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The Turmoil of Leadership Changes at LSU · JustIN Time

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One welcome into another edition of the Justin Tom Podcast,
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Justin, and you're with me like always, my guest Will.
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Brother, how you doing doing? Pretty good, pretty good.
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I'm excited now for football season.
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And you see, I got my alternative background.
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The green, the beautiful purple. Screen I'm excited about where
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this theme is can go. Yes.
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I don't think we're going anywhere, but after October 26th
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the outlook of this season got a lot better.
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We could go from a six win season to possibly A87 or eight
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win season. It depends.
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You know what different to make when you have alignment.
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You know has been a story about LSU the last couple week and a
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half. You know this has been a when
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you say a train wreck, laughing stock, fill in the blank.
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That's what it's been the last 10 days or so.
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Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, thin one all happens from
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the top of the state actually. That later.
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Go over with this. Top this time 1.
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So as everybody knows, LSU got thoroughly embarrassed on
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October 25th. October 26th Brian Kelly gets a
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pink slipper, his birthday present.
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Surprise. Surprise.
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Well, as you're fired, get out. The Joe Sloan gets fired the
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next day. I don't know why that dude
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wasn't cleaning out his office as soon as Brian Kelly got
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fired. You've been calling.
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You've been calling that for a month and 1/2.
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He should have known he was going to be the next one to go.
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He was probably supposed to be the first one to go.
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Here's where it gets ugly, folks.
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On October 29th, the great Governor Dipshit of Louisiana
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slams watered, sticking his nose in in places it shouldn't
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belong. It doesn't belong.
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And he keeps insisting that the taxpayers are going to pay for
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Brian Kelly's buyout. And he's insisting because he
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hasn't read Skip Bertman's book. When the taxpayers fit the bill
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for the renovations, this stadium and everything that goes
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on with the athletic department. Moron.
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You're right. The taxpayers do, but only a
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select group because we pay for season tickets and we pay the
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season tickets and then we pay the donation fund or whatever
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that you want to call it. That's right.
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Anyway, that moron on October 29th slams Woodard.
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I'm pretty sure October fired. I mean, October 30th, Woodard
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gets fired. No surprise there.
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The governor is a moron. He keeps insisting on stuff, but
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he's technically right. OK, he's technically right.
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Taxpayers will fit some sort of bill for Brian I out.
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And that's just because the prices of boxed condos are about
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to go up again. I mean, you go to Cannes, your
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boxed combo's about to go up because we got to pay for that
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buyout somehow. Hey, Candy Acts.
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Whatever you call it, brother. Yeah, so then we this week and
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yesterday, what is that dude's last name?
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Wade Rouse. Wade Rouse.
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Wade, Rouse, Ruth, whatever you want to call him, he's the new
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president of LSU. I probably should learn how to
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say his name. Not going to lie, though, when I
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saw his last name and how it was spelled, I only read it with 1S
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and I really thought he owned Rouses because it would make
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sense. Because Governor Landry would
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do. LSU promotes Verge as the next
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AGI. Kind of like it, I'm not going
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to lie. Yeah, we, I definitely like to
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hire like we talked about, you know, just like I was saying
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before, you know, we've been the talk of the, the nation and for
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the wrong reason the last week and a half.
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And you know, we always talk about, you know, just any aspect
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of life, talk about foundation, how it's important, especially
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like with companies and organizations, we it has to
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start at the top. I remember us going back last
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this past summer. You know, we spent all summer
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weeks reviewing us Skip Berman's book, Well, the book about Skip
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Berman. You know, how he beat LSU, like
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how he make strategic decisions, calculated moves to get to get
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the basement program to where it is today.
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And even the athletic program is old.
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Like when you have you have a strong leader and you have to
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have the key of components around him, above him that's all
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aligned. He did not have that really.
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And it was really exposed in a terrible way because you have
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people who technically shouldn't be super involved in this stuff,
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regardless of their title. They want to have.
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They want to stick their nose in there like you said.
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Yeah, and he is at least if you're going to stick your nose
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in it, do a little bit of research.
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That's right. Actually, when you you put on
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the committee coming out and saying I don't know what that
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man is talking about. The taxpayers have never and
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will never put the bill for LSU coach.
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You know, and I mean, I thought it was AI, but apparently they
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came out and they had that press conference for Scott getting
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fired and they asked Kim Mulkey's assistant why she
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wasn't there. And he says she's heartbroken.
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But I kind of verge of been there.
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I mean, I like it. I don't like how it happened.
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But I mean, at least he's there and he's was on that Bertman
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team that Scott was on and is like he said we were texting
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when we were texting when it first happened.
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People forget how bad Joe Lieber was.
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Man, because like, you know, I you know, I was telling you one
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of my Co workers, we talked about this quite a bit.
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You know, we talked about, you know, just I brought up a lever
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this, you know, it's it's amazing how people forget, they
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forget to remember where they once were.
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So it just I remember because during our Doliba was in in
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office when we were during our college years and it was just,
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it was that was just not good. So.
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Or I will say this, OK, people credit Scott Woodard for the
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2019 national championship in football.
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He was the sitting AD for that year, but that wasn't his coach.
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We didn't win anything else, but Joe Oliva hired Edo and got us
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that great season in 2019. Yeah, it's just.
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I was Scott Woodard. You know, like.
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First year as AD. Yeah, just like and just really
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to piggyback off, you know, just like you said what you were
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saying, like you just based on what how how things happen with
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the governor, not surprised how he's gone.
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I just, I thought it was just too hasty of a move.
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It was like petty by leadership, but I mean like, you know, when
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you have some and you shouldn't flex your I understand you want
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to operate your power. I don't mind people having
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power. Don't abuse it.
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So just you just be and like if you, like you said, if you're
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going to be more, if you're going to use your leverage, at
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least be more tactful, meet more calculated behind the scenes,
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not in The Dirty way, not in The Dirty way, but just understand
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you have this platform, you're responsible for so much.
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And we are, we are a global renowned university.
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We have historically known and successful programs.
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They're very popular, even more so in the last few years with
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the championships. So will you have this extra
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attention? You have to be very calculated
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on how you respond to things, how you make decisions, because
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it affects everything under you and it shifts the dynamics about
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you, the perception around you. Yeah, like, you mean you've got
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to be, you got to look at this Jeff Landry and think this is a
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really bad look. Feel like he's running off the
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thing of ever since he cried and fell with that live tiger on the
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field last year at the PAMMA game working on what is it?
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There's no such thing as bad publicity.
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Yes there is. You say some right things, you
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know, paying these coaches and Scott being involved in the two
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highest files in college football history.
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But you can't keep running your mouth by something you have no
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business in and say we're going to give these coaches an
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incentive based contract. No high end College Football
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Playoff coach or high end coach that can that they're going to
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throw millions of dollars out at another school is going to come
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to hell issue with an incentive based contract solely on how
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their team performs because they're getting paid millions of
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dollars at other schools. That's it.
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I mean, you got to be smarter, you know?
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Yeah, you see, like you know how the candidate dropped off
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because when all with all the upheaval, you know, at the with
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the with the the organization, with the school.
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So like and that's why I noted in the notes, you know, just
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because their lack of the full time AD, you know, they got
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pushed back from Canada just like Dan Landing, like they put
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you bowed out of it and as if he was even in it to begin with.
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But this is what happens. We don't have alignment at the
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top because my job itself is already difficult.
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Yes, I have this money, yes, I have resources, but other teams,
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other programs are historically successful in football as well
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or this whatever sport that you coach.
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So I need the backing of my bosses and you can leave the
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rest up to me. But when you when you don't have
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that, that's why I was so big when when the president, you
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know, dropped the inner attack for Virge Osbury.
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So OK, so we got the president now we got the we got the AD.
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Now we go from there. Now we get the coach all
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aligned. Oh yeah, I was just pulling up
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the this. WBRZ posted an e-mail from Brian
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Kelly to Scott Woodard on Sunday, October 26th at 5:45 PM.
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Scotting team Sending a quick note to confirm the following my
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to confirm that following my termination during our meeting
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today, I will return all the LSU materials in my possession is
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required by my contract. Let me know if it's better for
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me to clean up my office or if you would prefer to pack
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everything up and send it to me. I assume HR will touch base to
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base regarding any other housekeeping matters out there,
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but let me know if you you need anything else from me in the
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meantime. As we discussed in our meeting,
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I am open to your desire to reach a settlement of what's
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owed to me under the contract, although it would have to make
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sense financially. Despite your decision to let me
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go today, I am grateful to have the had the opportunity to lead
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this program over the last four years and wish you the all the
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best going forward. Best Brian feel like in that you
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added and run your program into the ground.
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I mean there's nobody on planet earth if you would unexpectedly
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fired who can get a moving crew and move your stuff.
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Where are you moving your stuff? Brian?
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Where you going? DK you just got fired.
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How is movers already moving you out?
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I don't understand it. Like I said, a lot.
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You're right. We've been on that Matthew show
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with Governor Landry. We've been, I haven't been
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keeping up with the coaches. Search, it's a lot, a lot of
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them, yeah, we can definitely get.
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To that, all I know is that Shaq, I guess he was trolling
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people that I heard that Nick Saban was in Baton Rouge, heard
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it through the Grapevine and Saban was in Baton Rouge, you
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know, and then Osbury said during the interview with
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Miskona, David and I talk every two to three weeks and he is not
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coming back to LSU. He's not coaching, you know, but
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he did say if he decides he wanted to coach, he would be the
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first one to go pick him up and bring him here.
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All right, I see that you put we've got our main targets for
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coaching. I mean, I don't see it making
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like Wayne Kiffin to come. I don't see it making sense for
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him to leave Ole Miss. Why is it up?
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Ole Miss has never won a championship.
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They claim, for God's sakes, they claim the SEC title that
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they didn't even appear in back when Eli was the quarterback.
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You go nine and three, you get A10 win season over there
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consistently. They'll bid you a statue.
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He keeps over there and he keeps winning.
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He keeps having ten win seasons and he keeps beating the shit
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out of Mississippi State every year.
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They will build that man a statue and name the field after
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him like he's Nick Saban. Vault, Hemingway, Kiffin
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Stadium. I can see him now.
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Name it after him. I mean, why would you leave
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that? Plus, you've got somebody like
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Edo, who's the scope of higher underneath you to tell you grow
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a pair and come to LSU and fight for a championship.
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They'll give you the money and the resources you need.
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We just got to get you over there and get it done.
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So it's they, they claimed 3 natties but like one of them
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were like I know the 195919601962, the 59 title was
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retroactively retroactively claimed.
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So offhand, I don't know who won that one because I know we won
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at 58. Yeah, Auburn.
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So yeah. I don't like how schools can
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claim these national championships.
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That's the big one, the biggest problem I've had for college
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sports for many years. Yeah, that's why, like in the
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playoff system now, I wish they would go more, but you know, But
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you know, drink a witch. Honestly, I'm not sold on him.
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Like I put like I'm putting those in there too.
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Like what he's done in Missouri, don't get me wrong, But I mean,
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there's context to it. I mean, you got the Baker
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connection and I think whoever you are coming in to coach, you
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need to keep him. And it's so defensive staff.
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I saw something. Let me pull this text up.
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I saw it because I think it was a text this week about Brian
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Kelly and hit the way he ran his team.
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He was on Instagram, can't find it.
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But somebody said, you know, with, you know, Brian Kelly.
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Oh, OK, here it is. It's it's a tweet.
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I was looking for something like that.
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Per LSU interim Frank Wilson, Blake Baker is asking for a more
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realistic look and practices in game like game like situations
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during practice since says that this will happen and Tuesday
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will be a physical practice, both giving both sides of the
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ball a true look at the inside the run.
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OK so you telling me in the tweet said.
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So you're telling me Ryan Kelly had our boys playing Patty cake
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and two hand touch football at practice during game week?
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I think. He wanted I want, I think he
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wanted to be fired. I think he wanted to be late,
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though. But you know, I, I don't know if
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Drinkowitz can come in. We get we it's a like Jacob has
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to said, you don't come to LSU for a job.
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You come to LSU because you love LSU.
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You have to bring that passion. You know that fire, I believe it
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was a it was a video for sure from the show.
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Jacob has to said, if you can't tell the God, bring in five guys
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and you can't tell which one has passion for this job, which one
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has passion to win, let him in. The thing, he'll do it for free.
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He won't even charge you a consultant.
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He'll do it for free and you'll come out with the best
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championship coach and the winning coach, you know.
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That's been like I'm like this when you talk about the passion,
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you know, that's been a big theme this whole season,
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especially, you know, this am I I never was a person that really
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gets like too deep and like is he ALSU guy?
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Is he from here? I like I can careless where
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you're from. No, because we had Nick Saban
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not from here or skip Berber's not from here, not granted, Let
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me be fair. Those are historic outliers, all
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time outliers. But but I think just yeah, go
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ahead. Jay Johnson's not from here.
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All he's done is delve. He I said it last podcast guy
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like Jay Johnson comes in, He delves deep into the culture of
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Louisiana. The man loves Louisiana.
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He loves the letters he plays, he coaches for and he gets the
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buy in from those players just from his passion.
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We need a guy from with passion. Every time I look at Drinkowicz
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I don't see passion and I don't know if that's just the a
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northern guy coaching at a university where he doesn't have
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100% buy in that they can win a championship with or what is
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going on. But he pulls in massive talent
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in Missouri every year. But the last time Missouri was
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relevant in this conference was when they first got here and
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they went back-to-back to back SEC championship games and won
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the East. Weren't they under Odom back
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then? So I wonder under what?
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Weren't they under Odom back when they did that?
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Think. Think.
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So let me see. Yeah.
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Barry Odom. Yeah.
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Barry Odom coach 16 to 21. Well, 16 to 19, yeah.
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And then? Yeah, I.
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Don't or and like, well, you said you said like like three
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straight like conference title game appearances.
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I don't know if it was three straight, but it was definitely
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two straight. It was back.
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It was, it might, it might have been.
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I've been Gary Pinkel because I mean back so because.
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It was back when I first came into the conference.
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Yeah, because like when Gary. Yeah.
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Gary Pinkel started coaching Missouri in 2001 and then mid
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2000s. That's when they start to pick
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it up. And then like in 2000, because
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so Mizzou joined the confidence in 2012, 2013, yeah, 2013 they
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went 12 and two. In 2014 they went 11 and three.
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They won the Cotton Bowl and 13. They won the Central Bowls of
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Central Bowl at 14. Yeah, I don't like Dan Mullen on
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this list. I think he's the Jimbo Fisher of
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Florida. He did make Mississippi State a
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real competitor, but when he got to Florida, he just proved that
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he, I don't know what happened in Florida.
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I don't know if he just got too big or if it was karma because
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he what he did in Mississippi State, you know, or is Florida
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just doing job to begin with? Yeah, I feel like they said like
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he was just distracted. I guess you just say, I mean,
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because I mean, he was, he was turning out some real solid
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teams. I mean, it looks like it looks
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bad looking back on it because of what what's happened with
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Napier. But I know like this because I'm
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looking up UNLV stats. You know, offense, you know,
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they points per game, they averaged 37 points a game.
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That's 12th in the nation. They're top 25 in yards per
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game, points per play, number 9. And I get different conferences
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and whatnot, but obviously if you look at their defensive
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stats, they're, I mean, they're like in the bottom of the
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country, but. Think LSU.
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I guess we can get into this after let's just we'll get into
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this after. Let's finish with the coaching
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stuff and then we'll talk about that because it's got to do with
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playoff bowl. What do you think about John
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Sumrall? Obviously, you know, it's a
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young guy, well younger guy. So I think obviously he has some
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years on him to coach. I was like what he's done at
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Tulane, you know, really just unbelievably respectable program
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considering their their tier of competition.
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You know, you have a stain winner obviously in state.
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So I know that's going to something like that.
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Like him. He will win the the the
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introductory press conference. He will win the fan base, at
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least initially. Yeah, so I'll.
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Look up his coaching record. OK is coaching record as of
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early November 2025. He is 38 and 11 in the two teams
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he's poked and he led Troy to two Sunbelt Conference
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championships in 22 and 23. He according to this, he was 23
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and 4 at Troy the two seasons he was there, 22 and 23.
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He was 23 and 4 at Troy means he had to beat some SEC caliber
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opponents. I was just going to bring up
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because like saying no toy's been been, you know, a obsessed
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player, you know, you know, Goliaths and like the last
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number number of years as well. You know, going back to this
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year, earlier this year with Clemson.
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I know that they've fallen off, but you know, they they had
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Clemson on the ropes at Troy, you know, but this but that's
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like the foundation with when you have like good coaching and
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you know, they make do, you know, like he helped lay the
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foundation moving forward for the next guy.
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But then you look at what he did at Troy, look at what he did
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with the Tulane recently, like so I feel like he would win.
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I don't know. I wasn't even my first choice,
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but I get like, I get the, you know, support behind his name.
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Yeah, let you know you can win at Troy, then you can pretty
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much win anyway. I don't know too much against
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about any. What is it, Dillingham?
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Dillingham yeah, you know, obviously they made it to the
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playoffs. Arizona State made it to the
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playoffs last year, almost pulled off upset against Texas.
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But so obviously he's built something very steady day
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because the Arizona State was, you know, they were in they were
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a mess for a little bit. So and you know, I put a note
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and I was going to say like, you know, you know, because you
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know, Jay Johnson came from Arizona.
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Not to say they didn't go have apples to apples, of course, but
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I think that's interesting. Yeah, I can see it.
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I can see it. Whatever we get is going to have
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to have passion. I mean, Frank Wilson's on this
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list. He has passion, but I don't know
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if he wants the head coaching job.
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I mean, some, some some guys don't want it.
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I mean, like I said, that's that'll be up to him.
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I know like you have a chance as the interim tag the last month
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of the season. You know, same thing with Kelvin
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Shepard. You know, obviously, you know,
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great won a championship with the Tigers line back in his
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freshman year. You know, big reason why those
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defenses were steady in that Les Miles era.
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And then obviously he's been a coach, you know, position coach
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in the NFL with the Lions right now.
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He's really, really built up, built up respecter in the
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league. And of course, you know, he has
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to resume with the Tigers. So I would say that would be a
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massive hire because you know guys, former players, they're
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generally passionate about their programs.
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So it's like the thing with the Honey Badger, though, he's been
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a position coach. Not that the Honey Badger has
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ever coached been a position coach, but can he handle head
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coach? Right.
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That's something we got to look into.
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But who knows, this coaching search might come out and it
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might come from a guy. They might get a guy from out of
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left field like they did with Brian Kelly.
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Because I mean, I had no money on Brian Kelly bringing the
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coach when they announced him. Yeah, like when we talked about
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previously, you know, that was a big shocker to me that they were
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able to bring him down here. Like, so of course, it didn't
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work out ultimately, but but, you know, my thing is, you know,
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going back to Verge real quick, you know, this is a very big
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opportunity for him. I know, like you said earlier,
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just not the ideal circumstance, not the most smoothness of
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transitions, but you know, change, change does happen
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quickly. And I figure for, you know, just
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giving his track record with the university, both as a player,
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you know, has worked his way up, you know, seeing success.
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Obviously he's a different seat, but I know this is a safe hire
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given like his resume, given his connection to the school, you
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know, so like like I'm, I'm supporting him fully and
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hopefully it works out for his sake.
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Yeah. All right, so let's jump on into
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this college football first playoff, brother.
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Anybody jumps out at you? You know, I just I cannot get
24:43
past the fact that Indiana of all schools is in a is in a
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contending conversation in the sport of football.
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A school that has known historically they built their
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legacy in basketball, men's basketball legendary coach Bob
24:56
Knight when the multiple national championship.
24:58
They had the undefeated season back in the 70s and they said
25:02
like their team the following year, the team before that was
25:04
better than the undefeated team. So it was one of those years,
25:08
but I just never thought I'd seen a day.
25:10
I thought it was like a blimp in the radar.
25:12
Last year, I said, listen, they're still a basketball
25:15
school, play a Wii schedule. They get showed up by Ohio
25:18
State. So I mean, I give them credit.
25:21
I know like, they strategically schedule away.
25:24
But I said they get like a big win.
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You know, I could change my tune.
25:28
Yeah, one team I'm surprised that made it all crawled all the
25:32
way back from Jeff's Pell, Texas.
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Oh, man, this look and and and this is one of the reasons why
25:41
you don't it's hard to prejudge. A lot of people were just out
25:46
on, Oh my gosh, arts garbage. I mean, listen, he wasn't good.
25:51
In fairness, he wasn't good. Wasn't good.
25:53
They all put that game against Nancy.
25:56
Listen, I mean they're justified.
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People are justified to the I mean, like, but this is first
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year as a starter. I mean they were like hyping up
26:04
for a couple years. You know, they was ready to so
26:06
ready for Quinn Eva to get out of there.
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They could put arch in there hype machine all offseason, But
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I love how they there's been a great rebound for them.
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Yeah, but all Arch is done as the quarterback.
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Even when he started last year, he played against opponents that
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weren't SEC caliber opponents. He never once started ASEC game
26:26
last year. One of the one that sickens me,
26:29
but they deserve to be there. I'll give credit where credit is
26:32
due. Oh yeah, that's sick.
26:37
We're so bad at football and they're so good I'm surprised
26:41
Miami still ranked after their two losses in piss poor
26:44
performances. Well, they like, you know, it
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was funny. I was just listening to like
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like Atlanta sports radio show a while ago.
26:54
You know, they just talk about, you know, they, they was talking
26:56
about Carson Beck. You know how he's you know, they
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was and they were talking about like the Miami fans, they were
27:02
getting on them. They were trash talking to him
27:04
like in the first part of the season, you know, like, oh, you
27:07
know, just it was it was Georgia was the problem.
27:09
You know, Mike Bobo was the problem.
27:11
Like they don't develop quarterbacks.
27:13
Will this that in the third. But he said, are you saying,
27:16
listen, calm down, give it time, give it time and look what you
27:19
got? Georgia's ranked #5 and Parson
27:22
back is wishing he just stayed. Listen, yeah, and like I will
27:28
say this though, like, you know, with my Co workers, he he's a
27:30
big Georgia guy. We used to last year we was
27:32
talking sitting there like I don't hate him.
27:34
I don't hate Beck at all. I just feel like you can he make
27:40
can he because he's to make the big plays because you know, like
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it's as good as their defense was last year.
27:46
I mean, they weren't as nearly as dominant as they were in like
27:49
like their championship runs got like Jamie Carter, you know,
27:52
Keely Ringo, all those guys. But they weren't nearly still
27:55
really good, but not a nearly a dominant so.
27:58
And you can't keep asking your defense, especially in this era
28:02
of football. I said, listen, it's tailored to
28:05
the offense. You got to carry the load.
28:07
To his credit, last year he did improve at the end, but before
28:12
he got hurt. But you still have to come back
28:15
healthy and shed that criticism. So he has 6 picks in the last
28:20
two games for Miami. Yeah.
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I mean, you look at stuff like, OK, Vandy, Speaking of coaches
28:28
for LSU, I wouldn't mind hardly. I don't know if he can win.
28:31
Yeah, he he unbelievable job. Put together a good run at
28:35
Vandy. I mean, like just, you know, I
28:37
go back to James Franklin laying that foundation, going back 9 to
28:41
9 to 4, back-to-back years and let matter of fact, let me pull
28:44
up Vandy real quick. I don't want to give a store
28:47
context because I think this is very interesting.
28:51
Yeah, I mean, you got things like, is Georgia Tech still
28:55
undefeated? I.
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Think they lost, Actually, yeah, they lost to NC State 464836,
29:02
yeah. You know, look at all of this
29:04
and it just just to, you know, bring your LSU back into this
29:08
with this weekend. Emma.
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Alabama deserves to be a number four.
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I didn't think I would say it and I hate to admit it.
29:17
Me too. What?
29:19
They have done over there is what a team should typically do
29:23
during the season. You start off terrible and
29:27
progressively each week get better and better and better.
29:32
And Alabama currently looks like to see him win in the national
29:37
championship. They've been rolling, man.
29:40
They haven't taken a break yet. They really responded like, and
29:44
it pains me to say, you know, because I know a lot of people
29:47
hate LA lot of people down here, certain people, not a lot.
29:52
They hate LSU. So they support Bama, Get on the
29:55
Barrel. Any bandwagon that's anti LSU,
29:57
that's what they're going to go with.
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They have a lot to cheer about being fake.
30:03
Yeah, I think, I think they knew right now only reason Texas A&M
30:11
stays undefeated until they go rolling down and go play at
30:16
Texas, OK, I see them going 11 and 11 and one this year.
30:22
Only reason I say that is because Texas will be fired up.
30:26
They playing at home this year. But the only reason Texas A&M
30:29
hasn't lost the game yet is because they had had that
30:31
October game against Alabama. I said what I said.
30:35
I mean, you can't look that bad in the first half against LSU or
30:40
the whole game defensively against or, but ever since A&M
30:46
played. But I'll tell you what, I don't
30:49
I think we're going to get beat on Saturday night something.
30:51
Tells me tell. You fan, we're going to get beat
30:54
unless they come out and they run a totally different
30:57
offensive scheme. They put it together in two
30:59
weeks, then they come out with fire.
31:02
It might be a closer game. I think we're going to get beat
31:04
though, but it's not going to be a dumpster fire like you I
31:10
thought it would be. Yeah, last year it was a
31:11
dumpster fire. It was tough two years ago to
31:14
Dunsa fire defensively but. Yeah, I think depending on what
31:18
happens with Oklahoma the rest of the season, I think LSU could
31:22
potentially upset Oklahoma at Oklahoma.
31:25
It just all depends on what kind of passion level they bring out,
31:28
what kind of level they bring out to get to where they need to
31:32
be. I mean, I like the College
31:35
Football Playoff ranking. There's teams on here that like
31:39
it all boils down to what we. I said when we get the first bit
31:43
first podcast on this back in August.
31:48
No. The AP poll and the coaches poll
31:52
don't mean anything. Not especially not after
31:54
November, after October, I'm sorry.
31:58
Think they should come out with the College Football Playoff
32:01
poll? Go with the month of September
32:03
when everybody plays their non conference games or their
32:06
historically typically weaker games.
32:10
You know, go in in October when those games start the matter.
32:15
Have the first playoff poll be the second week in October or
32:18
the first weekend in October after the first games because
32:21
that's when everybody typically plays that tougher game.
32:23
Yeah, that's right. And do.
32:25
AP In the coaches poll, you know, there's nobody after,
32:31
nobody cares what you're ranked. Just have it like the NFL where
32:35
it just, you come out with the rankings, you know?
32:38
Yeah, it's just like, you know, especially in the playoff era.
32:41
If you're going to use this as you go hard and die by the
32:46
College Football Playoff poll, but many of people who probably
32:51
hadn't touched the football in their entire lives use them the
32:54
whole season. Guarantee or the only reason
32:57
Oregon is one of those teams that are ranked so high is
32:59
because they got two people on the board.
33:01
That the Oregon thing. You know, like, you know, Skull
33:05
always talk about like, you know, these these guys in
33:09
suburban Dallas, it's like like this don't do anything put.
33:14
Him, put him on the committee and it'd be some dude from the
33:19
suburbs in Louisiana going up there.
33:21
That dude needs to learn when to shut up.
33:23
When we ignore Jeff Landry, Jeff Landry goes away and goes and
33:28
does some other stupid stuff. You know, we let him have his
33:33
tie go on the field last year. It went terribly.
33:36
We ignored him everything he had to say after that.
33:40
But for a week last week, that just goes to show you how much
33:43
of a train wreck LSU actually was.
33:48
When we had Matt Mascona fighting with the governor over
33:51
nothing, one of my students asked me this week if I thought
33:53
there was a way if LSU won out, they would eat back in the
33:56
playoff. Thoughts.
33:57
Honestly, three losses. What, you mean you can't, I
34:02
can't count A&M because that's an outlier.
34:04
It's like Brian Kelly said, they told me if I lose this game, I'm
34:09
getting fired. I'm tired of these occasions
34:11
down here telling me how to do my job every week and being
34:15
right all the time. Oh, sit the second-half, we go
34:20
put the practice squad in and then I'll be gone and y'all can
34:25
have your team, you know, because you don't have you don't
34:28
move like that. You don't move like that after
34:30
you get fired. If it was a no, they fired me
34:33
all of a sudden. But my point is if we go in and
34:36
we go to end to Tuscaloosa at #4 Alabama and we be, we come in
34:40
and we handle business at 11:45 AM against Arkansas.
34:44
I mean, what in Kentucky and Arkansas aren't doing this any
34:47
any favors being on our schedule at this point, you know?
34:50
Like we said and then. We go into Oklahoma, we go into
34:54
Oklahoma at 12 and we beat them all twelve playoff teams with
35:01
hopes. We go in and beat them.
35:03
I still don't see it unless we beat Alabama like A&M beat US 49
35:10
to 25 or whatever. They would have to be blowout
35:13
wins. Make it to the playoffs at this
35:16
point. Brian Kelly assured you he was
35:19
not a playoff championship winning coach.
35:21
I mean, Joe Sloan did a terrible job.
35:27
I don't know if you come back after a bye week, the energy
35:31
level be up. I don't.
35:32
But I don't think you can pull it off.
35:35
Even if you beat Alabama. Like I said, if you beat
35:37
Alabama, but you beat them by 30 points and then you turn around
35:41
and you win at at home against Arkansas and you win at home
35:44
against Western Kentucky and then you go to Oklahoma and blow
35:48
them out by 3040 points, I think you can make an argument that
35:51
LSU deserves to be in because they're only two losses.
35:54
That two losses other than that are rank They lost to #3 they
35:59
lost to number six Ole Miss by a touchdown and 16 Bandy at the
36:05
supposed day by a touchdown at Ole Miss and at Bandy with the
36:09
coach that was hell bent on holding them back.
36:12
Like I said, they would have to blow out man, Oklahoma out.
36:17
But that's the only path I can see for them to make a playoff
36:20
this year. So what are you saying?
36:22
And they need a lot of help. Yeah, they need Alabama cold
36:26
defense and offense to get the flu or something this week.
36:31
Honestly, I don't know how Oklahoma played against Texas
36:33
and they looked against Texas and how they look.
36:36
If we get we get weeks back. This is a whole different
36:39
conversation. I'm with you.
36:42
But it looks like he's out again this weekend.
36:45
Which I saw. Yeah, well, any last thoughts?
36:51
Hey brother, I want to tell you we shouldn't be enjoying your
36:53
content for free. I'm working on that.
36:57
It's a privilege. Need a few more viewers and
37:01
listeners and then we can. I'm working on the views as you
37:03
know I work on every day. Yeah, I appreciate that.
37:07
Of course, I got a new pickleball racket, too.
37:10
It was a pseudo. A pseudo gift.
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Yeah. So it's going to be a spare.
37:14
Yeah. So we got to talk about that
37:16
too. I'm gonna get, yeah, I'm gonna
37:19
get with you tonight. I mean, I got to do got some
37:24
stuff for work. The end of this, the last week
37:27
of this month, I'm completely off.
37:28
And we should definitely get back into it.
37:30
For sure. It looked, I'm going to remind
37:34
everybody, it looks like I'm looking down a lot.
37:36
It's because my camera's right there and I used to do it on my
37:38
phone, so I'm used to looking at will while we're doing this.
37:42
Say I'm looking at you, brother. I know my camera's up here, I'm
37:45
looking here so. And now I got to look down and
37:48
it just looks. Every time I watch videos back
37:50
it looks weird that I'm looking down, even the ones that did so
37:54
I'm looking down. Nothing to the camera yet.
37:59
As long as we hear each other communicate better.
38:03
Yeah, I enjoyed it. Always.
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