Latest / I Do, Part 2 / It’s Officially Millie Bonnie Bongiovi Now…. Did You Change Your Last Name?
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Friday, December fifth, and should
- 0:07Speaker 1: a woman take her new husband's last name? Or should
- 0:13Speaker 1: I say it this way? It should the new husband
- 0:15Speaker 1: give it to her? And with that, welcome to this
- 0:18Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. Y'all should see her eyes
- 0:21Speaker 1: right now. That was just to be provocative. Let's get
- 0:23Speaker 1: on track here. This is about Millie. Bobby Brown started
- 0:27Speaker 1: a conversation the actions from stranger things. Of course, she
- 0:32Speaker 1: has changed her name, A woman that famous changing her
- 0:35Speaker 1: name at twenty one, and it got people talking. It's
- 0:39Speaker 1: an age old debate, is it not?
- 0:42Speaker 2: It has been in my life.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Okay, where has do you think, let's say, let's say
- 0:47Speaker 1: your lifetime. Has the conversationation shifted and the mindset shifted
- 0:53Speaker 1: because it used to be just an automatic. Yes, of
- 0:55Speaker 1: course it's gonna take the man's last the man's last name.
- 0:58Speaker 3: But what is it now in this country? I don't
- 1:00Speaker 3: think so, and I don't think it's changed that much.
- 1:04Speaker 3: I was shocked by today's as in twenty twenty five. Actually,
- 1:10Speaker 3: the recent the most recent Pew Research survey is from
- 1:16Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and I was surprised. Now, I grew
- 1:20Speaker 3: up in the Midwest and the South. I live in
- 1:24Speaker 3: the Northeast. Yeah, I've had very different experiences based on
- 1:29Speaker 3: where I have lived, not necessarily the years in which
- 1:34Speaker 3: I made different decisions, but where I was living in
- 1:37Speaker 3: the country definitely had an impact on how it was received.
- 1:42Speaker 1: And nobody has to ask which was which right at
- 1:46Speaker 1: this point, but this, this isn't interesting. I found this
- 1:49Speaker 1: story interesting in the whole bunch of ways. Of course,
- 1:52Speaker 1: Millie Bobby Brown just got married to John bon Jovi's son.
- 1:55Speaker 1: What's his first name, Jake Bonjo Jake bon Jovi, And
- 1:57Speaker 1: she just came out recently and incorrect An interviewer said, nope,
- 2:01Speaker 1: actually my name is not Millie Bobby Brown anymore, and
- 2:04Speaker 1: she corrected and said what her name is? And tongues
- 2:08Speaker 1: are wagging. Why should we be surprised by this or
- 2:12Speaker 1: impressed by this, or intrigued by this, or applauding this
- 2:16Speaker 1: or disagreeing with it? What is the big deal?
- 2:18Speaker 3: Well, when it comes to Millie Bobby Brown, there are
- 2:21Speaker 3: a couple of things. First of all, obviously she is
- 2:24Speaker 3: an established actress who established her name early on. She
- 2:29Speaker 3: is a child actor basically because now she is I mean,
- 2:33Speaker 3: it's surprising. As long as we've known her and we've
- 2:36Speaker 3: been watching her, she's only twenty one, and she's already
- 2:39Speaker 3: a mom.
- 2:40Speaker 2: She's married, she's a mom.
- 2:41Speaker 3: This isn't something we are used to seeing in the Northeast.
- 2:45Speaker 2: I'll be honest.
- 2:46Speaker 3: In the New Jersey. His family's from New Jersey. They
- 2:51Speaker 3: live in the Northeast. This is something you see in
- 2:54Speaker 3: the Midwest.
- 2:55Speaker 2: In the South.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Twenty one married child, take my husband's last name. This
- 3:01Speaker 1: is not a story unheard of from the places we're from.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Correct, And I will go so far as to say,
- 3:08Speaker 3: specifically my family, my brother got married at twenty two,
- 3:14Speaker 3: His wife was twenty one. My parents got married at eighteen.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I got married at twenty three, and that was all
- 3:22Speaker 3: very common. Again from originally, my whole family is from Michigan.
- 3:27Speaker 3: We lived in Missouri for a while, and then from Georgia,
- 3:31Speaker 3: and none of that raised any eyebrows by anyone in
- 3:35Speaker 3: any of those areas we lived in. I will say
- 3:39Speaker 3: I was and remain the only person that I know
- 3:44Speaker 3: from any of those areas, including my family, who did
- 3:49Speaker 3: not change her last name.
- 3:52Speaker 2: I am the black sheep, I'm the outlier.
- 3:54Speaker 3: I am the person who did something different than everyone else.
- 3:59Speaker 1: I know in love you're in a particular business and
- 4:02Speaker 1: where that would not necessarily that that's normal.
- 4:06Speaker 3: But I did and made those decisions before any of that.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Okay, one thing I'm going to ask you about that,
- 4:12Speaker 1: But one thing about Millie Bobby Brown. Do we know
- 4:14Speaker 1: for sure she might still use it? Didn't seem like
- 4:16Speaker 1: it to me. Still use Millie Bobby Brown professionally or
- 4:21Speaker 1: quite frankly, does it matter. She's a big enough name.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Everybody knows who the hell she is and who she's
- 4:25Speaker 1: married to.
- 4:26Speaker 3: Now we don't know what's going to happen going forward,
- 4:28Speaker 3: but I can tell you exactly what happened on that
- 4:31Speaker 3: red carpet.
- 4:32Speaker 2: This is really interesting.
- 4:34Speaker 3: So she was on a red carpet for the fifth
- 4:37Speaker 3: season of the Netflix series of course this. You know,
- 4:40Speaker 3: we all know what she's famous for, the up what
- 4:46Speaker 3: is it? The upside down world, the stranger things that
- 4:48Speaker 3: I know. But she's she was eleven l in this series.
- 4:52Speaker 3: It's a piece the start, yes, from the very beginning.
- 4:55Speaker 3: And so when she was called out on the red carpet,
- 4:59Speaker 3: her co star Noah Schnapp you know who that is.
- 5:03Speaker 3: So he actually made a joke to the person who
- 5:06Speaker 3: was interviewing her, saying, hey, by the way, you should
- 5:08Speaker 3: call her by her full name. I'm up to date
- 5:11Speaker 3: on it. And he said, it's Milly Bonnie Bobby Brown,
- 5:15Speaker 3: bon Jovi. He was joking, right, So she had some
- 5:19Speaker 3: fun with him and said, actually, drop the Bobby, drop
- 5:23Speaker 3: the Brown, and she said, it's just Milli Bonnie bon Jovi.
- 5:28Speaker 3: And then she said, you can actually call me Milli
- 5:29Speaker 3: bonbon which I thought was pretty cute because.
- 5:33Speaker 2: What I didn't work. Yeah, it's Millie Bonbon.
- 5:36Speaker 3: What I didn't realize, and I don't know a lot
- 5:38Speaker 3: of people were aware of this, but her middle name
- 5:42Speaker 3: actually isn't Bobby, It's Bonnie.
- 5:45Speaker 1: She said.
- 5:45Speaker 3: She just decided when she walked into this, and a
- 5:49Speaker 3: lot of actresses do this, a lot of folks, and
- 5:51Speaker 3: a lot of women specifically, but even men, when they
- 5:54Speaker 3: go into a public place or of public prominence, they
- 5:58Speaker 3: what if their name is complic You went for TJ
- 6:01Speaker 3: instead of Lutelius, right, so you know a little bit
- 6:04Speaker 3: about changing your name for public ease. So instead of
- 6:09Speaker 3: being Millie Bonnie Brown, she thought, she just said, she
- 6:13Speaker 3: thought it'd be fun to call herself Millie Bobby Brown.
- 6:15Speaker 3: So she changed her name for whatever reason when she
- 6:19Speaker 3: went into showbiz, but her actual name is Millie Bonnie,
- 6:24Speaker 3: and so now she wants to beilt Millie Bonnie bon Jovi,
- 6:28Speaker 3: Millie Bonbon.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Okay, that works for me. I got no problem.
- 6:33Speaker 3: So what is.
- 6:35Speaker 1: The This is always a debate and always make the
- 6:37Speaker 1: same joke. I think you hate it. You heard me
- 6:40Speaker 1: say it like a hundred times. When people asks ask
- 6:44Speaker 1: if somebody's going to take their husband's last name, say no,
- 6:48Speaker 1: we give it to you. You don't take it. This
- 6:50Speaker 1: is a joke. It never lands. Usually most women usually
- 6:53Speaker 1: have the same.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Look on the Oh god, no, I actually swallowed you
- 6:56Speaker 2: have that you That was uncomfortable for me.
- 7:00Speaker 1: I didn't like that at all.
- 7:02Speaker 2: I've said this twenty times and I've never liked it.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Like twenty times you've said it. It doesn't to it,
- 7:08Speaker 1: It doesn't work. It goes in the same vein of
- 7:11Speaker 1: this ridiculous debate. Knock yourself out. If you want to
- 7:16Speaker 1: be called by your husband's last name, do it. If
- 7:18Speaker 1: you don't, don't, Why is that not the end of
- 7:22Speaker 1: the debate. I'm not offended about you or anybody else.
- 7:28Speaker 1: You don't want you? Is a guy offended?
- 7:30Speaker 2: Yes, some men are. The answer is yes, go and
- 7:35Speaker 2: I can tell you that.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Look, I cannot explain why I felt the way I did,
- 7:41Speaker 3: but I think it was around eleven. I was living
- 7:44Speaker 3: in Saint Louis, and I think that's when it first
- 7:46Speaker 3: dawned on me that women typically in this country specifically,
- 7:51Speaker 3: And we'll get into that because it's very interesting globally
- 7:54Speaker 3: how different cultures in different countries address this issue. But
- 7:59Speaker 3: I think it first dawned on me that, oh my god.
- 8:03Speaker 3: And I was a young girl who was so excited
- 8:06Speaker 3: and swept up in romance, wanted to get married, but
- 8:09Speaker 3: suddenly the idea of changing my last.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Name really jarred me.
- 8:14Speaker 3: And it was right around eleven years old, and I
- 8:16Speaker 3: remember I walked downstairs and I said, just so you
- 8:18Speaker 3: guys know, I'm never changing my last name, and they
- 8:21Speaker 3: laughed at me and they're like okay, and I just
- 8:24Speaker 3: I don't know. I felt impassioned by it. I was like,
- 8:27Speaker 3: this is who I am, this is how I'm regarded,
- 8:29Speaker 3: this is how I think of myself. And it seemed
- 8:33Speaker 3: strange to me to lose a part of who I was,
- 8:38Speaker 3: to take on something that I wasn't yet and didn't
- 8:42Speaker 3: know that I wanted to become.
- 8:43Speaker 2: I don't know. It's weird.
- 8:44Speaker 3: I can't really explain it. But I felt strongly about it,
- 8:47Speaker 3: and I was the outlier.
- 8:49Speaker 1: But that's fine. You do you everybody else.
- 8:51Speaker 2: It's not fine with everybody.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Though, but it's fine, of course it is. Why does
- 8:56Speaker 1: anybody have a problem with what your individual choice is?
- 8:59Speaker 1: Why do you have a problem with anybody else's You
- 9:01Speaker 1: don't knock yourselves out? Who cares do it or don't
- 9:06Speaker 1: do it? I just I don't know why criticism of
- 9:10Speaker 1: anyone for doing it or not doing it. A guy
- 9:12Speaker 1: being upset at a woman not wanting to call She's
- 9:16Speaker 1: had a name for thirty two years of her life,
- 9:18Speaker 1: and now she's gonna marry you, and you're upset she
- 9:21Speaker 1: doesn't want it now. I like the idea of it.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I like the idea of a family unit. I that part. Oh,
- 9:27Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I wow, we're gonna get mad.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Who's mad on either side?
- 9:34Speaker 2: You're a progressive man? God upset?
- 9:38Speaker 3: Yes?
- 9:39Speaker 2: Yes, there are certain.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Expectations I think, especially in this country, that a woman
- 9:46Speaker 3: would take her husband's name. Now, let me ask you this.
- 9:50Speaker 3: You've been married before, has any woman not taken your
- 9:55Speaker 3: last name? No? Okay, so when we get married, if
- 10:00Speaker 3: I do not take your last name. It sounds like
- 10:03Speaker 3: you're not going to be upset.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Now and the least. But what am I supposed say?
- 10:09Speaker 2: Do you have any expectation? Would you like it? I
- 10:11Speaker 2: would you like it? If I changed my last name?
- 10:13Speaker 1: It would be fun. Oh it would be a blast.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Oh god, it would be fucking incredible. Oh yes, god, yeah,
- 10:19Speaker 1: why would you like it? I'm curious because of what
- 10:22Speaker 1: I just described. You're a home. You're a unit, right.
- 10:25Speaker 1: We we buy houses, we buy cars, all right, these
- 10:29Speaker 1: things we purchased, now I have two different last names
- 10:33Speaker 1: on them. Okay, that's fine, people do it. But yes,
- 10:37Speaker 1: there's something about that that feels like a unit.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I like the idea of it too, like one hundred percent.
- 10:42Speaker 1: I am with you.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I get it. We're a unit.
- 10:44Speaker 3: And there are countries who actually demand it. Among them Japan,
- 10:48Speaker 3: where you have to if you are married, you have
- 10:51Speaker 3: to have the same last name. Now, it doesn't have
- 10:53Speaker 3: to be the man's last name. It almost always is.
- 10:58Speaker 3: But you could take yep, you could take the females Last.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Week would you want me to do that? Uh huh,
- 11:04Speaker 1: here we go.
- 11:05Speaker 3: I would never ask you to, you know I would
- 11:09Speaker 3: want me to. If I know, I wouldn't why you
- 11:12Speaker 3: wouldn't what I wouldn't want you to?
- 11:15Speaker 1: Okay, if I said, I just want to make this gesture,
- 11:17Speaker 1: I think it would be nice we have the same.
- 11:20Speaker 3: You would you know, so I can actually tell you
- 11:22Speaker 3: what my idea would be. Let's hyphenate or let's drop
- 11:26Speaker 3: our middle names. You don't even have a middle name,
- 11:29Speaker 3: so let's figure out something that's us together. I would
- 11:32Speaker 3: be willing to do that. I like the idea of that.
- 11:34Speaker 3: I know it's complicated. I know it's much simpler for
- 11:37Speaker 3: one person to say, fine, let's just take your last name.
- 11:41Speaker 3: I get it.
- 11:41Speaker 1: But you, little miss, I don't want to change my
- 11:45Speaker 1: last name since I was eleven. The guy is coming
- 11:48Speaker 1: to you and saying, hey, I will change my last name.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I would like to, and your response to me is what.
- 11:58Speaker 3: I for the same reasons that I don't want to
- 12:02Speaker 3: change my last name, I wouldn't want to place that
- 12:06Speaker 3: expectation on you. But you're not.
- 12:07Speaker 1: You're not okay.
- 12:08Speaker 2: You told me you want to Yes, for.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Whatever reason, I don't like it because now it feels
- 12:16Speaker 4: like I'm responsible. It's funny like I've never thought about that.
- 12:22Speaker 4: I've never even asked, And I'm just being honest. It
- 12:25Speaker 4: feels what strange? Okay, why it feels strange?
- 12:30Speaker 1: Man?
- 12:31Speaker 2: Yes, because I would. My question would be why would
- 12:34Speaker 2: you want?
- 12:35Speaker 1: Because I want our family to be one name unit.
- 12:40Speaker 2: We're not having kids together, so that's even stranger to me.
- 12:43Speaker 1: We don't know that.
- 12:46Speaker 3: I can pretty much assure you. Other than adoption. I
- 12:51Speaker 3: can't imagine how it would be possible. But the point
- 12:54Speaker 3: being is I fine, that's my own.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Sciat all.
- 13:02Speaker 3: I don't know imprinting where I somehow think that feels
- 13:06Speaker 3: strange and I would never not only I would never
- 13:09Speaker 3: expect it, but I wouldn't ask it, and I don't
- 13:11Speaker 3: think I would want it.
- 13:13Speaker 2: I'm being honest. I don't think I would want it.
- 13:16Speaker 2: To change names, that is my preference.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Okay, how about this, then, sweetheart, would you change your
- 13:24Speaker 1: last name once we get married.
- 13:29Speaker 3: I would be open to the idea of hyphenating my name,
- 13:35Speaker 3: but I would not lose Roeboch.
- 13:37Speaker 2: I would not.
- 13:38Speaker 3: It's just been with me. It's part of who I am.
- 13:40Speaker 3: It's part of my family, and I understand that's on
- 13:44Speaker 3: my dad's side. I understand my mom's maiden name of
- 13:46Speaker 3: Stoffel is not a part of my name at all,
- 13:49Speaker 3: and I do think that's sad too. But at the
- 13:53Speaker 3: end of the day, I wouldn't lose roboch. No.
- 13:57Speaker 2: I wouldn't be willing.
- 13:58Speaker 3: I would be willing to lose my middle name, mostly
- 14:00Speaker 3: because I just don't really like it that much, but
- 14:04Speaker 3: I wouldn't be willing to lose my last name.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Would you be willing to give up your last.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Name already just established?
- 14:12Speaker 3: But you were saying it in a hypothetical scenario, like
- 14:17Speaker 3: genuinely you would say, Okay, I will drop.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Holmes from my name.
- 14:24Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my goodness, Why haven't you then if it
- 14:27Speaker 3: wasn't drop name and changed what to whoever your wife's
- 14:32Speaker 3: last name?
- 14:32Speaker 1: Was it up?
- 14:33Speaker 2: Okay?
- 14:35Speaker 1: This first time I've had such a discussion.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Obviously, it's not typical or normal.
- 14:38Speaker 3: In fact, I do believe I have the percentages on that,
- 14:42Speaker 3: and it was actually more than I thought. I want
- 14:46Speaker 3: to get it right, Okay, this is so funny. I
- 14:50Speaker 3: believe it is five percent of men, which was more.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Than I thought.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Wait, I want to make sure I could this right,
- 15:02Speaker 3: and like one percent hyphenate, but less than five percent
- 15:06Speaker 3: have actually changed their name.
- 15:07Speaker 2: And that was a higher percentage than I thought.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I thought there'd be a higher percentage of hyphenation.
- 15:12Speaker 3: It was only one percent hyphenated men only like women. Yes,
- 15:17Speaker 3: much higher. Well, actually, this is kind of insane. Only
- 15:22Speaker 3: fourteen percent of women in this latest Pew Research Center
- 15:27Speaker 3: survey kept their maiden name in the United States, so
- 15:31Speaker 3: I am in the vast minority. And five percent chose
- 15:35Speaker 3: to hyphenate. So we're going to go with about twenty
- 15:37Speaker 3: percent of women in this country currently kept either their
- 15:42Speaker 3: own last name or hyphenated their last name. But eighty
- 15:46Speaker 3: percent of women have changed their name to their husband's name,
- 15:51Speaker 3: so it is a huge majority of women in this
- 15:55Speaker 3: country have chosen to do it. I didn't realize that
- 15:58Speaker 3: I was in such a minority. I knew I was
- 16:02Speaker 3: in a minority. I didn't realize it was that significant. No,
- 16:06Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to be actually not even at all.
- 16:09Speaker 3: The only thing I will say is, given my history
- 16:12Speaker 3: in marriage, it actually created a lot less headaches. I
- 16:15Speaker 3: didn't have to go to the DMV as often, but
- 16:20Speaker 3: for me was more of a It was just something
- 16:23Speaker 3: that was inside of me. It wasn't something I read
- 16:26Speaker 3: or something I wanted to some thing I wanted to
- 16:30Speaker 3: like put out there, or some line in the sand
- 16:33Speaker 3: I wanted to draw.
- 16:33Speaker 2: It was just a personal preference. So that is interesting.
- 16:38Speaker 3: And anyway, it turns out that yes, in this country,
- 16:43Speaker 3: most women keep their last names. But do you know
- 16:47Speaker 3: who is most likely to keep their last names? We
- 16:50Speaker 3: have that information for you. Pretty interesting and the history
- 16:54Speaker 3: behind taking your husband's name. Welcome back everyone. We are,
- 17:08Speaker 3: of course talking about Millie Bobby Brown. I guess now
- 17:11Speaker 3: she will be known as Millie Bonnie bon Jovi. And
- 17:15Speaker 3: she's at twenty one, married to Jake bon Jovi, of
- 17:19Speaker 3: course John bon Jovi's son. They just welcome to child
- 17:22Speaker 3: into their lives. And she made it known to everyone
- 17:24Speaker 3: that she is changing her last name. Actually maybe uncommon
- 17:28Speaker 3: when we think about Hollywood starlet's or women who have
- 17:32Speaker 3: made a name for themselves in entertainment, but she joins
- 17:36Speaker 3: the vast majority of American women eighty percent of women
- 17:39Speaker 3: who take their husband's last name after marriage. Now can
- 17:44Speaker 3: you imagine I'm just curious, babe, because you didn't look
- 17:47Speaker 3: at these statistics, who is most likely to keep their
- 17:52Speaker 3: last name in this country? Can you think of like
- 17:54Speaker 3: if you were to describe a woman, who would be
- 17:57Speaker 3: the woman who would keep her last name? Younger versus yes,
- 18:01Speaker 3: all of that age younger versus older younger Obviously, twenty
- 18:05Speaker 3: percent of married women ages eighteen to forty nine say
- 18:08Speaker 3: they kept their last name, compared with just nine percent
- 18:11Speaker 3: of women who are ages fifty and older.
- 18:13Speaker 2: That makes sense. How about education? What would you think.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Higher percentage of lower educated?
- 18:21Speaker 3: Yeah, so twenty six percent of women with a postgraduate
- 18:24Speaker 3: degree kept their last name. Thirteen percent of those with
- 18:28Speaker 3: a bachelor's degree or less took their husband's last name.
- 18:33Speaker 2: So, yes, you are correct. How about Republicans versus Democrats?
- 18:36Speaker 1: This is Republican.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Yes, a pretty big distinction.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Yes, Democratic women are the most likely to say twenty
- 18:44Speaker 3: five percent of them say they kept their last name.
- 18:46Speaker 3: Just seven percent of Republican women said they kept their
- 18:49Speaker 3: last wame.
- 18:49Speaker 1: Why are they so obvious about us?
- 18:52Speaker 2: I don't know, it is obvious.
- 18:53Speaker 1: I'm not so smart or anything, but.
- 18:56Speaker 2: It was obvious.
- 18:57Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 18:58Speaker 2: How about this? Among can you? Can you get this?
- 19:01Speaker 2: One might throw you?
- 19:03Speaker 3: What and well, any of the above, any race that
- 19:08Speaker 3: you can think of, Hispanic, Asian, white, Black, Yes.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, the highest percent, My goodness, what was
- 19:16Speaker 1: the black as.
- 19:16Speaker 2: The highest Hispanic women.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Thirty percent of Hispanic women say they kept their last name, oh,
- 19:23Speaker 3: compared to just ten percent of white women and nine
- 19:26Speaker 3: percent of Black women. So Hispanic women are far more likely.
- 19:30Speaker 3: And by the way, black women are more likely than
- 19:33Speaker 3: any other race to hyphenate their name with their spouse's name.
- 19:38Speaker 2: I thought that was.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Interesting as well, and I think most of us know
- 19:42Speaker 3: the history behind taking a man's name, and I don't
- 19:46Speaker 3: even think this played into any of my decisions. But obviously,
- 19:49Speaker 3: at some point in our lives, English common law women
- 19:52Speaker 3: didn't have rights. We couldn't vote, we couldn't own property,
- 19:55Speaker 3: and so yes, we had to join one family from
- 20:00Speaker 3: the other. So we left our father and we had
- 20:02Speaker 3: to then join our husband, and that is how we
- 20:04Speaker 3: had any right.
- 20:05Speaker 2: It was through our husbands.
- 20:07Speaker 3: That was who we had authority through, and therefore we
- 20:10Speaker 3: took their last name to have some sort of legal
- 20:14Speaker 3: standing or some sort of legal right.
- 20:16Speaker 2: And so that was the history behind it.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Although that's not necessarily why women make the decisions they make.
- 20:23Speaker 2: But I thought this was interesting.
- 20:24Speaker 3: Did you know that in Spain and in Latin America,
- 20:28Speaker 3: women traditionally keep their maiden names and children are given
- 20:33Speaker 3: both of their parents' surnames.
- 20:35Speaker 2: I did not know that. H that reads that works okay.
- 20:39Speaker 3: Also, interestingly, in China and Korea, women typically keep their
- 20:45Speaker 3: last names even after marriage. But in all this idea
- 20:49Speaker 3: of like, oh, women aren't property and we aren't owned
- 20:52Speaker 3: by our husbands, I thought this was one of the
- 20:54Speaker 3: most interesting facts that I found just researching this Middle
- 20:58Speaker 3: Eastern and Muslim countries. It is the custom for women
- 21:03Speaker 3: to keep their names after marriage. They are not taking
- 21:08Speaker 3: their husband's name, and so in these cultures that we
- 21:11Speaker 3: might assign this idea that somehow women are the property
- 21:15Speaker 3: of men, they don't have rights. Those are actually the
- 21:17Speaker 3: countries where women keep their last names, so obviously to
- 21:23Speaker 3: each his own. I've never ever felt any way about
- 21:27Speaker 3: a woman who chooses to change their last name. I
- 21:29Speaker 3: think that's awesome. I think I kind of wished I
- 21:33Speaker 3: wanted to and leaned into it. I just I've never
- 21:37Speaker 3: not only have I not felt the desire, I just
- 21:39Speaker 3: I don't know I felt vocal about it. Maybe that
- 21:42Speaker 3: was off putting. I'm not sure, but I appreciate the
- 21:44Speaker 3: fact that you're cool either way. And I actually haven't
- 21:48Speaker 3: even made a decision about what we will do when
- 21:51Speaker 3: we get married, but I'm kind of open to at
- 21:53Speaker 3: this point in my life. I do like the idea
- 21:56Speaker 3: of unity. I do think that's cool.
- 21:59Speaker 1: All right, got to rethink this thing now, so funks.
- 22:02Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you spending some time with us
- 22:06Speaker 1: on behalf of my dear amy always Robock, I'm Lutilius Robock. Potentially,
- 22:13Speaker 1: we'll talk to y'all soon.