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- 0:00Speaker 1: In December of two thousand and five, a young woman
- 0:02Speaker 1: walked down a sidewalk in New York City. There were
- 0:05Speaker 1: Christmas decorations on all the buildings and Christmas lights.
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- 0:09Speaker 1: But as she walked along, she glanced over at a
- 0:12Speaker 1: newspaper stand and she saw something on the front page
- 0:16Speaker 1: of that paper that literally made her stop in her tracks.
- 0:19Speaker 1: And not because it was festive, it was awful. Right
- 0:22Speaker 1: there on the front page was a picture of the
- 0:25Speaker 1: one thing in her life that she'd hoped she would
- 0:28Speaker 1: never ever see again. But before we get into today's story,
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- 1:03Speaker 1: Story early on the evening of Sunday, November twenty seventh,
- 1:26Speaker 1: two thousand and five, a twenty one year old woman
- 1:29Speaker 1: named Catherine Woods leaned towards the mirror to put on
- 1:32Speaker 1: her eyeliner inside the bathroom of her small apartment in
- 1:35Speaker 1: New York City. Catherine's phone was sitting on the bathroom
- 1:38Speaker 1: counter and she heard it bus, but.
- 1:40Speaker 2: She didn't even look to see who was calling.
- 1:42Speaker 1: She didn't have time to talk to anyone because she
- 1:44Speaker 1: had to finish getting ready for her seven o'clock shift
- 1:46Speaker 1: at work. So Catherine had moved to New York City
- 1:49Speaker 1: from Ohio three years earlier to pursue her dream of
- 1:52Speaker 1: becoming a dancer on Broadway. But everything here was so
- 1:55Speaker 1: expensive that in addition to chasing her dream, she also
- 1:58Speaker 1: had to work three different just to make ends meet. Now,
- 2:02Speaker 1: two of those jobs were pretty standard. She worked as
- 2:04Speaker 1: a waitress and also taught children's dance classes. But tonight
- 2:08Speaker 1: she was getting ready to go to her third job,
- 2:10Speaker 1: and this job was not really standard at all. In fact,
- 2:13Speaker 1: to her, she was sort of embarrassed about it, and
- 2:16Speaker 1: because of that, she was keeping it a secret from almost.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Everybody in her life.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Her third job was working as a topless dancer at
- 2:23Speaker 1: a strip club near Times Square called Flash Dancers. Catherine
- 2:27Speaker 1: honestly hated the work, but it paid really well, and
- 2:30Speaker 1: if she wanted to have her shot at Broadway, she
- 2:32Speaker 1: needed to pay for voice lessons and dance classes. Now,
- 2:36Speaker 1: she did live in Manhattan, which was the most expensive
- 2:39Speaker 1: part of the already very expensive city, and she knew
- 2:42Speaker 1: that she could save some money if she just moved
- 2:44Speaker 1: to a neighborhood where rent was cheaper. But when she
- 2:47Speaker 1: had first moved to New York, she had lived in
- 2:49Speaker 1: a less expensive neighborhood for that reason, and unfortunately, her
- 2:54Speaker 1: landlord had sexually assaulted her. The experience had been so
- 2:57Speaker 1: traumatic that Catherine had at the time just leaving New
- 3:01Speaker 1: York and going back to Ohio and just being done
- 3:03Speaker 1: with this place. But in the end, she had decided
- 3:06Speaker 1: to stay in New York and continue chasing her dream.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Now she did move within New York.
- 3:11Speaker 1: She'd gotten this apartment in Manhattan because it was a
- 3:14Speaker 1: lot safer, and she also got a roommate to help
- 3:16Speaker 1: with the cost.
- 3:17Speaker 2: His name was David Hahn.
- 3:19Speaker 1: He was twenty three, and he was one of Catherine's
- 3:21Speaker 1: friends from back home in Ohio. But at this very moment,
- 3:24Speaker 1: David was not inside the apartment. He'd gone outside to
- 3:27Speaker 1: get his car so we could drive Catherine to work.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Catherine finished her makeup and left the bathroom, and as
- 3:33Speaker 1: she walked through the living room, she stepped over a
- 3:35Speaker 1: black dog that was sleeping on the floor. The dog
- 3:37Speaker 1: was not Catherine's, and it actually was not David's either.
- 3:40Speaker 1: David was a part time dog sitter, so this dog
- 3:43Speaker 1: was just staying with them while its owners were out
- 3:45Speaker 1: of town. Just like Catherine, David also had a bunch
- 3:48Speaker 1: of part time jobs to help make ends meet. When
- 3:50Speaker 1: he wasn't dog sitting, he worked as a doorman at
- 3:52Speaker 1: a hotel just up the street from their apartment. Now,
- 3:55Speaker 1: Catherine and David had actually been romantic at one point.
- 3:58Speaker 1: They had dated for a little while, but these days
- 4:01Speaker 1: they were just roommates living together to split the bills,
- 4:03Speaker 1: although secretly Catherine did sometimes wonder, if, you know, maybe
- 4:07Speaker 1: they should give it another shot to try being a
- 4:09Speaker 1: couple again. Thanksgiving had been a few days ago, and
- 4:12Speaker 1: instead of going home to Ohio like she usually did,
- 4:14Speaker 1: Catherine had stayed in New York and celebrated with David.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And it had been a really nice time.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Plus, David knew about.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Catherine's third job of working at Flash Dancers, and he
- 4:23Speaker 1: didn't judge her for it, and Catherine felt like a
- 4:26Speaker 1: lot of people did, so she liked that about him.
- 4:28Speaker 1: But the biggest hurdle that Catherine could see to potentially
- 4:31Speaker 1: rekindling their relationship was the fact that David disliked basically
- 4:36Speaker 1: every man she met, whether she.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Was dating them or not. He just did not like them.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Now, some of these guys, she could understand why David,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you know, didn't like them, Like there was this guy Joe,
- 4:45Speaker 1: that she had dated briefly, who really she had only
- 4:48Speaker 1: met because he was a patron of her strip club.
- 4:50Speaker 1: But then there were people like Paul, who was a
- 4:52Speaker 1: personal trainer at Catherine's gym, who she'd only seen off
- 4:55Speaker 1: and on, and who was nothing but nice to David.
- 4:58Speaker 1: And even though Paul and Catherine were not dating now
- 5:00Speaker 1: and mostly just spoke on the phone periodically, David still
- 5:04Speaker 1: insisted that Paul was a creep.
- 5:05Speaker 2: He just did not like the guy.
- 5:07Speaker 1: But for now, Catherine figured, you know what, I'm not
- 5:10Speaker 1: going to figure out my entire romantic life. I just
- 5:12Speaker 1: need to finish getting ready and go downstairs so she
- 5:15Speaker 1: wouldn't keep David waiting. So Catherine went into her bedroom
- 5:18Speaker 1: and began getting dressed, and that's when she heard that
- 5:21Speaker 1: dog start barking at something in the living room, and
- 5:24Speaker 1: so curious, Catherine walked in that direction to see what
- 5:28Speaker 1: was going on. A little while later, Catherine's roommate, David,
- 5:35Speaker 1: walked quickly along the sidewalk to get his car, which
- 5:38Speaker 1: was parked aways up the street. He was out of
- 5:41Speaker 1: breath by the time he reached it. He knew he
- 5:43Speaker 1: had to hurry, so he jumped in and he drove
- 5:45Speaker 1: back to the apartment building and he called Catherine as
- 5:47Speaker 1: he pulled up out front. When she didn't answer, he
- 5:50Speaker 1: threw on his hazards and he climbed back out to
- 5:52Speaker 1: go into the building to go get her. And he
- 5:54Speaker 1: had just made it up the flight of stairs that
- 5:56Speaker 1: led to his second floor apartment, and he was going
- 5:58Speaker 1: down the hallway when he saw something that made him
- 6:01Speaker 1: come to an abrupt stop. It was that black dog
- 6:03Speaker 1: that he was dog sitting. Somehow, it had gotten out
- 6:06Speaker 1: of the apartment and was just standing there in the
- 6:09Speaker 1: shared hallway.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Outside of his apartment door.
- 6:12Speaker 1: David blinked and then realized that his neighbor, a man
- 6:14Speaker 1: he rarely interacted with named Brad Stewart, was standing right
- 6:18Speaker 1: behind the dog, and Brad was holding a leash that
- 6:21Speaker 1: was clearly clipped onto the dog's collar. For a second,
- 6:24Speaker 1: Brad looked surprised, and David was just completely confused about
- 6:28Speaker 1: why this guy had the dog that he was dog
- 6:29Speaker 1: sitting on a leash.
- 6:31Speaker 2: But then Brad told David that he had found.
- 6:33Speaker 1: The dog wandering around, recognized it as David's, and brought
- 6:37Speaker 1: it back to his apartment. Brad said he had just
- 6:39Speaker 1: knocked on David's apartment door, but so far nobody had answered,
- 6:42Speaker 1: so at this point David understood, you know why Brad
- 6:45Speaker 1: has the dog, but he didn't know why the dog
- 6:48Speaker 1: was out of the apartment in the first place, but
- 6:50Speaker 1: he kept that to himself and just thanked Brad took
- 6:52Speaker 1: the leash and then stepped over to the door of
- 6:54Speaker 1: his apartment number two D. The apartment door was shut,
- 6:58Speaker 1: but when he turned the handle, he found that it
- 7:00Speaker 1: was unlocked. David couldn't remember if he had left it
- 7:02Speaker 1: unlocked or not, so he just opened it and he
- 7:05Speaker 1: called out Catherine's name, but there was no answer, which
- 7:08Speaker 1: was weird, so he stepped inside. Now he didn't see Catherine,
- 7:12Speaker 1: but he did see the door to her bedroom was
- 7:14Speaker 1: slightly cracked open, so he walked over to it and
- 7:16Speaker 1: he called out to her again, and then when she
- 7:19Speaker 1: didn't call back, he tried pushing her door open, but
- 7:21Speaker 1: the door didn't really open. It instead swung maybe a
- 7:25Speaker 1: few inches, and then stopped, and David felt resistance on
- 7:28Speaker 1: the other side, like something maybe on the ground was
- 7:31Speaker 1: holding the door from.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Opening all the way.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And so, now with all these strange things happening, David
- 7:35Speaker 1: starting to feel pretty worried, and so the surge of
- 7:38Speaker 1: adrenaline came over him and he just shoved the door
- 7:40Speaker 1: open and he stuck his head in and he looked inside,
- 7:44Speaker 1: and when he saw what was in there, he immediately
- 7:46Speaker 1: pulled back, turned around, ran into the hallway, and he
- 7:50Speaker 1: called the police. A half an hour later, around seven
- 7:56Speaker 1: thirty PM, an NYPD detective named Stephen Getz walked up
- 8:00Speaker 1: a flight of stairs at an apartment building in Manhattan.
- 8:03Speaker 1: This part of the city was known to be extremely safe.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Homicides never really happened here, but if the nine to
- 8:09Speaker 1: one one caller had been telling the truth.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Gets knew that.
- 8:13Speaker 1: A potential grizzly murder scene was in fact waiting for
- 8:16Speaker 1: him in Apartment two D. When he reached the second
- 8:19Speaker 1: floor landing, he saw there were already a few other
- 8:22Speaker 1: NYPD officers on the scene, and one of them was
- 8:25Speaker 1: speaking to this young, skinny guy standing in the hallway
- 8:27Speaker 1: who looked really upset, and he was holding a leash
- 8:30Speaker 1: that was connected to a black dog. Another officer walked
- 8:33Speaker 1: over to Getz and filled him in. He said the
- 8:35Speaker 1: man that was being spoken to was the victim's roommate,
- 8:37Speaker 1: David Hawn, and he was the one who had found the.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Body and called nine to one one.
- 8:42Speaker 1: The victim, Catherine Woods, was inside the apartment in the
- 8:45Speaker 1: back bedroom. Gets nodded and then walked down the hallway,
- 8:49Speaker 1: passed David and.
- 8:49Speaker 2: The dog toward the apartment door.
- 8:52Speaker 1: His plan was to look at the scene himself before
- 8:55Speaker 1: he began questioning anyone. Gets put on some disposable rubber
- 8:58Speaker 1: gloves and checked out the doorframe to the actual apartment,
- 9:02Speaker 1: and then he also looked at the door itself, but
- 9:04Speaker 1: he didn't see any damage that could signify fourth sentry.
- 9:07Speaker 1: So he stepped into the apartment and he saw that
- 9:10Speaker 1: the small living room was a little bit messy, but
- 9:12Speaker 1: it wasn't like it had been ransacked or something, you know.
- 9:15Speaker 1: The futon was pulled out, and there were some men's
- 9:17Speaker 1: clothes strewn around, but it sort of looked like.
- 9:19Speaker 2: A typical place that people lived. And so Gets walked through.
- 9:22Speaker 1: The living room, being careful not to disturb anything, and
- 9:25Speaker 1: he went towards what he assumed was the bedroom where
- 9:28Speaker 1: the body was. The door was open just wide enough
- 9:30Speaker 1: that Gets was able to get through, and when he
- 9:33Speaker 1: stepped through and was inside the room, he saw blood everywhere.
- 9:38Speaker 1: It was all over the walls and the furniture, and
- 9:41Speaker 1: the room itself looked like it had been completely torn apart.
- 9:44Speaker 1: One of the dresser drawers was open, and lots of
- 9:46Speaker 1: women's clothing was scattered all over the place, and the
- 9:49Speaker 1: mattress had been completely taken off the bedframe and was
- 9:52Speaker 1: now lying on the floor. And that's actually what was
- 9:54Speaker 1: blocking the door from opening all the way. And then
- 9:57Speaker 1: in the middle of the room, in a pool of blood,
- 10:00Speaker 1: the body of a young woman. Gets new from the
- 10:03Speaker 1: nine to one to one call that her name was
- 10:05Speaker 1: Catherine Woods. He walked over and squatted down next to
- 10:08Speaker 1: her for a closer look. She was wearing a T
- 10:10Speaker 1: shirt and underwear, and the T shirt had a very
- 10:13Speaker 1: obvious shoeprint on it, like whoever had killed Catherine had
- 10:17Speaker 1: stepped on her, and there were at least a dozen
- 10:19Speaker 1: stab wounds all.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Over her body.
- 10:21Speaker 1: There were also what appeared to be defensive wounds on
- 10:24Speaker 1: her hands and arms, which Gets new meant she must
- 10:27Speaker 1: have fought back against her attacker. But the worst injuries
- 10:30Speaker 1: she sustained were definitely to her neck. Whoever had killed
- 10:33Speaker 1: her had slit her throat so deeply that they had
- 10:36Speaker 1: almost decapitated her, and so to Gets right away, it
- 10:40Speaker 1: seemed like whoever killed Catherine had been.
- 10:42Speaker 2: In an absolute rage.
- 10:44Speaker 1: At that point, Gets heard footsteps coming from behind him,
- 10:48Speaker 1: and he stood up and he turned around to see
- 10:50Speaker 1: that the NYPD forensics team had arrived. Now, the block
- 10:53Speaker 1: door was making maneuvering in and out of this bedroom
- 10:55Speaker 1: pretty difficult, so one of the first things the forensics
- 10:58Speaker 1: team did was to pick up the mattress and carefully
- 11:01Speaker 1: lean it against the wall so the bedroom door could
- 11:03Speaker 1: now swing open all the way. Then Detective Gets just
- 11:06Speaker 1: stepped back and let the forensics team get to work.
- 11:09Speaker 1: He watched as they pulled that shoeprint off the T
- 11:11Speaker 1: shirt Kathroom was wearing, and then also there was a
- 11:14Speaker 1: second identical shoeprint that was on her bed sheets that
- 11:16Speaker 1: they also grabbed to Gets. Both of these prints did
- 11:19Speaker 1: appear to be from the exact same shoe, and to
- 11:22Speaker 1: the naked eye, these prints appeared, at least to Gads
- 11:25Speaker 1: to belong to very likely an average sized man. Detective
- 11:29Speaker 1: Gets was immediately curious about something, so he stepped out
- 11:32Speaker 1: of the bedroom into the living room, and he quickly
- 11:34Speaker 1: found a couple pairs of men's shoes lying on the floor,
- 11:37Speaker 1: and although the tread of these shoes did not match
- 11:40Speaker 1: the prints he had just seen in the bedroom, they
- 11:42Speaker 1: did appear to be the exact same size. An hour later,
- 11:56Speaker 1: at about eight thirty pm on November twenty seventh, two
- 11:58Speaker 1: thousand and five, Detective Gets sat down at a table
- 12:01Speaker 1: inside of an interview room at the NYPD's nineteenth Precinct,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and once he did, he handed a bottle of water
- 12:07Speaker 1: across the table to David Hahn, the roommate of the
- 12:10Speaker 1: murder victim and Detective Gets current number one suspect. There
- 12:15Speaker 1: had been no sign of forced entry at the apartment
- 12:17Speaker 1: that David and Catherine shared, which meant that Catherine's killer
- 12:21Speaker 1: either had access to the apartment or was let inside
- 12:24Speaker 1: by somebody who did. And the murder had been committed
- 12:27Speaker 1: with a knife in a really savage way that struck
- 12:30Speaker 1: gets as being a personally motivated attack. Even though Catherine's
- 12:34Speaker 1: bedroom had been trashed, nothing seemed to have been stolen,
- 12:37Speaker 1: and because Catherine had been found partially undressed, there was
- 12:41Speaker 1: potentially a sexual motive at play as well. So Getz's
- 12:44Speaker 1: working theory here was that this murder was committed by
- 12:47Speaker 1: a man who knew the victim well and had easy
- 12:49Speaker 1: access to her living space, and David fit that profile
- 12:53Speaker 1: to a t. Plus he apparently wore the same size
- 12:56Speaker 1: shoe as the killer. Although as detective gets settled into
- 13:00Speaker 1: his chair and brought out his notepad, he did a
- 13:03Speaker 1: quick scan of David's forearms in his hands, and he
- 13:06Speaker 1: saw that David had no visible cut, scrapes, or bruises.
- 13:10Speaker 1: The detective thought that Catherine's killer likely would have some
- 13:13Speaker 1: injuries there because she had obviously been fighting for her life,
- 13:16Speaker 1: she would have left a mark on them, but Getz
- 13:18Speaker 1: didn't say anything about this to David. Instead, he just
- 13:21Speaker 1: leaned forward and he asked David to walk him through
- 13:24Speaker 1: what had happened that day. David's hands were shaking a bit,
- 13:26Speaker 1: but he took a deep breath to calm himself, and
- 13:29Speaker 1: he said that he had been at the apartment with
- 13:31Speaker 1: Catherine that night until about six forty pm. That was
- 13:35Speaker 1: when he had left to go get his car so
- 13:36Speaker 1: he could come back and drive Katherine to her seven
- 13:39Speaker 1: o'clock shift at Flash Dancers. But he said retrieving his
- 13:43Speaker 1: car had taken longer than he expected because on the
- 13:46Speaker 1: way he had run into some of his coworkers from
- 13:48Speaker 1: his dorman job, and he had stopped to chat with him.
- 13:51Speaker 1: He said, after he had done that and he had
- 13:53Speaker 1: gotten his car and he went back to the apartment,
- 13:55Speaker 1: he had expected Catherine to be waiting outside by the curb,
- 13:59Speaker 1: but when he got there, there was no sign of her,
- 14:02Speaker 1: and she didn't answer when he called her, so David
- 14:04Speaker 1: said he'd ultimately gone inside and ran upstairs to the apartment,
- 14:08Speaker 1: and in the hallway he had found his neighbor Brad,
- 14:10Speaker 1: who was oddly holding the leash of the black dog
- 14:13Speaker 1: that David was supposed to be looking after. And then
- 14:15Speaker 1: David said he went into his apartment and that's when
- 14:18Speaker 1: he found Catherine's body.
- 14:19Speaker 2: David said he had called.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Nine to one one right away. It was right around
- 14:22Speaker 1: seven pm. And at this get stopped writing on the
- 14:25Speaker 1: notepad and just looked up at David.
- 14:28Speaker 2: He couldn't believe what he was hearing.
- 14:30Speaker 1: David was claiming that he'd only been out of the
- 14:32Speaker 1: apartment for twenty minutes, and that in that narrow window
- 14:35Speaker 1: of time, Catherine had been brutally murdered and the.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Killer had also escaped.
- 14:40Speaker 1: It honestly sounded like one of the worst alibis Gets
- 14:43Speaker 1: had ever heard, but he didn't want David to know
- 14:46Speaker 1: just how close he was to getting arrested for murder
- 14:48Speaker 1: because he didn't want David to get scared and stop talking,
- 14:52Speaker 1: So Getz kept his tone very sympathetic as he asked
- 14:54Speaker 1: how long David had known Catherine for. David said they
- 14:57Speaker 1: had met back in Ohio a few years ago while
- 15:00Speaker 1: Catherine was visiting her hometown. He had begun dating, and
- 15:02Speaker 1: he had ultimately moved out to New York to live
- 15:04Speaker 1: with her, but it wasn't long before Catherine.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Broke up with him. And then asked him to move out.
- 15:10Speaker 1: But David said he had not been able to afford
- 15:12Speaker 1: his own place, so he had started sleeping in his car,
- 15:16Speaker 1: and Catherine had felt bad about that, so she had
- 15:18Speaker 1: ultimately let him move back in on the condition that
- 15:21Speaker 1: he slept on the futon out in the living room.
- 15:24Speaker 1: By now, Detective Gets His pen was flying across the
- 15:27Speaker 1: page because David was not just Catherine's roommate, he was
- 15:30Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend, an ex boyfriend who was the last
- 15:34Speaker 1: person to see Catherine alive and.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Discovered her body.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Gets was more confident than ever that he was sitting
- 15:40Speaker 1: across from Catherine's killer. He told David that everything he
- 15:43Speaker 1: was saying was incredibly helpful, but right now he needed
- 15:46Speaker 1: to go check on something.
- 15:47Speaker 2: David agreed to wait, and Get stood.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Up to leave, but he stopped at the door and
- 15:52Speaker 1: he asked David for one last thing.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Before he left.
- 15:54Speaker 1: He asked what his shoe size was, and without missing
- 15:57Speaker 1: a beat, David answered that he wore a tenant out half.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Gets jotted this down and then he left. What he
- 16:03Speaker 1: hadn't told David was the reason he was stepping out
- 16:06Speaker 1: of the room was to go get some information from
- 16:08Speaker 1: the NYPD's forensics team and the uniformed officers who were
- 16:12Speaker 1: currently questioning David's neighbors, and once Gets had that information,
- 16:16Speaker 1: he was going to use it to try to catch
- 16:18Speaker 1: David and a lie. About nineteen hours later, so about
- 16:26Speaker 1: three pm the next day, Getz was sitting at his
- 16:29Speaker 1: desk feeling completely exhausted, but was pounding yet another cup
- 16:33Speaker 1: of coffee. He'd been up all night interrogating David, who
- 16:37Speaker 1: was still literally sitting right down the hall in the
- 16:39Speaker 1: interrogation room, and also Gets had been going back and
- 16:42Speaker 1: forth with the forensics team and other officers and detectives
- 16:45Speaker 1: who were out in the neighborhood, and he still had
- 16:47Speaker 1: loads more to do before he could finally go to sleep.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Right now, Gets was going over a new batch of
- 16:53Speaker 1: reports from the uniformed officers who had gone door to
- 16:56Speaker 1: door in Catherine and David's apartment building, asking the neighbors
- 16:59Speaker 1: if they'd seen or heard anything unusual, and just like
- 17:02Speaker 1: Gets had hoped, the information they were getting did contradict
- 17:06Speaker 1: pieces of David's story. David claimed that he had left
- 17:09Speaker 1: the apartment at about six forty pm and said that
- 17:12Speaker 1: at that time Catherine was fine, but two neighbors said
- 17:15Speaker 1: they heard screams coming from the apartment before six forty pm.
- 17:21Speaker 2: The man in the.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Unit directly above David and Catherine said he had heard
- 17:24Speaker 1: three screams at six twenty eight pm, and the people
- 17:27Speaker 1: in the unit next door to David and Catherine said
- 17:30Speaker 1: they'd heard screaming, barking, and the sound of furniture moving
- 17:33Speaker 1: around even earlier, between five forty five and six pm. Now,
- 17:37Speaker 1: none of these neighbors had done anything about these noises,
- 17:40Speaker 1: because the noises had stopped pretty quickly. And then there
- 17:43Speaker 1: was Brad Stewart, the neighbor who had said he had found.
- 17:45Speaker 2: The black dog.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Brad told police that when he ran into David in
- 17:49Speaker 1: the hallway it was sometime between six and six thirty,
- 17:52Speaker 1: but David had said that he went back up to
- 17:53Speaker 1: the apartment and found Catherine's body at about seven pm,
- 17:57Speaker 1: a full half hour later. Now, gets new witness were
- 18:00Speaker 1: often bad with time, and in a dense New York
- 18:03Speaker 1: City apartment building, there were lots of noises coming from
- 18:05Speaker 1: lots of units. But still it looked to him like
- 18:08Speaker 1: David's alibi had serious problems. And so the detective sat
- 18:12Speaker 1: back and had some more coffee, and then his phone rang.
- 18:15Speaker 1: He picked it up, and it was the forensics team
- 18:17Speaker 1: with an update about those shoeprints that were on Catherine's
- 18:20Speaker 1: shirt and the bed sheets, and the prints were indeed
- 18:24Speaker 1: left behind by a roughly average sized man. They were
- 18:28Speaker 1: Amen's size ten and a half and this was the
- 18:31Speaker 1: exact size Gets new David wore. Gets thanked them, hung
- 18:36Speaker 1: up the phone, and then rushed back to the interrogation
- 18:38Speaker 1: room to have yet another chat with David Han. This time,
- 18:42Speaker 1: though Gets did not offer David water, He just sat
- 18:45Speaker 1: down and he confronted him with all these new facts.
- 18:48Speaker 1: He told David that the killer shoe prints were exactly
- 18:51Speaker 1: his shoe size, that his neighbors had heard screams before
- 18:54Speaker 1: David had supposedly left the building, and that Brad said
- 18:57Speaker 1: he'd seen David in the hallway at least a half
- 18:59Speaker 1: an hour ear earlier than David had claimed he was there.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Gets leaned in and told David that there were also
- 19:05Speaker 1: security cameras in the apartment building, and his officers were
- 19:08Speaker 1: already in the process of getting access to that footage,
- 19:11Speaker 1: so if David had anything to say, you'd better say
- 19:14Speaker 1: it now. Gets watched as David's expression went from exhausted
- 19:18Speaker 1: to clearly afraid. It seemed like this might be the
- 19:21Speaker 1: first time that David realized the police truly did not
- 19:24Speaker 1: believe his story, and after a second of just stunned silence,
- 19:28Speaker 1: David insisted that he had not killed Catherine, and.
- 19:31Speaker 2: He begged Gets to believe him.
- 19:33Speaker 1: But when Gets just glared back at him completely unmoved,
- 19:37Speaker 1: David launched into a whole news story, one he had
- 19:40Speaker 1: not mentioned at all over the last twenty hours of interrogation.
- 19:45Speaker 1: David said, Catherine knew this guy named Paul Cortes. She
- 19:49Speaker 1: had dated him, but David had always thought he was
- 19:51Speaker 1: kind of a creep, and David said Catherine had told
- 19:54Speaker 1: him that Paul was obsessed with her. So David said
- 19:58Speaker 1: the police really ought to go inva investigate Paul, not him.
- 20:02Speaker 1: To Gets, this seemed like a desperate, last minute attempt
- 20:05Speaker 1: to cast suspicion on somebody else, but he knew he
- 20:08Speaker 1: did have to follow every lead, so he did write
- 20:10Speaker 1: down Paul's name and told David they'd look into it.
- 20:14Speaker 1: When Getz finally left the station for the evening, David
- 20:17Speaker 1: was still in the interrogation room, and reporters from all
- 20:20Speaker 1: the daily papers were beginning to assemble right outside. The
- 20:32Speaker 1: following morning, the story of Catherine's murder and pictures of
- 20:36Speaker 1: her smiling face were all.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Over the news.
- 20:39Speaker 1: The front page of the New York Daily News carried
- 20:41Speaker 1: a headline that made Getz grimace. It read secret life
- 20:45Speaker 1: of slain stripper. Inside the article reported that Catherine's family
- 20:49Speaker 1: hadn't known she was working as a topless dancer until
- 20:53Speaker 1: they literally flew to the city from Ohio to collect
- 20:56Speaker 1: her body. Gets skimmed the article at his desk. He
- 20:59Speaker 1: wasn't convinced that Atherne's line of work had anything to
- 21:01Speaker 1: do with their murderer, but the papers seemed intent on
- 21:04Speaker 1: running with it. An immediate circus was like the last
- 21:07Speaker 1: thing Gets wanted. His team was already under enough pressure
- 21:10Speaker 1: to make an arrest as it was, and it was
- 21:12Speaker 1: going to be even harder to do their jobs now
- 21:14Speaker 1: that a bunch of tips were going to be flooding
- 21:15Speaker 1: in from the public. From all this media, Gets put
- 21:18Speaker 1: down the newspaper, got up from his desk and walked
- 21:21Speaker 1: down the hall to the interrogation room. He'd finished the
- 21:23Speaker 1: day yesterday feeling pretty confident that David was his murderer.
- 21:27Speaker 1: So when he'd sent David home, he had given him
- 21:30Speaker 1: instructions not to leave the city because he intended to
- 21:33Speaker 1: arrest David and soon. But first Gets did need to
- 21:36Speaker 1: follow up on the other leads. He had to hopefully
- 21:39Speaker 1: rule them out, and one of those leads was sitting
- 21:42Speaker 1: in the interrogation room right now waiting for him. It
- 21:45Speaker 1: was Paul Cortes, the man that David had named, who
- 21:47Speaker 1: officers at track Down and brought in the man who
- 21:49Speaker 1: supposedly was obsessed with Catherine. As soon as Gets entered
- 21:53Speaker 1: the room, the first thing he did was look at
- 21:55Speaker 1: Paul's shoes, and he could see that they were a
- 21:57Speaker 1: pretty typical size too at a gland they looked like
- 22:01Speaker 1: they could also be a ten and a half. Gets
- 22:03Speaker 1: also looked for scratches or bruises on Paul's skin, in
- 22:06Speaker 1: particular on his forearms and his hands, and he did
- 22:09Speaker 1: see one. There was a small injury on one of
- 22:11Speaker 1: Paul's fingertips. Gets asked about it and Paul said his
- 22:15Speaker 1: finger had just gotten pinched between a couple of weights
- 22:17Speaker 1: at the gym. Paul was very calm and soft spoken,
- 22:19Speaker 1: and he said he'd heard all about Catherine's death in
- 22:21Speaker 1: the papers.
- 22:22Speaker 2: And he just wanted to help if he could.
- 22:24Speaker 1: When Getz told him that they'd gotten his name from
- 22:26Speaker 1: David Hahn, Paul just kind of rolled his eyes and said,
- 22:29Speaker 1: you know, David had always been jealous of his relationship
- 22:32Speaker 1: with Catherine. Paul explained that he had met Catherine at
- 22:34Speaker 1: the gym about a year ago and they'd been dating
- 22:37Speaker 1: off and on ever since. At the time of Catherine's death,
- 22:40Speaker 1: he said they had been off, but Paul said he
- 22:42Speaker 1: still cared about her and had hoped that maybe one
- 22:44Speaker 1: day they might get back together. Paul told Getz that
- 22:47Speaker 1: he hadn't actually seen Catherine on the day of her death,
- 22:50Speaker 1: but that he had actually spoken to her on the
- 22:52Speaker 1: phone earlier that afternoon, which was not unusual. The two
- 22:55Speaker 1: did speak on the phone from time to time, that's
- 22:57Speaker 1: all it was. Paul said he actually had tried calling
- 22:59Speaker 1: her a second time that day, but she didn't answer,
- 23:02Speaker 1: but Paul said he really didn't think much of it,
- 23:04Speaker 1: and then Paul said that night he wound up going
- 23:06Speaker 1: shopping with some friends and then also to a local
- 23:08Speaker 1: bar to watch the Jets game at about eight thirty.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Gets made a note to follow up on Paul's alibi.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Then he asked Paul if he had any idea who
- 23:17Speaker 1: might have killed Catherine. Paul thought for a moment, and
- 23:19Speaker 1: then his eyes lit up, and he said there had
- 23:22Speaker 1: been some stalker guy named Joe who'd been one of
- 23:24Speaker 1: Catherine's regulars at the strip club, you know, months ago.
- 23:27Speaker 1: He'd somehow gotten Catherine's phone number and had reached out
- 23:30Speaker 1: to her outside of the club, And around that same time,
- 23:33Speaker 1: Catherine had actually gotten roofied during one of her strip
- 23:36Speaker 1: club shifts.
- 23:37Speaker 2: A roofie is called the date rape drug.
- 23:39Speaker 1: It basically makes you incapacitated and effectively unconscious. You don't
- 23:42Speaker 1: remember anything. People will be given a roofie and then
- 23:45Speaker 1: be sexually assaulted.
- 23:46Speaker 2: That's often its use.
- 23:48Speaker 1: And even though he'd never been able to prove this,
- 23:50Speaker 1: Paul always suspected it had been Joe who gave Katherine
- 23:54Speaker 1: that rufie. Catherine had cut off contact with Joe, but
- 23:57Speaker 1: the whole incident had bothered Paul so much that he'd
- 24:00Speaker 1: tried to convince Catherine to just quit the exotic dancing scene,
- 24:03Speaker 1: but she refused.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Paul admitted that he actually.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Went on to call Catherine's father to tell him how
- 24:09Speaker 1: worried he was about her, and Catherine had been so
- 24:12Speaker 1: mad about that that she stopped talking to Paul for weeks,
- 24:15Speaker 1: and so Gets jotted all this down and then asked
- 24:17Speaker 1: Paul if he knew how to get in touch with
- 24:19Speaker 1: this guy, Joe. Paul said he didn't have Joe's number,
- 24:21Speaker 1: but it was definitely in Catherine's phone because the last
- 24:25Speaker 1: time Paul ever spoke on the phone with Catherine, on
- 24:27Speaker 1: the afternoon of her death, she had mentioned something that
- 24:30Speaker 1: really surprised him. She said that after months of silence,
- 24:34Speaker 1: Joe had started calling her again, completely out of the blue.
- 24:37Speaker 1: And at this Gets studied Paul's face, looking for any
- 24:41Speaker 1: hint of deception. This whole Joe's story seemed like it
- 24:44Speaker 1: might just be a way to deflect suspicion from Paul himself.
- 24:47Speaker 1: But it really didn't feel like Paul was lying here,
- 24:50Speaker 1: And besides, Catherine's phone records would be simple enough to verify.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Gets hated to admit it, but maybe the newspapers were right.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Maybe it was time he started looking seriously into some
- 24:59Speaker 1: of Catherine's customers at the strip club. The following afternoon,
- 25:11Speaker 1: on Wednesday, November thirtieth, Detective Getz was feeling really annoyed
- 25:15Speaker 1: as he hung up the phone at his desk. It
- 25:17Speaker 1: had been a call from another reporter, but Gets.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Hadn't made an arrest yet, so he was staying tight lipped.
- 25:23Speaker 1: But for now, he just turned his focus back to
- 25:25Speaker 1: the stack of papers on his desk. They were Catherine's
- 25:28Speaker 1: cell phone records, which he'd subpoenaed yesterday, and they showed
- 25:31Speaker 1: that Paul had been telling the truth. Both he and
- 25:34Speaker 1: Joe had called Catherine shortly before she died, so he'd
- 25:38Speaker 1: brought in Joe for an interview, and he asked him
- 25:40Speaker 1: to explain why, after months of silence, he had called
- 25:43Speaker 1: Catherine right before she turned up dead, and Joe had
- 25:47Speaker 1: replied he'd only called her to check in to say
- 25:49Speaker 1: he hoped she had a nice Thanksgiving. He had claimed
- 25:52Speaker 1: that he was really just trying to be friendly, but
- 25:54Speaker 1: then Getz just asked Joe point blank if he had
- 25:56Speaker 1: ever roofied anyone's drink before, and at this, Joe's eyes
- 25:59Speaker 1: went and he kind of spluttered out that he would
- 26:02Speaker 1: never dream of doing anything like that. But based on
- 26:05Speaker 1: Joe's tone, Gets really felt like he was lying, and
- 26:10Speaker 1: so now Gets felt like the entire investigation was wide open.
- 26:14Speaker 1: A few days ago, he had been absolutely confident that
- 26:17Speaker 1: David was the killer, but men from Catherine's life just
- 26:19Speaker 1: kept coming.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Out of the woodwork. He now had three.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Main suspects instead of just one. In fact, at this point,
- 26:27Speaker 1: his original suspect, David, was actually looking more innocent. Gets
- 26:31Speaker 1: His officers had spoken to David's coworkers at the hotel
- 26:34Speaker 1: where he worked as a doorman, and they confirmed that
- 26:36Speaker 1: he really had stopped and talked to them on the
- 26:38Speaker 1: evening of Catherine's death, just like he had claimed. And
- 26:41Speaker 1: while Getz had hoped that the security camera footage from
- 26:44Speaker 1: the apartment building would prove David was lying about his alibi,
- 26:47Speaker 1: at least in terms of when he was there, it
- 26:49Speaker 1: actually showed David leaving the front entrance of the building
- 26:52Speaker 1: at six thirty eight PM, which lined up with David's
- 26:55Speaker 1: story because he said he left around six point forty. Now,
- 26:59Speaker 1: this did not prove that David was innocent. Based on
- 27:01Speaker 1: what the neighbors had heard, she could have been killed
- 27:03Speaker 1: before six point thirty eight, but there weren't a lot
- 27:06Speaker 1: of cameras in the apartment building and no angle covered
- 27:09Speaker 1: the hallway outside of Apartment two D, so the footage
- 27:12Speaker 1: couldn't prove one way or another, you know, whether Brad
- 27:15Speaker 1: Stewart or anybody else for that matter, had gone into
- 27:17Speaker 1: the apartment while.
- 27:19Speaker 2: David was gone. Just then his phone rang.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Gets reached for it, expecting it to be another reporter,
- 27:25Speaker 1: but this time he was pleasantly surprised. It was a
- 27:28Speaker 1: member of the forensics team, and there was this obvious
- 27:31Speaker 1: excitement in their voice. He told Getz that they'd just
- 27:34Speaker 1: discovered something big, something they completely missed during their first
- 27:38Speaker 1: sweep of Catherine's apartment. The forensics team member explained that
- 27:42Speaker 1: when they'd first entered Catherine's bedroom, they had taken that
- 27:45Speaker 1: mattress that was stuck behind the door and propped it
- 27:47Speaker 1: up against the wall to get it out of the way.
- 27:50Speaker 1: But when they'd done that, the mattress had actually covered
- 27:53Speaker 1: up something that was right there on the wall, all along,
- 27:56Speaker 1: a bloody handprint. It was not until a couple of
- 27:59Speaker 1: days later, after they'd carefully gone over everything else in
- 28:02Speaker 1: the room, that they moved the mattress back down onto
- 28:05Speaker 1: the floor, and that's when they found the handprint. Gets
- 28:08Speaker 1: His face lit up when he heard this news, because
- 28:10Speaker 1: now he knew all he had to do was go
- 28:13Speaker 1: get handprints from all of his suspects, which seemed like
- 28:16Speaker 1: that would be pretty easy to do, but he quickly
- 28:18Speaker 1: realized he had a problem because some of his suspects
- 28:21Speaker 1: had already lawyered up at this point, and they were
- 28:24Speaker 1: refusing to speak with police, let alone hand over their prints,
- 28:27Speaker 1: and Gets really could not force them to give their
- 28:30Speaker 1: prints unless he arrested them, and so that meant Gets
- 28:33Speaker 1: was now in this weird catch twenty two because he
- 28:36Speaker 1: needed the suspects prince in order to make the arrest,
- 28:39Speaker 1: but he also couldn't get their prints unless he arrested them.
- 28:42Speaker 1: So at this point, the investigation kind of stalled out.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Weeks went by, and Detective Gets started to get really
- 28:48Speaker 1: frustrated because there was just nothing he could legally do
- 28:52Speaker 1: to push the case forward. However, the case was still
- 28:55Speaker 1: receiving a ton of coverage in the press, and to
- 28:57Speaker 1: a lot of people it looked like the NYP was
- 29:00Speaker 1: just sort of.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Dropping the ball here.
- 29:02Speaker 1: But then on December sixteenth, so three weeks after Catherine's murder,
- 29:06Speaker 1: the news coverage that had annoyed Gets so much actually
- 29:10Speaker 1: ended up giving.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Him exactly what he needed.
- 29:13Speaker 1: That day, a woman called the NYPD because of something
- 29:16Speaker 1: she had seen on the front page of one of
- 29:19Speaker 1: the newspapers in New York, and what this woman said
- 29:22Speaker 1: led gets directly to Catherine's killer. Based on forensic evidence
- 29:30Speaker 1: and numerous interviews, this is what police believe happened to
- 29:33Speaker 1: Catherine Woods. On the evening of November twenty seventh, two
- 29:37Speaker 1: thousand and five, shortly after six forty pm, the killer
- 29:46Speaker 1: climbed the stairs inside of Catherine's apartment building. They knew
- 29:49Speaker 1: that at that very moment she'd be getting ready for
- 29:52Speaker 1: another shift at Flashdancers, and the fact that she even
- 29:55Speaker 1: worked there secretly really bothered the killer way more than
- 29:59Speaker 1: they would ever let on. The idea of Catherine dancing
- 30:02Speaker 1: and giving her attention to other men made the killer
- 30:04Speaker 1: so jealous they couldn't even stand it.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Now.
- 30:07Speaker 1: The killer had tried to talk with Catherine and win
- 30:10Speaker 1: her over, but she had rejected him. So the time
- 30:14Speaker 1: for talking was over, and so the killer quietly walked
- 30:17Speaker 1: up to the door of Apartment two D and reached
- 30:19Speaker 1: down and turned the handle, which was unlocked. As they
- 30:23Speaker 1: slipped silently into the apartment, the killer brought out the
- 30:26Speaker 1: knife that they had hidden inside of their sweatshirt. But
- 30:28Speaker 1: then something they had not anticipated happened.
- 30:31Speaker 2: There was this.
- 30:32Speaker 1: Dog lying on the apartment floor that got up and
- 30:35Speaker 1: began to bark at them. For a moment, the killer
- 30:38Speaker 1: thought about just abandoning the plan and leaving, but then Catherine,
- 30:41Speaker 1: alerted by the dog, came out of the bedroom and
- 30:44Speaker 1: looked right at the killer and saw the knife in
- 30:47Speaker 1: their hand. Catherine screamed and ran right back into her bedroom,
- 30:51Speaker 1: the very bedroom that she had made explicitly off limits
- 30:54Speaker 1: to the killer, And just thinking about that, the surge
- 30:57Speaker 1: of anger suddenly overtook them, and the killer charged into
- 31:01Speaker 1: the room after her. Catherine was already on the other
- 31:04Speaker 1: side of the bed, lifting up the mattress as a
- 31:06Speaker 1: sort of barricade, but the killer just forced their way
- 31:09Speaker 1: past it and they grabbed Catherine from behind. But Catherine
- 31:12Speaker 1: she fought back. She began thrashing around, doing everything she
- 31:16Speaker 1: could to break free, but she couldn't, and so they
- 31:19Speaker 1: struggled and began smashing into the furniture and knocking things
- 31:22Speaker 1: down all over the room, And it was around this
- 31:25Speaker 1: point that the killer lifted up that knife they had
- 31:27Speaker 1: brought and they slit her neck as deep as they could.
- 31:31Speaker 1: But even then, even with this fatal wound, Catherine kept
- 31:35Speaker 1: on fighting, and she was so vicious that the killer
- 31:38Speaker 1: actually had to brace themselves against a wall just to
- 31:41Speaker 1: keep their balance. And in the chaos, the killer didn't realize,
- 31:45Speaker 1: you know, as they're fighting off Catherine, that they had
- 31:47Speaker 1: placed a bloody hand on the wall, leaving a print behind. Finally,
- 31:52Speaker 1: when Catherine fell to the floor, the killer was still
- 31:55Speaker 1: blinded with their rage, and they just got down there
- 31:58Speaker 1: and began stabbing her over and over again. And then finally,
- 32:02Speaker 1: when Catherine stopped moving, the killer just jumped.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Up and ran out of the apartment.
- 32:08Speaker 1: But when they got into the hallway, they realized that
- 32:10Speaker 1: black dog that had barked at them had gotten out.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Now the killer wanted the dog back in the apartment,
- 32:16Speaker 1: but the dog was clearly on edge, you know, they
- 32:18Speaker 1: were still barking at the killer, and so instead the
- 32:21Speaker 1: killer just shut the apartment door, trapping the dog in
- 32:24Speaker 1: the hallway, and then the killer fled the apartment building
- 32:26Speaker 1: out the back door, where there was no security camera,
- 32:30Speaker 1: and for weeks the killer was not caught until their
- 32:34Speaker 1: violent past came back to bite them several weeks after
- 32:38Speaker 1: Catherine's murder, a young woman who didn't know Catherine was
- 32:41Speaker 1: walking down the streets of New York when she noticed
- 32:44Speaker 1: a newspaper and on the cover of this newspaper was
- 32:47Speaker 1: plastered the face of the killer, who was currently a
- 32:51Speaker 1: suspect in a murder case. And this woman was horrified
- 32:54Speaker 1: because she knew this person. They the killer had sexually
- 32:59Speaker 1: assaulted her at a year earlier, but she had never
- 33:02Speaker 1: filed a police report. But after seeing that this horrible
- 33:06Speaker 1: person was being actively accused of murder, she called the
- 33:10Speaker 1: NYPD and she told them what she knew, and the
- 33:12Speaker 1: NYPD's Special Victims Unit used this woman's accusation as the
- 33:16Speaker 1: basis to arrest the killer, and finally, once they were
- 33:21Speaker 1: under arrest, Getz was able to get their handprint, and
- 33:25Speaker 1: those prints did in fact match the bloody handprint found
- 33:29Speaker 1: on Catherine's wall. They belonged to Catherine's on again, off
- 33:33Speaker 1: again boyfriend, Paul Cortes. David's suspicions of Paul had been
- 33:38Speaker 1: right all along. Paul was a creep who had assaulted
- 33:40Speaker 1: at least one other woman before he killed Catherine. Data
- 33:44Speaker 1: collected from nearby cell towers would prove that Paul was
- 33:47Speaker 1: near Catherine's apartment building immediately before her murder, and he
- 33:52Speaker 1: had been calling her over and over again when she
- 33:55Speaker 1: ignored his calls. Paul waited until he saw David leave
- 33:58Speaker 1: the apartment to go get his car, and then he
- 34:01Speaker 1: hustled upstairs to the apartment, knowing Catherine would be alone.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Even though David was only gone for.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Twenty minutes, that was still long enough for Paul to
- 34:09Speaker 1: get inside the apartment, murder Catherine.
- 34:12Speaker 2: And slip away unnoticed.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Paul was arrested about a month after Catherine's murder on Wednesday,
- 34:18Speaker 1: December twenty third, two thousand and five. He was found
- 34:21Speaker 1: guilty of second degree murder and sentenced to twenty.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Five years to life. Thank you so much for watching.
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