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- 0:06This is the AST Space Mobile podcast.
- 0:10Where we just basically come your phone and be seamless
- 0:14regardless of where you are. We don't want the user even to
- 0:16know that it's connected by satellite.
- 0:21Listen, the opportunity that we have is very, very, very large.
- 0:28Have you ever been out in the middle of nowhere?
- 0:30Oh yeah. Like maybe you're off roading,
- 0:32or you're hiking some remote trail or just, you know, driving
- 0:36a really long stretch of Hwy. through the mountain.
- 0:38Right. And you just know what's coming.
- 0:40Exactly. You glance down at your phone
- 0:42and you see it. That dreaded no service
- 0:45indicator. It's a terrible feeling.
- 0:47It really is, and it's wild to think about really, because you
- 0:52are holding a device with, I mean, it's got more processing
- 0:56power than the computers that landed Apollo on the moon.
- 0:59Far more. Yeah, it's packed with advanced
- 1:01modems and all this incredible silicon, yet the absolute second
- 1:05you step outside the invisible perimeter of a terrestrial cell
- 1:09tower grid. It's a brick.
- 1:11It becomes completely useless for communication and for anyone
- 1:14who follows telecommunications. I mean, we've basically just
- 1:18accepted this as a rigid limitation of the
- 1:20infrastructure. Because towers are expensive.
- 1:23Right lane fiber backhaul is expensive, covering every single
- 1:26square inch of the globe with steel structures.
- 1:28Just it isn't economically viable.
- 1:31No, it's impossible. But The thing is, we are
- 1:34currently standing on the precipice of a massive
- 1:37architectural shift. We were looking at a near future
- 1:40where the whole concept of a dead zone similarly ceases to
- 1:44exist. Which is a profound shift.
- 1:46It is, and we aren't talking about carrying around a
- 1:49specialized bulky satellite phone with a massive pull out
- 1:52antenna. Right.
- 1:53Not the old briefcase phones, no.
- 1:56We are talking about the exact standard, unmodified smartphone
- 1:59sitting in your pocket right now, connecting directly to a
- 2:02satellite in space. A Holy Grail.
- 2:04Yeah, the promise of direct device or DTD mobile broadband.
- 2:08And it represents A fundamental paradigm shift in how we think
- 2:11about network topology. I mean, for the entire history
- 2:14of mobile communications, our infrastructure has been anchored
- 2:17to the ground. Literally bolted to the dirt.
- 2:19Exactly. We have built networks in 2
- 2:21dimensions. We're constantly navigating
- 2:24topography, zoning laws, and the sheer physical limits of radio
- 2:28frequency propagation through physical obstacles like
- 2:31buildings and trees. Right.
- 2:32The DTD revolution is really about moving the cell tower
- 2:36infrastructure into low earth orbit.
- 2:38It takes A2 dimensional terrestrial grid and makes it 3
- 2:40dimensional. Which completely rewrites the
- 2:42economics. And the physics of global
- 2:44connectivity. And today we have a very
- 2:47specific, highly detailed lens through which to examine how
- 2:51this space race is actually playing out behind the scenes.
- 2:54Exactly. And that is is exactly what we
- 2:57are putting under the microscope today.
- 2:58You're taking a deep dive into a newly released, incredibly
- 3:02comprehensive investment research report from Crossroads
- 3:05Capital A. Fascinating document.
- 3:07Just for context for you guys listening, this report is dated
- 3:10March 5, 2026. Crossroads Capital is a
- 3:13prominent investment fund and back in the fourth quarter of
- 3:162025, they released this massive 70 plus page report exclusively
- 3:21to their limited partners. They're internal investors.
- 3:24Right. However, they have recently
- 3:26begun publishing abridged excerpts of this research to the
- 3:29public, and they're aiming it directly at a highly passionate
- 3:32online community of retail investors and telecom analysts
- 3:36known as the ASTS Space Mob. They are a very vocal community
- 3:40online. Very vocal, very informed.
- 3:42So our mission today is to unpack the central thesis of
- 3:45this Crossroads Capital research.
- 3:47And it is a bold thesis. Very bold.
- 3:50They make a highly technical case for why they believe AST
- 3:54Space Mobile, which is this relatively small company
- 3:57operating out of West, TX, is both technologically and
- 4:00commercially superior to Elon Musk's Starlink in the race to
- 4:04dominate D2D mobile broadband. But before we dig into the
- 4:08actual engineering and the physics outlined in this
- 4:10research, it is crucial that we establish the parameters of our
- 4:13discussion here. Yes, very important.
- 4:15We are not financial advisors. We are not endorsing AST Space
- 4:18Mobile, we are not endorsing Starlink and we are not
- 4:20recommending any specific stock equity or investment strategy.
- 4:24None of the above. We are strictly acting as
- 4:27impartial guides. Our role today is to decode the
- 4:30technological arguments, the physics models, and the network
- 4:34architecture strategies presented in this Crossroads
- 4:36Capital thesis. Just looking at the tech.
- 4:38Exactly. Our goal is to analyze the
- 4:40mechanics of how this technology works, the regulatory hurdles
- 4:44involved, and the implications of these different engineering
- 4:47philosophies so you can understand the complexities of
- 4:50this emerging sector. OK, let's unpack this because
- 4:52the very first hurdle Crossroads brings up isn't a business
- 4:56problem or a marketing challenge.
- 4:58No, it's a harsh reality. It is a harsh, uncompromising
- 5:01problem of physics. When we are talking about a
- 5:04satellite in low Earth orbit, or Leo, we are dealing with an
- 5:09object flying roughly 500 to 700 kilometers above the surface of
- 5:14the Earth. That is a massive distance for a
- 5:16radio wave. Massive.
- 5:18And if you understand basic radio frequency mechanics, you
- 5:21know that the limiting factor here isn't necessarily the
- 5:23satellite. It's the phone.
- 5:25It's the smartphone. The modem and the tiny antenna
- 5:28inside your phone are designed to talk to a cell tower maybe a
- 5:31few miles away at most. Just down the street.
- 5:33Right, they simply do not have the power output to scream a
- 5:36signal 500 kilometers straight up through the atmosphere.
- 5:39And that is the immovable constraint that every single
- 5:43player in the DTD space must confront.
- 5:45A standard smartphone operates under incredibly strict physical
- 5:49and thermal limitations. You can't just pump more power
- 5:52into it. You'd burn the user's hand.
- 5:54The antenna is physically miniscule, tucked away inside a
- 5:57glass and metal chassis, and it relies on a small lithium ion
- 6:01battery. The transmission power is
- 6:03heavily regulated. Regulated to what exactly?
- 6:06Typically operating at just a fraction of a Watt, and that's
- 6:09to prevent the device from overheating and to conserve
- 6:11battery life. So it's basically whispering.
- 6:14Yes, and when you apply the physics of free space path loss
- 6:17to that whisper, the signal degradation over a 500 to 700
- 6:22kilometer distance is immense. The signal just scatters.
- 6:25The energy disperses exponentially as it travels.
- 6:28Therefore, if the business model dictates that the consumer gets
- 6:31to use their existing unmodified phone.
- 6:33Which is the Holy Grail? Right, which is the Holy Grail
- 6:36of DTD. Then the handset cannot shoulder
- 6:39the burden of closing the link. So the satellite has to do it.
- 6:42All the heavy lifting, the massive amplification and the
- 6:45technological compensation must happen on the satellite end of
- 6:48the equation. Let me challenge that slightly
- 6:50though. If the phone is the bottleneck,
- 6:54wouldn't any satellite in Leo struggle equally to hear that
- 6:58tiny sub Watt signal? You would think so.
- 7:00Crossroads argues heavily that AST has solved this through
- 7:04brute force. Physical scale.
- 7:07It's in a section they title size matters.
- 7:09And it really does matter in this context.
- 7:12They. Provide a scale comparison that
- 7:13is genuinely hard to wra your head around.
- 7:16If we look at Starlink's current V2 satellites, the ones
- 7:20currently providing their initial D2D service, they're
- 7:23about 65 square feet. Roughly the size of a large
- 7:25dining table. OK, large dining table.
- 7:27But then you look at AST's Block 2 Bluebird satellites and the
- 7:31footprint is a staggering 2400 square feet.
- 7:34Roughly 223 square meters. That's, I mean that's 35 to 40
- 7:37times larger. What's fascinating here is the
- 7:39sheer magnitude of that discrepancy.
- 7:42It is not a marginal difference. It's totally different leagues.
- 7:45Yes, and in the discipline of orbital radio frequency
- 7:49engineering, physical size is not an aesthetic choice or a
- 7:52vanity metric. Size directly correlates to the
- 7:55aperture of the antenna. Like a telescope lens.
- 7:58Exactly like a telescope lens, a larger aperture allows you to
- 8:02capture a much larger slice of that incredibly faint, dispersed
- 8:06radio wave coming from the smartphone on Earth.
- 8:09Because it has a bigger catching.
- 8:10Met exactly. Furthermore, surface area
- 8:12dictates power generation. In space, your power comes from
- 8:16solar arrays. Right.
- 8:18No power lines up there. So the power that a satellite
- 8:20can generate and subsequently push through its phased array to
- 8:24transmit back down to Earth scales exponentially with the
- 8:27area of the satellite. Power is the absolute ultimate
- 8:30currency in low Earth. Orbit, the ultimate currency.
- 8:33It dictates your throughput, your bandwidth and your signal
- 8:36integrity. So we aren't just talking about
- 8:38a larger antenna to hear better, we are talking about massive
- 8:42power generation to speak louder.
- 8:44Precisely. The numbers in the text bear
- 8:45this out. AST's Bluebird satellites
- 8:48generate between 100 and 120 kilowatts of power.
- 8:52Which is staggering for. Context.
- 8:54That makes them the most powerful commercial satellites
- 8:57ever built for Leo. And because of this massive raw
- 9:01power budget, Crossroads makes a definitive claim.
- 9:05They say AST is currently the only company in history to
- 9:09achieve true DTD broadband connectivity.
- 9:12The keyword there is broadband. Right.
- 9:14And they're very specific to what broadband means here.
- 9:17We aren't talking about slowly sending a plain text SMS
- 9:20emergency SOS message. Like the early Apple features?
- 9:24Exactly. We are talking about real time
- 9:26data, voice calls and even video streaming directly from an
- 9:30unmodified phone to space without any intermediary
- 9:33receiver dish. That distinction between
- 9:35narrowband text messaging and true broadband is critical, and
- 9:38it all stems from that power budget.
- 9:40Because of the 100 kilowatts. Because AST has that 100 to 120
- 9:44kilowatts at their disposal, they can blast a signal back
- 9:47down to Earth that is strong enough to penetrate atmospheric
- 9:50interference and register clearly on a tiny smartphone
- 9:53antenna. Without needing a satellite dish
- 9:55on your roof. Right now, if we look at the
- 9:57other side of the thesis, Crosswords breaks down the
- 9:59severe compromises Starlink faces because of their smaller.
- 10:03Size the 65 square square foot dining tables, Yes.
- 10:07Because the physical aperture is small, the beam they project
- 10:10down to Earth is inherently less focused.
- 10:12It suffers from what RF engineers call spillage or
- 10:15sidelobe emissions. Right, I was reading this part.
- 10:19Think about it like trying to use a cheap, unfocused
- 10:22flashlight in a dark theater. That's a great analogy if.
- 10:26You want to illuminate one specific seat, but your
- 10:28flashlight beam is wide and messy.
- 10:30The light is going to spill over onto the Rose next to it.
- 10:32You're going to blind the person in the next seat, and in
- 10:35telecommunications, that spillage isn't just inefficient.
- 10:38It's illegal. It's.
- 10:40Literally illegal. Yes, the radio frequency
- 10:42spectrum is a highly regulated, densely packed environment.
- 10:46When Starlink's unfocused beams spill sideways outside of their
- 10:49designated area or frequency lane, they cause the noise floor
- 10:53to rise for terrestrial networks operating nearby.
- 10:55They act like a jammer. Essentially, yes.
- 10:58Because of this lack of precision, which is directly
- 11:01tied to their lack of physical size, Starlink is currently
- 11:05hitting strict regulatory interference limits.
- 11:08The FCC gets involved. They do.
- 11:10They are legally capped in terms of the power they are allowed to
- 11:13broadcast, because pushing more power through a small imprecise
- 11:17array would result in unacceptable interference with
- 11:21ground based cellular networks. It's a cascading failure.
- 11:24They are trapped in a physics bottleneck where their size
- 11:28limits their precision, which limits their legally permissible
- 11:31power, which ultimately degrades their network performance to the
- 11:34user. But hold on, if building a 2400
- 11:37square foot satellite is the undeniable physics based
- 11:40solution to achieving broadband D to D, why hasn't everyone
- 11:43simply built bigger satellites? Well, getting them up there is
- 11:46the problem. Right.
- 11:47You would think an engineering powerhouse like SpaceX would
- 11:50just immediately pivot to building massive arrays, but
- 11:52that brings up the rocket dilemma.
- 11:54The irony of space travel. It really is an irony.
- 11:58Getting something the size of a tennis court into orbit isn't as
- 12:01simple as strapping it to a booster.
- 12:04Rockets have incredibly rigid payload fairings.
- 12:07They're basically just narrow cylinders.
- 12:09Right, you are strictly bottlenecked by the internal
- 12:12volume of the fairing and the mass capacity of the launch
- 12:14vehicle. And this brings us to what
- 12:16Crossroads highlights as AST's defining engineering
- 12:20breakthrough, the deployment mechanism.
- 12:23Unfurling versus unfolding. Exactly, to bypass the rocket
- 12:27fairing volume constraint, AST engineered an incredibly complex
- 12:31origami style folding architecture.
- 12:34Origami in space the. Challenge here cannot be
- 12:36overstated. You are taking a massive flat
- 12:39structure embedded with thousands of highly sensitive
- 12:42electronic components, folding it up into a dense cube so it
- 12:46fits snugly inside the cylindrical payload fairing of a
- 12:49rocket. It sounds like a nightmare to
- 12:50design. It then has to survive the
- 12:52extreme acoustic vibrations, G forces and thermal stress of a
- 12:56launch into orbit. And then comes the truly
- 12:58terrifying part, right? Yeah.
- 13:00Once it's in the vacuum of space, it has to unfold.
- 13:02And it's not a simple unfurl. It's not just unrolling a solar
- 13:06blanket. The text references the visual
- 13:08of an AST Bluebird unfolding and it is a complex mechanical
- 13:13actuation of hinges and panels. Hundreds of hinges.
- 13:16It has to deploy into a perfectly flat 2400 square foot
- 13:20surface with absolute millimeter precision.
- 13:23Millimeter precision is the key. Because if a single hinge gets
- 13:26stuck, or if the array deploys with even a slight warp or
- 13:29curvature, the phase Ray's ability to precisely focus its
- 13:33radio beams is severely compromised.
- 13:35It would ruin the entire focusing mechanism, the
- 13:37mechanical engineering required to achieve that reliable
- 13:40deployment in a zero gravity, zero atmosphere environment
- 13:44dealing with massive temperature fluctuations between direct
- 13:47sunlight and orbital darkness. It is a monumental feat.
- 13:50And they pulled it off. They did, and from a competitive
- 13:53standpoint, Crossroads points out that this specific
- 13:55mechanical and RF architecture is shielded by thousands of
- 13:59patents. The Starling can't just copy
- 14:01their homework. Not without facing massive
- 14:03litigation. The intellectual property mode
- 14:06is exceptionally deep. The thesis suggests.
- 14:09It would take a competitor the better part of a decade to
- 14:12organically research, develop, test, and successfully launch a
- 14:15comparable deployment mechanism that circumvents those patents.
- 14:19But Starling isn't exactly sitting still, are they?
- 14:21No, of course not. The Crossroads report does dig
- 14:24into Starling's future road map, specifically their next
- 14:27generation V3 satellites. Starling clearly understands
- 14:31that size is the limiting factor because the V3 is significantly
- 14:35larger. They are scaling up.
- 14:37The estimates in the report put the fully assembled V3 satellite
- 14:40at roughly 4400 lbs. That is more than four times the
- 14:43mass of their current V2. Four times the weight and power
- 14:47generation is expected to jump to around 20 kilowatts.
- 14:50That is a notable upgrade from V2, absolutely.
- 14:52However, if we evaluate the math presented in the thesis, 20
- 14:56kilowatts is still only 1/5 to 1/6 the power generation of
- 15:00Asts, 100 to 120 kilowatts. So even with V3 they are way
- 15:04behind on power. Yes, even with their next
- 15:07generation hardware, Starlink will still be operating at a
- 15:10massive power deficit. But the more pressing issue for
- 15:13Starlink, as outlined in the report, is the launch
- 15:17bottleneck. Right, because of how heavy they
- 15:19are. A 4400 LB satellite with a much
- 15:21larger physical footprint simply cannot be deployed in
- 15:25economically viable quantities using Spacex's current workhorse
- 15:28rocket, the Falcon 9. It's just too big for the trunk.
- 15:31The Falcon 9's payload capacity and faring volume are simply too
- 15:35small to lift enough V3 satellites per launch to build a
- 15:39global constellation quickly or cheaply.
- 15:41Which means Starlink's entire next generation D2D strategy is
- 15:45completely whether to Starship. That's the big dependency.
- 15:48For those falling aerospace, Starship is Spacex's super heavy
- 15:51lift fully reusable launch vehicle.
- 15:54It's a marvel of engineering, truly.
- 15:56But as the report points out, the original prototype timelines
- 15:59date back to 2019. Aerospace delays are standard.
- 16:02Right. Currently, the most optimistic
- 16:04targets have Starship ready for regular commercial payload
- 16:08deployment by mid 2027. And anyone familiar with
- 16:12aerospace development knows that target dates are notorious for
- 16:14slipping. They always slip.
- 16:16Structural delays inherent in developing a super heavy lift
- 16:19vehicle like Starship mean that Starlink's V3 constellation
- 16:23likely won't begin achieving critical mass in orbit until
- 16:262028 at the earliest. Which is years away.
- 16:29This delay provides AST Space Mobile with a multi year head
- 16:33start. AST is already launching their
- 16:36massive arrays using existing rocket infrastructure.
- 16:39Because of their origami folding design.
- 16:40Exactly while Starlink is effectively grounded waiting for
- 16:44a rocket that is still undergoing explosive test
- 16:47flights. Here's where it gets really
- 16:48interesting, because once that massive AST array is unfolded in
- 16:52space, we have to look at the micro architecture on the
- 16:55surface of the panel itself. The details matter here.
- 16:58It is not just one giant dumb sheet of metal bouncing signals
- 17:02around. The text details AST's phased
- 17:05antenna array design. The entire 2400 square foot
- 17:09surface is composed of thousands of highly complex, tightly
- 17:13packed individual flat tiles. This is the crux of the radio
- 17:17frequency engineering. Every single one of those
- 17:20thousands of tiles operates as an independent, self-contained
- 17:24radio unit. Like its own little cell tower.
- 17:26Exactly a single tile houses its own micro node receivers,
- 17:30transmission antennas, routing electronics and a dedicated
- 17:34controller. The analogy provided in the
- 17:36report is incredibly apartment, they say.
- 17:38Imagine thousands of tiny walkie talkies seamlessly integrated
- 17:41into a single massive board. That's the best way to visualize
- 17:44it. Where every walkie-talkie can
- 17:45independently listen to incoming signals and transmit outgoing
- 17:48signals, but there they're all perfectly synchronized.
- 17:50But why thousands of individual tiles?
- 17:53Why not just a few large transmitters?
- 17:55Right. Why overcomplicate it?
- 17:57Well, it comes down to how a phased array actually directs
- 18:00signal. By carefully and dynamically
- 18:02adjusting the phase, the exact timing of the radio wave emitted
- 18:06from each individual tile, the satellite can shape and steer
- 18:10the combined radio wave without any physical moving parts.
- 18:13It's all done electronically. They create highly focused radio
- 18:17spotlights, and this is critical because of the orbital mechanics
- 18:20involved. The satellite is in low Earth
- 18:22orbit, screaming across the sky at roughly 17,000 mph.
- 18:27And meanwhile, you might be driving down a highway at 70
- 18:30mph. The geometry of the link is
- 18:32changing in milliseconds. The satellite must be able to
- 18:35electronically steer those radio spotlights instantaneously to
- 18:39track your moving phone, while simultaneously compensating for
- 18:42the massive Doppler shift caused by the satellite's velocity.
- 18:46The Doppler effect like a siren passing by.
- 18:47Exactly. And this is where the sheer
- 18:50number of elements in the phased array becomes a superpower.
- 18:53By coordinating thousands of tiles, AST dramatically
- 18:57increases the gain of the antenna.
- 18:58And what does gain mean in this context?
- 19:01Gain, in RF terms, is a measure of how tightly you can focus
- 19:05your radiated power into a specific direction.
- 19:09The higher the gain, the stronger the signal that
- 19:11actually reaches the smartphone, effectively punching through the
- 19:14500 kilometers of atmosphere. Wait, if they are focusing
- 19:18massive amounts of power into these tight spotlights, how do
- 19:21they avoid the interference issues that plague Starlink?
- 19:25The spillage. We talked.
- 19:26About right? If AST is pumping 100 kilowatts
- 19:29of power, wouldn't any spillage be absolutely catastrophic for
- 19:33terrestrial networks? That is the beauty of a highly
- 19:36advanced massive phased array. The physics of wave interference
- 19:40work in both directions. What do you mean?
- 19:42Through precise phase shifting, the array creates constructive
- 19:46interference in the direction of the target smartphone, meaning
- 19:49the waves combine to make a stronger signal where you want
- 19:52it. OK, that makes sense.
- 19:53But simultaneously it creates destructive interference in all
- 19:56other directions. Destructive interference.
- 19:58The radio waves literally cancel each other out outside of the
- 20:02targeted spotlight. It's like noise cancelling
- 20:04headphones. Yes, that is exactly how it
- 20:06works. This is how AST achieves strict
- 20:09compliance with the FCC's out of band emissions or OOBE
- 20:13regulations. They can essentially nullify
- 20:15their signal in areas where they aren't authorized to broadcast,
- 20:19protecting terrestrial networks from noise.
- 20:21So they don't jam the other networks.
- 20:23Starling's smaller arrays simply do not have enough individual
- 20:27antenna elements to achieve this level of sharp destructive
- 20:30interference, which is why they struggle with signal spillage.
- 20:34So we've covered the brutal physics, the origami rockets,
- 20:38and the thousands of synchronized walkie talkies.
- 20:41But let's shift gears and look at the real world application.
- 20:45How does this actually behave in the wild for the end user?
- 20:48Because the consumer doesn't care about the physics.
- 20:50Exactly. The most advanced orbital array
- 20:52in the world is totally useless if the user experience is a
- 20:55clunky, frustrating mess. The Crossroads report outlines 2
- 20:59vastly different network architectures.
- 21:01Here. They essentially boil down to
- 21:03AST's cell towers in space versus Starlink's space roaming
- 21:07the. Distinction in network topology
- 21:09here is profound. Let's examine AST's approach
- 21:12first. According to the report, AST
- 21:15integrates directly into the core of the mobile network
- 21:18operators, the M and OS terrestrial network.
- 21:21Meaning AT&T, Verizon, people like that, right?
- 21:24They utilize standardized 3 GPP protocols.
- 21:28From the perspective of the network core, the AST satellite
- 21:32is registered exactly the same way as a standard physical cell
- 21:35tower located down the street. It is natively integrated.
- 21:39Which means the user experience is completely frictionless.
- 21:43Imagine you were on a hike and you walk beyond the reach of
- 21:46your carrier's local terrestrial tower.
- 21:48You step into a dead zone. Right, but your fan doesn't
- 21:51panic. It doesn't drop the connection.
- 21:53It simply hands over the connection to the AST satellite
- 21:56orbiting overhead, exactly as it would hand over a connection
- 21:58when you drive from one terrestrial cell tower coverage
- 22:01zone to the next on the highway. It's invisible to the user.
- 22:04Totally invisible and the text highlights a massive milestone
- 22:08proving this capability, AST's partner in Japan, Rakuten,
- 22:13successfully completed Japan's first ever mobile broadband two
- 22:16way video call using unmodified smartphones connected directly
- 22:20to AST Satellite A. Huge.
- 22:23Moment A seamless low latency video call from space on a
- 22:26standard handset. No apps to download, no special
- 22:30settings to toggle. Now contrast that deep
- 22:33architectural integration with Starlink's approach, because
- 22:35Starlink lacks the power and the precision to act as a standard
- 22:39node on the carrier's primary network without causing that
- 22:42catastrophic interference we discussed.
- 22:43Spillage issue, right? Because of that, they are forced
- 22:47to use a synthetic network overlay.
- 22:49When a user accesses Starlink's DTD service via their
- 22:52partnership with T-Mobile, they aren't staying on the primary
- 22:55T-Mobile network. Oh really?
- 22:56No, the phone actually recognizes a completely separate
- 22:59cellular network broadcast from space, designated as T
- 23:03satellite. So it's a completely different
- 23:04network ID, and the user friction there is significant,
- 23:07the report says. If you lose your primary
- 23:09T-Mobile signal, your phone doesn't just smoothly
- 23:11transition. It's a harsh break.
- 23:13It experiences a hard disconnect.
- 23:15It drops whatever call you are on, officially logs out of the
- 23:19terrestrial T-Mobile network, scans the sky for the Starlink
- 23:23constellation, authenticates, and then logs into the T
- 23:26satellite roaming network. The report sites real world
- 23:29feedback from beta testers experiencing this synthetic
- 23:33overlay. And it wasn't great.
- 23:34The process of the handset modem constantly hunting for the
- 23:38primary network failing and then attempting to handshake with the
- 23:41secondary satellite network results in severe battery drain.
- 23:44Your phone is just working overtime.
- 23:46Constantly, testers reported consistently drop connections
- 23:49during handoffs, terrible indoor penetration, and a generally
- 23:53unreliable user experience. It behaves exactly like an
- 23:56international roaming scenario, but with the added complexity of
- 23:59the tower moving at 17,000 mph. But surely Starlink knows this
- 24:03is a suboptimal experience? I mean they are a smart company,
- 24:07why don't they just integrate natively like AST?
- 24:10It comes back to the physics. Right, the text makes it clear
- 24:13that Starlink signals are simply too unstable, the latency jitter
- 24:17is too high and the signal strength is too weak.
- 24:19It's too messy. If T-Mobile allowed Starlink to
- 24:22natively broadcast the primary T-Mobile network identifiers,
- 24:27the terrestrial phones would constantly get confused trying
- 24:30to connect to a weak, unstable space signal instead of a nearby
- 24:34terrestrial tower. Which would crash the network's
- 24:37efficiency. Exactly because of that inherent
- 24:40link instability, Starlink is forced to perform heavy data
- 24:43processing and routing on the satellite itself before
- 24:46attempting to pass the clean data back down to the carrier's
- 24:49ground station. Doing the math in space, yes.
- 24:52And to try and mitigate the weakness of their signal,
- 24:54Starlink has been continuously petitioning regulators to allow
- 24:58them to lower the orbital altitude of their satellites.
- 25:01Brian to get closer to the phones.
- 25:02They are trying to brute force the physics equation by moving
- 25:05the satellite physically closer to Earth, which introduces a
- 25:09host of other orbital mechanics issues including increased
- 25:12atmospheric drag and shorter satellite lifespan.
- 25:15They just burn up faster. Yes, AST utilizing superior RF
- 25:19engineering can maintain a stable high throughput
- 25:22connection from much higher, more stable altitudes.
- 25:26This brings us to a critical architectural concept
- 25:29highlighted in the report, the bent pipe.
- 25:31The text describes AST's bent pipe architecture as a massive
- 25:36disruptive advantage, but for those outside of telecom
- 25:40engineering, what exactly does a bend plate mean in this context?
- 25:43That's a great term in satellite communications.
- 25:46A bent pipe architecture, also known as a transparent payload,
- 25:50means the satellite acts strictly as an analog radio
- 25:53frequency relay. Just bouncing the signal.
- 25:55It receives the signal from the user's phone on one frequency,
- 25:58amplifies it massively using that 120 kilowatts of power,
- 26:02translates it to a different frequency, and then sit right
- 26:04back down to the carrier's ground station.
- 26:06So it's not actually reading the data.
- 26:08Crucially, the satellite does not demodulate the signal, it
- 26:11does not process the data packets, it does not handle
- 26:13network routing, and it does not manage user authentication.
- 26:16It is a highly powerful, extremely dumb mirror in the
- 26:19sky. So all the brains of the network
- 26:22remain firmly on the ground. Where they belong.
- 26:25The mobile network operator, whether that's AT&T, Vodafone,
- 26:29or Rikuten, keeps their entire core network, their billing
- 26:33systems, and their customer data routing exactly where it is.
- 26:37They don't cede an ounce of control over their network
- 26:39architecture to AST. AST just provides the long
- 26:42distance conduit. A really long extension.
- 26:44Cord Exactly. This is a massive selling point
- 26:48for incumbent telecom giants who are intensely protective of
- 26:51their core networks and customer data.
- 26:53They. Don't want to share that.
- 26:54Never. Starlink, by contrast, utilizes
- 26:57A regenerative payload. Because their link is weak, they
- 27:00have to process the signal, decode the packets and handle
- 27:03routing decisions on board the satellite and Leo before beaming
- 27:07it down. So the satellite is acting as a
- 27:09router. This forces the partnering
- 27:11carrier to hand over a significant amount of network
- 27:13control and data processing authority to Starlink's
- 27:16proprietary hardware in space. But the Crossroads thesis takes
- 27:20this a step further and looks at the future proofing
- 27:22implications. We are currently living in the
- 27:245G era, but the telecom industry moves fast.
- 27:28What happens when the world upgrades to 6G?
- 27:30If we connect this to the bigger picture of capital expenditures
- 27:33and network upgrades, the bent pipe architecture is a financial
- 27:37master stroke. Oh so.
- 27:39Cellular standards dictated by three GPP rely heavily on
- 27:43backwards compatibility and core network upgrades.
- 27:46Because AST satellite is just a transparent relay, a dumb
- 27:50mirror. Upgrading the network to 6G
- 27:52doesn't require touching the satellite.
- 27:54Oh wow. The MNO simply upgrades the
- 27:56software and baseband units at their terrestrial ground
- 27:59stations. The satellite continues to
- 28:01blindly amplify and relay the new 6G waveforms just as easily
- 28:06as it did the 5G waveforms. Wait, if Starlink is decoding
- 28:09the packets and processing the network protocols on board the
- 28:12satellite, what happens to them when 6G rolls out?
- 28:14The report outlines A brutal reality for Starlink's upgrade
- 28:17path. Because their satellites house
- 28:19the processing logic, a generational shift in telecom
- 28:22standards like 6G will likely render their in orbit processing
- 28:26hardware obsolete. It'll just be a brick in space.
- 28:28They cannot simply push a software software update to
- 28:31fundamentally change how the silicon demodulates next
- 28:34generation waveforms. It is highly probable that
- 28:37Starlink will be forced into a massive capital expenditure
- 28:41cycle. They'll have to launch entirely
- 28:42new hardware. They'll have to physically
- 28:44launch an entirely new generation of satellites just to
- 28:47maintain compatibility with new terrestrial cellular standards.
- 28:52AST built a future proof mirror. Starlink built a flying router
- 28:56that will eventually need to be replaced.
- 28:58OK, we are entering the final and perhaps most critical phase
- 29:02of the Crossroads Capital thesis.
- 29:04We've dissected the physics, the launch constraints, the massive
- 29:08phased arrays, and the core network architecture.
- 29:10A whole stack. But none of this brilliant
- 29:13engineering matters if you don't have the legal right to
- 29:15broadcast. The report refers to this as the
- 29:18final boss. We're talking about spectrum.
- 29:20Spectrum is the invisible lifeblood of all wireless
- 29:23communication. The report uses an excellent
- 29:26analogy here. Think of spectrum as a giant
- 29:28highway in the sky. Data travels back and forth
- 29:31along these invisible lanes. But there's a limit to the
- 29:33lanes. However, the number of lanes is
- 29:35strictly finite and they are heavily regulated by global
- 29:39government bodies. You cannot simply build a
- 29:42satellite and start transmitting.
- 29:44You must have legal access to a specific lane on the highway.
- 29:47And the strategies deployed by AST and Starlink to access this
- 29:51highway could not be more different.
- 29:53The text outlines AST's wholesale partnership model.
- 29:58AST recognized early on that trying to buy their own global
- 30:02spectrum was a fool's errand. It would bankrupt them.
- 30:04Instead, they forged exclusive revenue share partnerships with
- 30:08the massive incumbent telecom giants who already own the
- 30:11rights to the highway carriers like AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone and
- 30:15Bell Canada. The landlords of the highway.
- 30:17Through these partnerships, AST is granted the legal right to
- 30:20broadcast from space using the exact same frequencies that your
- 30:23phone is already programmed to use.
- 30:25And we must emphasize the specific type of spectrum AST
- 30:28accessing through these partners.
- 30:30The report refers to it as the crown jewel of
- 30:32telecommunications. Low band cellular spectrum.
- 30:35Low band frequencies, typically in the 700 to 900 megahertz
- 30:39range, have unique physical propagation characteristics.
- 30:43The wavelengths are longer. What does that mean practically?
- 30:45Which means they can travel incredibly vast distances with
- 30:49less attenuation. And crucially, they can bend
- 30:52around obstacles and penetrate dense materials like building
- 30:56walls, heavy foliage and vehicle chassis.
- 30:59So they go through concrete. This low band access is
- 31:02precisely why AST can connect to an unmodified phone inside a car
- 31:06or a building. Now let's look at Starlink's
- 31:08spectrum strategy. The Crossroads report uses an
- 31:12analogy that is frankly hilarious, but devastatingly
- 31:15accurate. Historically, Starlink built its
- 31:18massive home Internet business using a high frequency spectrum
- 31:22bands, specifically COUP and COB bands.
- 31:24Very different physics. These frequencies are fantastic
- 31:27for beaming massive amounts of data to a stationary, highly
- 31:30sensitive dish mounted on the roof of a house with a clear,
- 31:32unobstructed view of the sky it. Requires a line of sight.
- 31:35The text called Starlink, the creator of the world's best
- 31:38hockey stick for fixed broadband, but trying to use
- 31:42those exact same high frequency bands for mobile D2D
- 31:45communication, the report says. It's like taking that world
- 31:48class hockey stick and trying to play a round of golf on the PGA
- 31:51Tour. It's absurd.
- 31:53It is fundamentally the wrong physical tool for the job.
- 31:57High frequency spectrum has very short wavelengths.
- 32:00It simply cannot penetrate physical barriers.
- 32:03A heavy rainstorm, A dense tree canopy, or a standard building
- 32:06roof will completely block a high frequency signal from
- 32:09space. It will never reach the tiny
- 32:12antenna inside a smartphone resting on a kitchen counter.
- 32:15Realizing this, Starlink partnered with T-Mobile to
- 32:18access a thin slice of mid band cellular spectrum.
- 32:21But it's just a slice. But as the report notes,
- 32:24returning to the highway analogy, Starlink only has
- 32:26access to a narrow service Rd., while AST, through its global
- 32:30coalition of partners, has access to the entire multi lane
- 32:34Interstate system of low band spectrum globally.
- 32:37But Starlink is backed by Elon Musk.
- 32:39They have access to a capital. The report points out that
- 32:43Starlink recently spent $17 billion to acquire spectrum
- 32:47assets from Egostar. Why wouldn't Starlink just
- 32:50continue to buy up low band spectrum globally and build
- 32:53their own highway? The financial and regulatory
- 32:55realities make that impossible, which the report details
- 32:58extensively, $17 billion is a massive sum, but the text models
- 33:02out the replacement cost of AST's global spectrum portfolio.
- 33:06And that's the number. To acquire the comprehensive
- 33:09global low band spectrum rights that AST already possesses
- 33:13through its partnerships, A competitor would have to spend
- 33:15trillions of dollars. Trillions with AT.
- 33:18With AT the global telecom cartel has spent decades and
- 33:22hundreds of billions of dollars at government auctions securing
- 33:25these rights. They are not simply going to
- 33:28sell their foundational assets to a competitor like Starlink.
- 33:31And even if Musk somehow raised $2 trillion, money doesn't solve
- 33:35the regulatory blockades. Countries fiercely protect their
- 33:38telecom infrastructure. National security is a huge
- 33:41factor. The text highlights data
- 33:43sovereignty as a massive roadblock.
- 33:46Foreign governments do not want their citizens domestic cellular
- 33:49traffic being routed through and processed by an American
- 33:53company's proprietary satellites in orbit before it ever touches
- 33:57their sovereign soil. It's a nonstarter for many
- 33:59nations. AST avoids this entirely because
- 34:02of their bent pipe architecture. The foreign MNO retains total
- 34:06control of the data on their own ground stations.
- 34:08Furthermore, from a pure business acquisition standpoint,
- 34:12AST's wholesale model grants them immediate, frictionless
- 34:15access to billions of existing mobile subscribers from day one.
- 34:20Because they're already paying customers.
- 34:22When AT&T activates the AST network, millions of AT&T
- 34:26customers simply receive a text message saying their coverage
- 34:28has expanded. Starlink, operating as a quasi
- 34:31competitor to many global telcos, would be forced to spend
- 34:34billions on marketing and customer acquisition to convince
- 34:37users to sign up for their specific roaming style tea
- 34:40satellite service. They have to poach the
- 34:42customers. The economic Moat AST has built
- 34:44through these partnerships is exponentially deeper than just
- 34:47the technology itself. Which brings us to the ultimate
- 34:50conclusion of this Crossroads Capital investment thesis.
- 34:53After walking through the physics of aperture size, the
- 34:56engineering of the folding deployment, the intricacies of
- 35:00phased array beam forming, the architecture of the bent pipe,
- 35:03and the trillion dollar spectrum mode, it's.
- 35:06A lot of layers. The report states plainly that
- 35:09equating AST SPACE Mobile with Starlink in the DTD race is
- 35:13silly. They aren't even playing the
- 35:15same game. The report does acknowledge the
- 35:18formidable reality of Starlink's broader business, though.
- 35:21Starlink is an undisputed Titan in the aerospace sector.
- 35:25Thanks to SpaceX, they have nearly 10,000 satellites in
- 35:28orbit. They are to jugger it.
- 35:29Up They have a massive first mover advantage and fixed
- 35:32satellite Internet and they command a staggering $1.5
- 35:35trillion valuation, which as the report points out, is nearly 40
- 35:39times AST's valuation in the public markets.
- 35:42They have absolutely won the fixed broadband war.
- 35:44But the core argument of the thesis is that absolute
- 35:47dominance in fixed home Internet does not translate to mobile
- 35:50direct to device broadband. The physics are just different.
- 35:53The hardware requirements are different and the spectrum needs
- 35:56are completely alien to Starlink's historical model when
- 35:59you look strictly at connecting an unmodified pocket sized
- 36:02smartphone to a satellite 500 kilometers away.
- 36:06The report concludes that AST Space Mobile, their relatively
- 36:10obscure company out of West, TX, holds a nearly insurmountable
- 36:13structural, engineering and commercial lead.
- 36:16It's a compelling argument. So what does this all mean?
- 36:19We've gone incredibly deep today.
- 36:21We've navigated orbital link budgets, the mechanical stress
- 36:24of rocket payload fairings, the destructive interference of
- 36:27phased arrays, and the multi trillion dollar complexities of
- 36:32global telecom spectrum licensing.
- 36:34As we conclude, I want to reiterate that our deep dive
- 36:36today has been an objective analysis of the mechanics and
- 36:39arguments presented in the March 2020 Sixth Crossroads Capital
- 36:42Report. Just reading the data.
- 36:44We are synthesizing their technological assessment of the
- 36:46D to D landscape, not providing an endorsement of any financial
- 36:49asset or investment position. Our objective is to ensure you
- 36:53understand the profound engineering choices dictating
- 36:55the future of this industry. And as you digest everything
- 36:58we've covered today, I want to leave you with one final
- 37:00provocative thought. The report briefly touches on
- 37:04this idea of space becoming the Internet's future operating
- 37:08system. An operating system in the sky.
- 37:10I want you to step back from the engineering for a second and
- 37:14really imagine the societal implications of a world without
- 37:18dead zones. What happens to global economic
- 37:20equality when the geographic barrier to information is
- 37:23permanently erased it. Changes everything.
- 37:26What does it mean for emergency response, disaster relief, or
- 37:29simply the fundamental human need for connection when an
- 37:33operating system in the sky guarantees that a cheap standard
- 37:36smartphone in the middle of the Sahara desert has the exact same
- 37:39reliable broadband access as a device sitting in a skyscraper
- 37:43in Manhattan? We are watching this guy
- 37:45transform from a passive void into the ultimate active
- 37:48connector of humanity. Thank you so much for joining us
- 37:50on this deep dive. Thanks for listening to the AST
- 37:55Space Mobile podcast. If you enjoyed this episode and
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- 38:11Thanks again and I'll see you next time.
- 38:17We're doing something very, very big.
- 38:18Connecting with this technology. We can really affect billion
- 38:21lives. AFT Space Globally is the only
- 38:24company that has proven technology to deliver cellular
- 38:28broadband connectivity directly from space to the everyday
- 38:32smartphone. People will just basically turn
- 38:34their phone and be seamless. But regardless of where you are,
- 38:38we don't want the user even to know that it's connected by
- 38:40satellite. Our role is to bring this into
- 38:44reality, always in partnership with the enemy.
- 38:53Listen, Waffles.