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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, why are you scared? Producer Riley? Oh, I got
- 0:03Speaker 1: you on Mike.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Then I was fiddling with the level of my volume
- 0:08Speaker 2: and you always do, and then it gets really loud
- 0:12Speaker 2: in my.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Ears because it's Billy Costa's.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Headphone Jack, who is apparently deaf.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really it's really bad. Anyway, Hi, guys, welcome
- 0:18Speaker 1: to the AFT to show. Justin here. Riley is here.
- 0:21Speaker 1: She was in here before we started about a separate
- 0:24Speaker 1: topic aka asking me for life advice. Always imagine me
- 0:28Speaker 1: giving life advice. Although I think I am a good
- 0:31Speaker 1: person that.
- 0:32Speaker 2: You've lived so much life that you're honestly the best
- 0:34Speaker 2: person to.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Ask thank you. Yeah, well, I am a sponsor. Do
- 0:38Speaker 1: you know what that is?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yeah, when other people are going through in recovery, I
- 0:42Speaker 2: was gonna say rehab and I was like, that doesn't
- 0:44Speaker 2: seem like.
- 0:44Speaker 1: A word that they have, more like counselors. But when
- 0:48Speaker 1: you get out of rehab, they suggest, highly suggest that
- 0:51Speaker 1: you get a sponsor, somebody that you can talk to.
- 0:54Speaker 1: And remember that dart board thing I told last week
- 0:57Speaker 1: that was from my sponsor.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Gotcha. Yeah, so you you help people.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I have guys that I that I work with cool. Yeah,
- 1:03Speaker 1: it's one of those weird things that when you get clean,
- 1:06Speaker 1: they tell you to do several things, right, like obviously
- 1:10Speaker 1: go to meetings if that's what you choose to do,
- 1:11Speaker 1: get a sponsor, ask for help, and you're supposed to
- 1:14Speaker 1: ask another guy. If you're a guy, it's like ask
- 1:17Speaker 1: him on a date, you know, like hey, coffee, will
- 1:20Speaker 1: you be my sponsor?
- 1:21Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:21Speaker 1: And you find somebody that you identify with and also
- 1:26Speaker 1: that has what you want.
- 1:27Speaker 3: It's literally like a mentor.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yeah. So for me, all the years that I tried
- 1:32Speaker 1: to like get my life together, there was like short
- 1:34Speaker 1: stints that I would kind of stay clean and sober,
- 1:37Speaker 1: but I would always ask people that like guys that
- 1:40Speaker 1: had nice sneakers yeah, or nice cars. I'm like, that's
- 1:44Speaker 1: what I want, that's what you want. And it failed
- 1:46Speaker 1: because you're supposed to You're supposed to go after what
- 1:48Speaker 1: they have inside, you know, And so can be both.
- 1:52Speaker 1: It could be both. But anyway, the guy that I
- 1:54Speaker 1: asked was a guy that had like twenty years clean
- 1:57Speaker 1: and I listened to him share and I'm like, man,
- 2:00Speaker 1: that's like what I want. I want that piece. And
- 2:03Speaker 1: so I asked him and he's been worth me ever since.
- 2:06Speaker 1: So it's been a long time. I've been with him
- 2:09Speaker 1: a long time, many many years.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Can I ask a weird question, Are you like friends
- 2:13Speaker 2: or yeah, kind of like a working relationship?
- 2:16Speaker 1: Good question, No, I say we are friends. We're both Okay,
- 2:19Speaker 1: we're both and he knows the ins and outs of
- 2:21Speaker 1: my life and my soul. Wow, because we've done a
- 2:25Speaker 1: lot of work together. Yeah, so we've shared things with
- 2:28Speaker 1: each other. I'll tell you a quick story, please do so.
- 2:32Speaker 1: In recovery, you do what's called step work. Right, you
- 2:36Speaker 1: have the twelve steps of recovery and the fourth step,
- 2:39Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth step. The fourth step is really
- 2:41Speaker 1: one of the tougher ones because that's when you write
- 2:44Speaker 1: what's called your inventory. So the meaning you tell all
- 2:47Speaker 1: your deepest, darkest secrets. That means who you've slept with,
- 2:50Speaker 1: who's hurt you, who you've hurt, the people that you
- 2:53Speaker 1: you know, everybody in your life. And it's really hard
- 2:56Speaker 1: to write those things down to like relive those Yeah,
- 3:00Speaker 1: you know, so I did mine, and now mind you,
- 3:03Speaker 1: before I had done it, he had told me, he said,
- 3:06Speaker 1: when I did mine, many years ago, I sat down
- 3:09Speaker 1: with my guy and at the end of going over it,
- 3:12Speaker 1: he said, is there anything else that you haven't shared?
- 3:15Speaker 1: And there was one thing that happened to him when
- 3:17Speaker 1: he was a little kid that he was never going
- 3:19Speaker 1: to tell another soul. And so at the end when
- 3:21Speaker 1: he asked him that question, is there anything else that
- 3:23Speaker 1: you did not write down? He hesitated and then he said, okay,
- 3:28Speaker 1: this is one thing, and he told him and the
- 3:30Speaker 1: guy said to him, okay, now let me tell you
- 3:32Speaker 1: about myself, and like at the same thing had happened
- 3:36Speaker 1: to his sponds. Isn't that crazy? So I did mine,
- 3:40Speaker 1: and you know, there was a situation that happened when
- 3:43Speaker 1: I was younger that I won't get into now, but
- 3:45Speaker 1: I was never going to tell any It was the
- 3:46Speaker 1: same story. So at the end of like going it
- 3:49Speaker 1: was like a whole It was like a nine month process,
- 3:51Speaker 1: this this work that we did. And at the very end,
- 3:53Speaker 1: he said, now that you've told me everything, is there
- 3:55Speaker 1: anything that you haven't said? And it was like the
- 3:58Speaker 1: exact situation, And I go, there is one thing and
- 4:02Speaker 1: I told it to him. I never told anybody else.
- 4:05Speaker 1: And he goes, remember, I said that story about me
- 4:07Speaker 1: and my sponsor. Well, let me tell you what mine was,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and it was the same exact thing. Wow, which is
- 4:13Speaker 1: like powerful because you know I wasn't alone and.
- 4:16Speaker 2: It's like you guys were meant to help each other.
- 4:18Speaker 1: I get that too. Yeah that too. So yeah, I'm
- 4:20Speaker 1: still with me. He's getting older now, he's almost seventy now,
- 4:23Speaker 1: oh wow. Yeah, he's retired and stuff. So we don't
- 4:26Speaker 1: talk as often now, only because actually, I want to
- 4:29Speaker 1: ask you about this. I'm not a big phone talker,
- 4:32Speaker 1: are you not?
- 4:33Speaker 3: Really?
- 4:34Speaker 1: I know you're on the younger end. So you grew
- 4:36Speaker 1: up with texting. Yeah, but in that world, it was
- 4:39Speaker 1: always you pick up the phone and you call people
- 4:42Speaker 1: and you like chat with them. So I would call
- 4:44Speaker 1: him like once a week. But now between me not
- 4:47Speaker 1: wanting to talk on the phone because of like iPhones
- 4:50Speaker 1: and texting, yeah, I also talk for a living.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Yeah that's true too.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah, And I had this routine of calling him on
- 4:58Speaker 1: my way home from work. But when I leave here.
- 5:00Speaker 3: You're tired, and you're like, I want to be silent.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I've seen the show in the podcast. Yeah, I want
- 5:05Speaker 1: to say nothing at all, so I don't.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Well, do you sing in the car or anything? No,
- 5:11Speaker 3: you listen to podcasts.
- 5:11Speaker 1: I listen to podcasts, I listened to I listened to
- 5:14Speaker 1: music depending like, have we listened to Prince a lot lately?
- 5:19Speaker 3: Which makes sense?
- 5:20Speaker 1: Yeah, because One Dubs Cry in Purple Rain.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Purple Rain is all over my everything right now? Really
- 5:25Speaker 2: well because of Stranger Things.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, One Dubs Cry is
- 5:28Speaker 1: the one my my son likes. It's more upbeat. Yeah,
- 5:30Speaker 1: he didn't really get into the slow song much, but
- 5:34Speaker 1: yeah it's a good song. Did you know that song
- 5:36Speaker 1: before Stranger Things?
- 5:37Speaker 2: I don't think so actually, but I was singing it
- 5:39Speaker 2: the other day, like around the house, and my mom
- 5:41Speaker 2: was like purple Like we're oh yeah.
- 5:44Speaker 1: I mean think about how cool that is. Like my
- 5:46Speaker 1: son eight years old, has no idea who Prince it still, doesn't,
- 5:49Speaker 1: you know. And we're driving it to the car wash
- 5:51Speaker 1: and he's like, can you put on that song?
- 5:53Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 5:53Speaker 1: This is maybe I'm just like my mother. He sings
- 5:56Speaker 1: the lyrics to it, and so I put it on.
- 5:58Speaker 1: So there you go.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Anyway, Oh wait, sorry about the phone thing. I have
- 6:02Speaker 2: a friend that loves facetiming. I hate I am like
- 6:05Speaker 2: I don't like I want to talk to you, but
- 6:07Speaker 2: like I don't like want to do it like this.
- 6:10Speaker 3: But one thing I do love is voice like notes
- 6:14Speaker 3: on text.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I don't use those.
- 6:15Speaker 3: They're amazing.
- 6:16Speaker 2: I almost sent you a voice note the other day
- 6:17Speaker 2: and I was like, is he gonna be like what
- 6:20Speaker 2: are you doing? But I ended up it was like,
- 6:22Speaker 2: I'll just tell them at work, and I did earlier,
- 6:24Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter.
- 6:24Speaker 1: But send me a voice note.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Okay, cool?
- 6:26Speaker 2: But yeah, I love going back and forth back and
- 6:28Speaker 2: forth with people, like sending voice notes. Me and my
- 6:30Speaker 2: friend Sonny do it all the time.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the best.
- 6:33Speaker 1: My wife has a friend that sends only voice notes,
- 6:35Speaker 1: but she like will ramble.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Oh me too.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be like three paragraphs of talking. Yeah, could
- 6:41Speaker 1: you do so much more?
- 6:42Speaker 2: Sometimes it'll be like three minutes long, and I'll be like,
- 6:43Speaker 2: I'm so sorry for this, Like i don't even know
- 6:46Speaker 2: where I was going with this.
- 6:47Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Just word vomiting.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Oh absolutely.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Or if I'm like stuck I have something to tell somebody,
- 6:52Speaker 2: but I'm stuck in like bumper to bumper traffic, I'll
- 6:55Speaker 2: like leave them a voice note.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I'll be like, so, la la la la, sorry about this.
- 6:59Speaker 1: If you do with me like two sentences.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I'll I'll keep it concise.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, anyway, how was your weekend? How what's going
- 7:06Speaker 1: on your world? Anything good?
- 7:07Speaker 3: Dude?
- 7:08Speaker 2: The Bruins, I know nobody cares, and I know that
- 7:11Speaker 2: Billy like didn't. I had to bring it up to
- 7:13Speaker 2: Billy like multiple times to be like, can we talk
- 7:14Speaker 2: about the Bruins today?
- 7:16Speaker 3: Ten to two?
- 7:17Speaker 1: Hello?
- 7:18Speaker 2: Like, and I know that, Like you guys were like,
- 7:20Speaker 2: oh my god, somebody got pushed down the freaking stairs,
- 7:23Speaker 2: which like, yeah, of course I care about that.
- 7:25Speaker 3: I care more about the ten to two things.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy's gonna be okay. He's some injuries really okay.
- 7:30Speaker 2: And like I was like googling, like, when's the last
- 7:32Speaker 2: time like a NHL game went into like double ditch,
- 7:35Speaker 2: Like that doesn't happen.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Yeah, when's the last time they scored ten goals? It
- 7:39Speaker 1: has happened before the Bruins.
- 7:40Speaker 3: I found that out. It was an eighty eight.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy game.
- 7:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked it.
- 7:46Speaker 2: And then the last time Bruins the Bruins scored two
- 7:50Speaker 2: hat tricks in a game was in the sixties sixty four,
- 7:53Speaker 2: No shit, isn't that And I was there and then
- 7:57Speaker 2: we had like this stupid whatever, it doesn't matter party
- 8:00Speaker 2: that like we were supposed to be going to like
- 8:02Speaker 2: a holiday late holiday party, and so they were like, oh,
- 8:05Speaker 2: you guys can like leave early. They never let us
- 8:07Speaker 2: leave early. They were like, we won't do like our
- 8:08Speaker 2: postgame interview or postgame meeting.
- 8:11Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to leave this game early.
- 8:13Speaker 2: The one game that you're like, oh, you guys can leave,
- 8:15Speaker 2: I was waiting for the tenth goal, which they scored
- 8:18Speaker 2: on the goalie they never pulled.
- 8:19Speaker 3: The Rangers didn't pull the goaliecause obviously it's like, you're
- 8:21Speaker 3: not going to come back from six goals. So they
- 8:23Speaker 3: scored that tenth goal with a goalie.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's crazy. So wait, so way do you
- 8:27Speaker 1: watch the game after you're done working?
- 8:29Speaker 2: So we can kind of go wherever we want. But
- 8:33Speaker 2: we do have like a locker room that has a TV, so.
- 8:36Speaker 1: I don't know, someone you can watch it on ice,
- 8:39Speaker 1: you can watch the game.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, it's so cool. It is really cool.
- 8:44Speaker 1: It is really cool that you're such a big hockey fan.
- 8:45Speaker 1: You work there, I know, and you love music and
- 8:48Speaker 1: you work here.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I know, Like I kind of did it work out
- 8:51Speaker 2: a little bit perfectly where I was like a year
- 8:54Speaker 2: after postgrad being like, my life's horrible.
- 8:58Speaker 3: There's nothing for me to do.
- 8:59Speaker 2: There's nobody hiring, and everything I want to do.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Is so hard.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I know, you're not making like the money that you
- 9:04Speaker 1: want to, but you I doing two things that are
- 9:06Speaker 1: pretty amazing.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I know.
- 9:08Speaker 3: That's like what makes it like a little bit better.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Like as much as I'm like, well, I'm living at
- 9:11Speaker 2: home and but I'm like, but I like what I do.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And I was having a conversation with some of my
- 9:17Speaker 2: friends the other day and they were like, well, you're
- 9:18Speaker 2: gonna need insurance because you're turning twenty six in like
- 9:21Speaker 2: two months. And I was and they were like, you should,
- 9:23Speaker 2: like maybe think about leaving. And I was like, well,
- 9:25Speaker 2: you guys don't understand, like a nobody's hiring radio and
- 9:28Speaker 2: B I work for like the coolest like I work like,
- 9:31Speaker 2: I love you guys.
- 9:32Speaker 3: I don't want to leave.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a cool job. But that is a real
- 9:34Speaker 1: issue with the health insurance. I went through that too.
- 9:37Speaker 1: The difference was I lived in Massachusetts. Yeah, so it's
- 9:40Speaker 1: much different in masks because they have like the mass
- 9:42Speaker 1: connector Yeah, where they go buy your income and you
- 9:44Speaker 1: can pay whatever. It's not bad at all. Yeah, Hampshire
- 9:47Speaker 1: they're like fuck you die, no literally free or die.
- 9:50Speaker 3: They're like, we'd rather you just goodbye.
- 9:52Speaker 1: They have nothing.
- 9:53Speaker 2: They they do have the like the based off of
- 9:57Speaker 2: your income, but it's it's like two hundred fifty dollars
- 9:59Speaker 2: still a month.
- 10:00Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, cool, So I'll just think I was.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Paying thirty bucks a month for health.
- 10:05Speaker 3: And shit, get out of my face.
- 10:07Speaker 1: It was pretty good thirty bucks a month, but not
- 10:09Speaker 1: fair because you're part time at both jobs. Yeah, but
- 10:14Speaker 1: I went through it. You know, you got to grind
- 10:16Speaker 1: it out.
- 10:16Speaker 2: This guy that I work with at the Bruins, he
- 10:18Speaker 2: works in finance, and a while ago, because I'm nosy
- 10:21Speaker 2: as hell and I don't care.
- 10:23Speaker 3: I know, some people are like you shouldn't ask what
- 10:25Speaker 3: people make.
- 10:26Speaker 2: And I would never ask, like certain people. But like
- 10:28Speaker 2: he's like two years older than me. I was like, so,
- 10:30Speaker 2: how much money do you make? And he was like,
- 10:32Speaker 2: I'm not telling you that. And I was like, oh,
- 10:33Speaker 2: I'll tell you how much money I make. It's not
- 10:34Speaker 2: very much.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Did you tell him?
- 10:36Speaker 3: And yeah, But this was like a while ago.
- 10:38Speaker 2: And then yesterday I was talking to him or the
- 10:41Speaker 2: Saturday whatever game that was, and I brought it up
- 10:43Speaker 2: or he brought it up again. He was like, so, like,
- 10:45Speaker 2: how much money do you? I'm like, I'm not telling you.
- 10:47Speaker 2: You tell me how much you make? He was like, well,
- 10:49Speaker 2: and then after I told him, he was like, okay,
- 10:51Speaker 2: I'll give you a math equation. I'm like, I can't
- 10:53Speaker 2: do math. He's like, I make five hundred times what
- 10:57Speaker 2: you make.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Oh shit, okay, holy shit? Is he a millionaire?
- 11:03Speaker 3: No?
- 11:03Speaker 1: Okay, about one hundred thousandaire.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Over? Yeah?
- 11:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he makes hundreds of thousands right?
- 11:12Speaker 3: No?
- 11:13Speaker 2: No, Well because then because then I was like, how much?
- 11:15Speaker 2: How do I do this math? And he was like
- 11:17Speaker 2: take the zeros away? And I was like the zeros
- 11:19Speaker 2: of which number?
- 11:20Speaker 1: Right? It's kind of confused.
- 11:21Speaker 3: You times what I make by five?
- 11:24Speaker 1: But if you make a thousand dollars times five hundred, he.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Said five hundred times, But I guess you times it
- 11:30Speaker 2: by five.
- 11:32Speaker 1: But he said five hundred times, not five times.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Oh, five hundred percent.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, changes, everything changes. I told you I'm not
- 11:41Speaker 1: going to math, Okay.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Five hundred percent of what I make? Sorry? Everyone, I
- 11:46Speaker 3: got you.
- 11:46Speaker 2: I got imagine he's a millionaire and he's just like
- 11:48Speaker 2: working a part time job.
- 11:49Speaker 3: With the brother I know.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And okay, so he does. Okay, I feel like anyone
- 11:52Speaker 1: in finance makes money.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I think he like but he's like
- 11:55Speaker 3: my like a couple of years older than me.
- 11:57Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, this guy in my gym, he
- 11:59Speaker 1: retired at forty yeah, and now he's he's forty two.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck you.
- 12:04Speaker 1: But he worked in finance. Yeah, and he invested all
- 12:06Speaker 1: his money.
- 12:07Speaker 3: I literally was.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Like, hey, are you hiring. Yeah not, but again I'm kidding.
- 12:11Speaker 1: He told me last week. I saw on Wednesday. He
- 12:13Speaker 1: told me he came running across the gym and he's like,
- 12:15Speaker 1: because I don't go to that gym all the time,
- 12:17Speaker 1: he sees me. He's like bitcoin right now, bitcoin invest Yeah,
- 12:23Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. I'm like, that was.
- 12:25Speaker 2: That's one thing that I wish I was better at,
- 12:27Speaker 2: but I like don't want to put in the effort
- 12:28Speaker 2: to be better at is like investing and like stocks
- 12:31Speaker 2: and stuff. I don't know anything about that and I'm
- 12:33Speaker 2: way too lazy to do it.
- 12:35Speaker 3: But like I wish I knew.
- 12:37Speaker 1: There's a lot of money to be made. I mean,
- 12:39Speaker 1: you listen to this kid. He gave the good advice too.
- 12:42Speaker 1: And if you're in finance, you know this. He's like,
- 12:44Speaker 1: whatever money you're going to invest, pretend you're losing that money.
- 12:47Speaker 1: You just have to You have to have extra money
- 12:49Speaker 1: whatever you can put towards it. But if you put
- 12:51Speaker 1: a thousand dollars, that money's gone, like you're not getting
- 12:53Speaker 1: it back. You just let it sit and hopefully grow, right,
- 12:56Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but when do I When do
- 12:58Speaker 1: I take it out?
- 12:58Speaker 2: Yeah? It's like it's like like you have to be
- 13:01Speaker 2: like okay with like losing some money to gain some money.
- 13:03Speaker 3: And I'm not okay with losing money.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Yeah me, neither I need it either. I've really messed
- 13:08Speaker 1: up a couple of years ago because my sauna that
- 13:10Speaker 1: I have in New England spas. This was in October
- 13:14Speaker 1: of last year. You know, I had the deal with
- 13:17Speaker 1: with the radio station. They gave me a nice like discount,
- 13:19Speaker 1: but it was still like eight grand for the sauna.
- 13:23Speaker 1: So I bought it and I thought to myself, I
- 13:26Speaker 1: could put on my credit card. I have some savings
- 13:28Speaker 1: I could put towards it, but it would like pretty
- 13:30Speaker 1: much wipe out my savings almost, I said, or I
- 13:33Speaker 1: have eight thousand dollars by chance and a crypto account
- 13:36Speaker 1: that I had been putting money into. So I was like,
- 13:39Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull the money, right, So I pulled a
- 13:41Speaker 1: tax on it. I had to put it in my
- 13:43Speaker 1: taxes at the end of the Yeah, but I pulled
- 13:46Speaker 1: the eight thousand dollars, I bought the sauna, and a
- 13:48Speaker 1: month later the election happened and it tripled. I would
- 13:52Speaker 1: have had twenty four thousand dollars.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Darn. You never know. I never know, dude, that's what happened.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Well, no, that's not what happened to me. But I
- 14:00Speaker 2: paid off my student loans, which I know is a
- 14:02Speaker 2: big thing.
- 14:02Speaker 1: That's huge.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Yeah, like last year. But I had all that money
- 14:07Speaker 2: in my savings account. And so my mom was like,
- 14:09Speaker 2: you just just paid off, like just paid off. And
- 14:11Speaker 2: I was like I literally like I was at my
- 14:15Speaker 2: mom's work. So I was like with her while I
- 14:17Speaker 2: was paying this off, and I was like, goodbye, mine.
- 14:20Speaker 1: It sucks seeing it. It was like, oh, it sucks
- 14:24Speaker 1: so bad. It's the work, but good for you. I
- 14:26Speaker 1: know I have student loan. My wife does too. It's
- 14:29Speaker 1: just we just have to live with them. It just sucks.
- 14:31Speaker 1: But I did learn something new when it comes to
- 14:34Speaker 1: now we're talking about finance. So I bought a new car. Yeah, okay,
- 14:38Speaker 1: now the car is so I've always driven a Jeep
- 14:40Speaker 1: Grand Cherokee because like they look cool, they've been dependable.
- 14:44Speaker 1: I traded in every couple of years. So once the
- 14:46Speaker 1: my always gets like around forty to fifty thousand, I
- 14:48Speaker 1: trade it in, you know. And what I do is
- 14:50Speaker 1: I always pay a little bit more every month on
- 14:52Speaker 1: the car to kind of keep up with the equity.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Does that make sense to you, because cars depreciate and value,
- 14:58Speaker 1: so if you just make the minimum pain I meant
- 15:00Speaker 1: you can end up upside down, meaning you owe more
- 15:03Speaker 1: than the car's worse upside he's listening to that's on
- 15:06Speaker 1: Diana Russ things. Anyway, So I wanted so I was
- 15:09Speaker 1: gonna get another Jeep Grand Cherokee, right, and then my
- 15:12Speaker 1: friend drives a BMW SUV And I was always like
- 15:15Speaker 1: luxury cars were like never something I could afford. It's
- 15:18Speaker 1: kind of a waste of money. Yeah, but you know,
- 15:20Speaker 1: he told me to go talk to this guy in Salem.
- 15:22Speaker 1: I went down I talked to him whatever, and he
- 15:24Speaker 1: found a car that I really liked, which was a
- 15:26Speaker 1: BMW X five, And so we did the math or
- 15:28Speaker 1: whatever based on what my car was because I had
- 15:31Speaker 1: paid more every month, I had you know, good equity
- 15:33Speaker 1: in it, and so we did the math together and
- 15:36Speaker 1: it was like only one hundred and fifty dollars more
- 15:38Speaker 1: a month. Right, Obviously, my insurance would go up. It
- 15:40Speaker 1: went up fifty dollars a month, and then my registration
- 15:43Speaker 1: would go up in New Hampshire to register it. So
- 15:45Speaker 1: I'm like, that's actually not that bad. I can afford that.
- 15:48Speaker 1: So I got the car, super happy about it. It is
- 15:50Speaker 1: super weird to drive a BMW. I'm like that guy now,
- 15:53Speaker 1: But let me tell you it's way till you get
- 15:55Speaker 1: in the car. It's fucking amazing. It's black, yeah, yeah,
- 15:58Speaker 1: and it's got so many cool features. It's sleek, but
- 16:01Speaker 1: it's got the at nighttime it illuminates. It has the
- 16:05Speaker 1: blue lights on the outside on the inside and on
- 16:09Speaker 1: the outside on the ground, so it's it's fancy. But
- 16:12Speaker 1: I'm excited when I and I should know this. But
- 16:16Speaker 1: when I was setting up my monthly payment with the company,
- 16:19Speaker 1: they said Okay, do you want to make one monthly
- 16:21Speaker 1: payment or do you want to pay like bi weekly
- 16:24Speaker 1: or you can pay every single week. And so I
- 16:26Speaker 1: started looking at the options. And if you're listening to
- 16:29Speaker 1: this and you know financi you know obviously this is
- 16:32Speaker 1: a good idea. So instead of paying monthly, I pay weekly,
- 16:35Speaker 1: so over the next year because you pay less interest.
- 16:39Speaker 1: So if I do that, if I pay so, say
- 16:41Speaker 1: my payment is six hundred dollars a month, and I
- 16:44Speaker 1: pay six hundred dollars if I pay weekly two hundred
- 16:48Speaker 1: dollars a week. No, one fifty a week, is that right,
- 16:52Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Yeah, one fifty a week. You will
- 16:55Speaker 1: you will pay less interest, and you'll pay more of
- 16:57Speaker 1: the car off. So at the end of the year,
- 17:00Speaker 1: and say, instead of I'm just throwing numbers that say
- 17:02Speaker 1: you would pay nine thousand dollars off if you pay
- 17:04Speaker 1: it weekly, you pay like twelve thousand dollars eleven or
- 17:07Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars. So it helps you bet more.
- 17:10Speaker 3: That's nice.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Yeah, No, wonder half the place is probably don't let
- 17:14Speaker 2: you do that.
- 17:14Speaker 1: They don't want you to do that.
- 17:15Speaker 3: They don't want you to do that.
- 17:16Speaker 1: Yeah, so what I do is. I pay a little
- 17:17Speaker 1: bit more than the minimum payment, but I split it
- 17:21Speaker 1: up into four weeks, so every Wednesday it comes out
- 17:23Speaker 1: of a bank account that I have.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Yeah, are you good with saving money?
- 17:27Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 17:28Speaker 1: Oh you out? You get with money like saying.
- 17:30Speaker 3: It like decently. Yeah.
- 17:32Speaker 2: My biggest issue is that I don't really have a
- 17:34Speaker 2: lot to pay, So in my head, I'm like, I
- 17:36Speaker 2: literally just pay my car and then like other random shit.
- 17:39Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, I can spend money on whatever,
- 17:41Speaker 2: which I shouldn't do, but like I have a good savings.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Oh good, I learned because I learned the hard way. Obviously,
- 17:48Speaker 1: I spent a lot of money on credit cards and stuff.
- 17:50Speaker 1: My friend Zeb had to co sign for me. Oh
- 17:52Speaker 1: imagine that's a good friend, right, Yeah, he brought me.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I was so I never do that. I was so
- 17:56Speaker 1: in debt. He brought me to a credit union he
- 17:58Speaker 1: co signed on a loan to pay off my credit cards.
- 17:59Speaker 1: He took my credit cards and held them. He still
- 18:02Speaker 1: priceal has them that they're not good anymore. But yeah,
- 18:04Speaker 1: yeah he's a really good Zeb's the best.
- 18:05Speaker 3: He is a good friend.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he taught me how to save money
- 18:09Speaker 1: and for me. What that was was opening different bank
- 18:12Speaker 1: accounts and having money come out of my check into
- 18:14Speaker 1: those accounts and not having debit cards for those banks.
- 18:19Speaker 3: See that is smart.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what I do, and I still do that.
- 18:22Speaker 1: I have three or four banks. That one is like
- 18:24Speaker 1: my spending money goes into like my main one, and
- 18:27Speaker 1: then I have my bills one. Then I have another
- 18:30Speaker 1: savings one, and then I think I have one more.
- 18:32Speaker 1: I have several banks, all with different amounts of money
- 18:34Speaker 1: in them, so when I get my check, it's they
- 18:36Speaker 1: it disperses out, and then I have what's left over
- 18:39Speaker 1: in my personal one. So all my savings go away,
- 18:42Speaker 1: all my bills go away.
- 18:44Speaker 2: So that's actually smart. My mom's been talking right now
- 18:46Speaker 2: there she's opening a roth Ira for me.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Oh that's a good idea, and.
- 18:49Speaker 2: She's like, you need to be putting money into it.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Should because I'm at like the lowest tax bracket right now. Yeah,
- 18:54Speaker 2: you'll get the most right, which is so nice.
- 18:57Speaker 1: But I'm like, something, do something.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I know. I what also, what I want to do
- 19:02Speaker 2: is open a high yield savings account, which I've been
- 19:05Speaker 2: saying I'm going to do since the summer, and I
- 19:07Speaker 2: have not done it yet. My biggest issue, again I've
- 19:10Speaker 2: already said it, is that I'm lazy and I don't
- 19:12Speaker 2: want to do any research. So if anybody has any
- 19:15Speaker 2: good savings.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Cant belive it's a talk back for Riley. I'll bring
- 19:19Speaker 1: her back. I'll bring her back on. My brother did that.
- 19:21Speaker 1: My brother and his wife did that. I don't know.
- 19:22Speaker 1: They have like a good amount of money and they're
- 19:25Speaker 1: saving for a house. But he did that, and i't
- 19:27Speaker 1: much money he has, and there he put into the
- 19:28Speaker 1: savings account. The high yield. Yeah, but he told me
- 19:31Speaker 1: this weekend that it generates five hundred bucks a month.
- 19:34Speaker 2: I know that Discover has one, and I have a
- 19:36Speaker 2: Discover's card, so I should probably just do that. And
- 19:38Speaker 2: I think it's like three point four or something percent,
- 19:42Speaker 2: which is like good.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Yeah, googa credit score, Yeah, me too, very proud of it. Yeah,
- 19:49Speaker 1: give me a fifth ball. I'm very proud of it,
- 19:51Speaker 1: very proud of my my credit score. So listen. It
- 19:54Speaker 1: takes a little bit of work, but you can you
- 19:55Speaker 1: can figure out. If you're not good with money and
- 19:57Speaker 1: finance and stuff, you got to put the effort in.
- 19:59Speaker 1: What helps helped me a lot was zeb but Also,
- 20:01Speaker 1: I read this book by Dave Ramsey, you know that
- 20:03Speaker 1: is he's this money guy, money expert, and he talks
- 20:06Speaker 1: about the first thing you need to do is save
- 20:09Speaker 1: a thousand dollars that you don't need, like, yeah, you
- 20:12Speaker 1: don't need it, you need to save in that account
- 20:14Speaker 1: and then you grow it from there.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Yeah. My mom was always talking about if anything ever
- 20:17Speaker 2: happened like, and I'm like, I know you've been saying
- 20:20Speaker 2: this my entire life.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why when we were talking about topic
- 20:23Speaker 2: time earlier and saying like, it does money matter? Yes,
- 20:25Speaker 2: it does, Yeah, it does, and anybody who says it
- 20:27Speaker 2: doesn't is lying or extremely rich. Like that one girl
- 20:30Speaker 2: that talked about her said, because that's true.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Yeah, well, especially because eventually you're going to combine finances.
- 20:35Speaker 1: What's that going to look like?
- 20:37Speaker 2: I don't think I could ever be with somebody who
- 20:39Speaker 2: spent money poorly, like just like all willy nilly. My
- 20:43Speaker 2: sister used to date this guy and they broke up.
- 20:46Speaker 2: But I think I don't know for true, but for
- 20:49Speaker 2: sure hello that it's because of how she spent money.
- 20:53Speaker 2: And he was like, he was like very frugal and
- 20:57Speaker 2: she was not. And I think that that's why they
- 20:59Speaker 2: broke up.
- 21:00Speaker 1: My wife and I have always kept our finances separate.
- 21:03Speaker 1: I know, when you get married you can bind them.
- 21:05Speaker 1: We have one account for like bills, But I don't
- 21:09Speaker 1: know what she spends a target. I don't want to know.
- 21:11Speaker 1: She makes her own money and that's just what works
- 21:13Speaker 1: for us.
- 21:13Speaker 3: Right, You're just good.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea. She's not as good at
- 21:17Speaker 1: saving as I am. I'm just more along the lines
- 21:20Speaker 1: of I don't want to I don't like seeing money disappear.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you.
- 21:25Speaker 2: You're more willing to buy a big ticket item that
- 21:29Speaker 2: you'll use.
- 21:30Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't. I don't. I don't. I try
- 21:32Speaker 1: it to waste, wasteful spend, yeah, you know, and things
- 21:35Speaker 1: that I don't need.
- 21:36Speaker 3: I've been trying to be much better about that.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I have a ton of clothes that I've gotten.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Do I really need new clothes? Do I really do
- 21:43Speaker 1: I need new sneakers?
- 21:44Speaker 2: No?
- 21:44Speaker 3: The issue is that it makes you feel so good.
- 21:46Speaker 2: The head rush you get from buying stuff is it's
- 21:49Speaker 2: like it's like crack, and I've never done cracks.
- 21:52Speaker 3: You would know more than me.
- 21:54Speaker 2: To me, it's crack to me ye, Like I'll get
- 21:57Speaker 2: like an itch and be like I need to spend money.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels good. It feels it feels really good. Yeah,
- 22:04Speaker 1: especially on a random day where you're like, oh.
- 22:07Speaker 3: I need to pick me up. Yeah, spend some money.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yeah, which people that have are addicted to spending money
- 22:13Speaker 1: and shopping. That's the feeling they're chasing.
- 22:15Speaker 3: And then you wear the new clothes and you're like, oh.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what the thing is, it's like
- 22:20Speaker 1: even what sucks about that is say it's new clothes
- 22:24Speaker 1: or it's a new car or whatever. You get that feeling. Yeah,
- 22:29Speaker 1: the second time you wear them, it's not as good,
- 22:30Speaker 1: and the third time not as good as good. That's
- 22:34Speaker 1: that's true. Like my car was so cool. It was
- 22:37Speaker 1: so great. It's still so great, but every time I
- 22:39Speaker 1: drive it, eventually it's becoming wearing off. Yeah, that's how
- 22:45Speaker 1: it is, you know. But the car is cool. Like,
- 22:47Speaker 1: imagine this, I don't need a keyfob. The car is
- 22:50Speaker 1: connected to my phone and to my Apple Watch.
- 22:53Speaker 3: What if you lose those things?
- 22:55Speaker 1: Well, if I that I'm in trouble, but I can
- 22:57Speaker 1: control the car from my phone and my Apple Watch
- 23:00Speaker 1: around when I walk near the car, it unlocks. I again,
- 23:03Speaker 1: I can start it. You can share the card with
- 23:06Speaker 1: my wife. I didn't my wife so she can use
- 23:08Speaker 1: the car on her phone.
- 23:11Speaker 3: So do you just have the keyfob at home? Yeah,
- 23:13Speaker 3: like it just sits at home, just sits at home.
- 23:14Speaker 2: That's how I felt when I got my new car
- 23:16Speaker 2: because my old car I had a Volvo and it
- 23:19Speaker 2: was my first car. I got it at sixteen, and
- 23:21Speaker 2: I had it up until two years ago when I
- 23:24Speaker 2: was like twenty four.
- 23:26Speaker 3: I got rid of it and.
- 23:28Speaker 2: I didn't have like anything, and now I have like
- 23:30Speaker 2: Apple car flay my like and that is.
- 23:34Speaker 1: It wireless car play play.
- 23:35Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's wireless.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Wireless is where?
- 23:37Speaker 2: And my old car was the Volvo was really nice
- 23:39Speaker 2: and it was like the perfect like first car, but.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Like this car, I'm like yeah, and it's literally hot though.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Yeah. And every time you get a new car and
- 23:47Speaker 1: the technology gets better and better.
- 23:49Speaker 3: No, that's the crazy part.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Well what happened was my friend he has one,
- 23:53Speaker 1: and he's like he kind of convinced me because he's like, dude,
- 23:56Speaker 1: don't get another jeep, get a beam. I'm like, I
- 23:59Speaker 1: can't afford a fucking and he goes, dude, you work
- 24:02Speaker 1: on the radio like you should be driving a beamer.
- 24:05Speaker 1: And then I'm like whatever, he was listening. Yeah, He's like,
- 24:08Speaker 1: go talk to my friend. So I was like, I'll
- 24:10Speaker 1: go talk to I went there with zero expectations, but
- 24:13Speaker 1: listen to me. It's like if the math is mathing
- 24:15Speaker 1: type of thing. And he was talking to me, and
- 24:17Speaker 1: he broke it all down. The math was math in.
- 24:20Speaker 3: Math was mathing. You're like, I can make this work.
- 24:22Speaker 1: I can make this work. It's not going to like
- 24:24Speaker 1: financially cripple me. So why not?
- 24:26Speaker 3: So why not? Well?
- 24:29Speaker 1: All right, well I go to the dentist.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sorry, it's okay.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Now I got to go with us. We just rambled.
- 24:35Speaker 1: That's what the show is. It's been always been like that,
- 24:37Speaker 1: going back to like Bex and then Winnie and you know,
- 24:40Speaker 1: when you know whatever. I know you're not like the
- 24:42Speaker 1: official co.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Host, but yeah, but I love talking.
- 24:45Speaker 1: You can come in at anytime. You can come in
- 24:46Speaker 1: at any time. I like to get random people and sometimes
- 24:48Speaker 1: I just talk. Yeah, And then I finished, and I go,
- 24:51Speaker 1: what did I just say?
- 24:52Speaker 2: I've always said that me and my friend Kelly, who
- 24:54Speaker 2: can yap about literally anything, but she works with the Bruins.
- 24:56Speaker 2: I'm like, let's start like a hockey podcast.
- 24:58Speaker 3: But we just like talk about like druma, Like we
- 25:00Speaker 3: don't even really talk about the game.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Yeah you could, And I'm like, I work in the
- 25:04Speaker 2: perfect place to be, Like, let's start a podcast.
- 25:06Speaker 1: That's what this podcast. This podcast was originally started as
- 25:09Speaker 1: an after show companion piece, which it is, but it
- 25:12Speaker 1: was supposed to be like breaking down the topics of
- 25:15Speaker 1: the show of that day. I'll fucking do that that
- 25:21Speaker 1: now we have talk back.
- 25:22Speaker 4: Justin regular listener, after show army member, occasional talkbacker. I
- 25:27Speaker 4: was just thinking about you as I was driving, and
- 25:29Speaker 4: I want to thank you for everything that you offer
- 25:34Speaker 4: as far as helping people understand addiction.
- 25:36Speaker 1: My Hob's father is an addict.
- 25:37Speaker 4: He's stepping in recovery and sober for three years. But
- 25:41Speaker 4: hearing you talk about like how your brain works and
- 25:45Speaker 4: how you go through things, that's really helped me understand him,
- 25:47Speaker 4: and I think gives made a big difference in our relationship.
- 25:50Speaker 3: So thanks Justin.
- 25:51Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Thank you. I love messages like that. Yeah, nice,
- 25:55Speaker 1: I know it's so funny. I'm the recovery guy.
- 25:57Speaker 3: You're literally a role model to so many.
- 25:59Speaker 1: People, which is never intended, which is.
- 26:02Speaker 2: The craziest part. I feel like that's actually what makes
- 26:05Speaker 2: the better role models. Yeah, because you're like I was
- 26:07Speaker 2: never trying to like put on this front and be
- 26:09Speaker 2: like no, listen, like look up to me.
- 26:11Speaker 3: You're just like, this is just my life.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Yeah. It just came out on the air and then
- 26:15Speaker 1: I kind of just went from there, and then you know,
- 26:17Speaker 1: I started to be like, well, I can get my
- 26:19Speaker 1: message out, get the message out that recovery does work.
- 26:22Speaker 1: So that's the kind of the road I went down
- 26:24Speaker 1: once it was all out, and that's really trans transformed
- 26:27Speaker 1: to something amazing like power of recovery. Who, by the way,
- 26:29Speaker 1: Maddie and Damon coming on tomorrow. Fun, So ask questions
- 26:33Speaker 1: on the talkbacks you have anything addiction related, recovery related,
- 26:36Speaker 1: literally anything, you can leave a talkback. Oh, you can
- 26:39Speaker 1: DM me, but we'd prefer to hear your voice. So
- 26:41Speaker 1: they'll be on tomorrow.
- 26:41Speaker 2: And there's no dumb questions because I ask you dumb
- 26:43Speaker 2: questions about recovery all the time.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no dumb questions.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Literally, amazing.
- 26:47Speaker 2: What's the difference between recovery and rehab. Yeah.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Well hopefully you find recovery in rehab.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes us essentially.
- 26:55Speaker 1: What it is. Hopefully so anyway, Yeah, power of recovery,
- 26:57Speaker 1: Maddy and Damon Tomorrow, Riley, thank you.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Corn.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Now you're gonna go back to work.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really want to do that.
- 27:02Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If you want, I can let you come
- 27:05Speaker 1: and ride my car.
- 27:05Speaker 3: This is so much more fun. Yeah, I'll go to
- 27:07Speaker 3: the dentist with you instead.
- 27:10Speaker 1: All right, bye bye,