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Muster great courage equal to your fear · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:20
  Welcome, our wonderful, wonderful, wonderful audience for today your patience with the only moderately self-replicating ginger and Peter Bregen today.
• 0:35
  And we are trying to come to gifts with some very complex problems that we have not been immersed in ourselves around the MRNA issues recently, simply because we've been immersed in ginger focusing entirely on getting me, whatever the latest treatment would be anywhere in the country for the stroke that I had.
• 1:07
  The stroke, incidentally, for those of you who know more about neurogy is in nice the thalamus in what's called the internal capsule.
• 1:22
  And this is an area where there are so many um basic connections going on within the brain, including between the frontal lobes and the um more simple structures that go down the spinal column.
• 1:42
  That injury is highly unpredictable and can involve anything from lobotomy like apathy and indifference to loss of some kinds of impulse control.
• 1:58
  And um, those of you who know my views have always emphasized that we are not our brain, that we are an entity that is spiritual, very hard to pin down.
• 2:15
  Uh exactly what that means, but most of you have a personal sense of it, where you know you are we are the captain of our brain, captain of the ship.
• 2:26
  Well, the problem is the thalamus uh seems to have a number of the uh guidance systems and um the wires for them that involved making judgments and making decisions.
• 2:43
  There have been times when I look down at my left side and my left hand, and which can become paralyzed in mind my left side just became weaker.
• 2:53
  I didn't go into any when I don't have any really marked distortions that you would look at when I'm walking or talking and say, oh my, he's had a stroke.
• 3:04
  Look to the left side of his face is moving, or his face is perfect.
• 3:10
  Um it's wonderful to have a wife who thinks your face is perfect.
• 3:17
  It's like that in itself is a gift.
• 3:22
  Um I'd like to break in here just for a minute.
• 3:26
  Go ahead.
• 3:26
  And say this is the Breagan hour.
• 3:29
  And we air over each weekend on Saturdays and Sundays at 4 p.m.
• 3:34
  uh eastern time, America Out Loud dot news.
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  And we have a lovely guest today.
• 3:42
  We're going to bring in in just a minute, Karen Kingston.
• 3:45
  And meanwhile, a cutting, lovely cutting edge person.
• 3:50
  Yes, definitely.
• 3:52
  And meanwhile, um Peter, do you want to continue for a minute and then we can bring Karen in?
• 4:00
  So I'm actually experiencing firsthand what I can and can't control.
• 4:07
  Um sometimes we get a surprise.
• 4:11
  We're still learning about uh aspects of the injury.
• 4:17
  When I had COVID, which may be one of the reasons I ended up with a stroke of head.
• 4:24
  We found when the stroke was discovered on the 11th of August in the evening when I was hospitalized for what was thought was sort of uncomplicated seizures just from aging brain.
• 4:42
  I'm 89 now, and um they started to the dismay of one of my clients who was somebody I've known for years and who still I'm still seeing face to face rather than on FaceTime, and um sitting with her and looking at her and um my uh my uh all of a sudden my thinking seems to get fuzzy in a way I've not understood before.
• 5:25
  I'm not quite as present as I would like to be in some way or connecting to what's going on, but she's saying, Oh my god, Peter, your eyes just rolled up in your head.
• 5:36
  Are you okay?
• 5:38
  And um, I'm trying to say get ginger, and it's coming out like a cow mowing.
• 5:48
  Trying to imagine, imagine a cow moaning, get ginger, and that was kind of what it sounded like.
• 5:54
  Yeah, ginger.
• 5:56
  Fortunately, that didn't last very long, just a couple of minutes, and that was two months before he had the uh full stroke event.
• 6:05
  So he was already being evaluated by a neurologist.
• 6:09
  Uh, but it they weren't looking at stroke, they were looking at seizures.
• 6:13
  I think because I was so convinced I was experiencing some sort of seizure because I think that many of you would be wondering what was the matter with me because if I had left-sided weakness, and this other process was going on, you immediately start thinking seizure is not not the issue here.
• 6:36
  The issue here is a stroke impending, and an early stroke is called the TIA Transient ischemic episode.
• 6:45
  And that I'd actually had several already in different scattered parts of my brain that just hadn't shown up as strokes.
• 6:53
  The stroke it's originally showed up as imbalance.
• 6:59
  Um and um fortunately, um, through all this confusion, even in the hospital about what was going on.
• 7:11
  Um ginger was there and protecting me from drugs that were not good for me, and um taking on a team of well-meaning physicians who just were preoccupied with the wrong issues.
• 7:29
  Um people in hospitals now really do need educated advocates.
• 7:39
  Yeah, we're gonna have a different show about that at some point.
• 7:42
  Yes.
• 7:43
  I have a guest in mind, but let's um let's get to our guest.
• 7:48
  Well, I'm giving Karen a breather to reorganize it.
• 7:52
  Because it didn't sound to me like you and she had talked ahead of the show.
• 7:57
  No, we hadn't.
• 7:58
  Poor Karen.
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  I'm sorry, Karen.
• 8:00
  Not on our one.
• 8:01
  Oh no.
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  Guests.
• 8:03
  So Karen Kingston.
• 8:05
  That's why this is show started with uh with Karen complaining or apologizing to the audience that she didn't apologize to the audience.
• 8:17
  I thought she was apologizing somewhat.
• 8:19
  No, no, we were talking about having materials right at our fingertips.
• 8:22
  No, we were talking before we were recorded.
• 8:25
  So we're all set.
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  All right, well, I think that usually we do that a day or two in advance, and I think it's because a day or two in advance you were trying to figure out how uh deal with the fact that because of my stroke, I had locked up my oh, the wallet.
• 8:44
  My wallet, which has my had all my important ID in it.
• 8:49
  It was missing for 12 hours, but we found it the next morning.
• 8:54
  And oh my goodness.
• 8:55
  Yes, yes.
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  And we needed because we were not able to fly on the ID that we had.
• 9:02
  So we had to we had to use our ID to get what's called a real ID so we could fly at a moment's notice.
• 9:10
  We'll be doing that later.
• 9:11
  And uh so that was a setback, and that was because I had locked it up in the wrong locker in the men's lockers.
• 9:22
  Peter we have to put stuff.
• 9:24
  I need to bring Karen in.
• 9:26
  Let me bring Karen in.
• 9:28
  Okay, please.
• 9:28
  Go ahead, Doctor.
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  Karen Kingston.
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  Hi.
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  Hi, Ginger.
• 9:33
  Hi, Dr.
• 9:34
  Reagan.
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  It's so good to speak with you and see you, and I'm so happy to hear Dr.
• 9:39
  Bregan that you're you're doing so much better than that you're getting the hyperbaric oxygen treatment.
• 9:44
  Um, just praise God.
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  It uh ginger told me that the timing was miraculously divine in intervention with you finding the treatment and the treatment center.
• 9:55
  So um I I'm very thankful that you're you're on the road to.
• 10:00
  Recovery and doing well.
• 10:01
  Thank you.
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  We're we were, yes, it really was divine intervention.
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  I think some very caring people, doctors actually connected with us out of the uh freedom movement and let us know about this treatment.
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  And I think less than 15 or 16 days later, we were here in Florida, which was a monumental task, but we got it done.
• 10:27
  Wow.
• 10:28
  Peter has actually had five treatments now.
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  The treatment is two hours of time in the hyperbaric chamber with uh supplemental oxygen, and it's two hours a day Monday through Friday.
• 10:43
  So he's had five treatments so far.
• 10:46
  And um first thing I noticed after the first day is he came out looking a lot pinker, which I found very interesting.
• 10:54
  Which seems to follow from being in a oxygen risk rich environment.
• 10:59
  Yes.
• 11:00
  And uh he's tired at times, and that's understandable because I fell asleep on the couch before the show, which is not characteristic of my conduct.
• 11:13
  Right.
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  But the physical body is doing really cellular level repairs.
• 11:19
  So it says, go to sleep, let us do our work.
• 11:22
  And uh one of our one of our uh professionals compared it to being pregnant, where the mother is creating a baby in the womb, and that makes the mom tired a lot of the time, and she needs rest because she's creating a whole life, and I'm sort of uh recreating my brain.
• 11:46
  He's got blood vessels that are being recreated and healed and so forth and other tissue.
• 11:54
  So we're very hopeful, and uh I see I see greater energy in between the tired bouts also.
• 12:03
  There's a lot to uh take hope from at this point.
• 12:07
  I'll tell you when I'm one oddity.
• 12:10
  And I'm glad you're investing in your health.
• 12:12
  Thank you.
• 12:13
  Yes, it is right now.
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  It's very expensive.
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  So that's one of the reasons I'm not yet.
• 12:20
  Um welcoming people, you know, to just jump into this with me.
• 12:27
  Um but there are there are ways around it.
• 12:30
  We started with ginger discovering that you can actually buy hyperbaric chambers, but as we got further into it, it became clear that these are a little more risky, and you really do need uh they can explode easily from the oxygen.
• 12:52
  So you want to you want to have people running it who can remind you don't turn on your cell phone, don't even take your cell phone into the don't take anything in that's like uh has lithium battery that might somehow have a get a spark and then be in this rich environment, start fire.
• 13:15
  So there are issues that need to be carefully looked at.
• 13:19
  So we return the hyperbaric chamber that was on its way to us and just got ourselves ginger to just put our lives on a whole different trajectory and rented a place and here we are at the villages in Florida.
• 13:35
  Florida.
• 13:36
  And by the way, it's it's it's a fraud, folks.
• 13:41
  Um I thought I'd be going to the beach in the summer, you know, and just getting all tan, but it's been very chilly down here.
• 13:51
  Almost a bait and switch kind of thing.
• 13:53
  It got here and it got chilly.
• 13:55
  Now we got snow back in uh Ithaca, New York where we come from, but um, it's been quite chilly down here, and um I haven't done a lot of sunbathing because it isn't just what feels good right now.
• 14:11
  So that that's been odd.
• 14:13
  We've I've never been a snowbird, so I don't have a lot of experience with what happens when you when you move on down the flower during the winter, but the weather's nice, the people are nice, and um this program is very serious, very scientific.
• 14:30
  A lot of research and studying of every member that goes through the process both before and after.
• 14:38
  They treat it like every like they should with an unapproved, not yet FDA approved approach.
• 14:47
  They're treating it as an experiment, and um so uh there's a lot of research going on all around it, and it's giving me a chance to talk to people who know much more about stuff stroke recovery than I ever knew or wanted to particularly know.
• 15:06
  And um it's turning out to be a real learning experience for me, and I'd be able to come and talk about brain damage, not just as a authority, a psychiatrist, describing what he's seen in patients, but it was gone through it because it's very similar, I think.
• 15:25
  What's happening to me is this increased degree of remoteness in particular that is very common in people who have just had too many drugs for too many years, which is almost anybody that's been on psych drugs for a long time, and people what do you mean by remoteness?
• 15:47
  Not engaging with people in the same subtlety.
• 15:51
  The most significant issue, I believe, in psychiatry and what we deal with with people.
• 15:59
  If we understand this of psychiatry understood what I'm about to say, it would change everything, is that all the anguish that's seen in psychiatry is either caused by psychiatry itself or by people who lose their ability or their trust and actually relating to people as if we uh can love one another and trust one another.
• 16:27
  Well, isn't that the state of the world today, huh?
• 16:31
  To make people not unable to not just trust our leaders, but um dividing and not being able to trust you know your neighbors within your own community.
• 16:44
  Well, that is a kind of exactly where my mind went.
• 16:50
  And so what I've been talking, I'm trying to look at more and more now.
• 16:55
  It's almost like um like God's hand telling me to do this because it's been like a compulsion.
• 17:02
  Yeah.
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  What I've been doing is studying books that are going to give me a chance to develop a new way of understanding, I hope, or a better way.
• 17:11
  It's just what you're talking about.
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  How human beings live with under the control of people who have made it their life's work to be disengaged from other human beings and to instead control them.
• 17:26
  And we have to take a break.
• 17:28
  I'm really sorry.
• 17:30
  I'll be back at that means Peter, listen to me.
• 17:33
  I'll start pounding on your leg.
• 17:36
  Pounding on your knee.
• 17:37
  Okay, we'll be right back.
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  Peter Bregan and Ginger Brecken and Karen Kingston.
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  And then we're going to continue with what skilled listeners will understand as a perseveration of a brain injured.
• 19:53
  Overthinker, anyway.
• 19:56
  Um so what I have found myself doing.
• 20:01
  Is reading books so heavy, I literally can't carry them around.
• 20:05
  Three volume set of uh Gibbon the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
• 20:15
  Um the one volume should be a set of Saint Augustine's city of God, and in my mind, I'm sort of in mind my mind, grab all of this with your psychological knowledge, which is actually what Gibbon tried to do, and what St.
• 20:38
  Augustine tried to do as a theologian for St.
• 20:42
  Augustine being the earliest Christian theologian took the basic principles of what Christ was bringing into the Judeo-Christian religions, and he tried to make her more rational and consistent, which is interesting.
• 21:01
  Um one of the things he did was um he discovered a new sin that he added.
• 21:13
  Christ discovered a new commandment, which was to love one another, and he discovered a new sin, which was um in Latin, and I don't have the exact words because I took a nap instead of preparing for this to recover from the tiredness that I was feeling and uh libidness meaning coming from libido or instinct, desire to have power over people, and how it alienates and comes from alienation with people and God, and how it's corrected ultimately by a spiritual decision to not seek power over people, but to instead um uh relate to them as if they could be loved for their inherent worth one by one, which makes life more complicated and means suppressing the worst of yourself, and Augustine actually talks about this, and actually um in uh the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
• 22:45
  He tries to, I'm blocking on his name again, which I was just talking about.
• 22:49
  Gibbons gibbons, thanks that he talks about very similar things as he tries to see what went what went wrong with the empire, and who were the people who destroyed it, and the people who destroyed it were these libidinous power-hungry people, um who came from societies that were only slightly leavened by Christianity and the notion of a loving God, and um these are people who have a lust for power, a lust for power.
• 23:25
  So I've been spending my time immersing myself in these incredibly complex writers, they really are complex and heavy, but they're struggling with the kind of issue that you were alluding to, which is this relationship between the psychology of human beings and the matrix that we get enmeshed in, which is other people's power.
• 23:54
  Um, and trying to to be able to write about that in a meaningful way, and trying to talk about it in a meaningful way.
• 24:04
  One of the keys to that is that what makes the world a crazy place and always has that as soon as people begin, it's this is my own ideas historically living together and owning houses, building houses, owning sheep and goats, and having extended families that were nomadic that actually lived in one place, they became a subject for plunder, and that brought out the most worse than all their neighbors, so that would the same time you get predators who were just looking to rape and murder and control.
• 24:50
  Well, and that certainly continues to this very depth in these much more subtle ways with COVID 19 and the you know, our book that Ginger and I originally wrote that was getting touching on all of this was COVID-19, the global predators, who are the global predators, and how do we become prey to them, trying to improve that understanding because people don't realize that when you look at you know, we look at the you know, what did Fauci do?
• 25:23
  What did um the World Health Organization do working with Bill Gates and Fauci and with uh the uh Europeans um who were but I think we're people myself and people are struggling even with uh the current movement of transhumanism, the deployment of the mRNA, gene editing, you know, nanopolitical technologies that were designed to cause disease disabilities uh and death, that that that was their intention and sterility, is that yeah, it's it's beyond how it's anti-human.
• 26:18
  When when I read, I've said it so many times I've read that moderna patent, and I understood what this technology could do at the subcellular level.
• 26:39
  Folks, I think I touched the microphone in a way that I don't think you did anything, honey.
• 26:44
  Are you there, Karen?
• 26:47
  Yeah, which is I don't even, yeah, I just I can't win.
• 26:51
  There you are.
• 26:52
  No, that's okay.
• 26:53
  It's probably our technology.
• 26:55
  It wasn't it's it's it.
• 27:00
  Oh, I was telling Peter it wasn't the microphone.
• 27:04
  He happened to touch the microphone just when we lost you, and he thought maybe he had caused you to drop off, but I don't think so.
• 27:13
  The mic's changed colors.
• 27:15
  It does.
• 27:16
  No, no, no, I think yeah, I think it's I think it's it's I have a lot of technical problems, and as I said to you, I'm not um I have no power today, too.
• 27:24
  It's it's been challenging day, but it's it's it's beyond it, it's just it's demonic.
• 27:30
  It's it's it's anti-human, and even what's what to me is just disturbing, unnerving.
• 27:38
  I don't want to say um terrifying because I you know God has a plan, and and we know God wins the end, and it's you know, and he will protect his children and his people.
• 27:51
  Um, but you're I we're even seeing uh I'm seeing these money coaches and business coaches, like so.
• 28:00
  Um I know I have friends that are pretty high up, like in Bank of America and some some biopharma organizations, and they're all they're all being pushed to use AI, and then you're seeing these business and money coaches saying, like, oh yeah, you can outsource AI to build your website and and write your um your emails, right?
• 28:21
  And your your funnel, and you can create a digital twin.
• 28:24
  And in the point of being human, God created us to be creators, it's to create we and and and we are good and we do good.
• 28:35
  I know, I mean, but we we we do good things.
• 28:38
  So if we outsource what it means to be human, and we outsource the gifts that our heavenly father gave to us to artificial intelligence.
• 28:47
  I don't know about you, Jinger Dr.
• 28:49
  Brad.
• 28:50
  As a parent, if someone's like, What you gave me, it's not good enough.
• 28:54
  I'm gonna outsource it to this technology.
• 28:57
  Everything that you've given that you've gifted me with, yeah, right.
• 29:00
  It just so it's so beyond me that people aren't, they're not only not they're not questioning it, they're not opposing it, they're enthusiastically embracing it and encouraging others to embrace it as well because they can make money right now in a short period of win all window in a short this short uh window that we have.
• 29:22
  Um, but I don't think AI like climate change.
• 29:26
  I mean, we're not on, you know, you guys aren't under the ocean, you're in Florida right now.
• 29:29
  You're just you're fine, right?
• 29:31
  And we kept saying that these disasters are coming, and I know AI is different than climate change as far as they're saying it's going to, you know, destroy the economy and take over um all of our jobs, and you know, Elon Musk says, What does an economy look like?
• 29:46
  But the thing is Americans and and Europeans and other individuals around the world, they're they're taking an active role in accelerating the adoption of AI and the adoption.
• 30:00
  And of AI is the replacement of human beings with artificial intelligence.
• 30:05
  We probably shouldn't even use that word adopting AI anymore or outsourcing the AI.
• 30:11
  Because the truth is it's about AI replacing you.
• 30:14
  And if you again, if you outsource what it means to be I I know God judges judges us by what's in our heart, but you but we look at people by their deeds too, not just by their words.
• 30:29
  So if AI is doing all your work for you, what does that mean?
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  Like who are you at that point?
• 30:36
  Well, you become a tool of the people who invented AI.
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  And the old idea of computers and statistics, garbage in, then you get garbage out.
• 30:49
  The problem that I think that you're talking about that I want to formulate better for people because it's just not being seen, is that what rises to the top in the human community and controls AI are the people who are driven to want to control other human beings, and that is what you're going to get from AI is a viewpoint about wanting to control other human beings, just like that's what we got out of the sum total of the deep state throughout all of uh COVID, whether it was the FDA or the CDC, it was all orchestrated together by people who are not like us.
• 31:36
  We sit around and try to figure out how to advance our lives and the lives of our loved ones and friends and family, and they sit around thinking about how to control other human beings, and um it's been interesting for me to see that actually way ahead of me, way way back to the start of Christianity.
• 32:02
  Um this had been identified as a very common human trait that was attempting the uh St.
• 32:16
  Augustine was attempting to relate it to original sin and why it would have come out of original sin.
• 32:23
  And um he wasn't saying what I'm saying, which is that this is so much the source of evil, and if you don't look at it, if you don't look at the fact that the authorities you deal with increasingly, especially with the application of AI, are not going to be interested in your welfare, but in your being controlled, and um that's what we're facing, and the uh what you get from AI always is gonna be the lowest common denominator instinctually even from those controllers who don't really want us thinking for ourselves.
• 33:08
  The goal of AI is not going to be to think for ourselves, but to adhere to the global system.
• 33:15
  That's what's ultimately going to be trying to make us.
• 33:18
  Well, yeah, and the more and more people are using people.
• 33:21
  I mean, people are using AI to um, I don't do this, I want to be very clear.
• 33:26
  Um, but people are using AI to do like to write articles or to write white papers, and and then if you don't use it, you lose it.
• 33:38
  They're not going to be able to analyze the information, and you know, I I think that that's another but beyond that.
• 33:50
  Um if you lose that critical thinking skills, then at some point when the AI starts manipulating information, creating false references, false sources, or just misrepresenting what the data actually says, you you won't have the cognitive function to delineate if it's telling you the truth or not, and if what you're regurgitating is true or not.
• 34:12
  Right.
• 34:13
  So anyway, yeah, I just yeah, what I'm trying to say is that you have to recognize that this is actually inevitable because of the people who get to the point where they have enough influence themselves to write for AI to be the leaders in that development, that they are very likely going to be people who don't look for encouraging the individuality of human beings, but look to control them.
• 34:48
  And um that this is an evitable part of human beings, and that's been recognized by careful thinkers for a long time, and that you've got to see this happening to understand what goes on in the world, and um that if you do, you'll be and I would say I mean I think you do, yeah.
• 35:14
  I I would say too, the timing of the emergence of AI is perfectly timed post-the COVID-19 mRNA um injection rollout plus COVID, because the number one side effects, uh the the top system that's attacked, and we know it attacks all the systems, but the number one system is the neurological system.
• 35:35
  So um one out of three people have cognitive dysfunction um after getting the mRNA injections.
• 35:41
  So um everything from anything from memory and speech impairments to um to strokes and um you know, dementia, Alzheimer's and whatnot, a high anxiety, all kinds of of different neurological um paralysis, all kinds of different neurological disorders.
• 35:58
  So it's just interesting now.
• 36:00
  Well, okay, well, you can't remember things, you can't write, you can't fill up these forms properly.
• 36:04
  Oh, well, look, we have the solution for you, we've got artificial intelligence.
• 36:07
  Oh my gosh, to help you do that for you.
• 36:09
  Yes, of course.
• 36:11
  I mean, I uh uh I'm I I'm very aware of shedding being a possibility in terms of uh affecting me and other people who haven't, and Peter and other people who haven't been vaccinated, uh which is another way of sort of contracting the mRNA material and then ending up with adverse effects from it.
• 36:38
  Um I recently had the honor to be invited to uh uh by a wonderful researcher, Jim uh Thorpe, T H O R P E.
• 36:57
  And Jim is a maternal fetal physician who began to realize how dangerous the MRNA vaccines were to the unborn child and the mother both.
• 37:12
  And um he did a review of uh the reports to the um reporting system theirs for the vaccine injuries, and this is a system that everybody has access to and that I used as well.
• 37:38
  And um, for my research, and he invited me to review his paper before he got it published.
• 37:44
  It's been published now.
• 37:46
  Um at this moment, all I can tell you is that uh it's uh James Thorpe, and it's on the VAR system for mRNA vaccines.
• 38:02
  And we have to take another break.
• 38:03
  And it's so widespread to the neurological system.
• 38:06
  Thank you, honey.
• 38:07
  I'm with you.
• 38:08
  Okay, thanks.
• 38:09
  So the damage that Karen's talking about is well known to the FDA and the CDC, both of whom have access and control over this reporting system on the vaccines.
• 38:24
  And um this goes back to the original problem that I talked uh I published on uh Peter and Ginger Substack about and in our book COVID-19 and the global predators, which is that on day one, the reports coming in made clear that COVID-19 vaccines were the ones from uh Pfizer, they're still being put out, haven't been stopped yet by Bobby Kennedy or Trump and Moderna, which was created to produce these things by Bill Gates.
• 39:14
  We have to break right now.
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  We'll take a break and we'll be back to talk some more about this.
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  We'll be right back.
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  But the point I'm getting, I want to get a cause before the break is from day one, it was clear that that the MRNA vaccines were killing people, large numbers, like never seen, seen before with any vaccine in history of any kind that they were at medical disaster, and that information is still not reached the public.
• 39:43
  Um AI as a tool of the authorities will always be a part of the globalist system and isn't going to report that to you when you look it up.
• 39:56
  Yeah, that's right.
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  We have to break.
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  We're breaking.
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  Peter Briggan, Ginger Briggan, and Karen Kingston.
• 41:40
  Peter, you were in the middle.
• 41:43
  Yeah.
• 41:44
  Of just explaining the amount of control that goes into the system that educates us.
• 41:51
  And with AI, it's so easy to get your education.
• 41:55
  We had a wonderful example of it, and when the MRI data came back on August 11th, saying that I had a stroke in my thalamicaria.
• 42:10
  Ginger immediately put into AI.
• 42:15
  What's the results of damage to the thalamic area?
• 42:18
  And she's never recovered from that since that day.
• 42:23
  I got eight pages of material about the potential damages in that region of the brain from a stroke injury.
• 42:32
  But you see, AI isn't gonna say, see the work of Peter Bregan who emphasizes for people that even brain damage doesn't control us if we fully understand what's going on and decide to take control of our own brains, understanding the damage.
• 42:55
  That's what I'm doing and trying to do.
• 42:59
  Well, I think if people understand AI knows why.
• 43:04
  And I think that's and it's unavoidable, it's unavoidable.
• 43:07
  Uh to use it.
• 43:09
  So Ginger, your the answer you got was probably tailored to you.
• 43:12
  Example of that.
• 43:13
  I just made up my mind that above all things, I wasn't going to let this damage do what I've seen it do to so many people kind of damage to the higher functions of the brain.
• 43:28
  Uh, because there are connections being disrupted that have to do with the functioning even of the frontal lobes, as well as the temporal lobes, the tips, the cortex surface areas of these lobes that have to do with being a human being, very much so.
• 43:45
  That I was not going to lose my respect, admiration, and love for my life.
• 43:53
  And in fact, the exact opposite happened.
• 43:56
  I found a new ways of expressing that love, new intensities of feeling it.
• 44:03
  And um I think I, without knowing it took advantage of some of what we call disinhibition, some of the injury to the sinners that suppress and control or enable us to suppress and control scary feelings like intense love.
• 44:21
  And poor ginger or lucky ginger, I'm not sure she can comment on.
• 44:25
  She had to go through this damaged man who certainly wasn't exactly her husband anymore.
• 44:32
  She knew him for 40 years.
• 44:42
  And it's like we have found our love even more deeply now than we ever did before, on my part, partially because of the potential for loss that uh has not uh Peter loves me more than ever, which is wonderful.
• 45:00
  Yeah, Ginger had to overcome her fear of losing me by actually doing everything in her power to avoid losing me, which is one of the keys to life.
• 45:12
  You have a great fear, muster great courage.
• 45:16
  Don't ignore it.
• 45:17
  Muster equal for her courage to the size of your fear, and you will create your life in a better way.
• 45:25
  You'll write your autobiography.
• 45:28
  That's what Ginger did while I was working on just being more aware of how much I love her and what a miracle it was that I still knew that after my injury from the stroke.
• 45:41
  I thank God for it.
• 45:44
  And she thanked God that I was surviving of that I was expressing all this for her.
• 45:53
  I love you, honey.
• 45:56
  What I'm trying to help people understand, which is that when we're dealing with the people who run things, whether it's a Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab or the head of uh the UN or the World Health Organization.
• 46:14
  They didn't get to their positions of power by chance.
• 46:17
  They are driven from within to have power over other human beings in a way you can't imagine.
• 46:25
  And um that's a scary thing.
• 46:31
  And most of us don't have enough of that in ourselves to believe it that people could really behave that way.
• 46:38
  But if you read otherwise, I've been doing these people talking about all of history in this term in these terms.
• 46:49
  So what I'm trying to communicate to people on a political personal level is that it's paramount to understand that the way the world has been constantly at war, is built right into the people who are the kind of people that can take over things.
• 47:10
  They want to take over things, they want to be generals and command people to their deaths.
• 47:17
  It's in them.
• 47:18
  They want to be politicians and disemboly and mislead and control.
• 47:27
  They are control freaks of the worst sort.
• 47:31
  And now they have so many more methods of control.
• 47:36
  AI is gonna be one of them.
• 47:38
  That we have to know this.
• 47:40
  We have to understand this threat.
• 47:44
  Or these controls will just continue to work.
• 47:49
  And they in the interest of the global predators.
• 47:54
  That's basically it in short.
• 47:57
  The global predators have met technology, which people were talking about before I even thought about global predators was about technocrats and a technological state.
• 48:11
  Behind it is this awful impulse.
• 48:14
  Human beings, which is unleashed by these opportunities, and enables human beings who really get off on non-loving us, admiring us, respecting individuals, but who really feed on the hunger that they have to control.
• 48:36
  The intentions and the morals and values of those uh technocrats who are assembling the AIs, have to uh have to inform and and mold the data that are put together.
• 48:57
  I mean, anyone who's ever written a paper knows that complete objectivity is virtually impossible.
• 49:06
  It's a mirage.
• 49:07
  Yes.
• 49:08
  And when you're objective, you're really hiding your personal opinion because people have opinions, and it's the same way with assembling something that's going to provide data, a dictionary, uh thesaurus, um, any of those kind of reference manuals, which is way of summarizing your work.
• 49:31
  Which is what AI is, right?
• 49:34
  Which is attempting to summarize the knowledge of the appropriate people that they select as appropriate throughout the world.
• 49:42
  Exactly.
• 49:43
  So you're going to have that bent and that value there.
• 49:47
  Um that is going to influence not us so much because we remember before AI.
• 49:57
  Heck, we remember before computers.
• 49:59
  But
• 50:00
  But those our children, our grand my grandchildren, our grandchildren are going to grow up and think that you go to AI like you go to a dictionary.
• 50:13
  And of course, when you get more sophisticated scholastically, you discover dictionaries have their own, and dictionaries and encyclopedias have their own set of values that are imprinted within them.
• 50:25
  Um but AI is going to be that way on steroids.
• 50:31
  And human beings are not going to know the degree to which they're being influenced by the values and opinions of the creators of the technology.
• 50:44
  Right.
• 50:46
  Just as uh they have control Google and how hard it is to find something negative about say Hillary Clinton compared to finding something negative about Trump.
• 51:03
  Because that's the politics behind the AIs that are controlling Google, or any of those big search engines have a big element of globalism in them, and of uh control values.
• 51:25
  Um it's going to take all of our regardless, by the way, of what the individual technician might think.
• 51:36
  Right.
• 51:37
  Right.
• 51:38
  When we uh when Ginger and I finished writing COVID 19 and the Global Predators back in the early months of 2020.
• 51:50
  Um I wrote an introduction to the book announcing it to our 40,000.
• 52:00
  What did we call them back then?
• 52:02
  Followers or well, we had a newsletter then.
• 52:06
  Well, we also had not Substack yet, and the Substack.
• 52:11
  That started around that time in 2021, before the book came out.
• 52:16
  We still we started to be we were just working on um the existing system, which is still there.
• 52:25
  YouTube.
• 52:26
  We have 40.
• 52:26
  Oh, we were on YouTube.
• 52:28
  We had 40 over 40,000 followers and or whatever they're called.
• 52:34
  Yeah, and uh YouTube channel it was called.
• 52:38
  I was the Breggans on YouTube, right?
• 52:42
  And um we were permanently taken down from YouTube within 45 minutes of my putting up on our YouTube channel, our best way of selling the book that the book was coming out, they just took us down.
• 52:59
  Yeah, Peter did the announcement of the forthcoming book and the pre-sale website and so forth, and boy, they moved quick, down came our page.
• 53:11
  You managed to I saved everything, fortunately.
• 53:16
  Ahead of time, and you managed to get a little something left in a little fragment telling people where to go to get the book.
• 53:23
  Yeah, I did.
• 53:26
  Amazing.
• 53:27
  But um But you have to do that, you have to expect a certain maliciousness that we have to learn to identify in individual leaders and the systems or that we live in that they actually are malevolent, they don't have the kind of attention and care toward other people as we do, ordinary human beings, but they wouldn't have all the power they accrued, they have the power they accrued because they wanted it more than anything else, and they competed and won against other similar people, so they're at the pyramid of the elite of the real biggest oligarchs or the billion multi-billionaires.
• 54:13
  You have to want above all else to be that multi-billionaire to get to be a multi-billionaire, these kind of choice control spots require a certain kind of intention.
• 54:27
  Um you see the same thing in organized religion too, as it gets larger, it's more controlling, gets more distant from the idea of loving one another, and more into creating a source of power for the people who are running it.
• 54:52
  Um the way life is, folks, and to know what's happening around you, it's very important to understand this, and that's really getting hammered home from St.
• 55:04
  Augustine's observations on the libido, the impulse for power, the lust for power, the lust for power.
• 55:13
  Well, you know, Peter, you're the one that took away my rose-colored glasses when we got together, because I figured everybody is fine deep down inside and probably rescuable, and there are some people who just aren't cut from the same cloth as the rest of us.
• 55:38
  Uh and you also reminded me that this particular time, even with COVID, is not the only time when evil has seemed to take charge.
• 55:53
  Uh, and that this is bad things that have happened to people throughout history, but what Karen was just reminding us of earlier, before we lost her, we lost our audio with Karen.
• 56:08
  What she was reminding us of was that in the end, God wins.
• 56:13
  You don't know when that is.
• 56:14
  That's God's time, not ours, but uh I know in our lives that continues to be the case.
• 56:23
  It's it's like I've experienced miracles, and I'm getting less and less awkward about speaking about them because they keep happening, and God deserves that recognition.
• 56:40
  And we have 28 seconds left.
• 56:43
  We were talking with Karen Kingston today until she lost audio, and we were very grateful to have her on the show, and uh we're so grateful for our wonderful audience and your attention and your love.
• 56:57
  Thank you for all the notes people have been sending us, both um through the from the radio show itself and also through our Substack, which you can find by going to Substack.com and then uh search Ginger Bregan or Peter and Ginger Briggan, and you'll find our Substack.
• 57:20
  Say goodnight, Peter.
• 57:22
  Good night, everyone.
• 57:24
  We love you all.
• 57:25
  Thank you so much for joining us.
• 57:28
  We'll see you next week.