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Speaker 1: Peter Krandler live on Skyins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Chris, good evening, Welcome to the show. Here's what's
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Speaker 2: coming up tonight. The latest GDP figures out today confirming
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Speaker 2: the reality of cost of living pain as Australia's economy
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Speaker 2: struggles to grow and in per capita terms we're now
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Speaker 2: in a deep recession. Tanya Plevice again under pressure as
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Speaker 2: another nebulous heritage Aboriginal claim has been launched against a
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Speaker 2: prospective mind, this time in South Australia.
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Speaker 3: I'll have more to say on that in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Plus, with one eye clearly on the Loving election, Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton has intervened to fix the mess that is the
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Speaker 2: new South Wales Liberals, but he's also had some tough
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Speaker 2: words for the Liberal Party in Victoria too, as they
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Speaker 2: think labor light and down in Victoria wins elections. Well
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Speaker 2: it doesn't, and Darton today made that clear. I'll play
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Speaker 2: you exactly what he said tonight. And despite today's anemic
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Speaker 2: growth numbers, the costs run the Prime Minister's office is
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Speaker 2: the highest ever. Millions in staff travel almost ten million
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Speaker 2: in their salaries and that's of course before we factor
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Speaker 2: in the two mansions, the housekeepers, the cleaners.
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Speaker 3: The guards, the chauffeurs.
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Speaker 2: When asked why he spends so much more than any
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Speaker 2: other prime minister, while mister Albanezi, lot's a little cranking.
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Speaker 4: If they think that the Prime Minister of Australia should
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Speaker 4: drive themselves around, they should say that I'd rather do that. Frankly,
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Speaker 4: to be honest, I'd rather do that.
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Speaker 3: I'm not very happy.
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Speaker 2: We'll come back to that one, but first, today's slow
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Speaker 2: growth numbers a very anemic point two percent of growth
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Speaker 2: over the last quarter. So that's the three months until June,
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Speaker 2: which COVID aside is the worst result since Keating's recession
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Speaker 2: of nineteen nineties, and it goes to show just how
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Speaker 2: important it is to get the economic fundamentals right. While
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Speaker 2: the government will breathe a sigh of reef even at
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Speaker 2: this barely positive number, we've now had six quarters of
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Speaker 2: negative growth per person, meaning that's a long recession for individuals,
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Speaker 2: which is why all of us feel poorer.
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Speaker 3: Even with the.
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Speaker 2: Economy's tempered growth, those growth numbers are hitting households, and
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Speaker 2: with things this precarious, of course, this means that we
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Speaker 2: must avoid the kind of economic self harm that's become
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Speaker 2: routine from the Albanese government. Self harm we will get
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Speaker 2: more of if today's headlines are right. The Australian reports
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Speaker 2: an environment Minnesotania Plevasyk might pull the same stunt with
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Speaker 2: a new mine in South Australia that she is effectively
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Speaker 2: just used to kibosh a one billion dollar gold mine
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Speaker 2: and a thousand jobs in New South Wales, namely, find
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Speaker 2: some obscure indigenous group with an impossible to verify easily
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Speaker 2: subjectival secret claim about cultural bits business that enables her
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Speaker 2: then to block the project under Section ten of the
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Speaker 2: Aboriginal Heritage Act. This is the green movement's later scam
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Speaker 2: to send us all into poverty, Wait until all the
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Speaker 2: environmental approvals are finally secured, then use a dubious indigenous
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Speaker 2: claim to stop the big projects we need to maintain
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Speaker 2: our standard of living. Honestly, there's no mine, no factory,
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Speaker 2: no development that these green fanatics don't want to stop.
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Speaker 2: They are masters at using constant lawfare and all the
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Speaker 2: rules to exploit to send us back to the stone Age.
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Speaker 2: Now most of the time it's how they report they're
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Speaker 2: using taxpayer funds to do it all as well. We
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Speaker 2: learned today that two members of the Kukartha Aboriginal Corporation
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Speaker 2: have reportedly lodged a Section ten application across the whole
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Speaker 2: of Lake Torrens, which is a large salt lake at
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Speaker 2: the west of the Flinders Rangers in South Australia. If
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Speaker 2: this application gets up, it will stop drilling by a
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Speaker 2: company called Orpheus Uranium, which otherwise has all the environmental
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Speaker 2: approvals needed for its MRDY project. It says this project,
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Speaker 2: if it goes ahead, has the potential to.
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Speaker 3: Be another Olympic Dam.
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Speaker 2: Major copper, gold and uranium deposits are in Link Torrens.
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Speaker 2: Apparently a recommendation has been made that pleversg ban further
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Speaker 2: work now, perhaps as a result of the uproar over
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Speaker 2: the recent gold mine. Her office has said that this
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Speaker 2: recommendation is only one factor that the Minister will consider,
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Speaker 2: but there are reportedly ten similar Indigenous heritage applications sitting
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Speaker 2: on PLEVERSX disc Granting any of them, given the whole
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Speaker 2: debarcle with that gold mine, would massively add to the
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Speaker 2: sovereign risk of doing business in Australia, and it would
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Speaker 2: effectively seek that our days as a resource superpower are
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Speaker 2: over unless, of course, the resource in question is.
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Speaker 3: Needed to make batteries.
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Speaker 2: These are the only projects with any hope of approval,
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Speaker 2: ones that pander to the government's emissions obsession. In that case, well,
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Speaker 2: the rules are short lived, are short circuited, and massive
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Speaker 2: and disruptive projects simply get waved through, like the fast
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Speaker 2: tracked plan to install hundreds of shipping container sized batteries
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Speaker 2: in the shadow of the Yu Yangs near Geelong. That's
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Speaker 2: rightly outraged local landowner, wool grower and media personality for
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Speaker 2: Trina round Tree on the program last night.
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Speaker 5: What this property currently has is a bush fire overlay
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Speaker 5: and these are all the different fires that date back
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Speaker 5: to nineteen forty three. You could write a book on
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Speaker 5: all the fires that have started on this farm in
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Speaker 5: this area. It also has a vegetation protection area. It's
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Speaker 5: in a farm zone. The state government themselves placed a
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Speaker 5: significant landscape overlay on this very region because half a
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Speaker 5: million tourists who visit the Yu Yangs will be looking
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Speaker 5: straight down onto.
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Speaker 3: This very property. And just to top it off.
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Speaker 5: There is also an Aboriginal cultural Heritage sensitive area on
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Speaker 5: this very farm.
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Speaker 2: If we to flourish is a nation environmental and heritage
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Speaker 2: turtles can't be unreasonable and they've also got to be
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Speaker 2: applied with our double standards like that. Meanwhile, perhaps to
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Speaker 2: distract from all she's doing to make us poor, lemusay
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Speaker 2: because today released a plan and spent sixty million dollars
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Speaker 2: combating federal cats, including by imposing limits on domestic cats
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Speaker 2: and enforcing cat owners to keep their pets indoors at night.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm a dog fan, I'm not a cat fan,
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Speaker 2: but honestly a curfew on cat is now a top
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Speaker 2: order priority for the Federal government given all the other
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Speaker 2: issues we face as a country.
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister can't.
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Speaker 2: Tell us, still won't tell us if Harmas sympathizes passed
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Speaker 2: the character tests to get visas to Australia. Be once
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Speaker 2: your cat in bed at nine o'clock. Honestly, you can't
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Speaker 2: make this stuff up. Yesterday you saw Peter Dutton moving
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Speaker 2: decisively to clean out the dysfunction or New South Wales
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party which cos Tony had a win in twenty
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Speaker 2: ten and which was threatening to saber charge a much
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Speaker 2: needed change of governing Canberra next year. What happens is
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Speaker 2: that the New South Wales Liberals have been put into administration.
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Speaker 2: The Executive has been sacked and a new three person
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Speaker 2: committee has been appointed to administer the state division. This
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Speaker 2: is to ensure we get candidates out in the field
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Speaker 2: as swiftly as possible campaigning to change the government whenever
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister sends.
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Speaker 3: Us to the polls.
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Speaker 2: To sit on this new committee of management, the National
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Speaker 2: Executive has appointed two former federal presidents, Richard Alston, a
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Speaker 2: former Howard era cabinet minister, Alan Stogdale, a former State
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Speaker 2: Treasurer under Jeff Kennedy Victoria, plus another person nominated by
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Speaker 2: the state Liberal leader Mark Speakman.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 2: Speakerman's nominee was former State Minister Rob Stokes, but it
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Speaker 2: would appear Stokes was named without first securing his agreement.
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Speaker 7: He indicated to me a happiness to serve. I conveyed
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Speaker 7: that to federal identities there was off the record and
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Speaker 7: I thought private discussions about other possibilities, but I had
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Speaker 7: no knowledge that his name was going to be put
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Speaker 7: forward to a Federal executive meeting.
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Speaker 2: We can all see why I take abs necessary. And
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Speaker 2: while the left faction that's dominated the New South Wales
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Speaker 2: Party for so long isn't happy the rank and file
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Speaker 2: members that are contacting me think that this is their
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Speaker 2: best chance to win the factional stitch ups and restore
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Speaker 2: internal democracy. It's also yet another show of leadership from
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Speaker 2: Peter Dartan. First he showed what he's against by opposing
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Speaker 2: the Voice, Then he showed us what he's for by
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Speaker 2: supporting nuclear power. Now he's changing what he can by
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Speaker 2: reforming the New South Wales Liberal Party. In a podcast
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Speaker 2: interview with Victorian radio veteran Neil Mitchell, Peter Dutton too
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Speaker 2: had some words of advice for Liberals in Victoria, including
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Speaker 2: in battled leader John Perzzuto.
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Speaker 8: The Victorian Liberal Party should be ten points ahead of
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Speaker 8: what is a shocking government here in Victoria at the moment.
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Speaker 8: I think there are structural issues. I think, as we've
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Speaker 8: proven at a federal level, there's no sense being just
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Speaker 8: a lighter version of Labor. I think you need to
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Speaker 8: take policy differences. I think you need to show that
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Speaker 8: you would take the state in a different but better direction.
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Speaker 2: Weak types might like Dutton's frank assessments, but let me
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Speaker 2: tell you Liberals supporters out there are saying hallelujah, Finally
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Speaker 2: they feel there's some fight in the Liberal brand. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's head to Caroon now for tonight's headlines. Scyny's political
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Speaker 2: reporter Trudy.
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Speaker 9: Macintosh Australia's economy is a heartbeat away from recession. Growth
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Speaker 9: for the June Courter zero point two percent one percent.
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Speaker 3: Over the year.
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Speaker 9: It's the weakest GDP result outside the pandemic since the
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Speaker 9: nineteen nineties recession.
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Speaker 10: This is the inevitable consequence of global economic uncertainty, persistent
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Speaker 10: but moderating inflation and higher interest rates.
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Speaker 9: Olds are cutting back, spending less on going out for
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Speaker 9: dinner or taking transport. Australians did spend more, though on
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Speaker 9: household furniture.
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Speaker 10: As they crack open the piggybank savings have almost disappeared
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Speaker 10: for Australian families.
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Speaker 9: There's one thing keeping Australia out of recession for now.
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Speaker 10: Without growth in government spending, there'd be no growth in
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Speaker 10: our economy at all.
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Speaker 9: The Reserve Bank has previously worn though, that government spending
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Speaker 9: state and federal is prolonging the fight to lower inflation.
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Speaker 8: When the Reserve Bank governor gives some advice as to
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Speaker 8: how we could get inflation down, she gets abused by
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Speaker 8: Treasurer Jim Chalmers.
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Speaker 10: We need to strike the right balance, and we are.
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Speaker 9: Today was day four of the Prime Minister's tour of
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Speaker 9: the West, announcing nurse Trish Cook as Labour's candidate for
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Speaker 9: the new seat of Bullwinkle.
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Speaker 4: And what's better than having a nurse representa seat called Bullwinkle?
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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton, by contrast with a familiar face campaigning with
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Speaker 9: former MP Nicole Flint in the South Australian Labour seat
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Speaker 9: of Boothby.
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Speaker 2: Well, yesterday we brought you the decision by the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party's federal executive to sack the new South Wales Party's
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Speaker 2: executive put in place that committee of management. They'll run
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Speaker 2: the division for the next ten months and the lead.
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Speaker 3: Up to the federal election.
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Speaker 2: Richard Alson, of course I mentioned him before Alan Stockdale.
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Speaker 2: And the third name, well, it was meant to be
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Speaker 2: mister Stokes, Rob Stokes, but he is not joining the panel.
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Speaker 2: So who will it be. Well, we'll get into that now.
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Speaker 2: Sky News senior reporter Trudy mcintoze joins me and Carolyn Marcus.
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Speaker 3: Ladies.
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Speaker 2: Not a good star treaty for the Libs today. I
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Speaker 2: made the point though, it's just underscores why they needed
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Speaker 2: at a federal level.
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Speaker 3: This intervention.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, looking on from Canberra, what an absolute mess and
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Speaker 9: trying to figure out how they stuffed this up last night.
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Speaker 3: It's quite confusing.
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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton saying he was told by New South Wales
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Speaker 9: Rob Stokes was going to be fine. Mark Speakman today saying, oh,
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Speaker 9: he'd had an informal conversation but it hadn't been locked in.
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Speaker 9: And Rob Stokes apparently was in New Zealand and the
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Speaker 9: first he heard of it, he says, was reading it
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Speaker 9: in the paper.
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Speaker 3: It's just a debarcle.
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Speaker 9: I heard Mark Speakman today saying he didn't think voters
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Speaker 9: will care about, you know, the machinations of the Liberal division.
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Speaker 9: Maybe that's true, but the broader optics of what do
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Speaker 9: they say, If you can't govern yourself, you can't govern
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Speaker 9: the country.
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Speaker 3: I just think that brings a bit true.
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Speaker 9: It just looks so messy that you can't file paperwork
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Speaker 9: and you can't figure out which three people could run
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Speaker 9: a branch for you.
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Speaker 2: I think certainly I've got faith in Richard Olson, and
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Speaker 2: I used to work for Richard Alston, and I've seen
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Speaker 2: Allen Stockdale at close quarter as he takes no prisoners.
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Speaker 2: They are two good picks. The third will be the challenge.
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Speaker 2: Speakman today said he now wants a woman now that
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Speaker 2: Stokes has fallen over. Someone in the papers today was
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Speaker 2: saying that the panels too much about Victoria and it's pale,
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Speaker 2: male and stale.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'll tell what.
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Speaker 2: I'd be more focused on competence rather than gender and
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Speaker 2: skin color. But they're sounding out other names, Caroline. Do
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Speaker 2: we know who's in the mix?
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Speaker 11: Not yet, Peter, but I have heard Bronwood Bishop, the
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Speaker 11: former Speaker of the House, and of course our own
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Speaker 11: contributor here at Sky News her name being thrown about.
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Speaker 11: But I understand that she has not yet been approached
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Speaker 11: directly and it's highly unlikely that she would put her
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Speaker 11: hand up for this. Well, there's no doubts about Bronwood's competence.
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Speaker 11: I don't think she would want to be someone who's
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Speaker 11: seen as a token woman on any panel.
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Speaker 3: And you know, for me.
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Speaker 11: Personally, if I was a politician in the running, I
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Speaker 11: would hate to be seen as any kind of diversity pick.
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Speaker 11: After the opposition leader's comments about wanting a woman, I
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Speaker 11: can understand why they do it, because the Liberal Party
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Speaker 11: has come under so much criticism for not having enough women,
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Speaker 11: But I just don't think any woman would who is
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Speaker 11: wise enough would want to perhaps put their hands hands
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Speaker 11: up to be anyone's diversity pick. However, I do agree
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Speaker 11: with Margaret Thatcher that if you want something said, ask
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Speaker 11: a man, but if you want something done, ask a woman.
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Speaker 3: So if someone is.
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Speaker 11: Going to clear up the news up wealth Liberal Party,
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Speaker 11: maybe it does have to be a woman.
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Speaker 2: Just hope they pick someone who knows how to win
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Speaker 2: an election, because that's been the problem there for some time. Okay,
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Speaker 2: we know Labour loves to splash around the cash. We
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Speaker 2: saw that in those GDP numbers. A lot of it's
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Speaker 2: driven by the spending in Canberra by labor and a
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Speaker 2: lot of these state labor governments. I'll get to that
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Speaker 2: in a moment with Terry mccran. But the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: today this is extraordinary. He's wrapped up nearly four million
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Speaker 2: dollars in expenses over the last financial year just to
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Speaker 2: run his office. Now, this is travel for his staff
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Speaker 2: two and a half million dollars. I have never seen
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Speaker 2: staff travel that high. They should be on the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister's private plane. They're already paying for that plane. Whether
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Speaker 2: the seats are full. They shouldn't be on a Quantius flight.
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Speaker 2: Nine hundred thousand for his own international travel, two hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand for printing. That's about one hundred thousand concrs.
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Speaker 2: He's got a security detail that's about fair. It doesn't
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Speaker 2: include his personal salary that's six hundred thousand. But listen
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Speaker 2: to this, Trudy. Here's a staff bill. His wages bill
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Speaker 2: is about ten million dollars. He's got sixty one staff.
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Speaker 2: That's more than red Hat and Gillard had, and Avid
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Speaker 2: had and more. And this is nothing at all here
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Speaker 2: in terms of the costs to run the lodge, Curabilly
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Speaker 2: and all that other expenditure. Fourteen and a half million
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Speaker 2: dollars is the estimate to run Albanese's office for just
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Speaker 2: one year.
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Speaker 9: These expensive stories come and go, don't you. We've both
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Speaker 9: seen them a lot in our time covering politics.
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Speaker 3: So it never looks good.
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Speaker 9: This number splashed on the front page of a tabloid paper.
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Speaker 9: If you're an average punter, you look at that number
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Speaker 9: and you go, geez.
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Speaker 6: That's very high.
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Speaker 9: And it's a particularly notable story in the middle of
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Speaker 9: a cost of living crisis. I thought the prime Minister's
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Speaker 9: antrest today was interesting to not get into the weeds
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Speaker 9: of some of it, but just say, what do you do?
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Speaker 3: What do you want me to do?
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Speaker 9: Not go on my com car with my security driver
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Speaker 9: and pivoting back to that he'd much prefer to drive.
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Speaker 9: He also likes to point out Peter he wants to
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Speaker 9: go to the shops, and he goes to the shops
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Speaker 9: quite a lot, so he doesn't want to be seen
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Speaker 9: as out of touch our prime minister.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I also know truly how it works.
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Speaker 2: I know his housekeeper buys his deodorant and the milk
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Speaker 2: in his fridge, whether he's at the lodge or whether
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Speaker 2: he's at Kirabilly house. Most people tonight don't know all
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Speaker 2: of that detail. And I, as I said, haven't seen
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Speaker 2: staff salaries at high. I haven't seen staff travel that high.
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Speaker 2: I mean I used to try and tell people if
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Speaker 2: it's a short flight, I don't care if you're entitled
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Speaker 2: to a business class seat, please try and fly economy.
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Speaker 2: And if the boss is taking the jet, get on
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Speaker 2: the jet. The jets already paid for us, and said,
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Speaker 2: whether it's full, whether it's empty, save the taxpayers some money.
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Speaker 2: And that's what's not happening up in Queensland? Stephen Miles
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Speaker 2: up there the Queensland Premier. He was under fire today, Caroline.
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Speaker 2: He took an eleven minute flight from Harvey Bay to
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Speaker 2: Bundenberg on his government jet. He celebrated while he was
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Speaker 2: there at MP's birthday. He announced a new fence. It
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Speaker 2: must be a fancy fence today he tried to defend himself.
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Speaker 3: Good luck with that. Have a listen.
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Speaker 12: It might be easy fighter for tablaid newspapers, but it
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Speaker 12: would have cost more to hire a car for that
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Speaker 12: one leg, and the other legs could not be completed
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Speaker 12: by another transport mode.
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Speaker 2: A blow, was a clown and he's gone an election
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Speaker 2: next month.
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Speaker 3: Where's his brain? Caroline?
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Speaker 11: None of this passes the puff test. Peter does it
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Speaker 11: as we like to say. I mean that would have
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Speaker 11: been a one hour twenty trip by road, and he
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Speaker 11: claims that it didn't cost any extra because the government
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Speaker 11: had already leased the plane. Find that a little bit
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Speaker 11: hard to believe. But even if that's the case, what
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Speaker 11: about the carbon emission that they both claims that it
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Speaker 11: cares so deeply about. And then he has the poor
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Speaker 11: judgment to post photographs of himself that you just showed
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Speaker 11: celebrating one of his MP's birthdays with a couple of cakes,
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Speaker 11: as if voters really care that we're all dealing with
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Speaker 11: the cost of living crisis. Does he really think that
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Speaker 11: this kind of rubbish is going to help get his
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Speaker 11: government elected again honestly at the next election in wond
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Speaker 11: And it's not the first time that he's come under
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Speaker 11: five for this kind of thing. You remember a bit
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Speaker 11: earlier this year he and the police commissioner took a
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Speaker 11: couple of jets for five days for trips between zipping
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Speaker 11: round Brisbane and regional Queensland, to the tune of almost
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Speaker 11: one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. So he has form
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Speaker 11: on this the school fans. It must have certainly been fancy.
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Speaker 11: They didn't even do a press announcement of it, so
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Speaker 11: we don't really know.
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Speaker 3: And that fence will only be.
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Speaker 11: Built if his government is reelected, and at this rate,
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Speaker 11: you've got to say it probably won't happen.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to that story in the City Morning held
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Speaker 2: treaty because I thought it was very interesting. Three sources
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Speaker 2: have expressed frustration and briefed out detail of the cabinet discussion.
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Speaker 2: This was all around the issue of the census, and
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Speaker 2: according to the report, the PM was the one who
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Speaker 2: kiboshed the questions about sexual orientation and gender status. Now
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Speaker 2: what's interesting here it was the PM then later on
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Speaker 2: who had to do the backflip. But also I think
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Speaker 2: this is the first significant time we've seen a leak
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Speaker 2: from Labour's cabinet, isn't it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was very surprised to see three cabinet ministers
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Speaker 9: apparently speaking to the nine newspapers this morning on this issue,
20:50
Speaker 9: speaking about what the Prime Minister had said and his
20:53
Speaker 9: level of frustration inside cabinet. The whole census issue to
20:57
Speaker 9: me last week was emblematic of two big ishes that
21:00
Speaker 9: are facing this government at the moment. One is their
21:03
Speaker 9: inability to nip an issue in the butt. It dragged
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Speaker 9: from Sunday to Friday before the Prime Minister then confirmed
21:09
Speaker 9: the government's position, all the while three of his cabinet
21:12
Speaker 9: ministers had said the opposite thing. But also that Labor
21:15
Speaker 9: essentially is jumping at shadows that it was too afraid
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Speaker 9: to even have a debate about this, according to its ministers,
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Speaker 9: publicly on an issue that it says it believes in
21:24
Speaker 9: so two really big issues to me being raised about
21:27
Speaker 9: what does this government believe in if it's in power,
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Speaker 9: what's it there to do. That's becoming, you know, there's
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Speaker 9: increasing frustrations you detect when you speak to labor people
21:35
Speaker 9: here about how this government's tracking.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly, Caroline, you broke a story today about really
21:43
Speaker 2: dodgy data to justify bike lanes in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 11: So Clovernlow, who's the Lord Mayor here in Sydney, and
21:55
Speaker 11: she is a very progressive figure. She and the City
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Speaker 11: of Sydney Council have said that between about thirty two
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Speaker 11: hundred bike riders use this particular street, Oxford Street, really
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Speaker 11: famous shopping strip in near the CBD in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Every day.
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Speaker 11: Now, business owners were really skeptical of this because she's
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Speaker 11: trying to get a cycle way built here, which they
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Speaker 11: say is going to be catastrophic for their businesses with
22:22
Speaker 11: all the construction that's happening. So they organize their own
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Speaker 11: twenty four hour bike count and lo and behold, it
22:30
Speaker 11: found that there were only about three hundred and five
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Speaker 11: bike riders, not thirty two hundred, so about ten percent
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Speaker 11: of that figure that used it used that road in
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Speaker 11: the last.
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Speaker 3: Twenty four hours.
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Speaker 11: So the figures appear to be massively inflated, and it's
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Speaker 11: been used to push, of course, this green agenda that's
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Speaker 11: been supported by the Federal Teal MP a leg respender.
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Speaker 11: Here is what some of those business owners and residents
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Speaker 11: to tell us today.
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Speaker 13: People of Paddington and the store and is aren't against cycling.
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Speaker 13: We're just against stupidity.
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Speaker 14: We lost seventy percent of the business has completely gone
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Speaker 14: once they move, so I probably will be one of them.
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Speaker 3: It's terribly disappointing.
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Speaker 6: I mean really disappointing.
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Speaker 15: It's now my way or the highway.
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Speaker 2: This is fraud. It's absolute fraud. It's what's happening in
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Speaker 2: other states. It's certainly happening in Victoria. It's ruining the
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Speaker 2: Melbourne CBD, and now it's working its way through everywhere
23:28
Speaker 2: else in Sydney and watch out, Brisbane is coming your
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Speaker 2: way too. Thanks ladies, I'll catch up with you both
23:33
Speaker 2: next week. All right, we'll stay on that biplaim issue.
23:35
Speaker 2: But right now I want to go to those GDP
23:37
Speaker 2: figures out today the show our economy barely grew in
23:40
Speaker 2: the June quarter, expanding by just zero point two percent,
23:44
Speaker 2: and on an annual basis, that's a very anemic growth
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Speaker 2: of just one percent now four perspective, outside of the
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Speaker 2: COVID era, this is the slowest rate of growth that
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Speaker 2: we've seen since the early nineteen nineties recession. It's now
23:58
Speaker 2: also the sixth core of negative growth I meaning we're
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Speaker 2: deep in a per capita recession, so that is a
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Speaker 2: recession a head of population joining me now to get
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Speaker 2: his analysis, business commentator Terry mccran. Well, we're told these numbers, Terry,
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Speaker 2: we're in line with market expectations. But they're certainly not
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Speaker 2: good figures, are they, Peter.
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Speaker 1: These figures, these dreadful figures, these awful figures, and more importantly,
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Speaker 1: the reality for people, real people out there, consumers, households, businesses.
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Speaker 1: These figures are not the direct inevitable consequence of world uncertainty,
24:36
Speaker 1: global uncertainty, as the Treasurer claimed. They are the direct
24:40
Speaker 1: consequence of the government's economic policies. The energy policies destroy
24:45
Speaker 1: our energy systems, sending energy prices soaring and feeding into inflation,
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Speaker 1: hurting not any consumers but businesses. What Tony Burk has
24:55
Speaker 1: been doing with industrial relations, making life so much tougher
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Speaker 1: for business to operate, for businesses to be able to
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Speaker 1: stay alive. What's the massive out of control immigration which
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Speaker 1: has set rent sawy and set the cost of housing sowing.
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Speaker 6: All of these things.
25:12
Speaker 1: Are the direct and all of this feeds into consumer
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Speaker 1: cost of living pressures, which means you don't have consumers
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Speaker 1: spending you don't in real terms, they are struggling to
25:23
Speaker 1: stay alive. All of this is a direct consequence of
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Speaker 1: government policy. Treasurer Charmers owns these figures. He owns the
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Speaker 1: consequence of these figures, those punishing interest rates from the
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Speaker 1: Reserve Bank. On the one hand, all that pain that
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Speaker 1: households and businesses are experiencing, the reality behind, as you say,
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Speaker 1: the worst overall numbers since nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one
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Speaker 1: when we had eighteen percent interest rates, the worst per
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Speaker 1: capita numbers since the early ninety eighties, that's nearly half
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Speaker 1: a century ago. This is a dreadful outcoming and it's
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Speaker 1: not going to get any better. There's not some magic
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Speaker 1: quarter that we're going to turn unless the government reverses
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Speaker 1: track on all the policies that are causing the problem.
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Speaker 2: The problem, Terry beyond the policies. Is the spending right,
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Speaker 2: and the spending is in social welfare areas.
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Speaker 3: It's money.
26:18
Speaker 2: If it goes to low income or middle income that
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Speaker 2: ends up there, making inflation worse, not better. It's running
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Speaker 2: at about or just done the twelve percent in the
26:26
Speaker 2: last quarter. This is the spending numbers. Now, we haven't
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Speaker 2: spent like that since the early stages of the pandemic.
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Speaker 2: So these are shocking numbers. And of course they're doing
26:35
Speaker 2: it to buy votes. That's what it was designed to
26:37
Speaker 2: do in the budget, to turn things around for them
26:39
Speaker 2: in the polls. It hasn't worked. We're obviously going to
26:42
Speaker 2: hit a campaign season and they'll be more spending as well,
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Speaker 2: but just as bad as the federal government at twelve percent,
26:49
Speaker 2: you've got fifteen percent of the spending here coming from
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Speaker 2: the states. Now, the states are borrowing money, in the
26:56
Speaker 2: case of Victoria, borrowing big to spend. We seem to
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Speaker 2: let them off. We shouldn't let the states off, should we?
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Speaker 1: Well, absolutely not, Peter. When Michelle Bullet theer as the
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Speaker 1: Bank governor, was saying that government spending was a major
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Speaker 1: part of the problem, she wasn't saying it was only
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Speaker 1: the federal government it was also the state governments. And
27:17
Speaker 1: the problem operates on two levels. It's the overall level
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Speaker 1: of spending, as you've indicated. Jim Charma says, but for
27:23
Speaker 1: the spending, the economy would have been going backwards. He
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to understand that the spending creates its own
27:30
Speaker 1: problems and that comes out in the level of interest rates.
27:35
Speaker 1: And secondly, Peter, it's the waste that's incurring in that spending.
27:39
Speaker 1: We know that. We see that most graphically in Victoria
27:43
Speaker 1: with these out of control projects where you've got two
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Speaker 1: hundred three hundred thousand, four hundred thousand dollar salaries being
27:51
Speaker 1: paid to c FMU members and you're getting a huge
27:54
Speaker 1: blowouting costs. All of that has to be paid for
27:57
Speaker 1: ultimately by the taxpayer, also paid for by these dreadful
28:02
Speaker 1: economic conditions.
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Speaker 2: Terry, what did you make of the revelation today that
28:08
Speaker 2: basically the Victorian health Minister ran out of money and
28:13
Speaker 2: had to get an urgent cash bailout from the treasurer
28:16
Speaker 2: had to be approved the same day just so that
28:19
Speaker 2: hospitals could pay their doctors and nurses and suppliers.
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Speaker 3: This is banana.
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Speaker 1: Republics Well, I was going to use exactly those two words, Peter.
28:31
Speaker 1: The first sign of a Banana Republic are potholes in
28:34
Speaker 1: roads that don't get repaired. Does that grig about in
28:37
Speaker 1: terms of driving around in Victoria, we're seeing that reality
28:41
Speaker 1: that the government is not able to do the basic
28:44
Speaker 1: services because it doesn't have the money. And when you
28:48
Speaker 1: see in the most graphic circumstances that hospitals were threatened
28:52
Speaker 1: with closure because they can't pay their wages bill, the
28:57
Speaker 1: governments had to go out and borrow half a billion
28:59
Speaker 1: dollars and make this emergency payment. Again, it's just a
29:03
Speaker 1: band aid on something that's far.
29:05
Speaker 6: Far worse.
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Speaker 2: Terry mccran, thank you. Interesting today. I've got to pick
29:12
Speaker 2: this up for you at home. John Howard was in
29:14
Speaker 2: the Australian newspaper making comments that he says, Jim Chalmers
29:18
Speaker 2: trying to blame shift his responsibility for the economy onto
29:22
Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank are and I quote the words of
29:25
Speaker 2: a treasurer who has lost his grip. It's a pretty
29:30
Speaker 2: damning assessment. Of course, before he was PM, John Howard
29:32
Speaker 2: was a treasurer himself all right. After the break, the
29:34
Speaker 2: PM still refusing to make clear of sympathy for hamas
29:38
Speaker 2: passes the character test for an Australian visa. Plus Kamala
29:42
Speaker 2: Harris the most underscrutinized presidential candidate in history. So with
29:48
Speaker 2: two months to go, will she be able to get
29:50
Speaker 2: away with it? Will she'd be able to hide from
29:52
Speaker 2: media and the voters. We'll go back still the car
30:01
Speaker 2: more on Peter Dutton's messages to Victorian liberals and not
30:04
Speaker 2: to lurch further to the left. But first I want
30:08
Speaker 2: to return to that clarification of sorts from ASIO boss
30:11
Speaker 2: Mike Burgess regarding those comments he made about visa eligibility.
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Speaker 16: But if it's just rhetorical support, if it's just rhetorical
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Speaker 16: support and they don't have an ideology or support for
30:22
Speaker 16: a violence stream as an ideology, then that's not a problem.
30:25
Speaker 16: If they have a support for that idergy, that will
30:27
Speaker 16: be a problem.
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Speaker 2: So back then, that's about a month ago, rhetorical support
30:33
Speaker 2: was okay, But now liking a tweet could get you
30:37
Speaker 2: into trouble. With revised comments from Burgess, of course, as
30:41
Speaker 2: I said last night, he says, I said a security
30:44
Speaker 2: assessment is just one hurdle to get a visa to
30:48
Speaker 2: come to Australia. That's one part ASIO handles that part,
30:52
Speaker 2: the security part. The other element is the character test.
30:57
Speaker 2: Now the government sets this, it's part of government holicy.
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Speaker 2: And we still haven't heard from the Prime Minister as
31:03
Speaker 2: to whether he thinks supporting Hummus meets or doesn't meet
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Speaker 2: the character test. Joining me now to discuss this and more.
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Speaker 2: Foreign Editor at The Australian Greg Sheridan. Well, as I said, Greg,
31:16
Speaker 2: we've got our clarification from Mike Burgess and I want
31:19
Speaker 2: to know whether you think he has done enough to
31:22
Speaker 2: address the issues, but we still had nothing from the
31:25
Speaker 2: Prime Minister, or indeed any senior minister on the question
31:29
Speaker 2: of character and sympathy or not for hermas.
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Speaker 17: Well, the way you frame it, Peter is absolutely correct.
31:37
Speaker 17: I think Mike Burgess has done though. I mean, Mike's
31:40
Speaker 17: a really good leader of ASIO, is a very good guy,
31:44
Speaker 17: very fine Australian. But he really said it an unbelievably
31:47
Speaker 17: stupid thing on the David Spears program. He seems to
31:50
Speaker 17: have a little bit of that infallibility complex that senior
31:53
Speaker 17: officials sometimes get, so you can't be to admit that
31:56
Speaker 17: he said a stupid thing. So he's got to say
31:58
Speaker 17: that his earlier remarks were misinterpreted or consciously distorted. Well,
32:04
Speaker 17: everyone you know, from the Labor Party through to John
32:07
Speaker 17: Howard and everyone in the middle was apparently involved in
32:10
Speaker 17: this distortion. Of course, no one could work out how
32:12
Speaker 17: being a rhetorical supporter of Hummas is consistent with coming
32:17
Speaker 17: to Australia, because Hummas has central ideology hateful anti Semitism
32:22
Speaker 17: and hatred of the United States and the extermination of
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Speaker 17: the state of Israel. So if you're a rhetorical supporter
32:27
Speaker 17: of Hummas, even if you're not a terrorist, that makes
32:30
Speaker 17: you an unacceptable person to come to Australia. Now he's
32:33
Speaker 17: cleared it up, and according to the ABC's report of
32:35
Speaker 17: what he said, any explicit support of Hummas now would
32:39
Speaker 17: get you a negative security rating from Asia. But then,
32:44
Speaker 17: as you say, on top of that, there is the
32:47
Speaker 17: character test and many, many people are excluded for visas
32:50
Speaker 17: to come to Australia. I mean the tennis player Djokovic
32:54
Speaker 17: was excluded just because he wouldn't get a COVID visa.
32:58
Speaker 17: Jab and Janopolo, that right wing commentator, was excluded because
33:03
Speaker 17: it was thought that his views would create trouble within Australia.
33:08
Speaker 17: So Alberizi could have cleared this matter up on day
33:13
Speaker 17: one and said okay, what Mike Burgers said was a
33:16
Speaker 17: bit clumsy, but what he meant was, you know, there
33:19
Speaker 17: are degrees of danger in a security clearance. However, as
33:24
Speaker 17: a matter of a character test, we the government wouldn't
33:27
Speaker 17: accept a hamas supporter. Now, apparently he didn't want to
33:30
Speaker 17: say that because he's scared of up setting Muslim voters
33:34
Speaker 17: in southwestern Sydney and western Melbourne. Well, that is absolutely pathetic.
33:38
Speaker 17: Maybe he has a different motivation. If he has a
33:40
Speaker 17: different motivation, he ordered to tell us, and certainly the
33:45
Speaker 17: way he's gone on over the last few weeks claiming
33:47
Speaker 17: that anyone, a politician or a journalist who asked this
33:51
Speaker 17: question is somehow or other promoting division in society. It
33:55
Speaker 17: was up to him to tell us right from day one,
33:57
Speaker 17: and it's still up to him to tell us. And
33:59
Speaker 17: I expect get another answer on this, another question on
34:02
Speaker 17: this in Parliament and he has to answer it. You
34:04
Speaker 17: can't hide behind you can't hide behind asos skirts any longer.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's going to go away. And
34:11
Speaker 2: I think it's incredibly gutless of no respect for a
34:14
Speaker 2: national leader who for four weeks.
34:15
Speaker 3: Can't tell us what.
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Speaker 2: Is in his scope for the character tests to come
34:21
Speaker 2: to Australia when we're dealing with people coming from a
34:23
Speaker 2: terrorist war zone.
34:25
Speaker 3: I want to ask you.
34:26
Speaker 2: Just some questions about the US election now, because this
34:28
Speaker 2: time next week we'll be discussing the debate, the first
34:32
Speaker 2: Trump Harris presidential debate, it will have occurred. But I
34:36
Speaker 2: want to know you've been around a long time, You've
34:38
Speaker 2: watched these presidential campaigns before. How does someone end up
34:42
Speaker 2: the nominee as she has have only done now one interview,
34:47
Speaker 2: and this was a bizarre one because she had to
34:48
Speaker 2: have basically the protection of her VP pick sitting next
34:52
Speaker 2: to her all the way through. How do you get
34:54
Speaker 2: all the way through like this? And will she even
34:57
Speaker 2: get to November without any scrutiny given she's applying for
35:02
Speaker 2: the most important job in the world as the leader
35:07
Speaker 2: of the free world.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Peter. The only precedent for this
35:11
Speaker 17: is Biden last time, and he had an excuse which
35:14
Speaker 17: was COVID, so he was able to campaign from his basement,
35:18
Speaker 17: do almost no unscripted encounters whatsoever. Now Biden got to
35:23
Speaker 17: the stage where he couldn't even read the teleprompter properly.
35:26
Speaker 17: You know, he'd read pause now and so forth the
35:29
Speaker 17: instructions on the teleprompter. But Harris herself represents a terrible
35:35
Speaker 17: decline in American political culture.
35:37
Speaker 5: Now.
35:37
Speaker 17: I didn't think either Bill Clinton or Barack Obama were
35:40
Speaker 17: particularly good presidents, but they certainly were extremely fluent, capable
35:45
Speaker 17: politicians and knew what they were talking about, were across
35:48
Speaker 17: all the areas of policy, and could speak fluently and
35:51
Speaker 17: answer questions. So could George W.
35:53
Speaker 3: Bush.
35:54
Speaker 17: I mean, this is a completely new phenomenon where we've
35:57
Speaker 17: got candidates for the presidency of the United States dates
36:00
Speaker 17: who can't do unscripted media interviews. Now done as not
36:04
Speaker 17: a bad journalist at CNN, but it was a very
36:06
Speaker 17: softball interview. She did ask some of the hard questions,
36:10
Speaker 17: but when Harris just declined to answer, you know, she said, well,
36:14
Speaker 17: why have you changed behind what scientific you know? And
36:19
Speaker 17: Harris just said, oh, my values have not changed, and
36:22
Speaker 17: Bash just left it at that. But I think sadly
36:25
Speaker 17: she may well get away with this. She'll do a
36:27
Speaker 17: few softball interviews like this. The big test will be
36:30
Speaker 17: in the debate. And here's the question, does Trump have
36:34
Speaker 17: the self discipline to pressure her on policy, but to
36:39
Speaker 17: pull back on the abuse and to let her condemn herself.
36:42
Speaker 17: I mean, already a lot of that CNN interview has
36:45
Speaker 17: gone viral. People are laughing at her non answers, her
36:48
Speaker 17: ridiculous verbal you know nothing, her word salads, her word confetti,
36:53
Speaker 17: you know, words without meaning. Now, Trump destroyed Biden because
36:57
Speaker 17: the moderators turned the microphone off when Biden was entering.
37:01
Speaker 17: They turned Trump's microphone up, so Trump putting it to
37:04
Speaker 17: up and Biden destroyed himself. But if they don't do
37:08
Speaker 17: that this time, Trump could well end up trying to
37:11
Speaker 17: bullying Harris, and that would only create sympathy for it.
37:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that with a test and we'll watch
37:19
Speaker 2: that very closely. Greg, I'm out of time. Thank you
37:21
Speaker 2: as always, great analysis right after the break, Dutton's very
37:25
Speaker 2: blunt warning to the Victorian liberals, plus yet another mind
37:29
Speaker 2: project in doubt because of nebulous Aboriginal heritage claims. And
37:33
Speaker 2: I've got an update too on that story about the
37:36
Speaker 2: big battery project in Victoria. The TV's targetry in a
37:39
Speaker 2: round tree is campaigning against the wonderful cal Richard is
37:48
Speaker 2: on his way but first let's get across some other
37:51
Speaker 2: issues out there today. I'm joined now by Sky News
37:53
Speaker 2: contributor former Howard Government Multicultural Affairs Minister Gary Hargraves and
37:58
Speaker 2: the senior fellow at Mentis Research Center Nick Cato, who
38:01
Speaker 2: is still abroad now. Peter Duton has warned John Bozuto
38:06
Speaker 2: today gens not to let the Victorian Liberals morph into
38:10
Speaker 2: labor light during an interview a podcast interview with former
38:15
Speaker 2: three aw broadcaster Neil Mitchell, have a listen.
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Speaker 8: The Victorian Liberal Party should be ten points ahead of
38:24
Speaker 8: what is a shocking government here in Victoria at the moment.
38:26
Speaker 8: I think there are structural issues. I think, as we've
38:30
Speaker 8: proven at a federal level, there's no sense being just
38:34
Speaker 8: a lighter version of Labor. I think you need to
38:37
Speaker 8: take policy differences. I think you need to show that
38:41
Speaker 8: you would take the state in a different but better direction.
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Speaker 3: My wonderful team in City of updated me.
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Speaker 2: Nick, you are home. I'll come to you in a moment.
38:50
Speaker 2: Gary pretty sage advice. The limbs in Victoria have basically
38:56
Speaker 2: been in opposition for thirty years, but for one short
39:00
Speaker 2: term in power.
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Speaker 3: Do you think they're going to listen?
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Speaker 15: I will probably not, because you see the problem, Peter
39:07
Speaker 15: is there's this dreadful snake that rolls its way through
39:10
Speaker 15: the Liberal Party right around the country, and it's called
39:13
Speaker 15: the left. They're wope, they're internationalists, they're into all this
39:16
Speaker 15: government subsidy for renewable projects, all this sort of stuff,
39:19
Speaker 15: and they're in the Liberal Party and the head of
39:21
Speaker 15: the snake is near South Wales. So Peter Dutton cutting
39:24
Speaker 15: off the head there is basically sending a message frankly
39:27
Speaker 15: to all states, but particularly to Victoria, and frankly also
39:30
Speaker 15: to Queensland that if we see these sorts of shenanigans,
39:33
Speaker 15: these sort of policy labor like policies coming through, if
39:36
Speaker 15: we don't actually have a clear agenda that you're going
39:39
Speaker 15: to set out and we understand your values, if you don't.
39:42
Speaker 6: Want to be Mensian liberals, you're in the wrong party.
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Speaker 15: That's basically the message Peter Dutton is sending out. And
39:48
Speaker 15: the trouble now is we have people who are absent
39:51
Speaker 15: the proper values, the Mensian values. They dress themselves up,
39:55
Speaker 15: Peter as conservatives in a center right party that goes
39:58
Speaker 15: over world with the branch members, they're actually woke lefties
40:02
Speaker 15: and they've infiltrated the organization right throughout the Australia, with
40:05
Speaker 15: the exception of Western Australia and South Australia where.
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Speaker 6: They're cleaning them out.
40:10
Speaker 15: Tasmania is getting there as well. But I've got to
40:13
Speaker 15: say the rest of the country has got big problems
40:16
Speaker 15: about these sorts of things in the organization running contrary
40:20
Speaker 15: to what everyday branch members want and that's the problem.
40:24
Speaker 15: We've got to get rid of these woke lefties in
40:26
Speaker 15: Victoria and other places, and it's got to be done now.
40:28
Speaker 15: Peter Duntan is doing the right thing and a lot
40:31
Speaker 15: of people are saying hallelujah.
40:32
Speaker 6: He's standing up for Mensian liberal values.
40:35
Speaker 3: Good are You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
40:38
Speaker 2: My phone is literally erupted in the last few days. Nick,
40:41
Speaker 2: you're now I'm back. You've beat around the New South
40:43
Speaker 2: Wales lived a long time. This big call to take
40:47
Speaker 2: over the division by the federal executive.
40:51
Speaker 3: Give me your take on things.
40:53
Speaker 13: It's a big call. Peter, You're right because for really,
40:56
Speaker 13: since his creation in nineteen forty four, what are the
40:59
Speaker 13: parties great stretch is that it's a federated party that
41:01
Speaker 13: the individual states have basically joined together, but they all
41:06
Speaker 13: have control over what happens in their own state. And
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Speaker 13: that works very well and has worked very well for
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Speaker 13: all that time. But of course it has weaknesses toos
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Speaker 13: We've seen it, and I really think that right now
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Speaker 13: the biggest obstacle to Peter Dunton winning the next election
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Speaker 13: is certainly not Atney Alban Easy is clearly the weakest
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Speaker 13: prime minister that I've remember for a long long time,
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Speaker 13: is really the factions in his own party, who's shannigans,
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Speaker 13: whose antics, whose self seeking behavior has weakened the party,
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Speaker 13: party structures, And now we end up to the point
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Speaker 13: whether this party structures are unable to control themselves, are
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Speaker 13: unable to try their own shoelaces in some cases. And
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Speaker 13: this federal intervention was necessary and I really hope it
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Speaker 13: pulls the party together, brings some sense together and say
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Speaker 13: the opposition is Labor, it is not the faction that
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Speaker 13: you are not, yep.
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Speaker 3: And it takes guts.
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Speaker 2: And I think this says to Australians, this is the
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Speaker 2: sort of leader you're going to get with Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 2: You don't quite prepare to make some tough decisions even
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Speaker 2: amongst his own let's go to the Blaney gold Mine.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned at the top of the show. There's ten
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Speaker 2: or so applications on Tania plev Sex Desk to winterven
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Speaker 2: into huge heritage laws, Aboriginal heritage laws to shut down development.
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Speaker 2: A big one is out there at the moment in
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Speaker 2: South Australia, the Blainey gold Mine. She's canceled that she's
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Speaker 2: under pressure though, have a listen.
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Speaker 14: Minister Pleibersak has a lot of answers to give for
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Speaker 14: the questions that are being asked by this community who
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Speaker 14: are beside themselves at the fact that this opportunity has
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Speaker 14: now been lost.
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Speaker 8: We will approve this mine as soon as we're elected
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Speaker 8: because all the approvals have been granted.
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Speaker 3: Now. Gary all credit to those MPs.
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Speaker 2: They are a little proud and just int an ambergen
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Speaker 2: proprice turning out, meeting with locals, get the intel on
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Speaker 2: the ground. That's what you want to see from politicians,
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Speaker 2: and David little proud of making the point you will
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Speaker 2: act us will approve the mind.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, a good point to make.
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Speaker 15: But you know, Peter, I'll put my hand up and
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Speaker 15: say to you that I voted for the environmental protection
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Speaker 15: by diversity Conservation Act Back in the early two thousands.
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Speaker 15: It was introduced to the Parliament as a way of
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Speaker 15: making sure we met certain UN protocols. What it's been
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Speaker 15: done has been weaponized by state governments all around the
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Speaker 15: country and this has slowed everything down. You can't get
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Speaker 15: approval for anything anywhere unless it's some sort of renewable
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Speaker 15: energy project.
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Speaker 6: Now Tanya Plebasek.
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Speaker 15: Is really vying for the honor of being the worst Minister,
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Speaker 15: which is really quite a title, but she is under
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Speaker 15: pressure from the Greens. The Greens will fairly likely win
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Speaker 15: her seat to Sydney at the next election. But what
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Speaker 15: she's doing is killing off projects everywhere in southeast Queensland.
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Speaker 6: Turned to Harbor in the Redlands area.
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Speaker 15: What that's done is completely wiped out about eleven billion
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Speaker 15: dollars worth of forward estimated infrastruture and further investment in
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Speaker 15: the area. She's killing off this gold mine, she ont
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Speaker 15: all these other things that she's trying to do, all
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Speaker 15: off the back of what keeping the extreme green international.
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Speaker 6: Socialist left happy.
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Speaker 15: I mean, there's so many adjectives you can add to it,
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Speaker 15: but Plipaseka signed on to it, and worse still, Peter
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Speaker 15: and this is the point. Anthony Alberanezi has no courage,
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Speaker 15: no convictions, and no values, and he is just simply
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Speaker 15: allowing these ministers Her and Bowen and all these other
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Speaker 15: people to get away with all of this. He's not
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Speaker 15: a prime minister, he's not even a prime minister's bootlace.
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Speaker 2: You make the point that if it's a renewables project
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Speaker 2: and gets the green light, everything gets swept away. I
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Speaker 2: spoke to Katrina Roundtree last night. She made that point
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Speaker 2: because it's the projects that make us money were shutting down.
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Speaker 2: But the project said cost us money, it causes grief,
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Speaker 2: they're green lighting.
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Speaker 3: Have a listen.
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Speaker 5: There is also an Aboriginal Cultural Heritage sensitive area on
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Speaker 5: this very farm. It's a little bit of tongue twisted
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Speaker 5: to get out, but I hope that you can understand
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Speaker 5: why the state government has already placed protections on this
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Speaker 5: and they are now beings. Step in, wipe a clean
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Speaker 5: and let this be pushed through.
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Speaker 2: Now, Nick, just as a quick update, she's managed to
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Speaker 2: get an extension on that sham consultation process was meant
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Speaker 2: to close on Friday. It will now run till Saturday.
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Speaker 2: For twenty eighth of September. There's the details engaged dot VIC,
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Speaker 2: dot gov, dot AU. Get onto that website. Speak your mind, please, Victorians.
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Speaker 2: But this is the problem and it's going to get worse, Nick,
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Speaker 2: because we know the Climate Energy Council wants us to
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Speaker 2: go even harder on these renewables to meet Bowen's targets
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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty.
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Speaker 13: It's the two Chier approval process that's really annoying people. Peter,
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Speaker 13: you've got this, you know to one rule if it's
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Speaker 13: a gold miner or if it's a coal mine that
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Speaker 13: get Clyde Palmer way, So open up completely different rules.
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Speaker 13: If you want to stick turber in native tropical forests
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Speaker 13: in far North Queensland, which the Minister approved quite recently
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Speaker 13: in the Upper Berdigan district. Apple were part of that deal.
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Speaker 13: They were going to buy the electricity. They pulled out
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Speaker 13: because they could see the damage to Kohala habitat and
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Speaker 13: other things that were going to be caused by this.
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Speaker 13: But no, the Minister approves it. He is a minister
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Speaker 13: that has great compassion for koalas and she set up
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Speaker 13: special programs to look after koalis.
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Speaker 16: But she has.
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Speaker 13: Approved wind turbine developments in Queensland that have taken out
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Speaker 13: thousands of hectares of Cohala habitat shame. It's just absolutely
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Speaker 13: the two standards that she applies are quite different.
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown too today announced six new big, massive battery
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Speaker 2: farms on their way. Every battery is the size of
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Speaker 2: a shipping container, and they are literally going to be
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Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them. So engage dot VIC,
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Speaker 2: dot GOV, dot AU, pushback Australia. All right, Jens, so
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Speaker 2: you both next week we'read to have you home, Nick
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Speaker 2: or right after the break, Kel Richards plenty of words
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Speaker 2: to get through the CIV joining me now our professor
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Speaker 2: of pros and pronunciations, Kel Richards, I genuinely think you
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Speaker 2: are a professor, and so do my audience.
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Speaker 3: Kel.
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Speaker 2: We think you're brilliant. This one I use all the time.
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Speaker 2: Pete wants to know where the term comes from, and
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Speaker 2: this Pete isn't me. I don't know either, though, come
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Speaker 2: hella high water.
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Speaker 3: Where do we get this one?
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Speaker 4: This is interesting? It's the eastward expression, if you like.
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Speaker 4: First turns up in an American newspaper in Nashville, Tennessee
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Speaker 4: in eighteen sixty eight. It just looks like a bit
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Speaker 4: of alliteration. But it's a bit more than that. It
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Speaker 4: came from the American West, from those cowboys who drove
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Speaker 4: big herds of cattle across huge distances to get to market.
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Speaker 4: They had to drive them across dry deserts, through rivers,
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Speaker 4: sometimes raging rivers. So they were a bit like Look,
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Speaker 4: there'll be people watching who remember the old show Rawhide,
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Speaker 4: where Rowdy Yates and gil Favor used to say, hit
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Speaker 4: them up, move them out. Those people were going through
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Speaker 4: hell and high water. They coined the expression that's how
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Speaker 4: they got the cattle to market.
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Speaker 2: I suspect our bullock drays would have this similar story
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Speaker 2: when they were developing our own frontier. Hey is another
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Speaker 2: one I use a lot. Richard wants to know, as
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Speaker 2: does Greg Sheridan. I have to say, Richard wants to
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Speaker 2: know where the term bugger's muddle comes from.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Greg Sheridan is used it on this program. It
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Speaker 4: means a complete and utter mess. It's military slang. A
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Speaker 4: lot of these kinds of expressions are military slang. During war,
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Speaker 4: when lots of likes get pushed together, the new words
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Speaker 4: get invented. This one comes from the British Army nineteen
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Speaker 4: forty three thereabouts. By the nineteen fifties it was popular
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Speaker 4: in England. It's basically a development of the earlier expression
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Speaker 4: bugger up, which just meant to spoil everything, ruin everything,
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Speaker 4: and that's around from eighteen ninety one, so it was
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Speaker 4: just that one made worse by war.
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Speaker 2: I feel like, does kidnap and kidnapping have anything to
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Speaker 2: do with children?
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Speaker 4: It did originally when it began. The first recording of
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Speaker 4: it is sixteen eighty two, and it involved the capture
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Speaker 4: of stealing of children to take them as workers on
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Speaker 4: American plantations. So the very earliest citation we find talks
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Speaker 4: about stealing our thirteen year old boy, I think it
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Speaker 4: is from Jamaica to sell him to work on an
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Speaker 4: American plantation. The napping part is related to the word
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Speaker 4: nab it needs to steal or take. But it originally
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Speaker 4: was kids. I mean, it's horrible when you think about
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Speaker 4: it now, but it worse it was originally kids.
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Speaker 2: And why do we toast someone? Why don't we have
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Speaker 2: a toast and hold up and glass?
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Speaker 3: What's that one?
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Speaker 4: Sixteen ninety eight is when it comes from. In those days,
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Speaker 4: they used to put a piece of toast in the
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Speaker 4: in the wine. They would flavor the toast with cinnamon
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Speaker 4: and a bit of shit and then put it in
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Speaker 4: the wine to improve the flavor.
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Speaker 6: I can't believe it, but they really did.
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Speaker 2: They wine must have been pretty crooked. Thank you, kel
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Speaker 2: see you next week. That's it's been me sing Tomorrow
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Speaker 2: night Andrew Bolt's optixed