:02
DANI: To watch a guy hit for like two hours at this charity event.
31:06
Why?
31:07
KARA: But it's to save the puppies.
31:08
DANI: So he's like, come on.
31:10
And Toby's like, I have to practice.
31:12
KARA: And John is very dismissive of this.
31:14
Yeah.
31:15
He's like, who cares?
31:16
We have to save the puppies and play baseball.
31:18
And Toby's said, fine.
31:19
Okay.
31:20
DANI: Can I, here's my hot take.
31:22
KARA: What?
31:22
DANI: I, John's basically gonna go on a journey of accepting that
31:25
Toby's music ambitions are valid and real and supporting his career.
31:30
KARA: Yes.
31:31
DANI: Right through this episode.
31:32
I think it's perfectly fine for him to be, to not think that his random
31:38
privileged son from Mission Hills is going to become like a, a rock star.
31:44
KARA: Sure.
31:44
DANI: I think it's okay.
31:46
I don't know.
31:46
Toby's like, you don't support me dad.
31:49
He did build him a music studio in the garage.
31:52
KARA: Yes.
31:52
But then Toby later says like, did you not think this was serious because you
31:57
gave me a garage so I could build a music studio and I practice every day.
32:01
DANI: I don't know.
32:01
I think it's important to remember who the Kennishes are.
32:04
Also, he sold a bunch of his fancy amps that they bought him
32:07
to pay off his gambling debts.
32:08
Like he is just a teenage boy.
32:10
I don't know.
32:11
I think if I was John, I also would be like, that's nice, honey.
32:14
Good for you.
32:15
KARA: Fair.
32:15
Yeah.
32:16
That's fair.
32:16
DANI: Like it's just him and Wilke in this band.
32:18
Like Wilke's not a serious person.
32:20
KARA: No he's not.
32:21
DANI: I'm happy they get to the place they get to where he's more supportive.
32:24
KARA: But I was gonna say, baseball isn't that serious either, but I guess
32:27
it's different when your father was in the industry and made career out of it.
32:31
DANI: I mean, yeah, he says later like, the reason I feel like
32:33
sports is a more realistic path for you is because I can help you.
32:38
KARA: Yeah, nepo baby.
32:39
Which is fine.
32:39
DANI: And Toby's like, I don't need help.
32:41
First of all, Toby, you do.
32:42
You let your rich parents build you a giant studio and buy you every single
32:46
amp in the world, and then you let your girlfriend get you a bunch of gigs.
32:49
So you do need help.
32:51
KARA: Yeah.
32:51
DANI: You are just like a 17-year-old rich boy.
32:54
KARA: It's fine to have help.
32:55
DANI: It's fine.
32:57
KARA: Yeah.
32:57
DANI: But I think it's also fine for John to be like, okay, I don't think
33:01
you're gonna be the next John Mayer.
33:03
KARA: Yeah.
33:03
DANI: I don't know what, what is he writing about?
33:05
KARA: I just don't know if he needs to say that to Toby.
33:07
DANI: No, but he doesn't say that.
33:09
He just does says like, I don't know, man.
33:11
I thought it was just like a hobby, whatever.
33:14
KARA: Do you know who is making meaningful art though?
33:16
DANI: Bay kind of, although we have to look at the man painting again.
33:19
KARA: Yeah.
33:20
Bay is showing her artwork to the gallery owner Patrick, and
33:23
he seems very disinterested.
33:25
He's like, that's nice honey.
33:26
She shows in the man portrait and he says this is kind of a twist on Jenny Holzer.
33:31
Reference to the title of the episode, guys.
33:33
He does not give a shit though.
33:35
I think he's just doing this to get close to Regina.
33:37
DANI: Yeah, it's a bummer scene 'cause she's like
33:40
KARA: so excited.
33:40
DANI: Really trying, excited to show off Bay's work and he's
33:43
definitely just hitting on her.
33:45
KARA: Bay is so excited.
33:46
But then Regina is like, do you like my daughter’s art, and then he's
33:48
like, do you wanna go on the date?
33:50
DANI: He said, I wanna try Kansas City Barbecue.
33:52
Which so do I. I think it's pretty red meat forward.
33:54
KARA: So I, well the name of the place is Alabama Al's.
33:57
So maybe it's not Kansas City Barbecue.
33:59
It's Alabama.
34:00
DANI: No, KC's just weird like that I think.
34:02
KARA: Okay.
34:02
It's hit fest time.
34:04
DANI: Oh yeah.
34:04
KARA: John is
34:06
DANI: hot.
34:07
KARA: He starts, yeah, he's hot.
34:08
He starts batting and his age is showing, 'cause he misses
34:11
like the first two swings.
34:12
DANI: I didn't even clock that.
34:13
I was like, wow, he looks sexy.
34:15
KARA: Yeah.
34:15
But then he starts hitting those balls outta the park.
34:18
Great job.
34:19
And then Toby comes up and it's very Ryan Evans from High School Musical 2
34:23
DANI: Yes.
34:23
Step up to the plate and start swinging.
34:26
Oh my God.
34:27
And he’s so good.
34:28
KARA: He is, home runs.
34:29
DANI: Yeah.
34:30
He's hitting all of 'em.
34:31
KARA: Yeah.
34:31
Everyone is in awe, including John.
34:33
I'm gonna actually wrap this plot up.
34:35
John and Toby then come home from the hit fest.
34:38
And John is like, you hit every ball at the park.
34:41
Why are you wasting your talent?
34:43
You are so good.
34:45
DANI: Yeah.
34:45
KARA: Also, baseball is more than just being able to hit a ball out of the park.
34:48
You need to be able to do a lot of other things.
34:50
But.
34:50
DANI: That's true.
34:51
KARA: But Toby's like, well, I quit because you, there
34:54
was so much pressure on me.
34:56
DANI: Yeah.
34:56
KARA: To be a good baseball player like my father.
34:59
DANI: Understandable.
34:59
KARA: Very understandable.
35:01
But then John tells him like, you threw that away for nothing.
35:04
DANI: And Toby's like, not for nothing.
35:05
I have my music career,
35:07
KARA: God, dad.
35:08
DANI: You see what I mean though?
35:09
I'm a little.
35:10
KARA: I know.
35:10
It's like, it's such the stereotypical like coming of age plot.
35:15
DANI: Yeah.
35:15
KARA: It's not my dream, dad.
35:17
It's yours.
35:18
DANI: Yeah.
35:18
It's literally Troy Bolton.
35:20
KARA: Yeah.
35:22
DANI: Troy Bolton in this universe.
35:23
Wow.
35:23
KARA: High School Musical parallels.
35:25
DANI: Oh my God.
35:26
KARA: And then.
35:27
DANI: He just wants to sing.
35:29
KARA: But then later after they do like the family photo shoot.
35:31
John approaches Toby.
35:33
Yeah.
35:33
And he's like, he comes to a realization.
35:35
DANI: And this is really sweet, that he says like.
35:37
KARA: I want tickets.
35:38
DANI: I, I want, I, I got tickets to the event you're playing.
35:41
I'm wondering if you can get us floor passes and Toby's, like,
35:44
it's not that kind of show.
35:46
And John's like, oh, I didn't know.
35:47
And he like, looks kind of embarrassed.
35:49
And then he is like, I just want to be able to help you and I
35:52
don't have any connections in this world, so I can't help you.
35:55
And that's when Toby says, I don't need your help.
35:57
And I'm like, that's my issue that I have.
35:59
It's, he should have just said like, it's okay dad.
36:02
Like you've helped me enough.
36:03
You helped me financially beyond what most of the population would get.
36:08
KARA: I know.
36:08
And then at the end, Toby strums on his guitar in the musical montage while
36:12
John looks from afar in the admiration.
36:15
DANI: Yeah.
36:15
That's nice.
36:15
KARA: So that's kind of the end of that plot.
36:17
DANI: Yeah.
36:17
That's the end of that plot.
36:18
KARA: Okay.
36:19
DANI: Wrapped it up.
36:19
Patrick comes back to take Regina out on a date.
36:23
Regina basically agrees to go on the date.
36:25
KARA: Is it the same day?
36:27
DANI: It's unclear if it's the same day.
36:28
But what's kind of shady to me is that he doesn't say how
36:32
he feels about Bay's artwork.
36:34
Until.
36:35
KARA: They're like, they're about to go out.
36:36
DANI: Yeah.
36:37
And like he waits until she says yes to the date.
36:39
I feel that Regina only said yes to the date.
36:42
KARA: To like.
36:42
DANI: To hopefully encourage him to like, you know what I mean?
36:46
KARA: I get it
36:47
. DANI: Kind of felt like a quid pro quo moment.
36:49
Like,
36:49
KARA: I know.
36:50
And it doesn't work.
36:51
DANI: So, and it doesn't work.
36:52
And so he comes upstairs and then Adrianna shows up?
36:55
KARA: Yes.
36:56
DANI: And does what Regina did to Bay, to Regina basically, and is like, oh,
37:02
well you need to look at Regina's work.
37:03
KARA: And Patrick says, she paints too?
37:05
DANI: Because Regina didn't mention it.
37:07
And she picks up this one piece in particular that is kind of giving
37:11
Phoebe Bridger's album cover.
37:13
KARA: That's exactly what I wrote down.
37:15
DANI: Yeah,
37:15
KARA: Dani.
37:16
DANI: Like the colors are exact.
37:18
KARA: It's like dark blue ombre to red.
37:21
DANI: Yeah.
37:21
I'm gonna look it up, actually.
37:23
I'll post it on the Instagram guys for reference.
37:25
We'll do a slide by slide comparison.
37:27
KARA: That is exactly what I wrote down.
37:29
DANI: It's a cool piece.
37:31
KARA: And then Regina later is gonna say like it's a piece about her sobriety and
37:34
that the broken glass are liquor bottles.
37:36
DANI: Yes.
37:37
And okay.
37:38
I'm being such a hater with this episode and like all the art that
37:41
these characters are making, and I know it's hard to write good art.
37:44
I know that that famously is a thing that it's hard when someone's an
37:48
artist in a show or movie to then show the art, is like very difficult.
37:53
That being said, Patrick, I think he just wants to sleep with her.
37:56
He keeps pushing, like your voice is so unique.
38:00
He's like, I want someone who has something unique to say and
38:02
the thing he's talking about is that Regina is an alcoholic.
38:06
KARA: I think Bay being switched at birth is quite unique.
38:09
DANI: I agree.
38:10
I don't know why.
38:11
I don't think they tell Patrick that though.
38:13
KARA: They don't.
38:13
But that's a great kind of story.
38:15
DANI: You need to sell that angle.
38:17
KARA: I was like, no offense.
38:18
Lots of artists are alcoholics.
38:20
DANI: Well, that was my thought process when he was like, it's just so unique.
38:23
I'm like, I do not think Regina is the first or the last person
38:27
to repurpose broken glass from alcohol bottles into their art.
38:32
It's a cool piece.
38:32
KARA: I don't know.
38:33
I don't know.
38:34
It's subjective, but I was just like, I don't know that
38:36
one's being shown in a gallery.
38:39
DANI: The amount of emphasis that is put on how unique it is and how unique her
38:43
voice is, is just like very silly to me.
38:46
KARA: Anyways.
38:47
Also, Patrick steps out when Adriana comes in.
38:49
Yeah, and Adrianna and Regina make amends.
38:51
They apologize to each other and she decides to move back in.
38:54
DANI: Adrianna says, I may have overstepped.
38:56
KARA: Maybe.
38:58
DANI: Maybe just a little.
38:59
KARA: Yeah, sorry about that.
39:00
Then after the scary Simone scene, Bay is in the library and Daphne
39:06
approaches, she's wearing stripes again, blue and gray stripes, and then
39:10
Daphne's like, can you please tell me what happened between you and Simone?
39:15
DANI: And can I call out?
39:16
Bay is now pretty proficient in sign language.
39:20
I would say.
39:21
KARA: Yes.
39:22
DANI: They are in the library surrounded by people that could
39:25
eavesdrop on them speaking.
39:27
And they are simcomming.
39:28
KARA: I know.
39:29
And it's quite a sensitive story.
39:31
DANI: It's a sensitive story involving people.
39:33
KARA: Who used to go to that school.
39:35
DANI: Yeah.
39:35
People at that school would know.
39:37
And they're in a library, so no one else is speaking.
39:40
KARA: I know.
39:40
DANI: Just pipe down, just shut it.
39:44
Like you don't.
39:45
KARA: Do you wanna share the story Bay shares?
39:47
DANI: Oh, it's so sad.
39:48
Okay, so basically Bay and Simone were evil eighth graders.
39:54
KARA: Yes.
39:55
DANI: And there was this weird girl at school that everyone made fun of.
39:59
KARA: Named Alicia.
40:00
DANI: And her skirt was too long.
40:02
And she had these, like.
40:04
KARA: She had barrettes.
40:04
DANI: Barrettes in her hair, whatever.
40:06
Sounds kind of cute.
40:07
And Simone convinced Bay that they should give her a makeover.
40:12
KARA: Mm-hmm.
40:13
DANI: And she really wanted to be friends with them.
40:15
She was just like desperate to have friends.
40:17
So they invited her over and then they convinced her to tell them who she had a
40:23
crush on, and then convinced her that she should practice asking him out on camera.
40:29
And then after she left, Bay was like, we need to delete this.
40:32
Like this is humiliating.
40:34
And suddenly she had a conscience and Simone instead sent it
40:39
around to the whole school.
40:41
KARA: It sounds like she posted it on YouTube or something.
40:43
DANI: Yeah.
40:43
And then it went from school to school.
40:45
KARA: And then Alicia dropped out.
40:47
She left the school.
40:48
DANI: She, yeah.
40:49
And maybe moved out of town completely.
40:51
KARA: Yeah.
40:52
And Bay, you can tell she still feels immense guilt about it.
40:55
DANI: Yeah.
40:55
She says like, I feel sick about it every day.
40:57
And basically just that her and Simone weren't really friends after that.
41:02
KARA: Mm-hmm.
41:02
DANI: But also she doesn't imply that it was like a big falling out.
41:06
KARA: It just seems like Bay was taking a step back.
41:07
DANI: Yeah.
41:07
And then she says, Simone is not someone you want as an enemy, but
41:12
you also don't want her as a friend.
41:14
KARA: Yes.
41:15
Yeah.
41:15
That story was quite upsetting.
41:17
DANI: A couple of things.
41:18
How does Toby not know about this?
41:20
KARA: Yeah, he must have seen the video.
41:22
Maybe he didn't like associate with Bay and Simone.
41:25
DANI: Yeah.
41:25
Maybe he didn't know.
41:26
KARA: They don't know who posted it.
41:27
DANI: Posted it and stuff, but like clearly Bay's
41:31
parents don't know about this.
41:33
KARA: No.
41:33
DANI: I just am intrigued also by the fact that, what are
41:36
they, sophomores or juniors?
41:38
They must be sophomores.
41:40
KARA: They're 16.
41:40
Yeah.
41:41
I don't know.
41:41
DANI: So probably sophomore.
41:42
KARA: Are they, when do they start applying to colleges?
41:44
Next, next season or was it the season after?
41:47
DANI: Well, I think, I don't know.
41:49
KARA: Let's say sophomores.
41:49
DANI: Let's say sophomores.
41:50
'cause maybe Toby's a junior or senior.
41:52
KARA: Yeah.
41:52
DANI: So this happened what, two years ago?
41:55
KARA: Recent?
41:55
Yeah.
41:56
DANI: God, that's crazy that there's only two years between
41:58
eighth grade and sophomore year.
42:00
KARA: A lot can happen.
42:01
DANI: That means for the last two years Bay has been lying about continuing to
42:05
be friends with Simone to her parents.
42:07
KARA: Yes.
42:08
DANI: Because she still uses Simone as an excuse all the time.
42:10
KARA: To sneak out of the house and do street art.
42:12
DANI: So John and Kathryn haven't seen Simone in two years.
42:15
KARA: That's true.
42:16
They must be like such absent parents from the eighties.
42:19
DANI: I guess so.
42:20
KARA: That was such like a mean girl story.
42:23
It like-
42:23
DANI: I
42:23
KARA: know.
42:24
broke
42:24
DANI: my heart.
42:25
And also like I know in eighth grade people are different and I know she
42:28
feels bad about it, but like Bay, you shouldn't have gone along with that.
42:32
KARA: Yeah.
42:32
At least it, there did come a point where she was like, we have to stop.
42:36
DANI: Yeah.
42:36
But anyway, Simone is evil.
42:38
KARA: Yeah.
42:38
Simone is confirmed evil.
42:40
We hate her.
42:41
Okay.
42:42
Regina and Patrick are on their barbecue date at Alabama Al’s.
42:46
Regina then at the scene asks his opinion on Bay's work.
42:50
And he's like, she's good I guess, she's talented for age, but she
42:54
just needs more time and experience.
42:56
But he's like, I loved your Phoebe Bridgers' Punisher painting though.
43:01
Obsessed with the Punisher painting.
43:02
DANI: Obsessed.
43:03
KARA: And Regina shares that, oh, it's about my sobriety.
43:06
And he goes, perfect.
43:08
You went through something and that shows in your art.
43:10
And then, like I said before, I wrote like Bay also went through something
43:14
even more unique than alcoholism.
43:17
Not to trivialize the struggles of being an alcoholic.
43:21
DANI: No.
43:21
But like Bay's man portrait is, is about her missing biological father.
43:28
KARA: Because she was switched at birth.
43:30
DANI: I think they're not marketing her well enough.
43:32
KARA: No.
43:33
DANI: She needs like an agent.
43:34
KARA: She needs an agent that's not Regina.
43:36
But anyways, Patrick's like, love your Punisher art, I want it in my next show.
43:40
Then next scene Bay comes to Regina and she's like, oh my God, how'd it go?
43:44
What did Patrick say about my art?
43:45
What's the feedback?
43:46
And Regina's like, so sorry, but he is not gonna be showing your work.
43:51
And Bay seems to have really gotten her hopes up here.
43:53
She is heartbroken.
43:55
DANI: She's so upset.
43:56
I, What happened here?
43:58
KARA: Like something's missing.
43:59
'cause I'm wondering, did Regina say like a gallery owner is coming and he's
44:04
looking to show art and that art could be yours or, but I think she should
44:09
have framed it as a gallery owner is coming and I thought it'd be good for
44:14
him to look and give you feedback.
44:16
DANI: Yeah.
44:17
KARA: But that doesn't seem to be how she framed it.
44:19
DANI: He also doesn't give her feedback though.
44:22
KARA: No, not at all.
44:23
He doesn't give her anything.
44:24
DANI: No.
44:25
KARA: But we also don't know what Regina told Bay.
44:27
DANI: No, but let's just jump ahead because then later in the episode,
44:31
Kathryn yells at Regina basically.
44:34
KARA: Yes.
44:35
DANI: About exposing Bay to this kind of criticism.
44:38
And she basically says, we should be lifting her up, not,
44:41
you know, not flattening her.
44:44
And Regina says like, what do you think the world is gonna be like?
44:48
KARA: Yeah.
44:48
Feedback is good for an artist.
44:49
DANI: For a young artist, like she's going to get criticism.
44:53
And she should learn to deal with that now.
44:56
And so I think this is also evidence of like Regina, assuming that Bay can
45:00
handle it, but Bay has grown up literally in a bubble, much like, this calls back
45:06
to me saying like, Toby's music career isn't serious 'cause he isn't fucking
45:10
like taking risks or doing things beyond like playing his mom's fundraiser.
45:17
KARA: Right.
45:18
DANI: Which is not like, that does not make your band real because
45:21
your mom books you for a fundraiser.
45:23
KARA: Right.
45:23
DANI: And that's sort of his vibe.
45:25
And Bay has her street art, but that's like private and no one's critiquing
45:29
that really, you know, it's not, it's, she's not hearing the feedback there
45:33
because it's like a different form.
45:35
KARA: But she's also not hearing the feedback from Patrick.
45:37
DANI: No, she's not.
45:38
But, and so it's just the, the sting of rejection.
45:41
KARA: Yes.
45:41
DANI: But like it is, Regina's, right that she needs to get used to being rejected
45:46
'cause she's about to be in the arts.
45:47
And that's hard.
45:48
And Kathryn is like, no.
45:50
Like she doesn't need to be exposed to that.
45:52
Yes, she does.
45:53
She does.
45:53
Clearly she does because she has a full blown meltdown about the fact that
45:58
this guy doesn't wanna show her work.
46:01
KARA: And then Regina says, I'm proud of her for showing her, showing her art.
46:04
Like it must've been scary and she got rejected.
46:06
And that's gonna happen.
46:07
Yeah.
46:07
DANI: That's gonna happen.
46:08
So, yeah.
46:10
But I think this does push Kathryn, because Kathryn is, has been struggling
46:14
with her book this whole episode.
46:15
KARA: Yes.
46:16
DANI: And she is going to end the episode by finally allowing
46:19
John to read her book proposal.
46:21
KARA: Yes.
46:21
DANI: And for a minute there, she was like, maybe no one will read this book
46:24
proposal and I'll just keep it to myself.
46:26
KARA: Yeah.
46:27
She was saying, maybe I'll never publish it.
46:28
I’ll just let Sarah Lazar do it.
46:30
DANI: Yeah.
46:30
But I think that Regina being like, no, the world is scary and you have
46:33
to just do it anyway really pushes her to be like, okay, I'm scared
46:37
of rejection too, but I will do it.
46:39
KARA: Thank you, Regina.
46:40
DANI: Yeah.
46:41
KARA: Yeah.
46:41
Point for Regina in that scene.
46:43
DANI: Mm-hmm.
46:43
KARA: I agree with everything she said.
46:44
DANI: And then Kathryn's response to her is, please don't, they're,
46:47
they're doing laundry for reference.
46:49
And she goes, please don't use those kinds of dryer sheets.
46:50
They ruin the machine.
46:52
KARA: Yeah.
46:52
She can't think of a good comeback.
46:54
So she’s like, pick different dryer sheets, please.
46:56
And she says it so feebly.
46:57
Okay, next scene.
46:58
Daphne's at Buckner.
47:00
And she goes to the coach who we hate to tell him, by the way, the watch was found.
47:04
But Simone has beat her to the punch 'cause the coach is like.
47:08
DANI: This is so evil.
47:09
KARA: Oh, I knew about this 'cause Simone told me that selling
47:13
the watch was both your idea.
47:15
And using that money to hire a basketball coach was both your idea.
47:19
And she's trying to defend herself and he will not let her get a word in edgewise.
47:24
I hate him.
47:26
DANI: So she finally snaps.
47:27
KARA: He goes, I put you on this team for a reason.
47:29
DANI: And she said, you put me on this team so you could get
47:32
the money because I am deaf.
47:34
KARA: And then silence.
47:36
DANI: And then he says, okay, we should start clean.
47:38
We should start fresh.
47:39
KARA: I was so proud of her for saying that.
47:41
DANI: Yeah.
47:41
Finally.
47:42
KARA: Standing up for herself.
47:43
She said, you don't give a shit about me, actually.
47:46
DANI: Mm-hmm.
47:46
KARA: And you suck.
47:47
And then he's like.
47:48
DANI: Yeah, fair.
47:48
KARA: Yeah.
47:49
And then he is like, fine, we're gonna do a new round of tryouts.
47:51
You're gonna go against Simone for point guard.
47:53
DANI: This is so petty.
47:55
KARA: Yeah.
47:55
That was crazy.
47:56
DANI: He has no reason to do that except to be like, fuck you.
47:59
KARA: I hate this coach.
48:00
Fire him.
48:01
DANI: Yeah.
48:01
Why is he playing with teenage girls' lives like this?
48:04
KARA: Why is he going in the locker room and messing up their lives?
48:07
DANI: Why is he feeding the drama?
48:08
KARA: I don't know.
48:09
Fuck this guy.
48:10
Emmett comes to see Bay, and Bay again is having a crash out.
48:14
DANI: Bay is crashing out.
48:15
She's making a new piece of Axe Girl art that she says she's going to put
48:19
up across the street from this guy's gallery as like a fuck you to him.
48:23
I thought that she was no longer going to be doing, she not like a projection,
48:27
she's going to spray paint it up.
48:30
KARA: Yes.
48:30
DANI: I thought that she learned from Emmett.
48:32
Emmett's situation to not do this anymore.
48:35
KARA: I think she's gonna continue doing it, but then she stupidly invites him.
48:39
DANI: Yeah.
48:40
KARA: And then he's like, no, I got arrested and I lost my motorcycle.
48:44
Why would I do that?
48:45
DANI: What he says, 'cause he's pissed at her.
48:48
So first they fight about Ty.
48:49
KARA: Yes.
48:49
DANI: And he's like, I thought it wasn't that serious.
48:52
And she was like, it wasn't, it was only for like a month.
48:55
KARA: Yes.
48:56
Okay.
48:56
And she says, I didn't sleep with him.
48:57
I'm still a vegetable.
48:59
The vegetable reference comes up again.
49:00
DANI: And he's like really bothered by it still.
49:03
Whatever.
49:04
I don't really understand why.
49:05
Kathryn, all she said was like, Bay was heartbroken.
49:08
And Bay says to Emmett, you knew that I was still into him when you kissed me.
49:12
KARA: Yeah.
49:13
DANI: Because we literally, like our whole friendship foundation was built on the
49:17
fact that she was upset over Ty leaving.
49:19
KARA: Yeah.
49:20
All Kathryn said was, I like you and you make my daughter happy.
49:23
DANI: Yeah.
49:23
And that she seemed heartbroken when Ty left, which like
49:25
a mom doesn't always know.
49:27
Like Kathryn could be wrong too.
49:29
Like Kathryn could be, I mean, she wasn't in this instance, but like
49:32
it's frustrating that Emmett takes her word over Bay's and so then he's
49:37
like, whatever, I'll get over it.
49:39
And she's like, okay, do you wanna come with me to put up this piece?
49:41
And he goes, your street art already cost me my motorcycle.
49:45
So no.
49:47
Which is fucked up to say to her.
49:49
I thought we decided, collectively as a show society, that
49:54
Emmett's choices were his own.
49:56
KARA: Yes.
49:57
DANI: Mostly.
49:57
KARA: For the most part, yes.
49:58
DANI: For the most part.
49:59
Bay played a part, but it's fucked up of him to throw that in her face, even
50:02
though I think what she's doing is stupid.
50:04
KARA: And I think she should not invite him.
50:06
DANI: No, and I think she shouldn't invite him.
50:08
I don't think you need to say no 'cause you already cost me my motorcycle.
50:11
KARA: It also drove me crazy when Bay is trying to explain himself about Ty
50:15
and he just looks at her and goes, okay.
50:16
I hate when I'm arguing.
50:18
DANI: He pissed me off.
50:19
KARA: I hate when I'm trying to talk to someone and they
50:22
just give me one word answers.
50:23
Okay.
50:24
Fine.
50:25
It makes me so mad.
50:26
And then he leaves again.
50:27
DANI: And then he fucking leaves again.
50:28
Like, why were you even there?
50:29
KARA: I think also the running plot in this too, is that he's
50:33
very unhappy living with his dad.
50:35
DANI: Yes.
50:36
KARA: He's not really expressing that, but you see hints of it like he's hungry.
50:39
His parents are never there.
50:41
He even says in the scene like Cameron and Olivia are never home.
50:44
DANI: Yeah.
50:44
She says, how did you get away.
50:47
KARA: And he said, well they’re never home, so.
50:48
DANI: They're not even there.
50:49
KARA: Yeah.
50:50
So I, he's missing a family.
50:53
And he's also, he also has that resentment, I think.
50:56
But Emmett, stop it.
50:59
DANI: It's pissing me off.
51:00
KARA: Pissing me off.
51:01
Okay, now we're back at Buckner and Simone confronts Daphne about them going
51:06
up against each other for point guard.
51:08
And she goes, after all I've done for you, like hiring that basketball coach.
51:13
DANI: Girl, fuck you.
51:14
And she's, she's like, you knew you couldn't post up.
51:17
You were worried about posting up.
51:18
So now you're taking my spot.
51:20
KARA: Well, she's really afraid of Daphne beating her, 'cause she
51:22
knows Daphne's better than her.
51:24
DANI: Daphne's better at basketball.
51:25
KARA: Yeah.
51:26
DANI: And then she, she starts fucking making comments about Daphne being deaf.
51:30
KARA: Well, Daphne's, like you told the coach that selling
51:33
the watch was also my idea.
51:35
And then Simone goes, well, you probably misunderstood.
51:38
He doesn't move his lips a lot when he speaks.
51:40
I wanted to push her off a cliff.
51:42
DANI: I would’ve thrown hands.
51:44
KARA: I had someone say that to me once in high school.
51:46
We were playing tennis together and the fight was about something else.
51:50
But then she was like, well, maybe you didn't hear.
51:53
And I was like, don't use that against me.
51:55
DANI: Oh my God.
51:56
KARA: I was furious for a week after.
51:58
DANI: Do you remember what the fight was about?
51:59
KARA: I played varsity tennis.
52:01
And what happened was, for every game someone had to
52:04
bring food to feed the team.
52:05
And apparently it was my turn, but I wasn't aware of that.
52:08
I was supposed to do it for one game, but then the game was postponed or
52:11
canceled because of rain or whatever.
52:13
And then this game comes up and this girl comes up to me and
52:17
she's like, where's the food?
52:18
And I was like, I was not aware of that.
52:20
I was supposed to feed the team, but I'll go get pizza right now.
52:23
And she's like, no, it's too late.
52:24
Everyone's gonna be hungry and play poorly because of you.
52:27
And then I was like, it does not say in the schedule with my name on it.
52:30
Like, no one texted me prior.
52:32
'Cause usually that was like, she was the captain, so she was supposed
52:35
to text and be like, by the way, bring sandwiches or pizza tomorrow.
52:38
DANI: Okay.
52:38
So what I'm hearing is it was her fault.
52:40
KARA: And then she was like, well, I mentioned it last
52:43
week, so maybe you didn't hear.
52:45
DANI: Girl.
52:46
KARA: And I was like,
52:46
DANI: so she was trying.
52:47
KARA: Fuck you.
52:48
DANI: Yeah.
52:48
Trying to cover for the fact that she forgot to text you.
52:51
KARA: Yes.
52:52
I think that's what happened.
52:53
DANI: I'm sorry.
52:54
KARA: Yeah, I was furious.
52:56
And then I had to call my poor mother to come outta the office and
52:59
like frantically buy sandwiches.
53:01
So the team did get fed.
53:03
Just a little later than usual, but whatever.
53:05
DANI: They survived.
53:06
KARA: They survived.
53:07
Anyway, Bay tags the wall.
53:09
DANI: Bay tags the wall.
53:10
KARA: She's back in the art studio.
53:11
And Patrick comes in to give her something from a Jenny Holzer exhibit that he.
53:16
Like the catalog and Bay not so subtly is like, is your gallery on this street?
53:22
Because I saw this really cool piece of street art across the
53:26
street, and he's like, yeah.
53:28
DANI: Thought I left the Banksy wannabes back in New York.
53:31
KARA: Ouch.
53:32
DANI: He's not a fan.
53:33
And so then maybe for Bay, I would hope that that would tell her like, okay,
53:38
this guy's not gonna like the kind of stuff that I really wanna do anyway.
53:41
KARA: Yeah.
53:42
But instead she keeps pushing it.
53:44
Well, then he goes back to Regina and he is like, again, I need your Phoebe
53:49
Bridgers Punisher piece in my show.
53:51
DANI: He needs it.
53:52
KARA: And Regina's like thank you, but if I do, it's going to hurt Bay's feelings.
53:57
He's like, why would you both not do it instead of only have one of you do it?
54:01
Like what?
54:01
DANI: Yeah.
54:02
KARA: How does that benefit either of you to not have your piece in there?
54:05
And then Regina's like, Hmm, putting myself out there.
54:08
DANI: Interesting.
54:09
KARA: This episode's all about putting yourself out there.
54:11
Now it's b-ball time.
54:13
DANI: I just wrote, not a basketball show down.
54:15
And then I honestly tuned out 'cause I knew.
54:18
KARA: Well, Simone has the ball and she says to Daphne, do you want me to
54:21
tell you when he blows the whistle?
54:23
I'm gonna throw this basketball in her face.
54:25
DANI: But Daphne responds so cunty, she goes, no.
54:29
'cause he'll blow it again when I score on you.
54:31
KARA: Yeah.
54:31
DANI: Pretty good.
54:32
Pretty good back talk.
54:33
KARA: She kicks her ass.
54:34
DANI: Yeah.
54:35
KARA: So Daphne gets the position, yay.
54:37
Then Regina goes up to Bay in her bedroom and she confesses.
54:42
Patrick is gonna be putting a piece of my work in the show.
54:45
DANI: Yeah.
54:46
KARA: And Bay immediately.
54:48
DANI: Bay feels so betrayed.
54:49
KARA: Betrayed.
54:50
She accuses Regina of moving on from Angelo so fast.
54:54
Fair.
54:54
He just left.
54:55
DANI: Totally fair.
54:56
Regina's response is he left us again.
54:59
No, he didn't.
55:01
KARA: I'm wondering.
55:01
DANI: I'm pretty sure he was deported.
55:03
KARA: Do we?
55:04
DANI: No, we don't know.
55:04
KARA: We don't know.
55:05
'cause I was like, did she just drop to the audience that he left again because
55:10
he was confronted about being a fugitive.
55:12
He got scared and left?
55:13
DANI: She said that man walked out on us again and I'm like,
55:17
I don't think he walked out.
55:18
I think he was dragged out.
55:20
Genuinely.
55:21
KARA: Right.
55:21
DANI: Like, unless she's has some secret knowledge that we don't have.
55:25
KARA: I know.
55:26
DANI: Honestly, I think Regina is still jealous over learning that he had a
55:31
fiance in Italy like two years ago.
55:34
KARA: Right.
55:34
So she's like, I'm gonna go out and date this gallery owner.
55:36
DANI: Yeah, I think she, Angelo does not bring out the best in her.
55:41
KARA: No.
55:42
DANI: So, yeah.
55:43
And then as they're fighting, Kathryn walks in and is like, hey guys,
55:47
it's time for the family portrait.
55:49
This is so funny.
55:49
'cause Kathryn can hear them.
55:51
She's not deaf.
55:52
She can hear them fighting.
55:54
KARA: Yeah.
55:54
DANI: Like if they wanted to do that bit, they should have sent Daphne.
55:57
But Kathryn fully knows that they're fighting and just is like portrait?
56:01
It's time.
56:02
KARA: It's time.
56:03
Emmett's set up the camera.
56:04
DANI: Also I like that they chose to do this scene in complete silence.
56:08
KARA: Yes.
56:08
It's through Emmett's point of view.
56:09
DANI: Yeah.
56:10
KARA: Yeah.
56:10
Emmett's taking a lot of candids.
56:12
Kind of weird, but a lot of nice portraits do come out of it.
56:15
DANI: You know that I don't love Emmett's photography style.
56:18
KARA: I know, I know.
56:20
But yeah, they do it from his point of view.
56:22
So there's no audio, but you can see like the yearning in his face
56:26
that he misses and wants a family.
56:28
I also wanted to note that because there's no sound, you can see like the
56:33
growing closeness of the family unit.
56:35
DANI: Yeah.
56:36
KARA: It was cool.
56:36
DANI: It's really nice.
56:37
And then after the photo, Daphne tells John that she got the slot on the team.
56:42
KARA: He's like, yay.
56:42
Then Bay approaches Emmett as he's cleaning up the camera equipment, but
56:47
he leaves the room without a word again.
56:50
DANI: What?
56:50
He's being so emo like.
56:52
I would be so embarrassed if my boyfriend was acting this way
56:54
. KARA: In front of my family.
56:56
I know.
56:56
And then she's like, did something happen?
56:58
I'm sorry if my family's embarrassing.
57:00
And he's like, stop.
57:01
Your family is amazing, and I would be lucky to have a family like that.
57:05
And then he goes, my parents fell out of love with each other.
57:09
Are we gonna fall out of love?
57:11
DANI: The first thing I wrote was, well, yes, because you
57:13
are 16, but then second, aw.
57:16
KARA: And Bay goes, did you just say love?
57:18
Wait, let me, let me focus on your feelings.
57:20
DANI: Yeah.
57:21
And he was like, no, what?
57:22
And she was like, well, you said fall out of love.
57:25
KARA: So does that mean you're in love?
57:27
DANI: Yeah.
57:27
KARA: With me?
57:28
DANI: And he says like, yes, I am.
57:30
Okay.
57:31
This, he's been acting like such a bitch this whole episode.
57:35
KARA: I know.
57:36
DANI: I, it's frustrating that this is the moment that he chooses
57:39
to then be like, and I love you.
57:41
KARA: And then she says it back and it's
57:44
DANI: the big L.
57:45
KARA: I know the big L. Don't drop the big L right now.
57:48
DANI: He dropped the big L.
57:49
KARA: He dropped the Big L, but I, it just didn't seem warranted.
57:52
DANI: No, it also feels too soon.
57:55
KARA: No one expressed any love for each other in the scene or even
57:58
the past few episodes actually.
58:00
DANI: Yeah, they've been fighting for two episodes.
58:03
They didn't really resolve the fighting in this episode.
58:06
Well, whatever.
58:07
They're teenagers.
58:08
KARA: Yeah.
58:08
DANI: So yeah, he drops the big L and then we get a montage to play us out of
58:13
this episode, which is, I think a first.
58:16
KARA: Yes.
58:16
We get a little music montage.
58:17
So we have Kathryn giving John her book proposal.
58:20
DANI: Mm-hmm.
58:21
KARA: I thought it was the actual book, and I was like,
58:23
why is it only two pages long?
58:25
And then I realized that, wait, it's the book proposal.
58:27
Okay.
58:28
Regina opens the phone and realized she has a missed call from Angelo.
58:31
DANI: Huge.
58:32
KARA: Toby strums his guitar, and John looks from afar, wistfully,
58:35
and with admiration in his eyes.
58:37
That he didn't have before.
58:38
it's a new kind of admiration.
58:40
Emmett is looking through the family portrait pics that he just
58:42
took and then he texts his mom.
58:44
DANI: Yeah.
58:45
KARA: That I really liked.
58:46
DANI: I liked that too.
58:47
But the text was so formal.
58:49
Hi mom, how are you?
58:51
KARA: That's how I text my mom.
58:52
DANI: Is that how you text your mom?
58:53
KARA: I think so.
58:54
DANI: Oh.
58:54
That is not how I'm texting my mom.
58:56
KARA: My mom loves emojis though, so I think I'll throw an emoji in.
58:59
DANI: That would feel better.
59:00
I think that would soften it.
59:02
KARA: Yeah.
59:03
My mom every morning goes Good morning.
59:05
And then she does the chickens emojis.
59:07
DANI: She texts you every morning?
59:09
KARA: Every morning.
59:09
DANI: That is so sweet.
59:11
KARA: In the family group chat.
59:12
Oh, and then the last part of the montage is Simone walks past Daphne at
59:16
Buckner and gives her the evil eyes.
59:18
So I feel that she's gonna have some kind of revenge in store for Daphne.
59:22
DANI: And she's maybe walking with other basketball teammates.
59:26
So the implication is like, that the rest of the team is
59:29
also gonna be mad at her now.
59:31
KARA: Oh man.
59:32
Not looking forward to that.
59:33
DANI: No, and that's the end of the episode guys.
59:35
KARA: Daphne should push Simone off a cliff.
59:37
That'd be a fun twist.
59:39
DANI: I feel like if she revealed now that Simone was the one that
59:43
uploaded that video, like in high school, that's not a cool thing to do.
59:47
Like I understand middle schoolers are evil, but in high school,
59:50
if you're revealed to be an evil person, I feel like people take note.
59:53
KARA: Yeah.
59:53
They'd be like, that's actually really fucking mean.
59:55
What the hell?
59:56
Yeah.
59:56
Especially now I would say like.
59:58
DANI: Even back then though, like I feel like by high school, people
1:00:01
were like, we don't bully people.
1:00:03
That's fucking weird.
1:00:03
That what I mean, like why would just ignore them if you don't like them?
1:00:07
KARA: I think I was gonna say though, especially now where we know the power
1:00:11
and the permanency of the internet.
1:00:13
DANI: Yeah.
1:00:14
KARA: Now that's like extremely uncool, I would say.
1:00:18
DANI: I just cannot believe that no one said anything to Toby.
1:00:21
Like I know Bay said something to Toby.
1:00:24
KARA: Toby doesn't know.
1:00:25
He's just like they're ex friends.
1:00:27
DANI: Yeah.
1:00:27
The fact that Bay hasn't been like, no, she did this really evil thing.
1:00:31
Like you need to be careful.
1:00:33
KARA: I don't know if I would tell my brother.
1:00:34
DANI: I fucking would.
1:00:35
KARA: I don't have an older brother.
1:00:36
I don't have any older siblings though.
1:00:38
So the relationship is different.
1:00:39
DANI: That's true.
1:00:40
Yeah.
1:00:40
If someone wronged me and then my brother started dating them, I'd be like, hello?
1:00:44
KARA: Oh, that's right.
1:00:44
I forget they're dating.
1:00:45
DANI: Yeah.
1:00:46
KARA: We don't see Toby and Simone interact all this episode.
1:00:49
DANI: No, but they just agreed that they're back together.
1:00:52
KARA: Right.
1:00:53
Yeah, that's true.
1:00:54
I would say, I don't know.
1:00:55
I don't think who you are now is your reflection of who you are at
1:00:58
14, but it might be good to warn her, especially since she's still a bitch
1:01:02
now and a bitch to his sister Daphne.
1:01:05
Fun episode.
1:01:06
DANI: Fun episode.
1:01:08
A lot of basketball.
1:01:09
KARA: I'm so sorry you had to go through that.
1:01:11
DANI: It's okay.
1:01:11
I'll survive.
1:01:12
KARA: Well, thank you for listening.
1:01:13
DANI: Thanks for listening, guys.
1:01:15
KARA: We'll see you next week.
1:01:16
DANI: See you next week.
1:01:17
Bye.