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Jamie Thivierge - From Marital Meltdowns to Motivational Moments · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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Speaker 2: Dot Ie. This is the Cats in Fudding podcast, a
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Speaker 3: And now here's Jen.
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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Cats and Pudding. And
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Speaker 4: today we have a great episode. We have my friend
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Speaker 4: Jamie Tiverige. I said it right, said out because the
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Speaker 4: H is silent, H is silent, and you're you're married.
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Speaker 4: And now I've done just learned something new about you. You
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Speaker 4: married a Frenchman.
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Speaker 3: I married a Frenchman, but I'm almost one hundred percent Italian.
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Speaker 2: Well that's the sex. Good because he's French, because they're
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Speaker 2: like a language, a love of them.
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Speaker 3: Not bad, not bad. I mean I do have a
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Speaker 3: glow about me.
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Speaker 2: You certainly do. And I'm not saying it's all just.
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Speaker 3: And he's here, so maybe later you can meet him.
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Speaker 4: Wow, I love to I want to say that, I
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Speaker 4: want to see the whole package.
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Speaker 2: Does he does he have an accent?
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Speaker 3: Still he does not?
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Speaker 2: But does he.
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Speaker 3: Speak very little? I mean when you see him, he
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Speaker 3: looks more like a lumberjack than he does a Frenchman, but.
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Speaker 2: A lumberjack Frenchman. I love it.
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Speaker 3: He's a good guy.
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Speaker 2: He's a good guy.
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Speaker 3: Number two second husband.
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Speaker 2: So but I remember you saying that this one was
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Speaker 2: the one.
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Speaker 3: This is the one, the first one, you know.
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Speaker 4: And that did that lead you to your to where
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Speaker 4: you are now? Maybe to start your journey?
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Speaker 3: I think maybe a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's tell everybody what you do, it's you know.
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Speaker 3: So I am a therapist, a motivated motivator, motivational therapist
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Speaker 3: mostly for women.
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Speaker 2: Glors loved you, by the way.
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Speaker 3: I love Dolores.
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Speaker 2: We know that we love talking to him. I just
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Speaker 2: she's such a great girl.
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Speaker 3: I just need to be with her.
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Speaker 2: I love her so much. She's just such a great
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Speaker 2: good friends and I love her deal.
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Speaker 3: And what I love about Dolores is that she's so real.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and what you see is what you get.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely talking about Dolores Katana from the Housewives.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Dolores, we're coming to get love girl.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a good friend. Well, I love her.
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Speaker 4: She and since my my I told you, my brother
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Speaker 4: has been in the.
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Speaker 2: Hospital, she every day checks on me.
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Speaker 4: You know, she's she always makes sure she's you know, uh,
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Speaker 4: keeps in charge and she's just she's just a good friend.
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Speaker 4: And she's the type of friend where I don't have
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Speaker 4: to hang out with her every day to know that
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Speaker 4: if I called her a second to drop it and
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Speaker 4: come and help me.
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Speaker 3: Well, when you two were together, I happen to have
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Speaker 3: this nice little gift inside of me that is not
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Speaker 3: prideful at all. But if I'm going to motivate women
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Speaker 3: and people they need, you need to embrace what how
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Speaker 3: you made. And for me, I just can sense people's layers.
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Speaker 3: And when the two of you were standing next to
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Speaker 3: each other, the sisterhood that I felt between the two
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Speaker 3: of you was was amazing. So yeah, she's a good,
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Speaker 3: good soul.
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Speaker 2: She's a good person, you know.
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Speaker 4: I you know, as you get older, you don't make
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Speaker 4: friends that quickly.
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Speaker 2: Anymore. You know what I mean. I'm one of the
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Speaker 2: lucky ones.
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Speaker 4: I do have friends for many from since I'm like
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Speaker 4: four years old. I still have those types of friends,
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Speaker 4: which a lot of people don't these days. But I
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Speaker 4: did get rid of a lot of people throughout the years.
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Speaker 3: I like to say, you weeded your garden.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I weeded my gone.
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Speaker 4: But sometimes you have to let people go for your
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Speaker 4: own health. I guess even if you have to love
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Speaker 4: them for a distance.
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Speaker 3: You can love them. You don't have to like them,
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Speaker 3: and you have good healthy boundaries. Yes, that's a good boundary.
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Speaker 3: I being a therapist began for me when I went
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Speaker 3: through some early on personal issues coming out of a
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Speaker 3: divorce of course at the age of thirty and children.
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Speaker 3: I had no children with him. Well, thank god, that's
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Speaker 3: absolutely And it was kind of like.
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Speaker 4: You're connected to that person that I fefe after there's
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Speaker 4: nothing you could do about it. You constantly connected.
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Speaker 3: To them, and it was kind of like we were
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Speaker 3: we were friends, and then we decided, well let's get married.
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Speaker 3: We're dating, and we went in and it was early nineties.
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Speaker 3: Every all of my friends got married, and so of
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Speaker 3: course I had this big twenty thousand dollars Italian wedding,
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Speaker 3: which my father called my oh I know, my twenty
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Speaker 3: thousand daughter, my twenty thousand dollars dress rehearsal, he called it.
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Speaker 3: But of course, you know you're thirty, you're thirty. Twenty
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars dress.
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Speaker 4: That don't give me one hundred thousand because now they're
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Speaker 4: like a hundred thousand.
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Speaker 2: You don't even know. I said stuff out, I have
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Speaker 2: a boy, I have a son.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, but I you know, coming out of that,
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Speaker 3: I went back home when I was thirty, laying in
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Speaker 3: my old bedroom thinking to myself, Oh my god, you
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Speaker 3: know what do I do. I've been with this person
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Speaker 3: both dating, engagement and married for four years, for ten
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Speaker 3: years of my life. Now I'm thirty and I'm home
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Speaker 3: and I'm back in my old bedroom, and so thirty
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Speaker 3: years old, you know what's put in your mind is, oh,
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Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm going to die alone with you know,
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Speaker 3: no one. But you know, it wasn't it for me.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't about racing right back out there. For me,
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Speaker 3: it was about taking some time for myself to.
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Speaker 2: Have a relationship with yourself.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And then was introduced to my husband that I
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Speaker 3: have now, but.
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Speaker 2: How long you've been together.
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Speaker 3: We're married twenty five years. I do have children, one
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Speaker 3: son twenty wow.
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Speaker 4: And you know what the best thing you could do
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Speaker 4: for your kids is to love each other.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 4: If you if you if the parents love each other
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Speaker 4: and have a good relationship, that is the best thing
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Speaker 4: for a kid. Absolutely get you could see it so
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Speaker 4: much in life that the kids thrive like so much more.
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Speaker 4: That's why you know, this whole single parent household, it's
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Speaker 4: just not good for them. I mean not saying that
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Speaker 4: you don't have good children with one parent, but if
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Speaker 4: you don't, if you can have a happy household with
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Speaker 4: a mother and a father, children do thrive more.
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Speaker 3: They do.
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Speaker 4: It's it's it's not even being any other thing. But
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Speaker 4: it's been proven.
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Speaker 2: Well over and over again.
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Speaker 3: I know my son was one documented proof. My son
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Speaker 3: was one of the few out of his friends to
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Speaker 3: actually have two of us, and all his friends still today.
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Speaker 3: It's the house. You know, he's graduating college, but on
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Speaker 3: weekends everybody's at our so but.
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Speaker 4: Well, because you know, they feel that Copperati and they
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Speaker 4: like to coach the houses that they feel that.
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Speaker 5: And I'd like to be that house. Come on, that's
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Speaker 5: my house too. Everybody likes to do it on my house.
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Speaker 3: It's good. When Nicholas, that's my son, was about two
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Speaker 3: years old, my mother, who I was very close to,
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Speaker 3: she passed away, passed well. She had four five strokes
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Speaker 3: and was in the hospital and for three months, and
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Speaker 3: we were back and forth and back and forth and
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Speaker 3: back and forth.
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Speaker 5: Was he very close to her, very close and she
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Speaker 5: actually no, Nona, she came.
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Speaker 3: We were told she was going to pass away. She
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Speaker 3: never did. She came out of that hospital. As I
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Speaker 3: was raised by super strong women. My father was not
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Speaker 3: in my life for the first seventeen years. He lived locally,
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Speaker 3: but I was raised by my grandmother, my mother, my aunt,
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Speaker 3: and my cousins brought together. Amen couldn't ask for anything
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Speaker 3: different because when you think, when you it's amazing to
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Speaker 3: me how we look back at our past. But we
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Speaker 3: realized God had a plan because.
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Speaker 4: We and you don't realize how much your past makes
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Speaker 4: you the person that absolutely without parents. My mother died,
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Speaker 4: my fallo died when I was very young, and my
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Speaker 4: mother died when I was young, So it was hot.
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Speaker 2: It was I was orphaned time I was youngeen years old.
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Speaker 3: What strength it you? So when my mom got back
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Speaker 3: home from the hospital, I actually collapsed from being so
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Speaker 3: strong for so many years, you need and I developed
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Speaker 3: severe panic and anxiety. I had pulled chest muscles from
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Speaker 3: lifting her, you know, helping to maneuver her bathe her.
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Speaker 3: I was a mess. I lost thirty pounds in four weeks.
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Speaker 3: I could not take care of my son. God bless
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Speaker 3: me Blade by himself. But going through all of that
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Speaker 3: at the at I went to doctor and doctor and
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Speaker 3: therapist and hypnotists and everything. But going through all of that, well,
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Speaker 3: they increased my faith. I have to say it increased
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Speaker 3: my faith. But then I realized I am not Catholic.
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Speaker 3: I grew up Catholic, but I'm a Christian girl and
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Speaker 3: I came through it.
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Speaker 2: Are you a non denominational now.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, Christian? I am a pastor assistant pastor. I'm
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Speaker 3: a yes, and I love it. And I empower women
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Speaker 3: to all ages. You know something going through the days
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Speaker 3: where you you don't have to say, oh, you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm a Christian, just say I'm a Christian. I have
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Speaker 3: my own relationship with God and nobody's business. And so
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Speaker 3: for me when I decided this is something I want
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Speaker 3: to get into. I had no idea how big it
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Speaker 3: would become. So now renewed hope is my practice and
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Speaker 3: I see women's young as six. My oldest client is
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Speaker 3: eighty years old, and it's emotional beauty was born out
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Speaker 3: of my practice.
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Speaker 4: Do you incorporate the like the church into it to like?
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Speaker 4: Would you feel like it's well like.
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Speaker 3: If they want it? But I do get people that
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Speaker 3: come in that have no they have no faith they
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Speaker 3: have so for me, I know who I'm working, I
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Speaker 3: know who's working through me.
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Speaker 4: Do you feel that these people, ever, if that might
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Speaker 4: be the problem, is that if they don't have any
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Speaker 4: faith and believe in something else, I.
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Speaker 3: Do because we have to have some type of foundation
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Speaker 3: and whether it's it has to be some type of faith.
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Speaker 2: You know, it can't be an ideology. It's got to
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Speaker 2: be faith.
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Speaker 3: I mean faith and whatever faith looks like to that
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Speaker 3: individual that's between you and him. For me, I just
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Speaker 3: kind of make it you know that it's okay, that's okay,
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Speaker 3: it's it's you don't have to have your hair in
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Speaker 3: a bun and a turtle neck and a plat skirt
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Speaker 3: on to you know, have a relationship with God. For me,
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Speaker 3: it's like I love everything. I love makeup and jewelry
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Speaker 3: and clothes, but at the end of the day, when
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Speaker 3: it all comes off, I know that there's an emotional,
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Speaker 3: beautiful person inside.
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Speaker 4: Like I was a raised Catholic. I mean I'm not
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Speaker 4: a devout Catholic. I don't go to church every Sunday.
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Speaker 4: I mean I had to. I went to Catholic school,
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Speaker 4: Cathoic Grammar school, Catholic high school, Catholic college I went.
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Speaker 2: I would do the whole gamut. I mean my mother
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Speaker 2: was a bride of Christ. Likes you.
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Speaker 4: I mean it was like legit, like the cathing On
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Speaker 4: And you know, I say to myself, now, you know,
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Speaker 4: I did feel better when I was young when I
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Speaker 4: used to go to church.
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Speaker 2: I used to like going to church.
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Speaker 4: I think I never realized that. Now now I look
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Speaker 4: back on it, I'm like, maybe I should still going
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Speaker 4: back to it.
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Speaker 3: I think, if you find a church that for me,
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Speaker 3: I'm not about religion, I'm about relation, yes, And I
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Speaker 3: think if you find a church that you love and
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Speaker 3: it esteems you for the rest of the week.
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Speaker 4: And I was thinking about doing a Christian church as
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Speaker 4: opposed to Catholic. I do like the Catholic religion, and
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Speaker 4: I you know whatever, but I feel like it's sometimes
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Speaker 4: it's Gothic. It's a little scary, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, growing up Catholic and the same like you said,
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Speaker 3: to Catholic church. I remember being in fifth grade and
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Speaker 3: I went home and said to my mother, Mom, you're
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Speaker 3: paying for me to go to this church or to
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Speaker 3: this school. I don't like it. I'm scared to death.
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Speaker 3: And she yanked me out.
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Speaker 2: At the end of the year.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of rules and regulations.
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Speaker 4: It's very what's the word I want to looking for?
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Speaker 4: It's like militant almost. What good does that doesn't? Because
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Speaker 4: God's supposed to be merciful and loving and happy.
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Speaker 2: He's not. We're not in the military, and.
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Speaker 3: We all screw up, and you know what, when we
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Speaker 3: screw up, you need to know you know what, you're
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Speaker 3: all right?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 3: So emotional beauty came out of just I remember one
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Speaker 3: day thinking to myself, I want I see so many
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Speaker 3: women that come in and they think I need two
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Speaker 3: emotions Jamie, happy and sad, and I don't want to
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Speaker 3: feel anything else. Well, that's virtually impossible because you need
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Speaker 3: to feel, you need to lean into things. There were
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Speaker 3: so many different emotions that women feel and I just
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Speaker 3: want you to know, go ahead and feel them. It's okay.
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Speaker 2: What do you think that women? You juicy? Mostly women
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Speaker 2: to juicy mento.
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Speaker 3: Mostly women. I have had my fair share of men.
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Speaker 3: I'm not opposed to it, but don't say anything.
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Speaker 4: We won't say everybody that's watching you know, do you
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Speaker 4: feel so?
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Speaker 2: What do you think? Is that is always the main problem?
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Speaker 2: Usual relationship?
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's broken relationships that they come
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Speaker 4: in for usually?
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Speaker 3: And this is what I always say, The issue is
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Speaker 3: never really the issue when people come in, they come in.
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Speaker 3: I had one woman come in and said to me, Jamie,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna can I swear on here?
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Speaker 2: Say what you want? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Good. She's like, I'm gonna fucking kill my husband. I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna kill him, or I'm gonna change the locks. And
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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, let's start with the locks. So instead
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Speaker 3: of prison, go to home?
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Speaker 2: Deep right, yeah, well maybe the better choice.
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Speaker 3: So, but the issue really was within herself. But sure,
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Speaker 3: relationships glory are the problem. You know, women who are broken,
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Speaker 3: women who've never taken time to look at who they
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Speaker 3: are or you know, look at their identity, which takes
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Speaker 3: years and it takes wisdom. But I love, I love.
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Speaker 3: I have an eighty year old that comes in and
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Speaker 3: oh my god, she's like, now all the kids are
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Speaker 3: out of the house. Now, all the grandchildren out of
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Speaker 3: the house. Now I'm looking at my husband of fifty
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Speaker 3: something years and I'm like, oh my god, what the
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Speaker 3: hell are you doing here? You know, So it's it's
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Speaker 3: it's relational. But for me, I just want to encourage
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Speaker 3: women to look inside of themselves as well as having
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Speaker 3: the external. Yeah, exactly. So it's a bunch of different issues.
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Speaker 4: Do you ever get like angry with a patient that
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Speaker 4: you just want to triangle them, like like I could say,
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Speaker 4: I was like you stop it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I get that. When I watched The New
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Speaker 3: Jersey Housewife, I want to jump in there and I want.
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Speaker 2: To start being a shad of people.
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Speaker 3: I don't, I mean, of course, I mean because for me, again,
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Speaker 3: it's seeing the it's seeing the layers. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: funny not being addressed.
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Speaker 2: I don't watch reality shows. Oh I really don't. I do.
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Speaker 4: I have a lot of patience to shows, but I
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Speaker 4: don't watch them.
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Speaker 2: I don't have the the I can't.
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Speaker 4: You know, because it I don't like it as entertainment.
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Speaker 4: It makes me nervous, so I don't like to watch
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Speaker 4: it anymore. I used to watch them, you know, years ago.
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Speaker 4: Now I know I'll watch the snippet or whatever. Obviously,
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Speaker 4: if doors I want to see your sh'll tell me
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Speaker 4: I'll watch this, and I'll and I'll do it, and
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Speaker 4: I'll watch it, but I'll further, I have no time
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Speaker 4: to do it anyway, and by tell I put the
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Speaker 4: TV on, It's like I'm watching it for ten seconds
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Speaker 4: and I'm out sleeping. I mind it twenty seven times
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Speaker 4: before I get the whole show anywhere.
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Speaker 3: Reality TV is hard for me because I deal with
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Speaker 3: so much reality during the day.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that enough for you.
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Speaker 3: I've become a Hallmark Christmas movie watcher because I'm because
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Speaker 3: you want to, like everybody leaves through New York City
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Speaker 3: Steven digit job, you know, to go to go to
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Speaker 3: Vermont and marry the lumberjack. You know. I mean it
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Speaker 3: makes sense, but I think, yes, I do. I do
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Speaker 3: when when people come in and they say, listen, this
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Speaker 3: is what I want to change, and we're in sessions.
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Speaker 3: Now we're on the eighth session and they're they're still
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Speaker 3: not moving forward or taking the advice that they're coming
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Speaker 3: in to seek. It's very frustrating. And then I have
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Speaker 3: the ones that come in and they can't get enough.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, but so let me so, how does like,
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Speaker 4: let's just say somebody is like.
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Speaker 2: Doing drugs or drinking, did you like, just do you.
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Speaker 4: Think that if they maybe the substance of just will
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Speaker 4: take you know, it's a toll on your helping them,
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Speaker 4: and you have to tell them like, hey, you're going
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Speaker 4: to have to recover absolutely, because this is going to
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Speaker 4: hold to you and and you're gonna have to get
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Speaker 4: out of that.
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Speaker 3: Most most of the time, why I did not become
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Speaker 3: an addiction it was not a specialty for me, was
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Speaker 3: because that's such a whole different It is, damn it,
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Speaker 3: and it's very hard because it is a disease, and
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Speaker 3: it's very hard for people to step out of that
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Speaker 3: and then stay on that path and then get the help,
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Speaker 3: you know, emotional and help that they need. So for me,
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Speaker 3: that's not really my wheelhouse. But I have had some
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Speaker 3: come in because the family or friends have forced them
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Speaker 3: to come.
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Speaker 1: And then.
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Speaker 3: You have to want it. You have to want.
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Speaker 4: So you would tell that person, listen, you need to
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Speaker 4: go to the.
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Speaker 2: Rooms or whatever. You have a good recovery every program,
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Speaker 2: and then before you could do.
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Speaker 3: That, take that hat off and then we'll once you.
17:55
Speaker 4: To get into that and get some clean time, then
17:57
Speaker 4: we could talk. Absolutely, So that's great that you do,
18:00
Speaker 4: because it doesn't work.
18:01
Speaker 3: Well, you know you can you can keep them coming
18:04
Speaker 3: in and it's not gonna be and it's not it's
18:06
Speaker 3: not it's not not worth my time and it's not
18:10
Speaker 3: helping them and it's not worth your time or their
18:12
Speaker 3: money because and when you really know they need something different,
18:18
Speaker 3: you have to be honest and tell them listen, I
18:20
Speaker 3: want you to be healthy, but you're not ready for this.
18:23
Speaker 3: So absolutely, who do you have?
18:27
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to say it, but you
18:28
Speaker 4: have like patients You're like, oh my god, I'm so
18:30
Speaker 4: glad that coming in today. So I don't have to
18:32
Speaker 4: listen to this all the one because I can imagine
18:34
Speaker 4: that some people that you just want to probably like
18:37
Speaker 4: commit suicide.
18:38
Speaker 3: Like, let me tell you, there are days, O my god,
18:42
Speaker 3: there are days and it's it's being honest. There are
18:45
Speaker 3: days that I wake up and I'm like who's on
18:47
Speaker 3: the calendar?
18:48
Speaker 2: Do you have to go to a whole session? And
18:50
Speaker 2: I listen to somebody honest.
18:51
Speaker 3: Chris, do you know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking thinking
18:53
Speaker 3: about dinner. What do I gotta do after this? What
18:57
Speaker 3: clothes do I need to know? But listening, I know
19:02
Speaker 3: what clothes need to be in the draw? Did I
19:04
Speaker 3: make the bed, did I blow out the candle? You
19:08
Speaker 3: know who's taking the door? I love it. I you
19:11
Speaker 3: know what this is. It it's all.
19:13
Speaker 2: Real, all human. So we all have that.
19:16
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely you got it. And then I get one
19:19
Speaker 3: that just talk for the full.
19:22
Speaker 4: And you're just and I'm like, this is great and
19:25
Speaker 4: you listen like this is a work storyline.
19:27
Speaker 3: Or I'm taking notes, but I'm really making my shopping list.
19:30
Speaker 2: I love that I have to tell you do what
19:34
Speaker 2: I do? You know?
19:35
Speaker 4: I also I'm also a therapist. I feel like, you know,
19:39
Speaker 4: I become a derapish your hairdresser.
19:41
Speaker 3: Can I make an appointment with you?
19:42
Speaker 2: I would love you.
19:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can do whatever you want to me
19:45
Speaker 3: as long as you listen.
19:46
Speaker 2: And I do listen. It's funny.
19:48
Speaker 4: I'm like I should charge for therapy sessions to but
19:51
Speaker 4: you know what I don't mind it because I guess
19:53
Speaker 4: they feel like they're in a safe place to talk
19:55
Speaker 4: to me and and about.
19:56
Speaker 3: And being safe is so important to people. They want
19:59
Speaker 3: to know that they can speak and they feel sick.
20:02
Speaker 4: I have so much shit that people have told me
20:04
Speaker 4: that I should be I should be murdered for him,
20:06
Speaker 4: because nobody like I have a lot of information about
20:09
Speaker 4: things of the patient I did.
20:10
Speaker 3: I did have one gentleman come in at the beginning,
20:14
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, of of when I just planted myself
20:18
Speaker 3: in this new office, and he had the whole mafia
20:21
Speaker 3: connections and whatever, and he said, I'm going to tell
20:24
Speaker 3: you things, but I'm telling you you can't say anything.
20:28
Speaker 2: And I'm like to analyze this absolutely.
20:31
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm like, as long as I don't
20:33
Speaker 3: go outside my car blows up. I'm like, I will
20:36
Speaker 3: take it to the grave. I'll take it to the grave.
20:39
Speaker 3: You doctor, I know absolutely. And he kept calling me doctor.
20:43
Speaker 3: He's like, listen, doctor, I'm like.
20:45
Speaker 4: You don't call me.
20:48
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to do with me, call me. But
20:50
Speaker 3: I'm on your side. I told him, I'm on your side.
20:55
Speaker 4: But you know what's funny is that is that it's
20:58
Speaker 4: so true. Like when you if you ever watched The Sopranos, that.
21:01
Speaker 2: Was the whole, the whole absolute dialogue.
21:04
Speaker 4: Between doctor Milphi and an Tony soprano. That made the
21:08
Speaker 4: whole show absolute because they humanized him. It showed him
21:11
Speaker 4: at all the different hats. If that's that aspect was
21:14
Speaker 4: not in the show, it would have not been a
21:15
Speaker 4: hit as.
21:16
Speaker 3: It was absolutely so.
21:17
Speaker 4: She her, her and actually the Catherine who does the
21:21
Speaker 4: show made was on the show too. Yeah, you know
21:24
Speaker 4: that whole part of it. It just shows that humanizes
21:28
Speaker 4: humanized him, as you know, because because he was in therapy.
21:31
Speaker 4: And my point was is that you know a lot
21:33
Speaker 4: of men, a lot of wise guys. I mean I was,
21:35
Speaker 4: I was. I live around wise guys my whole life.
21:38
Speaker 4: They would never go to They would never go for recovery,
21:41
Speaker 4: would not go to therapy, won't even go to the doctor.
21:43
Speaker 2: If they had a pain, you.
21:44
Speaker 3: Go to the priest. When my father was young, every time
21:47
Speaker 3: there was a problem, they took you to the priest.
21:49
Speaker 3: And they don't even go to the priest, and the
21:50
Speaker 3: priest gave you, well, there are no priest less it
21:53
Speaker 3: seems like we're looking for priests. But they give him
21:55
Speaker 3: a blessing and they send him home and you know,
21:58
Speaker 3: there you go, or don't talk about it, Yeah, because
22:01
Speaker 3: you can't let the family dynamic go out of the bag.
22:04
Speaker 4: A lot of things were swept under the ropes. So
22:06
Speaker 4: at that point, absolutely a lot.
22:08
Speaker 3: But yeah, but my mother's side was different. We were talkers,
22:12
Speaker 3: you know everything. We didn't keep anything quiet. My father's
22:16
Speaker 3: side was quiet, our side totally. My mother's side totally meshed.
22:20
Speaker 3: Everybody knew. You know, you're paying, what are you doing,
22:23
Speaker 3: I'm paying? What are you doing? Oh I'm you know,
22:25
Speaker 3: changing my tampon or whatever. Sorry guys. But nothing was sacred.
22:30
Speaker 3: So that's why I love to speak. I love I
22:33
Speaker 3: look forward to when I motivate women and I speak
22:37
Speaker 3: because you're right. It humanizes who we are. It's there's
22:41
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with being transparent and saying, you know what,
22:44
Speaker 3: I'm fucked up, I need help. I'm going for help
22:47
Speaker 3: and I'm going to do the best I can.
22:48
Speaker 4: I dig a lot of people, and I think a
22:51
Speaker 4: lot of I mean, I know with me, for the
22:54
Speaker 4: men I have been with in my life, that their
22:58
Speaker 4: pride and maybe I don't know, maybe it's because I
23:01
Speaker 4: attract narcissists, I don't know what it is, or sociopaths.
23:05
Speaker 4: Oh you know, I know myself. I can't fix that that.
23:10
Speaker 4: They're going to have to fix that, you know, for themselves,
23:13
Speaker 4: because those type of people that you're with, they want
23:17
Speaker 4: to push it on you that you owe the problems.
23:19
Speaker 3: That's right.
23:19
Speaker 2: No, I'm reacting to the how you are doing.
23:24
Speaker 4: What you're doing is causing the problem, and I'm just
23:27
Speaker 4: I'm just the product of how I'm reacting is the
23:30
Speaker 4: product of what.
23:31
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Remember your toolbox. I always love to have my
23:35
Speaker 3: own personal toolbox, imaginary toolbox. My tools can only fix me,
23:40
Speaker 3: Your tools can only fix you. And I always say,
23:43
Speaker 3: you don't call a plumber if you have a broken ankle.
23:45
Speaker 3: You don't call an orthopedic surgeon to fix your toilet.
23:48
Speaker 3: And that's that's what happens. But I spent years being
23:52
Speaker 3: affected by relationships and whatever mood they were in, I
23:57
Speaker 3: would take it on and that's just a horrible.
24:02
Speaker 2: Way to feel. Money. Oh my god, I know. My
24:04
Speaker 2: story is I have a story. I go I gotta
24:07
Speaker 2: write a book for what I went through in my life.
24:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it happens, and a lot of times it's
24:12
Speaker 3: because we're we're sensitive and we're caring, and we're.
24:17
Speaker 2: People take advantage of that.
24:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, you turn yourself inside out for people.
24:21
Speaker 4: And then you know when you're not so nice anymore,
24:24
Speaker 4: that oh my god, oh.
24:25
Speaker 2: She's a bit terrible. Yeah.
24:28
Speaker 4: No, no, because I'm telling you about yourself and you
24:31
Speaker 4: don't want to hear it.
24:32
Speaker 3: A narcissist will. I get A lot of women come
24:37
Speaker 3: in and they've been in narcissistic relationships and they will
24:42
Speaker 3: never A narcissist will never say two things, I'm sorry
24:46
Speaker 3: or you know, uh, let me take a let me
24:51
Speaker 3: take a look at myself. They'll never say or they'll
24:54
Speaker 3: never say or thank you. It's all about them, and
24:58
Speaker 3: it's it's so intriguing to me how the mind of
25:01
Speaker 3: a narcissist works. And I've dealt I've dealt with one.
25:05
Speaker 3: I had a really awful relationship with a pastor that
25:10
Speaker 3: was a narcissist.
25:11
Speaker 4: Wow, And probably we're probably more of a sociopath because
25:16
Speaker 4: he was probably full of himself, unbelievable, and then he
25:20
Speaker 4: more offers himself to be like you, to be like, oh,
25:23
Speaker 4: didn't know.
25:24
Speaker 3: What I found interesting is there was almost a jealousy
25:27
Speaker 3: behind because a narcissist want you to line up behind them.
25:31
Speaker 2: Yes.
25:32
Speaker 3: So for me, as I came around the corner.
25:34
Speaker 6: Who no, no, no, And it's and you trust these people,
25:39
Speaker 6: you trust them and you look up to them, and
25:41
Speaker 6: and then you know, just one day I had a feeling,
25:45
Speaker 6: you know what, I don't like what I see.
25:46
Speaker 3: As I gained more wisdom and I was out a
25:49
Speaker 3: little bit more talking with more people, I had to
25:52
Speaker 3: break that. I had to break that relationship because it
25:56
Speaker 3: wasn't healthy for me. I know what works and what doesn't.
25:59
Speaker 3: And narcissists will know how to push your buttons. Oh yeah,
26:02
Speaker 3: and where to find them.
26:03
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know.
26:04
Speaker 4: I don't argument with my narcissus the other day and
26:07
Speaker 4: I wouldn't get on the phone.
26:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, boundaries.
26:10
Speaker 4: I said, I will talk to you. If you're not
26:12
Speaker 4: going to yell at me, you're not going to scream
26:14
Speaker 4: at me.
26:14
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not doing it.
26:16
Speaker 3: But that's good your your your boundaries are in good spot.
26:19
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm not I'm not doing I'm not going
26:22
Speaker 2: down that road with you.
26:23
Speaker 3: You know what. We drive down a dead end road
26:26
Speaker 3: expecting another way out, and it never happens. We keep
26:30
Speaker 3: driving down that same Oh here it is.
26:33
Speaker 4: And all I did was I just wanted to make
26:35
Speaker 4: sure they were okay, and I heard they had an issue,
26:40
Speaker 4: and I saw a friend called them and said I
26:46
Speaker 4: was concerned, flipped out like all the how horrible I
26:53
Speaker 4: am this blah blah blah, the whole nine yards, and
26:57
Speaker 4: then you know, then I'm like okay, And then then
27:01
Speaker 4: it hangs up on them, and then it's calling me
27:05
Speaker 4: the hook and texting me like so if you don't
27:07
Speaker 4: want to talk to me, then why are you're calling
27:08
Speaker 4: me then?
27:09
Speaker 3: Because you're I always say to people, you know what
27:12
Speaker 3: it's like. It's like they want to put us in
27:14
Speaker 3: a high chair. Remember high chairs when our kids are little. Uh,
27:18
Speaker 3: it's like putting us in a high chair, and they
27:19
Speaker 3: want to spoon feed us their ship. And you know what,
27:22
Speaker 3: we can't allow that from anyone, anyone. And as we
27:26
Speaker 3: get older, we recognize what and who we want neural life.
27:31
Speaker 3: And it's not easy.
27:32
Speaker 2: It's not people.
27:33
Speaker 3: People will beg you to get healthy, but then when
27:35
Speaker 3: you do, they don't like you.
27:37
Speaker 2: Yes, that's so, because then you don't like them anymore.
27:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they don't want any It can go
27:44
Speaker 3: both ways because.
27:45
Speaker 4: A lot of people do. Find a lot of people
27:47
Speaker 4: want like caid. It's that they have to. They want
27:50
Speaker 4: somebody who's needy. And then you know, it's like you
27:53
Speaker 4: almost if you see that somebody is really like say somebody,
27:57
Speaker 4: let's just say somebody's recovery. So let's say they almost
28:00
Speaker 4: like the person battle when they're on drugs and drinking
28:02
Speaker 4: because they can they get they like.
28:05
Speaker 3: They can manipulate and manipulate them and a lot of
28:08
Speaker 3: times they feel better about themselves.
28:10
Speaker 2: Feel better about themselves.
28:11
Speaker 3: That person's down and you're right there.
28:14
Speaker 2: They don't want to hear that you're a bad off.
28:16
Speaker 3: You got it right, So yeah, you keep your circle.
28:19
Speaker 2: People are fucked up, sure, yeah they are and fucked up.
28:23
Speaker 3: And and even the younger kids coming in. I mean,
28:26
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't do a lot of children, but
28:29
Speaker 3: a lot of the teenage girls that come in, they're
28:31
Speaker 3: being hit left and right.
28:33
Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy.
28:35
Speaker 4: I can't even believe how bad it is now with
28:39
Speaker 4: everything that's going on, first of all, with women's rights,
28:43
Speaker 4: with this, with that, I mean, everybody's gay now and
28:45
Speaker 4: now and now met have beaten women up now again,
28:48
Speaker 4: like what is happening here?
28:49
Speaker 3: It's insanity, Like I just don't.
28:51
Speaker 4: Even know it's it is, it's it's it's the phone,
28:55
Speaker 4: it's the the the social media, it's what it is.
29:00
Speaker 2: That's the beast.
29:01
Speaker 3: I will tell you more marriages. I'm a marriage therapy.
29:04
Speaker 3: We'll get from there. There are so many relationships and
29:08
Speaker 3: marriages and families that have broken up because of social
29:11
Speaker 3: media because everything is that, you know, you're not happy
29:14
Speaker 3: at home, let me see if you let me, let
29:16
Speaker 3: me see if my fifth grade crush is available, and
29:20
Speaker 3: then they go find him or her and then before
29:23
Speaker 3: you know what, they're leaving for this person and it's unreal.
29:27
Speaker 3: Bring back the pagers or the house phone. Remember that
29:30
Speaker 3: was crazy.
29:32
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
29:33
Speaker 4: It's like you think the grass is always greener on
29:36
Speaker 4: the other side, and it's not.
29:38
Speaker 2: It's not. It's just not. It's just you know what.
29:41
Speaker 4: And as you get older you start to realize that,
29:43
Speaker 4: you start to learn it's I wish that I knew
29:45
Speaker 4: what I knew that then I would have.
29:47
Speaker 2: Ruled the world.
29:48
Speaker 3: That's that's all of our yes, that's all of our wish.
29:51
Speaker 4: By the time you know what, you know everything, you're too,
29:54
Speaker 4: you're to try, you to try.
29:56
Speaker 3: To put you're too tired, and you have.
30:00
Speaker 4: I don't care anymore. Well at this point now I
30:02
Speaker 4: don't even care. When he was all it doesn't mattle
30:04
Speaker 4: like all right, I guess you know. But I think
30:06
Speaker 4: it's because you learn as you get older, and you
30:08
Speaker 4: get more content with yourself as you get older, and
30:10
Speaker 4: you're okay in your own skin.
30:12
Speaker 3: That's that's that's to be fifty eight.
30:16
Speaker 4: Do you feel so comfortable in your skin? I feel
30:19
Speaker 4: so comfortable.
30:21
Speaker 3: But boy, did it take some roller coaster to get
30:24
Speaker 3: you confidently and just making a decision. Like I'm a
30:29
Speaker 3: reactor because you're Italian. I blame it on the Italian.
30:34
Speaker 3: I can't help it. But yeah, I preach. Oh there's
30:37
Speaker 3: two rs. The red R is reacting, the yellow R
30:40
Speaker 3: is responding, Honey, I'm a red I know I am.
30:45
Speaker 3: I mean the other day my father said something to me.
30:49
Speaker 3: I had about four clients. I get home, he brings
30:51
Speaker 3: me a piece of mail that he doesn't understand, and like,
30:55
Speaker 3: I'm like, can you just give me a minute? And
30:57
Speaker 3: I mean, I love him, but give me a minute
31:00
Speaker 3: to put my head in the freezer. And but I'm
31:03
Speaker 3: a reactor, and I know that about myself. And this
31:08
Speaker 3: is what I try to tell people. We're whatever you are,
31:13
Speaker 3: embrace it, whatever you are. You don't have to be
31:16
Speaker 3: loving and sweet and kind and joyful every second. That's
31:19
Speaker 3: not even realistic. You can react and get angry, and
31:23
Speaker 3: you can be disgusted, and you can feel all these emotions,
31:26
Speaker 3: but yet you still can be okay with you know
31:29
Speaker 3: who you are.
31:30
Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, know who you are.
31:32
Speaker 3: I have women make lists and they put out in
31:34
Speaker 3: the refrigerator and they're like, you know this about me,
31:37
Speaker 3: you know that about me, and you know what, that's okay.
31:41
Speaker 3: We don't have to be shamed into feeling like, well
31:44
Speaker 3: today I wasn't very kind. I gave the cab driver
31:47
Speaker 3: you know, the finger, or I was pissed at some
31:50
Speaker 3: woman hit me with the car in the supermarket. It's
31:53
Speaker 3: okay to react. Yeah, I mean, we have it for
31:56
Speaker 3: a reason.
31:57
Speaker 2: So emotional mental anyway.
32:01
Speaker 3: Oh man, I love that come in that want therapy.
32:05
Speaker 3: You know what they'll say to me, Jamie, do you
32:07
Speaker 3: do you have the six week package? Because I should
32:10
Speaker 3: be well, I should be fine in six weeks. And
32:14
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we'll g if it six weeks cause I.
32:17
Speaker 2: Tell you something. Are you the type of therapists will
32:19
Speaker 2: tell me what you think?
32:21
Speaker 1: Uh?
32:21
Speaker 3: No?
32:21
Speaker 2: Do you?
32:22
Speaker 4: Because I because I'm telling you I I want my
32:25
Speaker 4: money back from white therapists because you know, I know
32:28
Speaker 4: I'm here to tell.
32:29
Speaker 2: Me what you think. I don't I already know what
32:31
Speaker 2: I think. I want to know what you think.
32:33
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in what they think because I know
32:37
Speaker 3: if you're thinking that way, you shouldn't be in here.
32:39
Speaker 1: Right.
32:39
Speaker 4: But you're not telling, you're not asking because because that
32:42
Speaker 4: drives me not to like I got scammed.
32:44
Speaker 3: No, you're gonna hear me.
32:46
Speaker 4: But good, because then I'm gonna come to you because
32:49
Speaker 4: you are an arapist who could talk to me because
32:51
Speaker 4: I I hate that.
32:53
Speaker 3: Yes, why do they do that?
32:55
Speaker 2: Because again they don't know what to say. I mean,
32:59
Speaker 2: I'm here for you to help me and give me
33:01
Speaker 2: some kind of.
33:03
Speaker 3: Something, give me something.
33:04
Speaker 2: I'm not here. It's just a talk. I'm giving me
33:06
Speaker 2: some kind of.
33:08
Speaker 3: The motivating part in me because that's why you're coming
33:12
Speaker 3: to me. You need to. I will listen with my
33:15
Speaker 3: little ears, but I also have a big mouth. Good
33:18
Speaker 3: but for me, you're in here and I'm going to
33:22
Speaker 3: tell you. I'm going to tell you.
33:25
Speaker 4: Are you're coming in for my advice, I'm gonna get
33:27
Speaker 4: you and you're gonna get it, or what I see
33:29
Speaker 4: as an outsider, look absolutely, you know, as a as
33:32
Speaker 4: a nonpartisan, bipartisan.
33:35
Speaker 3: And I've been to my fair share of therapist that
33:37
Speaker 3: sit there and look at me and I'm like, well,
33:40
Speaker 3: do you have a pulse or here's my insurance.
33:43
Speaker 2: Car on Maddie, I know, and it's so no.
33:46
Speaker 3: I am. I am a very interactive therapistes.
33:49
Speaker 2: Okay, I love that. So you're a good therapy.
33:51
Speaker 3: I don't know how else to be.
33:53
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, every therapist should be like that.
33:56
Speaker 4: Because I told I'm told you all my money back,
33:58
Speaker 4: I'm like, really, yeah. I was laughing because my friend
34:01
Speaker 4: we were at this this this event in Florida for
34:04
Speaker 4: Powell Magazine in Long Island, and this just woman she's
34:07
Speaker 4: a therapist too, and.
34:08
Speaker 2: Actually no she's not.
34:09
Speaker 4: She's a motivational speaker, and she said something that was
34:13
Speaker 4: so profound. I said, honestly, I'm gonna get my money
34:16
Speaker 4: back from my from my therapist, because in five minutes
34:19
Speaker 4: you just recapped everything I needed to hear absolutely. I go, seriously,
34:22
Speaker 4: I go, how come I took me ten years from
34:24
Speaker 4: therapy to freaking figure the shit out? You just you
34:26
Speaker 4: just completely wrapped up things and a babble gave it
34:29
Speaker 4: to me because it's like you just feel like you
34:31
Speaker 4: want you know, what is it really about?
34:34
Speaker 2: What's therapy?
34:35
Speaker 4: And I think the therapy is you have to build
34:37
Speaker 4: right your therapy. You're a physical therapist. You're building Savannah russels,
34:41
Speaker 4: You're building somebody's bones. You're helping them build that up.
34:44
Speaker 4: So what therapists needs to build up your minds and
34:46
Speaker 4: your and your soul and your emotions and everything else. Absolutely,
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Speaker 4: because that's what they that's what you're doing. You're building
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Speaker 4: your helping build your helping build yourself about and bring
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Speaker 4: you up to a level of semilance the way you
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Speaker 4: feel good about yourself. Absolutely, Bill, give you that perspective
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Speaker 4: that you need.
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Speaker 3: And the way I will say to them is, well,
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Speaker 3: in the in the great words of doctor Phil when
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Speaker 3: they're well I did this, and I did that, and
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Speaker 3: I I I And I'll say to them, well, in
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Speaker 3: his great words, how's that working for you?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 3: Obviously it's not. So let's wipe out the house and
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Speaker 3: let's build on a good solid foundation and that foundation
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Speaker 3: is you. And yeah, I'm not interested in hearing their version.
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Speaker 3: I know that, but I want them to listen to
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Speaker 3: me and where I get my authoritative information.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that you have that that you know?
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Speaker 2: Do you ever feel sometimes like who am why to
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Speaker 2: tell somebody what they need to heal? Whatever? Never, I
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Speaker 2: love the confidence. Never, I love it.
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Speaker 3: I again, I'm blessed. I feel like this is a
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Speaker 3: calling for me. When I'm motivation, will speak. I have
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Speaker 3: big goals. I want to take over the whole audience
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Speaker 3: on these talk shows and say, listen, they put comedians
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Speaker 3: out there. You don't need to laugh, you need to
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Speaker 3: be motivated. Let's take a moment. But absolutely not. No,
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Speaker 3: I know what I need to do and I'm going
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Speaker 3: to get in there and do it.
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Speaker 2: So I love it.
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Speaker 4: So tell everybody where they can find you. And you
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Speaker 4: know what's coming.
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Speaker 2: Up next to you?
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Speaker 3: Well, social media right now is being our good friend.
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Speaker 3: Michelle shout out Michelle Baron. Michelle is right now. Her
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Speaker 3: team is working on my social media. So I do
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Speaker 3: have my website coming up, which is going to be
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Speaker 3: your Emotional Beauty dot com. Love it and I will
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Speaker 3: be on Instagram, I will be on Facebook, I will
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Speaker 3: be on TikTok and you will be seeing me do
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Speaker 3: a lot of pop up motivating quotes and just moving forward.
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Speaker 3: I I I have to connect with Dolores. I need
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Speaker 3: her to wear my shirt and you to wear my hairs.
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Speaker 3: That says I am an emotional beauty.
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Speaker 2: I would love to wear and.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna order those shirts and I'll get And I'm
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Speaker 3: not only beautiful, She's an emotion of beauty and she
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Speaker 3: Absolutely we love our outsides, but we love got to
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Speaker 3: love our insol We do.
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna tell you when you when you look
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Speaker 4: good outside, you do feel better.
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Speaker 2: Even though it sounds pretty show.
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Speaker 3: It's not shalloe. We got.
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Speaker 2: It's a way.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you. I I am integrated to tell
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Speaker 3: women to do that.
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Speaker 2: Go get ahead, go because she nails done.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, make a nice massage, facial, get those slashes. Do
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Speaker 3: what you have to do.
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Speaker 2: You need to connect because it's part of you.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, if you feel the outer beauty, you're gonna feel
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Speaker 4: the inner beauty.
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Speaker 3: And let me tell you, if I give it. If
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Speaker 3: I didn't believe in outer beauty, I would have rolled
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Speaker 3: out of bed and not have my makeup girl come
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Speaker 3: at seven o'clock in the morning till I know. But
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Speaker 3: it's wonderful.
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Speaker 4: And I look forwardeous absolutely, but I'm totally on board
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Speaker 4: with you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. But hopefully I'm going to get
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Speaker 3: some motivational speaking engagements done, get my website and my
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Speaker 3: social up and coming, and maybe come back and visit.
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Speaker 2: I would love to and I'd love to have you back.
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Speaker 3: You are wonderful.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Jamie for coming on. And if
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Speaker 4: you are in the market for old school Italian cafe
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Speaker 4: right in the heart of Queens Ridge with Queens try
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Speaker 4: my favorite.
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Speaker 2: Place, Dolce Being Cafe.
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Speaker 2: They are the best.
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Speaker 4: So everybody have a great day.