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NFL Week 3 NFL DFS - MNF | Jaguars@Bills | Commanders@Bengals | DraftKings Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear your lifto.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for a special Monday night football two game slate.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna break down the two gamer overall DraftKings fandels,
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  Speaker 2: covering it as well covering it, and we'll also break
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  Speaker 2: down the featured showdown game, The Commanders at Bengals. The
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  Speaker 2: second game starts about forty five minutes after the two
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  Speaker 2: game slate locks, so talk through strategy, some of the
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  Speaker 2: game by game stuff, the ownership, the lineup, construction, all
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  Speaker 2: of the stuff that you guys want to know. Hoop
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  Speaker 2: is back in the booth, here with us, Scarface. Nice
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  Speaker 2: job filling in yesterday and title back with me here
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  Speaker 2: as always, Hoop bring you in first. You had a
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  Speaker 2: nice little getaway there. I got the sneaky behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: People out there might not have Hoopster on Snapchat. It's
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  Speaker 2: a real vibe. You got to get the snaps from Hoopster.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't use Snapchat a ton, but yesterday definitely
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  Speaker 3: warranted real cool experience at the Lions game. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, they have these little suites basically on the field,
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  Speaker 3: like in one of the end zones, you know, food
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  Speaker 3: and drinks and all. That was a pretty sweet side
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  Speaker 3: basically on the field for the game. So I took
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  Speaker 3: some videos. I've got some of them posted on Twitter
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  Speaker 3: as well, but you know, I put them on Snapchadow.
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  Speaker 3: Was very cool experience, a long weekend. Paying the price today.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, now that hit that forty number, that bounce back,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard. But I did get to meet up with Title.
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  Speaker 3: We had a good time at a couple of bars,
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  Speaker 3: hit the casino, and woke up with eight dollars in
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  Speaker 3: my pocket, which when I went to the casino, I
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  Speaker 3: had a lot more than eight dollars, So that was
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  Speaker 3: it was a fun experience, had a good time. But
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  Speaker 3: back to the grind today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into it. Title I'll bring you in
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  Speaker 2: a sec. But yeah, Gabe Davis sean the first one
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  Speaker 2: in the first thing, he mentions, Gabe Davis revenge game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that will become popular narrative as the day
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  Speaker 2: goes on. But Title I'll bring you in. We're back
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  Speaker 2: at it again, man, Monday Night Football Week three has
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  Speaker 2: been good, but so far we still got a whole slate,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of good slates, ahead of us here? So
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  Speaker 2: what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what's better than one Monday night football
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  Speaker 4: game grabbing two Monday night football games? So you got
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  Speaker 4: showdown if you want to do a showdown, got the
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  Speaker 4: two game slates.
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  Speaker 5: It's actually a good two game slate. We're talking a
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  Speaker 5: little pretty show.
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  Speaker 4: But I think you can make a case for all
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  Speaker 4: four quarterbacks pretty comfortably, especially when you're comparing them at ownership.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of teams too, like playing Josh Allen
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  Speaker 4: while which receivers are going to come along with You're
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  Speaker 4: playing Trevor Lawrence. Which receivers are going to come along with? Which, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: it makes it hard, but it makes a better chance
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  Speaker 4: at a solo shipper up top and salary. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it's as soft as it gets on pretty much both sites.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's pretty bad out there, which leaving money on
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  Speaker 4: the tape always very viable. But yeah, I got to
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  Speaker 4: I might need to get Hoop on Snapchat as well.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have them, but it was nice to see him.
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  Speaker 4: Was nice to see this week.
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  Speaker 3: The hitting gem out there, the Hoop snap count evenough again,
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  Speaker 3: rarely use it, but you know.
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  Speaker 5: I got Tampa. I got.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tampa's very I didn't even realize that and Tampa
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  Speaker 3: were friends on Snapchat and then like his name popped up.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like a month ago, and I think
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  Speaker 3: you were at the lake with the family.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, every three months he get a snapschot right,
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  Speaker 4: or he's at the concert. The concert, yeah, the concert.
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  Speaker 2: I was recently living vicariously through hoop. At the Usher concert,
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  Speaker 2: he went for his wife. But there was some there
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  Speaker 2: was let it burn whatever these songs are that he got.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't not even he scared, though. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're scared because that's gonna fill tonight. No problem, that
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  Speaker 2: five hundred k top is gonna fill. I think they're
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  Speaker 2: a little bit shook. They didn't want to put a
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  Speaker 2: million maker up there. But we'll see. So we'll get
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  Speaker 2: into it. And it would not be a two game
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  Speaker 2: or short slate hoop without the bills. You literally have
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  Speaker 2: never seen, never seen a two or three games slight
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  Speaker 2: in the world that didn't include Josh Allen and somebody
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  Speaker 2: else just posted it. Yeah, I just said this to
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  Speaker 2: title pre show neads. I said, it's literally always that
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  Speaker 2: unless it's the playoffs, and even then sometimes most cases
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  Speaker 2: it's that too, So I don't know who how do
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  Speaker 2: you handle this because this is usually Josh Allen season,
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  Speaker 2: but this slight does have a lot of quarterbacks on
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  Speaker 2: that you could use, like title was saying, and especially
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  Speaker 2: if some of them are going to come in lower
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  Speaker 2: own because of that.
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  Speaker 3: I just I love just sort of dynamic for like
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  Speaker 3: the Monday Night the two games. I think there's so
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  Speaker 3: much strategy involved, so many ways to go about. We
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  Speaker 3: saw it last year with who won the first big one?
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  Speaker 3: Who was a squirrel patrol I believe right, and gets hurt. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't a crazy crazy lineup or anything, but he
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  Speaker 3: had Chubb who was it? Ford was the backup? Whoever
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  Speaker 3: it was. Yeah, he just had Yeah, he just had
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  Speaker 3: that pivot left like three or four thousand dollars on
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  Speaker 3: the table is pretty standard vine up. Outside of that,
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  Speaker 3: Chubb gets hurt and he solo shipped. So a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different ways you can go about building teams. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you guys are talking a little bit pre show.
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  Speaker 3: You can definitely make a case for all four quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm gonna play all for there's
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  Speaker 3: one that I think fucking sucks, which we'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, but you can definitely make the case,
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  Speaker 3: uh for for all four if you want, and should
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  Speaker 3: be should be a fun Yeah. And then we've got
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback that you don't maybe necessarily want to bring
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  Speaker 3: a wide receiver along with, and Jaden Daniels can clearly
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  Speaker 3: get it done all on the on the ground, so uh,
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  Speaker 3: dynamic fund slate and yeah, yeah, that thing's gonna fill
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  Speaker 3: for sure. I wish they would have gone with the Millie,
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  Speaker 3: but it'll fill, and they'll probably have you know, four
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  Speaker 3: other uh you know, secondary similar one to fifties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, do it, do whatever you want, get aggressive as
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  Speaker 2: you want.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, that's not a good sign. Volumes out. I
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  Speaker 3: got to reset over there. Pause pause, pause, be back
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  Speaker 3: now you see now we got the fix. Just a
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  Speaker 3: quick pause and get you back to talking.
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  Speaker 2: And I wasn't only talking that much. I was just
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's because our our world's collided. It was the
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  Speaker 2: usher experience. But I do think I think you know what.
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  Speaker 3: We will say, man, I just touch on the usher thing.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually i'd said relatively disappointing concert. To be
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  Speaker 3: honest with you, did not say it was more like
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  Speaker 3: a perform performance like I think he was out in Vegas,
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  Speaker 3: they said, doing the stay out there, and it was
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  Speaker 3: more of a dancing thing, i'd say, than singing. He
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  Speaker 3: did not sing many many songs.
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  Speaker 2: Forty five year old Mutcher did not come through. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: surprised any shocker. The guy that we you know, listened
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  Speaker 2: to at eighteen and nineteen did not come through later
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  Speaker 2: on in life. So yeah, it's interesting. It's almost that
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  Speaker 2: a lot like a Diddy party. No Diddy here has
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  Speaker 2: to I will say, Hebrews point, we do it in
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  Speaker 2: Showdown all the time. It's very similar to that. There's
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  Speaker 2: so many examples of that on this slate. And he said,
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  Speaker 2: oh that doesn't there's no way this can happen. Like
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  Speaker 2: Jennings just popped fifty on AYUK yesterday. It happens every day.
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  Speaker 2: It happens every week whatever time this NFL is on.
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  Speaker 2: You're Brian Thomas, you're Gabe Davis. You know you can
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  Speaker 2: drop that down your you know, Shakir down to Curtis Samuel's.
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  Speaker 2: It's these are smaller numbers, but you're Terry McLaurin down
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  Speaker 2: to Noah Brown, Jamar Chase down to Higgins. It's just
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  Speaker 2: leave the money on the table, and it's literally one
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  Speaker 2: guy needs to outdo one guy and that's how you
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  Speaker 2: get different. And everyone says, oh, look all the chalk's
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  Speaker 2: still hit. Yeah, everybody's owned on these slates almost everybody.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna need one or two leverage spots, and one
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  Speaker 2: of the ways to leverage is going to be just
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  Speaker 2: to leave the money, build your best Jamar Chase lineup,
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  Speaker 2: leave the money, and put T Higgins. That's not even
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  Speaker 2: that crazy. That's just an example of one way to
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  Speaker 2: do it. So title anything else you want to add
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  Speaker 2: on two game strategy because we're going to go into
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  Speaker 2: the two gamer first.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, a lot of the points you made, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: so it's pretty much like a showdown. It's so much
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  Speaker 4: more of a showdown than a classic slate with only
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  Speaker 4: two games. You can't jam again, salary's pretty loose today
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  Speaker 4: on both sites. So just say you leave one K
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  Speaker 4: on the table and you're playing all the chalk. Dude,
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  Speaker 4: don't think that's different. You do have to do, especially
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  Speaker 4: in that big contest. So I guess I said, circle
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  Speaker 4: back quick. Are you playing one hundred man tournament field?
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  Speaker 4: Are you playing the two thousand manfield? Are you playing
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  Speaker 4: the eighty eight thousand MILLI that are five hundred k.
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  Speaker 4: I believe's on top whatever that is half mil half million,
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  Speaker 4: half million. Hey, I'll take a half million any day
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  Speaker 4: right here, that's for sure. So one hundred Manfield, you
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  Speaker 4: don't have to be crazy at all. One simple pivot,
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  Speaker 4: like you don't need to go chase down the Higgins,
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  Speaker 4: leave the sixteen hundred and hope it gets there.
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  Speaker 5: You just need to pivot.
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  Speaker 4: At one, not play a Burrow or Josh Allen or
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  Speaker 4: like there's so many things, Like you don't need to
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  Speaker 4: get crazy at all. I should say you play Josh
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  Speaker 4: Allen with one of his receivers that'll all be relatively
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  Speaker 4: low owned, and then leave five hundred.
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  Speaker 5: You're a little different there two thousand people.
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  Speaker 4: You have to get a little more crazy the millie stuff,
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  Speaker 4: which I think we're generally going to focus here. Everything's
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  Speaker 4: in play dropping Chase down the Higgins, Tanks, Bigsby over
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  Speaker 4: ETM like we just brought up last time. There is
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  Speaker 4: some backup running backs outside of really Buffalo, like Jacksonville
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  Speaker 4: ETM and Tank Tank will play you got hurt last week.
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  Speaker 4: Both of them are gonna get opportunities Zach Mass and
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  Speaker 4: Chase Brown both are gonna get opportunities Brian Robinson and
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  Speaker 4: Austin Eckler, So that's an easy way right away.
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  Speaker 5: RB two's are something I look at people.
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  Speaker 4: You play Josh Allen, which receiver is it gonna be
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  Speaker 4: so many options while they're all relatively gonna be low
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  Speaker 4: ish owned because of that. We saw Juju catch a
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  Speaker 4: touss on that yesterday. Why can't it be MATC Collins
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  Speaker 4: again today? And he's on the winner tight end. I
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  Speaker 4: really think Breton Strange could outscore Dalton Kink today. Kink's
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  Speaker 4: been awful with no Evan Ingram. Stranger is in a
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  Speaker 4: great spot. That's a huge money gap you can leave
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  Speaker 4: right there. So little things like that defense against your quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: It's two games. Random stuff happen, people hate to do it.
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  Speaker 4: That's how you get to the top there. So pretty
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  Speaker 4: much throut all classic rules. Treat it more like a showdown.
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  Speaker 4: Make sure your lineup tells a story, though, don't leave
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  Speaker 4: nine thousand be playing Ray Ray Davis, Tank Bigsby and
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  Speaker 4: Chase Brown. Fill it out from there like that feels donating,
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  Speaker 4: So I have to find the happy medium.
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  Speaker 2: Day's brought that up. I mean, if I get three injuries,
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna ship the whole thing out. Right. There's
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: so many other ways to get different and be unique
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  Speaker 2: on top of it everything you just mentioned that, you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to just find all these one percenters that
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: you hope get in because of an injury or something.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: That's just the way it works out sometimes. But backup,
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: running backs get in there anyway. We saw Tray Sermon
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  Speaker 2: take one away from Jonathan Taylor yesterday like it'll just happen,
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  Speaker 2: and on a two game slate, it's worth that much more.
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  Speaker 2: So just got to keep that in mind as well.
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  Speaker 2: membership yesterday. Hoop wasn't with us, but the Realist got
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: in and his picture was broke on here. Now it
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: popped up. I thought he was gonna get a ship
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: a Nation logo up there. We were gonna say, if
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have a broken photo in the chat, you
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: might as well have a ship at nation logo up there.
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  Speaker 2: But we appreciate you. Welcome to the Nation, Hoop. Anything
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  Speaker 2: else you want to add on the two game stuff.
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  Speaker 2: If not, we're gonna get into the first game.
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  Speaker 3: Here the realist. That's his reward for talking to politics
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  Speaker 3: with me on Twitter last week. He gets the free membership.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: I agree with a lot of the points that you
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  Speaker 3: guys hit on. I mean, it's a very dynamic slate
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of different ways to go about it,
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  Speaker 3: but just don't do something crazy off the wall. Just
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  Speaker 3: to do it like we have it makes sense. And
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: you know, again there's a lot of different plays at
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  Speaker 3: every position as you go through the quarterbacks. It's a
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  Speaker 3: fun two game slate and I need to hit first
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  Speaker 3: to get my money back from the casino trip. With
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  Speaker 3: a title like it, even if I can win that
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  Speaker 3: five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, five hundred be nights, like you said, I'll take
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  Speaker 2: an alf million maker win any day of the week.
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  Speaker 2: The setup two. The other thing is also, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you still gotta tell a story like title said. But
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: I think when people hear that, maybe they don't, maybe
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: they do, but I'll throw it out there. They sometimes think, Okay,
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: I just watched the review show with Tambo this morning.
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  Speaker 2: You build lineups like this on a two gamer, it's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit The story could be Bills smash, Bengals smash,
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  Speaker 2: and you need six Bills, two Bengals, and a random defense.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's a story still but not conventional on how
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  Speaker 2: you would build your lineup for a thirteen game slate
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  Speaker 2: on a Sunday on Classics. So just little things like
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: that are certain things that you can look at. Yeah, Eric,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: we got to tell the people, if you're watching this live,
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• 12:02
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• 12:12
  Speaker 2: That'll get you into a lot of the contests and
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: giveaways and stuff like that. But who, let's get into
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  Speaker 2: this two game slate. Do you want to go game
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  Speaker 2: by game or do you want to go position and
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  Speaker 2: apply it? Like, Okay, we know Alan is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: the guy, but on this slate, we could make a
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  Speaker 2: case for these other three quarterbacks or how do you
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  Speaker 2: want to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I think by positions. I think go buy positions and
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: we can kind of talk through it that way, because
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: really on listen Restlate, you're looking for like pivots potentially,
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: I mean you're looking for, you know, ways to get
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit different by pivoting off a certain place.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: So let's we'll go by the go by the positions,
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: talk through it, and then like you said, we'll hit
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  Speaker 3: on the Showdown slate, which we're just gonna hit on
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  Speaker 3: like the Commanders and Bengals because that's the main Showdown game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll hit on that at the end. Guys, we'll
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: go through it from a Showdown perspective with talking captains
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: all that stuff as usual. But I like hoops, call
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  Speaker 2: and hoop. I'll let you start it off, Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Usually by far the most popular. What's at least somewhat
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  Speaker 2: interesting on this late is because Burrow Stacks can work,
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  Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels using his legs all that stuff. Looks like
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  Speaker 2: they're still going to be some ownership spread out here
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  Speaker 2: at quarterback, more than we usually see on a two
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  Speaker 2: game slate. So what's your thoughts at the quarterback position?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it does get spread out. I mean
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  Speaker 3: you have Josh Allen price significantly higher than the second
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  Speaker 3: price quarterback. I mean Josh Allen is seventy eight hundred,
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  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is sixty three, then Jayden and Daniels is
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  Speaker 3: six k, and Lawrence fifty seven, So three hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: separation between the rest of them. But Allen down to
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  Speaker 3: Burrow's fifteen hundred. Now is salary a huge factor on
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  Speaker 3: the slate, No, I mean it's just not. There's nothing
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  Speaker 3: that's going to prohibit you from making any sort of
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  Speaker 3: lineup that you want because we just don't have that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the high end price tag. So Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: is very easy to play, but the fifteen hundred is
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  Speaker 3: up it provides upgrades at different positions. So I do
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  Speaker 3: think it's probably pretty spread out between those three. I
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  Speaker 3: mean where I don't know, between all three of them,
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  Speaker 3: probably twenty five to I don't know, thirty three percent
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  Speaker 3: or somewhere in that range. I think they're all going
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  Speaker 3: to be retive relatively close. I do think Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: has a chance to maybe get steamed up a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: just because when people go and start building out their
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  Speaker 3: lineups and be like, oh, you know what, I have
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  Speaker 3: the salary for Josh Allen. I'll just play them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they can play them naked or not naked. It's a
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  Speaker 3: two games later. You probably gonna have a past cutcher
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  Speaker 3: in their guards, but you don't have to actively go
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  Speaker 3: out there and pair them with any specific guy. So
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: I do think Josh Allen has a chance to go
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: up a little bit when people start to build teams,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: because you've got three other quarterbacks that are pretty close together,
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: so that that would potentially spread out their ownership a
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: little bit. But I think you know Josh Allen, but
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: it's not to a point where it's like, oh, I
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: can't play Josh Allen. I mean it's a two games
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: like guys like you can you can play just about anyone.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: So definitely like Josh Allen, you know Joe Burrow. I think,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: you know, getting T Higgins back is big. I don't
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: think there's any restrictions. I looked earlier. I didn't see
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: anything like is there any restrictions on T Higgins or
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: is he just full go?
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: We don't really know.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, trying to dig to see if there's
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: any coach talk about you know, only playing eighty percent
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: of snaps or something like that. I couldn't find it,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna assume that he's full goo, and
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: that's obviously good for Burro. Jade Daniels, I think is
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: an interesting one because you know, he's looked good fantasy
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: wise through two games, but the pass catcher pass catchers
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: with him have not worked out. I mean, Terry McLaurin
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: has done nothing this year, and I really think it's
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: gonna be a down year for McLaurin. I mean, Jade
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: and Daniels and him, I don't think at this point
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: not necessarily good fit. So when we get to wide receiver,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: it will definitely be an interesting, you know, conversation around
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: a guy like scary Terry what do they call him?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: F one? Like I was. I just found out about
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago, f one, So you know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: what you want to do with him, I think is
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: a big question, just because it has not looked good
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: between those two. And then the hard one for me,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: and I know he's going to be long, is Trevor Lawrence.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I just think he's just not very good. I mean,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: he's not very good. And we talked about it all
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: last season. Like the upside is like, I mean, he's
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: good for fifteen fans see points and you rarely see
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: a ceiling game from him. I mean you rarely see.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: It hasn't been great so far this season. Tough spot
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: in Buffalo. Like, I just I don't know. He's the
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: one that I could just say, you know what, he's
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: still going to get some other and that is the
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: one thing. Yes, he's going to be low owned, but
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: he's still going to get a significant amount of ownership.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: He's probably ends up somewhere ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen percent,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: somewhere in that range. So when I build my teams,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I could potentially just not play I just I don't
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: think he's good. I think the spot is tough. We'll see,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see, but it wouldn't be I'm not
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: going to have like an overweight approach on Lawrence. If
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I do play him, it'll probably be below the field, and
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: that would just be to kind of get everything else
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: to work. But I think you're looking at I really
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: do think Allen and Burrow probably come up a little
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: bit higher than Jayden Daniels. Now that we talk about
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: talk through this just because of the past catchers with
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Allen and Burrow, the guys that you can play. If
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: you play Burrow, you have you know, t Higgins, you
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: have Jamar Chase, the premieer wide receiver on the slate.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: So I think Allen and Burrow probably separate themselves a
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: little bit. Then there might be a little bit of
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: a gap to Daniel's and a significant gap down to
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. But again, you can definitely make the case
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: for all four of these guys on a small two
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: game slate. I just really don't like Lawrence at all.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and someone brought it up too earlier, but there's
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you know, two pretty good totals here for both the
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: games equal. And that's another way to get different on
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: these slates is played seven guys from one game and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: just move the other two off the other one and
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: just hope you pick the right spots. Like it's just
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: another thing that you can do. People won't necessarily always
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: overstack one. They'll just try and pick a couple of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: pieces from all of them, and they think I got
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you know, more of a cash or optimal style lineup.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: We're like, okay, I can get the two best from
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: this side two best from that side only really like
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: one guy on that team and then three bills or something,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, that's how they'll set it up.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: So I agree there. I do agree also too on
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the Josh Allen steam. People are just gonna have the money,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and when they are comfortable moving down or leaving it,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: they're gonna go back and spend it again because they're
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: gonna go. Well, I could just leave it, or I
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: also could just take this guy up to Josh Allen.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: So whoever it ends up being, so agree on that
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the only thing I'll say. And it works for Jade
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: and Daniels too, so it still does make it tough
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: on the tee law side of things. But I say
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: this all the time, and we're obviously promoting a ton
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: of college football now. We have a great college football product,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: great team behind it. Dejanerate seventy five running the stuff,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: our guy Bill, the rest of the team putting it
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: all together. Lots of good people in the discord taking
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: care of the members. But in college football, you play
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: superflex and the benefit of that is you play quarterback
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: vers quarterback in a lot of cases. Right, you get
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: that set up so you can't do that on these slates.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: But remember that that is the correlation. So if Josh
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Allen is having a huge game, there's a chance Trevor
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: it's because Trevor Lawrence is somehow sticking in it with
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: his guys, or he sets it off early and so
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on and so forth. Maybe works better for Jayden Daniels,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: because I do think it'll go Allen, then Burrow, then Daniels,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: then Tee law But we'll see how it shakes out
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and ownership comes out. But I do think Daniels that
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: can work for as well. So if the steam comes
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: off Daniels to Alan, it makes you like Daniels a
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: little bit more as well, because he can do it
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: with his legs. He can man, he can do a
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: lot of things where you can also just run into
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: another guy and be out for the game if we're
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: talking injuries. But he's got to learn to slide. That's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: one thing. But interesting.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And one another point I wanted to bring up
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: because it just reminded me as you were talking through
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it is the quarterback position this year and the low
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: numbers that we see in the low fantasy output. So
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: even looking at you know this two games slate where
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: they do have decent totals, like seventeen could be the
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: winning score at quarterback, like that could be the highest
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: scoring quarterback on the slate. It would not be surprising
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: at all. Look at it last week with Josh with
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, they smoked the Dolphins and he put up
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: nine fantasy point because they didn't need to do anything.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: They just didn't need to do it. So that's one
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: other thing to you know, keep keep in mind when
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: building teams tonight.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And I also think one other thing, just quickly on
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the Jayden Daniels side of it, is that I know
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that there's you know, Brian Robinson and Eckler, there's Terry McLaurin,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: zach Ertz, whatever. I don't think people are using many
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: commanders on this slate. Like once the ownership actually shakes out,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: like E said, people will be happy just to leave
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: commanders completely off their lineup. So again, imagine when you
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: build just a Daniels McLaurin stack or a Daniels McLaurin
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Ertz fill the rest out with Bills and Cincy, you'll
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: feel chalky, but you have a stack and a full
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lineup on that side of three guys that is already
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: so unique and in the end when it wins and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: someone goes, oh, they just played all the chalk. No,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: they played a bunch of chalk, because everyone's chalk on
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: these slates, and they played the stack on the side
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that nobody was on, or way less people. Again, everybody's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: playing something. But in general, so I wanted to bring
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that up. I'll go to you title in a second.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But the realist is the realist came through, got on
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that said, I'll get the logo up. Ross said too,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: do I need to fix that? There are as cool
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: but the Yeah, we definitely notice the ship at logos
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: when we're going through, So I would definitely recommend it
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: if you want it shut up through our guy Trevor
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Bryan ship at logos. We're talking getting your logos fixed
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: up and set up our guy tb Man. He gets
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it done in the discord for us, and then he
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: got the logo he just naturally pops up. So shout
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: out to those guys. Title your thoughts at quarterback? What
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: do you got?
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with a lot of the stuff you said.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I think is Josh Allen Burrow the ownership projections we're having.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I do think Daniels gives like a not a distant third,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: but I think it's clearly t law. We have him
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: at six percent, and if it's six percent, I'm in.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Like six percent on a two game with a million
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: different receiving options that are all be relatively low is shown,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: So I'm definitely in on that, and you can jam
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: chalk a lot easier elsewhere. The Daniel stuff A lot
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: of the reasons why I like him the same as you. Ay,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: He's just yet as you show a week one, he
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: has that thirty plus point upside because of his legs
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: in any game script plus one forty five to score.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: But more importantly, people just aren't playing commanders. Outside of
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Terry McLaurin. You can play Daniels naked on this late.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: You can also play him and then not play him
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: with Terry. Yes, it definitely feels gross, but zach Ertz
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: we talked about last week, don't mind him. He'll be
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: very low owned the Luke mccaffreys. I saw her Man
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Hebrew right up the top said Noah Brown season. I
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: think he's wide receiver three this week. His snapcot went
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: up last week. They brought him in after they traded Dotson.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I think Noah Brown of three percent, he falls in
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the box. That's the stuff you'll see up top a
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: solo ship or there so a guy that'll be on
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the field him McCaffrey. You can't play at one terry
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: of course as well, but he's going to be by
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: far higher than the other ones. Again, you can eat
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: all the chalcoup around that. The problem is with me
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: is Burrow, and I've been going back and forth on stuff.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: It's the nut matchup against the commanders, for sure, But
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Jamar Chase we have like ninety percent own he will
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: by far be the highest element of side even close
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: because of the position, because.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Of the salary, the raw points.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: So if you play Burrow and you're probably playing Chase
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: with him, then you're picking what a Higgins or a
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Giseki or a Yoshi Vas. Everyone else will be doing
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: that too, like the thirty two percent Joe Burrow thirty
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: one percent play Chase and then how everyone else? What
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: mixes in just one those other guys. Feels like I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: just landing on a more concentrated build structure than i
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: would with other spots.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Because you go.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen and why he is probably one of my favorite.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: He is my favorite. He's minus one forty to score there.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: But at the highest receiver we have with them or
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: pass catcher, I'll say Kink thirty two, Shakir thirty, Coleman eleven,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Samuel seven, Max six, like if he throws a ten,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: and you can play James Cook with him too. Granted,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: you can play Jaded Daniels with Austin Eckler, I think
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: is very easy. I don't mind the ETN with Lawrence.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I don't love the running backs there as much, though.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Chase Brown is a way to play Burrow and get
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: different over Zach Moss. But I do think you can
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: easily play James Cook with Alan. But the pass catchers
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: everyone's scared of. If you get the right pass catchers
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: that fall in the box and it's him through his
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: arm and not his legs or he just gets one,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I think talking through it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Burrow at ownership is probably my.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Least favorite, just because I think it gets you in
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the most concentrated builds, doesn't have the rushing upside Lawrence
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: had his own ownership. I can easily make a case
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: there so many pass catchers. Daniels with his legs and yeah,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Josh for obvious reasons, but it's mainly the pass catchers.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: The ownership projecting around is what I'm looking at these
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks and why Burrow I'm struggling with a little bit
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: at thirty two percent or whatever it is.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's all about how you build
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: tell a story. But that's the other thing. I think
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: when people go Chase, they naturally go Burrow. You can
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: get him into Josh Allen lineup's easy. I'm just saying
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that's the opposite. But if Chase actually has a big
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: day again, he can also on Hoop talks about us
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: all the time. When we get to wide receiver, we'll
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: talk about it. Where at seventy five hundred on a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: two game slate, he's he's also like ninety percent. He's
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: way up there to be optimal based on projection price
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and the fact you have to fill out at least three,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: if not four spots with a wide receiver because you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: have a flex as well that you could use one in.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: So he's just so much more likely to show up
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: either way. So what I'm looking at is different ways,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Like if he actually does break the slate where he's
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: needed beyond just he ends up being needed, then it's
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: gonna probably be with Burrow. But I think everyone does
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: go the ex layer. You always talk about levels title
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: people put him in, they can't stop. Now they're like, oh,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and I gotta get Kiseki in there too, because I'm
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: gonna triple stack it if Burrow's gonna go off and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna run it back with Terry McLaurin. But why
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: not put a Zach Moss or a Chase Brown into
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that stack double chase with Burrow? Why not use Eckler
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: or Noah Brown as the run back? And then your
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: story is that Burrow is gonna be the highest scoring quarterback. Well,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: now you probably want to see about getting Etn and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: James Cooking or something where that game is on the ground.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: You naturally fill out four to five, maybe six spots
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in your lineup without even having to do work. You
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: just came up with a concept, you built it out,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and then you said, okay, now I gotta fill these
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: last few spots. That's where having something like shif Deviser
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: comes in. You can lock in that build ten lineups. Okay,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I hate them all, let me switch this. Let me
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: go from Eckler down to Noah Brown with more money. Oh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I really like these. Now I'm getting at Etn, I'm
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: getting James Cook, I'm getting a couple other you know,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: possession receivers that can rack up PPR points. So go
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: with your story, but remember that that's definitely a possibility.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And even on the Jade and Daniels side, you could
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: just do something like Jayden Daniels, Noah Brown or Jaden
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Daniel zach Ertz. You gotta fill the tight end spot anyway.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: If you don't love Brenton Strange or Goseki and you
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: don't want to play the most popular in what's likely
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to be Kinkaid, people will probably play two tight end again.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: We'll get there later, but just to give an example,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: that's where you can stop and again people will be like, oh,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you played all the same dudes and everyone else. Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: but I had Jaden, Daniels and zach Ertz as my
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: starting point. That is a massive difference, especially when you
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: get to higher dollar, smaller field, because Josh Allen is
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: going to be so much more popular and steam there
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: like we talked about, and Joe Burrow is going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: come in next after that, just because people will naturally
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: move there when Chase is ninety five percent on that
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: spot as well. So just little things like that, hoop,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: anything else you want to add on quarterback. If not,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: you could take us into running back.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. At one point I thought that was pretty good.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Was the Burrow stuff title talking about that, It's like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: what percent of teams the Joe Burrow teams have Jamar
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Chase in there. It's gotta it's gonna end up being like, yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: just like an astronomical amount. So it's like, when you
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: play that pairing, it gives you less options in terms
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: of like ways to get different. So I think that
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: is one, you know, interesting talking point because there's.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: One talking point back though, is it can't be ninety
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: nine percent because Josh Allen is getting played easily on
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: this slate. If Chase is ninety percent and Allen's thirty,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: there's it's.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Just noto lineups will have Chase.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying overall, Okay, I know what you're saying.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Now with yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if someone's playing Burrow,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: what percent of those teams have Chase And there's got
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to be in the nineties. It's in the nineties for sure.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: If you know, Chase is going to be the highest one. Dude,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: It's extremely high. So one way to go about doing
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Burrow teams differently is just to leave a ton of
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: money on the table. Just go down from Chase to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to Higgins or something like that. I mean, but yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: it's just you miss out on an opportunity to get
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: different for sure with you know, Burrow Chase. Okay, could
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: it be Burrow Chase tonight? One hundred percent? It could be,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I mean one hundred percent. Burrow's relatively cheap. Chase is
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: by far the highest upside guy on the sled. It
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: could be that you need both of them, but I
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: think it is at an interesting talking point. Running backs,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of solid plays. I mean, you
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: got viable plays from from every team. James Cook looks
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: like the most stable. For sure, he'll be the highest owned. Uh. Again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: they are willing if they get a lead to just
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: pound James Cook in. They're favored by what six right
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: around six to night five and a half or six.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: If they get a lead, it's going to be a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: lot of James Cook.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And I think he's a phenomenal play ETN is interesting
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: just because he's more expensive, projected lower but more expensive
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: at at seven K. Again, salary is not going to
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: be a huge factor. That's the one annoying part of
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: which they kind of would have bumped these guys up
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit. You're gonna be able to play whoever
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: you want. So I was going to say, you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Etn being the most expensive, has a chance to go,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you know, a little not overlooked, but come in a
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: little aud It's just not the case. It's going to
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: be easy to play him. I really like the Washington guys,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Robinson Junior and even Eckler Daniels. I think he's gonna
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: have a problem throwing the ball down the field this year,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and we've seen it so far. And so I don't
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: really like Terry McLaurin. We'll talk about that at the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: next position. So in lieu of playing Terry mccorm which
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: he's probably gonna be in my playerpool, but I'll be
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: underweight on McLaurin. Probably just get overweight on these running backs,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Brian Robinson Junior and even Eckler. I mean, it's not
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a comfortable play, but man, if they're trailing, both these
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: guys could see a lot of dump Austin. Both had
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: solid targets in the last game. I mean, Brian Robinson
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Junior had three targets, brought them all in, had four
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: of the or no, he did not bring them all in.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Three targets and one reception. I'm not worried about the
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: one reception. He had three targets last week, four targets
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: the week before, and you know what you're getting with
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Eckler four targets, three targets and brought all seven in
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: so far this season. So I think both these guys
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: are strong plays. Zach Moss is clearly the guy in Cincinnati.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: They're favored by seven and a half, they get the lead,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: he could easily find the end zone. So I think
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: there's five viable running back plays. You know. Etn's probably
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: my least favorite, and I like the fact that it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: showing a pretty high ownership percentage on him because I
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: will most likely be underweight on ETM. We're showing forty
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: five is so probably right around fifty percent on ETN.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: He's the guy that I can just be out on
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and you leave money on the table too. In those
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: teams go from you know, have a team that you like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: go from ETN down to Brian Robinson or down to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Austin Eckler. I think it's totally fine. It's gonna be
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be underweight on a lot of the Jacksonville stuff.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, Buffalo at home primetime spot a team that's
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: willing to win ugly games now. I mean we saw
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: it last week. They got a lead and just ended
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: it with the Dolphins, so they can just muddy up
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: these games in a hurry. So probably underweight on a
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: lot of jackson stuff. But those other four running backs
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: look really really good to me, and so again one
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: way to do it a little different. Build a team
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: with ETM and then just go ahead and drop down
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to either Robinson Moss. I clear, then you're leaving at
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: least eleven in more in those other scenarios.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, title, I'll get your thoughts in a second and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: just go back to it for two seconds on the quarterbacks.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: That I guess that was one thing I was gonna
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: say about the Burrow stuff is you know I would
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: still have interested in that because now you know exactly
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: how to build your lineups differently when you're playing Burrow. Again,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: if Burrow's thirty five percent owned of the field. Let's
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: just say that's the number. You could have thirty percent Borrow,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: but have you know, very small percentage with Chase and
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: now you're you're actually way overweight on Burrow lineups songs Chase.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: You've got the ones without them, so it's like that's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: how you get there with that one. So I still
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: have interest in that, and I guess I'll go to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Title on this. But the the Jags ownership stuff still
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: excites me on all of it. I know it's the opposite.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If the Bills are this high powered,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: top team, why are they five and a half at home?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Like they should just smash these Jags. They suck smash them.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But it reminds me of yesterday, and I think Title
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you had this call very early on the show yesterday.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: It worked out very nicely. Was everyone's playing Kamara because
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: what he did the week before, James Cook will probably
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: be eighty to Etn's forty or fifty. Well, while he
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: is a forty or fifty percent on running back, he's
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: almost half of James Cook in the exact opposite spot
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: like Barkley was to Kamara yesterday. And we're now taking
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: it down from thirteen or twelve or whatever it was
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: yesterday to two games. It matters that much more. It
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: gives you that much more leverage even at that number,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: so I at least still have some interest. I think
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the backups for those two teams, like Tank and Ray
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Davis are actual potential guys. I mean, all the backups
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: are in play on this late. It's not again, we're
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: not here to at least me. I'm not going to
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: give you special conviction play number one. It's concepts, ideas
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and theories you can apply to your lineups to try
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: and give yourself a shot to get to the top.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So my take on the ETM one is pretty strong.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I think that's on an opposite side thing makes a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: lot of sense to me. There way to leverage it,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and then I think obviously the Washington guys fit into
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that mold as well. I liked what Nid's brought up
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to another thought process example. Nobody has this like Daniels,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: b Rob and ERT's nobody in the sense of very
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: little and you just cover off. If the commanders are
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: in it and they're near the end zone, that could
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: very easily just be what they target. It's either b
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Rob or Daniels that run it in probably or they
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: make a pass and if it's not the Terry McLaurin,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: who's the chalk of the chalk on that team, you
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: could see it go to earth. So yeah, going with
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: those running backs in those type of builds as well.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I think title maybe people will go to some backup
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: running backs just because they saw it win the MILLI
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that last time, and that'll get brought up a lot today.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, the backup running. The thing is we
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: have saw the three of the four teams. So I'll
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: start with Buffalo because I'm not really going to play
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: any Ray Ray Davis.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: He's plus four to twenty five to score.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Almost all of his work last week was in the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter when it was getting blown out. With all
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: that being said, he's going to be really low on
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: It's a two game slate. Random things happen. That is
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: how you win all the money. I just think there's
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: enough ways. I'll be Jacksonville. I'll go right to Jacksonville. Yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: he'll probably be etm My. I'll be most overweight to
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: him out of anybody in the running back position. I'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: just gonna be embracing Jacksonville today because of ownership, hoping
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: that I mean Jackson I still think Lawrence is a
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: solid quarterback, gave Davis. We's seen him do it, Brian Thomas,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: and I think's good. There's like, I think they're actually
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: solid football team. So I'm gonna be embracing them. I'm
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: gonna be playing a good amount of ETM. I do
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: not mind Tank Bigsby if you want to go that route,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: though in Verry Chalky lineups to get difference.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Other side.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I talked about James Cook. I' mean in a vacuum,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: he's the best running back play.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: He might be seventy five percent home, I might have
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: eighty percent James Cook like he's minus one twenty to score.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: He's by far the best five and that point favorites
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: coming off a massive game can catch passes. There's nothing
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: bad to say about him. But when you start plugging
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: in Chase Cook XYZ, you're getting in the same builds again.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: You can play Cook, you can play Chase another enough
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: spots to get different.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Just know he will be mega mega chalk commanders.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I'm Brian Robinson's look good man like the eye test
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: for me this year, the running scheme or the running
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: ability that Jaden Daniels has keeps the enz down. There
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: makes linebackers the defense has to focus on the pull
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: every time they give it to Robinson too.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: So even though they're dogs twenty eight percent, roughly two
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: touched on upside, I'm in big Naids and then Eckler
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: and so people are asking and I'll.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Finish this up quick and then I'll throw it back
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: to you.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: But I don't know what Kenny playing Moss and Chase
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Brown in the same lineup, Yeah you can. You can
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: do anything you want. Kenny, play Robinson and Eckler. Sure
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: you can. Is the likely like is the likelihood of
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: that being on the winner? If I'm playing Moss and
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Brown together, I'm not playing Burrow. I'm probably not playing Chase.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: I'm telling myself that they got all the touchdowns. They
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: just ran the football down their throat all game. So
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: you can and stories like that, but it's not my
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: favorite thing to do. It will be different, but there's
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: other ways I prefer getting different. So Eckler, he's in
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: play pass catching. If they're down their trailing, you see
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of dump offfs.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Robin said. If they're ahead.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I like both of them, and the other side, Zach Moss,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Chase Brown Man fifty percent Zach Moss, I don't love that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: That's probably my least favorite running back play on the board,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: if it has to be fifty percent. But all these
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: begals are getting so much ownership, I think I'm gonna
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: hope it's a Yoshi Boss Gooseki, maybe a T. Higgins
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: because it's probably gonna Biggles are gonna score some points.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe Chase Brown too.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: If all of it's gonna go to Moss and Chase,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I think I just want to hope it's probably not
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: those two, or at least only one of those two
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: get there.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: So well, I.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Think I think the reason we're seeing the big numbers
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: ownership numbers on the running backs. A lot of people
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: end up going three running backs today. Like when we
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: go in there and just look at the value and
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the price tags, people are gonna want to be on
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: these running backs. You go to wide receiver, a lot
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: of uncertainty, not many, you know, standout value plays, so
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: we see I think we see a lot of three
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: running back lineups today, and that obviously is the reason
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: why these ownership numbers look so big on these guys.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna touch on that this one first though, Like, yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: everybody sucks so many Jouywan Jennings sucked until you dropped
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: fifty yesterday. It's like, this is how this works. You're
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: talking about Brenton Strange, zach Ertz, Mike Gaseki, and Dalton Kincaid.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And yes, we're not idiots. We do this for a living.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: We know Dalton Kinkaid is far and away the best
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: tight end there, so does everybody else, and that's why
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be owned that way. If you need money
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: and you're punting a position, the absolute best position to
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: do it at is a onesie position where there's only
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: gonna be four to five. I mean, even if these
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: backups get in a Dawson Knox affair, that could be
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: enough that they score a touchdown. That's it. So if
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you're punting it off, we saw Lineup score two hundred
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and twenty five points yesterday with a zero from Greg Daltin, Like,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: it's just that's the position to punt off and be
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: done with it. So it actually doesn't matter who sucks
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: or who's good, it's what does the rest of your
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: lineup do And I also feel yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Ten points last time too. You can be as bad
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: as if he's on the field. The code like ten
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: to sixty k points that could be enough to this.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Jerry McLaurin is fifty. That's like yesterday. Guess what, Davonte Smith.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It sucks he got injured. We know how good the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: spot was, but it's just a prime example, not even
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the injury of a are you just bad game? These
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: guys that you think are the best can have a
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: bad game and then all of a sudden, Goddard has
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: what do you have, thirty points or something that could
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: just be Ertz has sixteen on this late not a
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Goddard type number, nothing like that, but sixteen could break
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the slates.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And if you want to talk about Dusty tight Ends,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I mean you have to look no further than Travis Kelcey.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: So all that sort of counter talk needs to be
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: pushed towards Kelsey.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Another one shout out there a guy Chunky Blue always
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: in here supporting. I appreciate you, is do the defense matter? No,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that at the end. But like you
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: can literally plug in anything and you can play it
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: against your quarterback. Really, whatever you want to do with
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: defenses is fine. I was gonna say that back just
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: my stuff the round at the running back. I also
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: don't believe Zach Moss's number. I know there's seven and
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: a half points favorites at home, but when we know
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Chase is gonna be like ninety, we know Burrow is
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be thirty to thirty five, somewhere in that kind
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: of range, and you can stack them up together. You
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: can play Burrow, Moss and Chase. I'm fine with it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't think Moss's number stays ownership
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: wise where it's at. I think it will come down
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I believe in James Cook. I even
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: think Etn could get steamed a little bit to hoops
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: point earlier. I think people are gonna be more comfortable
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: with Brian Robinson Junior and maybe even a little bit
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: more Eckler. That brings a little bit of that up
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and Zach Moss down. But to our guy GK. Pheiffer's point,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: love this slate for DFS, he's probably just getting here,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Lady says, can't wait to hear y'alls take. But it's
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: definitely a spot where we usually have two games slates
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: that are clean cut. This one we have a lot
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: more angles that we can play it from. So title
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to you want to talk about wide receiver,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe wide receiver.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Let's just go a team by team. I think it'll
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: be easier.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville side Kirk, Brian Thomas gave Davis really really easy.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about anyone else. Ownership wise,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: we have forty two percent Thomas twenty five, Kurt roughly
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: twenty five. Gave Davis all of that feels really good,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: especially if you're playing Lawrence, who's six percent or whatever
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I mean on all of them. Brian Thomas has looked
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: like the best, biggest play upside rookie. He's also forty
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: nine hundred where Kirk's fifty two, but at almost double
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: the ownership. Really know strongly in there, Kirk's been awful. Hey,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: it's only two week sample. I'll buy into twenty five percent.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Kirk on a two games late, so I like them all.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: You can play two of them even if you don't
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: play at Trevor, Lawrence and stuff, Josh Allen keon Coleman
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: and then just go more Jaggs on the other side,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: thinking Josh does it with his legs, puts up a
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: new Jaggs receivers, keep it close, so so many ways
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: you can go Jacksonville. It's those three no one else
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Buffalo side kind of the same stuff where it's really hard,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: like there's Josh Allen with his legs, there's James Cook,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: there's Kinkaid that's tight end, and then it usually goes
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Kean Coleman Shakir.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Yes, you can play Curtis Samuel if you want. Yes,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: he can mix and Net Collins if you want. Really
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: just large, large, large field stuff Shaki. We have thirty
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: Coleman eleven. Keon Coleman's definitely my favorite play, probably one
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: of my favorite receivers is then at this number eleven percent,
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: he was on the field a ton. I mean, he's
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: coming off a zero. But week one the usage was good,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: it wasn't bad. In week two, rookie, I like Kean
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Coleman a lot at that number. And again, is it
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: crazy if he somehow outscored Jamar Chase today?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Do you want to make that one v one pivot
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: to win five hundred K instead of winning forty five
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: K or whatever it is.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: I think he has a better chance than that. So
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: little things you can always do with the wide.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Receiver position, leaving money Buffalo probably just Shakir Coleman mainly
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: for me though again Alan stuff.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: You can mix in the other ones to get crazy Washington.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: If you're playing Daniels, almost everyone will be playing Terry
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: mcclaur and he will be popular. Fifty seven hundred, Noah Brown,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Luke McCaffrey, the other two guys that will take shots
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: on pretty much just jaded Daniels lineups.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: It is really really gross.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: This is the thing.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: If you're playing one hundred man tournament, I'm not playing
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: those bumps playing a.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Two K tournament maybe one of them.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: This is the eighty eight thousand people content as those
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: guys fall in the box once we just saw Juju
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: do it and win people too, and her k so
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Brown and what's his nuts, Luke McCaffrey. I'm fine with
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: bingals side. Everyone is going to be playing Jamar Chase rightfully.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: So the T Higgins stuff, yeah, if we don't hear
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: any coach speak, I think I'm going to be in
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I mentioned it before. T and Yoshi Vas like Chase
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Moss are getting a bunch of the stuff T Higgins
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: is playing. You assume they're not going to rush him
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: back if he's not ready to go, Especially with all
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: these injuries we've seen early, he could easily outscore Jamar.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Chase Yoshi Vas a lot of hype in preseason, has
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: played pretty well this year. Bengals will run plenty of
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: three receiver sets. I'm going to be totally in on
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: him too. When I played Burrow stuff, I'll really be
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: looking at the Yoshi's the T Higgins.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: That's I think I'll throw back to you on this Tampa.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: If I am going Burrow.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's where I just completely overstep because I don't
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: see myself not playing Chase too many times in Burrow stuff.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: But I think you go Chase Yoshi Vass Higgins throws
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: for three fifty the other game busts a little bit.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I think more on talking about it. That is how
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna play Burrows.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing I'll say quickly just about a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: couple spots here, because I'm not gonna you know, you
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: did a great job round and I'll let Hoop talk.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: But the couple things. One I don't believe Yoshi Vas
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: just goes away like the guy's been playing just fine
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: for them, they alread hyped him out. Why does he
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: just say again two things and flipping that the other
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: side of that game. How does Terry McLaurin just become
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: good all of a sudden he's been horrible, like they
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: still have to get him the ball. It's the same quarterback,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: it's the same setup. They're going into Sincy, tough spot
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: to play, and they are big dogs seven and a
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: half points even if they cover whatever. It's like, it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: not hard for me to ignore McLaurin if he's gonna
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: be forty to fifty percent on. Usually when people go
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: back to the well on someone or they're looking for
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: flop leg or something, that literally means there's no ownership
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: on the guy because they've sucked and so everyone's done
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: with them. This guy sucked and everyone still wants to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: play him. So it to me, I don't believe in that,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: and I don't believe in the Yoshi Vas just going
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: away completely because te Higgins comes back. Well, they want
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: to mix Higgins in, yes, but Yoshivas has still done
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: his job and now his angle just gets cleared up
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: that much further on the field. I know there's talks
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: about Jermaine Burton and all this stuff too. Sure they're
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: there too. I'm just saying, with chase An Higgins out there,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: a guy like Yoshivah should be even more open. So
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: that's really the way I would look at that. We'll
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: see how it actually shakes out. But that's a couple
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: thoughts from my end. Who I guess the last one
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville gave Davis revenge game, Yes, but like Christian Kirk
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: is still a very good receiver. Brian Thomas has been
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the best for them so far. It looks like early
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: ownership is Brian Thomas Junior. But I think there is
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about Davis and stuff going
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: on there. So I mean, there's definitely options on all
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: these teams, but some things I believe in don't believe in.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Where are you at with it?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you guys have done a phenomenal job
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: talking about this position. A lot of similar thoughts from
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: myself here. The Jaguar stuffs is very clear. I mean,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Kirk gave Davis, Brian Thomas all fine options. All guys
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I'll have exposure to if I had to pick one,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: because I'm not playing a lot of Trevor Lawrence or
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: potentially fading on, I'm just gonna probably side with the
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: cheapest one. Gave Davis Revenge Game all that stuff. He
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: looked pretty good, big time upside at forty two hundred.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: But again, I'll have exposure to all three and you
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: don't really need to worry about the rest. Uh. The
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: reason I like Josh Allen stuff the most is because
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: it's just so easy to get like a little bit
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: different with any if you pair him with any of
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: these pass catchers, Like who's the highestone pass catcher right now?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Who's between like Coleman Shakir, like what they're on? Cool
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Coleman probably.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: But King Kid will be the thing they'll be in
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: check at the end of the day.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing, like and well we'll talk
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: about tight end in a minute, but man, to me,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: King Kaid like seems like a phenomenal My bad.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: My bad.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But again, it's not like a crazy number anything
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: on a two games late, so like there's many different
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: things you can do on intro. Matt Collins at thirty two,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: he's had red zone looks this year. I know he's
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: got the one touchdown, like I'd play that and I'm
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: gonna throw one name out there, and it's absolutely fucking
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: disgusting and it's so gross. But they did try hit
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: him with the bomb, no one, to no one's surprise,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: it did not fucking work, like it never works when
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: when SCA MVS gets a bomb. But they did try
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: throwing one to him. He's thirty one hundred to two
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: games late. If by some act of God, he happens
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: to catch the ball and go into the end zone,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: like he's gonna be on the winner. So that's just
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: like a dart throw in. Josh Allen stax for me,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: like I am going to take a couple of chances
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: on MVF. I mean it was a deep bomb. But again,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the guy, he's like what two percent to catch a
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: deep bomb, dating back to like his time in the Casey,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: it's like terrible. He's so bad, and teams continue to
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: pick this guy up for some reason, Like I don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: get it, like how is he still in the NFL.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: He's done nothing ever, But again Josh, well, Josh Allen
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: is willing to take chances and he could, you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: try it again and it's probably gonna be unsuccessful. But
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: he's his ownership has to be like zero on this slate.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I assume what is mvs Like, no one's gonna play him?
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah zero, So just who? So I'm gonna it's a
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: dart throw playing tournaments for Josh Allen teams commander stuff is.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I don't get the Terry McLaurin thing. I hope that
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: number is right. I hope like he's shown up in
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: forty to fifty percent of lineups today because the connection
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: with Jadie Daniels has not been good and I just
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: don't see it improving. Like, I just don't understand how
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: it's Terry McLaurin that you need on the slate. If
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: it is cool, I probably lose money today, and guess what,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: that's fine. I'll move on to the next thing, next slate.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Whatever I'm doing, I'm not crossing Terry McLaurin out of
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: my player pool. But I am guessing I haven't built
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: teams yet. I'm guessing that I will be significantly underweight.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I just think there's so many better pivots. You know, Tamba,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: you talked about Yoshi, Like, I think that's a great
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: talking point, like all these guys over McLaurin for me,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: and again, I'll probably have some just because it's a
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: two game slate and you know, might need it to work.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: But I am not thrilled with the McLaurin play. I'm
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: thrilled with ownership though, because if that is the true
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: number on him, you know that will probably end up
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: being one of my bigger stands on the sled underweight
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: on him or I don't know what I build, I
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: could potentially fade his ass. We'll see.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just gonna to one thing quick on it,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: because like that's the other thing he does show up
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: at his price and his projection as he's going to
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: be a guy that's involved. When you have four potential
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: wide receivers so you can put into your line, you
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: must put three. But I just don't believe it when
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: there's again it's the numbers of the numbers. But when
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: you have three options on the Jags three to four,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: if you bring MBS into it for the bills that
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: can do it. You already got Chase that's shown up
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: everywhere on top of Higgins, Yoshivas, the Burtons of the world.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Noah Brown mccap like, any of these guys can show
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: up on one play, he just can't be as often.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: He can't show up as often as what it's saying
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: he's going to show up. So that's why I would
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: bring that up. Go ahead back to you.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I'm fine with some of the cheaper guys,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: both Browns, Diani and Noah Brown thirty three, so what
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: he was inactive week one? Noah Brown then hopped in
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: and played I don't know, decent amount of snaps three
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: catches for like fifty eight yards. So I'd be way
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: more interested in just taking flyers on the cheap Washington
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: pass catchers opposed to Terry McLaurin. And then we'll talk
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: about ERZ when we get the tight end, we'll do
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: it quickly.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I got two more quick wide receiver thoughts though, Yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: two quick ones. One is Noah Brown might be everything
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: we wanted tanked L to B yesterday, another former guy
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: from there. He could come out and be the dude
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: that you just need on this slate, be a spot
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: for the commanders. And the chat brought it up earlier,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: but I was gonna bring it up anyway. We talked
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: about this on the review show earlier and yesterday's show
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: too about with Minshew and chewing into the ownership by
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: playing different stacks along that game. We know King Kid
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: is going to be popular. We could definitely see a
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: game where the Jags are just trying to get after
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen and it's just checked downs to James Cook,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: a guy like Curtis Samuel and King Kaid, and Curtis
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Samuel is getting no ownership at forty four hundred. He
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: could pick up like six catches for sixty and be great,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and you could still have them with King Kid. And
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you could use those two in Josh Allen lineups and
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: just rack up the point for receptions and whatever yards
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: they get, maybe a touchdown, or you could put them
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: with Alan, but whatever their ownership is between Alan and
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Kinkaid gets slashed across the board when you pop in
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Samuel as an option into that. You could pop in
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: James Cook and Samuel and still get different because most
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: are playing Cook or Alan, or when they are playing
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: it together, it's not with Samuel. So you can still
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: play some of the popular options on the slate by
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: then slicing into them with a guy like Samuel. So
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I just look for little things like that. The chap
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: mentioned it, thought I would bring it up. Go ahead, who.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely solid talking points. Yeah, just to round it
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: out on the Bengal stuff like, yeah, obviously we know
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Chase is and it'd be very highly owned. But I
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: think t Higgins is an interesting one. If we get talk,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: if we get some sort of communication that he's you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: full go, no restrictions, which I think is the case
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: because you know a lot of times if someone's coming
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: back and there are restrictions, they kind of mention it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: And plus the two games slay, we don't need to
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: be all that pick. He doesn't know need to go
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: out at one hundred and fifty and two touchdowns. So
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: if he goes out and gets five catches for sixty
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: yards and a touchdown, probably good enough on the slate.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: So I think he could maybe get squeezed a little
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: bit just because we haven't seen him on the field.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I know obviously he's gonna have decent chunk of ownership regardless,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: but I think there's a chance it's a little bit
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: lower just because of how high the ownership is going
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: to be on Chase and the fact that he hasn't
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: been on the field the first two weeks, so I
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: think he could be a key play Yoshi and then
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: even Trenton Irlin I think is fine seeing him out
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: there a lot. I mean, yet, yes, the reps are
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: going to come way down without t Higgins, but thirty
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: five hundred dollars pass catcher, you don't need to do much,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Like three catches forty yards in a touchdown would be
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: good enough for a guy like him. So yeah, in
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: a very dynamic position. I mean a lot of talking points,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of different viable options, and yeah, kind of
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: where I'm at there, all.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Right, take us into tight end then quick coop, just
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: because like I said, not much at tight end there's
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. Defense doesn't really matter as much,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: so we won't spend time there. But we know Ingram
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: is out, so Brenton strange seven hoerbucks. We know Kinkaid
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: is the most popular even at fifty three under because
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: salary's not an issue. And then it comes down to
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Ertz and Gasek. You will get some love still, but
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be more in stacks and stuff
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: like that too, So talk through tight end real quick.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So what do you got there.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like the Kinkaid things a big talking point,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: you know, for me, definitely like he's gonna be the
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: highest done at the position for sure. But when I
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: look at this slate and look at the pass catchers,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: to me, he's probably the second best past pass catcher
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: on the slate behind Jamar Chase. And you know, the
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: week one wasn't great, but Week two they got him
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: involved right away and they ended up beating the shit
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: out of Miami and didn't have to pass the ball
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: at all. But he had four catches right out of
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: the gate, and it was them actively getting him involved.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just like all right, the play's broken, let
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: me throw it, throw it up to King Kid. It
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: was a lot of things like behind the line of scrimmage,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: just getting them going forward. I think they know he's
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: their best pass catcher and competitive games, like if the
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: game's on the line, like, I think it's Kinkaid that
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: they go to so very interested in in Kincaid. I
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: know the ownership is gonna follow, but again, it's a
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: two games slate. You can do a lot of different
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: things to get different Kinkaid is definitely a main, main
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: part of what I'll be doing today. The other guys
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: like them all kind of equally strange. Joseki Ertz, I
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: think I'll find Yeah, this own Earth's is dusty or whatever. Yeah,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I mean it's he's older, Zach Er. It's a two
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: games slate, and he has a quarterback that can't throw
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: down the field. Ertz is in the perfect spot for
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: a guy like Jayden Daniels. Four targets each of the
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: first two games, and you know, three catches, four catches
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: if he finds the end zone, like you probably need
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: him at like thirty five hundred or what is he
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: thirty seven hundred. So definitely in on. ERT's fine with
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: JASKI obviously a little bit of a bumped down with
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: t Higgins now back in the game, then the last
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: cheap dart throw is gonna be Dawson Knox. Just because
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I'm playing a lot of Josh Allen, I want exposure
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: to all the guys, as I could potentially catch a
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: touchdown for Josh Allen. I think Knox, you know, I've
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: seen him out there in the red zone quite a bit.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: They'll do double tight end stuff. So Knox is the cheap,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: dark throat type play for me at three K flat title.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Anything you want to add on top of that very.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: Easy for me.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be playing Knox or this air
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: all guy will talking him and showdown a bit. I'm
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: just playing Gaseki, Ertz, Strange, Kincaid, and I think, to
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: be honest, one of my stands to get different will
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: be I'll probably have the least amount of Kincaid at
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: least to the field, and I'm totally good dropping Kinkaid
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: to any single one of Strange, Gaseki and Ertz hoping
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: they outscore him. And that's a way to get different,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: leaving two K plus with all the cheese.
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: But Ertz is on the field.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: There was PPR Guy for rookie quarterback as the security blankets.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Strange and Evan Ingram's role.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: He actually is pretty good player himself, so I can
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: totally see him going get you eleven twelve. Like on
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: the Thursday through Monday slate, I played Brendan Stranger cash games.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: If he was on the Sunday slate yesterday, he would
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: have been the cheap tight end that people would have
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: played instead of the adult Chisnat et cetera. So can
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: make a case there and then get Zachy. Another one
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: of those eye test ones for me. But man, he
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: looks good. He gets the ball, he turns up field,
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: and he's got some pep in his step.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: So yeah, they they keep looking to him in the
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: red zone too, shoulders Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: So again, Higgins there might coming back. Probably does hurt
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: him a bit.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: But at ownership, I mean, KK by far will be
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: the highest owned. Again, I'm not not playing him, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I do think I'll be the least owned out of
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: all of them.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: But I'm just playing four tight ends.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I like a Seci as much
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: as everybody does, but I like the other stuff. I'm
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: definitely in on zach Ertz. I am in on Strange
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: just because the price. Like I said, it's also if
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I'm punting off, I just want to punt for the most.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: It's the most value at the cheapest price. On what
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: could happen. It doesn't really matter even if he gets
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: to twenty five thirty, but whatever, it's fine. Like it's
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: twenty seve hundred bucks and I don't necessarily see the
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: tight ends that are breaking the slate. Kinkaid could do it.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: So I'm in on Kinkaid. That's the ones that I'm
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: highest on are those three Ertz, Kincaid, and Strange and
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: just leave it at that, and other guys will trickle in,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, but for the most part, that's the overall look.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are gonna waste a
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: lot of money, and it's fine, like at tight end,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like they'll try and make stuff work. I'm seeing sample
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: in the chat knocks all this may not even be needed,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: may not even be how it works. So again, anything
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: can happen two games slate. But I'm just looking to,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: you know, move on the main three there and then
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: move around at the other positions. We talked through all
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the other stuff you can do with those other ones.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I'll give a couple more thoughts though, based on not
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: doing much there is you know, Bengals or sorry, commanders
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: D get overweight, play them against Chase. You know how
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: many people are handbuilding today that fit Chase into every
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: lineup they build, or they set the rule and the
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: optimizer that you can't play the D against the flex
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: or something it's auto set on. Some optimizers play the
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Commander's D but play Chase in the same lineup. It's
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: already just somewhat separating you just at that level, no
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: different than the versus Josh Allen. We always talk about that,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: and that's more common if you're playing the Trevor Lawrence.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Hoop is not high on it. It
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: sounds like titles with me. If you're playing that, play
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: some Trevor Lawrence with the Jags, D play those two together,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: you're already you're double leveraging, like you're off Allen to
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: the opposite side, and you're saying because of that, it
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: may not even just be that it's a shootout or anything.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Let me run down to the next one. And yeah,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: we talked about Eckler and Robinson and in depth at
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: that position earlier, so you know, not much more to
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: add their title. Do you have anything on defense? I
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: know it's like again, you could plug in whatever I'm
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: trying to combo up some stuff that would be unique
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: to the field where you can. It allows you just
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: to get away with a few more things, even in
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: a large field since not many people are going that way.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Absolutely love everything you said. I'll add on one thing
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: You can play Jaden Daniels, so you can play a
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: chalkier since the defense Jade and Daniels can make a
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: lot of mistakes running backwards with his legs taking sacks.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: He can also still get there on the ground like
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: he showed week one without playing the best game twenty
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: eight DK points. So Bengals will get ownership again. Defense.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: It's someone said doesn't matter for two games. No, but
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: it matters when some defense puts up fifteen points and
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: everyone else has five, you unfortunately need them.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: So not a position I'm.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Axing anyone make a story about why you're playing the defense.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: I like Jake's lois owing against Ostra Hellen.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I like Cincy even when I'm playing Daniels, because they
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: can both get there that way.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: But you cover it really well.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still spread it out a defense on these slaves,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: just like I do on a main slate, Like if
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: you know you get twenty five percent of each one
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: roughly in the way that sets up. But I am
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: looking at certain angles of little things like Commanders versus Chase.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: That's a great way to end your lineup when you're
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: already you know you're not. I'm not necessarily putting like
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: five Bengals versus that commanders d and hoping that that
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: works out as much as if it's Chase one other
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Moss Chase and the Commander's d I'm fine with that
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: right if you if you're building on a lineup, if
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: that works out for you, hoop anything to add on
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: defense as we round out our one here on the show.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anything is good at defense. Like throw all the
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: rules out out the window. You don't need to worry about,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: you know, defense, quarterback defense versus your stack. It's all
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: you got to be thinking. One play here, and like
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: the Daniels examples is totally fine. He can still go
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: out there and get twenty Fantasy points and throw a
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: pick six. So it's like that's that's how you have
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: to kind of think about it. It doesn't matter. Yes,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: when you build teams, it's going to be the Bengals
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: and the Bills that show up in the defense at
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: a very high rate because they're not even that much
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: more expensive than the other two defenses. So if you don't,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: if you go into any optimizer and don't manually adjust it,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: you're going to probably be loaded up on Bill. And
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I did a dry run and I'll tell you what
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I got. You're gonna end up with a lot of
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Bills and Bengals. You got Bengals, Fifer, you got the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Bills thirty five percent. I got the Jaguars at nine
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: percent of my teams, and then the Commander's at eight.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: And that's definitely what's going to happen at defense if
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: you don't go in there and manually change it. For
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: me personally, I will be manually changing it because I
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: want adequate exposure. I think to all these defenses, I
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: think they all can make the case for all of them.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Let me just run through, because I just did this
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: real quick, I'll run through what else I got in
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: this dry run. Didn't change anything. Used are actions fifty
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: five percent. Joe Burrow and that fifteen hundred dollars gap
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: that we kind of talked about in the opening does
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: show up to definitely play a role. If you don't
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: change anything, then Jayden Daniels twenty seven percent, Josh Allen
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: eighteen No, Trevor Lawrence at all. Just going off the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: projections and again I don't we're showing six. I think
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be probably a little closer to ten on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: these two games. Slates every quarterback it's a little little
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: more exposure than that, So I think it is probably
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: more like a ten number for Trevor Lawrence. But if
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: you like them easy to get way overweight. We talked
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: about it at the running back position. So I guess
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: one thing that's interesting because we liked the Washington guys,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: didn't get a bunch, didn't get much of them at
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: all on this dry run. It's one hundred percent James Cook,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: it was ninety five percent Zach Moss, and then sixty
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: percent Etn six percent Brian Robinson and no Austin Eckler
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: at all. So that's also very interesting talking point wide receiver,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: like we talked about, it's gonna be Jamar Chase. He's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: in one hundred percent of lineups, then Terry McLaurin eighty percent,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: so like he probably has a chance to have high
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: ownership on the slate. That's gonna be a big thing
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: for me. T Higgins fifty and then Brian Thomas Junior
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: forty six percent, gave Davis thirty one, Christian Kirk fifteen,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: Shakir fifteen, then everything else just little sprinkles of them,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: not much, nothing significant. So all those Buffalo guys look
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: to be going completely overlooked.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say to that one, the defense
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: is for sure a thing. Make sure you're setting that rule.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: That's all we're trying to say. Whether you believe they
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: matter or not. Like titles said, they do matter when
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: they score the points, but when you're setting it up,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: make sure your rules aren't set to block you from
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: what could be on the winner. We see it all
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: the time on short slates where it is the defense
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: versus the flex or the quarterback. So just make sure
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: you're not setting against that stuff. And then the other
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: thing too. The more I think about it and again,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: and not just trying to fade all the chalky wide receivers,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: but I'm saying, we get why Jamar Chase is showing
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: up one hundred percent, and I get why I'll probably
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: play like seventy five percent because I want to have
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: outs to the top of It's not him, and I'm
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: good with that, but looking for uniques all that type
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: of stuff. But the Brian Thomas Junior thing is definitely
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: getting steamed up further and further. And he has been
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: the best. When we talked earlier, like Terry McLaurin, and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I was saying, like I just don't see how he
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden shows up a guy that it
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me that shows up would be Christian Kirk.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: He's squeezed in the middle. We almost saw it yesterday.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: I know it didn't pan out, but the Lockett when
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: everyone's on DK or JSN but forgets that Lockett is back.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: We see it with other teams where it's like there's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: this guy and this guy that people love, but it's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: the one in the middle. So yesterday digs over Collins
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: and Dell like everyone's got to figure it out. Gabe Davis,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Revenge or Brian Thomas is the best. Christian Kirk Last
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: year we were playing them all the time and oh
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: he's paying off his contract there, you know he made
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: that contract. Now he's playing good. He just hasn't played
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: good yet. It's three games two games in, so little
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: things like that is what I'm looking for when I'm
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: running these rules on the optimizer and popping it up.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: You know, Kyle's talking with the rules. We have a
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: ton of tutorials over on the site, so if you're
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: a member, go under Shipdeviser. It's tutorials. There's videos that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: are mini ones right on that and then on top
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: of it, we have a full overview on the on
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: the top dog thing that you can do. So this
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: is a good question. Two For more guy, Trevor Bryant said,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I'm getting lineups with like five k left over. I'm
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: fine with forty five grand. Like, that's fine today, it's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: five grand. It's not gonna matter in the end of it.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: You know you will when we get the the puzzle
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: flips over and we see what the actual result looks like,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: or the optimal or something possibly. But for me, I'm
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: definitely fine with getting lineups forty five forty six k today,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: no problem.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: One hundred percent. One point to add for me.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Talking defense, it's fan duel Bengals defense thirty one hundred
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: the highest projected defense massive blunder. What are your thoughts
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: if you played, because I might seeing this makes you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: even want to play more teams? Twenty teams just full
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: axing the Bengals, just hope three the other three teams.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: I know it's not something usually do tamble too much,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: but yeah, that's a way to totally get different at
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: a very high variant. The next Jaggs and Commanders thirty
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: eight hundred so you have to pay seven hundred more,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: fifteen hundred more to get the bills. Salary already doesn't
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: really matter on FanDuel anyways. So something I'm looking at,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna play a little on fandel today
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: and I might just X.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's the only sure.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only reason I would not do that is
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: just because man like, if it is a defense ends
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: up being the reason that like you don't make something,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: it would just it would just be so so painful.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: So I always just make sure to at least get
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: it like a little bit of each just because I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: don't want my night to be dependent on what I'm saying.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: Might if I played like ten teams, I'm not playing
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: one hundred.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Fis okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I go yeah. If
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: you're doing ten or something, yeah ten or twentyth just.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: Know I'm fine getting zero back.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Like if you're out there and like that's not the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: right way to play, It's just I'm playing way one DK.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: Let me just make a big stand on fan duel. Yeah,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: at a position like this, I do.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Want to add on to that though, because it goes
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: with what a lot of people watching this are doing.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: And we'll keep the show going. Anytime there's good content
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: we're putting out and people are liking it, make sure
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: you hit the like button for us. It helps us out.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: But I would say, like, that's the whole point. If
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: you're playing twenty line of night. Many people are playing
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: twenty or less. It's you can make stands. That's the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: whole point. Play lighter, play tighter. If you I would
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: not be exing out Jamar Chase because I just think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: he's that good and you gotta fill the spots, and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: you can put him in at least four spots that
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: he could fit into. But if you want to x
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: out Terry McLaurin the Bengals d and Brian Thomas Junior
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: and just say I'm taking the next two most popular
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: receivers and the most popular d out and just dealing
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: with it. Whatever I get, I get. If those guys
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: break me, they break me. Remember if it's not them,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: and it's very possible it's not, you get a you know,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Noah Brown gets a touchdown, Christian Kirk has a big
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: night gave David. You're gonna have more chances at that.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: On top of moving off more Land Mines to Hoop's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: point to what I was saying is if we were
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: talking like one hundred and fifty, I'll just take a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: severe underweight stance. And that's pretty much what I'm doing
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: on the main for DraftKings. Even I might have thirty
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: percent of the Jags D on this slate because I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: actually want to get more of them. I know I'm
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: double leveraging. Nobody's really on the Jags D, and it's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: because they're all over the Bills. I can literally play
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: them in Josh Allen lineup, So to me, I'm good
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: with that stuff. But that's how I'm looking at it
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: on a large pool of lineups, but on a limited count,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: I would definitely take those stands.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Hoop. Yeah, I just did a dry run over on
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: FanDuel too, and just wrote back in the DK thing.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: When I did the dry run on DK at tight end,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: it was the cheap tight ends. They wanted the cheap
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: tight ends in there. King Kate, I think was like
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: twenty four ish percent, but it was just seki and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: strange at the top, so I thought that was somewhat interesting. Yeah,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: the drive run for FanDuel, it's seventy percent Bengals defense.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: If you just go in there, run it, don't change anything.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: They're coming in at seventy bills at twenty five, so yeah,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: it's a good talking point. Joe Burrow again shows up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: as the top quarterback sixty one percent, Josh Allen twenty five,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels thirteen percent. Running backs the same thing. It's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Cook Etn Robinson soaking up all the owners at one
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: hundred percent. Cook eighty eight percent, Moss eighty five percent.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Etn Etn is actually a little bit cheaper over on
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Fandel at seventy three hundred, so a little bit of
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: a price break there between the two sites. Wide receiver
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: is the exact same thing over on Fandel, Jamar Chase
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent, Terry McLaurin sixty three, Higgins forty four,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: and then you get Shakir and then all three of
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars guys twenty five, twenty one, twenty percent, and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: then no one else is really getting ownership. Kin Kaid
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: shows up fifty percent over on FanDuel versus only like
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: twenty five percent on DK. Then you get Strange at
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: twenty eight, zach Ertz around twenty, and then you get
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: some sprinkles of Jiseki at six six percent.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this is gonna sound you know again,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Kenny plays very high stakes. He knows what he's doing
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: and I think he's onto something. But you gotta have
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: the balls, Like I know what you're gonna play in
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: the Thunderdome tonight. He's gonna be eighty percent owned in that,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: so you're I mean, it's a blocker at that point,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: but if you want to go against it, I would
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: get etn In on the other side. That's how I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: would handle it and just hammer it hope it works out,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: versus trying to do Ray Davis or doing something different
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: like that. I would definitely like Josh all.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: You'd have to play Josh Allen. Yeah, you'd have to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: play Josh Allen.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the other thing too is you know
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: that they were making fun of Trevor talking about this.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Someone said, you know, Trevor's drunk. Oh. I mean, I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: guest they're just making fun in the chat. But there
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: will be very very good DFS players tonight that cap
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: at forty nine thousand. There'll be very good DFS players
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: that cap at forty eight five. Like you can literally
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: just do that as a way to get automatically unique,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: and then you can play the projections, you can play
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: the correlations you want. You can do anything you want
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: at that point since you're already gonna be covered. So
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: for me, I just would say, you know, I think
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of people out there just building the toilet
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: are listening to this at work, pressing pause and put
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: in a few plays that we say, and they they
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: get something, but they do what Hoop said earlier. They go, oh, well,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: now I can upgrade this guy. Now I can upgrade
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: this on a two game slate. It's not an upgrade.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: It's just they cost more because there has to be
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: a salary on them. It doesn't mean they score more.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: It was fifty to nine point eight forty nine point
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: eight to nine point eight for Juwan Jennings versus the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: guy that just held out and got paid a massive
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: contract in Brandon Nyuk and he outscored him by forty
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: two games. Now you can do anything you want. So
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: there is no upgrade or better on paper until or
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: on the results, until we find out what they are.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: So that's the key. It's just on paper, it's fake.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all uncomfortable with your lineups a little uncomfortability
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe I got to start building my teams on the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: toilet chase around.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: No, No, we're early in the season, my friends, we're early,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, maybe he was talking about
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: his typos. Actually, now that's so funny, but it came
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: to a good talking point for the people, so I'm
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: good with that. I did a dry run. Let's move on,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: let's go to a showdown. We're now we're ten minutes in.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to just hammer this out, but
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: we want to cover it. And I did a dry
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: run hoop on the showdown game, which is Commander's Bengals.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: And right now we're getting at the captain Joe Burrow again,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: like our projection on him is just popping him no
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: matter what. So it's him, it's Jade and Daniels. It's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: quarterback night at Captain over here on this slate, Jamar Chase,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Zack Moss. And then it gets into like the cheapies,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: but it's not really gonna be high, So it's really Burrow, Daniels,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Chase and Zack Moss are what we're seeing the most
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: of at captain. We'll start at the captain slot.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard to get excited about a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: lot on the Washington side. I mean, you have Jaden Daniels, obviously,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: we liked Brian Robinson, we liked Austin Eckler, But man,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: can you really make the case for them and captain?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: I suppose you can. For me personally, I'm gonna like
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  Speaker 3: just more of the Cincinnati stuff. Quarterbacks so tough, like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: they not running quarterbacks are tough. Man. We've seen so
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: frequently this season where they just don't do enough. You
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  Speaker 3: had the good call the last Light with Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 3: that worked out well there, But I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be far and few between where we see these non
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  Speaker 3: running quarterbacks be the guy. I mean, passing touchdowns are
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  Speaker 3: way way down this year versus previous season, so that's
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  Speaker 3: one point of hesitation. And if it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a Burrow that's the most popular in the captain spot,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm fine, you know going Chase Moss Higgins. I
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  Speaker 3: just don't think I want to get too crazy on
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  Speaker 3: the slate in the captain like you know, Jayden Daniels,
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  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. I'm assuming Higgins probably get squeezed a little
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: bit in the Captain people I just don't think i'd
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: be super excited to play him. McLaurin is just a
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: clear fade for me in the Captain. I won't be
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: doing that. You know, maybe some Brian Robinson Junior. As
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  Speaker 3: much as I like Eckler, I just think there's a
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  Speaker 3: true cap. As much I like him on the Two Games,
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  Speaker 3: I just think there's a cap to him in terms
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  Speaker 3: of what production you can have because he's not on
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: the field A ton sold probably be like Brian Robinson Junior,
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  Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels, Burrow, Chase Moss kind of what I'd be
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  Speaker 3: looking at. Stick to those five or six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, actually, title he makes a good point
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  Speaker 2: like that is the one thing. As good as it
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  Speaker 2: is to help out the Two Games slate, it makes
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  Speaker 2: the Showdown slate a little bit more tricky because you
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  Speaker 2: don't feel very comfortable with Robinson or Eckler because if
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: they eat each other's lunch or if it goes a
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  Speaker 2: different route. I guess the only thing I could say
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  Speaker 2: is a game back to kind of my defense point earlier,
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  Speaker 2: I'll flip it now to Captain and Showdown is I'll
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  Speaker 2: probably just take an underweight stance to Burrow because it's
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  Speaker 2: just your net. Then I'll naturally get more Chase, I'll
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  Speaker 2: naturally get some Higgins. If my guy Yoshi Vas pops
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: up in there again, I just got a thing with
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  Speaker 2: him today. I think I could put him up top
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: and then the other side. It's you know, Jayden Daniels
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  Speaker 2: is a running quarterback that we talked about. It's whether
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  Speaker 2: or not he runs into a wall and gets his
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: head knocked off, I don't know, but we can play
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  Speaker 2: him up top for sure. So it's just it's tough
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  Speaker 2: to get outside of those main guys there. What's your
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: thoughts at the captain position for this one?
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  Speaker 5: Thinking, yeah, the exact same as you guys.
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  Speaker 4: It really does, like Luke McCaffrey and Noah Brown, like,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: we're talking some of these for two games, but the
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  Speaker 4: two games slate is almost double the size is the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: showdown forty seven thousand people if I looked correctly, remember
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: correctly in this Bengals Washington game, eighty eight thousand on that.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: So it's not most of these show on slates we
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: talked about so far, one hundred k people. The two
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  Speaker 4: hundred k people, I think you don't have to get
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  Speaker 4: as as crazy now in stuff like this, and for me,
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  Speaker 4: Captain's easy. Jaden Daniels by far my favorite, always rushing upside,
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  Speaker 4: whether they lose by twenty one or win by twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: He has outs to get there, and I really don't
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  Speaker 4: like anyone else on that side much.
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  Speaker 5: And then I'm going to go Chase Higgins.
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  Speaker 4: Higgins has by the lowest own least what I'm expecting
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  Speaker 4: at Captain that I'm going to be most overweight on,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: just hoping he's fully good to go. We know t
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  Speaker 4: Higgins has all the upside in the world that way,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: So Daniel's my favorite. Then I like Chase Higgins, Moss Burrow,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: and after that pretty much nothing.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: I do like Yoshibas as well, so maybe I should
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: get a little captain, but I.
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  Speaker 5: Like him more in the two games.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Burrow's on main slates. I think it's six of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: the last seventy slates or something that he's been the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: winning quarterback and millionmaker winners. But again it's just an
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: added note. So just looking at here, I was trying
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: to see if I had anything else different to add on,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: But man, it's like Burrow could get up there. I
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'll have to wait and see, but Burrow
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: chase Daniel's Moss and then it gets pretty tight after that. Man,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: I just don't think I'm gonna have very much of
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: other captains. Like I might even scale back on my
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Yoshi Boss and just use him on the two gamer
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: to separate there. I don't know, like if I like him,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: if I like him there, though I should like him
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: here because now we're down to just one game. But
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: it's like also the setup of how everybody's going on
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: that one, like how you're overstacking. I think I'll just
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: end up with more of them there. So for me,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: I'll decide we'll have it up. The slate penalll be
• 1:14:32
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  Speaker 2: anything else you want to add. For the showdown slate,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have full coverage over on the site.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, full coverage for sure. I'm just way, way,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: way more excited for the two games late. I love
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: those two games slates, So my main I'm gonna have
• 1:14:46
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• 1:14:49
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  Speaker 4: Of here, No, the last thing quick on showdown, it
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: looks like for the cheapies, it's gonna be cheap tight ends.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Eric All, Like the third string Cinti tight end, got
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  Speaker 4: some snaps and you got these mid price two hundred.
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  Speaker 4: You got Drew Sample one point six k, the second
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• 1:16:30
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  Speaker 4: So there is enough value on the slate below three
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