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Pediatrician molests dozens of young patients; Teen kills himself after his teacher sexually abuses him · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I remember going in the
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  Speaker 1: back with him. Investigators say Bartow waited for his patient's
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  Speaker 1: guardians to leave the exam room. More victims have come
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  Speaker 1: forward to allege that he sexually abused them twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: This predator should have been stopped. Victims came forward, but
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  Speaker 1: no one would listen, No one would believe. If they
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  Speaker 1: would have did their jobs properly like they're supposed to do,
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  Speaker 1: it could have stopped. But no, they chose to give
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  Speaker 1: a psycho back his ability to touch other children in
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  Speaker 1: which he did. Wow, we're talking about a Pennsylvania pediatrician,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Johnny Bartow of Johnstown. Dozens and dozens victims coming forward.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me right now, doctor Wendy Dickinson, Psychologists, founder of
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  Speaker 1: Grow Counseling, Stephen Lampley, a detective extraordinaire, und family and
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  Speaker 1: divorce lawyer, Kathleen Murphy and joining me right now. Crime
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  Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter and author of Beautiful Life,
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  Speaker 1: The CSI behind the Casey Anthony trial. Robin Welansky. Robin,
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  Speaker 1: who is this guy? This is a male pediatrician for many,
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  Speaker 1: many years, for decades, worked as part of a practice
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  Speaker 1: at Laurel Pediatric associates with other doctors and parents in
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  Speaker 1: the area, would take their babies and their toddlers and
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  Speaker 1: their teens for all kinds of treatments your kids, your
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  Speaker 1: kid has a cold, the whole gamut, and he would
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  Speaker 1: treat them. But clearly there was something very wrong going
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  Speaker 1: on in the background with this guy for decades. You
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  Speaker 1: know when you say clearly there was something going on
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  Speaker 1: with this guy for decades, what do you mean by that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there were allegations, Nancy, that the kids, some of them,
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  Speaker 1: would go to their moms and dad and say the
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  Speaker 1: doctor touched them. Take a listen to our friend at WTAJ,
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  Speaker 1: this is Lindsay Kennett. Investigators say Barto waited for his
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  Speaker 1: patient's guardians to leave the exam room or would use
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  Speaker 1: his body to hide the alleged assaults. Bartow's medical license
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  Speaker 1: was revoked in January. Attorney General Joshapiro said this investigation
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  Speaker 1: is ongoing and thanked the victims for their courage coming
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  Speaker 1: forwarding it takes victims oftentimes a long time to come
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  Speaker 1: to grips with what happened, for them to have confidence
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  Speaker 1: that people will believe their truth and to come forward
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  Speaker 1: and share what happened. That's very normal and that's not
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  Speaker 1: something that victims should ever be criticized about. No one
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  Speaker 1: should fear coming forward share that information with us. Have
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  Speaker 1: you noticed to doctor Wendy Dickinson, a psychologist, founder of
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  Speaker 1: Grow Counseling, that the victims are now adult and they're
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  Speaker 1: finally being heard for the first time. For those of
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  Speaker 1: you listening, if any one of you have been a
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  Speaker 1: victim of doctor Johnny Bartow Basin, brother Aarto, or you
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  Speaker 1: know someone that has been his victim, please call four
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  Speaker 1: one two, five, six, five, seven to six eight zero
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  Speaker 1: repeat four one, two, five, six, five, seven six eight
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  Speaker 1: zero Doctor Wendy. What does that do to a person
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  Speaker 1: to be molested by someone? Your parents take you in,
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  Speaker 1: do you deliver you to the molester? Then they don't
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  Speaker 1: believe you when you try to explain what happens. It
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  Speaker 1: absolutely messens with children's development because it's outside the scope
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  Speaker 1: of normal development. We ought to be able to trust
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  Speaker 1: our caregivers, We ought to be able to be believed
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  Speaker 1: by our caregivers, and we shouldn't have things introduced into
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  Speaker 1: our world, sexual experiences, things that are beyond our developmental
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  Speaker 1: level and so it really affects children's ability to develop,
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  Speaker 1: and which continues to affect their ability to develop as adults.
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  Speaker 1: And then when they look back as an adult with
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  Speaker 1: a fully developed brain, they see things differently. They start
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  Speaker 1: to understand what really happened. And it can actually be
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  Speaker 1: ongoing levels of trauma, a trauma to experience as a
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  Speaker 1: child and then a traumatic experience as an adult recognizing
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  Speaker 1: what happened to them as a child. I earlier asked
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  Speaker 1: who is Johnny Bartow? This is what I have learned.
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  Speaker 1: This guy, doctor Johnny Bartow of Johnstown, spent decades abusing
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  Speaker 1: children in the exam room there at his pediatric practice,
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  Speaker 1: which was in western Pennsylvania. He also abused children at
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  Speaker 1: local hospitals he opted. He chose to become a pediatrician
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  Speaker 1: so he would always have a supply of children to molest.
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  Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, some of the molestations actually occurred while the
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  Speaker 1: parents were in the room. I'm speechless, Nancy. You asked
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  Speaker 1: who he was. This guy was such a groomer that
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  Speaker 1: the people in the community said he groomed our whole community.
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  Speaker 1: He held himself out as a very specific good man,
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  Speaker 1: and when his charges first came out in ninety eight.
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  Speaker 1: They held rallies for this guy. He was so effective
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  Speaker 1: at convincing these parents that he was a good man.
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  Speaker 1: Who were his typical victims? Robin Wilensky, Right, Nancy. The
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  Speaker 1: people that he was molesting were little girls as young
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  Speaker 1: as a two week old. I mean, how disgusting is that?
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  Speaker 1: And these women, you know, you think about it as
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  Speaker 1: a young girl. You have to turn the clock back
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  Speaker 1: to when your mom would take you or dad take
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  Speaker 1: you to the pediatrician. I can remember my pediatrician, and
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  Speaker 1: you go there and this is the doctor. This is
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  Speaker 1: the guy with the name on the door in possibly
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  Speaker 1: wearing a white lab coat, looking all official, and you
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  Speaker 1: there's a trust factor that this is the guy that's
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  Speaker 1: going to cure you of your sore throat when you're
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  Speaker 1: a little five or six year old girl or younger,
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  Speaker 1: and then this person is inappropriately touching you. I can't
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  Speaker 1: think of anything worse. So bottom line is typical victims
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  Speaker 1: were pre pubescent girls, one infant, some boys. That is correct.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to what the Knees reporter at WPXI,
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  Speaker 1: Gordon Les discovers the Attorney General is actually afraid there
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  Speaker 1: are so many victims, they're setting up a hotline. The
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General, Josh Aper is setting up a hotline tonight
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  Speaker 1: in order to find out if there are any other
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  Speaker 1: victims of this pediatrician from Johnstown. Doctor Johnny Bartow, was
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  Speaker 1: first charged with abusing a twelve year old patient in
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  Speaker 1: his office after those allegations of Astigators say a second
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  Speaker 1: person came forward, a girl who was fourteen at the time,
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  Speaker 1: since doctor Bartow abused her at a gathering in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two. Bardo was first charged in January after
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  Speaker 1: accusations from a patient of Laurel Pediatrics Associates in Richland Township.
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  Speaker 1: Police say Bartow did not deny the claims, but he
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  Speaker 1: did enter a not guiltieply in court, and now the
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General fears there are more victims. He tweeted, quote
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  Speaker 1: these charges are deeply disturbing for anyone else out there
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  Speaker 1: who's been attacked or abused, we will protect you and
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  Speaker 1: we will hold this predator accountable for his crimes. Bartow's
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  Speaker 1: medical license has been suspended. He's being held now in
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  Speaker 1: the Cambria County Prison. Well, here's the twist to that.
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  Speaker 1: To Stephen Lampley, renowned detective. That was not the first
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  Speaker 1: time these charges come up. All the way back in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand, doctor Johnny Bartow appeared before the Pennsylvania Board
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  Speaker 1: of Medicine on administrative charges, not criminal charges, that he
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  Speaker 1: molested two young girls in the nineties. But that Board
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  Speaker 1: of Medicine threw out the case let him keep practicing medicine,
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  Speaker 1: saying the allegations were incongruous to his reputation. Do you
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  Speaker 1: hear me, Stephen? Two thousand, that is nineteen years ago
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  Speaker 1: he came up before the medical board about molesting children,
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  Speaker 1: and they threw it out, saying, well, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't fit with his reputation. We believe his reputation
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  Speaker 1: over the two little girls. I mean, that should have
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  Speaker 1: raised everyone's attention right there. You're correct, Nancy should have,
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  Speaker 1: and it actually did. It was the beginning in the
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  Speaker 1: stages of being prosecuted, as I under understand, until until
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  Speaker 1: the prosecuting attorney and the administrative judge that was providing
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  Speaker 1: over the case originally were caught together at a very
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  Speaker 1: menlow confissert and had their picture made. That's when the
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  Speaker 1: case when got transferred over to the medical world for
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  Speaker 1: their review and then they decided that there was there
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  Speaker 1: was not enough evidence that he was not his reputation
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  Speaker 1: or his background. But you know, Mancy, you and I
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  Speaker 1: both know it starts somewhere Robert Wilinsky. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: that the prosecutor and the alj administrative law judge that
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  Speaker 1: said there wasn't enough evidence they were at a very
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  Speaker 1: menlow concert together. Yeah. How cozy is that? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this guy had a lot of tentacles into the community,
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  Speaker 1: and in addition to being cozy at the concert, he
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  Speaker 1: knew all these other people in the town that came
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  Speaker 1: out and did all these rallies and part of him.
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  Speaker 1: So he had a lot of tentacles in the community
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  Speaker 1: and people we're supporting him and covering I'm here outside
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  Speaker 1: the Richland Township Police Department where Attorney General Josh Shapiro
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  Speaker 1: announced nearly seventy charges against Barto, accusing him of sexually
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  Speaker 1: abusing twenty nine more victims. Monday morning, investigators filed additional
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  Speaker 1: charges of sexual abuse against former pediatrician Johnny Jack Barto.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators say the seventy year old sexually assaulted patients at
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  Speaker 1: Laurel Pediatric Associates and Coonama Hospital. The alleged abuse dates
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  Speaker 1: back to the late nineteen eighties, and the victims include
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  Speaker 1: boys and girls of all ages, even a two week
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  Speaker 1: old baby girl. Barto is accused of inappropriately touching the
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  Speaker 1: victim's breasts and genitals. Doctor Barto used his power and
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  Speaker 1: position of authority as their pediatrician to abuse them in
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  Speaker 1: those instances to feed his own sick desire. After the
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  Speaker 1: administrative board the Board of Medicine cleared him, he apparently
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  Speaker 1: felt invincible. He felt that he could do anything, and
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  Speaker 1: he continued molesting dozens of children. In fact, the whole
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  Speaker 1: community believed him. He became an elected school board member
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  Speaker 1: after the allegation. Hundreds of supporters flatly disbelieved he could
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  Speaker 1: be a pedophile, even though multiple children kept telling the
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  Speaker 1: same story. There was so much community support. There was
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  Speaker 1: one instance where ribbons were distributed at a high school
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  Speaker 1: football game when he fought the allegations back in the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think it made those two little girls
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  Speaker 1: feel where everybody in the football stadium is wearing a
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  Speaker 1: ribbon to support the man that molested you. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: what happened to those two girls, But I could tell
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  Speaker 1: you what's going to happen to doctor Johnny Bartow. Central
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  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania pediatrician is now facing dozens of child molestation charges
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  Speaker 1: after police say more victims have come forward to allege
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  Speaker 1: that he sexually abused them. Today, the Attorney General's Office
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  Speaker 1: filed sixty nine new counts against Johntown physician Johnny Bartow.
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  Speaker 1: Charging documents alleged that Bartow fond old girls and boys,
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  Speaker 1: often under the guise of treatment, and in some cases
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  Speaker 1: drawing heated complaints from their parents. We are standing here
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  Speaker 1: together in Richmond Township to hold doctor Bartow accountable, to
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  Speaker 1: say that we hear the victims truth, and that this
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  Speaker 1: person will never see the light of day again. The
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  Speaker 1: seventy year old is accused of indecent assault, child endangerment,
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  Speaker 1: an account of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse. As Bartow sat
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  Speaker 1: listening in court, victims described, one after the next, in
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  Speaker 1: minute detail, what happened, what he was wearing, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: a striped purple shirt, what the room looked like, burgundy
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  Speaker 1: carpeting on the walls, orange chairs, a teal, still what
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  Speaker 1: he did to them and how it made them feel.
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  Speaker 1: One victim says she can still feel Bartow's cold hands
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  Speaker 1: on her and can still hear that examination table paper
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  Speaker 1: crinkling underneath her body, and that the sounds doctor Barto
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  Speaker 1: made during the molestation will haunt her, she says until
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  Speaker 1: the day she dies. Another victim says, because of what
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  Speaker 1: Barto did to her, she rarely will see a doctor,
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  Speaker 1: and she's terrified of taking her children to a doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Another victim says she showers in the dark because she
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  Speaker 1: is ashamed. They describe lifelong struggles of being depressed, anxious,
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  Speaker 1: panic attacks, distrust. They say, quote, I've lived my life
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  Speaker 1: in pain, hopelessness, and despair. They're now adults, doctor Wendy Dickinson,
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  Speaker 1: and they're still played and tormented by what this doctor did. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: the effects of trauma can continue well throughout our lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are significantly disruptive activities in a child's life,
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  Speaker 1: and it changes the course in trajectory of how they
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  Speaker 1: see the world, how they see themselves, what they internalize
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  Speaker 1: about themselves. Trauma trauma is significant and the effects are
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  Speaker 1: life changing. You know. To Kathleen Murphy, who was a
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina expert in family law, the wife Bartow's wife says, quote,
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  Speaker 1: he's been lying to me about everything for all of
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  Speaker 1: the fifty two years I have known him. He spent
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  Speaker 1: his whole sinister life lying and sneaking around so he
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  Speaker 1: could carry on his abuse uninterrupted. And she sides with
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  Speaker 1: the victims. What Yeah, that's what the wife said. She
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  Speaker 1: had no idea. I'm still saying my fame response. What
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  Speaker 1: doctor Johnny Bartow's wife says. Quote, he has been lying
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  Speaker 1: to me about everything for all the fifty two years
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  Speaker 1: I've known him. He spent his whole sinister life, lying,
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  Speaker 1: sneaking around so he could carry on his abuse uninterrupted.
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  Speaker 1: Even his wife was shot and is siding with the victims?
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  Speaker 1: Is it true, Robin will Lensky that even after he's charged,
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  Speaker 1: people in the area would not accept the truth and
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  Speaker 1: even launched a Facebook group to support him. That is correct, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: there was a Facebook group supporting him. And let me
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  Speaker 1: say this about the wife. Okay, she was convinced by
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  Speaker 1: these other parents and the other victims, and she was
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  Speaker 1: in court as a prosecution witness testifying against her husband.
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  Speaker 1: She sided with the victims, not with him. Once she
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  Speaker 1: got wind of it, and once she was convinced that
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  Speaker 1: these women were telling the truth about this horrendous abuse
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  Speaker 1: and being touched in places where the doctor should not
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  Speaker 1: be touching you. The doctor Johnny Bartow will face seventy
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  Speaker 1: nine to one hundred and fifty eight years in prison,
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  Speaker 1: practically guaranteeing he will die behind bars. He pled no
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  Speaker 1: low to the accounts to the charges of attacks on
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  Speaker 1: non family members, which means he didn't deny them or
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  Speaker 1: admit them. Take a listen to WSFA twelve news reporter
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  Speaker 1: Mark Himnez who shows to becoming a doctor so he
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  Speaker 1: could have says to defenseless children. His assaults took place
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  Speaker 1: from the late nineteen eighties through the nineteen nines and
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  Speaker 1: the two thousands cans until January of two eighteen. And
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  Speaker 1: I especially want to say how I am to be
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  Speaker 1: standing here today with these brave survivors back here in
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  Speaker 1: this Cameri Accounting courthouse to discuss the sensing of courts
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  Speaker 1: of doctor Johnny Barton, a sexually violet predator who has
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  Speaker 1: now an held account for his abuse a third month
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  Speaker 1: child victims. Doctor Barton used his position of authority as
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  Speaker 1: a pediatrician, the family doctor of Roman to treat and
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  Speaker 1: heal their children to feed his own sick desires. Twenty
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  Speaker 1: years ago. This predator should have been stopped. Victims came forward,
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  Speaker 1: but no one would listen, no one would believe. I
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  Speaker 1: am relieved that he is behind bars and unable to
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  Speaker 1: harm any more children. We've seen that here in the
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  Speaker 1: Catholic Church. You see it in Hollywood, you see it
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  Speaker 1: in politics, and we saw it here in this community
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  Speaker 1: with a pediatrician for too long. At age thirteen, I
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  Speaker 1: was sexually abused by doctor Bartow. At age sixteen, I
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  Speaker 1: witnessed the entire community surround him with support and rally
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  Speaker 1: for him when he was first publicly accused. He of course,
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  Speaker 1: will remain behind bars for the rest of his life,
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  Speaker 1: exactly where he should be. Crime stories with Nancy Grace
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  Speaker 1: Neil Whittaker, an elementary school teacher at the Wells Elementary School,
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  Speaker 1: was arrested on multiple accounts of sexual conduct with students
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  Speaker 1: to this point. As a result of the investigation, we
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  Speaker 1: found two students that have been involved. If we think
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  Speaker 1: that they're possibly more so. But she was arrested on
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  Speaker 1: eight counts sexual conduct between certain employees of schools and pupils.
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  Speaker 1: Her bail is one hundred and sixty thousand dollars. She's
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  Speaker 1: last I checked she was currently in custody here. So
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  Speaker 1: we would ask anybody that has any further information, any
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  Speaker 1: other possible victims, or anybody has any information to contact
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  Speaker 1: our detective division. You are hearing our friends there in
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  Speaker 1: the Elkin County Sheriff sets under Sheriff run Sup. This
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  Speaker 1: is what we know. Allegations that a quote humiliated boy
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  Speaker 1: took his own life committed suicide after being molested by
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  Speaker 1: a so called sex crazed female teacher who allegedly had
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  Speaker 1: sex for years with four miners. Joining me right now,
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  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter in Nicole Parton Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just beside myself that this little boy, Corbyn Madison,
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  Speaker 1: one of those four pupils abused by teacher to Neil Whittaker,
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  Speaker 1: was found dead in a truck one year after the
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  Speaker 1: married Nevada teacher sex activities with her students came to light.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy a very sad situation. Corbyn met his teacher, Miss Madison,
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  Speaker 1: when he was just in the fourth grade and now
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  Speaker 1: years later a senior in high school. He leaves town
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  Speaker 1: just after graduation and then he is found with a
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  Speaker 1: self inflicted gunshot wound to the head after the humiliation
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  Speaker 1: and depression of this ongoing sexual relationship with his teacher.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I noticed that all the press is calling
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  Speaker 1: a sex relationship its molestation. In is molestation a teacher
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  Speaker 1: with a student, and not just one, but four. We
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  Speaker 1: know that this teacher, and we're learning a lot from
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit claiming this boy killed himself because of depression
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  Speaker 1: and embarrassment that was triggered after he was involved with
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  Speaker 1: molestation with his teacher. A mother of two four counts
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  Speaker 1: of sex contact between a school employee and a pupil,
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  Speaker 1: how often does this happen? She would set up quote
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  Speaker 1: private reading areas in her classroom that cannot be seen
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  Speaker 1: from the hallway or outside windows, having sex with four boys,
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  Speaker 1: all miners, assigning them jobs as aids. Then she would
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  Speaker 1: have sex with the students during non teaching hours as well,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody found out a lot of times, Karen start,
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  Speaker 1: we hear people laughing and joking when the sex victim
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  Speaker 1: is actually a boy. Way in it's in some ways
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  Speaker 1: it's worse for a boy because they like it's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be the other way around. You know, they're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be in charge, and here's somebody a teacher who
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  Speaker 1: has humiliated him, made him ashamed, and it makes him
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  Speaker 1: feel less than a man. It's very hard for him
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  Speaker 1: to live with, and he blames himself. That's what happens
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  Speaker 1: in these sex crimes all the time, with this abuse, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: is that they wind up blaming themselves. They don't understand
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  Speaker 1: that they were underage and could do nothing to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: So let me understand what it takes for a young
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  Speaker 1: boy to finally commit suicide. Karen Stark, all alone in
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  Speaker 1: his truck. He can't get over the experience. It gets
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  Speaker 1: lodged in his brain. You have the neurons in your
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  Speaker 1: brain which can't let go of it, and you keep
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  Speaker 1: reliving it. It's like PTSD, Nancy, and so those images
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  Speaker 1: keep coming back. Eventually he can't stand to live with
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  Speaker 1: the humiliation and shame and the images in his head.
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  Speaker 1: And you could see where that would drive somebody to
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  Speaker 1: kill themselves. Jes Wilcot, judge, lawyer at Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you deal with Jeveniles all day every day. What do
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you make of it? Oh, this is so horrific. So
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: first of all, it's not just molestation, it's flat child abuse.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And she groomed these boys, and to make it worse
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: than acy, she had two children of her own. And
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: so what bothers me on so many different levels about
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: people who abuse children is they know what it's like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to perhaps have children and want to protect their children,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: yet they are grooming and abusing children. The saddest part
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of this story to me was that people knew about it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: There were people employed by the school who knew about it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: She'd been warned about it. Nothing was done, so whereas
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: one victim would be horrible, there were actually four victims
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: even more horrific. You know what I don't understand to you,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Daryl co informer prosecutor now defense attorney. You know, even
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: if you take hits to be boarded, a lot of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: those facilities have online streaming twenty four seven. Why not
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in school? It makes no sense to me. So many
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: schools do have videos, so many schools have cameras set
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: up everywhere, and yet it's pointed out that she put
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: this and did this in a very private area. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: let me say some one other thing this is it
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: is not unusual for a boy to absolutely fantasize about
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: his teacher. So that also puts another perspective on why
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: this young man committed suicide, what was going on in
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: his mind after she was found out and after he
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: was known to be the victim, And I got to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: wonder why he didn't get the right type of psychological
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: counseling that obviously you should have had after this woman
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: was made known. Oh, I can answer that, John, you
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: don't get the psychological help. He didn't get it because
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he was so ashamed. You'd have to be able to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: reveal and talk about what happened, and I have no
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: doubt that that was too difficult for him. Yeah, but
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. Once they know that he's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: been the victim of a crime, once they know he's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: been molested, once they know he's been abused, it is
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: absolutely incumbent upon either his parents, the school, or some
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: other element to make sure that he at least sees
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a psychologist, a psychiatrist, or an LCSW. It just makes
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: no sat yet, I agree. You know, to me, it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: sounds like you, Daryl Cohen, are trying to shift the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: blame to the parents in the school. Actually take a
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: listen to this. Speaking of the school first and foremost,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: student safeties our number one priority. This employee has been
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: placed on the ministrative league with pay penning a full investigation,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and we're fully cooperating with the Sheriff's office to facilitate
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the investigation. The Elko County School District takes us very
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: seriously and we have policies in place to prohibit this
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: type of conduct. As I stated earlier, the safety of
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: our student is our highest priority. We were notified back
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: in October of some allegations, and so that being said,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: we've actually completed three different investigations on this situation in
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Wells over the past you know, nine months. That being said,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: nobody was really willing to testify or give a statement
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that said, yes, this happened. We do so much to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: protect our kids and to help our kids, and unfortunately,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you know, somebody takes advantage of the system, and so
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I want you to know it's our number one priority.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Allegations that a quote humiliated boy took his own life
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: committed suicide after being molested by a so called sex
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: crazed female teacher who allegedly had sex for years with
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: four miners to Nicole Parton joining us. Nicole, I understand
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that the victims of the abuse are now suing the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: school system. What's that about? They are Madison's Corbyn Madison's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: family is suing the Elkll County School District for suppressing
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: or concealing or failing to disclose information about missus Whittaker
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: because they are claiming that the school system had been
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: warned on the multiple occasions for two years prior that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this abuse was taking place. They had family members, they
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: had coworkers, employees, parents of students who were warning the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: school district that these abusive situations were happening. Jo Scott,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: you have children about this age. Can you imagine if
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you found out this was happening at school and the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: school had actually been warned for two years. No, I'd
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: be fit to be Todd Nancy. And you know the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: thing about it is this child is it's over, he's gone,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: He's done. And what really sickens me about this is
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that you had mentioned just a few moments ago that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: she had two biological children. She knew what it was
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like to take care of kids, at least she would
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: think she did. And these four kids that she abused
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: over all this period of time, we've talked about grooming
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: this sort of thing, there were nothing more than objects
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to her. There were nothing more than objects that she
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: could just simply take use for her own pleasure and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: benefit and whatever, and then throw them away like garbage.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: And they're not garbage. They're children that people have loved
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and cared for. And I know for me, you know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I'd got and I'd hired Darryl Cohen and I would
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: suthe them for everything, every penny they're worth that county.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I don't care who I'd have to go after. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: would go after somebody. They would feel the pain. Man.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm taking a look at right now,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: at Corbyn Madison, who is in the picture. He's named
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: a senior prince, like at homecoming, and he's standing there
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: after a football game, just a really handsome young guy,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: beautiful smile, perfect straight teeth. And this teacher, this teacher,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Corbyn kills himself because depression and humiliation, embarrassment triggered after
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: being sex abused by his own teacher and the school
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: knew about it. They had been worn for years. Nicole
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Parton Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, how was this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: boy's body discovered? Shortly after graduation? He moved out of
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: town to get away from the abuse, to get away
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: from the memories, the humiliation. He moved out of town.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Shortly after graduation. A police report was filed because he
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was missing. Five days after he was missing, his body
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: was discovered in his truck with a self inflicted gunshot wound.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I've heard this said before, Karen Stark as
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: some people are just too sensitive for this world. Yes, Nancy,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and obviously this is the case with this boy. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: just think about it. I mean, it's it's so awful
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to have sexual be sexually abused, to begin with a
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: situation like this, and here he is, he's a homecoming king,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: he's gorgeous, beautiful boy who's filled with shame, humiliation, self blame.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just not acceptable. It's not acceptable, and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it makes us all sick that this kind of thing
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: could go on in the school and knew about it. Horrible,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it's horrible. Actually welcome. I'm just imagining the parents now,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know. I have such big dreams for the twins.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I envision them working through to get their Eagle Scout
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: loving high school. John David loves steams science, technology, engineering,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and math. Lucy loves playing the piano and writing they
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: love soccer, they love so many things. I imagine them
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: going to college one day and planning a wedding and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: having a wonderful life. Everything I could possibly do to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: help them have happiness in their lives. And I wonder
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: about this guy's parents, Corbyn's parents sitting at home looking
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out the window, wondering what went wrong? Their boy is gone.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I mean, Nancy again, it's it's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: devastating and it's something they're never ever going to recover from.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you what went wrong. A predator,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a child predator, groomed, abused their son, and people knew
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: about it and did nothing about it, and it led
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to his death. I have no doubt you know what
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: is insult to injury to Daryl Cohen. This lawsuit alleges
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the Wells High School principal, Chris mckennony, was warned six times,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: at least between two sixteen and two seventeen, six times
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that this teacher, to Neil Whitaker, was having unlawful sex
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: with boy students. He had been given warnings by school
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: district director, a custodial worker, a parent, and two teachers,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and did nothing. Well, my question is, did he do nothing,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: did he do some sort of investigation. Whatever he did,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: if anything, was obviously nothing compared to what he should
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: have done. Now I would like to know what type
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: of warnings they were given. What did the custodians say,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: what did the other people say. It doesn't bring back
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: this young man, but maybe it will stop this from
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: happening again somewhere else, at least in Arizona. We'll take
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a listen to the high school principal. We started getting
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: reports from people quite some time ago. A lot of
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: them were very reluctant to come forward for a variety
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of different reasons. So we did some unconventional investigation. We
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: did a lot of surveillance and some things like that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Was able to gather a lot of information, which then
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: led us to circle around and finally we got down
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: to the arrestrials. What I know is that he is
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: admitting right there people had come forward. What took so
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: long to Nicole Parton. What became of Tanil Whittaker's husband, Well,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: as you can imagine, devastation entered the home. Now we
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: have two beautiful children who've lost their mother. Of course,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: separation and divorce ensued as she was arrested on these charges.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Now I'm taking a picture right now looking at her husband.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Scott, can you imagine discovering your wife
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: has been cheating with students molesting them at school? No,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I can't. And there's so many of these cases that
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: are out there, Nancy, We're just awash with them. You know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think back all those years ago when I when
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: dinosaurs were on the earth and I was in high school.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: You know, there were hints of this that it had
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: gone on, but everybody thought it was just boys being
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: boys and talking like teenage boys do. But now, you know,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you look back at it retrospectively and you think, my god,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: was this going on back then. I'd have to think
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that it is. But for these families, it's absolutely devastating.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: What does this do to this familiar group because you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: now you have an abuse I know Karen can address this.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You have the primary abuse victim, you have the secondary,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and then you have the tertiary. These children, her biological children,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: are now secondary victims in all of this. And I'd
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: have to state that the husband is too. You know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: she had been teaching eleven years. How long had this
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: been going on. How many victims are there? This all
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: goes down at Wealth Combined School in Wealth, Nevada. It's
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a tiny town in the northeast corner of the state,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: which shows Joe Scott that, you know, people think that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: rural life is so idealic. This happens everywhere, Joe Scott. Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it does, Nancy, It does, just like all these other
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: horrific crimes that we talk about. I teach rural corners
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: all over the country, and you know, I tell them
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: when it comes to death investigation that you know, just
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: because you see it on the news and you think
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: it happens in Chicago, New York and all these other places,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it can't happen here, because I guarantee
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you it has. Evil is pervasive in our world, Nancy,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and it gets in everywhere, the nooks and the crannies.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: We have to be vigilant in cases like this because
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you've got so many, so many lives are just absolutely
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: wrecked and destroyed. To Daryl Cohen, criminal lawyer, former prosecutor,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and civil lawyer. This lawsuit says school officials intentionally ignored
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: multiple complaints regarding Whittaker that allowed Whittaker to continually sex harass, molesque,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: abused children for years, giving them gifts, giving them alcohol
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on and off school grounds, driving them to hotels. It
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: goes on and on, and it says the school had
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: actual knowledge, not just suspicions of her grooming and abusing
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: minor students. They got a lot of answering up to do.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think if all of these allegations, or many of
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the allegations turn out to be accurate, then they are
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: going to be paying not only compensatory damages, but punitive damages,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: perhaps the hundreds of millions. And they should because somebody
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: has to pay for what happened, not only to this
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: young man, but to his family, what happened to her family.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And it goes on and on and on. Look, she
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: was the cancer, and this is an onion whose skin
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: gets continually peeled back. And the more it's peeled back,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the more victims there happened to be. And it's really
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: very sad. But hopefully we can take this and turn
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: into a teachable moment for the entire educational system throughout
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the country and maybe the world. You know, I wish
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that were true, Daryl, but from what I've seen as
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: she willcot. This happens over and over and over, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: it keeps happening, and we keep having classrooms that are closed.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I can't look at my children. I don't know what's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: happening right now. They even have live streaming for dogs
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: and cats and doggy day care, but not for students.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: What about that, Ashley? It does keep happening. I think
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that we're moving in that direction where they're going to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: be more and more need for security cameras because even
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: with background checks, even with all the precautions, it's going
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to keep happening. You're going to have predators, and so
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I think we're moving in that direction. Sadly, you just
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: can't trust someone. I think overall generally we can trust
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: people who are in positions of authority and responsibility, but
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: ultimately we're going to continue to have predators. I hope
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: we're moving in that direction. But sadly, it was not
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: in time to save the life of this boy, Corbin Madison,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: who commits suicide after his teacher, to Neil Whittaker, sex
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: molests him and then it goes public as far as
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to Neil Whittaker goes rot in hell. Nancy Grace crime stories,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: signing off goodbye, friend,