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Beyond the Bachelor: Chris Lane · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is all most Famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, you are listening to Beyond the Bachelor. This
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  Speaker 2: is your host, Susie Evans, and today we have a
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  Speaker 2: really exciting guest. Today we have on Chris Lane. He
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  Speaker 2: performed for her on season twenty one of The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: It was Nick File's season, and today we are going
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  Speaker 2: to chat all things music, career, Bachelor.
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  Speaker 3: And even a little bit of a hot topic.
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  Speaker 2: He posted a picture not too long ago including his
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  Speaker 2: wife Lauren and Ben Higgins at the time they were engaged,
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of ruffled some feathers in Bachelor nations.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to hop right in.
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  Speaker 2: You performed for her on season twenty one of The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: For Nick File, what was it like to bring your
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  Speaker 2: music into reality TV? And did that environment provide new
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  Speaker 2: community and new listeners for you? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was quite some time ago. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: what season he was a part of, because that's been
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  Speaker 1: at least what six seven years ago? Maybe mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It was season twenty one, and I think they're on
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  Speaker 2: I want to see they're on season twenty eight or
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine. I always forget, but it's been a minute,
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  Speaker 2: been a hot minute.
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  Speaker 1: So that was the second song ever that I had
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  Speaker 1: out on the radio, so it's still very young in
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  Speaker 1: my career. I felt like in the moment, it was
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  Speaker 1: a really good moment for me. I mean, any TV time,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like always helps. And I remember the day
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  Speaker 1: after that aired, the song went crazy on iTunes. That
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  Speaker 1: was That's how long ago it's been. That's when people
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  Speaker 1: actually got bought songs on.
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  Speaker 3: iTunes, right, that is wild.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it really helped out a lot just getting
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  Speaker 1: that exposure. I think it went a lot different than
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  Speaker 1: I was expecting, just because I haven't done a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot in TV up to that point outside of like
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  Speaker 1: playing on Jimmy Fallon or somewhere like that. It was
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  Speaker 1: it was like one of the only other TV performances
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  Speaker 1: I had done, so kind of getting exposed to that audience.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned, just from my wife stuff
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  Speaker 1: that the Bachelor Nation is a real thing. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it turned out being to be a great opportunity for me,
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  Speaker 1: and especially early in my career like that.
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  Speaker 3: That's so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you kind of popped off right before performing
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  Speaker 2: on the show.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like from what I understand.
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  Speaker 2: It was like the year before you kind of dropped
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  Speaker 2: your your I don't know if it was your first single,
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  Speaker 2: but it was like your first single that was really
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  Speaker 2: really took off, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a song called Fix, which fix and for her,
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  Speaker 1: both of those songs were on my first album. Fixed
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  Speaker 1: was my first number one on the radio, and then
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  Speaker 1: for her it was kind of that second song we
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  Speaker 1: had released out there. And yeah, man, it's crazy to
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  Speaker 1: think back that far, but those were some good times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good things, exciting times, especially you know again in that
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  Speaker 1: opportunity felt like a really great opportunity at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and it played out great.
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  Speaker 2: That's so awesome. Did you have any behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: insight that you feel like you could share with the viewers?
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like people always want to know I
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  Speaker 2: was on the show a few years ago, and people
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  Speaker 2: are always like, is it real? Is it scripted? And
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  Speaker 2: obviously if you've been on set, you know it's not scripted,
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  Speaker 2: certainly produced, But do you have any behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: ta that you can share with people?
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  Speaker 1: You know what? Remembering back to that night, I think
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  Speaker 1: from my perspective, because I didn't know how it worked,
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  Speaker 1: it was a little different than I was expecting in
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  Speaker 1: the sense of, I guess they needed to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that they got all the right shots, so we had
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  Speaker 1: to redo it several different times, which was kind of
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  Speaker 1: funny in the moment. You know, Luckily I got to
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  Speaker 1: play in front of a crowd full of people, so
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  Speaker 1: I didn't just play one song, which you know, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of comes off that way if you watch it
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  Speaker 1: on TV, it's like I'm there waiting just to play
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  Speaker 1: one song for them as they walk in. It was
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  Speaker 1: completely different than that. I played a whole concert to
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  Speaker 1: a crowd full of people, and then Nick and I
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  Speaker 1: believe he was on a date with the girl and
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  Speaker 1: yo at Tom they walk in. Obviously everybody's screaming. They
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  Speaker 1: come down, they do they dance to the song in
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  Speaker 1: front of everybody up on a platform, which I honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I was already like I had a smile on my
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  Speaker 1: face while they're doing that, because it kind of felt,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure for them, probably a little awkward, yep in
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  Speaker 1: the moment. But then after the song they stop and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we need to redo it. So
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  Speaker 1: they take everybody back out and like bring them back in,
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  Speaker 1: and then everybody's got to like scream for him again,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I was expecting it to go that way,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do
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  Speaker 1: to make sure you get the right shots on TV. Right.
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  Speaker 3: That's so true.
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  Speaker 2: That reminds me when I was on the show They
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  Speaker 2: I had a performance like that and we had to
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  Speaker 2: do it like three or four times, and I felt
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  Speaker 2: every time I got more embarrassed because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: it was so special the first time, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to come off it's insincere and walk back in
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  Speaker 2: and be like, oh, I've already seen all this, so
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  Speaker 2: you like have to like kind of act.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit. But I'm like, I'm like, can.
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  Speaker 2: You use the first take? Because that was like real?
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  Speaker 2: But it's kind of uncomfortable. But it's nice that you're
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  Speaker 2: just getting to do a real performance, not have to
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  Speaker 2: recreate the same song over and over again. That would
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  Speaker 2: have been wild.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine being in you all shoes in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I would. I don't have the personality
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  Speaker 1: to I wouldn't be good at faking it, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm curious, So you have obviously a big
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  Speaker 2: crossover with Bachelor Nation having performed on it. Obviously being
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  Speaker 2: married to Lauren. Do you guys ever watched the show
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  Speaker 2: together anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it took quite some time. Even when we first
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  Speaker 1: started dating, we never watched it. And and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of that in part because you know, I'm spending two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and some days out on the road a year,
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  Speaker 1: and and uh, we just didn't watch a lot of TV.
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  Speaker 1: Like when we were at home, we'd try to go
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  Speaker 1: to dinner somewhere and spend time together. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: always watching TV, you know. But I would say over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we've definitely caught uh probably
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  Speaker 1: the last two or three seasons. And then I think
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  Speaker 1: this past year we watched is it Bachelor in Paradise?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what they call it? M Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm I'm always uh thoroughly entertained
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  Speaker 1: in the best way. It's it's fun to watch, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: from week week, So even if we're not home on
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  Speaker 1: a Monday night, but we'll usually record it and find
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  Speaker 1: time to either catch up on it sometime that week
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  Speaker 1: or maybe I'm at home on on Monday the following
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  Speaker 1: week and We try to catch up to it, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, with having two kids under too, it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to watch any TV. And by the time we get
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  Speaker 1: them down at night, we're like, oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 1: need a mental break and to get some sleep.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine. I have a niece and
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  Speaker 2: nephew that are around that same age. I'm curious, so,
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  Speaker 2: most of your career you probably probably were writing love
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  Speaker 2: songs or heartbreak songs. Have your kids inspired any music
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  Speaker 2: that you have either put out or that you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: put out soon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote a song a couple of months before Dutton
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  Speaker 1: was born, our first called any even met you yet.
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  Speaker 1: It was just all those emotions I was going through,
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  Speaker 1: about to be a dad for the first time, and
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  Speaker 1: I wrote that song for him. I feel bad for
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  Speaker 1: Baker being the second born. I feel like I need
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  Speaker 1: to write one for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to. I'm sure more will come.
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  Speaker 1: I can recycle that one for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, my kids definitely inspire me. That was one
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  Speaker 1: song in particular, and I have another one that I
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  Speaker 1: just wrote and I put out on my Instagram not
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  Speaker 1: long ago, maybe last week at some point that I
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  Speaker 1: got some incredible feedback on one call, two by fours and
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  Speaker 1: four by six is, which is, uh, it's just a
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  Speaker 1: demo right now. I would have to record it, but
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  Speaker 1: I wanted everybody to get a little snippid of it
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  Speaker 1: and to hear it and give me their feedback. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I got great enough feedback that I
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  Speaker 1: plan on recording it. But it's kind of inspired just
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  Speaker 1: by you know, I wrote Big Plans for Lauren, and
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of just Big Plans two point zero but
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  Speaker 1: like where life is right now. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Lauren and the Boys definitely inspired that one as well.
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  Speaker 3: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: That gave me chills because I actually wanted to ask
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  Speaker 2: about big Big Plans.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously you played that I your proposal? Is that right
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  Speaker 3: to Lauren? Okay? So how I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I am not a songwriter, so I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: don't even have the context to ask the question.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like, how does it? How do you write
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  Speaker 3: a song like that? Like? How does it come to you?
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  Speaker 2: Do you sit down or were you inspired by a
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  Speaker 2: certain moment with Lauren that made you just like did
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  Speaker 2: it just flow out of you?
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  Speaker 3: How did it work?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? So when I sat down to write this song.
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  Speaker 1: Originally it was honestly just another love song, and I
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  Speaker 1: died that that didn't start out in a way that
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  Speaker 1: I said I was going to propose using this song.
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  Speaker 1: So it took several times to finish the song because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know where to take the last verse. But
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  Speaker 1: the guys that I wrote the song with we got
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  Speaker 1: back together. We were writing a completely different song and
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  Speaker 1: we were like, let's finish this one, and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I do plan on proposing potentially in a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months from now. What if we wrote a proposal in
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  Speaker 1: the third verse. I was just thinking of it. This
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  Speaker 1: is a creative way to propose, because Lauren had already
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  Speaker 1: given me strict instructions that if I were to ever
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  Speaker 1: propose to her, it better not ever be on stage
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  Speaker 1: in a stadium or anywhere like that. She wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be super private, So I thought, well, what would be
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  Speaker 1: a unique way to do that? And the third verse
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  Speaker 1: just flowed out incredibly fast, like thirty seconds, as fast
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  Speaker 1: as you could just write something down, and I wrote,
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  Speaker 1: I told the guys, this is exactly what I plan
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  Speaker 1: on doing. We're going to be in her parents' backyard.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask her her parents if that's okay,
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  Speaker 1: and I did it there on Father's Day or Dad
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  Speaker 1: was all in on it. And the way I set
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  Speaker 1: this up was, you know, I would go write songs
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  Speaker 1: during the day, and I'd come home that afternoon and
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  Speaker 1: I would play Lauren the song that I wrote that day,
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  Speaker 1: and she'd give me her opinion on it, whether she
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  Speaker 1: loved it or not. And I was on tour with
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  Speaker 1: Brad Paisley at the time, and I played up in Portland,
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  Speaker 1: Oregon the night before I proposed, so it made it
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  Speaker 1: easy for me to disguise what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: She had no clue what was happening, so I had
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  Speaker 1: the way I was able to record it without her
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  Speaker 1: real what was going on is at the time, we
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  Speaker 1: had been talking about doing this YouTube series, not reality thing,
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  Speaker 1: but just like creating like a small little YouTube thing
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  Speaker 1: for the both of us. And I said, while we're there,
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  Speaker 1: since since I'm playing with Brad Paisley the night before
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be at your parents' house celebrating Father's Day,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we have my camera guy come over there
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  Speaker 1: and just capture the day with your family in case
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  Speaker 1: we everyoneted to use that on our page. So that's
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  Speaker 1: how I disguised it. She had no clue. She just
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  Speaker 1: thought that they were they're.
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  Speaker 3: Doing that genius.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I set the song up exactly like
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  Speaker 1: I would if we were chilling in the house. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I just got this demo
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  Speaker 1: back of a song that I wrote. I want to play,
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  Speaker 1: and we had a speaker out there, and her family
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  Speaker 1: knew when that when I said that moment, everybody just
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  Speaker 1: kind of come around and nonchalantly kind of listen. And
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  Speaker 1: so I was playing it. The first two verses happened.
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  Speaker 1: I can't tell whether she likes the song or not,
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  Speaker 1: but I leaned over I said, baby, it's my favorite part,
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  Speaker 1: because I needed to make sure that she was listening.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to propose in this last verse, and I
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  Speaker 1: kind of blacked out from there. I remember her putting
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  Speaker 1: her hands over her mouth. She's like, oh my godsh
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  Speaker 1: this is happening. I grab her hand and walk her
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  Speaker 1: out to the yard. And right as I was about
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  Speaker 1: to get down on my knees that was barefoot that day,
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  Speaker 1: I stepped in a massive dog turd. Proposed with the
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  Speaker 1: turd in between my toes.
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  Speaker 3: No oh, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, her parents' little Corgi dogs must have done
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  Speaker 1: some damage out there right before that happened, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know it because we've been playing we'd been playing
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  Speaker 1: cornhole in that same area all day long.
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  Speaker 2: That is actually so funny, and it kind of makes
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  Speaker 2: the proposal better in my opinion. I feel like that
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  Speaker 2: just adds an element of like humor to it. That
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  Speaker 2: it's like, it's just so funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said, I hear that's good luck, and I
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  Speaker 1: have no clue how that could ever be good.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I don't know, but honestly, it looks like it's working,
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  Speaker 2: so something about it must have brought you guys some
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  Speaker 2: good juju.
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  Speaker 1: She helped me clean it off after that, and I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is what a way to propose. Also got a
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  Speaker 1: whole different aspect of it.
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  Speaker 3: I was not expecting that is so funny.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm curious when it happened. Did you acknowledge it
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  Speaker 2: or did you just keep walking?
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  Speaker 1: No, I did not acknowledge it until after she said yes,
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  Speaker 1: and then I looked down. I'm like, please do not
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  Speaker 1: be what I think this is. And it sure was.
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  Speaker 3: That is so funny I literally.
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  Speaker 1: Blacked out in the moment, like I couldn't remember anything
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  Speaker 1: that I wanted to say. I had this whole thing
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  Speaker 1: that I wanted to say. I'd ever said one word
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  Speaker 1: of it. I just whatever came out came out in
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  Speaker 1: that moment. The best part about all of this is
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  Speaker 1: now that that song was never intended to get out there.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a moment for her and I. So
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  Speaker 1: the fact that people loved it so much and ended
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  Speaker 1: up making it a number one for me was was
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  Speaker 1: pretty crazy because I never expected that when I again,
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  Speaker 1: never planned on even releasing the song. But since the
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  Speaker 1: release of that song, it helped me take the next
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  Speaker 1: big step in my career. So I'm incredibly thankful for that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: it was incredible for my life. And then I get
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  Speaker 1: to watch guys on a nightly basis. While I'm out
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  Speaker 1: on tour. People are always hitting us up saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I want to propose on stage to
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  Speaker 1: big plans, and I it's my favorite thing that happens
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  Speaker 1: not every single night, but a lot of nights because
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  Speaker 1: I get to watch guys go through what I went
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  Speaker 1: through when I proposed. I mean when I hand them
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  Speaker 1: a microphone It's definitely different than proposing in her parents
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  Speaker 1: backyard than it is on stage or the microphone in
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  Speaker 1: front of a crowd full of people. I watched guys
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  Speaker 1: blackout not know what they're saying, and obviously I had
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  Speaker 1: just gone through that, so I can feel what they're
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  Speaker 1: going through. But you and somebody microphone, they forget to
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  Speaker 1: talk into it like it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it.
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  Speaker 1: Makes for an incredible moment on stage on most sides.
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  Speaker 3: That's so cool.
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  Speaker 2: And it's because even as you were talking about this
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  Speaker 2: song and like how you weren't going to release it,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy because that's a song that you know, me
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  Speaker 2: as somebody that's not in a relationship or whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: you hear that song and you're like, this is this
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  Speaker 2: is what I hope somebody feels for me someday, And
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  Speaker 2: this is what I hope to feel for somebody someday.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's such a beautiful song that it's interesting as
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  Speaker 2: like normal people, we can't, you know, create art that
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  Speaker 2: expresses how we feel in a way that artists can.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really cool that you did put it out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's even cooler that it was meant to be just
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  Speaker 2: something for her, and it's taken your career to the
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  Speaker 2: next level and it's become this thing that people can, like,
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  Speaker 2: will come and propose at your shows. Like that is
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  Speaker 2: so beautiful and cool. I can't imagine what that must
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  Speaker 2: feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as a songwriter first, it makes it
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  Speaker 1: extra special when you see people connect to a song
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  Speaker 1: in that way. You know. I had songs like Fix,
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  Speaker 1: which is just an up tempo, like feel good song,
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  Speaker 1: or her kind of love song tape that Homegirl. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about you, but this one in a different
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  Speaker 1: way connected with people. And when you sit down to
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  Speaker 1: write songs, that's what you're hoping to write every time,
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  Speaker 1: is just a song that connects in the way that
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  Speaker 1: this one did.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I was very happy about that.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you kind of mentioned that Lauren wanted something
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: really private for her proposal, and obviously, coming from the Bachelor,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: it's not a real private lifestyle. Sometimes, like everyone wants
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: to know not just about your personal life, but specifically
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: your dating life and your love life. Like that becomes
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: such a curiosity point for people. How do you, guys
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: balance obviously having a public relationship because people are just
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: gonna be curious and you're both public figures and also
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: like keeping your privacy, keeping things to yourself, Like how
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: do you like, did you have trouble navigating that or
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: did it come pretty natural?
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel like it kind of in reality, came
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty natural in the sense of I feel like
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: before I met Lauren, I was pretty open, you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: whether it be on Instagram or just even out in public.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: But then when I met her, you know, she had
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: been I would say, even more so in the public
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: eye than than even a country artist is, because you're
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: on in front of the TV in front of millions
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of people every single week. And when I met her,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: obviously it was it was a long time after the show.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, probably what six or seven years off the show.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I could be way off there, but it felt like
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: it was a long time. But I guess, as like
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: an influencer over how you want to say it, she
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: was used to kind of putting her life out there
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. And we share the things that
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: we want to share and keep private the things that we
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: don't want to share. But it's never been that hard
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: of a balance for me, I think now more so
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: than ever. Over the last two years, I haven't been
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: able to share as much as I want because I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm so exhausted from the two under two aspect.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I know Lawrence is kind of the same way, Like
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you don't even think about jumping online and posting a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. We're kind of seeing that light
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel now, so we're posting
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit more than what we were. But yeah, yeah,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy. You just share the things
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you want to and the things you want to keep private.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: You do that. But I feel like country fans they
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: love getting to know their artists and they're very loyal,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: so you want to let them in on as much
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: as you can. And I think the funniest part about
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: all this, I say this all the time. We can
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: be anywhere this I'll know, the Bachelor Nation thing is
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a real thing. We can be anywhere in this country.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Of Lauren goes out on the road with me, eating
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: breakfast somewhere, launch dinner wherever it may be, and people
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: will constantly come up to her. All these years later,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, she has on the TV in a long time,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah, people were like, oh my gosh, I loved
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you on the show. Can I have a photo? All
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and it always blows my mind.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, we're in the middle of nowhere and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: they knew who you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's the power of TV.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the power of TV and the power of Bachelor Nation.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, since starting this podcast, I'm realizing just how
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: powerful the fan base is.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Like, it's crazy how what.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It can do for people's careers, whether you're contestant on
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the show or an artist that comes on the show.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's really wild to see how it can
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: just affect people. And I mean it could be negative too,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: but usually in a very positive way.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Girls come through, so you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: artists do meet and griefs before the show and all
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and girls come through every single night.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, is Lauren here? And I'm
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like the boys to night They're like, oh my god,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we love her so much. We love you, but we
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: love her way More's.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: That's the best compliment.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: That's the I agree.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: So we will have the boys because they're both under two,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Or they actually Dutton just turned three. Okay, I've been
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: saying two hundred two for so long, or forgetting three
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. But yeah, they're fifteen months apart.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: That's perfect. That's gonna be so fun for them.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, in about four or five years from now, we'll
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. We did it so close. But yeah, two years,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it's been. Uh, it's been a grind, to say the least.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It's been an awesome grind.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: So have they been out on the road at all
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: with you guys or did they always stay back in Nashville.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried with Dutton when it was just them,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and I think sleeping on a tour bus is a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: whole different thing that may take them a while to
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: get used to. So we're gonna wait a couple of
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: years before we try to bring him out like maybe
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: here there. Every once in a while we will, but
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: for the most part, I have to have a voice,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and if I don't sleep because they're not sleeping, it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be hard to sing later that night.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough to navigate. But it will be really
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: cool when they're older.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And oh, yeah, I can't wait.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Do you think you'll put them in any kind of
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: like music lessons proactively. Are you gonna wait and see
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: if they're drawn to it?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Like we're definitely drawn to it. Both of them already
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: love music so much. You know, I play guitar here
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: in the house a lot, and they love, love, love
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the guitar. They're dancing to it now when I'm out
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: on the road. Lauren sends me videos all the time.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Dunton has this like electronic guitar. He's always has it
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: around his neck and he's always playing it and singing songs.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: We never know what he's saying when he's singing, but
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: he's constantly singing. So I feel like maybe we've got
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a little singer on our hands.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: That would be really awesome, And it's gonna be even
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: cooler when they can't come out on the road and
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: see what you do and have the magnitude of, oh
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: my gosh, this is what my dad's job is.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I know, I brought I was doing this series XIM
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: thing during CMA Fest and we brought the kids out.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: That's the first time they really ever seen me do
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: anything to where Dutton kind of can understand what's going
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: on a little bit. So I get up there to play,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: and all he wants me to play is old McDonald
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: had a farm. So I just broke it out right
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: there on the guitar in front of everybody on the radio,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and it made for a funny moment.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: That's amazing, That's so cool.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a couple more questions before I let
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you go, But one of them is what advice would
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: you give to a younger version of yourself, Whether it's relationship,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: whether it's career like your where you're at now, you're
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in a really good place with both of those things.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: What would you say to your younger self.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a great question. I think I would say,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for being patient and not settling.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Is the first thing that kind of pops in my head.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I was in a couple of relationships before Lauren,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: nothing like crazy long. But I'm just I guess thankful
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that I didn't settle and always knew exactly kind of
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: what I wanted and I didn't really know that I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: would find that until I met her. But you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I think when you're an artist and you're trying to
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: have a career, there's not a whole lot of time
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to dedicate to somebody else that you got to put
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it all out there for yourself. So I'm incredibly thankful
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I was patient in those moments and didn't try to
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: force anything to happen. And you know, it was weird.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: In reality, I was always the guy who said I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: didn't want to get married, didn't want kids. That was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: just one of those things I kind of felt in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: my heart. And it's pretty crazy when you meet somebody
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: that you want to spend the rest of your life with,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: they change everything about the way that you thought about
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: all of those things. And I remember the day that
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Dutton was born. I was holding in my arms and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not an emotional person, but I just started crying
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Lord, thank you for not listening
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to me for all those times I said I didn't
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: want any of this stuff, because it was the greatest
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's really cool. That's amazing, and I'm happy for you, Like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that's just that's just really cool.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it all worked out.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a good reminder for anyone out
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: there listening, myself included. I'm like, you're exactly where you're
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: meant to be, and you've got to have faith and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: things are gonna turn out exactly how they're meant to be.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: So that's really cool to hear.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst thing anybody can do, honestly is settle.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: And you know when you have like the gut instinct
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and gut feeling that it's not everything that you want
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it to be. Because I believe that, I believe in prayer,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I know that it works and when it's meant to happen,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and it's happening in the Lord's timing, it'll be everything
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: you want and then some.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I love that. That's amazing.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, So before I let you go, I've got I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: think it's a funny question. But this show is about
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like bachelor adjacent Bachelor crossover things. So I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: think it was about a month ago you posted a picture.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: It was the night that you met Lauren, I believe,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and at the time she was engaged, well not at
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that time, but at the time the picture was taken,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: she was engaged to Ben and I think it kind
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of shook up Bachelor Nation because it was like, oh
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: my gosh, this is a photo. It's the first night
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: y'all met obviously way before you guys ever dated or anything,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: but it was the first night you met, So it
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: is a very special moment.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: But it's also kind of funny, Like it's kind of funny.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And and after I saw some of the negative comments,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: which you know, I don't I don't see a lot
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of those, but yeah, I guess I made a few
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: people mad. I didn't mean to him, like did they
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: not read my caption? Only just looked at the photo
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and didn't read the caption. So before I even posted that,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I actually texted Ben so him and I plan a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: lot of these same golf tournaments together, and I've kind
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of got to know him a little bit through that,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and super nice guy. And the last thing I'd ever
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: want to do is, uh, is do something disrespectful like that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: So I asked him if he was cool with me,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: uh posting that and that obviously I don't mean anything
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: by it. It's just kind of her and I didn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: even start dating until four years after that photo was taken, right,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And I think people, I guess they thought that I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: met her that night and then we started dating immediately
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: after that, which was just not even close to the case,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: it was four years after the photo was taken. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: barely even saw her, spoke to her in between that time,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: long long before or long after their relationship had ended,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So he was totally fine with that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and understood, and and I just thought it was a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: fun way to show people like I met Lauren. I'm
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: playing the iHeart Festival right now, and I met her
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: all these years ago after this actual event when she
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: came off of the show, and I just thought that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: was gonna be a fun moment to share. I didn't
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: realize it was gonna shake things up. And I guess
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I should have posted Ben's okay with me posting this photo.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's I personally think it's funny. Like even
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: when I kind of learned about the drich, I was like, actually, I.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Think that's even better.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Like I just think it's so funny how life works,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: and life has worked out so beautifully for both of you.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It would be different if you did meet her that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: night and swept rap her feet and then took her
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: away like that would be and Ben was still single,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Like that would all be a big different story.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: But you both I have.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: The I have the emotional intelligence I would never do
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: something like that to.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Something Yeah, totally.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I know. I know that he's incredibly happy
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: with how things ended up for him, as I know
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Lauren is. But yeah, it was pretty funny that you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: brought that up, because yeah, some of the comments were like, Wow,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you do this, and I'm like, did
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you read the caption right? No.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: People love to jump to conclusions, and I think that
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: is going back to the question about how do you
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: kind of balance like what you share what you don't share.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: It's sometimes you have to. It's a fine.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Line because what to me is like a funny, like
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: interesting behind it kind of behind the scenes thing of
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: like how you guys originally met, you know, even though
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: there was no romantic connection there, but it's it's really
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: an interesting thing and a part of me.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: If I were you, i'd be like, all right, I'm
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: not sharing with you guys next time.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm gonna give you that personal, like
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes look in my life because if you're
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: gonna take this and run with a whatever narrative or
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: bleeve nasty comments like that's not something we need in
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: our lives. But but I think it's good because I
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: think it's nice to set the record straight and and
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I'm sure most people actually found it kind of how
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: we did, where it's like this is kind of a funny,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: like interesting, beautiful moment, and you know, coming off the show,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it's like it's I don't know, I mean, I know
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: that they were engaged, but I'm like, you're in just
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: such a whirlwind of an experience that like it's it's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: a I feel like an engagement on the show is
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: kind of different than an engagement in real life and
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in general, So it's just an interesting dynamic.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: But I'm glad I got to ask you your your
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: thoughts on it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And oh I saw Ben comment on it, and I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: think he commented your lyrics back which was really.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Good, which was which was a hilarious response in the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: best way. And I think that just goes to show
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: what kind of guy is super nice guy. And again,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I should have probably just wrote on the Dagon post
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: before everybody gets upset at this read the caption and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Ben said he was absolutely fine with me posting this photo. Right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, thank you so much for joining us today.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: It was a pleasure getting to know you here about
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: your family, your life and career a little bit, and
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I just think you're the perfect gest for the show.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: So thank you so much for coming on and chatting
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: with us.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, thank you very much for having me. I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Take care and tell Lauren that everyone at Bacheloration loves
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: her and missus her.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I will, I sure will.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much, of course, take care.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: All right, nice to meet you.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you too, by bye, all right, see you.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much again to Chris Lane for joining
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: us today I'm Beyond the Bachelor. It was such a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: pleasure interviewing him, and as a fan myself, I have
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to plug his new EP from where I'm sippin'. He
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: has some amazing songs out there, and he's also going
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to be doing a little bit of touring this summer,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: so check it out online to see if he's coming
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to a city near you.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Thank you, guys for listening, and we'll see you next time.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I'm Beyond the Bachelor.