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Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor - Was Amy Acton, Acting? · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: KRC, the talk station. 831 at 55 KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: It's Friday. Happy Friday. And it's that time of the
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  Speaker 1: week we get the benefit of Jack Windsor from theohiopressnetwork.com.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to love what he posts up there. And
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  Speaker 1: he's also the host of the Windsor Report, 98.9 FM Columbus.
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  Speaker 1: If you can tune it in, I'm sure you can
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  Speaker 1: stream it online. Welcome back, Jack Windsor, my friend. It's
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  Speaker 1: always great having you on the program.
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  Speaker 2: Brian, always an honor and a pleasure to be here
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  Speaker 2: with you and Joe and all the listeners. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: having me.
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  Speaker 1: You seem to be having, is it schadenfreude? You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're reporting on Amy Acton of late. Oh, my God,
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  Speaker 1: she got attacked. She was almost murdered, Jack Windsor. This
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  Speaker 1: is like Donald Trump assassination attempt time. And then, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not. Did her team not think that video would
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  Speaker 1: be available at some point? Did they not think that
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  Speaker 1: the lie that this guy came at her with a
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  Speaker 1: firearm aimed at her or something wouldn't come out? What's
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  Speaker 1: going on, Jack Windsor?
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  Speaker 2: There are so many layers to this. Here's what we know, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's how all the news stations start. And then they
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  Speaker 2: usually lie to you after that. I won't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Here's what we know. We know that Amy
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  Speaker 2: Acton was at the Canfield Fair. And we know that
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  Speaker 2: shortly after an incident occurred that many mainstream outlets, really
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  Speaker 2: through the Associated Press and some other larger scale news organizations,
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  Speaker 2: reported that an armed man attacked Amy Acton. And then
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  Speaker 2: they parroted Amy Acton's campaign and the press release that
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  Speaker 2: they put out that said things like political violence is
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  Speaker 2: not okay. The man was armed. The man lunged at
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton. Amy Acton provided care. And so soon after,
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  Speaker 2: one of the guys that co-hosts my radio show with
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  Speaker 2: me admitted yesterday, he said, I got a notice on
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  Speaker 2: my phone and he said, I read it and thought,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is like Butler, Pennsylvania all over again,
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  Speaker 2: just involving Amy Acton. And he was being raw. And frankly,
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  Speaker 2: I think we were all there. And then the Ohio
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  Speaker 2: attorney general puts a statement out that says political violence
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  Speaker 2: is not okay. Amy Acton was attacked. We're praying for
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  Speaker 2: the victims. And so my mind first went to, I
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  Speaker 2: hope everyone's okay. And then the investigative journalism DNA kicked in.
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  Speaker 2: And so I started digging and, uh, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: been the whole week digging. And here's what I know.
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  Speaker 2: The man did not lunge at Amy Acton. The man
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  Speaker 2: did not have weapons drawn. He was apparently carrying weapons.
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  Speaker 2: But as I've gotten reports, the information that would generally
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  Speaker 2: be there when they inventory what a suspect has, has
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  Speaker 2: been blacked out. The video that the alleged assailant is
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  Speaker 2: what he was called recorded has been withheld. and the
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  Speaker 2: body worn camera of the state highway patrolman who one
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  Speaker 2: report says took Andrew Havis, who was the guy who
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  Speaker 2: entered the tent, according to the prosecutor video recording, the
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  Speaker 2: body worn camera from the trooper, they will not turn over.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been pouring through the Canfield police reports, the
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  Speaker 2: Ohio state highway patrol reports, the Mahoning County sheriff reports,
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  Speaker 2: listening to the video of the prosecutor. And, uh, There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot there. I'll tell you what I've uncovered, but
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  Speaker 2: it certainly is not an assassination plot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you did post on your I saw it
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook. I don't know if you have it at
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio Press Network dot com as well. The video
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  Speaker 1: from one of the people that was in the tent. Now,
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  Speaker 1: she had instructed everybody in there to turn their video
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  Speaker 1: cameras off.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't record this for whatever reason, as if, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can turn off everybody's cell phone. But there is
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  Speaker 1: an angle there. that seems to show that there was
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  Speaker 1: very little disturbance. I didn't see anybody fall over in
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  Speaker 1: that angle of video. Now, granted, it doesn't show this
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  Speaker 1: Havis guy in the video from what I can tell,
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  Speaker 1: but it didn't look like a whole lot was going on, Jack.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like a crowd of people and who hasn't
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  Speaker 1: gotten bumped into in a crowd of people. It just
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  Speaker 1: looked like a non-event.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly looks like a non-event. The video that
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  Speaker 2: I put out, it shoots a certain range. And what
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  Speaker 2: you see is some group of people enter from the
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  Speaker 2: right side of the frame and they're not there very long,
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  Speaker 2: but there's like no fighting. There's no, and as I
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  Speaker 2: read the reports here, here's what I've come up with.
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  Speaker 2: There was a guy, the prosecutor said that had his phone.
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  Speaker 2: It was out and he was walking toward Amy Acton
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  Speaker 2: saying her name. He was trying to ask a question.
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  Speaker 2: But one report says that her security detail, which is
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  Speaker 2: comprised of the Ohio State Highway Patrol and maybe others
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  Speaker 2: intercepted him. So, Now, I want to see the video.
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  Speaker 2: My interpretation, without seeing other video, is that they went
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  Speaker 2: to him. Now, here's my suspicion, and I can't prove
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  Speaker 2: it yet.
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  Speaker 1: I know where you're going.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. I think they went to him because he
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  Speaker 2: was recording, and Amy Acton wanted no recordings. And so
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  Speaker 2: as they went to him, if he's looking at Amy
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  Speaker 2: Acton and recording and walking toward her, he may not
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  Speaker 2: be looking at the people who are trying to approach him.
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  Speaker 2: My guess is he might have been bumped. They may
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  Speaker 2: have tried to grab him. And in the process of
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  Speaker 2: that happening, we know that people fell to the ground.
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  Speaker 2: What I don't know is whether Havis caused them to
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  Speaker 2: fall to the ground, whether the security detail caused them
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  Speaker 2: to fall to the ground. And so what was, to me,
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  Speaker 2: an event that was maybe somebody stumbled and fell, somehow
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  Speaker 2: turned into an armed assailant lunged at Amy Acton, and
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  Speaker 2: they treated it like political violence. And some people even
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  Speaker 2: said it was an assassination attempt. So... But what I
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  Speaker 2: do know is that the press did a piss poor
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  Speaker 2: job yet again and took a press release instead of
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  Speaker 2: doing investigative work to report what happened.
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  Speaker 1: And our authorities made it that much worse because without
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  Speaker 1: the evidence, which would confirm one way or another, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: an assassination attempt. Hey, let's see the video. We can
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  Speaker 1: either refute those rumors or say, you know what? Those
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  Speaker 1: people who speculated it was an assassination attempt were the
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  Speaker 1: right ones. Jack Windsor was wrong when he speculated it
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  Speaker 1: was just an accident. People bumped into each other. We're
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  Speaker 1: left to speculate, Jack. Isn't that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Give us the damn evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm trying to get the evidence. I've requested
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  Speaker 2: the evidence multiple times. I now will have to go
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  Speaker 2: to the court. There is a special court that was
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  Speaker 2: set up in Ohio by the legislature several years ago
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  Speaker 2: that allows me to go in and say, hey, here's
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  Speaker 2: the Ohio revised code on open records. Here's why I
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  Speaker 2: need it. And then within a week or so, we'll
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  Speaker 2: probably get those if they're not leaked. But listen, I
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  Speaker 2: want to take people back to the prosecutor's spoke to
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  Speaker 2: the press earlier this week and said, not verbatim, but
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  Speaker 2: essentially the recording that we have is from the gentleman's phone.
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  Speaker 2: He's walking to the tent. He's not bum rushing, bull rushing, lunging.
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  Speaker 2: He's walking, saying her name and the phone gets tasseled
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  Speaker 2: and it falls. And that's what we know. And we
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  Speaker 2: also know that the prosecutor said there's no evidence that
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  Speaker 2: there should be felony charges. Well, there are four charges
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  Speaker 2: because he was released on bond and there is a
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  Speaker 2: trial date set. The other interesting part is I get
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  Speaker 2: that he's not allowed to carry weapons. I get that
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  Speaker 2: he's not allowed to talk to Amy Acton or the
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  Speaker 2: people who were on the ground. We don't know who
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  Speaker 2: put them there or how they got there. I get
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  Speaker 2: that he's not allowed to have contact with them. But
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  Speaker 2: it's really strange to me that he's also been gagged.
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  Speaker 2: He's not allowed to talk to the press. Why would
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  Speaker 2: that be a condition of his being released on bond?
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  Speaker 1: So that's a civil rights violation.
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  Speaker 2: It is a First Amendment violation.
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  Speaker 1: It is a civil rights violation. I would say that
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  Speaker 1: is an unlawful, unconstitutional order. You can't restrain someone and
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  Speaker 1: tell them to keep their mouth shut. Protective order justified
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  Speaker 1: if the circumstances warrant. Depriving someone of their constitutional right
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  Speaker 1: to free speech, et cetera, no way. You'll run into
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  Speaker 1: court and get a judgment on that one. Jack Windsor,
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  Speaker 1: is there any question in your mind, legally, you are
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  Speaker 1: and we are basically entitled to get that video?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Thank you. Because he's been charged. Right. He's
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  Speaker 2: not been charged with anything that the video would would
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  Speaker 2: sour the I mean, I guess the prosecutor would make
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  Speaker 2: the the argument. And I think this is what it's
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  Speaker 2: going to hinge on, that if there is a jury trial,
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  Speaker 2: then releasing that video would maybe somehow poison the well
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  Speaker 2: with the jurors. But I mean, come on, we're overcooking
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  Speaker 2: the grits grits on that. Right. I mean, that's just
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  Speaker 2: asinine to me.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go away. Washington Examiner did a write-up on Amy Acton's, well,
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  Speaker 1: her term as Ohio's medical director. See the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: 842-55-KRCD talk station. Head on over to theohiopressnetwork.com. Get yourself
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  Speaker 1: a copy of the Washington Examiner expose on Dr. Amy
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  Speaker 1: Acton's time as medical director here in Ohio. Sounds like
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  Speaker 1: she had a bit of a struggle talking with Jack
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  Speaker 1: Windsor from the Ohio Press Network. Jack, not really a
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  Speaker 1: glowing review of Amy Acton's service to the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Omanishevitz. So this story came out, it would have been,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, Wednesday night. And within an hour of it publishing,
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  Speaker 2: I had no less than a dozen text messages with
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  Speaker 2: the article in it. And the one that best describes
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  Speaker 2: it in my mind, a friend sent it with one word, damning.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, well, I better read this. And then,
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  Speaker 2: of course, we published a summary of it and linked
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  Speaker 2: to the article. The short of it is this, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: there are five members of the state of Ohio government,
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  Speaker 2: a government from health department, governor's office, career civil service workers,
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  Speaker 2: at least five, who said that Amy Acton was at
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  Speaker 2: times absent from the daily sessions where advisors reviewed case
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  Speaker 2: counts and decided shutdown orders before each of those afternoon
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  Speaker 2: press conferences. We all remember those really well. And former
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  Speaker 2: senior staffer for Governor Mike DeWine's office, recalled the governor
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  Speaker 2: asking on multiple occasions, Amy, what do you think? Does
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  Speaker 2: anybody know where Amy is? And Amy would not be present,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes not showing up, Other times she had to be
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  Speaker 2: chased down and brought in. Someone else said there were
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  Speaker 2: times that they weren't sure that she was going to
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  Speaker 2: show up for the press conference. Now I have a
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  Speaker 2: personal experience with that. I'll tell you about why I
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  Speaker 2: think that is a little bit later on. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there was one instance you mentioned it earlier
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  Speaker 2: where she was found, uh, curled up. I'm thinking fetal position, crying, overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 2: Another time she was crying in the bathroom and unable
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  Speaker 2: to attend what were called these emergency meetings where they
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  Speaker 2: had decisions to make about COVID. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of layers to this, but there
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  Speaker 2: have been a lot of questions about whether Amy Acton
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  Speaker 2: can handle the pressure when things get tough because she
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  Speaker 2: quit 94 days into her handling of COVID and then
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  Speaker 2: asked the personal medical advisor at 200 and some thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year when the state was in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a hiring crisis and that didn't last long. And
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  Speaker 2: then she went on and of course the job hopping
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  Speaker 2: continued for three to four more years. So the question is,
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  Speaker 2: is she able to handle the pressure? And then the
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  Speaker 2: other question is, if she was absent so much, who
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  Speaker 2: the hell was making these determinations that shut down our schools,
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  Speaker 2: shut down our businesses and decided that basically we had
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  Speaker 2: to enter into this new normal that none of us
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  Speaker 2: voted for or agreed with.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question. I find it rather odd, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe I can get your reaction, how it is that
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  Speaker 1: it seems Governor DeWine keeps coming to her defense in
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  Speaker 1: little ways here and there, notably saying, no, it's my responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one that, yeah, the buck may stop with DeWine.
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  Speaker 1: He has the signature authority to, I guess, enact a lockdown,
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  Speaker 1: but he did it at her behest and at her recommendation.
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  Speaker 1: Without Amy Acton, there wouldn't have been any Ohio lockdown,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. And, you know, I've really mulled
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  Speaker 2: over this a lot in the past couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it comes down to two things. So
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  Speaker 2: you have to bear with me on this. Either he's
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  Speaker 2: a rhino protecting rhinos and people like Amy Acton who
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  Speaker 2: love big government and he doesn't like people like Vivek
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  Speaker 2: Ramaswamy who proposes to come in, shake things up, do
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  Speaker 2: it entirely differently. And certainly that's going to. totally hurt
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  Speaker 2: some of the traditional GOP donor class members and business
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  Speaker 2: as usual at the statehouse. And that might make Governor
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  Speaker 2: DeWine uncomfortable. He kind of loves that rhino path that
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  Speaker 2: John Kasich carved and he has walked down for eight years.
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  Speaker 2: So it's either that or I think it's this. Mike
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  Speaker 2: DeWine is all ego. Mike DeWine cares about his legacy
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  Speaker 2: and he cannot get over the fact that Amy Acton
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  Speaker 2: did a terrible job as the health director during COVID,
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  Speaker 2: caused more harm than good He looks at that as
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  Speaker 2: a stain on his legacy reputation and says, well, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? I'm going to defend her. And if she
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  Speaker 2: does well later on, then I can point back and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: she did well in the election or, hey, she ended
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  Speaker 2: up being the next governor. So the 94 days that
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  Speaker 2: she was in my cabinet working for me must have
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  Speaker 2: been impactful. Look at me. I'm great. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what it is. I think he's just afraid to look
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  Speaker 2: like a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go with answer C, all of
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  Speaker 1: the above. It's all of the above. Jack Windsor, don't
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  Speaker 1: go away. We got more to talk about coming after
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  Speaker 1: these brief words.
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  Speaker 2: Stick around. 55 KRC.
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  Speaker 1: For 50 years, Sharon, the talk station. 848 at 55 KRC,
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  Speaker 1: the talk station, theohiopressnetwork.com. Find Jack Windsor, read what he
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  Speaker 1: has to say over there, and check out his radio program.
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  Speaker 1: And make sure you're here listening to the 55 KRC
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show beginning at 830 every Friday like we're doing
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  Speaker 1: right now. Hey, Jack Windsor, what's a more difficult role?
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  Speaker 1: Medical director for the state of Ohio or governor of
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  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. Does one role seem to have
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  Speaker 1: a little more weight, more responsibility, maybe a little more
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  Speaker 1: pressure than the other one? Anybody, huh? Maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've gone back and looked at her
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  Speaker 2: medical training, her medical license, her internship. And she started
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  Speaker 2: out thinking she wanted to be a pediatrician. And then
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  Speaker 2: I think years two and three of her medical studies,
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  Speaker 2: she went to the public health path. And you go, well,
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  Speaker 2: why are you talking about that? Because that's what she
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  Speaker 2: was trained for. She was trained for the job that
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  Speaker 2: she had during COVID in 2020, and she lasted 94 days.
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  Speaker 2: So now she wants to take on a state government
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  Speaker 2: that has, I can't remember, 50,000 employees maybe, a budget
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  Speaker 2: of $ 100 billion each biennium. If she couldn't get the
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  Speaker 2: public health thing right, it's going to take a really
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  Speaker 2: strong dose of, potent marijuana for people to think that
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  Speaker 2: she's going to be able to be the next governor
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  Speaker 2: of the state of Ohio and not crack under pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you read the Washington Examiner's article bringing it down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it clearly gives you the impression, and granted,
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  Speaker 1: it's the opinions of five people that work with her
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  Speaker 1: around this time, but it gives the impression that she
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  Speaker 1: cracks under pressure. She can't handle it. And that would
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  Speaker 1: answer the question about why she seems to be a
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  Speaker 1: coward in the face of engaging in a debate with
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  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. She won't do it. And she provides these
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous explanations as to why, and I keep referring to
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  Speaker 1: her as a coward. This is simple cowardice. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: a recognition of her own incompetence that she won't debate,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe she knows she'll never be able to answer
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  Speaker 1: questions like we're talking about right now on these issues.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but When you read the article and
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  Speaker 1: you think, oh, this is the woman that refuses to
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  Speaker 1: debate when she wants to be governor of the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio, I think we come to one reasonable conclusion, Jack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Let me give you my lived experience. There
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  Speaker 2: were two occasions during Governor DeWine's COVID pressers when I
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  Speaker 2: was still able to ask questions and DeWine had not
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  Speaker 2: violated my First Amendment right to appear and ask questions.
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  Speaker 2: I would ask tough questions and twice I confronted her
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  Speaker 2: with information that was contradictory and The next day, she
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  Speaker 2: did not attend COVID pressers. And I remember thinking, wow, OK,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to be mean. She must have been
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  Speaker 2: devastated and she didn't show up. So that's number one.
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  Speaker 2: So there is this pattern of being unable to handle
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  Speaker 2: tough situations and cope in a way that allows you
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  Speaker 2: to show up and show up to do your best.
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  Speaker 2: That's just evidence. And so that's part of why she
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  Speaker 2: won't debate. And think about how that is now extending
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  Speaker 2: into her campaign. You and I both know. Candidates spend
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars each election cycle to get on TV
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  Speaker 2: and in front of voters. Why in the world would
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  Speaker 2: Amy Acton not want people recording at her events and
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  Speaker 2: organically posting those recordings online? That's free publicity.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: And you go, okay, so there must be a bigger
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  Speaker 2: issue than her being noticed. What is it? It's what
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  Speaker 2: she would be noticed for. And notice what happened last weekend.
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  Speaker 2: She was recorded when Pete Buttigieg was on stage. And
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  Speaker 2: as soon as that video hit, it went viral. And
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  Speaker 2: the consensus was, I'm not saying she's a drunk, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying she sounds kind of drunk in this video.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: That's part and parcel as well. But let's go to
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the bigger issue here. And I'm going to boil this down. Sorry,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I'm so long winded. That's all right. The bigger issue
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: is the Democrat Party putting her up. I mean, let's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: think about this. This is a woman who can't debate.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: This is a woman who couldn't handle the position that
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: she trained for her whole life. And now they want
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to make her governor, but they're not going to put
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: her on a stage. They're not going to let people
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: record her. And you go, well, why is that? Well,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: that's because David Pepper is the Democrat operative. Let's not
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: make any bones about it. He's going to run that
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: operation if she's elected. And they're using her the same
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: way the Democrats used Joe Biden in 2024.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Isn't that truth? And the same campaign. Keep him in
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the basement. But, you know, Jack, the one thing you
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: can at least argue about Joe Biden hiding in his basement,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: they could claim it was because of COVID-19. You know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he's a senior. You know, he's in the crosshairs of COVID-19.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: He's one of the most likely people to drop dead
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: because he's old or whatever. Hide in the basement. He
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: got away with it. But those days are gone. Amy
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Acton being out loud in public but not taking questions
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: from the press, not debating, that is a coward. It
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: is a coward.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It is a coward. And all that they've done then,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: every question that comes up, every opportunity to sully or
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: defame or smear someone, they go to these little, we've
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: talked about this in the past, these little progressive blogs
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that pretend to be news outlets and they put these
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: stories out and then they republish their stories on their
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: social media feeds to get their lackeys and their followers
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: to believe these really bad things about reporters like me
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: and candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy and so on and so forth.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And so instead of engaging with voters and confronting issues
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: with real policy choices and platforms, they just opt for
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: smear campaigns and hiding in the basement. And I think
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: people will see through that. We have, what, 60 some
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: days now, but it's going to be really interesting.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It already is, Jack Windsor, and I'm glad we have
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk with you about it. I appreciate
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: what you're doing, theohiopressnetwork.com, to follow Jack throughout the week
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and tune in again. We'll do it next Friday at
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: 8.30 again, brother. It's always a pleasure having you on
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the 55 KRC Morning Show.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Honored to be here. Have a great weekend.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Keep up the great work.