Latest / Financial Survival Network / Bitcoin, Gold Rise as Dollar Falters - Craig Hemke #6273
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So for sure, and they got to have inflation, they
- 0:02Speaker 1: got to have more money to constantly be servicing all
- 0:06Speaker 1: of the build up of the debt. You know. And Carrie,
- 0:09Speaker 1: it's like this. You know, we all look at it
- 0:11Speaker 1: and say, hey, look at that gold is thirty four
- 0:13Speaker 1: hundred dollars per ounce. That's one way to look at it.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it as gold versus a dollar.
- 0:20Speaker 1: But look at the dollar versus gold. The dollar is
- 0:23Speaker 1: depreciating versus gold. You know, gold's appreciating versus a dollar,
- 0:28Speaker 1: that's what we keep saying. But it's a dollar that's
- 0:31Speaker 1: depreciating against gold. You know, you fifty years ago it
- 0:36Speaker 1: only took thirty five dollars to buy an ounce of gold.
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- 1:06Speaker 2: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
- 1:10Speaker 2: Survival Network. I'm your host, Aery lutz Well Craig kim
- 1:13Speaker 2: Key is with us Tfmetalsreport dot com. Make sure you
- 1:16Speaker 2: go there sign up, sign up for the for the
- 1:20Speaker 2: daily missive. And it's opportune that we're speaking with you now, Craig,
- 1:26Speaker 2: in light of what has happened in Gold the past
- 1:29Speaker 2: two days.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that, Carrie, it was you know, everybody is.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I think we all suffer from PTSD a little bit
- 1:37Speaker 1: in our sector, Carrie. You know, yes, we just expect
- 1:42Speaker 1: the rug to get pulled at any time.
- 1:44Speaker 2: We expect, you.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Know, some mass liquidation of futures contracts at three o'clock
- 1:49Speaker 1: in the morning, you know, that kind of stuff. And
- 1:52Speaker 1: there's you know, that's probably always going to be with us.
- 1:55Speaker 1: But after you know, Gold ran up whatever it was
- 1:59Speaker 1: two weeks weks ago, one hundred dollars a day, two
- 2:02Speaker 1: days in a row, got to thirty five ten intra
- 2:05Speaker 1: day on the futures contract and okay, yeah, you know,
- 2:09Speaker 1: at that point probably needed a little pullback. It had
- 2:12Speaker 1: gone up, had four one hundred dollars gains in the
- 2:16Speaker 1: course of about eleven days. So okay, so it's going
- 2:19Speaker 1: to pull back. But my goodness, Carrie, here came everybody
- 2:23Speaker 1: out of the woodwork. Oh yeah, it's a crowded trade.
- 2:27Speaker 1: As if you know, everybody suddenly owned gold or something.
- 2:30Speaker 1: You know, it's overbought. Okay, maybe the RSI got up
- 2:34Speaker 1: into the seventies, but I mean it wasn't like I mean,
- 2:39Speaker 1: the people that were calling for golden now go to
- 2:41Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred and stuff and all the way back
- 2:43Speaker 1: to the two hundred day moving average. I'm like, well maybe,
- 2:47Speaker 1: but in terms of the internal components of what has
- 2:51Speaker 1: always driven the futures market, like the commitment of traders reports,
- 2:54Speaker 1: it was the farthest thing from being overbought.
- 2:58Speaker 2: So I was like, well, you know, I'm.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Not necessarily buying this narrative. And now look what's happened
- 3:03Speaker 1: as we record this on Tuesday. We're up almost one
- 3:07Speaker 1: hundred dollars a Monday, and at one point today we're
- 3:09Speaker 1: up about.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Eighty or ninety. That's shocking.
- 3:12Speaker 1: The reports of the great death of the gold rally,
- 3:17Speaker 1: I guess we could say are greatly exaggerated. And we'll
- 3:20Speaker 1: see where we go from here.
- 3:22Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt that's true. And now even silver
- 3:26Speaker 2: is starting to join the party here, huh.
- 3:29Speaker 1: It started, it's you know, it just dries. Everybody crazy.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Drives me crazy too. I mentioned the commitment of trader
- 3:37Speaker 1: structure for gold and being actually pretty tame and I
- 3:41Speaker 1: don't want to say bullish, but the amount of excuse me,
- 3:45Speaker 1: the large speculators or the hedge funds have actually been
- 3:49Speaker 1: trimming their long position over the last two and a
- 3:52Speaker 1: half months. In fact, it's the smallest has been since
- 3:55Speaker 1: when this rally took off at the end of February
- 3:58Speaker 1: last year. On the other hand, they'll carry different story.
- 4:04Speaker 1: It's kind of in its mid range as you could
- 4:06Speaker 1: actually even say it's a slightly heavy or bearish commitment
- 4:10Speaker 1: of trader structure. So it just as hard as having
- 4:12Speaker 1: a hell of a time getting any momentum, you know,
- 4:16Speaker 1: getting anything going to the upside. And that's what it's
- 4:19Speaker 1: going to take for silver to catch up. You know
- 4:20Speaker 1: what kind of you recall times in the past when
- 4:23Speaker 1: silver is taken off, it kind of builds a momentum
- 4:26Speaker 1: of its own, It goes up because it's going up
- 4:29Speaker 1: sort of thing. But until it actually gets going, it
- 4:34Speaker 1: tends to just kind of languish, and that's kind of
- 4:38Speaker 1: what it's doing now. And I know it's frustrating to
- 4:40Speaker 1: a lot of folks.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Yeah, that is for sure. I mean I know myself,
- 4:45Speaker 2: I have felt that way myself. But you know what,
- 4:51Speaker 2: I think we've been vindicated very well at this point.
- 4:54Speaker 2: We waited around a lot of years. We were telling
- 4:56Speaker 2: people and they're saying, oh, your stop clocks, you know, yeah,
- 5:01Speaker 2: twice a day, you don't know, shift, And all of
- 5:05Speaker 2: a sudden, we're looking a lot smarter these days.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Craig, Well, you know, Carrie, we've known each other for
- 5:13Speaker 1: over a decade, you know, and I think back to
- 5:16Speaker 1: how many times, you know, when gold was twelve hundred
- 5:19Speaker 1: dollars an ounce, you know, in fifteen, you know, or sixteen,
- 5:22Speaker 1: And I've got people on my site they're like, you know,
- 5:26Speaker 1: thank you for keeping the faith, because I would very
- 5:28Speaker 1: easily have given up, you know. And if I've accomplished anything,
- 5:32Speaker 1: maybe it's that. But it's not that I'm you know,
- 5:35Speaker 1: a savant or anything. The math has just always been
- 5:38Speaker 1: the math, Kerrie, and at this point more people are
- 5:42Speaker 1: figuring that out. You know, as we've discussed, we've always
- 5:45Speaker 1: called it the end of the Great Canes of experiment.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Remember that this debt based monetary system, you got to
- 5:52Speaker 1: keep feeding the beast, we have more and more of
- 5:55Speaker 1: our cash.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why you know banks love the inflation,
- 6:02Speaker 2: right well, sure, yeah, exactly.
- 6:05Speaker 1: They're the ones that create the cash at that retail
- 6:07Speaker 1: level and then they loan it out. So for sure
- 6:10Speaker 1: they and they got to have inflation. They got to
- 6:12Speaker 1: have more money to constantly be servicing all of the
- 6:16Speaker 1: build up of the debt, you know. And Carrie, I
- 6:19Speaker 1: mean it's like this. You know, we all look at
- 6:20Speaker 1: it and say, look at that gold is thirty four
- 6:23Speaker 1: hundred dollars per ounce. That's one way to look at it.
- 6:26Speaker 1: You I mean, you look at it as gold versus
- 6:29Speaker 1: a dollar. But look at the dollar versus gold. The
- 6:32Speaker 1: dollar is depreciating versus gold. You know, gold's appreciating versus
- 6:37Speaker 1: a dollar, that's what we keep saying. But it's a
- 6:40Speaker 1: dollar that's depreciating against gold. You know, you fifty years
- 6:44Speaker 1: ago it only took thirty five dollars to buy an
- 6:48Speaker 1: ounce of gold, and now here we are, fifty years later,
- 6:51Speaker 1: it takes thirty five hundred. And that's the I mean,
- 6:55Speaker 1: it is that endless march toward I can't really say workless,
- 7:02Speaker 1: but march toward this kind of infinitely small value.
- 7:07Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I guess I'm certainly for the right word. But it's
- 7:10Speaker 1: that endless devaluation that we're seeing in that price of gold.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, so true, A man's so true. So the
- 7:19Speaker 2: devaluation continues. You think doge can make any difference in
- 7:23Speaker 2: the long run or what?
- 7:24Speaker 1: No? I mean, I've felt this way since November and December.
- 7:30Speaker 1: You know, at one point, Carrie, you'll remember, back during
- 7:33Speaker 1: the campaign, they're going to save two trillion dollars by
- 7:37Speaker 1: cutting waste and all that kind of stuff. And then
- 7:39Speaker 1: about the time Trump got elected, it was oh, maybe
- 7:42Speaker 1: one trillion that they could save, and then Musk came
- 7:46Speaker 1: out about a month ago, six weeks ago and said, no,
- 7:48Speaker 1: maybe one hundred and fifty billion. Yeah, and now maybe
- 7:53Speaker 1: it's fifty billion. And look at the fight that they're
- 7:57Speaker 1: getting just for that. I mean, that's always been the problem.
- 8:00Speaker 1: I mean, it's not the ability to there's no line
- 8:03Speaker 1: item veto, right. The ability to just summarily cut programs
- 8:08Speaker 1: is you know, sounds good, but it's not a wol right.
- 8:13Speaker 1: So I my concern is that we were already running
- 8:18Speaker 1: a two trillion dollar deficit this year in what is
- 8:23Speaker 1: deemed to be a growing economy. So where does that
- 8:28Speaker 1: go from here, Carrie? If you know, maybe if those starts,
- 8:32Speaker 1: if it really did have an impact, that would just
- 8:35Speaker 1: cut the size of government's betting, which would help, which
- 8:37Speaker 1: would shrink the economy even more, which would then shrink
- 8:41Speaker 1: tax receipts even more. And the deficit remains the same,
- 8:45Speaker 1: if not worse. So that's all part of this thing.
- 8:48Speaker 1: I mean, that's the math. Is the math, and that
- 8:52Speaker 1: depreciation of the dollars what just continues. And the interesting
- 8:56Speaker 1: thing now is the rest of the world seemingly catching on,
- 9:00Speaker 1: not just the global central banks, but investors around the
- 9:02Speaker 1: world are starting to figure this out. And we may
- 9:05Speaker 1: still be in the early stages of this rally.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's as interesting to how high I kind of
- 9:11Speaker 2: go this year.
- 9:13Speaker 1: You know, here's one for you, Carrie, rather than me
- 9:16Speaker 1: answering that myself, I saw. I know you're already sitting down.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Just yesterday, Goldman's Sacks came out and said, if you know,
- 9:27Speaker 1: in kind of a worst case scenario is how they
- 9:31Speaker 1: you know, put it, it's actually best case for us
- 9:34Speaker 1: gold could go to forty five hundred this year.
- 9:38Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking forty three hundred is my guest year.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Yeah, their base case was like thirty seven hundred, which
- 9:45Speaker 1: is another ten percent. They're kind of if we do
- 9:49Speaker 1: get into recession, it's more like thirty nine hundred, they said,
- 9:52Speaker 1: forty five. Carrie. Here's the thing, I mean, just kind
- 9:57Speaker 1: of connect some dots for the people that are trust
- 10:00Speaker 1: by the mining sector. And look, I'm one of them, right,
- 10:04Speaker 1: and we all look at this just what we've always
- 10:10Speaker 1: the point of being in the mining sectors being first
- 10:14Speaker 1: right before the world gets turned onto it, you know,
- 10:17Speaker 1: before the flow of fund starts coming into the sector
- 10:20Speaker 1: and everybody starts bidding the shares higher and higher. It's like,
- 10:23Speaker 1: remember when the market was crashing a month ago, and
- 10:25Speaker 1: it's like the mag seven lost one point one trillion
- 10:29Speaker 1: dollars of market cap today, remember things like that. Yes, well,
- 10:34Speaker 1: the entire market cap of the GDX ETF is only
- 10:37Speaker 1: like sixteen billion. So you just think if some of
- 10:42Speaker 1: that money starts flowing in, how that's going to change things?
- 10:45Speaker 2: All right?
- 10:46Speaker 1: Well, the key is to get regular investors and hedge
- 10:50Speaker 1: funds and institutions to start putting some money in things
- 10:53Speaker 1: like Neumont and Agniquo, Eagle and in the sector in general.
- 10:57Speaker 1: All right, so how does that start. Well, the advisor,
- 11:01Speaker 1: the or the seller or the bank prop desk guy,
- 11:06Speaker 1: they're always going to look at what their bank has.
- 11:08Speaker 1: They're going to pull up their analyst opinion in the
- 11:11Speaker 1: mining sector and say, well, this guy's projecting X for
- 11:14Speaker 1: earnings this year and that kind of stuff. Well, where
- 11:17Speaker 1: do they come up with that? Well, they're going to
- 11:18Speaker 1: take their own banks numbers for where the gold price
- 11:22Speaker 1: is going. And when the bank is saying, ah, the
- 11:24Speaker 1: gold price is going to fall this year, they're going
- 11:27Speaker 1: to factor that into their earnings per share forecast for
- 11:30Speaker 1: all these mining companies. Right. Well, when Goldman now is
- 11:35Speaker 1: saying thirty nine hundred, or UBS is saying thirty seven hundred,
- 11:39Speaker 1: you know, Morgan Stanley is saying thirty five hundred. All
- 11:42Speaker 1: these different banks they're analysts now within you know they're
- 11:47Speaker 1: covering all these stocks are going to start to put
- 11:50Speaker 1: that price into their earnings per share projections, right And
- 11:54Speaker 1: that how I mean, it's a small step in the process,
- 11:59Speaker 1: but that's how we get more and more of the
- 12:02Speaker 1: regular investors to actually start buying these things because of again,
- 12:06Speaker 1: positive analyst coverage. Well maybe I to buy some of
- 12:08Speaker 1: that that sort of thing, but plays a role.
- 12:11Speaker 2: So it's the rocket fuel, huh.
- 12:13Speaker 1: It helps, it helps, And again, Carrie, I just I'm
- 12:17Speaker 1: just amazed by this every time I again think about it,
- 12:19Speaker 1: and I mentioned earlier. I mean, there's so much money
- 12:22Speaker 1: and things like Apple and Nvidia and you know their
- 12:25Speaker 1: market caps a trillion dollars or two trillion dollars, you know,
- 12:30Speaker 1: the entire You could take a little tell how many
- 12:34Speaker 1: shares of Nvidia and then buy the entire GDX, you know,
- 12:40Speaker 1: for sixteen billion. I mean, what is that ten A
- 12:45Speaker 1: couple tenths of a basis point.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Nothing, It's a rounding error, right, amazing, amazing, man, that
- 12:53Speaker 2: we're that we're here, that we've gotten to this point,
- 12:56Speaker 2: and you know what's coming next. Stay any particular ruminations
- 13:02Speaker 2: on bitcoin, Well, it's.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Been interesting how it's at least come back. It started
- 13:06Speaker 1: to break down about a month ago, you know, and
- 13:09Speaker 1: it has had a tendency to kind of follow the
- 13:11Speaker 1: NASDAC and to follow the stock market. When the stock
- 13:14Speaker 1: market was tanking, bitcoin got down and lost what looked
- 13:17Speaker 1: like to be some important support, got down into the
- 13:21Speaker 1: low seventy thousands, or whatever. But as the stock market
- 13:25Speaker 1: has come back, it's come soaring back too. And I
- 13:28Speaker 1: don't even know what's the last ninety thousand something ninety five.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I look at City four last night. I haven't checked yet.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Today, still off its all time high. But so anyway,
- 13:40Speaker 1: doing what it wants to do, I mean, and what
- 13:42Speaker 1: it should do. I mean, it too is an alternative
- 13:44Speaker 1: to dollar based assets. And that's kind of what we're seeing.
- 13:49Speaker 1: That's that's kind of what the underlying trend is here globally,
- 13:54Speaker 1: is this movement out of dollar based assets, whether it's
- 13:58Speaker 1: US stocks, US bonds, or the dollar itself, and that
- 14:04Speaker 1: flow of funds is going to the dollar alternatives, be
- 14:08Speaker 1: it gold or bitcoin, or commodities or or just other
- 14:13Speaker 1: foreign currents of gosh, kerry, have you seen the crazy
- 14:16Speaker 1: action the Taiwanese dollar as of late, which had been
- 14:20Speaker 1: you know, peg to the dollar, but it's beally for
- 14:22Speaker 1: soaring in strength versus the dollar. As again, these funds
- 14:27Speaker 1: are being repatriated out of the US because of I
- 14:31Speaker 1: guess political uncertain you know, whatever you want to call it,
- 14:36Speaker 1: political economic uncertainty. After the Trump caraff announcements a month ago.
- 14:41Speaker 2: M yeah, all right, man, Well, this is a fascinating
- 14:45Speaker 2: turn of events here. I guess we're not really surprised.
- 14:48Speaker 2: We're just surprised that it took as long as it did.
- 14:51Speaker 2: In any event, to a tfmetals report dot com. Go there,
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- 15:05Speaker 2: You could be part of a community and figure out
- 15:08Speaker 2: attempt to figure out what the heck is really going
- 15:10Speaker 2: on here.
- 15:11Speaker 1: That's what we do every day, Carrie, kind of a
- 15:13Speaker 1: summer every morning, which I just got done writing a
- 15:15Speaker 1: little bit ago, and then we wrap it up with
- 15:17Speaker 1: a podcast in the afternoon for like you said, fifty
- 15:20Speaker 1: cents a day. Try to keep everybody on top of things,
- 15:22Speaker 1: that's for sure, and gosh, at a time like this,
- 15:27Speaker 1: that couldn't be more important. Just everybody, remember, I mean,
- 15:30Speaker 1: ball markets in just about anything, but particularly the precious
- 15:34Speaker 1: metals unfold in a pattern of kind of two steps
- 15:37Speaker 1: forward to one step back, higher highs followed by higher lows.
- 15:41Speaker 1: And you don't want to get shaken off trying to
- 15:45Speaker 1: call tops. Just like you know, anytime you're in a
- 15:47Speaker 1: bear market, you don't want to kill yourself trying to
- 15:49Speaker 1: pick bottoms either. And the best thing people can do
- 15:53Speaker 1: is try to stay on top of things, keep in
- 15:55Speaker 1: mind the underlying trend and why it's happening. And then yeah,
- 15:58Speaker 1: anytime you get a dip where you can, you know,
- 16:00Speaker 1: add to your stack, probably going to work out pretty
- 16:03Speaker 1: well for you.
- 16:03Speaker 2: In the end. By the dip BTFD right right, zach,
- 16:10Speaker 2: bt BFTD, whatever.
- 16:15Speaker 1: You would say, it's so long, Terre, it's like it
- 16:18Speaker 1: all runs together.
- 16:19Speaker 2: If you're dyslexic, you're right they Otherwise, if you're not dyslexic,
- 16:24Speaker 2: BTFD and it. Hey, that's it for today, and make
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