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FILM REAL | Home Alone with Stacy · The Recess Bell

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  Speaker 1: This production is brought to you by the Recess Bell
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  Speaker 1: Home Alone. Don't you just love Home Alone?
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  Speaker 2: I love Home Alone?
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking for a second because I had a way
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  Speaker 2: that we could start this off and now forgot it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't do bits like that on film reel, Stacy,
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  Speaker 1: We're real, this is the film.
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  Speaker 2: So we're just gonna be like, hello, we're Justin and
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  Speaker 2: Stacy pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: But now you're really loud all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, got excited.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're getting right in.
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  Speaker 2: I have four main points for Home Alone three, just
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  Speaker 2: so you know, but I think you covered most of them.
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  Speaker 1: Would you stop spoiling what we're getting to. This is
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  Speaker 1: film reel. My name is Justin joining me. You heard her,
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  Speaker 1: It's the lovely Stacy Rain Stacy. How are you doing? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so great?
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  Speaker 1: Great?
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually less great because I watched homelone three.
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  Speaker 1: What is all right? We're gonna get into some Home
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  Speaker 1: Alone three talk. We're gonna talk to the first two
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  Speaker 1: home alones. I know you people out there thinking, did
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  Speaker 1: you already do a Home Alone special with Liam? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fantastic movie. I watch it every year. So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk some more Home Alone, and me and
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  Speaker 1: Stacy specifically both watched Home Alone three, so that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the main event. We're going to get to that
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  Speaker 1: in just a minute. But before we get to that,
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  Speaker 1: I need to know some more about Stacy Rain. So
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  Speaker 1: I asked this for a lot of my guests growing up,
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  Speaker 1: what was your favorite television show that you watch?
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  Speaker 2: Save by the Bell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited, I said, such.
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  Speaker 2: A classically, such a classic.
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  Speaker 1: Where you team Slater or other guy?
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  Speaker 2: Zach Zach Zach Morris?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where you you like Zach Moore? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 2: He's adorable.
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  Speaker 1: He has an aged as well as Mario Lopez, though
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really looked him up lately. Has he been
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  Speaker 2: in anything lately?
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  Speaker 1: He does sitcoms and shows every now and then. They've
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  Speaker 1: rebooted Saved by the Bell a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I did not watch that, So something's wrong with me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm mean make a note to go do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I heard it wasn't good and then Screech wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in a dustin diamond and then he eventually died.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I thought, Yeah, it did. They I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that they're all doing well.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think Mario Lopez is doing the best out
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  Speaker 1: of all of them because he does the access Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he does. And then so it was say by
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  Speaker 2: the Bell, but it was also say by the Bell
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  Speaker 2: the college years. Yes, they had the best college dorms.
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  Speaker 2: Did you notice that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch it?
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: That is not how my college dorms were.
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  Speaker 1: No, all these shows make living arrangements seem so much better.
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  Speaker 1: You always wanted the room I always wanted, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Clarissa explains it all. You know her room. I wanted, Hey, Arnold,
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  Speaker 1: you know Arnold's room. They always lavish it up and
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  Speaker 1: make you feel so crappy about your life. Saved by
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  Speaker 1: the Bell was great. It was you know, cheese to
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  Speaker 1: the extreme and very eighties and nineties, a lot of fun,
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  Speaker 1: vibrant colors and whatnot. But I dig it. What about
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  Speaker 1: as far as cartoons go.
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  Speaker 2: I try to play Saved by the Bell for my kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they were like, no, change the channel.
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  Speaker 1: You have three kids and none of them enjoyed any
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: I think I only had my oldest watch it when
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  Speaker 2: he was probably eight, and he was like, no, thanks,
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  Speaker 2: So maybe he was a little young. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's always try again.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I try that with the niece and nephew
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  Speaker 1: to show them something, and I hype it up like
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  Speaker 1: you need to watch et it's the best, and then
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  Speaker 1: my niece is scared of it. My nephew has add
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  Speaker 1: he's not even paying attention. So that's always disappointing. Do
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  Speaker 1: you make your kids, not like make your kids, but
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  Speaker 1: do you encourage your kids to watch things that you
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  Speaker 1: watched while you were growing up?
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  Speaker 2: Or That is the joy of parenting justin is that
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  Speaker 2: I can then relive my childhood through them. Yeah, is
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  Speaker 2: the best I can, which is why I try to
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  Speaker 2: make them watch Saved by the Bell and it's why
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  Speaker 2: I always make them watch Home Alone every year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to make them anymore. They love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids. I wrote this down because I take notes,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm a professional. But Home Alone is one of
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  Speaker 1: those timeless sort of movies. It really just is generational.
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  Speaker 1: You could show it to a kid that was born
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, or you could show it to a
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  Speaker 1: kid that was born in nineteen eighty. It's it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things that I think will live on forever.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there's lots of reasons for that, which
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  Speaker 1: we will get to. But before that, a little more
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  Speaker 1: Stacy information. Now, what cartoons were you watching? Because you
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  Speaker 1: got a little bit older than me, I'm guessing you
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  Speaker 1: look so young, so I really can't tell, Stacy, But
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  Speaker 1: what were you the cartoons that were on during your lifetime?
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  Speaker 1: Something like Muppet Babies? Were you a Muppet Babies girl?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I did like Muppet Babies. I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: Love the Muppet Babies? Was it?
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  Speaker 2: Ducktails?
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  Speaker 1: Woo?
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  Speaker 2: Ducktails was a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Chippendale Rescue Rangers there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that one. I just remember there was Ducktails.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Ducktails is Chippendale different of the same.
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  Speaker 1: Chippindale is like part of that Disney Afternoon blocks like
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  Speaker 1: Gummy Bears and Chippindale and duck Tails and tail spin,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of tail.
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  Speaker 2: Spin, That's what I'm thinking of. And then there was
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  Speaker 2: Scooby doo which is is that still it's still My
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  Speaker 2: kids still watch it, so I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 2: still around or it's just reap.
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  Speaker 1: They Scooby Doos? Is it another one of those things
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  Speaker 1: that will never go away? Because they always reboot, it rebranded.
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  Speaker 1: They had the pup name Scooby Doo in the eighties,
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  Speaker 1: they had you know, different variations, live action versions in
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  Speaker 1: the two thousands. That's one of those things that I
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  Speaker 1: don't think will ever ever go away. What about action cartoons?
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  Speaker 1: Did girls in the in the eighties and nineties did
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  Speaker 1: they watch action cartoons? Like did you watch like Ninja
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  Speaker 1: Turtles or anything like that?
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  Speaker 2: My brother did?
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  Speaker 1: What about Power Rangers?
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  Speaker 2: No, no Power Rangers. I have sent seen Power Rangers
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  Speaker 2: because I have the kids love it. Yeah, but no,
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  Speaker 2: no Power Rangers. For me. There was was it Alvin
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  Speaker 2: and the Chipmunks, but there was Girl Girl Chipmumps. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: that one. I liked that one. Yeah. I had a
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  Speaker 2: repertoire of cartoons.
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  Speaker 1: One more stacy growing up question music? What was your
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  Speaker 1: go to music? Were you a Spice girl? Girl? Hanson?
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  Speaker 1: You're giving Hanson vibes?
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  Speaker 2: I did not like Hanson. Then I actually like them.
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  Speaker 2: Now they redid lately. Really have you heard this? And
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  Speaker 2: it's really good. I don't know if it's I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's just on YouTube or what, but they
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  Speaker 2: redid it and it was great. Nothing then they were
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  Speaker 2: talented let's say none of us were married.
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  Speaker 1: All right, if you could have any woman in the world,
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  Speaker 1: who would it be? What about you? Quagmaya, Taylor Hanson.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Hanson's a guy. You guys are yanking me. Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's put one over on old quag may Go to
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  Speaker 1: a musical choice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when I was a kid kid, I can
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  Speaker 2: remember jamming in the back of my mom's car to
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  Speaker 2: some Millie Vanilli. Oh god girl, you know, and then
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  Speaker 2: that went south for them. There was Red Red Wine.
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  Speaker 2: I used to love that one, which I think is
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  Speaker 2: hilarious now looking back that I was jamming to that
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  Speaker 2: at probably like six.
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  Speaker 1: You be forty.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you have some I forget how noledgele you are
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  Speaker 2: about this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I love the Red Red I can't remember like.
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  Speaker 2: Groups that I liked that young, just known out in
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  Speaker 2: high school. It was like in sync?
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  Speaker 1: Was were you at sync? Or Backstreet?
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  Speaker 2: In sync?
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: For I used to call the radio station like can
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  Speaker 2: you play.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch TRL? I'm guessing yeah with Carson Dally?
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  Speaker 2: Sure did? Sure did? He's still around yeah today showing it.
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  Speaker 1: So you were supposed to have an interview with him
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  Speaker 1: right at one point?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it just ended up being Savannah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's still turned out great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Carson, you need to come back on my show.
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  Speaker 1: We need you, Stacey. Now I do the morning show
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  Speaker 1: with you at ninety point three WHPC. But you are
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  Speaker 1: also doing a podcast, right, you got something coming up? Well?
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  Speaker 2: I have one that I just wrapped called Wisdom of
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  Speaker 2: Age that it's a series of six episodes plus a
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  Speaker 2: bonus I did, but it interviews people who are of
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  Speaker 2: our oldest generation, so they're in their eighties and nineties,
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  Speaker 2: about their lives and through those stories you get know,
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  Speaker 2: some good life lessons.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing with you right now, interviewing a
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  Speaker 1: eighty year old justin geez. We're just having fun, Stacey,
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  Speaker 1: We're just having fun. So what's the new podcast going
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  Speaker 1: to be?
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  Speaker 2: The new podcast is going to be a show called
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  Speaker 2: tell Me what It's Like, and it's about experiences that
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  Speaker 2: most of us haven't had. So I'm pretty excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: It'll come out in the spring.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm very excited. I'm going to be helping you
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  Speaker 1: on that, right, you are going.
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  Speaker 2: To be my helper.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's be great. Let's get into Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're recording this just around the week or so
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  Speaker 1: until Christmas, and it's a magical time of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Even for me. Even though my last name's Greenberg, I
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  Speaker 1: was raised Catholic. My mother's Catholic, and you took the
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  Speaker 1: mom's religion for majority of people, so people might not
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  Speaker 1: think I'm Catholic or you know, raised that way. I
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  Speaker 1: look Jewish, I sound Jewish, I have Jewish features and
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  Speaker 1: have the last name for sure, But Nope, Greenberg is Catholic.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the holiday season. I love the music,
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  Speaker 1: I love the lights. I love the festivities, making cookies,
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  Speaker 1: the presents, the traditions and whatnot. But I love media.
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  Speaker 1: I love watching television programs that involve Christmas. I love
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  Speaker 1: watching movies that involve Christmas. So my favorite Christmas movies
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  Speaker 1: of all time are probably the first. It's probably the
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  Speaker 1: first home alone movie. But besides that, are there any
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  Speaker 1: movies or specials that you think are must watch during
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  Speaker 1: the holiday season. I'm going to start off stacy with
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  Speaker 1: some of my favorite cartoons that had great Christmas specials.
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  Speaker 1: So Garfield, which was huge in the eighties, had a
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  Speaker 1: fantastic Christmas special where Garfield he goes to his grandmother's
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  Speaker 1: family's house at a farm, and you find out that
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  Speaker 1: the grandma her husband passed away. And it's a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting story that they talk about death with this cartoon.
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  Speaker 1: You know special this is meant for five year old
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  Speaker 1: six year olds, but it's got some heavy stuff and
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  Speaker 1: it's all about loss and you know, rekindling some of
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  Speaker 1: those memories that you had with like lost past relatives
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  Speaker 1: during the holiday season and how sad it can be
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  Speaker 1: during the holiday season without you know, your your loved one.
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  Speaker 1: So I always love that Garfield one. Sometimes I wake
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  Speaker 1: up in the night and I can still feel his
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  Speaker 1: strong arms roundly.
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  Speaker 2: This is the night I miss him the most.
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  Speaker 1: The Snoopy, you know, the Peanuts Christmas Special is must watch.
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  Speaker 1: It's very simplistic, but there's also some depth to it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's also very comforting. There's not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: action going on. It's more of a chill sort of vibe. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Garfield and Snoopy definitely one and two on
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  Speaker 1: my list. And I love the Grinch, and my hot
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  Speaker 1: take is I do not like the Jim Carrey Grinch
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  Speaker 1: at all. I actually hate that version of that character
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  Speaker 1: because it's very dark it's very ugly looking. That movie
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  Speaker 1: directed by Ron Howard from the early two thousands is
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  Speaker 1: a very ugly looking movie. But that animated special from
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, directed by Chuck Jones of Looney Tunes fame.
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  Speaker 1: He brought that book's energy to the big screen, or
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  Speaker 1: rather the small screen, because it was a television special,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you lost that with the Jim Carrey movie.
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  Speaker 1: So as far as cartoons go, Garfield, Grinch, Charlie Brown,
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  Speaker 1: those are my top three. What about you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I don't really watch a ton of
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  Speaker 2: cartoon Christmas. I didn't even know Garfield had one. And
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  Speaker 2: so you're sitting here temming this. My kids love Garfield.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I should play that for them, But
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  Speaker 2: then you didn't sell it very well.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't sell it. I talked this about losing loved ones.
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  Speaker 1: Your kids should be learning about this at some point.
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  Speaker 1: They watch The Lion King.
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  Speaker 2: Yet But it's a Christmas movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a thirty minute Christmas special. Okay, have
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  Speaker 1: you showed them Frost through the Snowman.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they've seen that one. I like that one.
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  Speaker 1: That's a classic. What about have they seen the Gringe.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't. I might have to ask them now
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  Speaker 2: do they like the Cartoon one better? Or Jim Carrey?
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  Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I think I like the Cartoon
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  Speaker 2: one better?
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  Speaker 1: Is there any other specials? Or I always watched Rudolph,
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  Speaker 1: Rudolph's Great. We were talking about that on the Morning
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  Speaker 1: show today.
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  Speaker 2: But I was always into the real ones. Did you
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  Speaker 2: ever watch the Santa Claus Not not the home Allen Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: not the Tim Allen one, but the older one. I
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  Speaker 2: was like the the rich girl. But then there's the
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  Speaker 2: boy that I think he may even not even have
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  Speaker 2: a home. I don't remember. It's been a long time
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  Speaker 2: as I've watched that. He still love that movie?
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  Speaker 1: Is that from the eighties? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Insane? They played it every Christmas Eve. Do you remember
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  Speaker 2: this movie?
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  Speaker 1: I know of it. I did not see it, though.
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  Speaker 2: I love Okay, well that's on your list. I loved
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  Speaker 2: that movie so much, and then I made my husband
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  Speaker 2: watch it a couple of years ago, and he was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is not a good It's one of those when
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  Speaker 2: you watch as a kid. It's amazing. Yeah, I've tried
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  Speaker 2: to make my kids watch it. They also didn't think
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  Speaker 2: it was amazing. I thought it was so cool because
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  Speaker 2: it brought to life Santa and showed you his workshop
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  Speaker 2: and all the elms, and.
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  Speaker 1: It probably looked cool because the eighties. I felt it
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  Speaker 1: such a good job with capturing that Christmas magic. And
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  Speaker 1: now modern movies I think do a poor representation of Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about the movie Red One starring Dwayne the
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  Speaker 1: Rock Johnson, and it's just an ugly looking movie. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like a modern superhero movie from DC Comics, and
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  Speaker 1: it's very just ugly and dark and gloomy, and it
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  Speaker 1: loses that Christmas spirit. But you mentioned the Santa Claus.
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  Speaker 1: I actually watched that one in theaters and with Tim Allen.
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  Speaker 1: With Tim Allen, yeah, you know Tim Allen. When that
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  Speaker 1: movie came out, he had the number one book on
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  Speaker 1: the New York Times Best Selling List, he had the
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  Speaker 1: number one television show with Home Improvement, and the number
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  Speaker 1: one movie in theaters. And I don't think that will
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  Speaker 1: ever be duplicated again by anybody, by anybody. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: imagine it because usually when you're doing TV, you're not
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  Speaker 1: releasing a number one movie, and let alone writing a book.
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  Speaker 1: But when I saw that movie in theaters. I specifically remember,
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  Speaker 1: and I just turned six years old, so I was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty young kid. And I remember my father taking
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  Speaker 1: my brother to the bathroom and he made me guard
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  Speaker 1: the seats because we didn't have assigned seats at this time.
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  Speaker 1: I just turned six years old, like a month prior,
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  Speaker 1: and he just leaves me alone in the movie theater
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  Speaker 1: to guard these seats. It was like the most anxiety
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  Speaker 1: I had at any point in my life, very frightening.
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  Speaker 2: I like that movie, The Santa Claus.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Even the sequel's not that bad. I
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  Speaker 1: know they made a third one as well, and the
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  Speaker 1: television show. They brought it back in recent years on
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  Speaker 1: Disney Plus. But it looked ugly. It looked like a
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  Speaker 1: modern sort of vibe, and I think it lost the
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  Speaker 1: magical sort of just the way it looked that nineties
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  Speaker 1: feel to it it. You know, it lost it with
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  Speaker 1: the modern technology. Unfortunately. Any other Christmas like Chris Vacation
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  Speaker 1: or what about die Hard? I know people say Diehard's
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  Speaker 1: a Christmas movie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I Christmas Vacation. I did watch that one pretty recently,
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  Speaker 2: since my husband's favorite. I do like that one. That
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  Speaker 2: one's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Let think it's overrated.
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  Speaker 2: You think I think so funny.
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  Speaker 1: I like a Christmas story more.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like a Christmas story. I don't know why.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I just have never been into it.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Did you like The Wonder Years growing up?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: So that's shocking because it feels like a very Wonder
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Years but set in the forties, like you know, you
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: have the narrator reminiscing about his childhood.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe, but I don't know. Maybe I just never sat
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: down and watched it with attention. But I didn't. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: just never. I don't know. It is always fine. The
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Christmas vacation was good. I what was the other one?
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of? Elf?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Elf?
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I love ELF. I think that one's so much fun
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: because Will Ferrell is just hilarious in Elf. There's one
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: more I know. I can't think of it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Hmmm, save Christmas.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: But I do love that. You know all the Earnest
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: movies that on a morning show.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: It was one of our first morning shows. I went
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: over all the Earnest lore.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: That's when I realized you have some serious, serious television knowledge. Yeah,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I think I did. I bring up Ernest and then
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: you went on to like rattle off all six movies
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I just sat there and shot.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I think there's nine Earnest movies. Yeah, I think they
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: need to reboot the Earnest franchise at some point. I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: know he's no longer around, Jim Varney, but you can
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: animate him. You could, You could have somebody. There's a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: guy on TikTok TikTok that does like a fantastic Earnest impression,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and I think they should do a biopic of Jim
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Varney or bring back that character. But I think we're
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: done with just talking about other Christmas movies besides Home Alone,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: which we're gonna get to. Unless you have one that
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: jumps to mine, Is there any one that we make?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Can There is one? But I can't remember.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Jingle all the way. No, you ever watch that one?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: No, it's some of that you said Christmas Vacation.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: What about It's a Wonderful Life.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I do like that one.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: That's really good. I watched that for the first time
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: ever last year and it is a masterpiece.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: It is a very good movie. I haven't watched it
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: in a long time. Maybe I need to put that
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: back on my list. This one, well, there's a Christmas Carol,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: which I think is a really good movie as well, but.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: The Muppets Christmas Carol is even better.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: That is also better. You mentioned Diehard. That's the one
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I wanted to cover. This is an age old argument.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Is it a Christmas movie? Is it not a Christmas movie?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: You know it takes place during the holiday season. Yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and it's got Christmas music. There's Christmas jokes all throughout.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: You know, the character's name is Holly. They say ho, ho,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I have a machine gun. It's a different type of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Christmas movie, but I still think it is a Christmas movie. Now,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: there are Halloween movies that don't necessarily take place during Halloween.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: You know, your Friday in the thirteenth movies are usually
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: in the summer, but I still think of them as
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Halloween movies. So I still think you could necessitate a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: die Hard as a Christmas movie. Is it as Christmasy
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: as something like The Grinch or Peanuts? Probably not, But
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I still think of it as a Christmas type movie.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Same thing with lethal weapons, same thing with gremlins. All
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Christmas movies.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: All right. I did like Diehard, though I didn't think
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I would, but I did.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I think it can make an argument it's the greatest
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: action movie of all time? Can you First of all,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the late great Alan Rickman as Hans Kruber is probably
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the best villain in any movie. And then John McClain,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you know, played by Bruce Willis. He just does such
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: a good job of the everyday sort of dude. You
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: know he's not because in the eighties you had all
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: these hulking, steroid type action hero so Arnold and Stallone
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and Van dimm they were all Jack to the guilds.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And then you have you know, Bruce Willis come along
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and he just looks like an average everyday guy. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that was sort of the trend moving forward into the
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: nineties where you had guys like Keanu Reeves and Mel
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Gibson and more of an average looking type of guy
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: as far as your body type goes. And Bruce Willis
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: just that role. Perfectly great ensemble cast and in my
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: opinion a Christmas.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Movie was he was. It was a very good movie.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: And Alan Rickman, you brought him up. He'll forever be
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: snaped me.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Though for now they're recasting him. They're doing more Harry Potter.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Huh what Yeah, they're doing apparently the whole book series
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: over again on HBO. Mex so I don't know why
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they're doing it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Because because they can. But it's just.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: It's been done. It was just done like twenty years ago.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Why not just create more stories?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: And this is only going to bring controversy because you're
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: always going to compare it to the originals and it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: never gonna live up to that. Yeah, you know that
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: should be coming out. I'm exciting about it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We need we need some more originality.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: And speaking of originality, when Home Alone came out in
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, it was an original story written by John Hughes,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: directed by Christopher Columbus, not the guy who founded in America,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a different Christopher Columbus and John Hughes. It's so interesting
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: because this guy in the eighties was creating these iconic
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: characters and movies, you know, the Pretty and Pinks and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the breakfast Club in Ferris Bueller's Day Off and all
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: these like really just revolutionary type of films. And then
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in the nineties he started making these kids movies and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I like Home Alone, I don't like Home Alone two
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: as much. And then he would produce and write other
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: movies like Beethoven and Home Alone three, and he sort
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of fell off and really stopped making movies in the nineties.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: It's just such a weird career choice. Unfortunately, he's no
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: longer around. He did die over a decade ago at
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: this point. But he's one of the great filmmakers, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: he wrote a fantastic story with that original Home Alone,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: which made a ton of money on an eighteen million
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: dollar budget. It made four hundred and seventy seven million dollars.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: That's in nineteen ninety money.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It was only an eighteen million dollar budget.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Wow, it surprises me.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, movies costs so much less back then
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: because they weren't doing the lavish special effects. A lot
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of these people were unknowns. Really. Besides John Candy, majority
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of the cast hasn't been in a starring role. Catherine
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: O'Hara had you know, bit rolls here and there was
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a television star, but she wasn't this megastar. And McCaulay
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: culkin was you know, a bit player in Uncle Buck,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't McCaulay culkin from two years later. And
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that's why the budget for Home Alone two is you know,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: ten million dollars more twenty eight million dollar budget, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it didn't make as much money, made three hundred and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: fifty nine million dollars, which is still a lot of money.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And that's not including those VHS sales. Because everybody had
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: this movie on VHS. We wore out that Home Alone
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: VHS tape like I remember it to this day. It
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: started off with a commercial from Pepsi and had mccaullay
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: cochin dancing with a Pepsi can in his hand. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that's one of those movies I vividly remember watching, just constantly,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: over and over again. Scott, what's Jancase.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Got Pepsy for me?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Who knew? Did you happen to watch any of the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Home Alone movies in theaters?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I'm pretty sure I watched Home Alone one
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in theaters.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You didn't see the second one, though, I don't remember.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I don't remember if I saw it in theaters.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I would love to That would be one of the movies.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I would love to go back in time without any
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: memory of watching it and watch it for the first
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: time with an audience that first the second the first one, yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: not the second one. The second one. We'll get to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: as to why I have issues with it. I've talked
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: about it before, but we'll get.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: To talk about it in March. And so this is
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: why we're redoing doings at the proper season.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I just did rewatch it. I did not
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: watch the first one yet again, I usually watched that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. But I did watch the third one, which
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: had a thirty two million dollar budget, which is more
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: than the first two movies, and yet it only made
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: seventy nine million dollars. Now because it was terrible, it
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, and I think it had some
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: positive things to it. We'll get to that in a second.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: But on paper, and I say this all the time,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so I hate to regurgitate myself. And guys that have
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: listened to the podcast might have heard this before. You
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: might think that that's a profit. Okay, it cost thirty
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: two million dollars and it made seventy nine million dollars,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so it made fifty million dollars or so. That is
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: not accurate because that's the production budget, is thirty two
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: million dollars. That does not account for any of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: advertisement that this movie had to put out there. So
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: anytime you see a commercial on TV, that's not free.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: The television companies aren't just like, yeah, we'll play your
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: ads for free. That costs money. If this had a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl ad, that's a lot of money. If this
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: had posters all throughout on buses and then you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: other different venues, that's money. Obviously. Now with social media,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to have posts on Instagram and YouTube ads, that's money.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And usually the production budget you have to double that number,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: sometimes you know, triple it, depending on how much advertising
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: they do. So in theory I would I'd say this
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: movie probably cost seventy million dollars to make, and that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: being generous. So it only made ten million dollars profit,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: which is why we never got another theatrical Home Alone movie.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The rest were just directive TV, a directive video.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Right, and my kids started watching Home Alone four oh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: so I caught a little bit about that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I know a little bit about it.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: That frustrated me so much.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Well, with that one, they have Kevin back and they
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: have Motor but it's not Kevin No, and it's not
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Marv No. It's French Stewart from Third Rock from the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Sun as Marv. And why I don't understand why they
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: thought that would be the idea to go with that franchise.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But in Home Alone three, they decided to do something
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: completely different. And this is where because the last time
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I saw Home Alone three was probably when I rented
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it on VHS in nineteen ninety eight.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: So did you like it?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Then? No? I did not like it. In nineteen ninety eight.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I was shocked that this is not a Christmas movie.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I rewatched it, and I was also shocked.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It's sort of dawned on me, like, O, wait, this
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: is not even this is not a Christmas movie. It
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't take place during Christmas.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Because they say the date. They're like, oh, it was
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: January sixth. They took this taxi ride home. I go January.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Then they say, oh, look for the tree that's going
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to be left outside, so it's post Christmas, which was very,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: very jarring to me.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I think, you know what, I think
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: this movie would have been fine. It would have been
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a good movie, probably would have made more money had
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: they just not called it Home Alone three.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I thought the same exact thing, except the money thing.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, I don't think it would have
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: made as much money. I think having no, I think
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: having that brand of Home Alone probably helped it get
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: people to watch the movie, but I think it would
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: have made for a better experience from people watching it
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't branded Home Alone three, because you set
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the bar so high you have those expectations. I think
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it could have been with some minor tweaking, just its
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: own thing, and people would have said, yeah, it's kind
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of like Home Alone, but it's its own thing, Because yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that is definitely one of the main thoughts that I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: had is this does not need to be a Home
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Alone movie, but they try and do some Home Alone things.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Which drove me nuts.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, so let's just get the main plot out of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the way. Okay, So first of all, it's not a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Christmas movie. It takes place in January, as I said,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and it starts off with terrorists, and I'm like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: What am I want to start off with the family?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: No, No, it doesn't start off with the classic Home
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Alone theme. So there's no John Williams theme song, like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I said, though it is written by John News Chris
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Columbus has nothing to do with this as far as
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: directing goes, and yeah, doesn't have the Home Alone theme,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't start off with the family which I would have
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: started off with. But you're introduced to these terrorists and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: they're receiving a deadly computer chip from North Korea, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what kid is going to like this plot?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: This is so just it's way too heavy of a story.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So this chip gets put in a toy car so
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: it could get through customs at the airport, and then
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: obviously there's some mishandling of the bag and the eventually
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that toy car with the computer chip in it that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I guess can end the world ends up in the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: hands of Young Alex because they put it in a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: remote control car and Young Alex receives it from a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: woman that he shovels the snow with, and the criminals
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: pretty much have to do whatever they can to get
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the chip back. So instead of criminals going from town
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to town or house to house stealing stuff like the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Wet Bandits did in that original movie, we're talking some
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: serious stuff happening here with terrorists.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like hardcore criminals, criminal enterprise.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And the other thing I was really jarring was guns. Guns.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: All throughout this movie.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: There were and there were also children's toys that looked
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: exactly like guns. Yes, was weird to me.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so young Alex, who I'm probably gonna call Kevin
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah, he's holding a gun that looks
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: exactly like a gun, has no orange tip on it,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and it ends up like shooting bu. But it's just
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a weird image to screen grab an image of this
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: young kid holding a gun probably most definitely would not
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: have been done today. To me, I think the worst
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: part of this movie is the villains.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I don't find them funny at all, And that was
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to me the story There was fun of them.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: There's too many, Yes, I couldn't keep track of who's who.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Some of them kind of look alike. You have the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: one woman, but then the other three main guys that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: are on the ground they're doing their terrorist work, but
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: then you have the North Koreans. It's just it's way
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: too complicated of a story I think for a young kid.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that said, my kids loved it
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: because they the Dirty Tricks. They think that's just so funny.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so explain that your kids called the end of
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the movies the Dirty Tricks.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for all the home alones when they you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: when he booby traps and gets the bad guys, that's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the dirty tricks sections, and they're always like, that's that's
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the key. They do like the movie. So that's why
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I think it would have probably been okay if you
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: hadn't named it Home Alone three. I'm as an adult,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I want the next Home Alone. And
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: it's not that I love Home Alone.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Won't.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: We watch it every Thanksgiving night, so I do watch
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it with a group whoever is at our house. We
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: all watch it together and never gets old. I'm not
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: watching Home Alone three again. It's like a movie that
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you watch once with your kids, over and done. They
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: might watch it again. I'm not watching it again.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad that I watched it, just because it's
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: been a quarter of a century since I last watched it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And again I forgot the main fact that it wasn't
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: even a Christmas movie. I thought there were some positives
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to the movie before we get to all the negatives.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: The choice of music wasn't bad. They had some good
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: tracks throughout the movie, and that's John Hughes. He always
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: picks great music to go along with his movies. I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: thought the kid, the young kid who played Alex, I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: thought he was fine. I thought he was a decent
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: child actor, and it was a nice change of pace
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to go from the complete brett that Kevin is. You
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: know he is, he can be a handful.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I have a bone to pick with
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you and Liam about calling Kevin a brat. Y'all really
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: hated on him in the your last episode about home alone,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: and you know, Kevin was framed. Buzz was the complete brat,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: and Buzz was really mean to Kevin, and Kevin was
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: just trying to stick up for himself. I get it,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and then he gets in trouble for it now he
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: could he said some mean things to his mom. He
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: was frustrated.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Listen, I understand that, the frustration of being a kid,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and when you're being framed from an older brother. I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: have an older brother. He's caused him nonsense. I've been
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you know, blamed for it. But still it's such a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: change of pace from the back talking to the mom.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Because the relationship with Alex and his mom.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Is a little different, it's not.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Really there's no turmoil with that. He's lovey dovey. He's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: a kind kid. He's he's very very much more kind.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There's not really much growth with that. Character. You know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he's sort of a nice kid at the beginning, he's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a nice cad at the end, and that was a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: nice change of pace. They didn't try to replicate that
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: same sassy brat, in my opinion, attitude of Kevin McAllister.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: A big issue I had was with the mom because
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: did they try and find someone that looked exactly like
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Katherine O'Hara. I mean, come on, blue eyes, the red hair,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the same haircuts, Hames style, same mannerisms. I mean, if
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you're trying to do something different, don't cass somebody that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: looks exactly like, you know, Catherine O'Hara, who's brilliant in
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: her role. So that was a big issue I had,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: though I said the main issue though was the villains,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: because the villains, you know, Joe Peshi and Daniel Sterr,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and they have such great chemistry. They're such good actors.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Pesci is an Oscar winning actor. He's
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: one of the best actors in Raging Bull and Goodfellas.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. So to get him, this guy who's known
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: for all these raunchy roles and mobster type movies, to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: put him in this caliber of a movie elevates it
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to such an extreme and Daniel Stern, he ain't no slub.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He puts on some great acting performances throughout his lifetime.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: To get these two guys together. Their chemistry is so
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: good and they're so funny and witty, and you're not
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: not rooting for them, but you're laughing at the stuff
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that they're doing. And when they finally get their comeuppets
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: at the end, and they do, you know, have the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: dirty trick scenes, they you know, they's substance to it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: because you're laughing at them. And with this, I thought
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the tricks and the pranks and the violence was all good.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: It was all good, but there was nothing behind it. Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: so when the hits would land, there was nothing to it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna equate it to pro wrestling. There's a lot
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of great pro wrestling matches out there. But if they
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: don't have a good backstory and they're doing really cool
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: moves and it looks good, but there's no crowd reaction
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and the audience has no investment in the story, then
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: it's not having the same effect. And that's the same
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: issue I had with Home Alone three. Yeah, they're doing
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: really violent stuff, and there's some violent stuff that I
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: thought was very funny, but what it's happened who is
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: happening too, isn't funny. And they're not selling it well.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: They're trying to be Harry and Mark, but they're failing miserably.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And there's just too many. There were so many things
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: right now that said I do, and I'm using my
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: children as as my full sample of telling you this,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: But I do think kids like it because they don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: care if there are substance behind the dirty tricks. They
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: just think it's hilarious. But I agree with you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: It's weird that they start off with the villains but
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you never connect with them. No, I think there's partly
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: as there's just too many. It's too extreme for a
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: home alone this scenario. And I missed starting with the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: family because scar Joe's in it. I had forgotten that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, young Scarlett Johansson, I don't know how you twelve, thirteen,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: fourteen years old is in this movie and I've never
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: heard her talk about it. I would love to actually
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: do some research to see if I can find any
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: interviews of her talking about this movie. But yeah, the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: kid has an older brother, and an older sister. I
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: mean the older brother sort of like buzz he likes
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: raunchy sort of. Yeah, I'm curious. So when I'm seem
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: like they show like a woman with large breasts and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: they're sort of cover it up. If a scene like
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that's happening with your kids, do you explain to them?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Do you just try to like distract them and say,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: don't even look at the screen, or what's the deal
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: with that?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: M good question. I'm trying to Yeah. Usually I will
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: either try to fast forward it really fast if I
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: know it's coming, or I'll distract them.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always weird whenever I'm watching something with my
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: niece or nephew and then there's yeah, something that's just
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm not even there, you know, parents, So
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're allowed to watch or
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: talk about. So that's the issue with a lot of
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: nineties Yeah movies, they have adult themes and gross stuff
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: every now and then.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: They always they never cease to surprise me because I'm like, oh,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I love this movie as a kid, and then I
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: watch it, I'm like, Wow, there's more to this than
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I thought there was.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And cigarettes and a bunch of weird stuff that you
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: didn't expect to be in the kids movie.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Really was probably shouldn't be showing you this, guys. Yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I think that part in Home on and three went
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: right over their heads. But yeah, I just I think
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that I did not know. I had no interest in
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the villains. It's just the whole thing. The plot was
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: just too much. And then the fact that this kid,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Alex is an eight year old and he's like, oh,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I wonder what's in this car that they didn't they
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: still want the car and oh, there's a chip here.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what that. No eight year old is going
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to do that unless he's a genius.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Well he was. He was a smarter than the average
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: sort of eight year old kid. But yeah, I don't
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: think a normal kid would understand the implications of having
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a chip. He wouldn't know the difference of what a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: normal chip that's supposed to be in this car is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: supposed to look like versus some terrorist chip that can
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: end the world. So, like we said, it is a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: weird plot. Is as we have construction happening here at
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: WHPC as we're recording, So it is what it is.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: It's something we have to deal with. But yeah, I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: didn't hate the movie. That is the main takeaway that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I had while watching this movie is I did not
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: hate what I was watching, but I judged on different scale.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Am I judging this on the same scale of an
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Oscar type of movie? No, I'm judging this on the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: scale of what like your kids would be watching a
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: five year old and eight year old of ten year old?
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Would they have enjoyed watching this? And I thought it
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: was decent. I didn't think it was dumbing it down
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: really too much. The only issue is and the main
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: problem is and it's what you said, is it's named
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: home alone. Three?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Can we talk about the mouse and the parrot? Those
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: also annoyed me?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Why I thought I one of the only laugh out
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: loud moments I had was with the parrot. I thought
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the parrot had some good moments to it. Yeah. So
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: in this house, Kevin's got a bird that's repeating a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: bunch of houselex. Oh what did I say, Kevin? Kevin?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I knew I would do it. I knew I would
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: do it. So Alex has a bird and then he
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: also has a pet. Is it a rat or is
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: it a mouse? I guess it's a mouse and he's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: causing mischief, and you know, going in one of the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: criminals growing regent, and again they're repeating a bunch of
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the same gags because you know, the tarantula was on
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: his head and he told him don't move, doing the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: same thing with the rat.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: But I feel like only I feel that's the only
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: reason they had the mouse rat was to recreate the tarantula.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: But then he's talking through it all throughout. I'm like,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: what kid had I just maybe kids have rats for pets.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, a gerbil.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe that's the Maybe that's why the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: movie only made seventy nine million dollars. Stacy, it should
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: have had the gerbil instead of the rat. Right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: But the parrot, Okay, I do love parrots, don't get
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: me wrong, but this parrot has like the full command
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of the English language, which I feel like is not accurate.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So maybe I'm looking at it from again an adult perspective,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like this is so stupid because no parrot could interact
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: like that. But it just drove me nut.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I look at these movies like cartoons. To me, they're
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: just you know, live action Tom and Jerry live action
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: looney tune sort of thing. So, you know, a tweety bird,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you know, in real life, would he be able to talk? No,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So I look at this as sort of just an
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: extension of a cartoon, especially with the violence, because if
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: these people were actually going to get hit with these objects,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: you know, a lawnmower that is moving falls down on
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a man's skull and he's able to continue, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: moving forward. So I just look at this as you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: slapstick three stooges, looney tune sort of thing. But I'm
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: glad your kids enjoyed it. And now that you said
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: they're watching Home Alone four, there's a fifth one and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the sixth ones they see.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be present for those. I'm just
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and put that out there. That's ridiculous
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: because I did start watching Home Alone four with them
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and it just is confusing that it's
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: supposed to be Kevin, it's not Kevin.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: And it's said in modern days because I think they
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: have modern technology, but he looks younger than he did,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: as they have a.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Whole smartphone and our kids are like, well, can we
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: have a smart home? I'm like, that doesn't exist and they're.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: In a giant mansion as well.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Kevin's parents were even richer than they were before,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: but it's not his parents. No, no Ah, I can't
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: go on the.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Inconclusion home alone three. You know, it ends with you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the criminals getting there, you know, do justice and Kevin
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: pulling pranks and trying to get this toy car away
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: from them and he's driving it throughout the neighborhood and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: then eventually it comes to a full on home alone
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: event with the dirty tricks and all the pranks and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: traps set up and whatnot. And then eventually the criminals
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, do get arrested and Kevin throughout the movie.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: And this is something Alex. You need a Kevin counter
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Alex throughout the movie. And this is something I definitely
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: hate with movies, is when you know what person is
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: doing right and then they try and do right and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: then they end up being told what they did was wrong.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: So he tried to tell the police, you know, there's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: robbers in the neighborhood's house, and then the cops would
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: come down and be there's no robbers, kids, And that
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: happens like two or three times, and there's something.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: They're so like, oh, you're just seeing things and he's like, no,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not. They didn't even investigate. That kind of drove
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: me crazy.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they didn't do a full on I mean,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: can you just take fingerprints? I mean, there are people
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: all throughout this house, you think you'd be able to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: tell there was a robber there. Then they have another
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: old lady who's trying to be like I guess it's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: sort of a old man Marley and the Pigeon Lady
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: because she's sort of gruff and tough at the beginning
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: of the movie. But at least they don't go the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: full route of trying to replicate that same story. So
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the plus is is it tries to do its own thing.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: At times. I think it does too much home alone.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: But I enjoyed the acting. I enjoyed the violence. The
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: criminals were the violence. The violence was great. Criminals were bad.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: But as far as like really bad kids movies out there,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: they are far worse, Oh for sure. I mean I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: would give it like out of ten, I'd give it
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: maybe like a five point one, which isn't anything i'd
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: watch again or anything good, And it's nowhere on the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: same scale. As the first two movies, but unlike the
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: second movie, at least it's trying its own thing with
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a different type of story.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I would say, your kids love it, you probably won't.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Let's move on to what once you like.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I thought of one more point though, that I want
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to tell you another reason why my kids liked Home
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Alone three a lot. I asked, my middle guy is
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: obsessed with cars, and he loves that this car takes
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: center stage. So the car has the video camera strapped
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: to the top, and he uses the car to try to,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you know, thwart the bad guys. That was another reason
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: they liked it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: But that goes on.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: It does go on too long time. They loved it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a it's like a fifteen minute sequence
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of the car being chased by the robbers, and yeah,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I guess it's good for a kid's attention span. I'm
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: shocked they didn't try to market that car toy and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: just try and sell it off, because they did that
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: in Home Alone too with the talk Boy, because that
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: was the thing that was created for the movie, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: they were realizing a lot of kids like actually want
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: this product, and then they released you know, the Home
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Alone to talk boy that you could get.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Now you can be as clever as Kevin with Tiger's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: new talkboy tablecorder. Stop rolling on me, Stop rolling on me.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: It even has control.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: My kids were home early, Hi, kids were homely. Let's
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: go back to the first two home alone movies. So
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you mentioned you think you saw the first one in theaters.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Did you own either of them on vhs?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I don't remember, but I know I have the DVD.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I have the first one. You know it
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: was we played so often, and I think maybe one
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of the other issues. And I talked about this on
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the first home Alone podcast I did with Liam. I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: didn't really grow up with the second movie. I mean
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: we watched it, we would rent it, we would watch
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it if it was on TV, but it wasn't in
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: our rotation so much so, so I think that could
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: be another reason as to why I prefer the first movie.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I never got your answer as to which movie you
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: like more, Is it the first one or second one?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: The first one for sure, It's just it's such a classic.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I liked that they're in their house. I love the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: chaos at the beginning of the movie. They just do
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that whole part so well. Of the holiday chaos, and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: then the Uncle is just hilarious. You get so much
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: more out of it as an adult too, Like and
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: when you're a kid, it's just fun. It's a fun movie.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: When you're an adult, there's just so much. It's a
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: little bit deeper, like the Uncle's so funny, buzz makes
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: me so mad as an adult, you know. It's just
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I love Home Alone one. It's one of my favorite movies.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: It's my number one Christmas.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: But I say it's in my top ten favorite movies
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: of all time. It is a movie, like you said,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: you watch every single Thanksgiving and it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Never gets old. Every year. I'm excited to watch it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I notice something new exactly.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: It's just so detailed. Like you mentioned this the last
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: time we talked about Home or maybe on the podcast
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you talked about how there's a little he talks about
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the micro machines in the very beginning, like Kevin, you
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: need to move these. I had never picked up on
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that until this year when I watched it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of foreshadowing and setting up different jokes.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, even so to this day, you'll see memes
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of discoveries of the movies. There's weird things throughout the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: movie that are urban legends. Like there's a scene at
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the airport where there's a guy that looks just like Elvis.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: There's a guy that they think was actually Elvis Presley
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and he never died and he was appearing in Home Alone.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: So it's something like that. Like thirty years after the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: movie's released, they're still finding new things every now and then.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I don't hate the second one, but I rewatched it
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: again just a few weeks ago, and I found myself
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: even more frustrated this time while watching the movie. And
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: there are good things with it. Tim Curry, I love
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Tim Curry. I think he's fantastic. Rob Schneider not so much,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: but he's not that bad. But it's the same stuff
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that I said in the first podcast is they're just
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: regurgitating all the things that worked in that first movie.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And I can understand why a kid would like it,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: but as a man in his mid thirties, after watching
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the first one and then watching the second one, it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: just it's frustrating that they couldn't try something different. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: love the movie Gremlins. Gremlins two is so good because
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: it's so different from the first movie. It's tongue in cheek.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: It's poking fun. At the first movie, it's doing a
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: lot of you know, breaking the four wall. It's a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: completely different tone. It's more comedic, it's more chaotic. With
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Home Alone too, it's just home Alone. But they're in
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the city.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that is That's a really
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: cool part of it is they're in New York City,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: which is a city that I feel like all kids
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: want to visit. So it's fine, I think for kids
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: to see him go throughout the city. The toy store
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: is amazing.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I have an issue with the toy store. Why this
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: is actually an issue. I figured out this this week
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: as because I watched the movie like a week ago,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm a big collector of vintage toys, especially from
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: that time, so like late eighties, early nineties, Ninja Turtles,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Power Rangers, video games from that time. You go into
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that toy store, there's not a single toy in the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: toy store. It's all just decorations. There's like a Teddy
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Bear and like vintage toys from the forties. Where are
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the actual toys in this toy store.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: That's probably a licensing issue.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Of all these toy companies would have been frothing at
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the mouth to have a license with Home Alone. So
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: if they actually went above and beyond and said, you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: they got Pizza Hut, they got Coca Cola in the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in the second one, and they got all these other
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: properties that are attached to this this movie, you don't
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: think Mattel or Hasbro would have been like, yo, feature
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: are transformers in this movie? They didn't even try. But
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I will say, actually, the more they think about it
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and I just thought of this now, it does make
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: it timeless. Ah, And that is an important thing with
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: these movies. Yes, there are a few things that are dated,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: maybe some of the hairstyles.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Well, also the fact that there were no cell phone
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: like now Home Alone.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't have course of course, because you would just text
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: mom you left me at home, or Mom, I'm in
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: New York City, Kevin. Actually, there's a few things I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: need to piggyback on back to Home Alone too, and
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: some cut scenes that actually took place in that movie.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: But just back to that toy store and the timelessness.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I love that about the movie because they had the music,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: whether it's John Williams score like The score by John
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Williams is fantastic. But then also the musical tracks, they're
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: all like fifties and sixties music. Yeah, and it seems
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: like a movie that could have taken place in the
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, and you know, it's that late eighties,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: early nineties. I think they filmed the first one probably
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: in eighty nine. And I just love the way movies
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: look like the movies like Gremlins, movies like Goonies, movies
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: like Indiana Jones they had. They were shot on films,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: so they look different. There's a different type of vibe
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: with those types of movies, and you lose that on
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: digital with all these modern movies are filmed on that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: But the timelessness of this movie is one of those
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: things as to why generations of today like it because
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem dated. It doesn't seem old it doesn't
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: seem old fashioned. But I think older generations could also
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: like it because it doesn't seem modern. They're not saying,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Skippity Toilet and Baby Gronk and the Rizzler.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: They're not like, if this movie came out in twenty twelve,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: they probably have a reference to the Kardashians, they'd probably
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: have a reference to the Jersey Shore if that was
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: out at the time, Like they didn't do any timely
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: sort of jokes that ruined that movie.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I wonder if they intentionally did it that way.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I wonder if John Hughes was thinking that. He probably
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was thinking, I want to make this a movie that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: will last forever, essentially, and it's still playing to this
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: day every single year. You said you watch it. I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: watch it. Kevin McAllister himself, Macaulay Culkin is going around
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: tour right now, touring the movie, just you know, showing
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it with audiences and doing a Q and a.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: We need to get there.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I would love to have done that. I know they
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: just hadn't come under here. Yeah, they did the New
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Jersey Show.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Why did he come to New York?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Does any probably live here?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: No? I think he's an LA guy. He's an LA guy.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: But I want to talk about one pivotal thing that
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: happens in home alone too, And it makes sense now
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: as to why they never got to this aspect. So
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: when Kevin's on the plane. Initially there was a scene
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: where Kevin was speaking to a college student and she's
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: talking to him about a time that she got lost
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. I want to say, and she says that
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: she didn't want to go to the cop because she
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: was worried about being placed in like a foster care
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. And that explains why Kevin never goes
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to anybody and says, Hey, I'm in the city, I'm lost.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: They've changed the scene. I think he sits next to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a foreign guy.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I guess he could have said at some
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: point in the conversation with the college kid.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: He could have said, I've already been left home alone.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: If I get lost again, you know, my kid parents
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: are gonna take me away, something.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Like that, like how they've gotten in the conversation, because
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the point of the French guy as he's saying, like, oh,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I've never been to Florida, and the guy's basically like
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: in French, I don't understand, I don't speak. So he
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: says to someone they mentioned where he thinks he's going,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: but maybe they thought that was stronger for him to
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: get on the plane and still not know. And then
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: he puts on his headphones and he doesn't hear them
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: announce the city they're actually going to.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: But there is a bunch of cut scenes, and unfortunately
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the DVD and Blu Ray releases of Home Alone really
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: don't have too many extras or deleted scenes are pretty
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: much anything. It's all about that first movie. There's no
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: even DVD commentary track. But there is a YouTube channel
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: called I Think I Saw It on Hats Off Entertainment.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: It's a great YouTube channel. They break down eighties and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: nineties movies and talk about some of these lost scenes
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: from that movie. And if you want to find out
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: some of the more lost scenes from that original lost
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: in New York Home Alone too, definitely check out that
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Will you link to it in the show notes.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Oh great idea, Stacy, brilliant idea. So in conclusion, we
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: both like the first Home Alone more. There are aspects
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: of Home Alone two that I like. I you know,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: obviously as a New Yorker, I like the idea that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: they're there. I just don't like like the main things
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: as an adult is I don't like the relationship with
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the mom in the second movie. I think you lose
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: some of that heart. I don't feel any sympathy for her.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: She lost her kid twice and she sort of I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: mean so did the dad, Like I know, but the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: mom and the day they don't focus on the dad
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: They don't And apparently what's the actress's.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Name again, Catherine O'Harra.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was worried about that, and so they went
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: back and filmed more scenes Irad making it clear that
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: she was, you know, worried about Kevin. I guess in
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: the first cut they didn't. She felt like it just
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't strong enough.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: There's also a cut scene that they talk about on
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: this YouTube video about Kevin's dad actually telling off Uncle
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Frank really and it was like one of those moments
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that I wish I did get to see because this
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: guy pretty much just gets away with being a jackass
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: two movies, Frank exactly. But as far as the you know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: the the other things that I really just get upset
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: with this movie is I can't really care for the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: pigeon lady. I just don't find that character interesting. I
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: find her to be scary throughout the entirety of the movie.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I don't see the growth of her characters. She's still
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the same homeless person at the beginning of the movie
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the movie. And it doesn't
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: really have that happy, warm ending that you get with
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the old man. You know, he has no relationship with
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: his son, Kevin talks to him and helps his life.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: He does nothing for Pigeon Lady besides her a turtle dove.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Doesn't she like He encourages her to get back together
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: with her family.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that scene at all. I don't think
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: she has a family.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe I confuse the two movies.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't take I don't think there's any moment
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: of her changing. Again. There was another deleted scene where
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: she ends up hanging out with the cops that come
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: down and they spend Christmas with her, but that wasn't
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: even filmed. And I just don't find that character to
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: be interesting. And the old man stuff as an adult
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: gets to me because, like you said, as a kid,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the dirty trick stuff, all that stuff, that's the bread
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: and butter, that's what you're there for. But as an adult,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I like to get to more of the sympathetic and
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you know, sort of growing of characters. And old Man
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and mother are far superior in Home Alone one than
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Old rather Pigeon Lady and Mother in Home Alone two.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I do like the scene where the mom passes out though,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: like she realizes we've done this again and she just
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: falls to the floor.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Such a cop out. Oh we've done it again. It's
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: just do something different. It's the same problem I had
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: with the Hangover movies. It's the same thing, like you're
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: having another hangover, you're losing another kid. So again, maybe
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you just end the franchise. Maybe it shouldn't have been
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: a sequel. They wanted to do a third one. In fact,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: they want the film Home Alone two and three back
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: to back because they knew their time was short with Kevin.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I wonder what they're calling their original plan was for
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the third one, with like you gonna lose them again?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what you could do with the character.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: It just seems extreme. I feel like you. I will
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: say about Home Alone two, I thought they did a
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: good job of figuring out how they were gonna lose
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Kevin again, because you can't just repeat the same miss like,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: no parent is gonna let that happen again after the
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I think the characters are so interesting, and I think
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: the family dynamic is so great. I would have mind
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: just a movie with these characters that isn't Home Alone.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It could just be McAllister's summer vacation, and it's what
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: they do during summer vacation. I don't think you need
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: to do the same formula of them doing the same
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: plot from the first movie. Take these characters, have them
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: go on a road trip like Combine John Hughes Movie's
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Vacation with this, and then you could have a whole
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: other franchise. I don't think you need to just make
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: it Home Alone. I guess that's the title in all
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: but I think the characters were so interesting we could
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: have done more with them outside of the Home Alone formula.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I like them. I mean I will never watch Home
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Alone two before on Thanksgiving evening. All homelone one is
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: my favorite. But I don't mind Home Alone two like
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you do. What about the Butler? What about Tim Curry's
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: butler character?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Tim Curry's great. I mean, he has one of the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: greatest smiles. I mean, when it transitions from The Grinch
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: into Tim Curry, it's fantastic. But also he's not even
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: a bad guy in theory. He's just a guy that's
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: working at a hotel and some kid basically just sneaks
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: in here with a stolen credit card. Why is he
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: represented as a villain just because he's an authoritariative type
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: of figure and he's trying to do right. Actually, have
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: this kid, you know, steal money and go into a
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: hotel room without any supervision, so he's not really doing
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: bad things?
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you have to. I mean they have
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: to explain away, like why the hotel doesn't notice that
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the kid's there by himself. I think they have to
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: do something about that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I think another thing that I brought up in that
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: first podcast is the home aspect of home alone is
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: so great, and then in this one he's setting the
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: traps in a relative's house that were just introduced to
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and the traps are great. They actually one up I
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: think all the sort of tricks, all the plant pranks,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, there's way more extreme in part two.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: But again there's nothing surrounding it. It loses its substance.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: It's like that wrestling event that I was talking about.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: It's you know, I still care about Harry and Marv,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: but they're not as interesting and the arena is not
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: as interesting. It's like they're doing it in a dingy setting,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: and the first one had that home setting.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Well, Kevin does electrocute Marv and you and I talked
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: about this before that that is one of I mean,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: it's it's hard saying this because I mean it would
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: have actually, in real life killed him, but they they
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: interchanged him with a skeleton. And I thought that was brilliant.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Oh it's great. It's so cartoon. I mean, that's something
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: you would see in Looney Tunes. It's absolutely fantastic, Stacey,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely fantastic. I thought we did a great job here.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Is there anything we're missing? Any other points you want
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to bring up?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: There is So I told my kids that I was
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: going to do this show with you, and well, so
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: they there. They love home alone one, they like they
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: like them all. I mean, I don't know, they're super discerning.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: But my oldest, my ten year old, had a really
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: great point that I wanted to bring up. We're talking
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: about going to see you know, we were talking about
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: the Rockefeller Tree and Henry turns to me and he says, Mom,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: it's Chris. We were talking about how crazy busy it
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: is to go see the lights on that tree. Because
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, we did it last year. Yeah, we're
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: not gonna go this year. And I said to Henry,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: do you do you have any interesting going And he
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: was like no, and he goes, by the way, Mom,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: if that was the Rockefeller Tree on Christmas Eve, there's
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: no way it would have been empty.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just Kevin.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one else is there. I was like that, Henry,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I will make sure to bring that up to Justin
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: because that there is just no way that would have happened.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: It would have been massively crowded. They would have never
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: found each other.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder where they filmed that, because obviously they
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: filmed a lot of this in New York, but obviously
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: they also made sets throughout Hollywood. I'm assuming I don't don't. Again,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: there's not many details. There's no making of Home Alone
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: two hour DVD, there's no commentary, teck, I don't know
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: what they filmed there. It's an expensive movie also to
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: film in New York. That could also be why this
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: budget is also ten million dollars more, because the film
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: in New York, you need a lot more permits. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Macaulay Colkin's a juggernaut at this point. He's a much
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: bigger star than he was at the start of that
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: first movie. But I love Home Alone. I like Home
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Alone two, and surprisingly I did not hate Home Alone three.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: What would you do to close this out? Stacy? What
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: would you do with the Home Alone franchise? Is this
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: something that just needs to go away and just needs
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: to be a yearly tradition with the classics? Do you
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: reboot it is there is? Do you want to see
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: more of this family? I just thought of that idea
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: of these characters being characters, but not having it be
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that Home Alone formula. Maybe even something so as Kevin
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: getting forgiveness from Harry and Marv. What about a sympathetic
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: old man Marv and Harry they're like the old man
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you know, Marley from Home Alone, and you introduce them,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't need to be with the pranks with them.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I think you still need to have that the more
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I think about it, you need to have some sort
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: of slapstick humor with it. But I think if you
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: take those characters, make them somewhat sympathetic, maybe you have
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Harry and Marv set up traps with Kevin for somebody.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe all right here it is here it is. I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: just thought of this. Right now, they're at a retirement home,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Harry and Marv, their retirement home is gonna go away.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Government won't fund it anymore. They have no money. There's
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: a big businessman. Buzz is the big businessman, and he
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: wants to take down this facility. So you know, Harry
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Marv and the help of Kevin who if they've reconciled
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: with they knew the errors of their ways, they reconciled
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: with it. They say, how can we stop this demolition?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: I know exactly who to get in contact with that,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Kevin McAllister.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: That's a winning movie.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Home Alone seven, I think you just ignore the other
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: ones and it's Home Alone three. I think that's what
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you have to do. Would there be anything else? I mean,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's a brilliant idea. Anything else you think
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: you could do with this property because it makes money,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: it's such a well known property.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's just Home Alone one was
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: just so impeccably done, and Home Alone two. I think
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: it was a pretty good movie to follow Home Alone one.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I just don't think they really should have touched it
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: after that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: No, especially without Macaulay Culkin. He is Home Alone. It's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: like having Queen Go touring right now without Freddie Mercury.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry but that's not Queen Adam Lambert is not
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury, and Home Alone with random kid Alex is
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: not home alone.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Right like home Alone just because you were left at
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: home to fend for yourself against burglars is not It's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: not the home Alone.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: You need Chris Columbus, you need the John Williams score,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: you need all this, and you don't have John Hughes
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: now to even write the movie, So maybe just leave
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: it in the past. I agree, Well, that's gonna do
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: it for this additional film, real Stacy. I think he
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: did fantastic.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Thanks Justin.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have you back on for our
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Gooney special. Goonies is gonna be in theaters next month January.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: We're getting the morning show team together.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear their reactions to Goonies. And
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: that will be the next time Stacy will come home.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: We'll do the Goonies, and I promise eventually I will
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: get to that Transformer special. I've been teasing the Stacey
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: for five months now. I say every week I'm gonna
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: do Transferm's Part three, and every week I push it back,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I'm just never gonna get to it.
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  Speaker 2: You need to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nope. You can't make me so long, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I love home alone