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Do I let her back in my life? · After Maghrib 🌙

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Smillar Ahmad, Rahim, Assalamu Alaikum, and welcome back to
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another episode on the Arthur Mara Podcast.
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There's a brand new week. That means we're having a brand
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new conversation. And where do we begin?
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Ahmed, how on earth did you end up on this chair, Salaam
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Alaikum? Salaam because.
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Last time I spoke before you came, you were in bed laying
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down. I'm not going to lie.
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Yeah. Salaam Alaikum, everyone.
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Miss you guys. Hope you're well.
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Love you lots. Yeah.
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I was feeling sleepy, man. But you know, the hustle has to
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continue. You said that.
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Someone else said that, but it wasn't me.
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But no. Yeah.
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Look guys, we're not doing an episode next week and shot Allah
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this weekend. We have rising Dawn aftermarket
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event which we're looking forward to and we're looking
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forward to seeing lots of you there and shot Allah.
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But we know next week is going to be hectic.
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And also we kind of want to unwind if I'm honest, because
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it's been a crazy few days, few weeks.
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So we're not going to do an episode next week just because
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we haven't pre filmed. So I didn't want to film today,
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but said Ali, call me, he's like bro, Thursdays.
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We have to release on Thursdays. I was like, why we?
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Have to be consistent. Yeah, man, to be fair, we've
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done it. We owe it to them as well.
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I hope so, yeah. Al Hamdullah, we love, we love
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you guys a lot. So we we thought what would be
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nice to be honest because we hadn't like pre planned a topic.
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This is unplanned. So we thought the last time we
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did dilemmas like Reddit dilemmas was really nice.
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We went through a lot of talking points from the Shia Reddit page
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which shout to them and everyone contributing there.
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They they do great work. So we thought we'd check them
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out. Should we do?
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That's it indeed. Indeed.
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Should we start? Do you want to start?
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Let's go, shall I start? Yeah, go on, you start the 1st.
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One off you can I choose any I random or?
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Yeah, whichever you like. So there's no particular order.
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OK. I think we start with this one.
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Go on. So someone sent in a question to
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a merger and it's I, I think one that may be shocking to everyone
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because no one believes that, for example, family members
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could ever be separated or there is distance between them or they
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don't talk for many years. So I think this is something
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important that we go over. The question sent to the office
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is my mother left me since I was born 23 years ago and refused to
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see me. Now she has cancer and asks me
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to visit. I am refusing due to the
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psychological pain she caused and others are caring for her.
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It's my refusal, disobedience, what is my religious duty?
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And the amazing Sheikh, may Allah protect him, responds in
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this, he says, in the name of Allah the Most Highbes Menaha
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Rahman Rahim. The principle of connection.
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As a first point, Islam's general rule connect with those
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who cut you off. Your duty is to maintain ties
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and visit to the extent possible without causing yourself
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critical hardship of psychological harm, especially
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since others provide care. Yeah, the second point, visiting
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now may prevent future regret after her passing.
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Seeing her weak may extinguish your anger and heal you.
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It is an act of kindness, the Quran says, and to parents and
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to parents kindness and repel evil.
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By which is better point #3 the reward of righteousness is
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proportionate to the hardship. Being dutiful to a mistreatment
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to a mistreating parent stems from high faith and self
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struggle. At last Panama Tahala does not
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waste the reward of the doers of good.
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What's nice? Well, I'm reading it now.
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So just to understand correctly, this sister or brother saying
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says that my mother left me when I was born 23 years ago.
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She's got cancer now. Now she wants to see me.
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I don't want to see how. What do I do and respect to?
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She says for three reasons. You can't.
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Well, you should go back. Firstly, for connection.
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Secondly, to not have regret later and to try and find
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healing. Thirdly, that the reward lies in
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the hardship. I think that's quite wise if I'm
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honest. Firstly, obviously in my humble
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opinion, you know, each circumstance is unique.
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Everyone knows kind of what their boundaries and limitations
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are. It sounds like at a time towards
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the end of the mother's life, from the outside looking in,
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you'd imagine that maybe the mother's got regret or that
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she's got no one else to turn to or that she wants to close.
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You know, she's got something been been weighing on her.
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She doesn't want to leave this world without maybe closing it,
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having closure for her, which either might stem from
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narcissism and egoism for wanting to close that chapter
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and say, well, I I did my bit. I can die happy.
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Or there's genuine, which you'd want to believe, genuine
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sincerity in wanting to reconnect with their child,
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which you hope in Charlotte is the case.
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But it's tough, man, you know, at times like this, we refer
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back to what the Quran and the Ali Beta Ali and Salaam have
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said, You know, Sahifa Sajad dear #22 the right of the
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mother, Imam Sajad Ali Salaam says, and it's a long passage.
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I'll just, I'll read you the first line.
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The first line, the right of your mother, is that you should
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know that she carried you when no one else carried you, and she
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fed you with the fruit of her heart, that which no one feeds
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anyone. And she protected you with her
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hearing and her sight and her hands and her legs and her hair
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and her skin and all her other organs.
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She was highly delighted to do so.
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She was happy and eager during the harm and the pains and the
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heaviness and the grief, until the mighty hand of Allah
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Subhanallah expelled you out of her and delivered you out onto
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the earth. It carries on talking about the
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troubles that the mother goes through.
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I think that just goes to show that ultimately the mother has
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acted as a vessel, if nothing else in the life of this, this
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child, but as a vessel for their existence.
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You know, for that alone we are always indebted to our mothers,
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who may Allah protect and bless and reward them all for what
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they've done for us. You know, because even a mother
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who troubles you, who punishes you, who's unjust to you, you're
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still indebted to them. Of course, there's never a way
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to to repay the the fact that Allah has given you existence
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through your mother and the pain and the trials that your mother
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had gone through to carry you. And anyone who's got younger
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siblings, who's had children themselves, who's married and
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seen their wives go through childbirth, or for our fathers
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when they witnessed our mothers, like they will know that the
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process is not easy. So yeah, it's a tough one.
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But I also, So last thing I'll say there's wisdom as well from
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what the Sheikh has said, because he also said on the
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condition that there's no like, what's the word?
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I can't remember the word he used, but like, no irreparable
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psychological harm or something like that.
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He says, without causing yourself critical hardship or
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psychological harm. I think that's really wise.
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I think that's really, really wise because he's, you know,
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he's showing that there has to be a limit.
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Like you can't just say it's one rule for everyone.
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Yeah, I mean, I mean like when I, when I think of it, like when
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I read this and as you're talking, I'm thinking about
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firstly, I understand it is probably a very difficult
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situation to be in because if you feel like your own mother
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has abandoned you for all of these years, 23 plus years, and
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only now she's requesting of you to come see her, where were you
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all this time? So there's a lot of things I
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think happening in the mind of the sister here, but in all
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honesty, and our mothers, their status, like it's, it's, it's,
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it's crazy. I remember just the other day I
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was talking about how much our mothers do for us, some of the
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brothers who are here behind the scenes.
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And I remember I was telling them when we were young.
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I remember, like in my in my family, if I come to my mother,
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for example, I had for example, different appetite of what I
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want to eat. My other sibling had like she'll
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make sure we we all catered for for its own one level.
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There's so much that we don't think about that over the years.
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If it comes to this opportunity, God forbid and the the chef did
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mention for example if she passes away, there may be a
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regret. Of course, yeah.
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I think that is, that is, that is, that is, that is a big thing
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to think about. And from the aspect of, let's
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say a clock, she asked the question, what is my religious
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duty? And I think the fact she asked,
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should I visit? And what is my religious duty?
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She does want to see her mother. I think she does want to close
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any open wound. I think she'd probably just
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wants to get an understanding of what went wrong.
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And I think it's an opportunity like you should go.
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You should visit your mother. And remember, Jenna's beneath
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the feet of your mother, no matter how much they may have
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wronged you, right? I know in our religion, when it
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comes to, for example, even if we have kuffar parents, you
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still show kindness. You still don't say off to them
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they are your parents at the end of the day, whether even if you
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have Muslim parents, there are things that you don't listen to
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them when it's against religion, but you still have to show
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kindness. Tough you still.
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Listen to them, you look out for them, you care for them.
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And I will say one thing with mothers, it's I don't know if
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it's suitable to say, but for example, I've I've heard this
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statement being said before and I think I'll mention it.
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It's someone once said, for example, a wife can be replaced,
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a wife can come, a wife can go, a mother can never be replaced.
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She will always remain your mother.
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That's true. Her son and your her daughter,
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no matter what happens. Yeah.
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So it it just I I don't know. I'm not in that situation.
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Yeah, this is the thing. God.
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Forbid any of us fall in that situation.
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No, of course. Do you know what it is?
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It's like obviously the, the person's young, they're 23.
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Like when you're young, you're, you know, you've got the
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adrenaline, you, you're, you may have a, a hot temper.
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I mean, I know I was like like that more so when I was younger
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with my anger, my lack of tolerance.
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And Charlotte, hopefully I'm getting there, you know, to to
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not have that as well anymore. But you know, like a lot of the
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time you hear the difficulties people have with their mothers.
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I have AI have two friends that come to mind right now.
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Yeah, one of them is a celebrity.
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Like, I mean, huge. Like, huge, huge, huge
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personality. Not just within the shell world,
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like globally. OK, He's a huge, well known guy.
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And he opened up to me one day and he told me about his
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challenges with his mother. He's like, my mother is a
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narcissist. She inserts herself in
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everything I do. She commands everything I do.
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She tries to control everything I do.
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And he's telling me like, I can't escape it.
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I don't know what to do bro. Like these situations are not
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easy to manage. And another person I can think
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of told me about his difficulty in settling down with a spouse
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because of his relationship with his mother and his parents in
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general. But how you know that kind of
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has been a hurdle for him. And then you think in these
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cases for some people Allah has kept the mother, like perhaps
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for this child away, perhaps for a blessing or an unknown reason.
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It could be a test it. Could be a test and every test
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is also a blessing. Like the chef says, the hardship
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is the reward is in the hardship.
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But ultimately, I think whether your mother or your father or
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anyone like that is with you or not, you, you have to remain
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patient. So if you're the presence of
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your mother is a test for you, remain patient.
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If the absence of your mother is a test for you, remain patient.
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Do you know what I mean? So it's something that we all
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have to remind ourselves and also to remind ourselves not to
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become parents like that, You know, like for those of us who
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are young enough to inshallah one day get married and one day
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have children, you know, we will have to train ourselves from
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young. I remember when I was 18, I was
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at a lecture and the respected Sheikh, I remember he said how
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many of you in this? There's about 1002 thousand
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people in the hall. It was huge, huge hall.
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He goes, how many of you in the hall are 18 specifically, not 17
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or 1918. And I put my hand up and like
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maybe seven or eight people in the whole hall put their hands
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up and he goes, you guys, he goes, you guys have to start
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your parenting journey from today.
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That's a solid advice. Yeah, I was like, wow.
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And that hit me then. I was 18 and Hamdullah became a
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parent a few years later. But yeah, man, like you, we we
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always have to challenge ourselves how we're going to be
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good parents. Should we move on?
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Santia, let's move on. Let's move on.
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All right, cool. Shall I read one out?
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Go on. Should have got one.
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OK, cool. I'm going to read 2 out.
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I think they're kind of similar. One of them is Salaam Alaikum.
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Where and how can I gain more knowledge?
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As someone who's converted to Shiah Assalam, how can I
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increase my knowledge? I've listened to a lot of
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lectures. I took a lot of evidence.
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I've made me see the truth of Hamdullah general.
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Kind of moving on a second one. Similarly, I'm interested in
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converting to Islam but I'm also confused about the difference
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between Sunni and Shia because someone guide me through this.
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I want to start by saying that I had a message like this recently
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kind of from a friend who recently became Shia and he said
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to me that since he's become Shia, his non Shia friends, his
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Sunni friends and non-muslim friends are asking him why Shia
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and why the difference between Sunni?
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What's the difference between Sunni and Shia?
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So I want to ask you to clarify that and then we can talk about
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how to increase our knowledge and our Iman and our in once you
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have found Willaya and the truth.
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So what are the primary differences, would you say, to
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answer these questions between the Sunni and the Shia schools
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of thought? And when it comes to the
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differences of the Sunni world and the Shia world, there is a
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lot. Some may argue with only a few,
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but I think if we just focus on the core foundation things here,
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which is our solid Deen, for example, when we talk about
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tahrid, adala, nabuwa, imama, miyad, yama piyama, there's a
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lot of similarity, but there are differences in how we interpret
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these, right? So when we come to the tahrid of
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Allah, the oneness of God, the justice of God, does God has,
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does God have a form? What is his VAT safat and that
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and what are all his attributes and things like this?
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There isn't that much differences, but between both
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the schools there is a clear distinction between a difference
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being there existing, right? So that's one.
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Number two, when we come to the Nabuwa, we all believe in the
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same prophets, the same number of prophets.
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Rasulallah sallallahu alaihiwala is the final messenger of Allah.
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However, for example, when it comes to the iceman of
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Rasulallah, is he Masoom, Can he make mistakes?
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Is he infallible? There is differences there.
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We believe he is when it comes to, for example, the Imama.
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Now this is something very important to us when it comes to
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our school, for example, these are what we believe are the
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successes to us when Allah, Muhammad Salallahu Ali, Hawaii
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Wasallam appointed and chosen directly by Allah, Azza Wajal as
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Hodja on this earth, as his hodja, because we read in the
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Quran, for example, I have installed a hodja on this earth.
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And when we come to, for example, our literature, our
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hadith, if there is no Imam and maybe we speak about Imam
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medicine, if there is no living Imam, this earth won't exist.
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I'll stand. There's a narration by Imam Asad
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Ali Salaam where he says if for a moment, for a second Aslan
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that the Hodja is not on this earth, the earth will swallow
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all its inhabitants. And to that extent and then we
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can come for example to the Kiyama resurrection, judgement
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day, death, Achara, the her afterlife.
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Some differences but majority is all the same.
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However, when we come to things like Farooq, Adin, Salah, Som,
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Hajj, Zakat, again similar but there are differences as well.
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And there people can argue they're minor but 50 wise.
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I think it depends where do you want to get your sources from?
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Directly into the very individuals that Allah Subhanaw
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Taala chose for us, as guides just for us, As for judge on
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this earth for us. So it all depends.
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However, I would say one thing and I don't think there is time
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for me to go into too much detail.
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If we just look at a saying by Imam Ali, Ali has Salam Amir al
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Muhammadin. When someone came to him at the
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battle of German and answered my question, he says, for example,
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your side is calling towards alas of Panama to Allah and so
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was the side of Valhan Zumaer, right?
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Where do I stand? Who's on who, who, who has the
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truth at the end of the day? And the the Imams replied to him
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something so beautiful. He said don't look at the people
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to find the truth, seek the truth and you will know its
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people. Yani where that is one example
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of how eloquent and how godly and spiritually Imam Ali, Ali as
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Salaam can speak to that level. Yani, I don't know where else
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you want to go, so I don't want to take the conversation in that
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direction. But somebody asks, for example,
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how can I learn more about the school of Alibeit, Shia Islam,
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What you guys are all about? I think very simple if you live
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close to a local parsenia, to a mosque, to a Masjid, knock on
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the door. Yeah.
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Go speak to a learner chair for respected Molana and ask them
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the questions I need. I I think if you want to learn
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about Islam, firstly you have to get your AKA there in check.
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But once you do that because you're told, hey, it has to come
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from you. You can't get it from anyone
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else. You have to believe that Allah
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has one. Allah is able to say be and it
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will be like all of this, this comes from you.
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It's from your own fatwa. You can't get that from anyone
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else. But if you want to get the right
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answers to the questions you may have, concerns, doubts,
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misconceptions, you have to ask the people of London.
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I would say listen to the aftermath of podcast.
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Well, you never know mate. No, I agree.
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Obviously it comes down to epistemology as well.
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I know somebody did ask you once.
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Well, where they said where can I learn more about to share your
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what did you what did you require?
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I did the same thing. So we kind of talked about the
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foundations of Sula Dean and the differences.
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But again, look, it comes down to epistemology.
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So whether you determine whether something is something which is
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a grave difference or like a major difference or not comes
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down to what your personality is, your view, your perspective
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on the world is, and so on. So if you're more
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philosophically inclined, you'll believe that understanding God
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and understanding God's oneness and trueness and so on, it takes
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precedent over, for example, details which are more
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technical, like how I wash my arms during war or not, for
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example, if you're more mystical.
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Not that it's not important, but that's not the first step is
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what you're saying. No, I'm not saying anything.
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I'm saying that people interpret based on their epistemology and
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their ideology, what sort of personalities they are.
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All right, So if you're more mythically inclined, you're more
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Alfani and whatnot, you'll say, look, Islam is about what's in
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the heart. Islam is about your love and
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your proximity to to Allah. Who cares who you follow this,
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that what books you read. This is what people would say,
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right? You'd have others who are more
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literary, right? And they would their literalist
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approach to religion may mean that no, we follow things by the
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words and the guidance of the Quran and the other debate what
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they say is that's that doesn't matter if your morality or your
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personality inclines with it to squeeze with it or not, for
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example. And then finally, you might have
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people who are more theologians. And Motukalami in their
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approach, and they might have a more like standardised approach
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to religion. The point being is that
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ultimately on paper, those are the main differences.
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Then the question comes, how do I learn more?
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Right? Yeah.
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So look, there's 2A hadith which I wanted to read really quickly.
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One is from Bahar Al Anwar, Bailal Majesty Ali, Prophet
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Muhammad Sallallallahu Alaihiwale says the virtue of
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knowledge is more beloved with Allah than the virtue of
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worship. That knowledge can be more
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beneficial than Ebada, which is a huge statement.
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Which again comes back to my point on it's epistemology where
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if someone values the knowledge at the ailment of artifa of
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something, it can be worth more than ritualized parroting
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worship. You know what I mean?
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Obviously Allah knows what was worth more in reality, right?
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What the Holy Prophet I believe is trying to say is my own
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interpretation is that if you're genuinely and sincerely seeking
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knowledge, it may be worth more than repeating your praise like
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a parrot and reading your your das mindlessly.
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Do you see what I mean? There's another hadith from Imam
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Sahjada Sulu Karfi where he says Ali Salaam were people aware
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with were people aware of what lies in the obtainment of
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knowledge? They would pursue it even though
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they had to make voyages and endanger their lives to obtain
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it. Bro, the Imam Ali Salaam is
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saying that if you knew what goodness comes from seeking
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knowledge, even if you had to risk your life, you'd do it.
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Just what I'm saying like it's, it just goes to show that we in
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this day and age, with our access, with our knowledge, with
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our like the the ease that we have, the speed which we have to
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be able to attain knowledge and we're still slacking.
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We have no excuse. I want to shout out those who
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are actually doing that. So the Riva brothers and
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sisters, you know, there's a hadith, Imam Salah Alayhi
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Salaam, where he says those who enter the religion through men
22:17
will leave the religion through men.
22:19
And those who enter the religion through the Quran and the Sunnah
22:23
will not leave it. And the mountains will fall to
22:25
their feet and they will be victorious.
22:27
I'm paraphrasing from what I remember.
22:29
We've mentioned this on the podcast before and I feel like
22:33
that Hadith is so beautiful because that to me speaks
22:37
volumes about those who find the religion through the Quran and
22:40
the Sunnah, believe in it through the Quran and the
22:42
Sunnah. Our Rivet brothers and sisters
22:44
are an inspiration to us for that, right?
22:47
You know, there's a brother Gunner Prince, I believe on
22:50
TikTok. Shout out to him doing
22:51
incredible work. He streams recitation of the
22:55
Holy Quran and it's beautiful. Masha Allah, He's been doing
22:59
great work. And you know, shout out
23:00
hopefully when he's in the UK, we'll jump on a pod together.
23:04
And there's so many others who are doing incredible work.
23:06
And it just goes to show that the search, the journey, the
23:10
toils and the the troubles that come with learning about Islam
23:15
and Shia Islam is, is difficult. You are a minority in the Muslim
23:20
world, but it's never not worth it.
23:22
And that's very beautiful. You know, when you see like
23:24
converse and reverse when they come towards Islam, it's like
23:28
like sometimes when you hear their stories of how they found
23:31
Islam or how they fell in love with the, with Islam, or it's,
23:37
it's just like so unique my life.
23:40
It makes you wonder like Hamdallah, we were lucky to be
23:43
born in many ways through this religion and on the path of
23:47
Ahlil Beit and on the Malaya, Bamir and Mumminin and on the
23:50
love of Raswal Allah, Muhammad Sallallahu Aliwali Wasallam.
23:53
But these people wasn't born like that.
23:55
Like what, what, what took them to that stage?
23:57
And sometimes you feel like they felt they were lost.
24:00
You know, they say I'm, I'm lost.
24:02
I don't know what's my purpose in this Dunia.
24:05
You know, I'm drinking and I'm just going out and I'm clubbing,
24:08
but I'm empty. My soul is empty.
24:11
And the soul was searching for something, for fulfillment, for
24:14
contentment, for Sakuna at the end of the day.
24:16
And they found that with this love.
24:18
Bro, humans need this man. Humans need identity, they need
24:21
communion. They need relationships.
24:23
They need a sense of belonging. And the beautiful thing about
24:26
Islam is, even if you're alone, you have a loss of part.
24:28
Of course, that means you're never alone.
24:31
Yeah, we need to get to a point where we are so content with
24:35
being alone that we appreciate it and we, to a degree are eager
24:41
for it. So, for example, like, and I
24:43
know this is where I need to get to as a person.
24:46
I know that I need to get to a stage where my alone time is my
24:51
sanctuary, and I use my alone time in the most like beneficial
24:58
and the most productive ways possible.
25:00
So I know my alone time. For example, let's say
25:03
theoretically I get one or two hours alone time a day in
25:06
theory, right? How do I use that alone time?
25:08
I might have to spend sometime doing for example, admin or
25:12
housework or this or that, but something to progress and keep
25:15
my day-to-day life working. But then recreationally, what do
25:18
I do? Am I reading, am I learning a
25:20
language? Am I reading about the Quran and
25:22
the the hadith? Am I exploring new avenues of
25:26
knowledge? Because you know, there's
25:28
something very wise. If I'm not mistaken, Sheikh
25:31
Wahid Khurasani, I read something a few days ago which
25:34
was really profound. Sheikh Wahid basically said
25:36
that, and I'm, I'm, again, I'm paraphrasing.
25:39
I don't want to kind of put words in anyone's mouth.
25:42
He basically alluded to the point that life is so short and
25:47
the world of knowledge is so large, you will never, ever,
25:52
ever be able to encompass everything, of course, ever,
25:56
right? Forget even everything.
25:58
Becoming a master at one element of knowledge in itself is like
26:03
nearly impossible. So all you can do is just try
26:05
your best. Even for example, for our Shiuk
26:08
and our Alema, the Allahu award them all.
26:11
For those who are seeking knowledge, a lot of them you'll
26:14
realise will specialise in an area of knowledge because
26:17
they'll know that I can't become a master of everything, right?
26:20
There's only one master of everything who's alive and who's
26:23
our Hajjah like you mentioned? And he's the only one who has
26:25
complete ILMAL haib, as we believe that Shia, the Imams
26:29
have ILML haib. And that is our Imam currently,
26:32
Imam Mithiya Jala to Alafa Sharif, who of course, we
26:35
celebrate his birth in the coming days.
26:37
But as fallible human beings like you and me, bro, we can't
26:40
do that, man. We just do our bit.
26:42
We pick up the book, we read what we can.
26:44
We study how we can. You know, we learn from others.
26:47
I read a hadith earlier as well. I can't, I don't know where I
26:49
read it. I read a hadith earlier today,
26:51
Subhanallah, which was basically talking about the importance of
26:54
seeking knowledge from people and sharing knowledge with
26:57
people, right? So it's, you know, it can't end,
27:01
it can't end. But let's move on bro.
27:02
Because, you know, I'm feeling like a nerd now talking about
27:05
these books. No, it's good, a good reminder.
27:07
It's making me think of how much important, how much we need to
27:09
pursue the knowledge as well. And the more we think we know,
27:12
the more we realize we don't know.
27:14
And that's the beauty of having, for example, the holy earth and
27:16
Beit our mums. Yeah, man, you.
27:18
Know what we we do this thing, yeah.
27:22
If Shah Al Zahidi behind the screen, Zahidi.
27:25
If Zahidi. If Muhammad Zahidi was to ask me
27:28
name me the 2008 Liverpool squad, I'll be able to name it
27:33
for him. Yeah, but if he was to ask me,
27:37
name me your top ten favorite hadith from Al Kafi A proud.
27:42
Struggle. Name me, tell me about the tat
27:45
wheel of the sauras, of the verse in the Quran or a verse
27:48
from this saura. I struggle, bro.
27:51
Do you know what I mean? I think, bro, like I've been
27:53
born into this. I've been raised into this.
27:56
It should be ingrained in me. It should be the blood in my
27:58
veins should be breathing this. But you know, it's not.
28:01
So we need to get to that point. This is all I believe in.
28:06
So yeah, man, back on. Next one.
28:10
Yeah, next one. All right, there's one here.
28:12
It says Salaam Alaikum. Are there shit are denominations
28:15
that don't believe in the Mahdi? Shia denominations that don't
28:21
believe in the Mahdi. There isn't a single Muslim
28:24
sects that can't believe in the Mahdi.
28:27
It's part of it's part of parcel of everyone's belief in that
28:30
there will be an Imam who comes from the lineage of Rasul Allah,
28:34
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi Wali wasallam, named after Rasul
28:37
Allah, who will come back at the end of time, right?
28:39
In fact, not even Islam. There's other religions that
28:41
believe in the Messiah who will return everything but Hamdallah
28:44
in our school for us. He's alive, he's breathing, he's
28:50
we can speak with him, he can listen to us and we can say that
28:54
comfortably because we can bring evidences that all of this
28:58
existed in our in our sect, right?
29:00
But then there comes a question, for example, where is the there
29:03
comes a question, for example, OK, we have a hadith that say he
29:07
may come during this time. Where is he now?
29:09
Is he even born? There are people out there
29:11
question is he even born yet, right?
29:14
There is different, I think, elements when it comes to how
29:18
people see Imam and Mehdi, Ajalata, Allah, Faraja.
29:20
But in the Shiite school of thoughts and all our differences
29:23
of schools when it comes to, for example, Zaidi and all of these
29:26
people, no, we all believe in Imam and Mehdi.
29:30
Am I right? Yeah, am I right?
29:31
Absolutely, absolutely it's. But can I just add one thing
29:35
actually just on the, because the question came to the Shia
29:38
and I, I, I think, I don't know if they were asking it because
29:41
they were trying to see if we can prove that Imam is alive,
29:43
for example. But even if you go back, let's
29:46
say to the Sunni world, the amount of narrations and
29:51
reports, the hadith that back Imam and Mehdi majority come
29:56
from the Sunni world. The Sunni world has more
29:58
literature and reports about the 12th, the 12th Imam more than
30:02
the Shia. Yeah.
30:03
And if you think about it, I'll send you guys back, back, back
30:06
him up more than we we we can, we can come say, but we can, we
30:09
can back out from our own sources and handle out.
30:10
But you have enough out there in your books.
30:13
I saw thousands of heaviest more than we do about Imam and me.
30:16
Let me ask you a question Zaid. When Allah says that always
30:20
going to be a Hajj on earth. Imam and Metti's sister is hakab
30:23
in Yakub. The benefit you gain from me
30:25
during the occultation is like the benefits of some behind the
30:27
clouds. What does that?
30:28
Mean no separation. Yeah, I know.
30:31
But what benefit do I gain, for example, today?
30:36
So I'll tell you what I think. So I think that we believe in
30:38
our I'm. Generally not understanding your
30:40
question. No.
30:40
So for example, in our corpus, we believe that the Imam prays
30:44
for the Ummah and that the Imams Imam is consistently in a state
30:48
of, of guiding the and we can't understand how he does that, but
30:53
his Dar and his existence uplifts and protects the Omar.
30:57
And the Omar, if you're an optimist generally, and if
31:00
you're an optimistic like theologian or whatever, you'll
31:03
believe that the Omar is always like guided towards truth and
31:06
Huck, because it has to prepare itself for a world where the
31:10
Imam comes right, rather than like a more pessimistic point of
31:13
view, which is that almost guided towards falsehood such
31:16
that then the Imam has no choice but to reappear.
31:18
Do you get me? Which I don't believe is the
31:20
case. I'll give you an example.
31:21
If we would say let's, if we would say, if there is no Hajj
31:24
right now, what do we do? Yeah.
31:27
Everyone makes their own rules, everyone interprets their own.
31:30
The fact that there is a system in place and we say I lost upon
31:33
a Matala, you know, the one who created everything in utmost
31:36
perfection and he's not going to leave an Imam for us to guide us
31:41
to the top for us that we maybe not us ourselves.
31:45
It's our high-ranking Olama, our previous predecessors of
31:49
scholars and everyone you tell me they couldn't have a
31:52
relationship, they couldn't ask questions.
31:53
Imam and Mehdi, all of these things, they exist.
31:56
As I said early on, our sins prevent us from reaching him and
31:59
that's our fault. And the fact that we can't see
32:01
the Imam, if I go back to my first point, is that it's a test
32:04
for us, a test us in our belief in Allah's Panama, to Allah
32:08
believe in the system that he left for us.
32:13
Because if I say now, for example, there is no Iman, there
32:16
is no guide, a lot, God forbid, Rasul Allah, you know, left this
32:22
world and never appointed any imams or any Hodges for us.
32:26
Look at the world today. Yeah, look at it's a complete
32:29
mess. It's more.
32:29
Than that as well bro. It's also the fact that Islam
32:31
is. Not you wouldn't know where you
32:33
stand with heart, you wouldn't know where you stand morally,
32:35
wouldn't know where you stand ethically, wouldn't know where
32:37
you stand in all aspects of not just your Dean.
32:41
You know, you know what, I, I, I say, you know, going kind of
32:43
going back to that thing about the differences between Sunni
32:46
Islam and Shia Islam, I really don't want to get cancelled, but
32:49
I'm going to tell you what my honest point of view is.
32:52
I believe it's worth again, Shia Islam does not live in the past.
32:57
I believe Sunni Islam lives in the past.
33:00
Yeah, right. And you can back that.
33:02
Right, because in the point being is that for them after the
33:05
Holy Prophet Muhammad, like you said, there's no yeah, that's
33:07
disfoluble hajah. And you're relying on.
33:10
You know, Tabin or taba? Tabin, but that's it.
33:13
Do you get me? Yeah.
33:14
The first, second and third generations of the companions
33:16
after the Holy. Process.
33:17
I think that's limited just to Salafis, by the way.
33:19
Not even just that bro, the Sahaba and the the Khalafa
33:23
Rashidun and all of that. Like, OK, fine, the early
33:26
generations of Islam are guides, but they're not infallible.
33:29
Khalas. Yeah, Anishinu, what then?
33:32
For example, I think with the Shia, in my humble opinion, the
33:36
Quran tells us learn from history, read the stories that
33:39
cost us right. We know that from the books and
33:42
from our our our holy books. But we're a religion, a belief
33:47
system of the present and the future.
33:49
And that is because of Imam and Mehti.
33:51
Like for example, we live our lives in the present based on
33:57
the world we want to create in the future.
34:00
We believe that the future will hold XY and Z, and because of
34:05
that, we live our lives in the present, the way we believe we
34:08
want the future to look. Do you understand?
34:10
So we're not looking back in the past and limiting it to that.
34:12
We're believing that something in the future is coming.
34:15
We're preparing, actively building towards it.
34:17
We're always talking in our programs about how the world
34:20
should be, how the world should look, what human beings should
34:24
be like, what Muslims should be like, rather than solely just
34:28
saying the humans of the past were like this.
34:31
We need to go back to them days. That is incredibly important.
34:35
And if anything, we we spent time talking about the the need
34:38
for research and knowledge and look learning and so on and so
34:41
forth. But at the same time, it's a
34:42
religion of activism preparation.
34:45
You learn and then you apply. You apply for what purpose you
34:48
apply for the future. You apply for the preparation of
34:51
the Imam. We believe as as Muslims that
34:54
the Allah didn't leave a 1400 year gap, like from 124,000
34:59
prophets beginning of time from Adam to Muhammad.
35:02
You had Ahuja on the earth, you had a guide on the earth, you
35:04
had a Nabi or an or or a Sul on the earth.
35:07
Yeah. And then just randomly, the last
35:09
0.1% of the world's existence, the last one to Allah was like,
35:13
yeah, you guys don't need anything, You're good.
35:15
OK. But knowing all of this, by the
35:16
way, OK, No, what good is there? And if we know, for example,
35:20
Ashiyan Hamdallah, we believe in the Imam.
35:22
Yeah, we believe in his return. We believe that he is the Hajj,
35:27
we believe in all of this, but what is there to gain if we
35:31
don't work towards this reappearance?
35:33
And and I think the conversation can go maybe towards active in
35:36
the interval. But if if you think about it, I
35:40
just want to come back to this whole belief system.
35:42
I kept mentioning believing in Imam Mehdi is believing in the
35:45
unseen. If we come to, for example, Sora
35:49
Talas, this one of the most smallest Soras in the Quran,
35:55
Well, asked in the insan a la ficos a La La Dina.
36:00
Amen. Humanity, mankind.
36:05
Yeah, I mean, they all losers at the end of the day, they're
36:08
going to perish. The doom for failure.
36:11
Except those who believe and do good.
36:16
And believing in the Mehdi is one thing, doing good.
36:22
It's not here. It's something beautiful.
36:24
And where do we find ourselves between those?
36:26
There's a really good lecture on this Ella Lavina Amnuwa amnu
36:31
Soil Heart, What to ask about Hakka What to ask about on that
36:34
verse by Sheikh Khalil Jafar, which I'd highly recommend
36:38
people to listen to. I can't remember the name on it
36:41
online, but that switched my whole narrative.
36:44
Yeah, because that's not just about believing in a, it's too
36:46
believing in the entire world of 1 scene.
36:49
Yeah and it's a 2 prong thing bro.
36:51
Belief and action. Yeah, well, what is Islam if
36:53
Islam is not belief in action? Like there are those guys online
36:57
on Twitter, you know, these Twitter nerds, like they will
36:59
just throw hadith and brother this and like always, what's the
37:03
word? There's a word for it.
37:04
Like they're always trying to like just preaching online Haram
37:07
police and all those kind of guys.
37:09
They're just, they're just there.
37:11
That one Bros. That one Bros bro, it's just
37:13
like belief, belief, belief, belief bro.
37:15
Where's your action bro? Where's your clubs?
37:17
Yeah bro. Like there's you can tell that
37:18
there's a lack of sincerity with these things in it.
37:20
It's a 2 pronged. It's a 2 sided thing.
37:22
Shaharat Al Madan is coming up. We know this, we believe and we
37:26
act Ramadan, we believe in Ramadan, we believe in the last
37:30
one to Allah, we believe in the revelation of Quran, but we act
37:33
in Rob Shahramadhan so that we are cleansing our soul.
37:36
Do you know what I mean? Preparing our souls, doing the
37:39
right things, starting, starting the right things, stopping the
37:41
wrong things like these are important things for us.
37:43
But I think that's that is what the the mission of the Holy Imam
37:47
Alay Salaam is. It's belief like you said in the
37:50
unseen, in the final tech leaf, the promised final, the final
37:56
promise of Allah spawn to Allah for this Omar and for this
37:59
mankind. And then it's action towards it,
38:02
making sure that when we when the the hoard happens, we're on
38:05
the right team. Do you know what I mean?
38:07
That's the hard part, Charlotte. We're Good Charlotte.
38:09
God willing. The rising dawn is.
38:12
Coming, that's all. As you're saying this, I'm
38:14
thinking in my head like there is so much that we got to think
38:17
about and do inshallah and work out towards actively prepare the
38:21
ground. It is Wednesday night, yeah.
38:24
It is Wednesday night. I know I dragged you from bed.
38:26
La La, listen, what's your next before the event on Sunday?
38:30
What's the next four days looking like for you?
38:32
Oh, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 3 days.
38:35
So we've got 2 working days and one weekend.
38:38
However, the week never ends so off.
38:42
Sounds like a poem. I think the next few days is
38:45
going to be very tough for everyone behind the scenes
38:46
preparing the event and getting things in order, logistically
38:49
preparing A-Z. Yeah.
38:52
And from everything. And I just asked at Handler, we
38:53
have a big group of volunteers. Well, great, amazing work,
38:57
amazing job. And I just want to say to
38:59
everyone who's bought a ticket already.
39:01
Thank you, man. Yeah, like I like genuinely I'm
39:04
I'm, I'm really genuinely looking.
39:06
I think we all are looking forward to seeing you there.
39:08
It's. Moving.
39:09
Together I've got one roof. Mini and Mormon are celebrating.
39:12
Flying in for the event. Yeah, there's people who have
39:15
contacted. Us from the airports.
39:16
From the US, from frontline, there's a brother who's flowing
39:19
flown in from the US just for the event and he's not on stage.
39:22
He's like he's come for the event.
39:24
So panel are like it's it's amazing.
39:26
And I just want to say on on record.
39:28
I believe he's sitting in row A, by the way.
39:31
As well. Yeah, shout out him for the
39:35
record before this comes out, we apologise in advance for
39:38
anything. I really mean this.
39:39
So if we do anything on stage or off stage, if our team or
39:43
anything, the venue, the seeing whatever, anything like, you
39:47
know, however it goes, inshallah, forgive us because
39:49
our intentions are pure and we want it to go well inshallah.
39:52
And we recognise that not everyone who's listening, in
39:54
fact the majority of people listening won't be there because
39:57
Handed Loud, the podcast is a like has a global audience.
40:00
And this is in in just in London, hopefully in Charlotte
40:04
at some point. We'll be able to come to a city
40:06
near you, inshallah. So look, pray for us, forgive us
40:10
in advance for any shortcomings and we look forward to seeing
40:14
you there. Make sure you smash that
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subscribe button. Can I say one sentence on I've
40:19
been I was I was thinking where do I fit this today?
40:21
I've said there's so much times in the group.
40:23
This is not any events, this is an aftermarket production came
40:29
out. Jesus thing, you know, a guy
40:31
came up to me the other day, a guy came up to me the other day.
40:34
He's like or and vibes and blah blah blah.
40:38
People. I don't even remember the words
40:40
just. Dropping by I.
40:41
Don't even remember the words I said.
40:42
Yeah. Alright guys, shout out to say.
40:44
What's the boss say? Muhammad and Muhammad Zaidi.
40:46
Why not here next week? Love you guys.
40:47
We'll see you. We're not here next week.
40:48
Episode next week so. Make sure you hit the
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notification bell so you know when we're back.
40:52
Charlotte. Well.
40:53
I'm not alive. I can't.