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They're All Bad Candidates, Right? · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show. Wednesday morning, tenth to
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day of July. I'm Wes, Thanks for joining me. We'll talk a
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little bit about where things are and where things have been in the last several
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elections when it concerns candidates for president. And I think we've all been guilty
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of what I'm about to say in some way shape form. I think that
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it's there. I think it's just kind of easy to fall into this mindset.
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And I'm not saying that it's not valid to some degree, but I
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think it's worth discussing. At the very least. We're at a specific point
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in time right now, as we're in this stretch of Trump is, you
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know, getting ready to at the convention next week, except the nomination he'll
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name is a VP pick and all that stuff, and then we have a
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month that'll pass and then we find out whatever is going to happen with the
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Democratic ticket. We know that the president says he's not going anywhere. We
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know that his wife is doing a lot of campaigning for them. There's a
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few others that are doing it too. And I didn't mention it yesterday,
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but you know, a couple of days ago, the First Lady was in
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Columbus briefly at the airport, doing a quick campaign stop, popping around to
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a few places. It was interesting that they did a stop in Florida.
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I think for the most part, I appreciate that they're doing it, and
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I think it's interesting that, you know, we've heard some folks say,
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wasn't it bold that Trump stopped and you know, went to you know,
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Pennsylvania and he went to well, Pennsylvania is still a battleground, but its
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Philadelphia, I guess, is where he was. And they said, I
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can't believe he went there. And he went into uh, you know,
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the Bronx and did a campaign a visit and and or a stop, you
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know, and people said, oh my gosh, he's uh, you know,
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bold of him to do that where you know, Democrats are going,
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what is he doing? What a chump? He can't win in those cities?
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What is he doing? Uh? Or in those areas specific? So
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then you got, uh, you know, the Biden campaign has basically said
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they're not going to win Florida. They know they're not going to win Florida.
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Florida has uh, you know, once upon a time that was a
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purple state and it's now very solidly read. Uh, there's not an expectation
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of them winning Florida, and then for them to go in and campaign.
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First of all, I thought it was dumb for Trump to to go into
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areas he's not going to win, so why But at the same time,
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you know some are going, oh, it's bold, they need to go
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down there, and I tend to agree with that. I think you should
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go to places even when you don't think you're gonna win. I know that
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there's only a certain amount of time that you have to campaign, but the
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idea that the job is, you know, you're running for president of the
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United States. You're not running for president of blue states or for red states.
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The difference is Trump went to the places. He didn't send his wife
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to do it. And I'm not discounting sending out surrogates on your behalf.
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That's part of this whole process. Trump has a number of people that are
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certainly jocking for that VP gig, that are out for him. But anyway,
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so this whole concept of Biden horrible, of debate horrible, set of
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interviews. He's been horrible for a while. This silly notion that all of
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a sudden, now he's a bad candidate is absurd. We know that anybody
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who's been paying attention, anybody who was paying attention during the previous election four
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years ago, he wasn't battle tested. I mean he had been battle tested
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in a different life. He wasn't battle tested. He wasn't asked to go
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out and campaign, he wasn't asked to debate, he wasn't asked to do
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not the normal debate cycle, I should say, because it's just like there
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was no real anything this time. There's no primaries this time, so he's
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missed out on a lot of normally what happens when you're running for office.
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Now, I understand he is an incumbent president. He should be the nominee
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by all accounts, if he's in fact capable of doing the job. I
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still maintain I don't think that some Republicans, some more conservative news media,
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they're not doing themselves any favor by trying to push Biden out of the way,
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because I do think Trump has a very distinct advantage if it remains Biden.
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I don't necessarily think Harris is a great candidate. It would almost certainly
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have to be her if Biden steps aside, but all that to be determined.
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What I want to point out, though, is that we have now
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again, and this is where we're getting back to what I was talking about
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that I've been guilty of. I didn't think that the Clinton Trump election year.
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I felt like there was a strong part of me that's like, this
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is the best we can do. This is the best we can put forward
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as far as candidates. I didn't have high expectations for Trump to be honest,
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you know, and I've talked about this many times. I was never
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a never Trumper. That wasn't me, But I was certainly skeptical about what
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he was going to do when he got into office. And ultimately what he
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did was, you know, everything he said he was going to do.
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For the most part, it was like in the first you know, one
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hundred days, it was like, how many of these things can we get
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done? And get done right away? Because this is what I got elected
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to do. Did the wall get finished? Know? Was that his fault?
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You know? Some people said he could have done more. I don't
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know. I don't know all of that I just know that there were a
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lot of very positive things that he did right out of the gate, that
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he promised and I didn't know as a candidate if that's what he was going
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to do. I don't care for Hillary Clinton. And it's not because Hillary's
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a woman. It's not because I don't know a number of reasons that people
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would just jump in and say, oh, well, you're just saying it.
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Because my issues with Hillary Clinton go more into I mean, I think
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we needed to have certain questions answered about her marriage, about her role and
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you know, in the Clinton machine, what her role was discounting some of
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the accusers of her husband. I think those were questions that should have been
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asked. Was she wanted And by all accounts, the stories are she was
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sort of the one that went after the women that accused him. So I
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think that's a bad candidate for women. I think that's a bad look period.
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I understand she went from first lady to let's check some boxes that make
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me seem to be a more qualified candidate, and just didn't buy into it.
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Just like the vice president. I don't buy into her as a candidate,
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not for qualifications. Now, you don't have to be quote unquote qualified.
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There's not a list of things you have to do. Donald Trump's a
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businessman before he got in there. And you go back to the early days,
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you know, the original the founders that became presidents. You know,
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they were some of them soldiers, some of them lawyers. It wasn't like
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they walked in and were like, hey, I have a long history of
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being president. That's not you know, the qualify vacations were never specifically laid
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out other than you got to be thirty five plus, you got to be
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born here. Other than that, yeah, that's about it. You gotta
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be a citizen, a citizen at birth. That's probably the better way to
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say it, because a lot of people confuse that. They think, oh,
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if somebody was born, you know, to Americans in another country,
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that makes them not they weren't born here, And that's not the way that
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works. But anyway, it's why the whole birth certificate thing about Obama was
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really dumb. He had citizenship just by having an American mother. That was
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it didn't matter, you know the people that was he really born in Hawaii
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or not, it doesn't matter, doesn't matter. His mom was an American,
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that made him an American that was over. Discussion was finished at that
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point. But anyway, we went through all that with Ted Cruz too.
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So but I think that, you know, if you look into Kamala Harris's
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past, you look into how she got some of the jobs that she had
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early on, and I know you're not supposed to point these things out,
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but I think these are things that should be questioned at the very least if
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she were the candidate. So I looked at the Trump and Clinton race and
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I said, this is the best we can do. This is really the
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best we can do. And I have said in the past, you know,
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we we of our last five presidents, counting the one in there now,
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sixty percent of them at best have someone who has accused them of some
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sort of inappropriate sexual advance or contact. At best, at worst, you
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know, raped five or six people, right. I mean, that's what
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we're looking at for sixty percent of our last five presidents. Obama and Bush
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the two that you know, I don't know of any accusers for either one
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of them, but the other three they've had, you know, some sort
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of accusation. They've had some you know, an accusation of rape, an
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accusation of multiple rapes, an accusation of inappropriate conduct or contact, or you
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know, that's sixty percent three of the last five. And I look at
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that and you just kind of go, this is not a good place for
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us to be in. It's not it's not where we want to be.
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And by the way, two of those three, you know, currently the
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two likely candidates right now, and they were last time. I'm not saying
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that the accusations are true. I'm not saying we don't know. We don't
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know. Biden's main accusation against him, you know, sealed records on that
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one, and he was asked a number of times would you unseal those so
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we can see exactly what it was. Ah, those are sealed. Somebody
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decided to seal those, so you can't really dive into that. Trump's We've
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heard about Trump's, you hear about those, You hear about those as much
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as you could possibly hear about them. And then they, you know,
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have hearings so that they can bring porn stars up to make extra vague,
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quasi accusations about him. But anyway, with that said, right now,
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this is the condition that we're in with this and last election, I thought
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you know, I would have been certainly happy to keep Trump in for four
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more years so he could keep doing what he was doing for our economy and
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an opportunity to improve things post COVID. We didn't get that. So here
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we are, and people are doing the same like, oh, these are
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the same two candidates. Here we go again, and right now. That
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has started to really fill the echo chamber, right because we're in a position
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where you have people that don't like Trump and they're realizing that it can be
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Biden. So what are they doing. They're venting their frustration with everything by
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saying, really, this is the best we can do. These two candidates.
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It's two old guys. They're very different old guys, by the way,
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one of them really struggling. The other one seems exactly the same he
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was as he was in twenty sixteen, no changes in you know a little
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bit in the appearance. But in eight years he's still the same, just
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as sharp as he was, He's you know, all the things. You
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may hate him. But as far as saying that they're just two old guys,
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they're different. They're different old guys. It's not the same kind of
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old Okay, let's just be honest about that. And if you're not happy
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with who your option is on the left, that's the problem. You can
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say, well, how do we get stuck with these two? That's what
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people say when they don't like, they really don't like the one that they
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know they probably should vote for. So what constitutes a bad candidate. There's
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a few things that could constitute a bad candidate. But I'd like to make
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this point because every single potential Republican nominee that I can remember, I guess
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you'd have to go back, maybe and I wasn't paying as much attention to
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it. Maybe not since you know eight, that was probably the first election
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where I was really zeroed in on the things that were being said. But
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going back to two thousand and eight, think about the candidates that were running
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for president then and what was said about them. Mike Huckabee was just too
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religious, Just a religious guy. Can't be Mike Huckabee. He's dangerous because
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he's so religious. John McCain he's not. Oh, he can't go with
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that guy. He's terrible, and you know he gets the nomination. They
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said all sorts of things about McCain and how he couldn't be trusted, and
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he wasn't the guy. Now when he passed away and he started to say
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bad things before he died about Trump, he became the darling of the left.
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Same for Mitt Romney. But remember they attacked Mitt Romney. He put
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his dog in a crate and put it on top of the car many many
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years ago. And you know, made that comment about folders full of women
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or whatever. He said, Oh he's dangerous, Ron Paul, that guy's
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a quack. Can't go with Ron Paul. Can't do that at all.
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It kind of ramped up a little bit more when we got to twenty twelve
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because in that case, that's when some of the more personal attacks came.
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We had Rick Santorum who was just too religious, Newt Gingrich, all that
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stuff that wasn't really true, the way that they tried to spin the Sesame
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Street stuff. Remember he tried to cancel Sesame Street. He still had Mitt
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Romney in there, still had Ron Paul in there. And you know that's
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when things started to come. I mean, we were still already doing it,
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but all of these people were labeled dangerous. They were all dangerous according
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to people on the left. Remember that, then we got to twenty sixteen,
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and that's where things started to kick up another notch because it was things
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like Ted Cruz is a serial killer. That was a running joke, Ted
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Cruz is a serial Okay. Some of this, by the way, was
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from Trump, and I think this was an interesting side note on all this.
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There were personal attacks on John Kasich. There was a tax on Marco
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Rubio, Ben Carson, Oh he's so dumb, What a dummy. Jeb
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Bush is dangerous because he's part of that family. We also had who are
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some of the Oh Bobby Gendall, Oh, you can't go with Bobby Jendall.
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They were really afraid of Bobby Jendall, but he dropped out kind of
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early and all that. Carly Fiorina, she's not qualified for the job.
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Santorum was still there. We had that whole situation. Remember Michelle Bachman when
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people thought she might run for president and she was going to be a candidate,
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and they said, oh, she's crazy eyes. They went after her
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in a way that you normally wouldn't go after a woman. You wouldn't get
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away with going after a woman if she was on the left. It's a
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whole different double standard. But think about it leading into this cycle when they
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said, okay, well who are the nominees potential nominees going to be?
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And we had the pool of Republicans that was in there and the one that
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they were and at first the thought of Nicki Haley, they said, oh,
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well, you know that might be uh you know she Oh no,
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Nicky Haley, boy she is She's out there. Man, she says some
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crazy stuff. Until they got to a point where they thought, man,
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maybe Nicky Haley could actually get the nomination instead of Trump, and they stopped
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attacking her. She wasn't the worst candidate in the world, but the two
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that were the worst in the world, and I've talked about this before,
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were Trump and DeSantis. Trump is the worst. The only one worse than
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Trump is DeSantis. That's what they said for a while. Trump is the
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worst. I don't know that they understand how worst works or best works,
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but to say he's the worst and that there's someone who is worse, I
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don't think they understand that at all. I heard that from a few places.
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I actually saw that written in an article and I thought, I know,
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this person thinks they're being clever with it, but it sounds really stupid,
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But you start running through some of these can Now the right has done
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similar things, but there are some candidates on the left that have been worse
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than others. But you can't just throw the blanket out and say they're all
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terrible because they're Republicans, or they're all terrible because they're Democrats. I understand,
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we have allegiances to certain philosophies and we want to vote for people.
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But the name calling and the Nazi calling, that's where really it's not even
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name calling anymore when it's Nazi calling, is it. When you start making
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these veiled accusations about things, and you're trying to question their past or you're
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trying to question something that maybe happened or didn't happen, and we don't know
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for sure, all those sorts of things, and you get to the point
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where you say they're all dangerous, they're all crazy. There's no candidate that
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Republicans could have nominated this time that the left wouldn't have eventually called crazy and
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dangerous. They all would have been a threat to the democracy. See,
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it's easy to say Trump is a threat to the democracy because they have a
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series of narratives that they've spun already and they can say he's dangerous, he's
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horrible. But do you honestly think that if Nikki Haley had been the candidate,
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they wouldn't be saying this about her. Do you honestly think that Ron
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DeSantis, they wouldn't have run the Oh he's worse than Trump. Any of
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them would have been worse than Trump, any of them. If Trump wasn't
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the candidate, they would have said, Oh, Vivek Ramaswami, he's dangerous.
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Oh you can't trust that guy. Really, why not? He's a
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threat to the democracy, That's what he is. It's true with all of
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them, they all would be a threat to the democracy. That there was
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a way to put people on a line detector and say somebody from the party
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you don't normally vote for, who's the candidate that you should be least afraid
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of, who's the one that you should be least afraid, And that have
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people have to admit that there's somebody on the other side that maybe they would
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consider voting for. I'll tell you right now, if Tulci Gabbart had stayed
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around, I like Tulci Gabberts as a even as a Democrat, I know
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she's become more enlightened and she doesn't identify as a Democrat anymore. And I
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know she's one of those names that got thrown around for a while. Oh
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maybe Trump's gonna picked Tulci Gabbard. Is that even still a chance? Is
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that a possibility? That would be nuts, wouldn't it? It'd be wild?
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But I would have voted for I mean I would have considered it.
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I mean, if she had, you know, actually done some more conservative
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things, I wouldn't have ruled her out. If I didn't like the Republican
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nominee, I wouldn't have ruled her out. Wouldn't have thought, oh she's
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dangerous. I would have liked the eye idea of having Can you imagine if
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we had had, you know, years ago, if we didn't have an
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incumbent, and we had a situation where you had Tulsi Gabbard running against like
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a Marco Rubio right. I mean, it's not exactly radical in either extreme.
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And I understand that some people would say I'd like more right than Marco
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Rubio, or I like more left than Tulsi Gabberd. But maybe what we
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needed. But anyway, that's another discussion for another time. My point is
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they're not all dangerous, they're not all evil, they're not all Hitler,
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they're not all the worst person in the world. But you can guarantee this
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Trump is only those things because he's the nominee. And if someone else had
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become the nominee on the Republican side, they would be all of these things.
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They would be the threat to democracy. They would be the ones that
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are going to come in and add more conservatives to the Supreme Court, and
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they're going to be the ones that are going to do all They're gonna make
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sure that abortions are not readily available up until, you know, three months
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after the kids born. All of those things. It would have been whoever
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somebody who is. Maybe I don't know. But Christmas in July rolling on
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anything like Christmas. It's not. It's just the way it is, unless,
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of course, you know, like my wife who's Australian now American but
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born there and spent most many, many Christmases in Australia, feels like Christmas.
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To her. I've done at least one hot Australian Christmas. It didn't
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feel like Christmas. Then had a great time. We went to the beach,
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at the top. South Burlington, Vermont, Fargo, North Dakota. That
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seems like a good pick, Lincoln, Nebraska, Bismarck, Northtaka. There's
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a lot of Dakota's in here. Sue Falls is in here anyway. As
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far as least amount of stress. Interesting that we have a California, but
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it's Fremont, California. It's not like it's you know where a lot of
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the issues, I mean, the taxes, I'm sure are probably there,
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But I don't know a lot about Fremont. All right. When you think
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of pizza, you probably think of some of the popular chains. Well,
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do you know what the largest pizza chain in America is? No, it's
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not Domino's or Pizza Hut. It's not Papa John's or Little Caesars. It's
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actually Hunt Brothers over nine thousand locations across the country, making it the largest
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pizza chain. So you know you see them in gas stations or convenience stores,
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or you know, right there you can get your Hunt Brother's pizza.
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They've got over nine thousand locations. That's the biggest pizza chain in the country.
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I think I might have gotten there if this was presented to me,
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and I know I didn't give you much time to think about it, but
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I think I might have gotten there. But the second most locations, this
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is what's interesting, over nine thousand for them, just shy of seven thousand
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for Dominoes at sixty nine twenty nine, and then Pizza Huts at sixty seven
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to seventy five. So that's the second and third largest based on number of
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locations. Obviously, that's not necessarily on number of pizza sold or any of
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those things. That's just on locations where you can get them. All right,
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how about this. You've probably been in this scenario where you've been at
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the airport, you get some kind of a notification that a lights delayed because
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of weather, and then you look and you're like, the weather's fine,
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what's going on there? And you know, if you're a veteran flyer,
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you know it's got something to do with whether at your next destination or somewhere
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in the flight path. Well. United Airlines says that confusion and frustration is
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real, and they're working on real time weather maps that they can send to
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passengers to explain the delays. Passengers will receive texts and emails with links to
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live weather maps showing the conditions affecting their flight. United's chief information officer says,
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we know customers appreciate transparency, and by combining innovative technology enabled tools with
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people power, we can give more people, even more in the moment details
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about their flight. I think that's good. Less stressed passengers and customers is
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a good thing. And then if they're going to Cleveland, they're not bringing
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stress with them, they can just absorb some of that Cleveland stress. Apparently
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that's just the whole town is riddled with it. In Cleveland rocks right.
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