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Episode 243: Memento Mori (SG-1 10.08) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and forty three Took and Stargate SG one.
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Mitch here, Maddie joining me tonight. Brendan, Hey, I hate we're
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sounds right, you know what, Everything checks out so far if we were
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reading the transcript of this podcast, no problem so far. That of course
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is not Brendan, but Craig, you are back. Hello, welcome,
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thanks mate, Thank you for having me. I didn't think it had been
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that long since you've been here until we walked in through downstairs to go to
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the elevator and you're like, oh, the lift's working. I'm like,
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bro, that's been working. Oh my god, it's been there. It's
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been a long Wow. So yeah, last time you came along you had
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to work for it and walk up three flights of stairs. Yeah, and
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my knees survived. I guess yeah, no, good man. Well,
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thank you for coming back knowing that you're gonna have to do exercise and then
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your bloody didn't. I'm dedicated to the cause. Yeah. Look, it
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was it was a later organization of this record time because obviously if you're listening
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live, we've had a you know, we had an old Patreon episode got
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two weeks ago because we weren't able to have a fresh app hashtag blame Mitch
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and like, oh, we're going to go throw it something. We threw
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it, you know, one of our old favorites that was an exclusive Patreon
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over a year ago, not a quiet one last week and then yeah,
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look we threw it out. And you know, Brendan Hay, he's a
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busy man. He's a family guy as well, and lo and behold,
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he can't just drop everything when I asked him question too, because apparently I'm
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very demanding and that's me saying that. So I apologized him not being here.
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But I dare say, maybe as we go on and talk about this,
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I feel like maybe I don't want to be here either, because like
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I watched this weeks ago in anticipation for our record a couple of weeks ago.
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Now that I'm thinking about this episode, I'm like, oh, yeah,
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that's right. If it's not only about Varla, it's about Vala not
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even knowing she's Vila, and about Varla trying to remember that she's Vla,
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And yeah, you know, do the best part about it is going into
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this episode, I was like, oh, this is the episode where Villa
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is the memory wrong episode? I was thinking of the other episode this season
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where a memory. So you've got another one to come, You've got another
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one to come, mate, So I actually don't think it's that bad of
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an episode. Thanks Craig, Thanks coming in. I forget to mention look
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in fairness because it has been a couple of weeks and it's not just me
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trying to be funny about this episode, but I feel like I have forgotten
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a lot about what happened. And that's not to upset Jacob with a K
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out. They know, Jacob with a C Cakebjcob. Jacob with a K
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is our good part of the team, absolutely part of the team. He's
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our LA correspondent in fact of the podcast. So three star Cacob. It's
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not that I didn't watch it. I very much watched it. I just
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it he doesn't like it. You don't pay attention. But I think it's
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fair if you can, if you can watch it and then have forgotten,
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I don't think that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Do we
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have a synopsis? You know what I did? I did have him.
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I've had him in my car the two box. Here we go in the
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back of my car for the couple of ev Yeah, you know, no,
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they're not in my carenty More my daughter getting her out of her seat
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yesterday, she's throwing a tantrum and she's just like throwing herself to the floor
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of the car, refusing to get out and just thrashing around. I like,
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what do we call what's the what are the big box that's called?
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What do we call those bad boys? Thick boys? We were joking calling
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them, Yeah, like, don't hurt my thick boy. And she didn't
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know what I was saying, so I removed it from from her personal name,
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very Christian. I don't know what they would think, so well,
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I don't have it. That's the long answer to say that. So I
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will have to go off IMDb. I guess now your three Stark is going
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to have an issue with you. He's going you had one. You could
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deeve dipe and speak English. We'll save it in the edit. You could
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dive deep and go for a picture off of Google and find the DVD box
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set. Maybe it sounds like way too many. Holly from Lonnie knows quite
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where. We don't google things. She's even even halfway through that She's like,
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those lazy ships are doing that. Every time I've been in here,
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We've googled things. Now, don't tell secrets, mate, you I still
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ask Jeeves. I don't even google. As far as ask Jeeves what Google
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is Memento Maury Murray or Mouray Maria. I think it's I think it's a
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zz PM situation. Oh wow, okay, I mean it'll never take a
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PM on this show, but okay, oh sorry, the pictures are flicking
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through and Cam Mitchell handcuffed well on a bed. I forgot about that lovely
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image. You get a little bit of brown sugar going on there. Varla
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is kidnapped by agents of the Trust who are trying to find an ancient treasure
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when an accident causes her to forget that's who she is. You know,
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even though he's not here, I can hear Brennan's eye rolling at the mention
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of the Trust. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just the Trust, Polution
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Alliance. And then, in a very closest sort of third is from SGA
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did jun Yeah, the three groups of people that we can't wait to not
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see more of. Maybe there's a there's a probably like a game in there.
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Somewhere with that, like a like a Mary Kill situation or something like
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those three that we could get Brennan du or or like some kind of you
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like you like the sports stuff, some kind of weird table where he's choose,
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how you try there with the sports stuff? You know what about us?
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Before we came in, we're talking about the super Bowl and Maddie letters
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going for about eight minutes, and he's like, I liked when that play
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did that thing When we're talking about like the super Bowl, the only one
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to be decided by overtime and just like with three seconds ago, all the
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drama, the comebacks, back to back champions the first time in twenty years.
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But he's like, yeah, that thing was awesome that that guy did.
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I didn't that's a contribute. I didn't even watch the halftime show this
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year. Nor it's not at least tune in for the halftime. I actually
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thought the halftime show was terrible. No, I didn't mind it, but
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Maddie, you will hate you know what, maybe combined the NFL. But
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because it's an Apple Music halftime show, you can always blame Apple. You
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try it's a it's a twelve minute I think it was a twelve or thirteen
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minute show. You were trying and watch that on YouTube. There's like at
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least three I think maybe there was four ad breaks. He'd be in the
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middle of us straight into baby cucumber ads. Wow, I got YouTube premium,
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So I thought, I thought you would have been the type of person
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that would be premium. No, it works. The thing is is they
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gave me that free month h and then it expired and I went back to
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having ads and not being able to listen to podcasts through YouTube with my screen
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locked, and then I went, oh, okay, I'm going to pay
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the sixteen. It is actually that if I ever have to just listen to
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something on YouTube and I want to lock my phone or go to different apps,
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it's like, oh, if you paid a little more, you could
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do that. An AD blocker on Well, you know, I'm not into
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illegal activity. It sounds, you know, as people adjacent to the entertainment
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industry and have friends and family in the entertainment industry, and do you know
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where you are, You're in a commercial radio. You can't exactly put an
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ad blocker on live radio. We don't give them the idea. Podcasts obviously
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we supported the SAgs right, like I pay for my Netflix. Yes,
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you pay for your ad blocker subscription. I just sit there. We're doing
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budgeting at home a couple of months ago, and I'm sitting there like,
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Brendan, you'd be happy that this like an Excel spreadsheet. I like how
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you looked to Brendan. Then when I feel that he's there, right,
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you know you're in spirit and having to write down like all the things that
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you know, all the different bills, great and school fees and petrol things
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are coming out, and then it was down to like, you know,
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the extra stuff and subscriptions, and it's like the only fans fifth few bucks,
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yeah, one person in particulars like Netflix okay, great, Paramount Plus
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okay, Amazon Prime yeah, Disney Plus yeah, Binge, So I stand
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like it for free? Well Apple, Yes, I mean Binge. I
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get for free because us I feel like I should be throwing you five bucks
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a month. I think I think I spared like three of your different Yeah,
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that's that's what I also need to have a separate Excel spreadsheet again,
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Brendan, this is where I need you to work out. Okay, from
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my Netflix, I've got the leeches, right, they need the leech folder.
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Maddie's lead. One of my leaches, the the m v P that
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Mitchell is. He went to go and watch something on Binge a few months
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ago, couldn't because the maximum number of streams reached from the amount of chumps
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he's giving it to other people. So what does he do. He ups
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subscription to the next tier so that he's got a few more screens per thing
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so he can watch on his own. Damn subscription just feels like you're buying
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friendships. And the two people that were watching new of my better friends in
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the world, and even still I'm like, I must not risk them losing
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now, mind you. At the same time, now I was paying like
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say that was like sixteen bucks a month for those two screen limits. There
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was a deal going through Telstra Find Provider if you're outside of Australia people,
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depending where you are, people great coverage across Australia obviously, and it was
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like, hey, for Binge you could get it for the next twelve months
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for like my or whatever. My package is like five dollars a month as
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opposed to sixteen and it was going to be for two I think only two
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screens I'm like, I've got to go for that. I've got to go
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for that. But then it was the exact same day where three of us
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were trying to watch two screens, and I'm like, now I'll go to
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eighteen bucks a month. You know how many times that will ever happen?
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Probably never again. Yeah, Like, what are the change? I think
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it was like something that massively dropped. You were watching something fresh, the
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other mate was watching something fresh, and I was going to watch something else,
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like it was a big day release day. It'll never happen. I
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do feel like I need to like PayPal you five bucks once a month.
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That's just from the different subscriptions. I did cancel my Binch subscription, so
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I jump in there quarterly. Yeah, man, will give you my log
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indeed more, you know. Back to start, it look directed by Peter
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Deloui's which was a surprise to me reading this even after like the amount of
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episode that had played out by the end of those credits, because it didn't
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seem like a Peter Delowize episode. And then come the end, I'm like,
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if you had have told me at the end of this, like if
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it was all a joke and that they put that in there as a gag.
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I would have went, oh, that makes sense now. Of course
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it wasn't one because it did not feel like a Peter Delowize episode. And
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I don't think at any stage. Yeah right, so did. His last
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episode was Arthur's Mantle, which was a Carter and Cam invisible. Yeah.
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Yeah, did he appear in the episode like he usually does. I don't
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think so he did. He did. It's a very blinking it. It's
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the very very opening shot, the establishing shot of the diner before. We
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didn't get to Varla see in there. He's the customer exiting the diner in
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the like the first second and a half theisode. I was looking, I
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couldn't see him. I didn't see it either until he mentioned it in the
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audio comments. Yeah, I was like, you see, he've asked you
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got it. Well. It's a good thing about owning the DVDs though,
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you do get to listen. Yeah, the fat Boys as the fat boys
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like Real Thick and Jus Juicy. Yeah, there's actually some fantastic I wish
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you better watch an like you and Brendan in particular. As like the movie
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Nerds, the special features was great. It was like there was a whole
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fifteen minute thing on like this like car rig they had for the for the
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bike chase and just all this movie magic stuff and because you know what Peter
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Delawize is like he loves doing his physical sort of stuff, and it just
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so much like just nerdy, just sweaty movie shit, and I'm just like,
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oh, you guys really need to watch this. Maybe that's where he
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like gets to his Della weekness is out there, is that it's not a
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comedy episode. It's not supposed to be a funny episode. So he gets
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to Okay, I'm going to stretch my filmmaking muscles a little bit and some
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cranes and some and some great you know when they did the big final battle
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in the one of the many warehouses in this episode, and there's like a
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guy that gets shot and he does like a backward flip off the top of
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the container and lands on a bunch of palettes of the dust. That was
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actually the stunt man who came up with that and said, oh, I
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can do it one another. So he like completely rescheduled the entire day so
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that they could work work out this particular stunt so they could get it all
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done in a like in the day and get all done physically, and then
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it cuts to him like in like the control room in Stargate doing a piece
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to camera and explaining the difference between like a white angle lens and a close
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up. So it's like he's sitting in his chair and like moving his finger
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towards the tip of the camera to show you the difference on when it's white
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angle and stuff. Oh, it was so good speaking about falling off stuntman
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falling off high places to hit you know, palettes whatever. We're all seeing
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reach of season two at this point, I certainly have episode two and the
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cinder blocks. That's all awesome. I will never look at those things the
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same way. Again. Yeah, involved in the fight and then they very
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much ended the fight. I'm like, oh my god, Like I was
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prepared for violence, for Jesus Christ. You know me, I've usually got
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a very low tolerance for that kind of stuff, Like I'm not that kind
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of you. I don't enjoy that. But especially this show really shouldn't be.
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It's about this big, macho guy and he isn't an army guy,
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and he's about muscles and weaponry and trying to be bigger, tougher, and
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more ammoed up than the other guy. He's like the just ultimate alpha,
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and not only through his actions, but the dialogue looks to the camera lot
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goes, this guy is amazing. He is the ultimate man. Don't you
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wish that you were him? Like all every eight minutes they tell you how
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amazing the way the character is. But you really like this show, which
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I'm glad about because I really do too. Yeah, because yeah, it
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is. He doesn't just rely on the I'm gonna solve everything with my fists.
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He's like a good but good guy bane. He's intelligent as well as
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just being this physic he will so honestly he was you know what And during
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a listen and keep going a little tangent here, but like during the first
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few episodes were coming out, and people just start like, I'm sure it's
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happened before, but because of just how insanely massive this guy is, and
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because he's intelligent, he's an investigator, he's doing detective work, and people
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start like fan casting and like doing photoshops of him as the new DCU Batman.
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I'm like, we could do worse. We can do worse. I
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mean maybe he's a little big for my Batman, but I would still enjoy
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I would like to see it. Yeah. Yeah, but like you,
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I watch him do some of that stuff, and because of your size,
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I believe that you do that again, no sports at the end of the
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season finale and when he catches up to the T one tousand the way that
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he doesn't like, that's the most Batman thing you could have done it.
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It is like a little bit of an audition. But yeah, I mean,
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if not, we'll take him in a future stargame project. Wouldn't be
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the first time he's played a DC superhero. Yeah, exact, true,
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this is true. Yeah, did anyone notice who the dude in the diner,
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the owner of the diner? Wars and what other show he's been?
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That was Donna's dad that's show? Oh what? Yeah, so it was
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Saul's diner, but his name is sal Yeah, but yeah, he's Donna's
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dad from that seventy show. Yeah, that the guy with the throw.
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No, I look, I'm looking at him, and I I know I
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know this guy. But it wasn't even like if I sit here for the
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next five minutes, I will remember. It's just like one of those Things,
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don Don Stark or something. I don't but yeah, I just I
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thought it was Again. I thought it was quite funny, given that,
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you know the amount of times I've played the Kelso that seventy show burn audio
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on this on these podcasts, and then we finally get a character from that
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seventy show on the show. My god, he does look different depending on
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what type of hair. Ye holy hell. Well, like the dude,
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the dude that was in Stranger Things who's just been cast as Johnny Storm.
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Oh yeah, I didn't. I didn't put those together. When I saw
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the picture of the guy, I'm like, who is that guy? And
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they had to google him? And then when I saw him from Stranger Things
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with his big eighties wigg you put was his name in Stranger Things? Zero
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chance? Steve right whatever? You know. I don't know if there is
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another Steve I'm forgetting. But yeah, if you put him there from Stranger
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Things and then you put him as Joseph Quinn his actual real life, I'm
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like, we'll pick the guy from Stranger Things. That guy's a nerd.
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Don't put him. He can't be Johnny Storm. And I'm like, oh
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my god, that's the same guy. Can Pedro Pedro Pascal be in anything
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else? Like, how does this man have any time on his hands?
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What is he about to? Is it Gladiator two? I think he's also
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going and they just finished shooting that. He's going to be series. He's
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got more franchises than Thanos has, like the Infinity Star. What franchise did
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he start out in back in two thousand? Did he Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
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Really? Did he? Really? He was a he just there was
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a walk on roll of a of another college what do you call it?
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Freshman on Buffy's first day of college and then he got bitten by a vampire.
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My finger hovering over the that we need a page is just like Star
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Trek Ones, Buffy Ones. It's the boat one? What's the boat blue?
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Heel on Gilmore Girls. You mean, yeah, hey, look I
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need my own page for Lord of the Rings and Marvel and Star Wars.
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Don't get me wrong, this episode right, well just if just because I
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got a cut it. So this is a little bit just on all the
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stunt stuff we were talking about before we got derailed. This is Peter Delawise,
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obviously one of the best directors that stargates ever had him and Martin Wood
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I think are m vps talking with the bike rider who like the stunt bike
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rider who's apparently one of the best in the country. I don't understand the
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difference. One is just smooth going through the other one who's he's hesitating as
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launch. The next one he's starting stealing the wind for a second, then
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he's boating in whichever looks cooler. Was about to say, I don't know
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that I can understand what he's saying, but it doesn't Peter Delawasee tells you,
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it doesn't matter what he's saying. Yeah, it was basically just him
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just being like, how do you want me to weave through the traffic?
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Do want me to do it this way or this way? And he's like,
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I don't know the difference. So it explains it and he just goes
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Joe's cooler. And there would be so much It's like you sit there and
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you watch things. I'm sure there are so many stunts movies and TV that
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are just and they have to be so heavily planned and to be executed,
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you know, to within an inch, you know, otherwise you know you're
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risking lives and all that sort of stuff. But then there would be those
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moments on set and you know, Brendan here, I'd be throwing it back
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to like our days and as teenagers making home movies and shit pretending, or
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who were making action films, and we would just do not necessarily anything that
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made sense of the story or even the scene that we're in. It was
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like, what could be cool? Like right now where we're standing, what's
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the best thing that we could possibly do? And if it's jumping off the
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second story into the pool, cool? Why is there a pool in the
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back in the bad guy's layer? Doesn't matter? Jump in the pool from
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the second story. So I like the delawase, even though he's producing television,
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He's like, yeah, whatever, just make it cool. Cool the
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George Lucas version, do it again but cooler. Yeah, he's putting his
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own twist on it. So that actually was like a handy little chase.
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I thought, like, you know, for as short as it was and
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sort of you know, as minimally impactful as what it was, well,
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giving it on a TV show budget, they had to have like a rolling
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barricade, like blocking off like an entire section of like a highway in Vancouver
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to then like do the stunt once, then let traffic go, loop back
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around on the off ramp and then background and then do it again like that
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would cost a fortune for them to do that for such a little section.
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And then the the car flip amazing like the way they shot it. Like
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when that the car, you would swear that car rolled like rolled and rolled
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it. It did a one eighty. It just flipped once onto its roof
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and that's it. But because he shot it from so many different angles,
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rolled and rolled and rolled and roll, because all they had was that I
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forget the name of it where it's just like there's just that pylon like in
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the passenger seat. Just as they're driving, it just bangs down and just
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shoots like half the car up like a hydraulic ram. And it's like I
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think they call it a log or something like that. Ye, it's just
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a hydraulic thing that just pushed it. And then it's like if they freeze
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frame it and if you look really closely, when you see the car begin
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it's flip, you see this big giant hydraulic like telephone pole, Yeah,
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pushing it up as it's come out of like the passenger seat of the car
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of this fake thing. So there's so much like just like movie shit in
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there. Yeah, that's like a TV budget just for a weekly nothing episode.
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I was about to say that, I wonder whether Delawes looked back on
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that even the week after, now twenty years after, whatever, looks back
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on that episode and can be like, God, there's some really like budgetary
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filmmaking greatness in there. And like one of the great things is always you
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know Jaws in with Spielberg, is that the thing was it would break all
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the time, so they couldn't actually use it. But then they turned into
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more tensional. Say that Robert Rodriguez El Mariachi, the one that they kind
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of remade but also made a sequel to with Desperado, and they had the
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gun they made that movie for like I think ten thousand dollars or something crazy.
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But like whenever they would fire a gun, they had blanks in there,
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but the blanks would and you would be able to correct me all type
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of gun or blanks or whatever, Craig, But whenever they would fire this
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thing, yeah, there'd be like a muzzleflash or what. But then the
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gun would jam. So in the editing. You'd see the flare go off,
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and then it would cut to you know, someone getting shot and they
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would the sound effects whatever, and then it would cut back to someone else.
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He'd turn around, point the gun another way to flash your golf cut
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somewhere, be going getting shot, the sound effects be going off, and
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you're watching it. You're like, oh, they're holding a little machine gun
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in their hands. But no, that that gun would jam after every single
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shots because it is a blank. And so the reason for that is that
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when a bullet goes down the barrel on a machine gun, or don't do
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that with your finger. Don't put one finger into a hole in the other
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hand when you do that, or just like delay is that and make it
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look like you do that fifty seven? Yeah, either way, in the
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barrel, there's a small hole which goes into a gas tube. When you
21:51
actually have a proper bullet go down, it's creating that extra pressure which is
21:55
enough to push the working parts to cycle it because there's nothing doing that.
21:59
There's the gas just escape straight out of the back. Yeah. Okay,
22:00
so you don't get the reciprocation from two things. One just on a side
22:03
note, until this moment I'm not sure I knew that Desperado was a sequel,
22:08
really, at which point I'm now adding that to my list of movies
22:11
where they ask you, I'll name a movie where the sequels better than the
22:14
original. Desperado the dude with the freaking big cello case rocket launch Yet that
22:18
is the greatest thing I ever saw as a kid. I wanted to be
22:22
that guy. The way he like got down on one leg. I'm like,
22:25
that is the coolest motherfucker in the entire world. Before we hit record,
22:27
we're talking about shows or movies that like were they kind of you know
22:30
some TV shows that they turn into a movie, and they will. It's
22:33
kind of a sequel if you want it to be, but it's also a
22:37
remake with a better budget. I think that's the I haven't seen those movies
22:40
in one hundred years. But like, yeah, he made El Mara actually
22:42
for like, you know, a lunch. You know, money's worth a
22:45
budget, and then Desperado comes along, got a lot more and you can
22:48
watch it as a sequel, but it's also kind of yeah and like amen,
22:52
yeah, yeah, stop, okay, And you guys are talking about
22:56
bullets. Another one A little back behind the scene means movie magic things is
23:00
Peter Delawize, let us know about how they did some of the bullet hits
23:03
during the Trust battle. Paintballs are a great fast way of getting bullet hits
23:10
on stuff without a lot of time consuming wiring and rewiring. They take a
23:15
paintball, normal paintball, that a shell, and they put their cornium and
23:22
other debris in there that cause it. When it impacts, it creates a
23:26
spark. There's no hole there, but if you hit metal with the zert
23:30
ball, looks like the metal sparking. It's also less paperwork than actually shooting
23:34
people. Yeah. Well, and also like obviously having to set up squibs
23:37
and production of rust are too soon. You can't say that yet. I
23:48
mean awful, awful accident, but like yeah, I mean yeah with that.
23:52
With that, no one's like, how can we be still using real
23:56
guns on set? And it kind of doesn't make sense. But then it's
23:57
they're all real guns, yeah, you know, yeah, you know,
24:00
live live amail and all that sort of stuff, And it's like, well,
24:03
yeah, but you know guns that look like guns on screen, you
24:06
know, sort of like it's that thing. It's like, well, you
24:07
have to use it to be real. But then yeah, do you I
24:10
don't know, it's yeah anyway, Yeah, so Bellow found a good way
24:14
to do it. You know, if you have to cast, you know,
24:17
gay men to play gay men in television, well then you have to
24:19
use a real gun. If you can't have it both ways, guys,
24:23
either you let straight men play gay roles or you people get shot on set.
24:27
But you know that's and that's what the Yeah, these woke how to
24:37
feel the feel the void from Brandan gotta say woke at least one episode.
24:41
That's a great I've never heard that before, MATI. I just came home
24:44
with that on the spot. Now that's brilliant. Okay, so we get
24:48
flashes of brilliant from we sell brilliant in the world. Did you know that
24:56
that car that got flipped was actually Cooper's? I just completely made that up.
25:02
I hope he was in it. You know what that would have made
25:04
the idea of Dela directing episode is it? Pip? I think the reason
25:15
there's so much action in this is because Peter Deleys looked at the script and
25:18
went, how the am I supposed to make this? I'm gonna have to
25:22
put a lot of action in his people actually watch this pile of crap?
25:25
Do you think we have too many warehouse fights? No? Not same warehouse
25:29
from last season too, like that the warehouse. We there's only so many
25:32
warehouses. We have one village and one warehouse. Yeah, Redress literally we
25:36
invaded it back in infinity when the Trust were getting up to Tilk's girlfriend.
25:41
Yea, literally the same building and then we we uh invade like two warehouses
25:49
in this episode it's the same warehouse, just the other side. Like,
25:55
I'm all for movie magic, but come on, guys, they just used
25:57
their camera phone and flipped it to the other camera. So why does the
26:00
Trust only have warehouses? They're cheap? Oh does my head? But a
26:07
foreshadowing in this episode to VALA's other memory episode, No, the the Daniel
26:14
and Vala thing, a little bit of yes now, I was chatting with
26:18
someone the other day who is doing a first watch of Stargate and spoiler alert
26:23
to anyone who hasn't seen Unending, there's a moment and fine, the fact
26:30
that you had to ask that question. It seems like I forgot the title
26:34
of it. Like, I think about that episode quite every time. I
26:37
hear every time I hear. Yeah, Yeah, I can't. I can't
26:41
hear that song without thinking of that, without seeing Mitchell go nuts. Yeah,
26:48
and they didn't buy a certain moment in unending. I don't believe it.
26:51
I don't buy it doesn't fit and it's like you watch the ending of
26:53
this scene and you go, oh, there's the groundwork right there. Absolutely
26:57
yeah. And I like that about yes episode by absolutely by So, especially
27:03
when we're talking about last SG one episode with Daniel opened up Tavala about char
27:10
which is something we all thought happened sort off screen, and then suddenly there
27:12
it is him really opened up to her about that. So, yeah,
27:15
they really are building a close bond. Charlotte Mayfield's back, Oh the rain
27:22
Trump to train Runner. Yeah? Is this so? Do we you welcome
27:26
Brendan? Yeah? I was curious do we think then was she a old
27:30
back when we first met her or has she been gula fide? No,
27:36
she's in between, because at no point did we see like an eye flash
27:40
and she's been goodled the whole time. Okay, I don't have a strong
27:44
opinion either way. I'm just curious. We're in a podcast, so I'm
27:45
just you know, what is everyone else their own ideas. Yeah, yeah,
27:49
message, yeah yeah, let us know what you think. I think
27:52
I would say the whole time. Do you think though, that maybe Barr
27:56
was just like auditioning her, So he's like, well, there's five bars.
28:00
He it was five bars? Well, yeah, yeah, we're going
28:02
to run the train on Charlotte Mayfield. And then if she can hold up
28:06
against five bars at once, do we then implant her to keep her around
28:10
because we've got to keep that body fresh. Five bars with ten balls,
28:14
well assuming maybe you know, but it's like, you know, if they
28:19
got to keep if they if they're enjoying, they got to keep that body
28:22
fresh. And it's like if five bars are running the train on just a
28:26
normal human, I mean, that's gonna be like a hot dog in a
28:29
hallway pretty quick, so healing pretty quick. I guess, well that's what
28:33
I'm saying. If she was human, then were they auditioning her and then
28:34
say Okay, we need to keep this fresh. We need a lot.
28:37
We need to see Mitch's brain from this part of the podcast in her.
28:44
That's going to give her long life and that's gonna make a little bit stronger
28:47
to handle the poundings. You know, just food food for thought from you,
28:52
just like as I'm trying to feel the brend and void, trying to
28:56
feel the brend and void, just just like the bars. Absolutely just how
29:03
many more times do we see her after this? Though? Maybe once?
29:07
Maybe once? Yeah, Yeah, I don't think we get a lot of
29:08
resolution because when they say she's Athena in this one, I write that down.
29:14
Yeah, and obviously this is the introduction of the claver, thea saura
29:17
infinitis. I'm just proud I got that. The silence was definitely then.
29:22
Yeah. I thought Mitchell would at least praise me for getting that correct,
29:27
like, but I guess, I guess he's still processing all the Charlotte stuff.
29:32
I'm just looking other than this is all I've got, Like, you
29:34
know, it's going to look for like this is the equivalent of the like
29:37
or something equivalent of the group chats that Mitchell ironing when we we just communicate
29:41
exclusively via a meme and gift and it's like Mitch's got nothing to say,
29:45
so he's going to send me an audio meme. What Yeah, there,
29:53
I got a buzzer. Dude, please don't touch that. Don't touch it.
30:00
What do you think Tilk said to the trust dude. Maybe he was.
30:03
He was he was going to do to him what Barr was Charlotte.
30:07
He's like, you get to spend the rest of eternity in this room with
30:11
me. Yeah, and mind you're you're gonna meet my symbiote and remember that
30:15
I'm Montretonin. So I don't And you know what, usually with scenes like
30:19
that, I don't like it because I'm like, that's just lazy writing in
30:23
a sense that I'm like, can't you show us what they said? Like
30:26
it was something creative, a threat, But somehow, some why, because
30:30
it's Tilk, it doesn't matter what he said. Only that guy's reaction that
30:37
matters. So, you guys know the show How I Met Your Mother?
30:38
Right, So in an episode of that, when Lily was pregnant in real
30:42
life, right, they told it. So Barney told a joke to her
30:48
and he whispered it in her ear. We never heard it. As an
30:49
audience, we actually got to find out what the joke was. The actual
30:55
joke was, what is the difference between peanut butter and jam And He's like,
31:00
I can't peanut but on my gut. Here there's some great versions of
31:07
that. Literally, I was Jacob and I were sending jokes like that back
31:12
each of the other day. Was that, Muttley, what's the difference between
31:18
an enzyme and a hormone? You can't hear an enzyme? What's the what?
31:26
What's what's what's the difference between a legume and a chickpee? I've never
31:30
paid a lgume on my face. I went to play it. It was
31:38
gonna be this. That's how we throw it to the Charlotte maybe and I've
31:45
also got this ready for you. But this is I've put this on my
31:48
wall permanently. We haven't had a reason for it for a while. On
31:52
my phone, I can yeah, hey, some nice peit ofcot. I
32:00
noticed in this episode. You mentioned it before, Mitchell, when your namesake
32:04
Cam was changed a handcuff to the bed. If you notice on his abdomen
32:10
there's still a scar from Babylon where you were hit by the Sodan. That
32:15
is such a cool detail detail Like to me, that feels like something that's
32:19
something that Ben Browder would mention, like. I feel like I was about
32:22
to ask, who do you think that is? To be a Broader or
32:23
a Deloees, because did Delauiz do Babylon. Let me check my it's a
32:28
bit of a method actor. He went out and actually stabbed himself, got
32:32
into a bar fight a biker bar. Let me just check and see Babylon
32:39
director Peter Delaize. God damn it, hang on done. So yeah,
32:45
I would put it to either a Delouise or a or a Browder, would
32:50
be like, let's put that scar on. I mean the continuity people out
32:52
there in the world are like that down job, how dare you? But
32:57
no, like you know, these people are playing these these rolls and like
33:00
you'll appreciate this one. Jack Bauer twenty four. He remember, I'm sorry,
33:07
how very dare Remember the tattoo that he got on his arm? Yeah?
33:13
Third, he actually got that tap He did, actually got that.
33:17
There's two to my two biggest pet peas ever is when someone is holding like
33:22
a coffee cup like a travel coffee car. Yes, and it's got it's
33:25
either empty or got water in it, and I don't mind, well,
33:29
I don't mind. Well, if it's gonna be they will, they will
33:30
do a chug. If it's got a lid, I don't mind that's got
33:32
water on it, because then the weight but they chug it and you have
33:37
to sip that, like they'll literally get it from a barista, yeah,
33:39
and then be chugging and it's like, you know, that's liquid hot,
33:43
Maggie. What problem is when they have an open like a cappuccino at a
33:45
caf and they like have a sip and then you can see like an inch
33:49
deep into that, into that cup and there isn't one little nothing, but
33:52
the tide's not going up or down that and that coffee should stain. And
33:55
I'm like, that's lazy guys. So that's what spills that ship. Seventeen
34:00
times in sixteen different takes. You feel that, Yeah, And my other
34:04
pet peeve is, Yeah, when a character gets a tattoo in the TV
34:07
show that they don't have in real life, and then three seasons later you
34:13
see him wearing a sleeveless shirt or something like that and the tattoo's not there
34:15
for someone got the tattoo so he didn't have to keep doing it. Respect
34:20
Johnny Depp did that with a bunch of Jack Sparrow's tattoos too. I think,
34:22
oh, really, yeah, I feel like maybe the ones like he's
34:24
got one of these, maybe he's wrists. I think I think he got
34:28
it was just easier in the end to just get them permanently and have them
34:30
covered up for other roles than have them constantly applied. Yeah. Fun fact
34:35
about you're talking about the guy that Tilk almost tortured earlier. You will never
34:39
recognize him because he looks so different. He's the pompous, redheaded guy from
34:45
from Atlantis, the Tower, you know, with the weird, like the
34:52
fancy French people. Yeah, and he was like the obnoxious brother, yeah,
34:57
with the redhead with in brain. Yeah, same guy, same actor
35:02
ship. Yeah. I didn't realize even that far apart, not like the
35:07
episodes No. Five six episodes ago. Maybe, yeah, but I guess
35:12
different shows. So I mean, if freaking if Narene can play Weird's boyfriend,
35:16
then I guess we can let this guy slide. Very limited genetic gene
35:20
pool, very limited actor pool in vcover. So obviously I listened to these
35:28
episodes back as well the podcast, because you know, Maddie did mention in
35:32
one of the episodes that I bought up about Barla's uniform as well. This
35:37
is where she officially gets the tiny patches baby patches because she's so tidy.
35:43
Yeah, it's it's and once you see it, you can't unsee it.
35:45
It's just one of those things you just go, oh. That means like
35:49
she's literally had patches custom like on the show it's it's a TV show,
35:52
it's fine, but it's like in world, it's like there are hundreds of
35:57
people working. We established what do we said wish the other week there's now
36:00
twenty twenty four SGT. Yeah, twenty four times four. That's too many
36:05
shoulder patches they need. They're all just being made one size and just changing
36:08
the number on them. She got custom custom like half sized bay little baby
36:14
ones to put on her shoulders for like her first mission. Like I then
36:19
Chris Judges sitting back, Why didn't I get bigger ones? Yeah, here's
36:24
like dinner plates. Yeah. Well overall though, like I really didn't mind
36:32
that as an episode like earth Bound episodes, Yeah, not too. I
36:37
mean, yeah, it's fun. It popped up with the start written by
36:39
Joe and Paul, so you know it's gonna be an earth episode, so
36:43
you know going in. But yeah, I think I like what it sets
36:45
up. I think the payoff is worth this episode of you know, I
36:50
won't spoil what it is. But it's like the later episodes that this is
36:53
setting up, I really really really enjoy. So it's yeah, it's well,
37:00
what I say is the juice is worth the squeeze at the end.
37:01
But this as an episode on its own, it's never an episode wrong to
37:05
be sitting at home, you know, on a Thursday afternoon, ago,
37:08
I really want to watch Momento, Maury. You know, it's not it's
37:12
not that we got to see a little bit of range in like Varala as
37:15
a character as well, Like yes, all right, she wasn't exactly herself,
37:20
but like normally she's that you know, fun out there sort of you
37:22
know, we got to see a little bit more sadness and stuff from her
37:25
as well. Yeah it's cool. Yeah, yeah, I guess you know
37:28
something, Brennan and I, you know, harp on a bit. It's
37:30
like we know her as Aaron Suns, so it's like we know she's got
37:34
that range, so she got Yeah, so I guess it's good that people
37:37
who may have only seen her in Stargate see her as you know, the
37:40
diner girl, and then see her as the lamest Jason bornever when she you
37:45
know, does little her little fight scene at the start there, and yeah,
37:47
it just gives her a little a little bit more rain and we got
37:50
to see Donna's dad. Yeah, and that that weird the weird date that
37:53
Daniel took Vala on, which wasn't a day thank you, Like, come
38:00
on, man, okay, but remember, like, so she's been on
38:01
the team about a week. She's been here on Earth for a few months
38:06
now. Remember when Tilk couldn't leave the base for like the first four seasons.
38:10
Yeah, show yeah, Igine Tilk being like, where is my thank
38:15
you dinner? And he's like, well, you did shoot my wife And
38:19
he's like, well, so I guess that's why Tilk never got his thank
38:22
you dinner. Yeah, well, I guess she's officially SG one now we're
38:27
just getting it's oh, that's right. The opening credits Did they change last
38:32
week? Was it this week? I should have written that down, job
38:38
mate. There is an adjustment either this episode or the previous episode or maybe
38:43
even the next episode. Uh, the opening credits have changed so right at
38:46
the end, it used to be like just the four SG one members walking
38:51
up the ramp through the stargate. Now they kind of like Daniel stops and
38:54
Varala comes running in through through the door and he like grabs her and reefs
38:58
her up. So the other three walked through first, and then he and
39:00
Daniel and Varla walked through after that. Just that, just the last little
39:04
bit at the end of the end of the opening credits. Yeah, I
39:07
think going into this and realizing, Okay, this is one of the Valer
39:10
episodes that you were talking about, and I was Okay, here we go.
39:14
But I also had that one is all I know is oh her and
39:20
the dad or something, you know, it's coming up, and I'm like,
39:22
like, that's when you're not gonna like or something. So I realize
39:24
it wasn't that. I was like, oh, this isn't actually that,
39:28
Like, if there's a worst one to come, like, I don't know
39:30
whether it was it was that. And I can't remember everything that they're necessarily
39:34
setting up like you were saying. So I was taking it as an individual
39:37
episode and as a Vala episode, and unfortunately Brendan as a trust episode.
39:43
Yeah, but I still didn't come away and going, oh, that's the
39:45
worst piece of shit so far this season or anything. So this is episode
39:47
eight. We've got like twelve episodes to go, and we still have the
39:51
Vali Dada episode and the other Vola memory episode. To god, that's actually
39:54
insane memory based ones. And given last season we had the whole cam with
40:01
his memory machine as well, So it's a lot. But it's like it's
40:06
like Brennan always says, it's like, you know, they're playing catch up
40:08
with his new characters, trying to you know, give them more and more
40:12
and more and more backstory. So we feel as we have them, yeah,
40:16
invested in them as much as we are, as as you know,
40:19
the og SG one team. So they found out they were getting canceled after
40:23
the release of two hundred, yes after it played on air, So this,
40:29
this would have already been in the can, right. It's not like
40:30
they were like, ship, we've got to start giving these people some some
40:34
more screen time. Yeah, maybe that's why they gave her a second one.
40:38
So we need another Violar episode. What do we do last time?
40:40
Just do the same thing in kind again, make it better. It would
40:45
make it better. And if anyone's interested, just for the trivia nerds out
40:50
there, the mento mauri is Latin or whatever for like remember your mortality or
40:55
remember you will or remember you must have died, yeah, which I thought
41:00
interesting. Yeah, yeah, there was something kind of sweet or peaceful or
41:04
something about like the idea that she's had this incredible life. Like it's it's
41:07
still kind of funny to be this far into this into this show and for
41:10
everything that happens and all the bad guys out there and that talk about Earth
41:15
and us as like one people. Like whenever we think of an alien race,
41:19
except for the ones that are explicitly in the middle of a civil war
41:22
or something, we think about a group of people, you know, the
41:24
tol One. They are all toll On. It doesn't matter what country or
41:28
wherever they come from or whatever. The guld you know, Okay, there's
41:30
some infighting it they're all the one thing. They've all got essentially the same,
41:34
you know, motives and end goals and whatnot. Whereas us as humans,
41:37
it's like you come down amate, we're all thinking different things. Okay,
41:40
it doesn't matter, depending on what a lot of the river, we're
41:44
thinking different things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you only think about
41:46
our city where it wore almost with the other. The people on the other
41:50
side, on the other side of the river, they say Jesus and my
41:52
cousin attracted south side scum. Hey, how dare you north side? Right?
41:58
But now your bay side. We'll let it slide you north or south
42:02
and east there is no east. I'm like, I'm as east as you
42:06
can get a further east. I'm literally in the ocean you so much,
42:10
you know, everyone talks about us as a tari and where one people.
42:14
It's like, now we've got this other ship going on and and and we
42:16
don't know that the Stargate program exists, Like the world doesn't know aliens exist
42:21
for the most part, Like did I forget to tell you when I went
42:22
to Egypt the Stargate program that actually exists to talk about, Yeah, not
42:29
to mention it. Yeah, might do a special bonus episode we break that
42:32
down. I mean, if we've got time. Yeah, the Trust allows
42:37
us to tell people. So no one knows anything. So we're still just
42:38
like such an insular people in the galaxy. And that she loses a memory
42:43
and she just starts working at a bloke's diner, and she's had this and
42:47
led this amazing, incredible life. She was taken over by an alien at
42:52
one stage and ruled over people with this evil villain that has come back and
42:57
but she's walking around it's just this clueless weight, and iund there was something
43:01
kind of like you could just go on for the rest of your life and
43:04
be like this and you seem like you kind of know that there's something there,
43:07
but also you're kind of happy with what you've got, and it's like,
43:08
yeah, no, there's something I don't know there was something's something just
43:13
ever so small, something nice about about that. Yeah. I think as
43:15
human beings we often sometimes daydream and go what would happen, you know,
43:20
if I'd let a different life, What if happened? What if ten years
43:22
ago I was in that Gwyneth Paltro Sliding Doors movie and did this other thing?
43:27
Where would I be now? And what kind of life would I have
43:30
led? So branching into the multiverse, Yeah, I think I think that's
43:32
you know, that's relatable for everybody. So, yeah, it is it
43:36
interesting to think about, you know, what Varla's life would have been like
43:37
had it not been her life. Yeah, the caveat you have to kind
43:43
of remember with this though, and it's something we've spoke about a lot in
43:45
Stargate. Is given that she's not originally from Earth and she lost all her
43:51
memories. She's still speaking English and like American English. Yeah. Yeah.
43:55
So it's like, well, does she know is that is that what language
44:00
they speak wherever she's from. Does her brain reset to you know, default?
44:05
Default? What do they call it in Star Wars basic? Galactic basic?
44:09
Is that is that the default for her freedom has been spread across the
44:13
gallery. She just she just could. She just caused like a bald eagle.
44:22
The only thing that I got me is because it's such a cliche way
44:25
that these scenes run out where you know, we see, you know,
44:29
Carter and tilk And and Cam are going to go or whoever you know,
44:32
they're going to go out and get Vala rescue her. And that's what we
44:37
see next time when they hey, sorry, officer whatever the copper's name was,
44:42
it was interviewing her who was an actor. I definitely recognized this having
44:45
gone on and done other stuff. I just had his name up on and
44:47
we never see him again, and like, ah, those her people are
44:52
here to pick her up. You're like, okay, cool, here's he
44:54
comes Carter, because that's the last scene we saw in Walks somebody else,
44:58
Hey, I'm Samantha Carter. The start get origins. The wish doot comes
45:02
Samantha and they take her away, and then like seconds later, you know,
45:07
the real people show up and go, hey, we're here to pick
45:09
up you were just here. And that the person that is like in this
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state in this case, the copper. The police officer should I say always
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believes the second person that rocks up, because it's always the second Whenever we
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watch TV movie, it's always the second people that rock up that are the
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real people. The bad guys always beat them to it, and the police
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officer or whoever it may be, always believe the second people to show up
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and go, now we're the real ones. They never go hang on.
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Especially this guy is a copper. He could like go, can you just
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know sorry, can you just come into this room. I'm gonna ask you
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some questions, like you just showed up and you're a military officer, and
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now you show up and you're also a military Say I'm actually rocked up with
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uniform too. Yeah I'm a military officer. You'd be like, no,
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no, thank you. You know, the real one just took her away.
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I'm not giving you any information. You know, like they always he
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goes, they just left go if you go now, you can chase them,
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you can get them. And I'm like, God, you seem like
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you're a gullible police officer now because you haven't believedances that building were there's a
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lot sure that they would have passed him in the stairwell or something like.
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It's like that meme from Star Wars episode three where it's like the part we
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don't see is like overyone can be leaving Mustaf Mustafa with padme in pain,
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and then like passing by the window is the Emperor going to retrieve anagain?
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And they just like look staring at each other at the window. Is drived
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by? All Right? That's episode two hundred and forty three of the Getting
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the Gates podcast. Here with us the Gators. We'll be back next week.
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We're going to the Pegasus Galaxy, back to Atlantis. What do we
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got, Matil mackay and Missus Miller. Oh I love this, Okay,
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I've heard you guys talking about this for a hot minute. I mean it's
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obviously it's because it's McKay. I don't know that miss Miller. Where is
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it, Missus Miller, Missus Miller, missus. I don't get the missus
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Miller reference Miller. No, you will not land him go if it's a
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queen thing. Oh my god. Sus Miller may have started her life as
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miss McKay hm hmm. He bangs his mom twice. Otherwise, it was
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just he went back in his own father situation. That's why he looks like
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that. He We love you, David, We love to have you on
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