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Ep. 205 - How to Avoid the Sin of Partiality · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:05
  Oscar Navarro: You know what?
• 1:05
  Oscar Navarro: Let me.
• 1:05
  Oscar Navarro: I actually think this is something that's incredible that Ray does.
• 1:08
  Oscar Navarro: And for our listeners who don't know, we are a nonprofit.
• 1:10
  Oscar Navarro: We exist because faithful partners.
• 1:13
  Oscar Navarro: Literally every day we receive gifts from faithful partners who want to see more and more Christians around the world be inspired and fulfilling the Great Commission.
• 1:20
  Oscar Navarro: Thank you to our ministry partners.
• 1:22
  Oscar Navarro: They make this podcast possible.
• 1:24
  Oscar Navarro: I bring all that up to say that, as I speak with a lot of other nonprofits, they'll tell me something like oh yeah, our founder, we give him anybody who gives $10,000 or more.
• 1:35
  Oscar Navarro: He'll give them a call and tell them thank you.
• 1:37
  Oscar Navarro: And one of the things I love about you, ray, is I go into the notes and I will find somebody that gave $50, $10.
• 1:44
  Oscar Navarro: Like.
• 1:45
  Oscar Navarro: I've seen notes from you that you just you call them to say thank you.
• 1:49
  Oscar Navarro: Just the other day you hopped on a FaceTime call with me for a young man who's not given anything to the ministry, just to encourage him.
• 1:56
  Oscar Navarro: I just want to say that I think that you represent so well not showing partiality.
• 2:02
  Oscar Navarro: If you have the time and you're aware, you will make the call and I'm super thankful for that.
• 2:12
  Emeal Zwayne: While none of you seated at this table has ever succeeded in helping me to solve any mystery I've ever brought to you.
• 2:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Desperate times call for desperate measures, and I'm very desperate right about now.
• 2:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Against all hope, I'll try again.
• 2:30
  Oscar Navarro: I absolutely love ramen Ditto.
• 2:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Ooh, that sounds so good right now, okay, but here's the mystery, oscar why, please someone tell me why I have not been able to find the simple, beautiful, glorious cup of noodle or top ramen or Marishan flavored ramen at any ramen place I've ever been?
• 2:53
  Emeal Zwayne: To Please somebody.
• 2:55
  Oscar Navarro: What was your problem?
• 2:55
  Oscar Navarro: You can't find good ramen, Okay.
• 2:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, you don't listen.
• 2:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm talking about cup of noodle top ramen.
• 3:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Marishan flavor in the ramen, in the juice.
• 3:10
  Oscar Navarro: You're saying that that is your standard for ramen.
• 3:12
  Oscar Navarro: Oh no, here we go.
• 3:14
  Emeal Zwayne: This is going to launch in other war.
• 3:16
  Oscar Navarro: I need to understand what's happening real quick.
• 3:18
  Oscar Navarro: Are you using top ramen in cup of noodle as your telos for?
• 3:24
  Emeal Zwayne: ramen From a guy who drinks corroded ramen.
• 3:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Is that what's happening?
• 3:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Boater oil.
• 3:30
  Oscar Navarro: Yes, the telos of ramen to you is top ramen, the telos.
• 3:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Flavor of ramen.
• 3:37
  Emeal Zwayne: What, Okay, you need help.
• 3:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Bro Mark, can you relay?
• 3:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Please tell me you have some semblance of human in you, Por favor?
• 3:47
  Mark Spence: I don't like top ramen Because it's not just a bowl of MSG.
• 3:51
  Mark Spence: Yeah with salt.
• 3:54
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys have problems.
• 3:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I love ramen.
• 3:56
  Emeal Zwayne: I cannot find this glorious flavor.
• 3:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Why do they complicate matters?
• 4:01
  Oscar Navarro: There is like a world renowned ramen shop like five miles down the road and I bet you it doesn't have that good flavor.
• 4:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Praise the lord.
• 4:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It doesn't have that flavor, okay, whatever, oscar, you need serious, serious help.
• 4:14
  Oscar Navarro: It's like just salt MSG.
• 4:15
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, that's.
• 4:16
  Oscar Navarro: I love soup.
• 4:18
  Mark Spence: I just I don't like a stomach full of what is it?
• 4:20
  Mark Spence: What are those noodles even made out of?
• 4:21
  Mark Spence: In top ramen, it's made out of noodles.
• 4:23
  Mark Spence: Styrofoam yeah, probably.
• 4:26
  Emeal Zwayne: What are noodles made out of?
• 4:27
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, Do you guys know?
• 4:29
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, noodles Starch.
• 4:32
  Oscar Navarro: Is it?
• 4:32
  Oscar Navarro: They take a bunch of flour.
• 4:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, is it kind of like a batter mix kind?
• 4:36
  Oscar Navarro: of thing.
• 4:36
  Oscar Navarro: You know I've made noodles before, but I don't remember what I put in there.
• 4:39
  Oscar Navarro: Have you seen those restaurants?
• 4:40
  Mark Spence: where you can.
• 4:41
  Mark Spence: It's like a conveyor belt and it shoots out the different stuff to add to your ramen bowl.
• 4:46
  Oscar Navarro: No, oh yeah, what are those called?
• 4:48
  Oscar Navarro: I have no idea.
• 4:48
  Oscar Navarro: I have a question for you, mark.
• 4:49
  Oscar Navarro: Yes, sir, I have a question for you.
• 4:54
  Mark Spence: Winnerschnitzel.
• 4:56
  Oscar Navarro: What is the best dessert you've ever had in the city of New York and how much did you pay for it?
• 5:02
  Mark Spence: It was a chocolate souffle, which I was talking to my daughter yesterday about making me some chocolate souffle.
• 5:07
  Mark Spence: I absolutely love it.
• 5:08
  Mark Spence: It's so expensive, though, so we got duped into going to this fancy French restaurant.
• 5:14
  Mark Spence: All we wanted was dessert.
• 5:15
  Mark Spence: Did Oscar dupe you?
• 5:17
  Mark Spence: Well, oscar found the place Oscars could have finding good restaurants.
• 5:21
  Mark Spence: I'll give him that he knows how to find a good restaurant.
• 5:23
  Mark Spence: But so we went into this place, and then the bill arrives and we found out that the chocolate souffle's were $55.
• 5:30
  Oscar Navarro: $65 a piece for a dessert, wait, wait, what $65 for a chocolate souffle and it was smaller than this cup of coffee.
• 5:41
  Mark Spence: It was good, but it was like what is?
• 5:43
  Emeal Zwayne: happening.
• 5:43
  Emeal Zwayne: You know what I have an admission to make?
• 5:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Souffle is one of those words that, no matter how many times people tell me what it means, I just cannot remember it for the life of me.
• 5:53
  Emeal Zwayne: It's flayed soup.
• 5:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, stop it.
• 5:58
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a French word.
• 5:59
  Ray Comfort: It's a nice souffle.
• 6:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I get it.
• 6:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that person asked me it's French, it's French.
• 6:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Oui, oui, jean-réjean, on péris, on péris, etri, soufflé, yes, Ow, that hurt my ears.
• 6:13
  Oscar Navarro: Welcome to our lives.
• 6:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Mark, what's a soufflé?
• 6:18
  Mark Spence: It is a it's like a cake that deflates you guys have no idea either.
• 6:25
  Oscar Navarro: It's like lava cake, basically.
• 6:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's like a lava cake.
• 6:27
  Oscar Navarro: But fancier Whatever.
• 6:28
  Emeal Zwayne: But silky, but there's all kinds of souffle.
• 6:31
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a thing like a.
• 6:32
  Ray Comfort: That's it there, yeah.
• 6:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, the picture's worth a thousand desserts.
• 6:36
  Emeal Zwayne: What is?
• 6:36
  Ray Comfort: that.
• 6:37
  Ray Comfort: I don't know, I just typed in souffle and that came up.
• 6:40
  Emeal Zwayne: That looks like an overripe pancake or something it's like an enhanced it's a baked egg-paste dish originating in the Kingdom of France in the early 18th century.
• 6:49
  Ray Comfort: Boy, it's all right, I wouldn't touch it, all right.
• 6:51
  Emeal Zwayne: It's gone.
• 6:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Bad Problem spoiled from the 18th century.
• 6:54
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a fur on top.
• 6:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, you like ramen?
• 6:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you a fur guy?
• 6:58
  Oscar Navarro: I like fur, but I prefer ramen over fur.
• 7:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, right, I would love ramen over fur if it tasted like God.
• 7:04
  Emeal Zwayne: This is a foreign language.
• 7:05
  Ray Comfort: I haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
• 7:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you ever had a good bowl of ramen Vietnamese.
• 7:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, vietnamese, yeah, okay, oh that's pretty good, man, I like fur.
• 7:15
  Mark Spence: Yeah, there's a place near me.
• 7:16
  Mark Spence: I've never had it.
• 7:17
  Mark Spence: Oh is it cold.
• 7:18
  Mark Spence: Oh, we got to go, mark.
• 7:19
  Mark Spence: There's a place over by Pepe de Coupu, pepe de Coupu, pepe de Coupu, pepe de Coupu.
• 7:26
  Mark Spence: Pepe de Coupu why can't you say that slow yeah by the mall?
• 7:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh you know, right there by Lucille's.
• 7:31
  Mark Spence: Oh.
• 7:31
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, there's a.
• 7:33
  Emeal Zwayne: This is super helpful to our listeners in this English dish it's like great.
• 7:37
  Oscar Navarro: If I'm ever in Belflour, I know where to get a souffle.
• 7:38
  Emeal Zwayne: The Mir Angle Eat Ramen and the Fur Is this the Living One's podcast, no.
• 7:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, honestly, what can we do to get you to be more daring with eating new stuff?
• 7:50
  Ray Comfort: I do different stuff.
• 7:51
  Ray Comfort: Sometimes Name anything different.
• 7:52
  Ray Comfort: I had some fries the other day.
• 7:54
  Ray Comfort: Unsalted Ray, I want to get you adventurous with your taste buds.
• 7:58
  Ray Comfort: Look, I've traveled all over the world and given me mashed potatoes with gravy on.
• 8:03
  Oscar Navarro: Seriously, what's the most obscure thing you've ever eaten, Ray.
• 8:08
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I was in Mexico with Easy and a couple other guys years ago and we had some genuine Mexican food and I liked it.
• 8:16
  Oscar Navarro: I wanted him to say like oh, this one time I was in Mexico and they gave me a taco.
• 8:22
  Ray Comfort: Well, it was a taco Tongue, taco that was a language.
• 8:24
  Ray Comfort: It was really nice.
• 8:25
  Emeal Zwayne: No, but that says the most exotic food he had at taco A taco, a taco With some ketchup on it.
• 8:30
  Emeal Zwayne: But, ray, seriously though, live a little.
• 8:35
  Ray Comfort: No, Mark and I have been to Singapore.
• 8:36
  Ray Comfort: I've been a couple of times and we've had Singaporean food.
• 8:40
  Mark Spence: Have you been to.
• 8:40
  Ray Comfort: Singapore.
• 8:40
  Ray Comfort: Yes, I really hated.
• 8:42
  Ray Comfort: It Ray, would you eat escargos?
• 8:43
  Ray Comfort: No, too slow, too slow, snails.
• 8:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark, have you guys ever had escargo?
• 8:52
  Oscar Navarro: I actually have not.
• 8:53
  Oscar Navarro: That's one thing I've never had.
• 8:54
  Oscar Navarro: Look why call it, I'll have anything once.
• 8:55
  Oscar Navarro: Call it what it is, it's like sin.
• 8:58
  Ray Comfort: It's called something like adultery being called something else.
• 9:00
  Emeal Zwayne: For some reason saying escargo sounds much more happy.
• 9:03
  Oscar Navarro: It's because they can charge you more.
• 9:04
  Oscar Navarro: You can't charge somebody $20 for snails have some snails please.
• 9:09
  Ray Comfort: How fast does your carousel go?
• 9:12
  Oscar Navarro: That's how it goes.
• 9:12
  Oscar Navarro: I will try anything once though.
• 9:14
  Oscar Navarro: What about that thousand year egg?
• 9:17
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I'd give it a shot.
• 9:18
  Ray Comfort: Come on, that's from Singapore, wasn't it?
• 9:21
  Oscar Navarro: Ezek I think, if I was in like if you ordered a thousand year egg and wanted me to have it here on the podcast, I would not.
• 9:28
  Oscar Navarro: But if I was in a country and that was the delicacy, and someone served it to me because they were proud of the way their grandma made it, I'd eat it.
• 9:35
  Oscar Navarro: You're not a textured guy.
• 9:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm one of all of a guy to guy.
• 9:39
  Emeal Zwayne: There are some things I know for sure you wouldn't try.
• 9:41
  Emeal Zwayne: I can't even mention some of the things I've heard of we had great food.
• 9:45
  Ray Comfort: When we went to Europe, we had 13 countries and 13 German restaurants and Austrian.
• 9:48
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, we did have.
• 9:51
  Emeal Zwayne: German restaurants.
• 9:51
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know what they call it Schnitzels yeah, they were, oh no, here we go.
• 9:57
  Oscar Navarro: When I was in Singapore, they've got the hawker squares, which is just street vendors, and my strategy was just to find the longest line of locals, get in it and order whatever everyone else was having.
• 10:10
  Oscar Navarro: And I can't tell you what I ate because I have no idea what it was, but it was delicious.
• 10:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, something should not be eaten.
• 10:17
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't get the whole lingua tongs so good.
• 10:20
  Emeal Zwayne: I did try sheep brains.
• 10:23
  Ray Comfort: once I tried.
• 10:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Sheep brains, did you really yeah?
• 10:26
  Mark Spence: I wasn't told afterwards what it was and it upset me.
• 10:29
  Ray Comfort: I just went and stood on the lawn.
• 10:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you eat grass, ray?
• 10:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but you know frog legs.
• 10:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Would you eat frog legs?
• 10:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I've had them.
• 10:38
  Emeal Zwayne: They're delicious.
• 10:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I had them.
• 10:39
  Emeal Zwayne: They were really good.
• 10:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I had them in Mississippi.
• 10:43
  Emeal Zwayne: But, ray, I would love for you to honestly sit down and let me give you real sushi.
• 10:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I ain't sushi in Japan with Mac.
• 10:50
  Ray Comfort: I could try sushi California rolls.
• 10:51
  Ray Comfort: I don't have my lady food.
• 10:53
  Ray Comfort: That'd be fine Lady food.
• 10:56
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm serious, ray Sushi is magical.
• 10:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, give me a double, double.
• 10:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know, Amen I appreciate it.
• 11:02
  Oscar Navarro: Double double sushi, Oscar.
• 11:03
  Oscar Navarro: You like sushi?
• 11:03
  Oscar Navarro: I love sushi.
• 11:03
  Oscar Navarro: What are you talking about?
• 11:04
  Oscar Navarro: But he said double double.
• 11:06
  Emeal Zwayne: That is pretty glorious.
• 11:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, why is it in and out fast food place?
• 11:10
  Emeal Zwayne: We've talked.
• 11:11
  Emeal Zwayne: You did a video on it.
• 11:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Chef's World Are you an opera singer?
• 11:15
  Emeal Zwayne: We're doing an opera singer.
• 11:16
  Ray Comfort: We're doing an opera singer.
• 11:18
  Oscar Navarro: Easy's gone into this new thing where every time he wants to make a point he like extends his hand.
• 11:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Or are you guys just realizing it?
• 11:24
  Ray Comfort: It's very profound.
• 11:25
  Ray Comfort: It's like an opera.
• 11:26
  Emeal Zwayne: singer he's like an Egyptian pharaoh.
• 11:29
  Emeal Zwayne: He's my hero here, you.
• 11:30
  Emeal Zwayne: He's my Arab roots, but Royal renowned chefs just go crazy about in and out.
• 11:35
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's crazy, it's glorious.
• 11:36
  Emeal Zwayne: It's glorious.
• 11:37
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, coming out about in and out.
• 11:38
  Ray Comfort: Wait, we haven't released it, no.
• 11:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's gonna be a good one.
• 11:42
  Ray Comfort: It's in, but it hasn't come out.
• 11:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, all right, you guys talk too much.
• 11:45
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from gun dude, gun dude, gun DOOD.
• 11:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Faithful friends.
• 11:53
  Emeal Zwayne: You four Christian men have such powerful friendships.
• 11:56
  Emeal Zwayne: I dearly admire the way your faith in Jesus Christ is woven into everything you do, especially the friendships you have with each other.
• 12:02
  Emeal Zwayne: I have a new friend, a Christ filled pastor, that has a special heart for the Lord, and I love the way we kid around with each other, like you guys do.
• 12:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for your inspiration and Christian clarity.
• 12:14
  Emeal Zwayne: I pray that I continue to grow in my faith the way each of you have.
• 12:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Easy See, I was got a new audio.
• 12:23
  Emeal Zwayne: There's one without me.
• 12:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, dude.
• 12:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, gun dude, gun dude.
• 12:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar doesn't want to say the word gun, it's politically incorrect Gun dude.
• 12:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, brother.
• 12:34
  Emeal Zwayne: That means a lot to us and hey, we do have real friendships, man, what a joy.
• 12:39
  Emeal Zwayne: The prodding of one another is all a part of that, and you can only prod really good.
• 12:46
  Mark Spence: I have a scripture for easy.
• 12:47
  Mark Spence: When it comes to me, it's John 1513.
• 12:49
  Oscar Navarro: Which is.
• 12:50
  Mark Spence: There's no greater love than this than when it laid down his life for his friends.
• 12:53
  Mark Spence: I just want to remember that if I'm a member in danger, the thing is is I'm my own friend, so I lay my life down for me.
• 13:02
  Emeal Zwayne: All right.
• 13:03
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• 13:11
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• 13:43
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• 13:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember we filmed it at that coffee shop.
• 13:47
  Ray Comfort: Here we go again Coffee shop oh coffee shop.
• 13:50
  Ray Comfort: I have a question for Ray.
• 13:52
  Ray Comfort: Was Oscar not with us when we were in?
• 13:54
  Emeal Zwayne: that coffee shop?
• 13:55
  Emeal Zwayne: No, we don't take Oscar to coffee shops.
• 13:57
  Ray Comfort: Did you just crush us Because?
• 13:59
  Oscar Navarro: it sounds like you said I was dead.
• 14:00
  Oscar Navarro: Am I even doing that the right way?
• 14:02
  Oscar Navarro: Would you call an underwater dog?
• 14:07
  Ray Comfort: I'm no one in dogs.
• 14:10
  Oscar Navarro: A subwoofer.
• 14:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, I hate that.
• 14:16
  Emeal Zwayne: I laugh at your jokes but I do, even though they're not yours.
• 14:20
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• 14:21
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• 14:27
  Emeal Zwayne: All right guys ready to jump into this one?
• 14:33
  Oscar Navarro: Sin partiality.
• 14:37
  Ray Comfort: Do we have the title?
• 14:38
  Emeal Zwayne: How to avoid the sin of partiality.
• 14:44
  Mark Spence: Are you guys?
• 14:45
  Emeal Zwayne: partial people.
• 14:46
  Oscar Navarro: Unfortunately.
• 14:49
  Mark Spence: I part down the side, my brother parts right down the middle.
• 14:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you guys ever do that, by the way, as kids part down the middle?
• 14:56
  Emeal Zwayne: No, I couldn't.
• 14:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Calyx, oh Calyx, where does that come from?
• 15:01
  Emeal Zwayne: It's from New Zealand.
• 15:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Easy cow licks because cows would lick you on the head.
• 15:08
  Ray Comfort: Everyone has a natural part though, don't they?
• 15:10
  Ray Comfort: I don't know, do we Does, eddie, I don't see a part.
• 15:13
  Ray Comfort: Please, please.
• 15:15
  Emeal Zwayne: I actually called Eddie to apologize.
• 15:17
  Ray Comfort: I called Eddie to apologize the other day because we mentioned his lack of hair and he didn't answer, so I didn't apologize.
• 15:22
  Ray Comfort: Wait, which?
• 15:24
  Mark Spence: Eddie?
• 15:24
  Mark Spence: Are you referring to?
• 15:24
  Mark Spence: Eddie?
• 15:25
  Mark Spence: Are you referring to he was getting a haircut?
• 15:26
  Mark Spence: I'm not referring to.
• 15:28
  Oscar Navarro: Listen, I think sin, partiality is a major struggle.
• 15:32
  Oscar Navarro: It's a major struggle for all of us and there's definitely different ways in which we can show partiality.
• 15:37
  Oscar Navarro: Social theory has agreed with the scriptures and that it shows that it is in our natural, fallen ways that we want to differentiate ourselves from other people.
• 15:53
  Oscar Navarro: It's a way human beings be able to find their tribe and feel safe.
• 15:58
  Oscar Navarro: We are tribalistic in nature.
• 16:00
  Oscar Navarro: In other words, when we can differentiate ourselves versus other people, that could be our social status, whether it's our wealth or our interests, our politics, our race, our morality, views of morality, our knowledge or wisdom.
• 16:15
  Oscar Navarro: Anytime we use those kind of things to separate us from other people, to know the difference between me and my other neighbor, what ends up inevitably happening is it becomes us versus them.
• 16:28
  Oscar Navarro: In order for me to feel safe, I need to know who the outsider is.
• 16:32
  Oscar Navarro: I need to know who the person who's not safe is.
• 16:35
  Oscar Navarro: This is the sin of partiality, is to show difference towards others.
• 16:41
  Oscar Navarro: I think it's interesting that the first sin of partiality was a moral, religious sin.
• 16:49
  Oscar Navarro: It was Adam in the garden.
• 16:52
  Oscar Navarro: When he says it is this woman that you gave me.
• 16:56
  Oscar Navarro: You see what he did in that moment.
• 16:57
  Oscar Navarro: He said I'm with you, god.
• 16:59
  Oscar Navarro: She's against us.
• 17:00
  Oscar Navarro: It's her fault, but I'm safe with you.
• 17:03
  Oscar Navarro: Right?
• 17:03
  Oscar Navarro: And I think that we show this same partiality all the time.
• 17:08
  Oscar Navarro: And I read this book years ago and it was this woman talking about her marriage and she talked about.
• 17:13
  Oscar Navarro: She said every time we draw the line between us and others, jesus is always on the other side of it.
• 17:21
  Oscar Navarro: Wow.
• 17:24
  Emeal Zwayne: That's interesting, oscar.
• 17:25
  Emeal Zwayne: I've never thought of it from that perspective.
• 17:28
  Emeal Zwayne: The partiality of Adam with his wife and yeah, god, I'm on your side, it's her.
• 17:36
  Ray Comfort: It could have been another aspect of that, depending on where you put the emphasis.
• 17:39
  Ray Comfort: It's the woman that you gave me, because people tend to blame God when things go wrong.
• 17:47
  Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, you were going to say something.
• 17:50
  Ray Comfort: No, that's it.
• 17:51
  Ray Comfort: That's all I was going to say I'm done, I'm going home.
• 17:53
  Emeal Zwayne: See you later, ray.
• 17:54
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm thanking you back, seratons, that's not seratons.
• 17:56
  Ray Comfort: Seratons, seratons, you never lived that down.
• 17:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, by the way, I really I like your sweater.
• 18:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you.
• 18:03
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, it'll be raised in a few years.
• 18:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Does it come in any other size than extra, extra small, and do they?
• 18:09
  Ray Comfort: make them.
• 18:10
  Ray Comfort: I'm just extra, extra big.
• 18:11
  Ray Comfort: Do they make them for men?
• 18:12
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, no, they don't.
• 18:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I think it's nice.
• 18:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Partiality is along with what we talked about last time bitterness.
• 18:19
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a real destructive sin and I think that it's one of those sins that is kind of a default sin.
• 18:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I think we all default toward partiality, as Oscar alluded to, in our sinful nature.
• 18:31
  Ray Comfort: Can you define it, just in case we haven't got a definition.
• 18:34
  Mark Spence: Yeah.
• 18:34
  Mark Spence: Does it fall into the same category as favoritism?
• 18:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, yes, yeah, I think they would be synonymous, and I think, though, that partiality would have a nuance to it, that it's tied in with this sort of desire to serve ourselves in a selfish way because of our association with other people, whether it's I like how this makes me feel to be this person's friend, or I like what this will give me.
• 19:03
  Emeal Zwayne: If I treat this person that way.
• 19:06
  Emeal Zwayne: It's wicked, because it can come across like love but be anything but that.
• 19:12
  Emeal Zwayne: For example, I'm spending time with someone and treating them in a way that I wouldn't treat someone else that I call my friend, and I'm talking about having friends that are closer than others.
• 19:23
  Emeal Zwayne: We build bonds, and that's fine, but I'm talking about certain treatments that fall under the rubric of love but that we withhold because we want to do them toward this person, because of the benefits we get, or maybe their social status, and then associating with them.
• 19:43
  Emeal Zwayne: That helps our status or it makes us feel more important, or whatever.
• 19:48
  Ray Comfort: It's very good to spend time with a lowly.
• 19:50
  Ray Comfort: That's why I love spending time with you guys.
• 19:52
  Emeal Zwayne: You're welcome Because it makes you feel good.
• 19:54
  Emeal Zwayne: So you're partial to us because we're lowly so you can feel good about yourself.
• 19:58
  Ray Comfort: I wrap you up in a partial yeah.
• 20:02
  Emeal Zwayne: But there's so many facets to partiality.
• 20:04
  Emeal Zwayne: There's that partiality that James highlights, and James 2.1-4.
• 20:10
  Emeal Zwayne: My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality.
• 20:15
  Emeal Zwayne: For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings and find apparel, and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him you sit here in a good place and say to the poor man you stand there or sit here at my footstool, have you not shown partiality among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
• 20:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, that to me is one of the most grievous elements of partiality within the church, among God's people being saints differently because of their, their social status or their music.
• 20:56
  Ray Comfort: So easy to do.
• 20:57
  Ray Comfort: You know, a guy comes in with gold chains and gold all over and you say here, mr Tithe, I mean sir, because he's going to help you, church, financially.
• 21:06
  Ray Comfort: So you've got to pull yourself back and say I fear God, I'm going to not show partiality.
• 21:13
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, you know what?
• 21:14
  Oscar Navarro: Let me actually think this is something that's incredible that Ray does.
• 21:16
  Oscar Navarro: And for our listeners who don't know, we are a nonprofit.
• 21:19
  Oscar Navarro: We exist because faithful partners.
• 21:22
  Oscar Navarro: Literally every day we receive gifts from faithful partners who want to see more and more Christians around the world be inspired and fulfilling the Great Commission, and so thank you to our ministry partners.
• 21:31
  Oscar Navarro: They make this podcast possible.
• 21:34
  Oscar Navarro: I bring all that up to say that, as I speak with a lot of other nonprofits, they'll tell me something like oh yeah, our founder, we give him anybody who gives $10,000 or more.
• 21:45
  Oscar Navarro: He'll give them a call and tell them thank you.
• 21:47
  Oscar Navarro: And one of the things I love about you, ray, is I go into the notes and I will find somebody that gave $50, $10.
• 21:55
  Oscar Navarro: Like I've seen notes from you that you just you call them to say thank you.
• 22:00
  Oscar Navarro: Just the other day you hopped on a FaceTime call with me for a young man who's not given anything to the ministry, just to encourage him, and so I just want to say that I think that you represent so well not showing partiality.
• 22:14
  Oscar Navarro: If you have the time and you're aware, you will make the call and I'm super thankful for that.
• 22:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's kind of it.
• 22:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, it's such a great example.
• 22:23
  Ray Comfort: But it's so easy to do.
• 22:24
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, just make a call to somebody.
• 22:26
  Ray Comfort: It's no big deal.
• 22:27
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, and it's such a I get so much out of it.
• 22:30
  Emeal Zwayne: And it means so much to people they are being shown the fact that they're appreciated.
• 22:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I get hung up on a lot, do you?
• 22:39
  Ray Comfort: Oh well, they don't they think it's recording or something?
• 22:41
  Ray Comfort: Seriously, yeah, I have to say hi, is that Eric?
• 22:47
  Mark Spence: And I have to call back and say it's very covered here.
• 22:49
  Ray Comfort: I'm just calling.
• 22:50
  Ray Comfort: Oh, I thought you were a telemarketer.
• 22:51
  Ray Comfort: It's really funny.
• 22:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's really really funny.
• 22:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so, mark, you know I've talked to pastors before that have had the dilemma of someone wanting to give them a gift, you know, or to bless them with a car, or whatever.
• 23:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Some pastors, by policy, just don't take it.
• 23:10
  Emeal Zwayne: They don't do that.
• 23:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Send them my way.
• 23:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I like that man from the moment I met him but Mark there are some that you know, maybe even someone's going to give to the church or whatever.
• 23:21
  Emeal Zwayne: But I heard one pastor say that he he makes it clear to them.
• 23:25
  Emeal Zwayne: You understand that I'm not going to treat you any differently.
• 23:29
  Emeal Zwayne: In other words, if they're sin in your life, if we have to excommunicate you, if I have to, I'm going to do it.
• 23:34
  Emeal Zwayne: That's important, right?
• 23:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean that pastors, leaders, are impartial, and I've heard one of the best ways to do that is for the pastor to never deal with the giving.
• 23:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and I love that.
• 23:48
  Mark Spence: Most pastors that I've met in churches that they oversee that they have no idea.
• 23:52
  Mark Spence: Who gives no clue whatsoever on who gives.
• 23:55
  Mark Spence: Now, when you have other deacons or elders perhaps I don't know what the structure is in the ecclesiology of the way the churches run, you know, but it is a very good idea to, as quickly as you possibly can, to raise up deacons who can serve at the table, so the pastors and the elders, the bishops, the overseers, they can give themselves over to the study and the proclamation, the preaching of God's word.
• 24:18
  Mark Spence: Study, prepare, preach, right.
• 24:21
  Mark Spence: That's the idea.
• 24:22
  Mark Spence: Let me take care of the sheep, you take care of the running of the building, let me love on the sheep to the best of my ability, without showing the partiality, and you let us know what we have inside the finances so that we can make these decisions together when possible.
• 24:40
  Ray Comfort: I was thinking about the amount of transfiguration when there was a move of God, when God appeared or the bright light.
• 24:45
  Ray Comfort: And for the disciples, peter suggested they start a building program, which is what tends to happen.
• 24:51
  Ray Comfort: That's right.
• 24:52
  Ray Comfort: It tends to happen when there's a move of God and I've seen it happen.
• 24:55
  Ray Comfort: Back in New Zealand the church had a great move and someone says let's have a bigger building.
• 24:59
  Ray Comfort: So they decided to and that destroyed everything.
• 25:01
  Ray Comfort: They went into millions of dollars of debt.
• 25:04
  Ray Comfort: So the pastors got to be carefully done upset the tithers, because this whole future is.
• 25:08
  Ray Comfort: You know what the word mortgage means.
• 25:11
  Ray Comfort: It means death grip, More death gauge grip.
• 25:16
  Mark Spence: I can't with.
• 25:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Oscar Navarro: I was going to say.
• 25:20
  Oscar Navarro: I think partiality creeps its way into all of our lives.
• 25:23
  Oscar Navarro: For pastors and people in ministry, you can show partiality towards the people who give, which is a terrible thing, as you pointed out.
• 25:31
  Oscar Navarro: But there's other ways we show partiality, as I mentioned before social status or even politics.
• 25:38
  Oscar Navarro: I've noticed lately that there's an influx.
• 25:41
  Oscar Navarro: It's so interesting to me because there's an influx of people starting to go to church and a lot of these individuals what they're really looking for is for a church to spiritualize their political disposition.
• 25:53
  Oscar Navarro: So when these non-believers come to church because they agree with the politics of the pastor, the pastor's like man.
• 25:59
  Oscar Navarro: That guy's a faithful brother, but there's actually no self-affect work there, right, but immediately they're elevated in status there because they have money, they're immediately put on some board, like I've seen it happen over and over and over again.
• 26:13
  Oscar Navarro: There's partiality is shown because of the money and the way someone votes rather than thinking to themselves wait a minute, is this person a Christian?
• 26:21
  Oscar Navarro: Should we pursue them or are we just going to assume because they're voting the right way and giving the right amount, they're in, they're one of us.
• 26:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, partiality can be demonstrated too in other ways that we don't think about.
• 26:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Like with the lost, we can be partial in wanting to share the gospel with someone who looks more down and out than another person, or someone who looks less intimidating than another person.
• 26:46
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a form of partiality 100%.
• 26:48
  Emeal Zwayne: They're both lost.
• 26:49
  Emeal Zwayne: They're both in danger of God's judgment.
• 26:50
  Ray Comfort: I battle that every day.
• 26:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Really.
• 26:52
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, when I go to local college I look at a student and think that guy's not sharp.
• 26:56
  Ray Comfort: He looks really dull.
• 26:57
  Ray Comfort: It's going to be the most pathetic interview I've ever had.
• 26:59
  Ray Comfort: Go out and say, hey, you're doing things after life and he's sharp and it's really good, and I think, man, I hate the way I make I sum up people with my eyes rather than looking at how much we can't do.
• 27:10
  Emeal Zwayne: But, ray, you are so partial to people with funky hair.
• 27:14
  Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, that's true, that's totally different.
• 27:17
  Emeal Zwayne: I remember one time we were in Hollywood, we had an academy and we were eating and I felt Ray disappears and my brain already concluded what it was.
• 27:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I look and I see this big, huge head of hair walking by the window.
• 27:30
  Emeal Zwayne: I do an interview with you, right?
• 27:34
  Oscar Navarro: now.
• 27:34
  Oscar Navarro: What's funny is, whenever I'm out and about and I see somebody with some wild hair, that's the first thing that comes up.
• 27:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm like Ray would love to interview that guy.
• 27:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh hoax, big afros.
• 27:42
  Ray Comfort: Absolutely.
• 27:43
  Ray Comfort: I mean giant purple hair, yeah Big dreadlocks.
• 27:47
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 27:48
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean Ray's on it.
• 27:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah so you're partial, I'm partial to people I do.
• 27:52
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 27:56
  Emeal Zwayne: But you know I do hate partiality.
• 27:58
  Oscar Navarro: I know it's a saying Are you partial to partiality?
• 28:01
  Emeal Zwayne: I am in fact.
• 28:02
  Emeal Zwayne: So you got a problem with hatred, mucho hatredo, but you know it's a wicked sin man and I went over Real quick, I was gonna say I almost feel like I wish sometimes I could go around and lie functioning in certain aspects blindfolded, like if a preacher preached blindfolded right, doesn't know who's in the congregation.
• 28:24
  Emeal Zwayne: No one can accuse them of you are preaching at me and this or that or you know.
• 28:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean you think of these pastors sometimes that get like really famous politicians or celebrities in their congregation.
• 28:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Are they going to compromise a message?
• 28:35
  Ray Comfort: I had a friend that did that.
• 28:36
  Ray Comfort: That compromised Richard Gunther.
• 28:38
  Ray Comfort: No, he put a paper bag over his head and preached to a crown Stop.
• 28:42
  Ray Comfort: No, I'm not kidding why?
• 28:43
  Ray Comfort: Just to illustrate the blindness of sinners.
• 28:45
  Emeal Zwayne: They can't see what's going on.
• 28:48
  Ray Comfort: Did he ever take it off?
• 28:49
  Ray Comfort: Yes, he did, funny guy yeah.
• 28:53
  Mark Spence: Mark.
• 28:53
  Mark Spence: We continually try to make it our aim to preach our heart out, whether or not there's 10,000 people in attendance or 10 people in attendance.
• 29:00
  Ray Comfort: Mark, you do that, don't you?
• 29:01
  Ray Comfort: Yeah?
• 29:01
  Mark Spence: I think we all do that right.
• 29:03
  Mark Spence: We just pour our hearts out, regardless of the attendance.
• 29:06
  Mark Spence: I mean, jesus could have filled up the steady eye of the world with thousands and thousands of people, but he chose rather to pour into 12 people, knowing that one of them was gonna betray him.
• 29:15
  Mark Spence: It's interesting to note we have to bring a distinction here that when we start talking about partiality, we don't want to fall into an area where we're shown partiality towards our kids, but we also, at the same time, we want to demonstrate that there's a folly of fairness in this world, because this world is not fair.
• 29:33
  Mark Spence: So say, if I go on a road trip and I have, for example, say I have two kids, I don't need to bring back two gifts because I have two kids.
• 29:41
  Mark Spence: I could bring back two gifts for the same child and I could have it as a lesson for my kids.
• 29:47
  Mark Spence: Because what happens is when we raise our kids up to think that life is fair, when they grow up they become socialistic in their behavior towards society.
• 29:57
  Mark Spence: And I say well, my neighbor has four cars, I don't have any cars.
• 30:00
  Mark Spence: Well then, my neighbor must give me one of their cars.
• 30:03
  Mark Spence: That would be fair.
• 30:03
  Mark Spence: Well, actually it would be fair if they gave me two of their cars, right?
• 30:07
  Mark Spence: There's no partiality that is going on here, because there's just a folly of just being fair.
• 30:13
  Mark Spence: So there's a fine line in just studying your kids, studying the environment, your situation that you're in, and not showing partiality, but there's just lessons to be learned.
• 30:24
  Oscar Navarro: See, that's why we're a very capitalistic family and we're super into social Darwinism, so we make one meal for dinner and then, it's survival of the fittest man, whoever gets it first.
• 30:35
  Emeal Zwayne: yeah, yeah, mark, that's really interesting and I'm thinking through that because we have talked to our kids about that.
• 30:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Like you may get a relative that may help out with a car, let's say for a kid, or whatever.
• 30:48
  Emeal Zwayne: There's this immediate mindset of obligation.
• 30:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, of course they're going to help me.
• 30:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Absolutely not that was grace and kindness that they did.
• 30:56
  Emeal Zwayne: That you never expect.
• 30:57
  Emeal Zwayne: We talk about that, about birthdays.
• 30:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh well, so-and-so is going to get me this because they got so-and-so, that it's like we have to be careful of that, you know.
• 31:04
  Emeal Zwayne: But I do want to tease that out in my mind and think, though that is sensitive right with our kids, though, because I could see it being done to teach a lesson.
• 31:12
  Emeal Zwayne: But if it's drawn out too far, right, it can get to where maybe someone is showing more affection to a child and not to the other, you know, because it is my aim to try to be as fair as possible with my kids.
• 31:25
  Emeal Zwayne: But I think there's a way to teach them where, hey, sometimes it may not work out that way, life doesn't always work out that way.
• 31:31
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm not intentionally being partial, you know, I'm not intentionally, but sometimes it may be forgetfulness or maybe that this like perfect point, mark, this sibling has a certain personality, so I saw this gift and I bought it for them.
• 31:44
  Emeal Zwayne: You know I can't go now.
• 31:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, now I have to buy one for everyone.
• 31:47
  Emeal Zwayne: We need to be understanding.
• 31:48
  Emeal Zwayne: There may be a time I may do that for you, sweetheart.
• 31:50
  Emeal Zwayne: You know and You're talking to me Me.
• 31:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Sweetheart.
• 31:54
  Oscar Navarro: Should we leave the room, sweetheart?
• 31:56
  Ray Comfort: I think the antistasis of partiality is seen in the Good Samaritan story.
• 32:00
  Ray Comfort: There was no partiality on his own prejudice, it was just someone in need.
• 32:05
  Ray Comfort: I'm going to take care of them, and that's what we should be like Treat others as heaven treat us.
• 32:10
  Oscar Navarro: Well, and that's actually a really good point, because I think that Christians we as Christians have the tendency to begin to forget that we receive grace and we start to believe that we achieve grace and so we assume like, oh well, I've figured out that there is a God and you, stupid fool, you don't realize that there isn't a God.
• 32:30
  Oscar Navarro: I have partiality because I have figured, my wisdom has led me to the understanding that there is a God, or my understanding of morals and ethics in this world makes me better than you or you know.
• 32:41
  Oscar Navarro: Whatever the case is like my moral attributes, my religious practices, these are the things that have allowed me to achieve salvation.
• 32:49
  Oscar Navarro: We actually start to believe that we forget that we've been shown grace, that we don't achieve it, we receive it, and when we keep our eye on that, it is very difficult to show partiality.
• 33:02
  Oscar Navarro: In another book I read, she said it like this what's the difference between a Christian and a non-Christian?
• 33:09
  Oscar Navarro: The Christian is someone who knows she's no different from anyone else.
• 33:14
  Oscar Navarro: Wow, that's good.
• 33:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and you know, speaking of kids, you know we see in the Old Testament the sin of partiality and the impact that it had.
• 33:22
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean Genesis 25-28, now.
• 33:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Isaac loved Esau, but he had it because he had a taste for game.
• 33:28
  Emeal Zwayne: But Rebecca loved Jacob.
• 33:29
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, how sad to be hearing that about someone's children, you know.
• 33:34
  Ray Comfort: And Joseph's dead Jacob same thing.
• 33:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, genesis 37-3-4.
• 33:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Now, israel loved Joseph more than all his children because he was a son of his old age.
• 33:44
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, the first one is because he had a taste for game.
• 33:47
  Emeal Zwayne: The other one is because he was a son of his old age Also.
• 33:50
  Emeal Zwayne: He made him a tunic of many colors.
• 33:52
  Emeal Zwayne: And when his brothers saw that their father loved him more than all his brothers, they hated him and could not speak peaceably to him.
• 33:59
  Ray Comfort: Was that tunic a sign of that he was getting the inheritance from his father?
• 34:03
  Ray Comfort: I've read that somewhere.
• 34:05
  Emeal Zwayne: I've.
• 34:05
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I thought it was because he had two necks.
• 34:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Two necks.
• 34:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's sick.
• 34:10
  Emeal Zwayne: But I've heard that it was kind of a sign of authority, that he was given authority over his brothers, you know, and yet he was the youngest.
• 34:19
  Emeal Zwayne: But there is a sin of exerting more focused time energy toward one child over the other and it's very harmful and destructive.
• 34:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Now they're responsible for their jealousy, obviously, and their wicked actions that led to murder.
• 34:37
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, from their perspective, what they thought they were killing their brother at one point.
• 34:41
  Emeal Zwayne: But we can still create the atmosphere where we make it more difficult for people to do what they should do, right.
• 34:48
  Ray Comfort: Speaking of that, have we ever done a podcast on Joseph?
• 34:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I think so.
• 34:54
  Ray Comfort: I just thought I'd mention it.
• 34:56
  Ray Comfort: It's very memorable.
• 34:57
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, clearly I loved it.
• 34:58
  Oscar Navarro: It was so good.
• 34:59
  Mark Spence: So what are some practical steps that we can take to avoid the sin of partiality?
• 35:03
  Mark Spence: Let's recognize it as it is.
• 35:04
  Mark Spence: You have a situation.
• 35:06
  Mark Spence: We are showing partiality.
• 35:08
  Mark Spence: Maybe you recognize it in yourself or in somebody else.
• 35:10
  Mark Spence: What steps do we now take to make things right?
• 35:14
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, Side note before we go there.
• 35:17
  Oscar Navarro: You reminded me of this and I think this is funny.
• 35:19
  Oscar Navarro: I also think I've shared this before, but in case I haven't at one point, so I have it's myself.
• 35:24
  Oscar Navarro: And then I have triplet sisters that are 13 years younger than me, and they are the pride and joy of my mom's heart, and one day, one day we're at Christmas.
• 35:33
  Oscar Navarro: Well, that makes sense.
• 35:36
  Oscar Navarro: My sister goes like mom.
• 35:37
  Oscar Navarro: Why is your?
• 35:38
  Oscar Navarro: Her social media was like mom of three, proud mom of three, or something like that.
• 35:43
  Oscar Navarro: She's like you have four kids.
• 35:46
  Oscar Navarro: She's like, no, I know, but I just wanted.
• 35:48
  Oscar Navarro: I just wanted everyone to know that I've got three beautiful daughters.
• 35:51
  Oscar Navarro: And we're like, yeah, but you have four kids.
• 35:54
  Oscar Navarro: She's like, no, no, but it's not like that.
• 35:56
  Oscar Navarro: I just really was proud of my three girls and we're like, yeah, but you have four kids.
• 36:02
  Oscar Navarro: So, anyways, I'm deeply moved by your guys'.
• 36:06
  Ray Comfort: We absolutely love you, Oscar.
• 36:07
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I appreciate you.
• 36:10
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, how do we avoid?
• 36:11
  Oscar Navarro: How do we recognize?
• 36:12
  Oscar Navarro: First, I think the first thing to do is to I've got two good friends on the podcast.
• 36:16
  Oscar Navarro: We first have to confess that even as Christians we are prone to show partiality.
• 36:26
  Oscar Navarro: Once we confess that, then we need to apply the gospel into the crevices of the darknesses of our heart and we need to realize we need to look to Jesus and we need to remind ourselves that God did not show partiality when he saved you, because if God showed partiality we'd all be in grave trouble.
• 36:46
  Oscar Navarro: The only one that deserves to be in the face of his glory is his one and only son, jesus Christ.
• 36:52
  Oscar Navarro: But because he is gracious, he shows no partiality.
• 36:58
  Emeal Zwayne: But, mark, that's a good question and I'm excited to get practical on this.
• 37:02
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, I think first we look at scripture 1 Timothy 521,.
• 37:05
  Emeal Zwayne: I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and the elect angels, that you observe these things without prejudice, doing nothing with partiality.
• 37:12
  Emeal Zwayne: You know that is the general call to us as God's people, is that we make sure we're proactive in that regard.
• 37:19
  Emeal Zwayne: I want to say first that we have to be careful, though, that we don't call partiality that which is not partiality.
• 37:27
  Emeal Zwayne: It's not partiality in a negative sense.
• 37:30
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, you might say technically, you're being partial in that regard, but just like we talk about killing right, there's righteous, justifiable killing and there's murder right, so there is a partiality that would not fall under the sinful type of partiality.
• 37:43
  Emeal Zwayne: It's not sinfully partial to say this brother gives really good wisdom and counsel.
• 37:49
  Emeal Zwayne: I have many people I can get counsel from, but I've sense his counsel is typically the best.
• 37:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm going to him.
• 37:54
  Emeal Zwayne: You know it's not partial.
• 37:56
  Emeal Zwayne: You have a ball game.
• 37:56
  Mark Spence: You have a pick up basketball game.
• 37:59
  Mark Spence: You look over and you see Oscar there.
• 38:02
  Emeal Zwayne: And you don't pick him and you go around in the next round.
• 38:04
  Mark Spence: And you pick Oscar over picking the guy that doesn't look like he knows how to play or he didn't make a layup during practice.
• 38:10
  Mark Spence: There's nothing wrong intrinsically evil, about picking somebody who you want to be on your team to have a good team, because I can see that people just swing on the other side of the channel right Exactly.
• 38:21
  Mark Spence: Well then, I'm just going to do the exact opposite of everything I think that I want to do.
• 38:24
  Mark Spence: I love chocolate.
• 38:25
  Mark Spence: I'm not going to pick chocolate, I'm going to eat.
• 38:27
  Mark Spence: I can't do it because that's what I really wanted.
• 38:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 38:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Or even with our kids.
• 38:30
  Emeal Zwayne: We have an errand to run and one of our children is competent in that or has the strength to do that.
• 38:35
  Emeal Zwayne: They're older, they're bigger.
• 38:36
  Emeal Zwayne: We take them, and this applies to so many things.
• 38:39
  Emeal Zwayne: But honestly, I think it falls under doing specific things that fall in line with general courtesy, a love, kindness that we would do overtly for someone, or just period for someone that we wouldn't do for someone else, and I think that can take on so many other forms and I think it could happen with, again, courtesy.
• 39:07
  Emeal Zwayne: For example, someone wants to share something with you that they're going through.
• 39:12
  Emeal Zwayne: You're in a public place and this person just doesn't seem very focused, or maybe intelligent, or maybe they have a disability, and you just kind of like, ah, get me out of here.
• 39:24
  Emeal Zwayne: And then someone else comes up and they seem to be more in keeping with those other things I mentioned and you're like, oh yeah, and you'll fully give them your time and your focus, and that's partiality.
• 39:34
  Emeal Zwayne: This is a human being.
• 39:36
  Emeal Zwayne: They want to talk to you and now, because you don't like the way they make you feel or you don't sense they're worth your time, that is an example of partiality.
• 39:48
  Oscar Navarro: Or someone walks into your church and they don't look like you, dress like you, talk like you, and your immediate assumption is they're not as close to God as you.
• 39:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Right.
• 39:59
  Oscar Navarro: So you disregard them as an outsider, but you simply don't know what the Lord is doing in that person's life.
• 40:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, ray.
• 40:08
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, when we read the passage in James, he talked about judging like with partiality.
• 40:13
  Emeal Zwayne: You're being judgmental.
• 40:15
  Emeal Zwayne: In a sense it carries with it that aspect of coming to conclusions at times about people.
• 40:21
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I remember and I'll never forget this.
• 40:23
  Ray Comfort: I better remember it right now.
• 40:25
  Mark Spence: I was gonna say that.
• 40:27
  Ray Comfort: Huntington Beach.
• 40:27
  Ray Comfort: Once I went up to interview a guy who's obviously non-Christian because he had tattoos all over his face, all over his arms and everywhere and he had bones through his nose.
• 40:36
  Ray Comfort: Oh pastures.
• 40:37
  Ray Comfort: No, he had bones through his ears, bones through his nose, his lips were pierced and he loved the Lord Do you remember that?
• 40:43
  Ray Comfort: Yes, I do, and it blew me away.
• 40:45
  Ray Comfort: I question you're reading your Bible?
• 40:47
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, are you?
• 40:49
  Ray Comfort: Oh dear.
• 40:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Because you're right.
• 40:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Your mind is telling you, no, this can't be.
• 40:57
  Ray Comfort: But and that's evil.
• 40:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know, and so it's.
• 41:01
  Emeal Zwayne: But it's hard to fight against that because we have these prejudices that are lodged in our minds and so we're just coming to these conclusions and we just have to fight against that.
• 41:09
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, mark, what do you do in times when you feel that bias rising in your heart and you're prone to be partial?
• 41:17
  Emeal Zwayne: How do you fight it?
• 41:18
  Mark Spence: Well, I think being slow to speak just quick to listen when somebody comes to me, I typically will offer a prayer to the Lord.
• 41:25
  Mark Spence: Just simply place your spirit between us.
• 41:27
  Mark Spence: You know, if there's something you want to say to me, something you want to say to them, I'm open.
• 41:31
  Mark Spence: I'm open to review correction.
• 41:33
  Mark Spence: Whatever you want to do, it's being humble.
• 41:36
  Mark Spence: You know, in the midst of that, you know treating them better than yourself, that you don't deserve to be in a conversation with them.
• 41:42
  Mark Spence: I often think of the mortality of people and what if this is the last conversation that they'll actually have with someone.
• 41:50
  Mark Spence: And I kind of had somewhat of a situation like that with an individual when I was done speaking at a church.
• 41:54
  Mark Spence: When I was done speaking with them, he went and committed suicide and it really weighed heavy on me when that had taken place.
• 42:02
  Mark Spence: So when I am speaking at a church, when I am with somebody and maybe they're pouring their heart out to me, I tend to give them a lot more time than I would see maybe another person do, because you know who's to say that I'm not just that last person or they're just a place.
• 42:20
  Mark Spence: They're in a place of desperation.
• 42:22
  Mark Spence: We just don't know what somebody is going through.
• 42:25
  Mark Spence: So I experienced that several years ago in order to get me, I think, in a good headspace, to not be in a hurry to go anywhere.
• 42:33
  Mark Spence: I don't like hanging out in green rooms.
• 42:35
  Mark Spence: You know to get away from people, unless there's some really good food in there and then I'll be able to get it.
• 42:40
  Mark Spence: But that's kind of where my head goes.
• 42:43
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, there's this one pastor that I've spoken.
• 42:46
  Emeal Zwayne: I've spoken to as a church a lot and I've gone to some of his services and I'm blown away with how so present he is with every person that comes up to him after the service and a lot of times there's a line of people and he sometimes he's going 10 minutes and he's not, like you know, looking around, looking at his watch.
• 43:05
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean he is fully there and I've told him this.
• 43:08
  Emeal Zwayne: I said this blows me away.
• 43:10
  Emeal Zwayne: You're present with your people and that's impartiality you know.
• 43:14
  Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, what about with you?
• 43:17
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean in terms of what's wrong with you.
• 43:19
  Oscar Navarro: Ray yeah, in terms of.
• 43:22
  Ray Comfort: What are you going to ask me?
• 43:23
  Ray Comfort: You make me nervous.
• 43:24
  Emeal Zwayne: No, but in terms of that temptation, you know sometimes to be partial, that we all face, how do you find it?
• 43:32
  Ray Comfort: The love of Christ, fear of God.
• 43:34
  Ray Comfort: Know that God's watching and so don't follow your own thoughts.
• 43:38
  Ray Comfort: Just say what would Jesus do?
• 43:40
  Ray Comfort: And Jesus was never in a bad partiality.
• 43:43
  Ray Comfort: He spoke with everyone Leppers, weppers, weppers and lepers, weppers and lepers.
• 43:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oscar, would you say that what Christ taught the disciples in terms of being the last and the least and the servant of all carries with it that effect of veering away from partiality in terms of, like, I'm called to be a foot washer, I'm called to be the last and the least.
• 44:08
  Emeal Zwayne: If I'm the last and the least, then everyone is above me and I'm, in essence, they're servant.
• 44:13
  Emeal Zwayne: So I treat everyone with with that love and kindness and care and dignity.
• 44:18
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:18
  Oscar Navarro: I think that's such an important aspect to remember and that's just the thing too is because how do you show partiality towards someone when you don't think you're better than them, when you view yourself as below them rather than above them?
• 44:31
  Oscar Navarro: You cannot show partiality towards people because then you become a servant to all, and so you know, you don't gravitate towards the bombastic, the wealthy, the affluent, but rather you see people in the fringes, the outcast, the last, the least and the last become a part of your radar.
• 44:48
  Oscar Navarro: I just heard, I heard a pastor.
• 44:51
  Oscar Navarro: I went to a different church than our church this last Sunday because of scheduling conflicts, but we still wanted to worship somewhere, and the pastor was talking about how he was on vacation in Ireland.
• 45:00
  Oscar Navarro: They were just like trying to walk into this restaurant and he like saw this table at this really busy restaurant.
• 45:05
  Oscar Navarro: He ran over there and he sat down and he looks around.
• 45:08
  Oscar Navarro: He's like where's my wife?
• 45:09
  Oscar Navarro: And he's like man, if I get up and leave this table, I'm going to lose the table, but I gotta find my wife.
• 45:14
  Oscar Navarro: And so he's like, what do I do?
• 45:16
  Oscar Navarro: And so he just leave your wallet on the table.
• 45:17
  Ray Comfort: There you go, yeah.
• 45:19
  Oscar Navarro: And so he walks, 101 dumb things raised on.
• 45:21
  Oscar Navarro: So he walks outside and his wife is like on one knee talking to some homeless guy and like face to face eye contact, getting to know him, asking about his day and proposing, trying to find the right guy.
• 45:36
  Oscar Navarro: And pastor Mark Ambrose is, like you know, he wasn't even on my radar, like I didn't even, because I'm on my vacation and I am doing my thing and I deserve this moment of relaxation.
• 45:49
  Oscar Navarro: He showed partiality in that moment, but his wife stopped and he, she saw the last, the least and lost.
• 45:56
  Oscar Navarro: And that's exactly it, man.
• 45:58
  Oscar Navarro: When we don't see ourselves above others.
• 46:00
  Oscar Navarro: It's really hard to show partiality.
• 46:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah and look, there are contexts in which we naturally may gravitate towards someone.
• 46:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It can happen in friendships, it can happen in families, you know, to whatever degree?
• 46:14
  Emeal Zwayne: I think in those cases we need to push ourselves and say no.
• 46:17
  Emeal Zwayne: It is important in these contexts that with my attention, with my time, with my focus, with my deeds of love and kindness, that that I, I, don't show partiality.
• 46:30
  Emeal Zwayne: And so we have to think through those things and then push ourselves so that we don't dishonor the Lord and hurt those that are dear to us.
• 46:37
  Emeal Zwayne: You know this principle goes back to the Old Testament.
• 46:40
  Emeal Zwayne: It's foundational Liberty.
• 46:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Because, 1915, you shall do no injustice in judgment.
• 46:44
  Emeal Zwayne: You shall not be partial to the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty and righteousness.
• 46:49
  Emeal Zwayne: You shall judge your neighbor.
• 46:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Do honor me.
• 46:51
  Emeal Zwayne: 117, you shall not show partiality in judgment.
• 46:54
  Emeal Zwayne: You shall hear the small as well as the great.
• 46:55
  Emeal Zwayne: You shall not be afraid in any man's presence, for the judgment is God's the case.
• 47:01
  Emeal Zwayne: That is too hard for you, bring to me and I'll hear.
• 47:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, I love that right.
• 47:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't be.
• 47:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't be afraid of the person or just in everything, don't show partiality.
• 47:08
  Emeal Zwayne: He was wrapped it up.
• 47:09
  Emeal Zwayne: He says for Christians the ground is leveled, the foot of the cross.
• 47:12
  Emeal Zwayne: This being so, it is absurd to be partial toward anyone.
• 47:16
  Emeal Zwayne: All should be treated equally, as beings created in the image of God.
• 47:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Rich and poor should be accorded equal honor and cordiality.
• 47:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Discrimination or favoritism is spiritually irrational.
• 47:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Good for us to remember.
• 47:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Anything else to add, guys?
• 47:32
  Mark Spence: Did you guys realize I didn't change my shirt?
• 47:34
  Mark Spence: Are you partial to that shirt?
• 47:37
  Emeal Zwayne: mark On the podcast, are you?
• 47:39
  Mark Spence: partial to that shirt.
• 47:40
  Mark Spence: I've just seen how perceptive you guys are.
• 47:42
  Emeal Zwayne: It does matter, Ray, because these are being recorded and Mark is being rebellious.
• 47:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us friends.
• 47:50
  Emeal Zwayne: It's been a fun episode.
• 47:52
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• 48:11
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• 48:14
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• 48:16
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• 48:19
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