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I Am All In…Again: Big Time Gilmore (Season 1 E19 “Emily in Wonderland”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let Hi, I am all in again with Scott Patterson
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  Speaker 2: in iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one
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  Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeart Radio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast. We have
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  Speaker 1: a very special guest, Kendall Schmidt is joining us. Hello Kendall,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Hi high Hi. We probably
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  Speaker 1: know him best as the lead singer of Big Time Rush,
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  Speaker 1: but his career started long before that. He's been acting
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  Speaker 1: since childhood, with roles in E. R. Frasier and Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 1: Appeared in season two episode five, Nick and Nora Sitting
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  Speaker 1: Nancy as kid number one, and return in season three
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  Speaker 1: episode three, Application Anxiety as Peter. We're excited to have
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  Speaker 1: him here. Welcome Kendall. How are you? And I understand
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  Speaker 1: so good?
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  Speaker 3: I'm so good. It's so funny, the U, the characters.
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised they even had names number one.
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  Speaker 4: They all have names Kid number one Peter.
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  Speaker 3: Just like you guys needed a for a couple episodes,
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  Speaker 3: if you just needed a kid, I was there to
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  Speaker 3: be the kid in the.
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  Speaker 1: Episode, and so you did. You did two total episodes,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, here you are here. I am and you're
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  Speaker 1: a big rock star and uh, you know you you're
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  Speaker 1: just taking the world by storm. And we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: all We're going to get into all that. But what'd
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  Speaker 1: you think of this episode? Emily? In Wonderland air date
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  Speaker 1: April twenty sixty, two thousand and one, Roy takes her
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  Speaker 1: grandmother around Stars Hollow for a day and she's horrified
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  Speaker 1: to see where Laura, Lie and Rory first lived. Directed
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  Speaker 1: by Perry Lang, written by Linda Guzik and John Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed this episode. I have to say it was great.
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  Speaker 3: I had my wife giving me a background the entire time,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because I haven't seen every episode like she has,
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  Speaker 3: right right, So I said, oh, and this.
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  Speaker 4: Is what's going on here and everything. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: she's actually in the house watching Gilmore Girls right now.
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  Speaker 1: So gosh, yeah, it was a nice episode. It was
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  Speaker 1: a really nice journey through Laurla and Rory's past in
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  Speaker 1: a very clever way, and a very shocking scene where
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  Speaker 1: Emily and we'll get into it, where Emily finally sees
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  Speaker 1: where Laurel, I and Rory first had their first kind
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  Speaker 1: of place and Stars Hollow, and what a reaction that was. Man.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So we're sitting here Friday night dinner. Rory
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  Speaker 1: asked Emily for family baby pictures, and we find out
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  Speaker 1: that Laura I, who has a nickname of a big
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  Speaker 1: head when she was a child because her head was enlarged.
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  Speaker 4: She's got big hair, She's got big hair for sure, but.
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  Speaker 1: We learned that she burned all of her baby pictures
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  Speaker 1: because her head was too big, and that's why there
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  Speaker 1: are no photographs of a young baby Larela or even
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  Speaker 1: a Talibar. They have a furniture discussion, they talk about
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  Speaker 1: the chairs. That's when Rory mentions Kim's antiques and Stars Hollow.
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  Speaker 1: Emily becomes interested suddenly in checking that out because she
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  Speaker 1: can't she can't get any good antiques in Connecticut. She's
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  Speaker 1: she's she's out of luck. And Lorela attempts to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Emily out of her curiosity over that particular store,
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  Speaker 1: like she doesn't want Emily coming to Stars Hollow. Tara,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about this scene?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like Emily and miss Kim could be great friends,
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  Speaker 5: to be honest with you, that was my first thought.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, I love the scene at the
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  Speaker 5: dinner table, and I think that it was the first
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  Speaker 5: time that we're going to see Emily really see their
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  Speaker 5: life in Stars Hollow, right, and it's set up. It's
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  Speaker 5: the setup to a big storyline coming.
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  Speaker 1: It Isn't it amazing? Though? After all these years, I
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  Speaker 1: mean sixteen years, and has she ever been to Stars Hollow?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that's odd?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's also there are there are parts where
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  Speaker 5: I'm like the inconsistencies of it a little bit and this,
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  Speaker 5: and Susanna and I get into this in our episode
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  Speaker 5: the town Meeting episodes, but you know, like I don't
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  Speaker 5: understand when she moved into that shed. We'll get there,
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  Speaker 5: but like it didn't seem consistent with when Laura l
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  Speaker 5: I moved out.
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  Speaker 6: So it was just interesting. Yeah, it was a little interesting.
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  Speaker 1: How like.
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  Speaker 5: Did she move out the second like she got pregnant,
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  Speaker 5: when she had the baby?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't really know the history there right by.
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  Speaker 3: By episode nineteen right season in the first season. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm always wondering how much the writers like think about
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  Speaker 3: the actually all of the different backstory, things that wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: you know, that don't exist in real life, but that
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  Speaker 3: need to exist in order to build the characters right,
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  Speaker 3: and and how much like and now they've gotten nineteen
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  Speaker 3: episodes in that's a lot of writing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think I think they probably do plan for
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  Speaker 1: a lot. You know, they'll they'll plan out a couple
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  Speaker 1: of seasons out and then they'll do a backstory thing.
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  Speaker 1: But there's always things that come up that bite you, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, we didn't there's the whole world right, right right.
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  Speaker 1: No matter how thorough you are, right, no matter how
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  Speaker 1: large your bible is, your writer's bible is, there's always
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  Speaker 1: going to be something that like, oh, no, what are
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  Speaker 1: we going to do about this situation? Because we didn't
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  Speaker 1: come right.
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  Speaker 3: That she never would have been there at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I know some people don't see their parents
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  Speaker 3: very often, but I also thought when I saw you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like when you have people come over
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  Speaker 3: and you go, oh, sorry, the place is a mess.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, please forgive me, you know, don't
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  Speaker 3: worry about that. And of course when you go over
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  Speaker 3: to someone's house, you're never sitting there unless their house
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  Speaker 3: is a real mess.
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  Speaker 4: You're not sitting there walking around going like oh geez mes, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean very most you're like, well kind of weird furniture.
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  Speaker 3: But I thought, like, I thought that for being a
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  Speaker 3: single mother, their house is really cute. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe it's not all the finest appliances and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: but I was thinking, like, I'd be proud of this place.
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  Speaker 3: It's really kitchy and they have a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 3: cute items, and I thought it was kind of a
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  Speaker 3: nice house, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a nice little house for two people. That's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: It is kind of perfect. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously she's coming from being super wealthy and
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  Speaker 3: everything like that, but you know, I'm like, kind of
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  Speaker 3: kind of a nice house. I'm impressive for a woman
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  Speaker 3: off being a single.
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  Speaker 4: Mother basically and a new town and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, yeah, would you rather live in a
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  Speaker 1: mansion with all the stress or in a cute little
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  Speaker 1: house in a nice town with none.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, me and my wife say this all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Little house, big.
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  Speaker 1: Life, Right there, you go, that's what they have.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, so Emily and Rory make plans to visit Stars
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  Speaker 1: Hollow on Saturday. She's going to put off some studying
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  Speaker 1: and Laurel I have some pretty funny moments about how
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  Speaker 1: she's not going to be available Saturday, and Emily says, well,
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  Speaker 1: nobody really asked you to jump? Why do you think, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious why Emily is so eager to see
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  Speaker 1: Stars hollow. She wants to spend time with her granddaughter.
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  Speaker 1: It's not it's not Star's hollow. It's it's getting to
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  Speaker 1: know Rory. Right, she gets to relive, She gets another
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  Speaker 1: bite at the apple, as it were, to like not
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  Speaker 1: screw up, you know what I mean, Like like the
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  Speaker 1: way she did with Laurel I. Now she's got a
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  Speaker 1: she's got a second chance with with Rory to establish
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  Speaker 1: a relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Makes you wonder why at that time, you know that
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  Speaker 3: she's like so curious about it, re establishing the relationship.
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  Speaker 3: And I also think it's funny how hard she is
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  Speaker 3: on Laurel I as well, considering she's trying to connect
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  Speaker 3: with her granddaughter.
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  Speaker 4: And then she's like, but you can bug off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, in her mind, Laurel is just a lost
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  Speaker 1: cause she knows she's not going to have a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Whether there's too much water under that bridge. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's at least the impression we're getting at this point,
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  Speaker 1: and that's coming to the end of season one, and
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  Speaker 1: that's where obviously the right is taking us, and that's
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  Speaker 1: where it should take us, because there's then then you
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  Speaker 1: have to come back from that. So now we're in
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  Speaker 1: the diner. A lot of a lot of diner stuff,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Luke, Rachel, Laureleye stuff in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: right right. And Rachel's so nice, you know, she wants
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  Speaker 1: to be buddies with the Laurel I and here I
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  Speaker 1: took a picture of you two and you know, sitting
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  Speaker 1: there on the bench.
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  Speaker 6: Just really awkward, like, hey, let's take a picture of
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  Speaker 6: you with my ex.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm going to give you a blow. You
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  Speaker 1: not nice here? Remember it? He's mine now? So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And then she talks about the dragonfly and she took
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  Speaker 1: a picture of dragonfly in and Laura they make a
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  Speaker 1: date to go see it. Luke has a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a problem with it. I guess not much, but
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  Speaker 1: it's just like whatever, And it's really just setting up
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  Speaker 1: that scene in the in the storage room for later.
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  Speaker 1: But what'd you guys think of this scene?
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  Speaker 4: Well, awkward, that's the impression I got. I was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: It made me think of It's not exactly the same situation.
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  Speaker 3: But there's that. There's a video I saw one time.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a comedy video, and it was like
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  Speaker 3: having a conversation with your platonic friends. This guy having
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  Speaker 3: a conversation with this girl and he's and she's like.
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  Speaker 4: How you been.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, good, good, you know, I've been great,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just friends. And then he's like how you been.
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  Speaker 3: She goes, well, Todd and I broke up, and then
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  Speaker 3: you know, oh, he says he just got into a
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  Speaker 3: relationship and how great it is. And then he asks
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  Speaker 3: her and how she goes, well, Todd and I broke up,
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  Speaker 3: and then his whole life crumbles before him because this
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  Speaker 3: is the friend that was always they were just platonic
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  Speaker 3: and they never you know.
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  Speaker 4: Connected like that.
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  Speaker 3: And she's saying, like, I just A'm thinking about getting
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  Speaker 3: out and being wild and everything, and he's like, oh god, right,
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  Speaker 3: I think that. I mean, is that sort of tension that,
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  Speaker 3: if you will, that sexual tension between Laura Li and
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  Speaker 3: Luke is that going all the way from the very
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  Speaker 3: beginning of season one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, basically yeah, but they're not acting on it,
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  Speaker 1: and they had a couple of chances and they're just
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  Speaker 1: not going to act on it right now, and everybody's
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  Speaker 1: going their separate ways. It's like, oh, well, but I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's like it's a small town. You really want
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  Speaker 1: to get involved with the diner owner, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, even.
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  Speaker 4: Though it's pretty he's pretty cool, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but still it's like, got it. You want to
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  Speaker 1: you go there every day with your daughter, You want
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  Speaker 1: to have food day, you want to relax. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want to have all that stuff. I don't blame her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for for being so cautious.
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  Speaker 6: She also can't help it.
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  Speaker 1: Can't help what because she's addicted to coffee?
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  Speaker 6: No, that she has a crash on Luke, Like she
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  Speaker 6: doesn't want to admit it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that but but if they're together, if they
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  Speaker 1: get together, that completely changes the relationship.
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  Speaker 5: No, I know, but I feel like she has these
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  Speaker 5: moments like talking to Rachel, where she's always wondering, like
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  Speaker 5: what Luke's like in a relationship.
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  Speaker 6: That's how I took it.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right anyway, nice dynamics. I think Rachel's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: appealing character, right, She's very likable. You really believe that
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  Speaker 1: she grew up there and she was one of those there.
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  Speaker 1: There's always a subset of people in towns like that
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  Speaker 1: that want to get the heck out of there, that's
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  Speaker 1: stifled by the place, and they want to go out
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  Speaker 1: and see the world. And she's one of them. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: we're at the end. Very funny stuff here. Anytime you
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  Speaker 1: have a Max Perlock as Rune, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a good scene. So he's in the lobby, we see
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  Speaker 1: Roon again, and he's staying with Jackson. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: Suki doesn't know how to tell Laurelai this. They don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to tell Laurala I that that run is
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  Speaker 1: in town staying with Jackson, but that that Rune needs
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  Speaker 1: a place to stay and he needs a job and
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  Speaker 1: this is all falling of Laura. What did you guys
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  Speaker 1: think of this?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Kendall, do you know what happened with Ruin?
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  Speaker 5: Did Mika explain this to you?
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  Speaker 3: She gave me a little bit of the backstory. But
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  Speaker 3: I know that he's kind of uh not bad apples
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  Speaker 3: not the right word, but a challenging character.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but can.
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  Speaker 4: You explain why he's challenging that? That part I didn't get.
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  Speaker 1: Is he just like, well they went on a date together,
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  Speaker 1: Well they were not.
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  Speaker 5: They was kind of like forced because Suki and Jackson
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  Speaker 5: were on a date. And then he pulled Jackson aside
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  Speaker 5: and was like, I can't date her. She's tall, like
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  Speaker 5: right in Laurel's house and am amazon. And he was
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  Speaker 5: just rude throughout the whole dinner and just make comments
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  Speaker 5: like why did you set me up with her? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Basically he was not appreciative of who he was having
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  Speaker 1: a date with. He just he didn't say it. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm out, I can't do this. It
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  Speaker 1: was really funny.
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  Speaker 4: Anything ever come up with them? Like do they ever
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  Speaker 4: go on another date?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? No?
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  Speaker 6: It was like stay far away. So that's why when
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  Speaker 6: he comes up, you're like, why is he here?
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  Speaker 1: Right to work?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, where did he come from?
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  Speaker 6: Jackson's cousin?
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  Speaker 4: Right, and he doesn't have a job, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: a place to stay.
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  Speaker 6: No, he was visiting.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't exactly a catch either, No, no, yeah, to
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  Speaker 3: say the least.
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  Speaker 1: The thing I love about the Palatinos is they they
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  Speaker 1: know families very well because there's always somebody, there's always
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  Speaker 1: a cousin. You know, you get Lizen TJ right, you
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  Speaker 1: get now, you got roun you get Jackson with a roon.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so good.
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  Speaker 4: Family to which cousin is that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody has one, you know, there's one or two,
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  Speaker 1: there's no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's so weird thinking about it now with having a
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  Speaker 3: baby and then my brother and my siblings and my
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  Speaker 3: wife's siblings having kids and stuff, all the cousins, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, my god, which one of this generation is
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  Speaker 3: going to be that cousin?
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  Speaker 4: It's not mine?
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  Speaker 1: All right? So Emily, Emily's now and stars hollow and
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  Speaker 1: she's wearing she's she's wearing glarelized socks and sneakers and
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  Speaker 1: and it's the only way she can she can motor
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  Speaker 1: around town and comfort. She's not happy about it, but
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  Speaker 1: then she kind of gets used to it and she's
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  Speaker 1: swallowing and she's feeling pretty good. And you know, they
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  Speaker 1: go into they go into Kim's antiques, and immediately Emily
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  Speaker 1: and missus Kin get into a negotiating battle over a
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  Speaker 1: very fine piece of furniture that missus Kim wants thirty
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  Speaker 1: two hundred for and Emily offers two. And they go
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  Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth and back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: and Emily just falls in love with missus Kimp because
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  Speaker 1: she's as tough as she is, right, And let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the parallels between and the similarities between missus Kim
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  Speaker 1: and her experience with Lane. How she's raising Lane and
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  Speaker 1: how Emily apparently was raising Laurelai at the same age.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? But these two would be friends. They're
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  Speaker 1: very similar. Is Lane a young Larelai?
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  Speaker 5: Probably as someone who was really sheltered and wanted to
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  Speaker 5: get out. I think I don't think they're exactly the same,
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  Speaker 5: but I think there are the similarities there.
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  Speaker 6: And having protective.
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  Speaker 4: Parents they give similar energy for sure.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny that you said earlier that they would
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  Speaker 4: be friends.
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  Speaker 3: That's really clever writing as well to put that together,
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  Speaker 3: because that could be a missed opportunity there to to
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  Speaker 3: not have them connect, you know, on the fact that
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  Speaker 3: they're similar missus Kim and and Emily and I I
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  Speaker 3: actually thought the thirty by the way, in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: is an expensive piece of furniture. Yeah, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: that's that's outrageous, Like that's like ten thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 3: today's money.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, what was the what was it?
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  Speaker 4: Was it like a chess these.
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  Speaker 1: Are old antiques, rare pieces. You know. Emily was she
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  Speaker 1: scoured every antiques store in Connecticut until she told she
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  Speaker 1: was stupidly told her friend about all of these great places,
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  Speaker 1: and she went and bought everything up and left Emily
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  Speaker 1: out to dry. So Emily had to find a new source.
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  Speaker 1: She found She found it with missus Kim. So, yeah, that.
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  Speaker 5: Stuff's expensive, like anyone in stars Hollow buying that. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think anyone in Star Starts Hollows shopping there.
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  Speaker 3: There's places that in Vermont that remind me of that
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: where you know, you go it's an I know it's
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: an antique store, you know, and I know that some
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: of these things are a couple hundred years old. But
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: you're like, I just was looking for a coffee table,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to buy something from Ikia, but
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: also I don't think I can buy this Louis the
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: fifteenth coffee table for twenty five thousand dollars.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Like, have you ever gone on first DIBs or not?
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: First DIBs? Yeah, first DIBs. It's like that website that
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: sells antiques stuff like that. You're like, Oh, I'm gonna
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: go in here and find something interesting. Of course everything
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: is twenty grand Peace, but yeah, there's places like that
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: in Vermont that remind me of that. Everything in there
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: and you're like, I don't think the people around here are.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Buying this stuff. I think, yeah, coming up and you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: yeah they have.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: They have antique shops all all over the North Northeast.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: People driving through or buying.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the best antiquing there is absolutely.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: All right. So now we're at the abandoned in with
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Rachel and Lorelei and they have their conversation and laurel
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I shares her vision that includes Suki, and Rachel shares
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that she wants wanted to be a photographer, to be
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: anywhere but there and start as hollow. So she got out.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So they're kind of, you know, they're bonding a little bit.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Suki is being funny and you know, kind of freaked
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: out about the prospect of buying the place and having
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to renovate it, and but she's excited at the same time.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: And hilarious h little appearance by by Melissa McCarthy. It
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: was really a funny scene. And then Rachel lowers the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: boom tells laurel I she's ready to settle down with
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Luke and then we see that look on laurel Ized
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: face and you never see it coming, do you? They
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: really know how to drop in these these story beats, right,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: because these are like necessary story beats. This is storytelling.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You know, how are we going to drop this in?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Why aren't we going to get this in? And then
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: there it is, boom. You just don't see it coming
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: with these With these two, it's it's really fantastic writing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: What'd you guys think of this? Were you surprised when when?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Because I was surprised when Rachel said it's time to
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: settle down.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I mean we've only seen her for a couple of episodes,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: so yeah, like if we're going back, I think she's
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: been in like two or three before this, so it
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: kind of was shocking.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're going to have that character right,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you need they have to. Something's got to happen quick
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: otherwise people lose interest in the character.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Well, now we're really going to lose interest in her
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: because she's going to take look away from Lorealizes. So
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, they're going to storm the.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Poor Cullis with pitchforks, you know, it's Yeah, they're not
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: setting us up to like her that much.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So what do you think here? Here's an interesting question.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Rachel is constantly expressing her desire prior to this, even
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: even in this scene, her desire to be anywhere but
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: stars hollow. How do you think that affects Laureli? Right,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, do you think that's offensive
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to Laurel? I?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Luke I would imagine he's he seems like
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: he's a I mean, he would be the definition of
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: a towny, right, He's a towny. He's the guy he
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: owns a cafe. So her wanting to get out, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: mean that obviously means that she's trying to get him,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: pull him out of town.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Certain people are struck by wanderlust, right. They just want
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to see the world. There's nothing wrong with that. Most
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: people don't. They want to stay in town and and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they want to have their friends and their family, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they don't want to leave the town very often or
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: if at all. But she's just one of these, you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: she's wild at hard I guess, and she just wants
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to see the world. Nothing wrong with that.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: And she's left before.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: So it's interesting that she's saying this now because I
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: think Lurla's probably thinking, well, is she going to leave again?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Right? How many times has she done this to Luke?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: It's like millions of times. They use the word millions,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: so she must have done she does this all the time,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: It's called doing a geographical Oh is that geographic? Geographical?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: It's like that's a therapy term right where it's like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: you know, you can move to another place, but you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: if you don't address the problem, then you're just moving
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: your problem to another place.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Right, You're just.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Going, well, maybe life would get better if I lived
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: in Hawaii, which it might arguably, I might be better.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: But yeah, she seems like she might have that sort
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: of I mean, what do you what are you running from?
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe just not wanting to be stagnant in a town
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: or something like that. But it makes me think of
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I remember I've read this somewhere about maybe it was
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: in one of those like Stapiens books or something like that,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: but it was like that there's no there's no human
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: like biological prerogative to travel, you know what I mean?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: The real you just humans just need food, water and
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: shelter and stuff.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Like that. But so like traveling is like a new thing,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: you know, and.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Some people like I just I gotta get out of here.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I gotta go, I gotta go. It's interesting because there
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: isn't and it's more of a psychological thing. It's not
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: a necessity, actual necessity to live a good life. You
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: don't have to travel, that's true, especially.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: A cute town like Stars Hollow.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: You know, you could, you know, you could live in
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: a cute town like that your whole life, as long
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: as you maybe go on a couple of vacations a year.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: When I was growing up and reading books, and I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: was always wondering what these places were like and wanting
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to go there, you know, right, because there's stories attached
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to it, and it's more than just going to a place.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: It's sort of revisiting your childhood almost, you know, and discovering,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you know again, all those feelings you had while you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: were learning about that place and those events that took place,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and whether it's a poet that you particularly like, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you can walk that that that road to Paris from
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Charlesville and you know, retrace their footsteps and that kind
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of thing. So yeah, but I yeah, I think I
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: think you're right. It's probably uh, you know, with the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: with the industrial age and the ease with which people
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: can transport themselves. Yeah, that's the traveling became a thing.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: You're crazy.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: If you just buy a ticket, you can be in
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: you know, if you can get the ticket, you can
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: be in Paris tomorrow.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah you know.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, actually I guess if that's right now.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Wild right, right, It wouldn't take three years to get
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: there by foot, right because you had to work, because
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you had to work jobs along the way to get there,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like like in the middle of the eighteenth century. So, uh,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: we're back at the end. Run is uh. Now, this
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: is one of the finer scenes I think in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: entire episode with Michelle and Run and Michelle are going
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: at it and Michelle doesn't believe him that, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: he has a job there and that he's going to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: live there. He's like, go away, little tiny man. You
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what he believes you. And Emily and Rory
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: come in and and Emily meets Michelle and they of
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: course hit it off. The famous oh.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, his French accent was all she needed.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Right, that's it. A couple of French words and she
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: was done, and laurelized a little shocked by Emily's shoes,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a choice of restaurant, and her pleasant mood. I don't
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: know that she's ever seen her mother like this, right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Definitely, not in those shoes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Not in those shoes. And Rory and Emily are having
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a really great time, aren't they. I mean they're really really.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, Rory's just having a great day and she's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: beaming because she's with her grandma, and that is just
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: so sweet.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: It is one of those things where you're like, they're
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: having too good of a time. Something's going to happen.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Did you feel that way? Did you feel something was coming?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't. I didn't remember where this was going.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: I did, But even before that, I was like, Emily
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: always turns, so I knew something would happen.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Right. It makes Lorla jealous a little bit too to see.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Them bonding, right, I mean, that's totally I guess jealous
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: is the only word I can think of, but the
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: sort of like, well, why wasn't it like that for me?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And also thinking it's like, you know when someone's really
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: nice to you because they want something. So I'm sure
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: she feels a little bit like, what is this manipulation?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: What is this manipulation technique.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: That she's got? Now? Now she wants to like act like.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, and she always sees like she kind
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: of tries to see the bad in her mom. She
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: never tries to see the good because I think it
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: did start.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Out as good.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think laurla I is still kind of
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: in her trauma. You know, it's a trauma response every
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: time she sees her mom, and that's where all the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: humor's coming from. It's a defense mechanism. She's just traumatized
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: by the woman. So that's her reflexive defenses. And then
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we at the height of Emily's joy with stars hollow,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the swans, the lake, the white picket fence, the lawn,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the charming cottage in the back, the gardening shed. Here
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we come. That's when it all ends. Did you you
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: guys didn't see this coming? Terry Kendall, what was your
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: impression of this when Emily, I mean, you didn't know
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the story, right, so a little bit harder for me, right, right?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: So what did you think of this scene? Did you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: have to ask your wife like, hey, what what's going
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: on here?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: She did have to explain it to me. She was
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: as much backstory as possible. Are we talking about when
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: she's at the base.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Shed, no where, the gardening shed where Laurel I ran
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: to when Rory was a baby and they lived in
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the owner of the dragon Fly in who was still
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: employing laurle I took pity on Laura I as a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: sixteen year old with a baby. Right now, we're in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Luke's apartment and this is the first time so we
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: got so we're dealing with curtains that Luke chose that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Laura I finds out that Rachel didn't choose them, and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it's the first time she's in there. Not that she
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: ever thought about Luke's apartment. She's always sort of like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: stumbling around Rachel and getting to explain me with her
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: right Rachel said she doesn't think she will always stay
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in the stars Hollow. Again, here we are with like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I'm out of here, and so that's all this character
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: says is like, I want to get out of here,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and you know, she's got a prompt So she goes
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to Laura I and she says, can you help me
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: with my problem? My problem is I can't convince Luke
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm going to actually stay this time
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: because I you know, I've only run out on them
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: about thirty times. But and we don't know, right, It
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: makes me wonder, It makes me want to know more
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: about what the heck happened between these two and they're
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: telling us, but you know, you'd really rather see it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And so she asked Laura if if if she can
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: give her a little help in that regard, and Laura
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I agree, says yeah, you know, did she agree?
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: She did?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: She did agree. What do you think of this? That's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: putting Laura in a very awkward position, isn't it. And
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: here's here's the real question. Do you think Rachel's aware
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: that Laura I and Luke maybe have feelings for John?
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: I think she can see it, right.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, if she's seen the same thing that we're seeing,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: because we don't know, we don't know if if it
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: looks a little different in the actual world that they're in,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: you know that the characters are in. But I mean,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: if any casual observer could see that there's a tension
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: between the two of them. And I was thinking, like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: are either one of them like a girls girl?
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I mean by that where it's like, you know, she's
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: she's a, hey, we do this favor for me. You know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I need your help, and it's like kind of a
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: kind thing to do. But are either of them girls
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: girls like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Broad? I don't know what the opposite of it is,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: but I.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Think Laura I is.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think we know enough about Rachel, but off
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: the bat, probably not. I don't think she probably moves
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: around too much where she hasn't established like real relationships
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: like that. But again, we haven't learned that much about.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: Her to know.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You know why, I think Rachel asked her to do that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I think Rachel asked Laurela to do that because it
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: was really a test. She was testing local Laura Lai
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to see what they're feelings really work or for each other,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: which would inform her decision to stay or leave right,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: because she suspects there's probably something going on because right,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like Kendall said, you can feel that energy, right, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: she's I mean, she's coming into this situation and she
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: sees this. You know, laural lies beautiful and she's sitting
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: there and you know, a girl girls can tell, right,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they can really tell. I mean, guys can tell when
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: other guys like their women. You know, it's it's it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: just instinctual. We do well, no, we do, we do?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: We do? Come on, let's face it. You know, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: radars out and you know it, man, you know when
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: somebody's locked on and and I think, yeah, this is
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: just a heat check for for for for Rachel. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she's I don't know. I wouldn't
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: accuse her of being manipulative, but it's like, I think
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: she's just sort of like trying to justify another exit
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: stage left because now she's in a situation where she
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: really wanted to come back, she really wanted to start something.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But gosh, I don't know that. Why is Luke being
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: so stubborn? And it's like because of Laurala and Laura,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I would you help me out with this problem? And
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: she kind of thinks she knows already what the answer
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: is going to be.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: You have a point.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Even if she tries, it's not going to be successful.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: People like that are so frustrating because it seems like
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Rachel is the type of person who will ask for
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: things and not realize how awkward to put somebody in
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: a position, you know, there is she like a little
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: oblivious to that. I mean, that's what you're saying that
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: she's got to know that there's some sort of connection there,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: but we don't know if she's seeing it the same
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: way that we're seeing it from.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: You know, that perspective. So it is, yeah, she might
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: be testing her that. I mean, it would seem obvious.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And it leads to that scene in the supply room
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: where Laurla comes in and actually does as asks, advocates
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: for her a little bit. And you know, I think
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: so far in this season, that's one of my that's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite Luke and Laurel I see because it was
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: so filled with truth and it was so filled with
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: masking real feelings on both of their parts. You know,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: he just continued to rip open boxes and stock the
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: shelves right, and he was firm in his belief. And
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, there were two things that Luke
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: was balancing. One was he has no faith or trust
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: in Rachel's ability to stick it out. He's seen that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: movie too many times before, Laurel I relax. He also
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to appear I think, kind of open and available
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to Laurel. I. I think it worked in his favor
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: in both accounts right without really showing how he felt
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: about her. He was showing how he felt about her
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: with his attitude, which is what I love about the scene.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I really love their dynamic and I think the writing.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: The writing is so good. The writing is so good.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: And you know, I've been in four series a series regular,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and to go to work and to get to be
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: in scenes like this is a just a very rare treat.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Going like yes, you know, like as you're reading the script,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: you're going, I know I'm gonna do these scenes later,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: but you're like, oh oh, and that.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: The way they write. You read it, you see it,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: you go, I know exactly what I'm going to do.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I know exactly how to cover this, I know exactly
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: how I'm going to interact with her, and they just
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and they don't put it in a scene description, and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it's not in the dialogue, but it is. They write behavior.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: They write dialogue that elicits behavior. They draw out behavior
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: in you, and I've never seen writing like it. It's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: wonderful to do and I miss it terribly.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of words too.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: But they're but they're perfectly placed words they're perfect words.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of them, but they're still in a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: sense economical in that every word is effective, every word
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: has a purpose. It's not too much. It's like I'm
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: going to take you over here, but we're going to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: come back here because you don't you're not going to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: see this comment. I don't know. I love that.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I think of any examples of shows that I mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: because to me, it seems like Gilmore Girl stands out
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: as a a very particular style, which is probably what
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: made it so popular, because it was, you know, one
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: of a kind in the way that the pacing was
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and the storytelling and all the connections and the characters.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: You know, are there anything that's kind of was it
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: modeled after something or just sort of a.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's very sophisticated film writing from
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the thirties and forties. Yeah, those those fast paced comedies,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and but it's just so smart. You don't find writing
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: like this in television. You just don't find it. It's
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: just I don't know that it's there's ever been writing
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: like this on television.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe the reason for the pacing is because of
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: how much they how much story they were telling. Is like, well,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: we only have forty minutes to do this, so that's
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: why we've got to keep it based up to get
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: this story in you know, all these good character points
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: and everything like that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: I also know that it's in a style.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But you know you're you're a guitar player, right, So
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you go to a figure out Peter Frampton solo, or
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you go to a Clapton solo, you go to a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Hendrick solo, and you just go, wow, how did they
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: do this?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean there are levels. So this is what
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with here with Amy and Dan. It's just
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: remarkable the writing. And it's no accident that you know
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: this show is so popular and that you know ten
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: year old girls are falling in love with it because
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Amy and Dan treat an audience like they're intelligent. They
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: don't ever write down to them. They know that the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: audience will get it. And that's what drives me crazy
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: about most television. They're always dumbing everything down. These two
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: don't dumb anything now you know, they go the other way.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Oh man, well it made it an evergreen, that's for sure. Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: That's hard to do.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: That's hard to do, especially so many years later and
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: people still finding it and it comes up in conversation often.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: All right, now we're in Rory's room, h and Lane
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: tells her that Henry guy hasn't called, and he actually
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: did call, and fine, what was this transition? He did
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: call eight and a half times.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he left a message and she listened back
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: to it eight times.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, eight and a half times. Okay, all right, so
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: he finally called or she just didn't get the message.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: She just didn't pick up, and he left a message
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: and she just kept listening to it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: So he did call, he just didn't answer.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: So she's admitting this now to Rory. Yes, so why
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: was she saying that he never called?
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: No idea. I think it's just a teenager being a teenager.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: All right, we won't dwell, let's not do well, okay,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I ain't now at the movie theater, this was great,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: This is so good, this is see this is something
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you just don't see. And I don't know where they
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: came up with this line. But when she said you
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: want to take that that particular medication to Kirk the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: cinement'out a found about of it? What did she say?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Remember this scene Kirk sits behind him, and he's telling
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: them to be quiet even though the lights.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Are still on, right, yeah, he wanted quiet before the
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: movie started.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Then he said he was feeling a little under the
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: weather or something like that, or he was sniffing or
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: some sniffles, and Lorelai turns around said, you want to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: take that cine fin and minus obada, you don't want
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to be driving a fort left. You get a bet
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: your drowsy, And they're just you know, it's like, where
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: do they get this stuff? Where do they get this?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is just like.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: They're having fun with it, you know, in that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Way right right, It's like two people having a good
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: time and enjoying their lives at the expense of poor Kirk,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: who has no idea what they're talking about. And it's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: not like it's hostile. It's just like a fun little
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: thing they throw. And then they see Rachel and Luke
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: come in, and.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: I was kind of surprised by that, were you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: I was surprised that like his arm was around her
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: and they were like suddenly dating. It seemed like after
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: the conversation in the stock room, Oh that's to throw
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: us off, No, I know, but like I don't know
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: I've watched it so many times. I'm still watching it
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: like it's the first I'm like, oh, it was shocked,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: like his arm was around her.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: You know, they made up.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Every time I see the Luke outfits, it's so funny.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you had people dressing up as
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: you for Halloween.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, like legions every Helloween.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it makes sense. Plus, it's an easy
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: costume to pull off. You know, people can put it
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: together with something to have in their house.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody's got a flannel, everybody's got a baseball, you know. Hard.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: We did an event at the Warner Brothers lot and
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: it was a Gilmore Girl's event and Scott was there
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: and every girl dressed their boyfriend as Luke. They were
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: just like hundreds of Luke's walking around.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I saw those posts. Was that at the ranch or
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: was it at the lot? That wasn't at the ranch?
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: You guys filmed the lot a lot.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're at the back lot. Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I need some of that coffee by the way.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah. They The only way to get it
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: is go to the Warner Brothers website.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say on the tour, right, you can
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: get it right.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: The tour website. You can get the coffee, can get
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: all fine. We have we keep increasing excuse so there's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: probably more there. Now you can get hot chocolate too.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, more stuff coming. Very exciting, all right. So
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: at the movies, uh, Laurelin and and Rory gossip about
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Emily's phone call that Emily wants to be Rory's pal.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Now Kirk sits behind him, tells him be quiet. Luke
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: upholding Rachel's hand. We've discussed this. Rory agrees with Laura
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I that she did the right thing by butting into
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the Luke and Rachel's relationship, trying to influence it. All right,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: So now we're back at Friday night dinner with one
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of the funniest entrances I think I've seen so far
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: on a Friday night dinner. This might be the ultimate
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: entrance where Laurel I opens up all chipper and happy
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and leans in and says, Rory, check the rubbing alcohol.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And then she invites Rory and takes off with Laurel
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I's just and they're like, okay, I'm fine, yeah, okay,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I would just commit right, just brilliant stuff. I mean,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: it's just brilliant stuff. You know what it is. This
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: is like theater. It's what you This is theater. They're
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: giving her performance like their own stage on Broadway, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: we get to see it. And I thought Perry Lang
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: did a fantastic job directing this episode, really beautifully directed episode.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: He just felt the impact of everything throughout the entire piece.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: And then we say that Emily has made Rory her
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: own room so she has a place to go. And boy,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I tell you it's it's a win win for Emily
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: because she gets the benefit of pleasing her granddaughter, but
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: she also gets to stick that dagger into Laurel li
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: ion twist it at the same time. Right, what'd you
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: guys feel about that? I thought it was a little
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: bit cruel that she didn't prep Laurel I on this.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she can her heads up.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: That probably wouldn't fly in most situations. You know, I
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: think everybody would be pretty ticked off about that. I mean,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: it is weird.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I guess she just she does seem to like to
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: go after her, you.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Know, set her up.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: She set her up. And I thought Laura I handled
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it beautifully like she wasn't trying to start a fight.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: But mom, you know, hey, you know what's going on here? Okay, look,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I don't have a problem with it,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: but it's like, you know, you could have let me
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: know and then Emily attacks her.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely came up sudden. Like even Laura I
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: was like, when do we start? When did we start fighting?
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: She was waiting for that opportunity to bring it up.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, how horrible that she has to stand there
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and absorb that and again more trauma. I don't know
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: how honestly, at this point, Laura I can take it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know why she even goes back there on.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: Friday nights early on season one.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Right, it's like, wow, you have to deal with that
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: maniac every Friday night, and you know she's looking for
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: an excuse to tear into her and yeah, at this point,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, don't go back just there's no reason for it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: How far away did they live, by the way, like twenty.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Minutes, twenty minutes, twenty thirty minutes, yeah, twenty thirty minutes.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: All right, So now there's this long walk and talk
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: night Time stars Hollow and mother and daughter are having
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: their conversation about the evening's events. The bloodshed the humor.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Laura I says she never opened up to Emily about
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: what she has been through because of you know, pride, right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And then they show up to the diner for happy
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Pie and they see Rachel. She thanks LOURAI for speaking
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to the loop. Things are working out. She's got her
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: own drawer now. Luke gave her a set of keys.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: It's a it's it's a big scene. And Rachel says
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: she's gonna stay for a while. And then they bring
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the coffee and the coffee doesn't taste the same anymore.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a beautiful device? M hmm, isn't that? Isn't
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: that just the great writing? And the coffee doesn't taste
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: as good anymore. It tastes different.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: To find a new cafe, mmmm, diner.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: So there's trouble in Denmark. Let me tell you all right,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Laurel I feel she can never fully open up to Emily.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Obviously Rachel decided to stay complicates the whole thing. I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: see it, you know what, I see more from Laura
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I in this instead of thinking about herself and her
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: own emotions getting scrambled because of the you know this
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: this quote unquote rivalry, it's is this good for Luke.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I think she's more concerned about him as a friend
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: at this point. You know, I think, of course there's
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: maybe some feelings there, but it's like this girl, right,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: this Rachel is Rachel the right for him. So I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: think maybe she's looking through a lens of friendship to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: see if this is the right situation for him because
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: her friend keeps getting hurt by this woman and she
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't like that, you know, So as a friend, I
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: think she's she's something's off here. The coffee's wrong, she's wrong,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that's wrong. That's my friend, and I may have feelings
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: for him, but he's my friend first and foremost, and
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see him get hurt. And that's
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: how she played it, and I thought it was really
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: quite touching. It was really quite.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Touch aggressive balance too, you know, yeah, to be in
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: that situation, I mean, I'm sure many of us have
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: had situations like that where you like somebody but this
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: is not going somewhere, But then you really and then
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: they start dating someone and you're like, well, am I
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: telling them?
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Am I feeling off because of that?
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Or my feeling off because I just don't think that
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: you know that person is right for them.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, let's talk about what's really really important here. Okay,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: what's really important is that Kendall, you and Big Time
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Rush are heading back out on tour. That's right, Oh
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: my god, tell us about that.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: I guess we're gonna watch so much Gilmore Girls.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: On the back. Well, I would hope.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm actually gonna see.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna see if I just start playing it like
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Logan and I are sharing a bus on this tour,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: so I'm going to see if he I'm just gonna
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: start leaving it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: On the TV and the phase attention on it, you.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Know, if I catch him sitting down with a nice
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: glass of wine watching and being like, do you see
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: what's going on here? What? So?
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: When's the tour began? Where are you guys going? How
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: long is it going to go? For?
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Tell us about the tour starts July uh ninth, and
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: then goes until.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: And where, where and where are you going to open
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the tour?
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: We're going to open in, of all places, Birmingham, Alabama.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Nice number one.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I've been to Birmingham. I like Birmingham.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great town.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: And then second in Nashville and then we cruise all
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: the way through the country.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: We have thirty eight shows in the US. Oh my goodness, stick,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: we'll be all over the place.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Well, we wish you a lot of luck on that.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: It was great talking to you, great catching up, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: good luck with the tour and good luck with watching
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the next what six seasons of Gilmore girls with your
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: with your sharpa yeah, your lovely wife. Much appreciate the time,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Ken Kendall Schmidt, Big Time Rush coming to you on tour.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Go check them out. You'll have a good time. Terrorist suit.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Great seeing you. It's been too long.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: I know I never jump on, well not I never do.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: We've all we all switched, but I was like, Kendall's
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: coming on, so I have to jump on.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you didn't come up for me, You came
• 51:07
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