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- 0:01Speaker 1: This is taking stock with pim Box and Kathleen Hayes
- 0:05Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Caesar's Entertainment It's number three eight on
- 0:11Speaker 1: the Fortune five hundred this year. Once the fast growing
- 0:14Speaker 1: star of the gaming industry, Caesar's is now a mess.
- 0:17Speaker 1: It is the site of a battle between some very
- 0:19Speaker 1: big and powerful buyout firms and some very big and
- 0:23Speaker 1: powerful hedgephones, or the outcome of a January fifteen bankruptcy filing.
- 0:30Speaker 1: In fact, today Caesar's Entertainment Corps telling the most in
- 0:34Speaker 1: more than a year after judge ruled that it must
- 0:36Speaker 1: face bond holder lawsuits that could force it into bankruptcy.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Alongside its main operating a unit joining us now is
- 0:42Speaker 1: Stephen Church, bankruptcy reporter for Bloomberg News in Welmington, Delaware. Steve, welcome, Thanks,
- 0:47Speaker 1: good to be here. So first step, why, why why
- 0:52Speaker 1: did Caesar's Entertainment stumble so badly? And why has the
- 0:56Speaker 1: bankruptcy become such a battle. Well, they had a buy
- 1:00Speaker 1: out several years ago, I think it was two thousand
- 1:02Speaker 1: eight or so that added a lot of debt. They
- 1:06Speaker 1: took the company private and the company simply hasn't been
- 1:09Speaker 1: able to keep up with those debt payments. Over the years,
- 1:12Speaker 1: they've made several attempts to restructure, and finally in two
- 1:16Speaker 1: thousand fifteen last year, Caesar's put its main operating unit
- 1:21Speaker 1: into bankruptcy. Now you have two units. Now you have
- 1:24Speaker 1: two Caesars. Really, you have a Caesar's it's publicly traded,
- 1:28Speaker 1: that is still not in bankruptcy, and then you have
- 1:30Speaker 1: its main operating unit, which is struggling with creditors. That's
- 1:34Speaker 1: created a mess that they're trying to sort out in
- 1:36Speaker 1: two courts, in bankruptcy court in Chicago and in courts
- 1:41Speaker 1: in Delaware and New York. Give us in a nutshell,
- 1:45Speaker 1: what's one side arguing against the other. Bottom line is
- 1:49Speaker 1: the some uh Second Lean bond holders believe that the
- 1:54Speaker 1: non bankrupt company, Caesar's Entertainment Corps, should pay the debts
- 1:57Speaker 1: of the bankrupt company, and the Caesar's Entertainment based in
- 2:03Speaker 1: Las Vegas, has said no, we we legally and legitimately
- 2:07Speaker 1: shed those debts and we no longer are responsible for
- 2:10Speaker 1: paying the it's more than five billion dollars in Second
- 2:12Speaker 1: Lean debt. The court in New York is ready tomorrow
- 2:18Speaker 1: to hear final arguments about who's right on that issue. Okay,
- 2:22Speaker 1: and uh, what what is the latest ruling in terms
- 2:27Speaker 1: of its import and what it tells us next? Absolutely,
- 2:30Speaker 1: the latest ruling came out of Chicago bankruptcy court, where
- 2:33Speaker 1: a judge said, go ahead, bondholders, you can sue in
- 2:37Speaker 1: New York and move forward in New York and try
- 2:40Speaker 1: to win. The reason that has upset the shareholders and
- 2:44Speaker 1: Caesar's is they think they might lose Caesar's Caesar's and
- 2:47Speaker 1: might lose this case in New York, and which case
- 2:50Speaker 1: the parent company could join the operating unit in bankruptcy,
- 2:54Speaker 1: and in shareholders in that case are much more likely
- 2:57Speaker 1: to be wiped out. How much money is it stake?
- 2:59Speaker 1: And you know, could all this uh you know actually
- 3:03Speaker 1: force the company to go completely under? I mean it
- 3:05Speaker 1: could because Caesar's Caesar's um overall value is only a
- 3:10Speaker 1: couple of billion dollars. The non bankrupt company to Las Vegas,
- 3:13Speaker 1: Company's only worth a couple of billion dollars. When you
- 3:15Speaker 1: look at what it's market capts, it's facing liabilities that
- 3:19Speaker 1: are at least five billion, possibly as much as eleven
- 3:22Speaker 1: billion dollars depending on how the courts in Delaware and
- 3:24Speaker 1: New York rule, all that debt could come crashing down
- 3:28Speaker 1: onto the parent company, and there's just no way. Everyone admits,
- 3:32Speaker 1: Caesar's admits, and all of the bondlers admit, there's no
- 3:35Speaker 1: way that that that Caesar's could pay that debt and
- 3:39Speaker 1: remain solvent. Stephen Church, thank you so much for just
- 3:42Speaker 1: a masterful wrap up of what's going on with Caesar's Entertainment.
- 3:46Speaker 1: He's bankruptcy reporter for Bloomberg News in Wilmington, Delaware,