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Gordie Chiesa Hour on NBA Playoffs, Knicks comeback in ECF game 1, WCF game 2 tonight, Athletic's anonymous player poll + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us.
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  Speaker 1: Will ever know. Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Come for the hoops talk. Stay for his list of
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  Speaker 3: the day and list today.
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  Speaker 2: Here's o C with basketball Sabbon Gordy Chiaysa on the
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show, The Mind.
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  Speaker 4: Come on all right, Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome in Gordy Chiasa.
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  Speaker 4: Remember I've got PFL duties this week, So instead of
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  Speaker 4: Tuesday Thursday with Gordy, we did Monday Wednesday with Gordy.
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  Speaker 4: And actually the timing has worked out magically because we
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  Speaker 4: have now two overtime games to discuss in the Western
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  Speaker 4: Conference Finals and the Eastern Conference Finals. So far as
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  Speaker 4: the NBA Playoffs continue, we are your home of the
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  Speaker 4: NBA Playoffs on the radio, ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 4: two NFM.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, Hello, I know you have some thoughts. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I am doing well? My thoughts right now?
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  Speaker 5: Where we've seen, as NBA fans two classic games back
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  Speaker 5: to back in Game ones of each conference finals. There's
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  Speaker 5: nothing like the NBA playoffs. It's outrageous. It's a phenomena.
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  Speaker 5: Happens for players, coaches, referees, organizations either get exposed or
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  Speaker 5: you get exposure, and how do you want to look
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  Speaker 5: at this exposure or exposure? And last night the Cavaliers
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  Speaker 5: got exposed and Nikobocca's got exposure. And then on Monday
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  Speaker 5: night both teams played unbelievable but someone had to win
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  Speaker 5: that game. But last night's more importantly in Massimin Garden
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  Speaker 5: in front of a stellar crowd Shonavin. So I love
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  Speaker 5: to watch the crowd love. I love to watch the
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  Speaker 5: people are on courtside who they are, and it's almost
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  Speaker 5: like Hollywood East.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoyed that version, or that part of the game
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  Speaker 4: as well. I was I was telling the story of
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  Speaker 4: how kind I kind of turned the game on late
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, ah, man, this because we had
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  Speaker 4: been spoiled by the Monday night game being so incredibly competitive,
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  Speaker 4: back and forth, double overtime, and I tuned in and
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, man, Cleveland's up by like
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  Speaker 4: sixteen or whatever, like, oh, this game's not gonna be
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  Speaker 4: as good and then of course New York decided that
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  Speaker 4: they were gonna flip a switch and go at James
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  Speaker 4: Harden and I want to talk about that mega run
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  Speaker 4: that New York went on specifically right because if it
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  Speaker 4: were an easy thing to do, every team that ever
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  Speaker 4: finds themselves in a hole would do it. To me,
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  Speaker 4: to you, what was the catalyst for the beginning of
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  Speaker 4: that run? Was that a conversation on the you know,
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  Speaker 4: during a TV time out, was that Jalen Brunson and
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  Speaker 4: being like, all right times running out, I have to
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  Speaker 4: do this. What sparks something like that for the New
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  Speaker 4: York Knicks last night?
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  Speaker 5: Well, when it's collective, so choes alluding to right now
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  Speaker 5: is with the cast up twenty two points with eight
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  Speaker 5: minutes left in the fourth quarter, and in a big
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  Speaker 5: picture of context, the Knicks run momentum wise, was a
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  Speaker 5: forty four to eleven run from the second half on
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  Speaker 5: into the overtime. What happens is there. What happens is
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  Speaker 5: that as a group collectively, the players rally around defensively
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  Speaker 5: where they dug in and then they score points off
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  Speaker 5: their defense. We got much more aggressive defensively. They were
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  Speaker 5: able to really get steals and momentum rebounds and they're
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  Speaker 5: able to convert on it. Jalen Brunson took over the game.
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  Speaker 5: So as a group they played much better defense with
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  Speaker 5: Brunson with spectacular He scored fifteen points in the fourth
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  Speaker 5: quarter and it's how he got them showing you talk
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  Speaker 5: about guys making bank shots, is that he's driving it
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  Speaker 5: lane and he was absolutely the best bank shoot of
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  Speaker 5: all time is Sam Jones and Bill Walton and Tim Duncan, however,
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  Speaker 5: and his however, Jellen Brunson did it on the run,
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  Speaker 5: incredible circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: He had that unbelievable touch. Jalen Brunson.
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  Speaker 5: I call is a bump of car, bump of car finisher,
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  Speaker 5: just like you, just like in you okay, bump a car.
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  Speaker 5: He people get, He takes hits and he finished with
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  Speaker 5: a soft touch and he was spectacular. There was no
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  Speaker 5: answers for him.
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  Speaker 4: There was one where he puts a move on Harden
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  Speaker 4: and there's nobody in front of him, right and he
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  Speaker 4: puts it up with this strange arc on the ball.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, as it's going off his hand, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: oh man, he missed because it hits the rubber on
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  Speaker 4: the top of the dang backboard. But he's got the
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  Speaker 4: right spin on it, and of course he knows what
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  Speaker 4: he's doing and it goes, he sings it. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's that maybe brought him within six or something. But
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  Speaker 4: I was like, man, that guy, he really has a
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  Speaker 4: mastery of finishing on those.
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  Speaker 5: And what happens sean So Jellen, brunts and tighte people,
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  Speaker 5: they grew up in the schoolyard. In the schoolyard, especially
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  Speaker 5: in the East Coast, the backboards are dead, the metal
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  Speaker 5: backboards are dead, so you're able to really get they
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  Speaker 5: we call that spinning English. You get English. You know
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  Speaker 5: the expression English on the ball like in billiards. Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 5: and that's what brunts and tight people have. But it's
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  Speaker 5: when he did it. He did it against James Harden.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the question philosophically for the Calves, They've got
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  Speaker 5: to pick themselves off the matt where for the first
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  Speaker 5: two and a half quarters they played a great game
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  Speaker 5: and in the last quarter and a half and the
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  Speaker 5: ot they absolutely struggled. And so now during the game,
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  Speaker 5: I was showing at the TV set of wind Up
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  Speaker 5: putting the game back Max shrus because Max Shrews was
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  Speaker 5: on a few guys on the Calves roster that can
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  Speaker 5: can physically match up with Brunson off the dribble called
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  Speaker 5: chest down chests, numbers on numbers. They tried James Harden,
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  Speaker 5: who was absolutely fools. Gold and Sam and Sam Merrill
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  Speaker 5: tried to guard him. He can't do it athletically, and
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  Speaker 5: that's where it so Brunton got it running going by
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  Speaker 5: really changing speeds and be able to get into paint
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  Speaker 5: and make plays the Knickerbocker. If you're a Knick fan,
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  Speaker 5: and many people are in this area with the Knicks franchise,
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  Speaker 5: it was the largest comeback ever in franchise history in
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  Speaker 5: a playoff game. That's how That's how magnitude it was
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  Speaker 5: during the game. However, it's only the first game. Even
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  Speaker 5: though for the Calves it's painful. James Harden's got to
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  Speaker 5: play better offensively. See if you're gonna play Harden in
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  Speaker 5: the game, we know defensively he struggles, but offensively last
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  Speaker 5: night is even more so. Last night's game, Harden had
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  Speaker 5: more turnovers than made baskets. He had six, showing he
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  Speaker 5: had six turnovers and only five made baskets. He goes
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  Speaker 5: five to sixteen, so It's almost like in last night's
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  Speaker 5: game he was unplayable. He couldn't guard anybody, and he
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  Speaker 5: couldn't make a shot.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's a bad scenario, the decision making that you
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  Speaker 4: make to keep him in the game and to have
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  Speaker 4: him guarding Jalen Brunson, especially as that comeback is being
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  Speaker 4: mounted by New York. Look, it's easy to point out
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  Speaker 4: James Harden's defensive liability. It's easy to say, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: what are you doing? Why is he the guy? The
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  Speaker 4: bigger problem for me, if I'm a Cavs fan with
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  Speaker 4: how that happened last night, is that I've left James
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  Speaker 4: Harden on the floor. I know that he is not
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  Speaker 4: going to do anything for me defensively, even though he
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  Speaker 4: should have been better than he was. But what he
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  Speaker 4: is supposed to do, and I think you heard me
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  Speaker 4: talking about this when you were stepping into the studio,
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  Speaker 4: what he's supposed to do is he's at least supposed
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  Speaker 4: to interrupt that momentum by making offensive shots, by getting
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  Speaker 4: the right shot, by facilitating somebody else's shot. If you
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  Speaker 4: can't make your own, he's an offensive dynamo, or he's
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be, so he should be able to match
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson shot for shot, or failing that, at least
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  Speaker 4: hit a three pointer, get to the foul line whatever
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  Speaker 4: to stop that momentum.
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  Speaker 3: Why wasn't he able to do that?
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  Speaker 5: Because the overdribbled. What happened in that run by the Nickobockers.
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  Speaker 5: The CounterPunch was that the Cavaliers, philosophically at those moments
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  Speaker 5: of the game, they all overdribbled in the middle of
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  Speaker 5: the floor versus swing swing swing passes moved the defense
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  Speaker 5: shifted and then come back to the middle of the
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  Speaker 5: floor and then we call it catch and go drive,
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  Speaker 5: and they did the opposite. They dribbled in front of everybody.
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  Speaker 5: The defense was locked in and they couldn't make a
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  Speaker 5: shot because the bull had no energy. Sure, it's so
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  Speaker 5: interesting in any sport when the ball is popping on perimeter,
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  Speaker 5: when you're playing in rhythm offensively, the round ball has energy.
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  Speaker 5: Last night, the energy was by the Nickobackers with Jalen Brunson,
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  Speaker 5: who really didn't overdribble. He was crafty in the lane,
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  Speaker 5: he made place. And the opposite side was the Cavaliers.
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  Speaker 5: They dramatically in that negative run for them as far
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  Speaker 5: as the scoring drought. Basically the whole team ever dribbled.
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  Speaker 5: When did you see this? The calves swing the ball perimeter,
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  Speaker 5: pop it around, they get a good shot at a rhythm.
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  Speaker 5: They hardly did that at all. They did it in
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  Speaker 5: for the first uh two quarters and a half, but
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the game they did not. Let's
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  Speaker 5: add to that, how about the power of shooting. Meeting
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  Speaker 5: off the bench was so critical. Landry Shaman didn't score
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  Speaker 5: a point for the first three quarters and then he
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  Speaker 5: scores nine points in the fourth and the overtime. He
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  Speaker 5: had that friendly rim shown that showing that a jump
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  Speaker 5: shot that went in, that three point shot reminded you
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  Speaker 5: of so much of Kawhi Leonard back in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 5: We made that that hit, the hit, the hit the rim,
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  Speaker 5: bounce out, bounce in, bounce out, bounce in, meaning what
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  Speaker 5: friendly rim of the garden? And he played great Landed
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  Speaker 5: Shamman Brunston again as the catalyst. Besides scoring, he was
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  Speaker 5: really smart as far as what he did when they
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  Speaker 5: were trying to double team him. He kept the dribble
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  Speaker 5: alive without over dribbling. It was really measured of bounces
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  Speaker 5: and he passed the ball to the open guy. And
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  Speaker 5: in that over time and at the end of the
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  Speaker 5: fourth quarter there was those four May threes, two by shammit,
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  Speaker 5: one by og And and Obie, and one by the
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  Speaker 5: keel Bridges. And that was the heartbreaker. The Knicks outscored
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  Speaker 5: the Cavs fourteen to three in the overtime. Donvd Mitchell,
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  Speaker 5: who played spectacular to start the game, he struggled again.
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  Speaker 5: He couldn't finish through contact and the philosophically, he had
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  Speaker 5: the ball too much. He had the ball in his
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  Speaker 5: hands and he was dribbling sidewich versus what trying to
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  Speaker 5: attack mode? When was the last time he saw donvid
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  Speaker 5: Mitchell take a pull up jump shot? It's either what
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  Speaker 5: a three?
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  Speaker 1: Or why? Or to the rim? The mid range game
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  Speaker 1: is so critical. It didn't happen last night.
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  Speaker 4: Why hold on the timeouts? Philosophically, if you're if you're
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  Speaker 4: a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you shouldn't. Last night's game.
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  Speaker 5: The flow of the game, the way the Knicks strike, dribble,
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  Speaker 5: you've got to call timeout. Usually speaking when the team's
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  Speaker 5: on the scoring rampage like that against you, you might
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  Speaker 5: you don't say any timeouts except for one possibly just one,
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  Speaker 5: usually to advance the ball in the last what minute
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  Speaker 5: of a game. That's critical, but at that time, hazy,
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  Speaker 5: we don't want to do You don't want to leave
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  Speaker 5: two timeouts on the table when it's a run like that,
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  Speaker 5: And that's what happened. So it was a critical mistake
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  Speaker 5: by the Calves coaching staff. Usually speaking again the head coach,
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  Speaker 5: your job as an assistant coach during a game is
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  Speaker 5: to be the eyes for the head coach, not his voice.
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  Speaker 5: But within that point right now, the Cavs assistant coaches
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  Speaker 5: should have mentioned often to the head coach, think about
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  Speaker 5: having a time out at that moment, and they probably
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  Speaker 5: did not, and the head coach was so what immersed
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  Speaker 5: in the game of trying to get a desperation basket,
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  Speaker 5: see a desperation basket, that he probably didn't have his
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  Speaker 5: senses about the run because offensively they couldn't score, so
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  Speaker 5: they couldn't stop him. That's one thing, But as a
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  Speaker 5: head coach in the in the NBA, you're thinking about
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  Speaker 5: how can we score versus what how we stopped them,
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  Speaker 5: and that's the job of the coaching staff. They failed
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  Speaker 5: miserably and it affected them as far as the outcome.
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  Speaker 5: Nick Oboker's point of view, you're giddy if you're a
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  Speaker 5: Nick fan. Last night, Sewan, you know in New York
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  Speaker 5: area right now, I'm in New York in New Jersey eight.
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  Speaker 5: So there was a there was almost a Long Island
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  Speaker 5: Railroad strike to Long Alan Railroad connects right to That's
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  Speaker 5: where God underneath it is the tracks. Yes, So those people,
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  Speaker 5: if if three days were suffering, showing all these millions
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  Speaker 5: of people that take the l I R R to
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  Speaker 5: and to uh Penn station, they were miserable. But last
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  Speaker 5: night they went home. What one the strike ended and
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  Speaker 5: two the home team won wild.
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  Speaker 4: I went like that wipes out all the angst, all
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  Speaker 4: the problems, all the trouble for the city for you know,
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  Speaker 4: half a day probably, Sean.
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  Speaker 5: I said to colleague of mine this morning, who went
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  Speaker 5: to the game last night. I said that all the
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  Speaker 5: restaurants and bars around mess and Guard last night made
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  Speaker 5: a hundred thousand dollars in about ten minutes after the game,
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  Speaker 5: of all the fans coming out, We don't want to
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  Speaker 5: go home.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go celebrate, Let's go grab a beer, grab a drink.
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  Speaker 5: Sewan, one hundred thousand dollars in the last ten minutes
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  Speaker 5: after the game timultive Sean playoff basketball.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing like it. Well, I start nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I started today talking about you know, in the regular season,
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  Speaker 4: there was all these conversations about like, hey man, the
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  Speaker 4: NBA's got a problem. This tanking stuff's gotta be fixed.
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  Speaker 4: During the regular season. Oh man, these ratings are not
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  Speaker 4: as strong as we think they should be. The NBA's
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  Speaker 4: got a problem. Oh man, this load management. This is
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  Speaker 4: an issue for the NBA during the regular season. The
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  Speaker 4: NBA's got problems during the playoffs. No, they don't. During
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  Speaker 4: these playoffs. What you've got is incredible basketball by the
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  Speaker 4: best players in the world, and it washes all that
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  Speaker 4: bad taste out of your mouth.
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  Speaker 5: Well said, absolutely, you should work for the NBA. As
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  Speaker 5: far as being the ambassador, you should another job you
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  Speaker 5: have shall you have more judge than anybody I know
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  Speaker 5: and counting. However, we're glad that you hear. If we
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  Speaker 5: speak right now, it's sad to this is that if
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  Speaker 5: you're a Cavalier, fearn is that it's still only one game.
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  Speaker 5: So now the question is the mental focus that if
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  Speaker 5: I was counting the Cavaliers' coaching staff, I would show
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  Speaker 5: just clips of how they were able to jump on
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  Speaker 5: the Nicobaker's for twenty two point point lead, and then
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  Speaker 5: just show one or two negative clips of how they
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  Speaker 5: overdribbled and how they stood around. As far as them
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  Speaker 5: not going to the offensive boards. Remember when you miss
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  Speaker 5: shots all the time, there's chances of rebounds, and minus
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  Speaker 5: Eric Mobley, they didn't do it, so they've got to
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  Speaker 5: reassess that. And after this is that, do you realize
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  Speaker 5: that Sam Merrill, local guy from Bountiful High School Braves
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  Speaker 5: Go Braves, had the open look right now and he's
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  Speaker 5: a knockdown shooter, just didn't amosure.
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing is fractional.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about Nikobaka LoveFest right now, and if Sam
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  Speaker 5: makes that shot, guess why power to the people.
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  Speaker 4: There's all of that. Hey, they almost did it, but
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  Speaker 4: almost doesn't count. My old fifth grade teacher shout out,
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  Speaker 4: mister Bogan shoots anytime you told him I almost finished something.
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  Speaker 4: I almost did what I was supposed to do. He's
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  Speaker 4: a almost only counts at hand grenades and horseshoes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I like that.
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  Speaker 5: And my fifth grade teacher was a nun system McGillicutty
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  Speaker 5: head that was her name system McGillicutty head, and she
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  Speaker 5: took me about world geography and later on shown I'm
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: gonna test you on two countries about a capitol. Ooh,
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  Speaker 5: as we get all less much later on in this show.
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  Speaker 5: I know that shown you're a citizen of the world.
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  Speaker 5: I try to be yes, you are, No, you will.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see how well I do with Gordy's geography test.
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  Speaker 4: We got a lot left to get to. Hot lunch
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  Speaker 4: is coming next. I'm gonna ask Gordy to think about
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  Speaker 4: this while we're in the break. One of the most
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  Speaker 4: fascinating things that I've seen from the very start of
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: these Eastern and Western Conference Finals is the games that
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: shipped the conversation last night. After that game, Mike Brown,
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  Speaker 4: every Knicks player that was asked said, Yeah, we were
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  Speaker 4: deliberately going at James Harden. Yes, we were exposing James Harden. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: it was no secret that we were attacking James Harden.
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  Speaker 4: He's a veteran, he's a multiple time All NBA players,
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  Speaker 4: a multiple time All Star. How do you coach James
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  Speaker 4: Harden after he sees the performance like we saw, and
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  Speaker 4: after he hears his opposition say we know you're the weakness.
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  Speaker 4: Gordy's gonna tell us next. It's the Sean O'Connell Show
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show, ESPN seven hundred
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  Speaker 4: ninety two NFM. Gordy chiasa hanging out with us, brought
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  Speaker 4: your Utah V Lux dealer, Gordy, I asked you how
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  Speaker 4: you coach up James Harden, who look, he's he's been there,
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  Speaker 4: he done, he's seen it all. It's not like he's
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  Speaker 4: some young cat that you got to hold his hand
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: and walk him through anything in these NBA playoffs.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: But he's a guy who's looking at the.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Numbers, knows that Jalen Brunson going against him was successful
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: last night, a lot less successful when he was going
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: against anyone else. He knows that he and Donovan Mitchell
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: missed nine to the last ten attempts down the stretch
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: and didn't help Cleveland win that game, and of course
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: New York ultimately completed the comeback and did win. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: then he heard the opposing team and the opposing head coach,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: when asked by the media, say yeah, we were going
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: at James Harden on purpose. How do you help him
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: get that out of his mind? First thing is pear pressure.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: There's not more of the coaching staff. It's the internal group.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Is that his teammates and floormates. I'm sure during the
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: film session and even when they're on the bus, they're
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: talking about that we have to all dig in, including you, James,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: that we've got to be able to play more as
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: a collective group.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So you should win.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: A star player that's a veteran, and it's not the
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: coaching staff that talks to the player, talks to him
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: about a certain deficiency. It's the peer pressure within and
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: that's being a good teammate because actually the stakes are
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: paramount and they're high, and so with their CABS point
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: of view, it would be Donovan Mitchell that's talking to him.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Also right now, it should be Max Shruce, who's also
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: a veteran, should be talking to him, and Denis Shrewder
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: see Shrewder should be talking to him also. And speaking
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: of Dennis Shrewder, is that he he's a good guy
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: that possibly could have guarded.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson left.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I mentioned mentioned earlier by Max Shru's physicality,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: but Shreuter is also a quickness. So we'll see how
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: it all plays out. But Harden's got to be himself
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: have been more prideful. It comes out to really, why
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: just pride yourself?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Defense? Defense?
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Besides, the technique is absolutely concentration, effort and pride.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about we we we discussed it
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: a little bit, but let's talk about we get a
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: game two tonight San Antonio Oka. See Victor wen Benyama.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: You can't say that he arrived because we already knew
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: what he was, right. But it's a different thing in
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Western Conference Finals playoff basketball, going up against the MVP,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: who took the award that you wanted and made it
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: public that you wanted all season long, and then you
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: proved your point with one of the great performances we
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: have seen, an all time classic and hopefully foreshadowing on
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: what this series is going to be for the next
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: five or six or maybe a full seven game series.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I just wanted your thoughts on the Spurs, the double
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: overtime victory and of course Webbenyama's Monster Knight.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Yes first year Wembyamba is that we've never seen a
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: guy ever like this player ever. He can bind so
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: many different skills. He has the footwork of a team
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Alaja one. He's got the passing skills and the awareness
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: of like a Magic Johnson Larry Bird type. He's got
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: the shot plot, the ability of Bill Russell and Wilt
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: and the most important thing about him add to the
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: skill is that he's joyful. They sounds so trivial, going,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: what are you talking about joyful? He's joyful, which means
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: that if your star player is joyful, or the person
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: in your office who runs the whole joint is joyful,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: most times the workplace is joyful.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And that's that's his team.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: They play with a sense of joy because their star
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: player has a personality where he gets everybody involved as
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: far as as far as his performance and he praises people.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I call it airborne magic. Once Victor Wenbiama goes airborne,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: there's nobody on this planet can stop him airborne and
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: it's magical. And that he scores, he combines both to
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the points. He combines velocity points and also finesse points.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: That's hard to do.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Well his length.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Obviously, his incredible quickness is footwork when he's in traffic,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: when he's in the lane. It's incredibly impressive the fact
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: that he can do all of that. But then he
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: can also pull up from ten feet beyond the three
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: point arc and sink a shot that his team needs
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to tie it or whatever. That's something that big men
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: don't do or something that we have never seen someone
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: his size be able to do something like that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: That's correct. That was Steph Curry at seven foot three
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and a half. That was Steph. We all seen Steph.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: We all love Steph coming down and twenty eight foot
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: just pull up and he did with the magnitude of
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: when he did it. He showed unbelievable courage and that
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: there was no doubt and he's mine yose right now.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: He took the shot, he stayed in the shooting motion.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: He shot it and stayed in the motion, which tells
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: everybody that this shot is going in versus why drifting
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: fold or soil wards?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Not sure right now?
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: So that's how important it was Now from the Thunder
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: point of view, by the way the defending champions is
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: that they they woke up in the fourth quarter, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: that sha Jos Alexander who play who came alive in
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter and the overtime. Let's not forget is
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that he's still scored twenty four points and have twelve
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: assists right now, and that the Spurs did a great
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: job we call in basketball technically the good. They did
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: a good job on Shae as far as corralling him,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: as far as the health defense. Most times he was
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: trying to go against two or three people with rem
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Beyamberg being in the lane as the last detriment as
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: far as trying to stop him, and they were successful. Now,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the flip side right now for them tonight would be
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: is that is again, pop the ball around perimeter. Get
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: the ball more to Shae in space versus what everybody's
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: staring at him as far as defensively where they're trying
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: to stop him. Next part of that, the Thunder big
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: guys have to play better and be more engaged. Jet
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Hungrim struggled the whole game eight points, two for seven.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: It was no factor. And Isaiah Hartenstein, who's physical only
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: played fourteen minutes. Caruso, we love him, Hey, we love
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: you dog, and he played tremendous offensively and he bout
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: when Beyonber. But there's nobody, there's no way Caruso, who
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: we all love, can god win Beyonber once he goes airborne.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: So they've got to make that adjustment where they're going
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: to play big on big versus Crusoe's tenacity on when Beyondber,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: it's not gonna work, and that they'll make that adjustment
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: during the game. And Jets Jet's gotta get involved more
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: himself right now. All right, Jazz basketball, we're here in
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Salt Lake City. We're picking number two. We're picking number
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: two in the draft, meaning the Jazz And last year
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: it was Dylan Harper, and Dylan Harper had a first
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: playoff special moment where he goes twenty four points, eleven
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: rebounds and are you kidding me? Seven steals, you know, Sean,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: And most most times in America, stealing is illegal, but
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: in the NBA it's encouraged. It isn't great, but in
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the it's right. In the NBA, thievery is encouraged. And
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: that was Dylan Harper last partment Monday Night and the
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Jazz picking number two. They're hoping to get someone like
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: that talent. And you know something, Jazz fans, you're going
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: to whoever the Jazz pick at two, They're gonna get
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: a multi talented player that will do eventually do some
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: serious damage as the Jazz go forward in playoff history.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: They will.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I don't want to belabor the hate on James Harden
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: too much, but we're talking about drafting it too. You
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: definitely want someone who can score the ball. You probably
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: want someone maybe who's a ball dominant guard. Wink wink,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: nudge nudge, Jazz. But that guy. You can't pick someone
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: who is a defensive liability in today's NBA right.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: No, you cannot know what happens though. You lean towards
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: offense in the draft, and then you've got to get
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: the coaching staff as a group keep developing that player's
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: defensive effort and tenacity and technique. Now, James Harden, unfortunately
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: from his team MUDs point of view, wants to only
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: score the ball. After all these years, this is James
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Harden in the NBA right now, This is this is
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: James Harden. A seventeenth season in the NBA. He should
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: know better, but he has that. I call it Abneesha
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: something from Abnezia. Now here's the thunder the win tonight's
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: game showing I gave I gave some a quick things.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: His entetis when they double team Shay, that the shooters
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: have to be ready to shoot the ball and be
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: able to score through physicality. Besides Shaye, the other guys
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: have to do, meaning chet Hongrim. They've got to keep
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: big on big defensively as much as possible. They got
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: to generate more steals. Is that the way the way
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: to play playoff basketball. You got to steal the ball
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: when they go zone to the spurs or a masquerade zone.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: All right, remember.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: That when beyond the plays of one man's zone, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: thought zone is illegal in the NBA. Sewan, and you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Sewan my memory bank right now someday showing if I
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: come back on Earth as a different person, I want
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: to be vlotty devac.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You want to be reincardinated.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right, Sean. You heard it right now,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: that's right?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Why right?
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Because I blotty devac led the NBA in the mode
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: ever non call playing one on one zone in the lane.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair in the lane, body divac.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: He put one foot in the lane and then take
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: one out and the referee let him do that. And
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: that's when Beyond But also so you got to move around.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: You gotta geen Beyonder involved in a pick and roll
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: as far as even in drop coverage, which means then Sean,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: you're taking some three point shots, but also taking what
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: mid range pull up jump shots. As far as that
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: pick and roll you come off it on a dance dribble,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: you're taking that midi shot and a less one right
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: now is that you've got to rebound as a group.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: So when Beyondber gets twenty four rebounds during the game,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: and that's commendable. But from the Thunder point of view,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: you gotta gang rebound. You gotta get in there and bite, fight,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: claw to get rebounds. So that should be the game
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: plan as far as the Thunder to try to recapture
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: some mojo, they can do it. They defending champion, They
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: have a great lesstuff. Again, they lost some double over time.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about what to back from that game
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a little bit more. Uh, A former beloved jazz man
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: has called the quits in the NBA.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: We're gonna get to that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Gordy still got a list During the break, I'm gonna
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: look up where Vladie Devac is now because I haven't
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: seen him lately.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know what he's up to.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Sean O'Connell Show, with plenty left to get to It's
• 29:18
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• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'll give it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You were listening to The Sean O'Connell Show from the
• 29:34
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• 29:38
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• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Our two begins, like our one, ended with Gordy Chaza
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: here in our studio with us lucky to have him
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: picking his brain on.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: All things NBA.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: UH.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Game two tonight six thirty thunder Spurs Western Conference Finals.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: And as much as we were gushing about Victor Winbinama's
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: performance and how incredible and dominant he was, he had
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: to be that good and Chenn Holmgren had to have
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: a bad game and shake Gildess. Alexander had to have
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: a pretty average game in order for the Spurs to
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: get a double overtime win.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: What does the bounce back look like for Oklahoma City that.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: She went tonight, That they know that they're really an
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: elite team and that they've got to just play better
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: as far as schematically, so they'll make some adjustments as
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: far as getting Wemby and Stephan Castle is a very
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: good player also for the Spurs, they're going to do
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: a better job of trying to contain him, and because
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: he was in a lane also making passes, and so
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: it's more schematically that they're going to just adjust somewhat.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: And that's the NBA playoffs is adjustments each game. However,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: you want to keep the corporate principles of what got
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: you there to the big dance, and so that's that
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: fine line where you don't change everything, but a few
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: different alternatives you add a wrinkle to get through the game.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: And that's what they'll do right now. And if you're
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: the Spurs, you just got to keep playing as hard
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: as you can. You've got to move the ball on perimeter,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: and you've got to get yourself defensively ready to set
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: to try to contain give a penetration of all the
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: thunder player. It should be a great game show Manstin's
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: telling me that the series going to go deep. I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: saying seven games. Seven games.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: If there are anything like Game one was, that will
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: be a treat.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: I was asked this question by a colleaguesman in the
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: NBA about Wembyamber. Did I ever see or coach in
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: the game where it was like that? And they say,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: very simply, Michael Jordan's forty five point game in Game
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: six to beat the Jazz for the championship in nineteen
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: ninety eight, that was very similar to that. He was
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: a Jordan was incredible during the game. He made every
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: big shot. He willed his team to win that game.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: He did it both on offense and defense. And he
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: was a once in a lifetime performance. And that was
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: when beyondber So Victor And by the way, his the
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: math showing Victor wen Beyondba is only twenty two years young.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: So in Jazz basketball, they've got to get someone, whether
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: it's Walker Kessler or someone else's future future casts out
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: to be able to try to again to try to
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: slow down win Beyonder because that's they're in the same
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: conference right now, and in jazz basketball, they're in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: same division. As the thunder. So they've you know, it
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: was this past year in Jazz basketball, the Jazz were
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: one to fifteen in division games, and so it's who
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: you play against. And so in jazz basketball, they've got
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: to get Walker Kesler to keep wanting to be sign
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: him and then get him to keep improving. And then
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: also whever the back was going to be with the
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: use of Nurcuric or whoever it's going to be eventually
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: if it's Jaron Jackson, is that they've got to get
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: everybody ready to play against the other teams quote really
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: elite big guys in the Western Conference. There's too in
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: particular right now being Hungering and the Victor wenb beyond.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: But also you know, Sean the Spurs backup center is
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: very good. Louke Cornette very good. So Connett also adds
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: the group to it. So Victor gets in foul trouble, well,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: golf ever gets hurt during your game, Cornette is very
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: capable of backup and Connette going to the Spurs instead
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: of standing with the Celtics hurt. The Celtics run as
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: far as them going deep in the playoffs. Besides Tatum
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: getting hurt.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Gordy the Athletic put out an anonymous play the results
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: of an anonymous player's poll. They Sam a Mcjosh Robbins,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Joe Varden, their writers NBA writers contacted players anonymously, ask
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: them questions and they tallied the results on the votes
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: that they were able to collect about one hundred and
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: fifty ish votes on each of these, sometimes a little more,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: sometimes a little less. The first question they asked was
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: where's Yannis, or at least the first question. The answer
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: they published what team will Yannis be on to begin
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: next season? Forty five percent of the respondent said, it'll
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: be Milwaukee, then Miami, then New York, then the LA Lakers.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: We'll stay with the top three, Milwaukee, Miami, New York.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Which one gets your vote?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Miami?
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: So they got to move Wiggins meeting Andrew Wiggins as
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: part of that deal, and how am I to get
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: also a third team involved as far as a freeway trade?
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: But I would say MIMMI be the most likely. He's
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: definitely not going back to Milwaukee. Your new coach, Taylor Jenkins,
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: you want to have even though again Yanis is an
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: unbelievable talent, very much. And in twenty twenty one the
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Bucks were World championship. They won it great, that's commendable.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: That was five years ago. The last five years, it's
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: been no joy being in that building in Milwaukee. It's
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: some of it's self inflicted. Probably some of it's what
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: being envious for different teammates. Probably they made coaching changes
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and now they're another coaching another coaching change with Teler Jenkins.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: They're gonna move on from him.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Players were asked which arena has the most passionate fans.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: The TD Garden number one, Madison Square Garden number two,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: pay Comm Center for the Thunder number three. The Utah
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Jazz got one point nine percent of the votes, so
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: a step up from just the like also receiving votes category.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: And of course that's heavily reflective of the fact that,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: you know, jazz fans haven't had a lot to be
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: passionate about lately.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: But Boston, New York, Oklahoma.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: City, Okay, that's East Coast bias. That's the first thing
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: by the players they're quating. Also, they liked Visito cities
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: for the nightlife.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: This one I like better.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: See that's part of it now, sure so NBA players think.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Which arena has the most obnoxious fans. Okay, TD Garden
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: also number one in that poll, so they're the most
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: passionate according to the NBA players, but also the most obnoxious.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Then the seventy six ers, then Madison Square Garden Jazz fans,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you're number four. Number eight point two percent of the
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: vote on most obnoxious fan base goes to the Jazz fans,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: So you're getting in the head of the opposing team.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Well, he's Philadelphia. Remember showing they used to boo Santa Claus.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: They threw like batter reasons.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Santa Claus for the listeners right now. During the
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Eagles playoff games, the opposition they were booing Santa Claus
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: because he was messing with the He's messing with the
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Eagles fans, so they boot him. Now showing us Anteonis.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: If the Jazz fans innumber for that's because the Jazz
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: historically play hard and physical and the opposition didn't like that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: So if the ex Allen Iverson and Westbrook and those
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: other people. A lot of times, Luca Dantage, they're always complaining, Oh,
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: by the way, we don't like Salt Lake City because
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: we don't get no calls there because historically the Jazz
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: play physical and hard and they don't like that.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's a little badge of honor if the
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: opposing players think that you're obnoxious as a fan base,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: because it means you're getting in their head.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Jehan.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Also, today and yesteryear, the Sacramento Kings Arco Arena was
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: absolutely happening. Yeah again, people forget back in the early
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: two thousands is that the Kings had it rolling. They
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: were and that place was Hoppin and Sewan the cow Bell.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: The cowbell made loud Plade Divac would be out out
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: front smoking cigarettes at halftime, just giving the place its
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: own ambiance. Speaking of Sacramento, they made the top three
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: on this next poll question what's the first team on
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: your no trade list?
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: I saw this thing. The results on this one was
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: leaked a few days back. The Memphis Grizzlies are apparently
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the most or the least desirable NBA team for players.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: That's the team that thirty six percent of player said,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I don't that's a no trade I'm not going to
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: the Memphis Grizzlies. Washington Wizards was number two, Sacramento Kings
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: was number three of the teams that players would not
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: want to be traded to. Then it was New Orleans, Brooklyn,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: and the Utah Jazz got five percent of the responses
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: saying I don't want to be traded to Utah. This though,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: it's funny because you don't want to be the sixth
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: most or the seventh most or sixth least desirable location.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: But given the conversation that's surrounded Utah for so long, oh,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: that's nobody wants to be there. Only five percent of
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: players even mentioned I would not want to be traded
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: to the Utah Jazz.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: So that's weirdly encouraging.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very much. Add to that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Historically, once the players come to Utah, they love. It
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: is a misconception about Utah for all the wrong reasons,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: and it's delusionary because Utah is a great place to live,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: especially if your family orientated. And I always say this
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: to people, specially back East. If back East is a
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: twenty five nightclubs in a midtown Manhattan and in Atlanta,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: here in Utah is five nightclubs, and so that's fine,
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: and that's good, and that the social life is really
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: good for the young players, especially the young unmarried players
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: and it's a great place to play. And now Ryan Smith,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: the owner, he wants to win, and they have everything
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: in place in jazz basketball with the facility as far
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: as the ownership level, they do want to win and
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: that it's gonna be a great place for it. Again,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I know I'm somewhat bias because I live here, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: I'm a former East coastenter and I've seen it devolution
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: of it's shown.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Well, you can't ignore what this team is doing, and
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: whether you're biased for or against the Utah Jazz, you
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: have to look at it and say, man, this ownership
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: group is putting a very significant effort in We talked
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: about the facility being built down there now, the Inner
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Mountain Healthcare medical facility that's going to be attached to
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: the Jazz practice in Utah Mammoth Practice Facility, and players
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: were asked what's the smartest What did the smartest team
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: spend money on besides player contracts? Eighty six percent said
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: that accessory staff, support, staff, facilities, etc. They put it
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: in a player company, it's sort of category, And eighty
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: six percent of the respondent said that's the most important
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: thing you can spend your money on. That's exactly what
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Smith Entertainment Group is spending their money on right now.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: James did a great job pointing this out when we
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: were doing the show prep like you have a perfect example.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: You hear the Mammoth players talk about it, you hear
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: the Jazz players talk about it, and you can drive
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: down I fifteen, you can get off on one hundred
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: and sixth exit and you can see the actual building
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: being put up. This is where a lot of that
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: money is going to provide facilities that are going to
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: be not just comparable to the elite, they are going
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: to be the example. They're going to be the elite
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: facilities in the league for the Utah Jazz.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Correct, And that's why they're very happy. They'll be competing
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: for getting a free agents and also they're going to
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: be signed their own players. So things are in place
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: for the Jazz to make a quantum jump as far
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: as into standing and that's absolutely important. Dent to that
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: is that you want to feel comfortable in your work environment. Sure,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: and that's it, and that's if once you feel uncomfortable,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: the chances of you succeeding are dramatically higher.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: This was interesting too. There's some collective quotes.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Again, it's an anonymous poll, so you don't know which
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: player said this, But there's several different quotes about how
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: important the support staff is.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I didn't know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't have any idea whether the you know, the
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: players on an NBA team, the players on a Utah
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Jazz team care who their equipment guy is, care who
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: their messuse is, care who. But several quotes saying the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: quality of the support staff and keeping people around who
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: have been there.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: That's what good teams do.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And we just saw the opposite of this, by the way,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: in Portland with their cheap owner. He laid off seventy
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: people or something like that, and the Portland Trailblazers organization
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: just cleaned house trying to cut costs. That's not going
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: to that's not gonna vibe well with his team with
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: the players on his team very much.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: And from jazz point of view, good for the Jazz, yeah,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: because then suddenly that the people don't want to go
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: there because of the perception of what's going on. It's
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: important the physical therapists, who the team doctors are, who
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: the trainers are, who the supports them, who's.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: In charge of an.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Outreach as far as community outreach, who takes me go
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: to to speak at the schools sean. These are all
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: things that behind the scenes. There's many jobs in the
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: in the NBA and from a team standpoint that people
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: don't really think about that's really impactful. And the players
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: are involved in every facet of it. Because remember is
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: that most of the players, besides playing, they're part of
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: the community. And the better teams have the players interact
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: with the fans, if not a daily basis, most often,
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: and that's why there's a SEAN. There's an unbelievable connectivity
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: between the organization and the players with the most important
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: people of the fans. Remember, without the fans, there's no team.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Will Hardy specifically voted ninth most impressive coach in the league.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: He got three percent of the votes. Joe Missoula was
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: number one.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, will Hardy was also voted the ninth least
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: impressive coach in the league, so he had the same
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: ranking in the most impressive poll and the least impressive poll.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I think, and we've said this in a lot of
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: different ways a lot of different times on the show,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I think the verdict in a lot of ways is
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: still out on Will Hardy. We're going to find out
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: a lot more about him next season when they're trying
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: to win, when the governor chip has taken off. When
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: he's not the rains aren't constantly being pulled back. Who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I think we find out a lot about Will Hardy,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and by extension, so will these other players in the
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: rest of the league and today.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: So from coaching standpoint, a coach means that you're in
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: charge of the whole team, but it's definitely being a teacher.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: So see, a teacher of basketball is when you can
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: teach skills at an elite level to make it simplify
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: for the players where they can combine their natural talent
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: and the skills they've acquired in the team setting. And
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: that's coaching. So coaching is also part of it is
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: teaching and also showing. Part of it is what delegating
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: that the best coaches are superior teachers and they delegate
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: people around them have their expertise of what they can
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: do to enhance the players their performance, and it's it's
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: interwoven and interconnected and that's what makes it good. Now,
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: my last point about that is, soone said to me
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: right now, who's the best coach in the NBA.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I would say it's it's Eric Bostram.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, I said, I would say there was on the
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: least impressive coach. This is kind of just a mean
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: but hilarious point. Number one on least impressive was Brian
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Keith for the Wizards. And one player again Anonymous said
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: I'm voting for whoever coaches the Wizards, like he didn't
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: even know who the Wizards coach was that particular player.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, So again mean, so I have to know a
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: sub text of that. How well were the players? Where
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: the players above thirty years old and veterans or with
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: the young fellas that it's all about me across section?
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, show, yeah, all right, Gordy, what's your list today?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Shum oh wait, I don't mean to interrupt. I want
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: to make sure we give our shout out to Joe Ingles.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Yes, Joe Ingles quickly, Joe Ingles returning back to Australia,
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: his native country. He played in the NBA for twelve
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: years in the NBA, being undrafted. He just signed a
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: new contract with the Melbourne United of the Australian League.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Remember every Jazz fan really truly loves Joe Ingles. He
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: played there for eight years. He left the Jazz as
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: the all time leading three point made triples in jazz history.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: And that it's an amazing accomplishment that Joe did one
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: thousand and one eighty nine made triples. He shot from
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: three point range in jazz basketball for the eight years
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: forty point eight percent from threes. And most of all
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: is that he was really a tremendous team leader. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Sean very similar to you. He's lefty and that just
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: like Sean lives in the right handed world, so does
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Joe Inglis. Yes, all right, so and also after that,
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Joe helped the Australian national team when their win their
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: first ever medal Olympic basketball back in twenty twenty one
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: in Tokyo. He led the Australian Boomers to a bronze
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: medal in the Olympics by his performance. Also him also
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: a guy named a guy named Patty Mills. So there
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: were spectacular right now, all right, Sean, So Joe goes
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: back to Australia. I want to test your knowledge about geography.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, all right, Sean. What's the capital of Australia Canberra?
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right, And that's what Joe ingles. That's his
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: hometown where he played. All right, Sean, let's stay in
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: that part of the of the world. What's the capital
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: of New Zealand.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I want to say Auckland, but I think it's Wellington.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: That is correct, Yes, Sean, you're fifth grade geography?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Well, here's your teacher he or she taught you well.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I actually I never.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think I ever did well in the spelling Bee,
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: but I did. We had a Geography Bee as well.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I did better in the Geography be than I did
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: in the spelling Bee.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: And one more about what's the capital of Salt Lake City?
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Where do you love that? What's the capital of Salt
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Lake City?
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: We are the capital. Salt Lake City is the capital.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: No, it's Big Willie Sports baring Grille. Oh okay, perfect,
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Yes it is, Sean, I like that.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yes it is.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: And speaking of Big Willies barring grill Air to that
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: is my list today is the Hall of Fame, Hall
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: of Fame or future Hall of Fame players who never
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: won an MVP Award in the NBA to either in
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame or future Hall of Fame, and
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: it's an amazing list, so shaped it back to back
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: years Vicky and Byama could be getting it very shortly.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Also to his guys that in the Hall of Fame
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: or willby in the Hall of Fame, were never named
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: MVP George Gerving, Jason Kidd, Dame Lillard, Rick, Barry Wolf, Frasier,
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: Chris Paul Clyde, Drexler, Paul Pierce, Kawhi, Leonard, Dominic Wilkins,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Gary Payton, Kevin McHale, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton, Scottie Pippen,
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: Isaiah tomm John Hablchek, Dwyane Wade, Elgin Baylor, and last.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: But not least, Jerry West. Wow. These guys would never.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: Local you've never won an MVP never Wow and Jazz
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: basketball quickly. Cal Malone won it twice MVP back in
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven and nineteen ninety nine, So it's hard
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: This will be a question for Gordian for James, whoever
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: can answer first how many NBA MVPs are not in
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: the Hall.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Of Fame so far?
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Just won Derreck Rose, Ding, Ding, Ding Ding, everyone else
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: has been inducted into the Hall of Fame after winning
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: NBA MVP, and who.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Knows, maybe Rose gets in. I'm not sure he will.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: And the reason why because he got hurt during his
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: career and didn't play as many games because of the injuries,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: and he did it. So he did it when he's
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: really young, and so the last say five or six
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: seven years when he did play, he was hampered by
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: the injury on his lower leg. Right now, but he's
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: really a Hall of Fame talent.
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: Of course, there's plenty active who are not in the
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: Hall of Fame yet, but those guys will be like
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: those a Ji Jokic.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Will Joellen be be in the Hall of Fame? Yes
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: he will, he will, Yes, he will. Yeah, even missing
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: fifty of the games in his career, I know.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Andbi that's a question mark, but yeah, he might.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: I'll put in context if Amar stottam, it's a Hall
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: of Fame and Camello Anthony not Joel embiide.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: You put in contalists two last parody Olympics. It's a
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: basketball Hall of Fame.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, so again, it's an interesting question. But Sean,
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: more importantly, I'm impressed by your geography. Remember Sean is
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: a citizen of the world, and James and I were
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: citizens of Tuila.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I've never been to either Canberra or Wellington, but I
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: have been to Australia and to New Zealand. I'm gonna
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: have to make a visit to all those capital cities. Gordy,
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: You're the absolute man. Thanks for coming in and enlightening
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: us with all your basketball knowledge.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Once again, thanks Sean, peace out.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the game tonight, Gordy.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Game two of the Western Conference Finals Spurs Oklahoma City