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Luke’s Diner: Don’t Let the Days Go By · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do.
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  Speaker 1: Luke's Diner with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey Everybody,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I'm all in Podcast one eleven productions, iHeartRadio,
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  Speaker 1: iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast one on one episode Luke's Diner
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  Speaker 1: with the one and only Gavin Rossdale. Gavin Rossdale as
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  Speaker 1: you know, lead vocalist, guitars founder of Bush, sold twenty
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  Speaker 1: four million records so far in the US and Canada,
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  Speaker 1: earning the Ivor Novella Award for Songwriting with twenty six
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  Speaker 1: consecutive top forty hits, including number one singles like Listening
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  Speaker 1: and The Sound Winter.
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  Speaker 3: He also.
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  Speaker 1: Found solo success with Love Remains the Same. Beyond music,
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  Speaker 1: he acted in films like Constantine, The Bling Ring. Bush
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  Speaker 1: recently released Loaded the Greatest Hits ninety four to twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three and wrapped a major North American tour, with
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  Speaker 1: more new music and global touring ahead in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw that schedule. That's an ambitious schedule. It's
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  Speaker 1: an arena tour Canada, Latin America, Canada, United States. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to be everywhere. He's now starting a new project,
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  Speaker 1: Dinner with Gavin Rossdale, which premieres February thirteen on videos
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  Speaker 1: free streaming service watch Free plus a new episodes come
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  Speaker 1: out every week. Gavin, Hello, thank you, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Can we talk before we get into your new show?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a cooking guy too, and I
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  Speaker 1: love cooking. I cook for my family as often as
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  Speaker 1: I can when I'm home. I love your story. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us a little bit about, you know, that period of
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  Speaker 1: time when you were struggling and sixteen sixteen Stone hadn't
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  Speaker 1: even been written yet, it hadn't come out. That was
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  Speaker 1: what nineteen ninety five tell us about the early years
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  Speaker 1: and what that was like making it up that ladder.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I really committed my whole life to music, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so when I left school and I didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: go to college or anything like that, I really wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get on with the world, take a world on
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  Speaker 3: way out of that man and I just it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a brilliant time of just self discovery, of
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  Speaker 3: just trying to find out who I was and living
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  Speaker 3: in London. I had an a problem with a few friends.
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  Speaker 3: We would die out every night. We would be the
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  Speaker 3: kings of London Nightlight got out. We were but I
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  Speaker 3: mean we would go regularly out to all different clubs.
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  Speaker 3: Had no money. I'd never bought a dream, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: have any money. It never really bothered me because there's
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  Speaker 3: never any perspective on that being anything peculiar or you know.
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  Speaker 3: So it was just somehow we did it. I can't
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  Speaker 3: believe it. And I was in two other bands before Bush,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that they were really helpful. And I
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  Speaker 3: meant I was the last one standing in both bands,
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  Speaker 3: because that's my nature, right, I don't give up. Other
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  Speaker 3: people give up before me. And so twice I was
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  Speaker 3: left standing left of the altar of music or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And it was weird because my second band, you know
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  Speaker 3: the guy Emil Lovely Lovely Emial Lobo, and he was
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  Speaker 3: amazing guitar player, but more of a classic rock kind
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  Speaker 3: of guitar player. So I went from a guitar player
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  Speaker 3: in my first band who was a bit more sort
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  Speaker 3: of pop oriented. I couldn't do the Gang of Four
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  Speaker 3: stuff that I liked as clearly don't yeah, my I
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  Speaker 3: just would suggest music. Then I wasn't. I didn't. I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't playing well enough. I sort of was like a
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  Speaker 3: played busking chords, you know what I mean to get
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  Speaker 3: through a Dylan song, but nothing, nothing you'd call like
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  Speaker 3: a more like a real songwriter style of limited guitar playing.
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  Speaker 3: So and even the first band, I didn't play it
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  Speaker 3: at all, So I had to ask for things. And
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  Speaker 3: I love Public Image, but that the band didn't ever
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  Speaker 3: sound like Public Image, but midnight at the first mine
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  Speaker 3: and in the second band, I wasn't He wouldn't let
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  Speaker 3: me play guitar, didn't want me to play guitar, and
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  Speaker 3: which is sort of fair enough because it's really accomplished
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  Speaker 3: guitar player. But the problem is is that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: especially in my line of work, it's not like it's
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with the quality of your guitar playing.
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  Speaker 3: In order to write a song, he's had to know
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  Speaker 3: enough to give it the framework. And I was really
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  Speaker 3: really lucky to then be blessed through two incarnations of
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  Speaker 3: Bush with two phenomenal on guitar players, both of them.
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  Speaker 3: So I've been really lucky. As my foils, they've been
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  Speaker 3: great and and and what happened is that I got
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  Speaker 3: forced into writing songs because I couldn't find anyone to
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  Speaker 3: work with. And before I had done that. I just
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  Speaker 3: thought it was a bit embarrassing to say, you devote
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  Speaker 3: your life to music and being a songwriter, but you
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  Speaker 3: couldn't write your own song and you're always waiting around
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  Speaker 3: for someone else to write a song with. I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was weak, you know. So that's why I began
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  Speaker 3: writing songs on my own. I mean, I'm perfectly collaborative now,
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  Speaker 3: and I work and I write, you know, with my
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  Speaker 3: band or the producer, and so I'm really open to that.
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  Speaker 3: I like that, and Tyler Bates I've written with a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. It's a whole different It's just a
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  Speaker 3: different way of approaching it. And I think that no
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  Speaker 3: one cares if I wrote it or I wrote it
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  Speaker 3: with someone else. Really, so I always write the top line.
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  Speaker 3: I always write the words. So and so those years
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  Speaker 3: were wild, and we're all we ever lived by was
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  Speaker 3: the ethos of what would be like if we ever
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  Speaker 3: had a die lemma about which door to go through,
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  Speaker 3: We'd say, where would Jim Morrison go? Where would so
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  Speaker 3: we always went through gym right to the liquor store? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: whatever story, We totally we lived. We did not not
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  Speaker 3: as much liquor, but more the other door, but we
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  Speaker 3: definitely went through that door. So we lived a wild
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  Speaker 3: life and much in the sort of you know, in
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  Speaker 3: that tradition of just saying that sometimes you can go.
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  Speaker 3: It's the Bill Hicks concept of like, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: not wanting to give drugs a bad name. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you can have a recreationally, you can enjoy yourself and
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  Speaker 3: have a furtive cool time. Now, of course that's all
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  Speaker 3: over because fentanyl ruined everything for anyone, so now you
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  Speaker 3: can't be like that. But back in those days it
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  Speaker 3: was just sort of London was really permissive, really open,
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  Speaker 3: really free and really wild, and I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: really about living the full life, so that you know,
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  Speaker 3: immersing yourself in the culture of songs and writing and
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  Speaker 3: living and being and you know, not sort of having
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  Speaker 3: a fall back not having money or fall back job
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  Speaker 3: like I did menial jobs at that time you were.
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  Speaker 1: Asking about, So tell me about the songs from sixteen Stone.
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  Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Was that just coming out
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  Speaker 1: of you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So we lived in this basement in thirty seven
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  Speaker 3: Montague Square and I lived in the basement. My friend
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  Speaker 3: Alex lived in the front room. Pete who still works
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  Speaker 3: with me, he sort of lived for quite a while
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  Speaker 3: in the corridor. Nikki Lothar from Canada, I see, lived
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  Speaker 3: in the boiler room, and I had a girlfriend for
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  Speaker 3: a number of years through that time, so she lived
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  Speaker 3: with me, and so it was a real social hub.
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  Speaker 3: You know, stuff was going on. It was just pretty
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  Speaker 3: bare bones apartment, but really fantastic beautiful and we would
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  Speaker 3: go out all night and or stay up all night whenever,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the combination, have real fun. Stand in this kitchen.
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  Speaker 3: The kitchen was like covered in graffiti, with like one
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  Speaker 3: single cooker. I always remember it, but it was just great.
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  Speaker 3: It was like we'd get these big vats of pasta
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  Speaker 3: from the from the deli and King's Cross five pounds
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  Speaker 3: of five bucks worth of this massive thing wheels and
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  Speaker 3: pasta wheels, and so every day we'd have any kind
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  Speaker 3: of combination of these pasta wheels. Because my friend Alex,
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  Speaker 3: he grew up at a restaurant, so he was always
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  Speaker 3: really nifty at putting an eggplant parmesan together or doing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And he came from an Italian background, so we those
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  Speaker 3: pasta ways were great. So it was it was an
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  Speaker 3: amazing time. I was really pleased when you know, I
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  Speaker 3: found the lightning, bolt of success and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you know what I mean. I felt like
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  Speaker 3: a much more belonged in a place where I could
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  Speaker 3: just be productive and not be sort of always hit
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  Speaker 3: a creative wall. So no one can you can I
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  Speaker 3: make this record? No can I do this all? No
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  Speaker 3: can I No, just endless nose, And so you just
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  Speaker 3: keep going until someone says, yeah, you should do that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, let's put all these songs together. Like when
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  Speaker 3: I was signed to Epic with Midnight and muff Wind
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  Speaker 3: would sign me, it wouldn't put make it, let us
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  Speaker 3: make an album, would make a record. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of singles, and I'm sure we weren't
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  Speaker 3: good enough. I don't even singing about like a year.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, it's crazy that I could even get
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  Speaker 3: a deal. But I think that because I was forced
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  Speaker 3: to go to church every morning to listen to sometimes
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  Speaker 3: Latin hymns and sometimes It's hymns, I had a real
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  Speaker 3: sense of cadence of that. And you know, I am
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  Speaker 3: I'm complete atheist, but I use Biblical language the whole
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  Speaker 3: time because I think it's like so beautiful. Lots of
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  Speaker 3: the words that you associate with the Bible, you know
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  Speaker 3: sin you know, such an amazing word and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, it's a weird mixture. But I think that
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  Speaker 3: time was was was incredible, and I don't look at
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  Speaker 3: like a time of failure. It's just like a time
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  Speaker 3: of growing and trying to sort of find myself. And
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  Speaker 3: the best thing about creative life is you can keep
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  Speaker 3: on growing. There's no really no reason why you should
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  Speaker 3: fall off. I think I've just made the best record
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  Speaker 3: I've ever made, or right up there, it's really really,
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  Speaker 3: really good. Not the best road I've ever made, that's stupid,
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  Speaker 3: but definitely continue, really proud of this record full stop.
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  Speaker 1: Some of your influences back then, I mean there was
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  Speaker 1: ninety five sixteen Stone comes out. I think Oasis was
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  Speaker 1: kind of ruling the roost at that point. Still right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: persuede blur. Right, there's a whole.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible movement of britpop, celebration of England and me being
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  Speaker 3: marketing genius. I am fell in love with the sound.
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  Speaker 3: Had nothing to do with that, And the best part was,
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I can remember the moment. I can
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  Speaker 3: remember the whoay in my flat Montague Square and I
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  Speaker 3: used to have I had the music. I had my
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  Speaker 3: Hi Fi on a trolley, so you'd take the speakers
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  Speaker 3: are really long wire, you know, so you'd take the
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  Speaker 3: speakers at either end of the apartment wherever we were,
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  Speaker 3: and they'd be stationed and then wheel the trolley and
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  Speaker 3: then you play your records or there. It was a sprint,
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  Speaker 3: so because often we'd be wherever we were, we were three
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  Speaker 3: places to be my bedroom, which is always about a
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  Speaker 3: TV because there's only one TV, so it'll be crashed
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  Speaker 3: there watching the football or hanging out whatever. And then
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  Speaker 3: the kitchen where mainly we'd hang out. And then in
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  Speaker 3: the front room, which is the sitting room, which is
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  Speaker 3: where you're meant to hang out. We would hang out
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  Speaker 3: once Alex Alex folded the better way. It wasn't a bed,
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  Speaker 3: it was the sofa, so he'd bansally put the sheets
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  Speaker 3: behind or bang behind it, opened the window and got
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  Speaker 3: rid of him and light the candles and then that
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  Speaker 3: then we put the speakers in there. So it was
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  Speaker 3: a really it was a sort of When I think
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  Speaker 3: about it, it gives me a lot of pleasure to
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  Speaker 3: think about all those things. Because it was desperate or die.
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  Speaker 3: It was just youthful and vibrant and just so ignorant
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  Speaker 3: and brilliant, you know, amazingly ignorant. Like I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: what I was fighting for. That's the best thing about
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  Speaker 3: being young. You fight, but you don't know who you're
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  Speaker 3: fighting or what you're fighting for, right, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: was just a I wasn't rebellious like I. One was
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  Speaker 3: getting in trouble and steaming cars, but I was in
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  Speaker 3: I was rebellious psychologically.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's shift gears a little bit. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about your new show, Dinner with Gavin Rossdale. What what
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  Speaker 1: inspired this?
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  Speaker 3: I think predominantly the main the main thing was was
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  Speaker 3: really it was a desire to have a voice. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I felt a little voiceless, you know, I felt a
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  Speaker 3: little Yeah, I felt a little voiceless. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's what happens, you know with musicians who make rack gords.
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  Speaker 3: You do some interviews which you're edited and you're cut
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  Speaker 3: up for their benefit. So do people get a sense
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  Speaker 3: of you? I was always wasn't sure if I'd come
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  Speaker 3: across writing interviews, and then as time went on, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when definitely, when press receded and no one gave an interviews,
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  Speaker 3: no one really cares that much about read. That was
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  Speaker 3: all the social media and podcasts, you know, now, So
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  Speaker 3: I just thought, if you know, I wanted to stay
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  Speaker 3: hung because I wanted to be with my boys. I
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  Speaker 3: don't have to always leave to make a living that,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, haven't achieved. I still have to leave
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  Speaker 3: if you want to make a living, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: this food, sure, this present time is more than a
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  Speaker 3: labor of love.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I better on myself, you know, I you know, funded
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  Speaker 3: it myself to start with, and so I'm knuckled deep
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  Speaker 3: in it, as they say. And I have skin in
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  Speaker 3: the game. I wore the skin in the game out
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  Speaker 3: of my whole body in the game. So it was
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  Speaker 3: just this opportunity to do that. But that began, like
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  Speaker 3: you know, many years ago, and I shot the pilots
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  Speaker 3: and I just everyone who saw it loved it except
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  Speaker 3: any commissioning editors. No one would make it. It was
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  Speaker 3: like my music career, no one will sign me. So
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  Speaker 3: to have to hang on and continue to try and
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  Speaker 3: evolve and not take it personally. Don't take no personally,
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  Speaker 3: you know. That's what I was trying to do, right
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I had three production companies three, probably
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  Speaker 3: maybe four. The first guy failed, then three subsequent Yes,
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  Speaker 3: actually this is the fourth production company that needed another
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  Speaker 3: production company to finalize the deal. It's like TV blow
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  Speaker 3: your brains out. It's just a fucking madness. So apparently
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  Speaker 3: I needed another producer to go with the fourth producer.
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  Speaker 3: I had to make it happen. But you do what
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  Speaker 3: you need to make it happen, and you just like, yeah, so,
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  Speaker 3: I just it's it's a weird one for me. But
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I've always had this ability a bit
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  Speaker 3: to cook. I don't really know why, you know. I
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  Speaker 3: don't do many things, you know, it's music, my family,
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  Speaker 3: my girlfriend, music, tennis, I don't know. But cooking I love,
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  Speaker 3: you know, So I I have a real passion for it.
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  Speaker 3: And I love that and I love that you cook.
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  Speaker 3: I just like a dude at his house who cooks
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  Speaker 3: for people he loves if they let you know, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean. That's as convoluted as it is.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the food is not really the central
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  Speaker 3: thing of the show. It's really secondary. It's like a subplot.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a cooking show at all. I just happen
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  Speaker 3: to cook. Just that's the sort of the backdrop. That's
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  Speaker 3: the that's the subplot in there.
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  Speaker 1: So you have Serena Williams on one episode, Common Brookshields,
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  Speaker 1: Jack McBriar, others, and you get into these these these conversations.
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  Speaker 3: I have a good dinner with it.
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  Speaker 1: You're having dinner.
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  Speaker 3: I try to have a great dinner with them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and and and there's no it's just so embarrassing that
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  Speaker 3: I can even do it where I can say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I got six cameras, but I'm just gonna be myself,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to cook. I've got six cameras, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't like what it may say about me because it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't really bother me. But I think it's just it's
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  Speaker 3: being incredible. I'm so grateful to all of them because
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  Speaker 3: what a leap of faith for them that I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: going to totally up for them. That's the way I like.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like because all the way along that my achilles
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  Speaker 3: heel about the show from the get go was did
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  Speaker 3: I could I figure six interesting people that would agree
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  Speaker 3: to do the show? You know, that was the biggest challenge.
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  Speaker 3: I knew I would always show up. I knew I
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  Speaker 3: could cook all day long. You know, it's gonna be fine,
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  Speaker 3: and I knew Jesse, who directed it, is going to
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  Speaker 3: you know, make it look beautiful. But we didn't have
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  Speaker 3: is the assurance that you could commit to people, because
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  Speaker 3: you imagine getting people's schedules aligned. There were people that said, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 3: they'd love to do it, but they couldn't find a date.
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  Speaker 3: So people said yes, but deferred, you know, to another season.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that was the challenge. So that to me,
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  Speaker 3: I sit in awe and gratitude that I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I got away with it by you know, I hope
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  Speaker 3: that if we get to season two, it's easier because
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  Speaker 3: people see the format and see what it looks like,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just basically a way for also those people
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  Speaker 3: to be heard and listened to in a way that
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  Speaker 3: I think because I'm not a professional interviewer obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's just me beingquisitive about how they how
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  Speaker 3: they get to where they who, you know, how they become,
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  Speaker 3: who they have become, and whatever their journey is.
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  Speaker 1: So what is your favorite British dish that you prepare
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  Speaker 1: or is it not British?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I try to know as I cook
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  Speaker 3: all the time. I've really got to try and be dynamic,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I don't have a I mean, my
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  Speaker 3: eleven year old just just have the last portion he
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  Speaker 3: can ever think of for a moment, of spaghetti bolonnaise
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  Speaker 3: or Gweny bolonnaies because all he would eat. So I
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: would always make a bolannaise for him. I can make
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: a bolognaise with my eyes that comes out great. But
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: thank god, he's like, you know what he sends to me,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Penny vod because my new favorite dad got it. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I try not to repeat myself. But one thing that's
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: orders consistent when I go back to is a full
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: English roast. So that's with the Yorkshire puddings, roast potatoes,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: the rib of beef, some crazy demiglass sauce, crazy vegetables,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to make some desserts, I mean just recently,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: which is a bit skined of going to be getting
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: really into making desserts. So I never really used to
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: be into that, and in fact, the show made me
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: sort of get more focused on that. But I justn't
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: be worried I'd be like the size of the house
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: if I became too proficient. Look, I guess I made
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: you to me like seventeen seventeen. I guess against and meanwhile,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like blowing up like a michelin man. You know.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It's I have a ten year old that I love
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: cooking for him.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: He loved.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: We're we're experimenting with different marin arisauces because he can
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: literally eat like a mountain of pasta. It's I can't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: eat that much this kid, and he never gains weight.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's it's just wild. I don't think there's anything that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: brings me greater joy than than cooking for my family,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: my wife and my son. It's just my favorite time
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of day is five o'clock and I start prepping. I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: just I love it and I like to drag it
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: out as long as I.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Possibly the same. Yeah, I because I don't.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like to travel that much anymore. I want
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to be with him and I want to be with her,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and I just I just, you know, I'm kind of like,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm over it now. I did it for
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: so many years, and it's like, okay, I.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Haven't go up yet. I'm still traveling. I am too.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I can't get out of it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I mean it's quite it's intense. I mean, it's funny.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: These lives that we have, you know, are being really reflective.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: It's weirt because you know, I think about it, my
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: son's going into music and the challenges they'll have. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: have a new record coming that is about to come
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: out called I Beat Loneliness and Nice and that's coming
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: out wherever the next couple of months.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: You excited about the tour, Yes, you're gonna take You're
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: gonna take your boys with you.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Well that's the only downside. Yeah, I can't take them
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to Canada because or South America because they're in school
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: at that time, right, and those aren't the tours to
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: take them. And then I would take it in North America.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I have the I get my own bus just to
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: have them and sort of squander most of my way.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I'm getting a bus. It's so dumb, like buses are
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: so expensive three times as money as much money as
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: they were three times.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And the drivers can't drive as many hours now, right.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Right, So you get three sides as much for less value. Yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I got my old driver. Back in the day, they
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: would like because they'd get over drives, they'd get overdrives.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So not naming any names, but you know there's some
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: some you know some some Bolivian drives across the cross
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: state lines.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Are you playing California?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: There's terrified when I think back that bus hurtling at
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: eighty miles an hour. I had a crash last summer
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: with my boys on the bus. My bus driver passed
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: out seventy miles an hour across the divide. We could
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: have been killed easily across the divide. When the other
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: side of the of the freeway, I don't know it
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: was I think it was five in the morning. Yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: and he crashed, hit a pole and then went back
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: up and then hit a pole. It was like, we
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: have to change the buses. That we were lucky to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: say this. They would have been you know, the TV
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: show would have been huge, The record would have been huge.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: You know, it would be my legacy. But he did
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: all this and he died and so at least he
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: left us this TV show in his last record.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Now, luckily I destroyed that marketing plan because my kids
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: are on the bus. It was like, my kids, thank god,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: slept through it right because he hit the pole and
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the bus came to a slow but he because he
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: woke up at the end and on the driver's camp.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It never gave us the cam back because he's passing
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: out seven seven seventeen miles now. He he when we
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: when I saw him when we got off the bus
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and he was talking to the police and he's sitting
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: there and he with the ambers his days. First of all,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: he never got back on the bus. He never drove
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: a bus again. He retired there and then he said
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I'm done. He said, I'm so sorry for the danger
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I put you and your family in. And I never
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: saw him again. He'd quit driving. He never drove the
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: bus again. They came, someone picked up the bus and
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: we got on the band bus and we're like, wow,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: we just literally escaped death. Well we went on the
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: wrong way on the freeway with the diver's sleep. It's crazy.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Are you going to play?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: You play in California? Is there a tour stop somewhere
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: in La?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I hope so. But I got to say, I did
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: look at it, and I didn't see California. Oh yeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I saw think I saw the forum. What am I saying?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I saw the first tool thing that there wasn't It's
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: too overwhelming for me to look at the dates. I
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: know what I'm doing it, I know more or less
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I'm leaving. I'm a bit confused. I don't know if
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I go to Canada or South America first. I don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: go to.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: South America first, then Canada, then the States. Wow, you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: have a you have a couple of gigs in South America?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: How is this going to feel extra safe after that?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Canada?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: From the favelas in real? Are you gotta feel very
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: safe in Canada? Yeah?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, one last question, I'll let you go. If you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: were to ever come into Luke's diner, okay, my diner?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what would you order? Oh? I'm a I'm
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm a real sucker for like bacon and
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: eggs and fries. I love the you know, fries with
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: eggs is just really underrated. I would make that. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: make really nice fries and then cook them with a
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm real simple. I'm a breakfast all day kind
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: of person. Just eggs and bacon and a French fry
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and a toast or a good coffee. That's my jam
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: whenever I have strayed. Do you see we have cat
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: we get England. We call them cafe CAFs. You know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: so I grew up and you always have two eggs,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: well done, bacon, chips and tomato. Guy, I would say,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: would you like any sauce for that? No, no sauce
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: one time out of maybe. I know, we used to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: go there fifteen years straight now before I got successful,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: and we'd eat there like a couple of times a week.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Is very you know, ten dollars breakfast. And one time
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I've veered off the menu and I got the special
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and I didn't get the bacon and eggs, and I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: still regret it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: So if I kench you a diner, well, I know
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: what you say, but diner makes me. I got to go.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I can't not have bacon and eggs.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: We'll be really so listen, we'll come out and see
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you when you hit the forum. I'd love to see
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the band. I saw you, guys. I saw you guys
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: in the nineties.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: It was kind of a different band now at the
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Palladium in Wow, okay in Hollywood, right right right right
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: in the nineties.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Wow, a long time ago. Yeah, great show.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But we'll come out of the forum and great and.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Check you out. Yeah, we'll bring some out there, all right.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Gavin Rastell, thank you so much for thank look on
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the tour and the show all the best, all right,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: thanks man.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Dot Hey everybody, and to forget.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at i Am all In podcast
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.