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INTERVIEW: Andrew Schulz Talks 'Life' Comedy Special, IVF Experience, Cancel Culture, Trump, KDot + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. Law La Rosa, it's here,
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  Speaker 3: and we got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 4: Hell Ky Walker.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Andrews Shows.
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  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going.
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  Speaker 5: How you feeling?
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  Speaker 4: I feel good, man.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's crazy. I was talking to Charlemagne about
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  Speaker 3: you yesterday. I was like, we've been doing the Breakfast
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: Club so long. We got a real opportunity to see
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  Speaker 3: different people grow and and you were one of them.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I remember andrew Shows starting off, and
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  Speaker 3: in the fact I seen a couple of months ago
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  Speaker 3: that you were. You sold out the Garden a couple
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  Speaker 3: of times and had your dad with you, so light work.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I was like, so how does that feel that girlfriend?
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  Speaker 3: We actually seen the grind, so people can't just say
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  Speaker 3: it was overnight because it's white.
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  Speaker 5: No, we actually seen the grind.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was it was a while. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the first time I came to the Breakfast Club. I
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  Speaker 1: think Charlomagne walked out there five minutes. I was so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, come on show you. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, yah, I got you, bro. He comes and
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  Speaker 1: he starts to show you. I got my man showleds here.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll take it away, and then he just left.
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  Speaker 4: But it was still a great interview.
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  Speaker 2: With this one. I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna talk,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm like, I'm more interested.
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  Speaker 1: To hear what Lauren.
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  Speaker 4: And that was my guy.
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  Speaker 6: I was telling my friend. I was like, it was like,
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  Speaker 6: what that's trying to make Homie? I said, I promise
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  Speaker 6: you he's gonna be like, I'm not going to talk.
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  Speaker 6: I want to hear what y'all have to Because I.
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  Speaker 2: Talked, I know what he thinks about things, but I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk every week. Yes, I'm more interested to
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  Speaker 2: here with with.
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  Speaker 1: You'll think he's gonna chime in. You'll see once he
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  Speaker 1: gets a little spicy, he gets a little spicy, he'll
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  Speaker 1: be in there.
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  Speaker 5: So I want.
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  Speaker 1: I want to tell man, you had all of us
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  Speaker 1: thinking that that poor girl's family died. Yeah, portion Williams,
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  Speaker 1: I was terrifying. He's looking at this note and then
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  Speaker 1: I see her looking at the note and then I'm like, Damn,
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  Speaker 1: somebody died and the only thing I'm thinking is is
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  Speaker 1: she gonna stop the interview? You know what I mean, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's this moment where you're like, does she care so
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  Speaker 1: much about fame? She's like, well, they already dead. They
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  Speaker 1: ain't gonna be bored.
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  Speaker 6: She started to get teary eye, and the way she
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  Speaker 6: looked at her sister, I thought somebody died too. And
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, ship, all I was saying, is weird getting exclusive?
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  Speaker 2: She works.
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  Speaker 6: Like major exclusive right here that I'm like, let me
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  Speaker 6: see what it said because I need to anchor in
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  Speaker 6: his headline. But see after TMV brain from Yeah and
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  Speaker 6: I'm so bad and I love sorry for not gonna
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  Speaker 6: no everybody's good, I said, I.
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  Speaker 5: Know Charlamage, even though he's an asshole.
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  Speaker 3: If that would happen, he would have stopped the interview and
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  Speaker 3: be like, hey, I need you to outside. I know
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  Speaker 3: him for that that. I knew it would have been
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  Speaker 3: some type of joke. I just don't know how far
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  Speaker 3: he was gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: You know, It's funny when Schor walked in, Shultz looked
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  Speaker 2: at that couch and he was like, Yo, that's the
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  Speaker 2: whole couch, big d.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know. Now the couches the I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: remember we were on Brilliant Idiots when we first saw
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  Speaker 1: that and uh yo, oh my god, and said, uh so,
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  Speaker 1: why is she called the lift? She should you know
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  Speaker 1: she why didn't she call a she called a forklift?
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  Speaker 2: And uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then she came on. It was really funny, like
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  Speaker 1: I was watching the episode and she's quite endearing. She's
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  Speaker 1: just like really really endearing voice. But when you guys
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  Speaker 1: moved the couch up and I walked in, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's the famous couch and I didn't know that there
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  Speaker 1: are three pieces one part semi circle out, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: we pulled the whole thing up. Yeah, she filled that
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  Speaker 1: thing out. There's no way she's making into Hanna Civic,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's no way.
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  Speaker 6: She said she could get into PC Cruiser.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, maybe God bless her.
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, with this day and age with comedy, right,
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  Speaker 3: we've recently seen Damian Waye say he's not going back
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  Speaker 3: on the road because they will cancel you for everything.
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  Speaker 3: But you are somebody that don't give a f what
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  Speaker 3: you say, what people think, and why is that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know, that's a good. That's a good Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't really care, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that the days of canceling or done like I
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  Speaker 1: think I think it's changed, which I think they kind
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  Speaker 1: of like pendulum is swung, and I think people kind
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  Speaker 1: of have a sense of humor now or they feel
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  Speaker 1: like less effective and there's their ability to cancel.
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  Speaker 2: I think you don't care because you do what could
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  Speaker 2: have been a hail Mary, or it could have been
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  Speaker 2: a well coordinated play. It turned out to be a
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  Speaker 2: well quarter because when Hollywood there was a period and
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  Speaker 2: I remember this vividly. One time Andrew comes in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: And Andrew was saying how his agent told him that
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood does not want white straight.
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  Speaker 5: No, they tried to gave me white straight male.
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  Speaker 1: So they gave me, they gave you, They gave me.
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  Speaker 6: Every day with me to try dating.
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  Speaker 1: They gave me and they made my character gay film. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was say what, go ahead, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 6: Because you know it's always been that thing of like
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  Speaker 6: that happens to black men, and that's how you.
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's just like that's just like the lowest hanging through.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the dress ship is is about being gay.
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  Speaker 1: I just think that, like it's it's white people writing
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  Speaker 1: scripts that like don't have any friends that aren't white.
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  Speaker 1: So then when they see black people, they see masculinity, right,
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  Speaker 1: like this is there, like like what is it? Unconscious
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  Speaker 1: like bias? Right, So they see black dudes like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's the most masculine thing. So like, what's the funniest
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  Speaker 1: thing to see the most mascul masculin thing in a dress?
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  Speaker 1: Like to see the rock and a dress is funny,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's really it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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  Speaker 1: I think they did it to him too, because you
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  Speaker 1: just see this big, buff guy in a dress. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they I remember the guy who I remember the guy
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  Speaker 1: who it was his show. He put me in the
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  Speaker 1: show Paul Riser. Remember Paul Riser? He I mean he
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  Speaker 1: was making a million dollars an episode on his show
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  Speaker 1: on sitcom back in the day. You remember the fuck
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He was like one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sitcoms starts. He's a great guy, and we were doing
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  Speaker 1: the show I think it ended up on Hulu and
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  Speaker 1: he called me. He's like, listen, man, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of white people on the show. It took
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  Speaker 1: place in the seventies. It was about the Johnny Carson Show.
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  Speaker 1: He's like two weeks before you start feeling. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: hey man, we gotta make a character gay. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what do you what do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 5: He's how.
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  Speaker 1: This is before this before Yeah, so I was he
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  Speaker 1: was like how. I was like, how gay? And he's, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's I was like, why do we have to make
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  Speaker 1: it gay. He's like, it's just a lot of white
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  Speaker 1: people on the shows. We got to find a way
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  Speaker 1: to mix it up. They made one guy crippled. That
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  Speaker 1: was the most hilarious. I don't know, but it was
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  Speaker 1: like they couldn't make us all gay, so like one
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  Speaker 1: guy gotta be crippled.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, why don't.
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  Speaker 1: You ask I better be limping around this ship than butt,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so and so guy so so yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: they made it was crazy, like I had to change
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  Speaker 1: one of the scripts. It was to one of the guys.
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  Speaker 5: It got too gay.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to get gang bangs like they they had,
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  Speaker 1: so they had like this one script. I got it
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  Speaker 1: on the day. They're like, yea, it'd be really funny
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  Speaker 1: if you were like walking into this room. There's three
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  Speaker 1: guys behind you, and I was like, man, let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you what's not y'all taking this daship too far?
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  Speaker 6: I want you to get the train.
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  Speaker 1: It was and it was like in the seventies or
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  Speaker 1: like it was like aids, you know what. I like,
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  Speaker 1: there was no protection for that ship and now we
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  Speaker 1: got three different guys ballow me into a bedroom.
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  Speaker 2: So that was in the script.
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  Speaker 1: But I was in the script and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't doing that ship.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, so what did you do?
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  Speaker 1: There's a scene where apparently now like my hands are
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  Speaker 1: on the wall, and then like Johnny, yeah, but nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't do anything. But the audience is gay for
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  Speaker 1: thinking about it, y'all. I don't my hands on the wall.
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  Speaker 2: But all I was simply saying was there was a
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  Speaker 2: point where Andrew was like, look, I'm gonna go out
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  Speaker 2: on my own terms.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So if everybody's going this way, I'm gonna make the
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  Speaker 2: kind of comedy I wanted me and if it works,
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  Speaker 2: it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: But it ended up working. I did.
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  Speaker 1: My thing was like I saw a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: kind of watering down their shit for what the TV
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  Speaker 1: networks were putting on. And I got empathy for the
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  Speaker 1: people that work at the networks too, Like you got
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: a kid who's in private school, you want to build
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  Speaker 1: a pool at your house or whatever. You're not trying
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  Speaker 1: to lose your job because I want to make some
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  Speaker 1: crazy joke. So but it felt water down, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to change the comedy. So I was like,
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: where can I put out the comedy? And honestly, like
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: having the pod with Charlott Mane and we're putting out
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: like brilliant idiot stuff and we're saying crazy jokes and
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: like people really seem to like it, And I was like,
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: I think there's an appetite for this shit online. I
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: saw your Guys' success, Like just seeing your Guys show
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  Speaker 1: kill It on YouTube, it just kind of reminded me
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  Speaker 1: like people are consuming stuff on YouTube, They're consuming high
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  Speaker 1: quality content long form. You know what if we just
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: started putting a stand about there, and I think knowing
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: that there was this place for it made me feel
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: way more confident. I didn't really care if it was
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  Speaker 1: like on a network. I just wanted to do the comedy.
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  Speaker 1: I want to do it and then it worked.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that was risky because you was giving away your
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: bread and butter though, because you're giving up parts of
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  Speaker 2: your stand up special.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. But at the same time, it's
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  Speaker 1: like I was writing so much, you know, back then,
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: because I had to go back to the same markets
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: every single year. I had to go back to all
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  Speaker 1: many every single year. So I didn't want to do
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  Speaker 1: the same jokes from last year, you know, like people
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: like that's something like early on, I was like, I'm
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: not gonna waste people's money, you know, every tour. I
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: was like, people work hard, they got to get a babysitter,
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: like they got it's a whole night, it's dinner. It's
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: expensive to come out to a show. So I was like,
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: this got to be the best show that they see.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: At least we had attempt to make it. So I
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: would have a new set, and then what was I
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: doing for the old set? And I put that ship
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  Speaker 1: out there, and like the jokes would start to go
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  Speaker 1: over and I was saying, some wild ship and.
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: You pissed a lot of people off, and you ever
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: got threatened? Yeah, I think Diddy, but you you would
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of people.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Were thinking about when he said that, when you hear
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: that name, what comes out? Like, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: the baby behind behind you? I love how much you
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  Speaker 1: guys to embraced white boyfriend.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: It makes me.
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  Speaker 1: So happy, Like that's a white boy you guys are
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  Speaker 1: you guys are the black pioneers A white boyfriend like
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  Speaker 1: I feel and you know what you know and the
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  Speaker 1: way he goes too far like you know, white boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: is no, I'm please, just like straight guys making gay
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  Speaker 1: jokes with each other.
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  Speaker 6: Oh okay, that my old job. Yeah that is very
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  Speaker 6: white exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just call that gay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we call white boyfriend because it's not gay. It's
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  Speaker 1: two straight guys doing it, okay, yeah, but once there's
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: a gay guy involved, then it becomes gay.
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  Speaker 6: No, So the white boyfriend I experienced at my last job,
• 10:34
  Speaker 6: there would be a gay guy involved and it still
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  Speaker 6: was just oh, this is a great this is fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, but that's what they said in the office.
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  Speaker 1: But when they left, they were like, yo, they're gay
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  Speaker 1: for doing that.
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  Speaker 5: Ship.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that's yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It was my first time seeing it. I was like wow,
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  Speaker 6: and you didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Know what to think, right, yeah. Yeah, so this is
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: like classic you know when white dudes hang out that
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: it's all gay jokes. Okay and Mexican shout of Mexican.
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  Speaker 1: Mexican got good.
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  Speaker 2: Gay Oh few definitely got Remember on training day with
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  Speaker 2: a dude was like, you've had your ship pushed in?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that seemed like rape.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he was joking about that is
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: like a I didn't understand why we wanted that.
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  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you want him to go go get an animal, bro?
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah you want to clean that out, know? So okay,
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: so Mexican gay jokes. No, they never want to eat
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  Speaker 1: the corn a long way.
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  Speaker 3: That usually you know, you haven't seen a dude the
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  Speaker 3: long way.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Finished my shot.
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  Speaker 3: When I was asking have you got threatened to a
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: point where he was like I got a chill out
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: because you anybody anyhow I got I got punched on stage.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I used to get thrown at me.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: Fight uh not I mean box.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to box like I wasn't like but
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not like something like trying to fight everybody tough
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  Speaker 1: guy at all.
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  Speaker 6: But box and plates.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah there you go.
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  Speaker 4: That's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're organized and we're in a ring, I'll
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  Speaker 1: probably fuck you up from the street and ship. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to go do all that, but
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I used to go through through that
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff all the time, but I just wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really funny enough back then. That's the way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you have the ideas, you just don't got the
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  Speaker 1: skills to execute it. It's not silly enough yet. And
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: then eventually I think you could develop the skills and
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: then you could say even wilder jokes but in a
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  Speaker 1: way where people find it kind of funny and sow,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: that's something I.
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  Speaker 2: Never heard you say. I never heard you say you
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  Speaker 2: didn't feel like he was funny enough back then.
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  Speaker 1: As I look back, as I look back, like, you know,
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: like there was I was. I had funny jokes, but
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  Speaker 1: I also just didn't have the skills to execute some
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  Speaker 1: other ones. So it would just be I just say
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  Speaker 1: some wild shit and I'm like, yeah, this is funny,
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes the jokes are work, and
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: then sometimes they just really wouldn't work. But I feel
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: like now I'm getting close to a point where even
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: if somebody hates the topic I'm talking about, I can
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  Speaker 1: make it funny enough where they could they could laugh
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  Speaker 1: at it.
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  Speaker 6: You talked about the censorship era being good for comedy
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  Speaker 6: because it set like certain boundaries.
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  Speaker 1: Like what not, Yeah, it got to be naughty.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, But so having those boundaries and then you you
• 12:56
  Speaker 6: look back at your old tape, you weren't as funny,
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: so you had to develop so you have like there's
• 12:59
  Speaker 6: a whole system behind you of like like you sit
• 13:02
  Speaker 6: and watch your highlight tapes and you use all of
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  Speaker 6: that to Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I also think censorship like in a weird way. I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe in censorship, but the fact that it exists
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: makes you have to be sharper, you know, like if
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: you could we're in the air, if you could say
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: anything right now, and comedy will probably get a little
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: bit more like an absurdist and a reverend because you
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: could say anything. So there's nothing that's like too edgy.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So now comedy usually gets like
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: a little like weird and out there, you know, like
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: remember that remember Zach Allafanakus Remember him?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: First, yeah, yeah, yeah, Zach's great. That type type of
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: comedy where it's not like here's a political take, but
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: it's more like he's a character and it's a little weird.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: That type type of comedy gets popular when you could
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: say anything and then when you know, censorship comes back.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Usually the guy's like a Chris Rock.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, just these like historic figures.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: But that's why I think well crafted just that's why
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: the Life Specialist actually special, because well crafted jokes have
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: to make a comeback now because we live in the
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: world where everybody just says, any watch.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: It, but what's the what's the joke? How are you packaging?
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Are you know what I mean? Yes, yeah, And people
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: will give you that liberty like if if it's good,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: if the joke is good, they'll let you rock with it,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: even if they don't like the topic or even the opinion.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: They you know, they're they're like, okay, I know what
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: you're trying to say. Also, the Life one is just
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: like so it's so personal and it's so vulnerable. I
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: think I get a little leeway with the other ship.
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: I had to watch I had to watch it twice.
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: Hold you no, I don't like celebrate it, but okay,
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: So the first time I watched it, maybe because it
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: was so personal, like I was like, okay, where's the
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: fun Like I wasn't laughing at everything. Yeah, but it
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: was because I was trying to follow the story. And
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: I'm like, wait, like low key you like that was
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: that had to be tough for you. And then I
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: went back again and I watched it and it was funny,
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: and I was like, okay, but I'm like, I don't
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: know why I had I've never had to do that.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, the fact that you watch it twice, I
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: mean that to me is great. And you know, whatever
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: you get out of it, that's awesome.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Did you feel a little bit retarded that you didn't
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: get it the first time?
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: It wasn't that I didn't get it. I think when
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: I because that was my first time ever seeing you
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: do stand up and I've heard so much about you,
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: I think I instantly just thought I was going to
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: be like, oh my god, but I was like, no,
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: wait he y'all couldn't have a baby, and there's all
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: this stuff that was there. I think my empathy for
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: you came in and I didn't find it funny. And
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: then the second time the empathy was removed and I'm like, oh,
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: he's funny, but I didn't like, Yeah, I didn't get it,
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: but I've never I brought that up because I'm wondering, like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: is there is that on purpose?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a there's an interesting thing that like, so
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the special, I say we had the
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: baby specifically for that reason is that I felt like
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: the audience would be too concerned to destroy. So if
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: you paid attention to the beginning, you might have felt better.
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: Well, I did hear that in the beginning, and I
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: watched you a brilliant idiot, so I know you had
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: the baby, but I think it just felt so heavy
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: because you don't necessarily hear men. And you talked about
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: this in the special, talking about, okay, we couldn't have
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: the baby because it was my fault, like you know
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: what I mean, Like, and I'm like, he's laughing and joking,
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: but like, as a man, I can't that. Probably it
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: probably still strokes your ego a little bit when you talk.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: About honestly know, like it's it's weird. At first, I
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: dealt with it, right, like, so my sperm, my sperm
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't swim. That's like the issue that I talk And.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: There I heard the joke that Tailor dropped.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: To what Taylor killed me. She said yeah, because we
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I beat her in a race, and then I was
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: saying something to her. She was like, yeah, I run
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: fast in Your sperm.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Was bad and nobody knew it. We knew at the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: time when he was the people.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, I remember.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: So it was like that tough room over there.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it was brutal, but the joke was fantastic,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: like you got to keep it in so uh yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: So it's like when when I thought it was my
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: wife's fault, which is what every guy thinks that's going
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: through fertility ship is I felt uncomfortable talking about on
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: stage because that's like her very deep personal business and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of women feel incredibly insecure right about that, Right,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: it makes him fee less of a woman, et cetera. Right,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Once I found out it was my fault, I remember
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the doctor said. I was like, what's the deal. The
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: doctor was like, uh, your sperm swims like uh Drew
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: ski and a riptide.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: They said you were a C C.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Plus, which I feel like he just said the plus
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: so I could feel better about myself, which was nice
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of him. But immediately after that, I start going, what
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with me? Like why you know
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: like does God not want me to have kids? Like
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it's like you have like this really weird like weak.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And then once we decide to go through the I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: actually want to like beat the system. I was like, no,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I think I could do it anyway. Like I got
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like really competitive. And then every time that we would
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: try my and it didn't work, my wife would like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: cry and I felt like it was really selfish if
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: we just didn't go through this other process. Second we
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: went with the other process, I felt really comfortable talking
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: about it on stage. Like actually, once I found out
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it was me, felt comfortable talking about the stage because
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like my wife's issue and I'm like exposing
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: her like deep dark secret. And when I started talking
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: about on the stage, man, the amount of people that
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: would like come up to me and send me these dms,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: like these beautiful things about like what they're going through
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and I actually IVF and like eventually having kids and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: like you really get to see how I think we
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: talk so much about how people are trying to avoid
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: kids or they're upset that they got a girl pregnant,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and there's like all this like negativity around kids. When
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you talk to IVF couples you are or are talking
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to the people that face the reality they might never
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: bring life into this world. And then, by the grace
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of God, we're able to see this thing that they've
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: cherished and maybe we're trying to make for years. So
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you have the most gratitude for your child? Yes, Oh
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: my god. It's like you see the way that people
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: react and how emotional they get about their children, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, you get this, just this beautiful. And then
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the people who had kids and it was kind of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: easy for them. They'll send me these messages about like
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the gratitude they have for their kids, and they didn't
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: realize it, you know, they it was kind of lucky
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: for them. So yeah, it was. It was really it
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: was a really cool thing that I did not expect.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be the only one
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: going through this shit.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: It's a tight knit community, like most people don't necessarily realize.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I got six kids, so the first four big them out.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: God, we were trying to have the fifth one and
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: we couldn't get pregnant, so.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: We tried IVF.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Oh really, we tried IVF for it because insurance didn't
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: cover it with as expensive as a well. The effort
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: to the point when when we had the powerhouse concerts
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: up pair, I would have to give my.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Wife the shot because you have to give her a
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: shot at a certainty.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You gotta make it. It's like a cocktail.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, I had to make it at home.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: They're giving you syringes.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: So in the middle of the concert, I'm in the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: back doing the shot, this, that, and the other, and
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: it still didn't work.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: So we was like we took it as well. Maybe
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: God said four is enough.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: But at least you had four.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Imagine the one that to have zero, but it just
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: got one.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: It happened, happened bro naturally, which was the craziest thing ever.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the stress, Like I know, it's the most
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it's the dumbest thing you guys probably. I mean, you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: know about this just because all the mental health stuff
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you do. But like the way that your brain can
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: play tricks on your body that you got you put
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: so much pressure on, like having a kid and your
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: body reacts negatively like that. Like there's a lot of
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: people who try IVF it works and then the next
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: kid they have naturally and it's just your body goes
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: all right, this kid time, Like, now you're not so stressed.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You got one, and that might be it. You guys
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: went all right, you know, if we're supposed to have four,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that's what we're supposed to have. Forget it, and then
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you stop trying and immediately bang.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Two more, two more.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: The women that don't have kids, imagine how they would
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: feel if they knew how many abortions certain women got.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Bro When I was going through this, I was like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I don't even understand who gets abortions? Yeah, like I was,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it was so hard for us to get pregnant. I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: didn't even know that it was about like my sperm
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: or her eggs. I was like, who's getting abortion? Like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: how is this possible? Once I knew, Yeah, I saw it,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a deeper.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you spoke about it because so many people
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: dealing with it. Like we talked about in the book
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: that when you do it, so many people hit you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: You'd be surprised and it's the last taboo thing and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: people are so and secure about it because you don't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: want your partner to be embarrassed. So like, if I'm
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: telling you it was easier that it was me if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it was my wife's ovaries. I don't think i'd ever
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: talk about it because it could be humiliating for women.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: For dudes, yes, it humilion for me, but like as
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a comedian, I think I'm a little like I find
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the joy in that humiliation. Yeah, it's just it's easy
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: for me to deal with. And but I'll tell you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: after talking about it and seeing all the other people
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: going through it, it's like, yeah, that's why. Honestly, when
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we had Trump on, there was like three things that
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I want to ask him, and one of them I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: wanted him to say publicly that he would he would
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: protect IVF.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: So let's talk about that. How did you meet Trump?
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: How did you all get the like how are yall
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: to get this?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: They reached out and they were like do you want
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to have them on? And we're like, yeah, we want
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to do in the studio And then they were like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: we can't do it in the studio. Like you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Seanman knows. It's like it's a you guarantee the assassination.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It's like windows everywhere. It's like I don't even know why.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: We were trying.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Like you walk right out the elevator, it's windows everywhere.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: It says bad but uh right, like you know, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: hope that doesn't happen, but you know so, but we
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: were really pushing for that. And then and then when
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we did the pod, Yeah, I like spoke to his
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: kid for a while before and I spoke to Dana White,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: which one junior junior, and I was like, yeah, just
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: tell me some stories, and like I just kind of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: wanted to say again the party.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: You talked about the party.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he told me about that one. He
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: told me, Yeah, yeah, there's a part I didn't say
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on the interview, but uh, because I said he just
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: went up to the roof and kicked everybody out. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like what Junior told me is he was in his underwear.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: So like just imagine and imagine Trump Trump underwear Junior.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: For the people who haven't seen the interview, Schultz in
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: the group they talk about Donald Trump Junior had like
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: a huge yeah. And then they had a third body
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: out because Trump found out about the party.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, he wasn't supposed to be back.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was supposed to be back. It was kind
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: of something on like a movie my dad comes home,
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: but he like never mentions it. So Trump Junior is
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: like almost like it didn't happen exactly. Know, he was
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: in his under so that party got real crazy.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first time he addressed it in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like forty years or something like that. He never addressed
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it with his kid.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a guy in this room, a young
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: black male, who said he watched Trump on flagrant. He goes, yo,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: he goes that flaggerant interview is gonna get Trump elected.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: That guy that you're talking about, he's been magging for
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: He was waiting for that moment.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: I felt the same way. That was the first time
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: I looked at him as like a person. I was like,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: why am I like? I was like, oh my god,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: he's a granddad. He cares about his kids. But it
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: was like y'all made him. He was having a good time.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: That and the commercial where another young black guy in
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: this room did a commercial that Trump he was and
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: played over.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I met that who made that commercial over.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: And over again.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: You know what he said, Yeah, he.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Was like, hey, thanks, Charlotte Mane really helped us out.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean that commercial was unbelievable. That really crazy that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the election was decided in this room. Right now.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: We don't get.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: Enough credit, But do you get that response from people
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: don't like, yo, I'll humanize somebody that like we low
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: key even when he got shot, felt like people were like, oh,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: we don't want that to happen.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But so what I'd say to people, and I have
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like a way more humble take than I think most like.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think that we had any impact on the election.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think that any of the podcasts like I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: think that America. I think what America had decided is
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of America weren't voting for Trump. They were
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: rejecting the current administration. They just didn't like what was happening.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And I think the way that the current administration was campaigning,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: they're basically kind of saying, Hey, everything's good, We're gonna
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: kind of keep doing this. I think a lot of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Americans were like, I don't really feel like it's good,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go for anything but this. But I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: think the idea of Trump is always he's a populist,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So if you vote for him, it means you love
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: him and you're obsessed with him and your maggot till
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you die. Where I think a lot of it is
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: really just rejection in the same way that when people
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: voted for Biden, they didn't really vote for Biden. They
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: voted against the chaos of Trump.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And the chaos of the world at that time. Yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: it was COVID, it was George Floyd. But also we
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: talk about this America had his mind made up for
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: two years that they were voting for Trump. We knew that. Like,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it's not like we knew that we were saying that,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: we were saying Biden needed to step down because we
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: knew Biden wasn't gonna win November. It wasn't until the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: vice president, you know, became the nominee that it was like, okay,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: well maybe maybe maybe there.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Is another option, but everybody knew it's not.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: So what do you think about everything that Trump's doing now?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Well, what specifically?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: There's a whole lot that I mean, there's so many orders.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, I think it was Megan Kelly, But yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I love the Yeah, the Gulf of America. I mean
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: it's North America, Central America, South America. Why we call
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it the Gulf of Mexico. It should feel like the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Gulf of America. It's not the Gulf of North America.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It's just the Gulf of America. But again, what I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: like is just like I like saying audacious shit. I'm
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: an American, like Americans in general, like in our DNA,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: where like we like risk takers and we like people
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: who are brave. And I think that's like the tricky
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: thing for Democrats right now. And keep in mind, I'm
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like a lifelong Democrat. I grew up in an arts family.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Both my parents were dance teachers, like I live in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: New York City my whole life. So what I need
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: is some energy on the Democratics side. We talk about
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: this all the time, is I need some like shit talk.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I need some bodacious shit talk. And I think the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: thing that really Americans care about right now is that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: it's it's things are expensive, and I think Democrats need
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: their build the wall and whatever that is. It has
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to happen to what people are struggling with right now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So if they first have to build a team, well exactly, but.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yo, it could just be one outsider, like like I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: think it's dollar eggs, Like eggs are a dollar. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: think you just start saying shit like that. It doesn't
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: matter if you don't know how to do it, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you start saying something that's going to resonate with people,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and that's the only way. And I think that if
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: they make it a class issue, they win this election
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: pretty easily come the next election. But they're afraid to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: do that because a lot of them are in the pockets
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of the billionaire class and the corporations. So they make
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it about identity politics. They it's all these people that
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: go to like Harvard and Yale that like pretend to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: give a fuck about you guys. They don't actually give
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a fuck about you guys, but they get patted on
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the back for pretending to do it. And now they're
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in this situation where the rest of America's like I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: can't afford eggs, so I can't really care about the bathroom.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Like I don't give a fuck about who goes in
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the bathroom because I needed buy eggs. Until I can
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: buy eggs, I don't worry about the bathroom. So you
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: got to start addressing people where their problems are.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And you know what's proven that point when you look
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: at like Gavin Newsom on his podcast with Charlie Kirk right.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: He wants to so bad bro the motherfuckers, which.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Exactly, but you see how quick he is to distance
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: himself from trans athletes and stuff like that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: So now it's like, oh so you never cared.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: No, they never cared.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: You never gave a buck.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: It was just all about politics for you.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: It's not about that for all politicians.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, but some people show it better than others. Some
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: people act like they care better than others.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to learn how to lie better.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't think Democrats are going to win so
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: easily in twenty twenty eight. I think that America. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: think because the Democrats are in such disarray, America will say,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you know what, just give me a sensible Republican. Just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: give me a traditional conservative. Yeah, give you a nicky Haley,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: just somebody, just a regular conservative. I can deal with that. Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's what's gonna happen.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that could definitely happen. There just
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: has to be something like like radical and disruptive on
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the Democrats side. And I think that they're also concerned.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: They're playing this like prevent defense, and they're really concerned
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: about like ostracizing a group, Like if I say this,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: will women be upset? If I say this, will black
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: people will be upset if I say this, will trans
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: be upset. And it's actually like a harder position to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: be in to be a Democrat. You're the party of progress.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: You have to push shit.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Forward and you got to please everybody.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You want to please everybody, which is impossible. Conservatives are
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: actually trying to pull shit back. It's a way easier
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: position to be in to be like, all right, we
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: went too far forward. But I think what Democrats need
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to do is just start listening to every day working
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: class people. I don't like. I think Democrats are too
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: stuck in the ivy league. It's just too much like
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: pretentious finger wagon. That's not what every day Americans are.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And you need to get the working class back immediately.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And you're not going to get that back when you
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: just got a bunch of these like super rich NEPO
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: babies telling poor people how they should think and who
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: should they should vote for. Like, I don't want you
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to tell me if you never had a job, you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: can't tell me who I should vote for.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Simple as that you like Davin Crockett though, I love
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: that girl.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Like that's the type of language that I want to start.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I want to I want people to start using like
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: when she said your Putin's hoe, I don't care. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: don't agree with that sentiment actually to night, but I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: like the I like the energy. Because what people like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: about Trump despite him being like a billionaire who got
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: money from his dad, right, he doesn't talk like them.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: He talks like me and you. The Indian journalist is
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: asking him a question, dibble dabble, dibble dabble, and then
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, dibble dabble, dibble dabble, and then
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: he goes, I don't know what the hell that guy
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: just said. That to me is the most relatable thing
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire life. I go, yeah,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that's what I would have said. That's what he would
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: have said. That's what you would have said if we
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: were just hanging around on the corner talking.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: So you like Trump because you don't feel like it's political.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: He's just himself.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying the reason why I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: like him. I'm saying the reason why people relate to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: him despite him being a billionaire. Because that's the thing
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Democrats don't seem to understand. They're like, they say that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: we're in the pockets of the rich, but there's a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: rich guy right there. Why do they relate to him?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's like, do you see how he talks to people.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: He called Shorty Pocahontas in the middle of the the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Senate here, yo.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: And you know we're sitting right there.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: It's been normalized so much that that wasn't even a headline.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody sit there and take it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pocon's over here pointed.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: At Nobody cared talking about a little bit more. It
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: wasn't even a headline. Nobody gave what He's.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Making fun of African nations. He's like, we gave forty
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: million to the Lessoto. Nobody knows what that is. That's hilarious.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Like it that I didn't know what it was either.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I was that a real nation.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: It was running down and stuff at the city. I
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: thought that that was all jokes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: That was real.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Would have said, that's a male contract. We need I
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: need that vibranium.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I want to ask too, because you talking about walking
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: the line, you walk a dope line because you have.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: White fan base and black fan base. Is that difficult
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: for you?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I got wall I said, I got.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Your jokes, go everywhere with it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I got the most diverse audience in comedy. It's not
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: even close. Like it's just like you come to my show,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: it looks like the un So it's like it's like
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: to me, it's in my experience, in my life. I'm
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a pretty curious guy. So like, if I find out
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: something about your culture, where you're from, whatever, I like
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: talking about it, and I'm going to make jokes about
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: just because that's my way of communicating the world. What
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I found is is like when you make fun of
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: people based on things that they're proud of or they
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: haven't realized about themselves, they don't feel offended. They feel
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: kind of seen, they feel noticed, and they appreciate it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: So all these different groups will start coming out to shows,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, oh, this is really
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: fucking cool. And when you ever, whenever it comes out
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to the show, we all kind of submit to this
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: idea like everybody's gonna be made fun of, we all
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: gonna laugh at each other, We're gonna laugh at ourselves,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and it's a cool, little beautiful thing. So to me,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: it's never been like like black people found out about
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: me before white people, Like I'm doing brilliantaires with him
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like Guy Code. To be honest, black people were on
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: way before white people. I mean, eventually towards the end
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: seasons a Guy Code, I think it like just crossed over.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: But early on MTV two was more like hip hop related. Yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and then I think Rogan, I think white people started
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to find me, and then like you know, Indians found me.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Obviously I do the pop with Akas, but also some
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: stand up clips that would go viral out there. Albanians
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: would when we've seen me from some clip, and like
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: all these different groups would come out and yeah, it's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: my favorite thing of looking out in the audience. But
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I used to go to comedy clubs when I was
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: on tour and the the owners would be like because
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: it would be all black people for the weekend, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: they would think I was like Gary Owen or something
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: like that. They were like, what the fuck is going on?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I never called you like, man, what's the secret?
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: How do you get white people to about?
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: What about? Because you said when people you make people
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: feel good because they feel seen, But what about in
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: the moments where you're making people like things that they
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: people don't want to be seen for. You're bringing that
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: up and there upset, Like I know black women was
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: really upset at you for a second.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would say that they're upset for like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a joke that I tried to make on the pod
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and like the problem with the pod. I mean, I
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: love Pod, don't get me wrong. It's like it's not
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: really jokes. It's just like mounds of clay. A joke
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: on stage is like a statue. You know, you've like
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: molded it, carved it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Like you can't work out on the pod.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's gonna.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Be it's probably And like, so like what I always
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: say to people is like, first of all, if like
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm making a joke, I'm like teasing you about something, right,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and you go to me, Hey, that kind of makes
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: me feel ucomfortable. I'm never gonna tease you again because
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to be uncomfortable about that thing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Tell the man you're comfortable.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: You care about. That's not.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: What period that's her real hair.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Scout baby, Oh my god, that's beautiful period at over there?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you looking at? Over there?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Looking at nothing got you?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But so what I'm saying is like I would never
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: like if I if I have a joke where I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: just like teasing you forever, and you're like, hey, that
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: actually makes me feel comfortable. Like, my goal is not
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to make you feel comfortable, so I'll never tease you
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: about that. Again. That doesn't mean I won't tease other
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: people about that, but to you specifically, I want So
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: if there's somebody at a comedy show and she like
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: they're upset about something, here's a perfect example. Girl at
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a comedy show. I was saying some joke about some topic.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I forget exactly what is. She gets up and starts
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to walk out right this is a little comedy club,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm like, where are you going? And
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: she's like, I just, uh just got to step out.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I go why, and she's like, I just I don't
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: want to I don't want to make it about me.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I go, man, what's the deal. She says, Oh, it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: just like the topic. And some of the people in
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the audience start to like boo her for being like
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like offended or whatever, and I go, yo.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: No, don't boo her.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: She's doing what we all wish an audience member would do.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: She's going, hey, I feel uncomfortable. I don't want to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: affect everybody else's time here. I don't want to make
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: this show about me. I'm just gonna step out and
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, Like, you're just like the most emotionally
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: intelligent person in the room right there. I don't ever
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: want to make her fee uncomfortable. So one on one,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. But I'm not gonna
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: stop joking around about a whole idea just because it
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: makes one person uncomfortable.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I used to watch go to Paul Mooney shows. Oh
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: my god, people would walk out of Paul Mooney shows
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: all the time. And it was always white people. Yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: they would always leave. They was offended, like I'm leaving,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and they wouldn't make no noise about it. They would
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: just get up and leave, and Paul would be like, oh,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: why are you leaving? Nah, it's not for me.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the perfect thing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: If it's not for you, it's not for you, be
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: out exactly.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: But there might be someone who finds it funny. So
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that's the trigger thing where it's like one individual shouldn't
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: decide what everybody finds funny. But in terms of the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: thing you were talking about, like, yeah, if black women
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: are upset at that thing that said, yeah, you're totally
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: allowed to be upset. There's this rule that, like a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: lot of comics say, like people aren't allowed to be offended.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: You allowed to feel however you want to feel, especially
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: if you don't know me, Like if you know me,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you know my attentions, you're like, you know, I'm just
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: trying to bust balls and like make a fucking stupid joke.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And maybe the joke wasn't that funny, but like, my
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: intentions are always good. If you don't know me, you
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: just see it, You're like, oh, what fuck is this asshole?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm not even upset at your response?
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Like that was my first take, And then we talked
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: about it in the room, like me and Charlotte, because
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: my first sake was like, well, who is he to
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: even like you're welcome, things were welcoming you here.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Ye be a guess, but well it's my thought.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, but just in our world of
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: like black women and what we deal with as fred
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: as tropes. But I will say, after watching a special
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: and after you know, having conversations with Charlat, I'm like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, a joke is a joke as a joke,
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: like Granted, some people are still gonna be upset. They
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: probably be upset that I just said that, But it
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: depends on the person and you can't win. You got
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: to figure out where you wo line you going to trade.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I also think those those two dudes from the thing,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: like they're in a tricky situation because, like they I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: think they had said that they didn't find women Atlanta attractive,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of black women in Atlanta
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: were like, oh shit, are you trying to say you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: don't like black women? Right?
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: They don't get me started on them. They came out
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: and apologized down. Okay, they gave like five renditions of
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: an apology, and they can still stay where they're at.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: And I think, but I.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Think if people see you sells, like you know some
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: sellouts when you see them, so it's not like it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it's so they're trying to like position it. They try
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to put it on me, and some people fell for
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the bait, like Ryan Clark felt for the bait and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like made a whole like cloud moment out of it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: when he didn't even realize, Like, the thing you should
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: be addressing is the two clowns that are basically saying
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: black women are ugly and then laughing at the joke
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: on the other podcast, So it's like that's the issue,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: not the comedian making a joke about the hypothetical situation.
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Well, we can move on after this. I will argue
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: that all of you guys were a part of the
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: problem in that moment, but I think again it's to
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: each his own. I didn't like though, that they threw
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: it one way and didn't take accountability for the fact that, like,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: y'all were actively engaged and it's fine if you wanted
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: to do that. On oh, they were like, we should have,
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: we should We were uncomfortable. We just didn't want to
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: say anything in the moment. We were just trying to
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: get through. And it's like, y'all want to y'all were
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: not victims, y'all. Y'all were actively engaged. Just shut up.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: Y'all were actively engaged. Y'all were having a good time.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: They're not uncomfortable. The only time they're uncomfortable is around
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: beautiful black women.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Obviously.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Damn, that is a good question.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: How have podcasting changed the way you approach I guess
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: comedy and after you know, these couple of recent situations,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the situation. I needs the situation I saw, but how
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: it approached, how you discussed things.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: You know, your cares like an interesting one. Like I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: guess I could deal with people not liking me because
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: these things a lot of times are momentarily like they'll
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: they'll not like you for a few weeks and they
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: think they won't like you then to move on to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: somebody else that they don't like, et cetera. So that's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: not really like the big, big issue, you know, it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: just a It is one of those things where I go, like,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: all right, if I'm if I'm shooting and it's on
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: something like if it's on something really wild, I want
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to make sure that I could ideally that shot is
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: is amazing, you know, but I'm gonna fail, Like you
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: don't make funny jokes every single time, and I and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I like shooting. That means I'm gonna shoot and miss
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a lot, you know. But I just got to basically
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: understand that, like they are gonna be people that don't
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: know me, and however they interpret me. I can't control that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Like there are people that think I'm like some right
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: wing maga lunatic, and I I literally as much as
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I would want them to be like, Bro, you've never
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: had a conversation with me, Like you don't know anything
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: about my life, Like you just people exactly. So it's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: like you can't control how people how people feel about you,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and you just have to continue, at least in my opinion,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: just put out good art. And when I have the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: opportunity to put out like a good piece of art,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like hopefully the Special does that, Like hopefully you see
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the more distilled version. We were talking about this yesterday,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Like you know, when he puts out a book, it's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the most distilled version of his thoughts and there's less
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: fat for you to interpret in a shitty way. When
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm on a pod just shooting ship. There's tons of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: fat for you to interpret. When you see The Special,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like you get a really distilled version of
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like how I think and how I feel. If you
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: get offended by something in The Special, I could really
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: live with that because I've worked hard to make it
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: pierce through, even like the sharpest armor for the most
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: protective armor.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: No, I do get that. I do also want to ask,
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: do you still want to make love to Kendrick Lamar?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, honestly, it's hard to say.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: No to that.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: You find him a jacke.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, man, did you see him in the jean?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: When I saw those jeans, I was like, boom boom,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: bom boot that was a joke. That shit raises him
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: so fast. I'm just saying, he's little, like I hate
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: having to explain jokes. He's adye baty, So why is
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: he telling he's gonna kill my telling people to kill
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: my friends. The biggest thing about this whole shit that
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: nobody I didn't even cared that he said this shit
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: about like me. Not saying jokes like that to me
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: is like a million people who said not say jokes.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: The next line where he goes into the m words
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: that Koon and the Edwards being groomed, slide on both
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of them. What a slide mean to y'all?
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Take you out? But that's because I'm hold on.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I ain't no explaining him. If you say kill my friends,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: everything after that is fine. You took it there if
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: you say kill my friends, because a lot of people
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: thought that was Charlemagne and alex Media. So if you
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: go the next line you tell your fans to kill
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: my friends, you.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Getting made love to listen.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I appreciate my friend trying to stick up for me,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he was talking about I.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Don't think about but I'm exposed to know, you know
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I didn't say anything for weeks.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: That was the other thing, Like people ran with these
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: different narratives. They tried to act like after what I said,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I was worried about like getting death threats and shit.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: It's like no, I was getting at the second they
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: said it for two weeks sensation shit, I filed my
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: special I don't really give a fuck. And then after
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: that I was like, Yo, we're gonna have some fun
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: with this. But I don't like this idea that like
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I'm this big bully. It's like you told your people
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to kill my friends after you say that, or that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the potential interpretation if somebody said in a rap song
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to kill your friends.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: But do you understand though, that that that was in
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: response to him feeling like you came at what he
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: would deem his friends or his people or people he's
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: trying to protect. Talking about they.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Make fun of my friends.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: But if you in the street, if you outside, you outside,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: you can't choose whether you out or in. It's like
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: you out or you in?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, So then if he wants to play by those rules,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: then don't be surprised at the response. That's what I'm saying.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: It feels like he's inside and outside.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Plus it's a weird matchup, right, because you got a rapper, right,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: who's a prolific rapper, and then you got a comedian
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: who's to say anything for the joke. So it's not
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: even just like what are we doing here?
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: I think it's because it's platform and it's like people
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: listen to you and your voice and your podcast. That's
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: why that that's why that stuff went so viral, because
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: you got the numbers and then he has it too.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: So at the moment he's like, okay, you.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Know you want to talk about Gary Owes.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: That's that's a good point. Nobody, we don't know. I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: not about moment, you know exactly what he was talking
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: about because I heard, and I knew exactly what I
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: think it was.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was me. I was like, why
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: are we talking about me?
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: Because of the ships and giggles and all the laughs.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he was talking about math. He got to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: be kept saying he was talking about me. And I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, if he's talking about me and is
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: he telling people to kill my friends? Well, I got
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to do something about that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I got to do something.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta do something, like I'm not a tough guy,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a certified lover boy.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: But you're always going to be perceived as the bully
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: because you're a white man.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Is that right?
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I just thought that, right, like me, I thought you
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: mean that right?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: No? No, what you mean? No?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Like, am I am I bully? Like I just thought
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: it was like you a bully. The size differential, that's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: what I thought. No, it's a it's a you think
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: there's a racial dynamic. Duh, Yeah, I guess I didn't know.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, of course. And it's the it's the privileged conversation.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: It's like what you can get on the plat, like
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: the ships and giggles. Guys they had done sixty times.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: You know, you said something is not as interesting. You said,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: it's the privileged conversation. You know, we all can say
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: whatever it is we want to say. You just got
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to be able to deal with the consequences.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: White most people can't exactly, and most people don't have
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: the platform, and they're not they're not teflon down like you.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: They don't have fifteen years a game. They not picked
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: up by Fox News and seeing it and shaved room
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: like you other other people.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: Right list is a political.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: You know that you just want to hear just.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: He's got a guy with glasses and a bow tie.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Listen his podcast Way for Charlotte made to say one
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: bad thing about the Democrats.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: If we don't even think about stuff like that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: But but it's the truth, though, because you have a
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: platform that a lot of other people don't have. Kendrick
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Lamar has a platform. So he's like, all right, bet
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: you're gonna get outside, you're gonna laugh, jokey, I'm outsorry
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: for my women. Front of the Black Woman.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: It's lucid Kendrick, because Kendrick does what he wants to
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: do and he gets rewarded.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: For it, like you can do that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: This whole thing got blown out of purport. Like honestly,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's like obviously a prolific rapper. He's you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: he's it's not my the thing that I listened to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: all the time. But like to say, he's not like
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: fantastic at what he does is ridiculous and I have
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of respect for anybody that puts something out
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: for judgment. I think there are a lot of people who, like,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: they just make reaction content, right, so they don't really
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: know what it's like to like create a piece of
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: art and put it out there in the world and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: let the world judge it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: You have to deal with that.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: That takes balls, and I admire people that have balls.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Trump's trades, executive orders, what he do.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: He got rid of trance, he got rid of trans
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: what women, They're not around anymore. But that is that
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: is Yeah, that is how it is. Isn't that how
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it is?
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: Every day shine but the sun still come up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I think there are trans people.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: No, there are, but yeah, just recognize him.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that he's allowed to, like, you can't force
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: me to recognize.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: He's allowed to not believe. But that don't mean that
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: it's not true.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I was watching squid Game. If they didn't have the numbers,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm recognizing you know what, if
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: they didn't number them, I don't know if I'm recognizing everyone.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really know what I'm saying
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: right now. Listen, let me apologize before an Asian rapper
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: comes from me. Jen, I'm sorry, hits, get what you.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: Mean by the numbers?
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: And oh god, no ever watch comedy, to watch watch comedy,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: let her watch comedy.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: Wait back to your special.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: Yes, I was thinking, and I know you and your
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: wife have been together for some years, so it's like
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: a hypothetical question for or more of an ego question.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: I look at any point when that was happening and
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: you found out that it was your fault because of
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: you know, just your pride and your ego being hurt,
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: did you'll feel like, man, like what if she leaves
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: me because I can't make this happen?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a part of you that goes through that.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: You're just like, will she not find me like as
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: masculine or not find me attractive? Like will something primarily
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: happen inside her where like she'll reject me because I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: can't do the thing we're put here to do. So yeah,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you immediately go through that, and then like that insecurity
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: takes over and then you're like more sensitive about certain things.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: If she's not being sweet one day, you're.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Like, is that it?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: You know? Did she stop? So this ship tears apart relationships.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: That's why I tell people, like, if you find out
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: there's a problem, do I feel yeah, IVF immediately instead
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of like going through the emotional turmoil that could break
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you guys up. But but no, She's like, I mean,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: this is like a little thing in the special nobody
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: would really understand or even probably catch. But like the
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: first joke I make in the special is about this,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: you know, about about guys who say we're pregnant and
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I was insulting to women. And then I say yes
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: like my wife when my wife says that we made
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. Right. The last piece to the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: special is when my wife is is saying, uh, you
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: know when when she thought that she lost the baby
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm apologizing. I'm like, I'm so sorry that this
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: is my fault and you got to bear the burden,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and she goes, you don't have problems. We have problems.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: We'll do it together. So it's this idea that like
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: in this in the beginning, I'm having this really selfish
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: thought of like I make the money in the house.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And then when she's dealing with the toughest things she's
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: ever dealt with in her life, she's that's my fault.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: She's still taking on some of it because we're together.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: So it's yeah, you find out who people are in
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: these tough situations. I got a good one. I got
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a good one.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: What is your conversations like with fifty?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I know, I know fifties, fifty is the goat.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I know he's he loves you as a comedian, and
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I know you pull up for him, he pulls up
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: What's your conversation with him when all this is going on?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yo, I just yeah, he did I hit him up
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: or hit me up? Or we're trying to get him
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: on the pod and he's like, yeah, I'm pulling up.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: But like he's the type of person that like he
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: is Like, how do I explain it? It's like, you
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: know how like in wrestling, whether the people are booing
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: or cheering, like as long as they're making a sound,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: he's not afraid of anything. There are people that are
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: probably like scared to do like credit Charlotmagne too. Like
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Charlotte could have easily been like, hey, the heat is
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: on you and they're gonna be upset at me doing
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: a pot with you every single week. And he you know,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: let's take a few weeks off.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: But he's been there before, so he understands that's not
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: rock with my friends stands by.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Me always always, but that's just this is a this
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: is real ones. So he's the type of person also
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: who like he doesn't care what the trend is. So
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: many people are like motivated and moved by the trend,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and he's the type of person he don't give a
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: fuck what the trend is. And so if if there's
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: like negative energy, you know, give a fuck there's positive,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: he don't give a fuck. He moves to the beatings
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: his own drum. But I remember Charlotte Mane had an
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: a dope thing to me when when I was going
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: through that last one and there was like people, there's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: even people in my community, like comedians like saying some
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: certain things about me, And Charlot man was like, Yo,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: this is actually good. You're going through this right now.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I go, why, he goes, because you're about to hit
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: another level when the special comes out and you got
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: to pay close attention to who's hating now? I go,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? He goes, Uh, Because whoever's hating
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: now has been hating the whole time. Absolutely, But they
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: didn't feel comfortable coming out. They were waiting for you
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: to look wounded. It's like laws of the Jungle, you
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like the line only attacks like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the baby gazelle, you know. And uh and like I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: took note, bro I got yeah, I got notes and
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for them to feel.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: The life is out right now right now.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: It's number two. What it is, number two, number number
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: It was still but they said that show.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Was good, which what I heard it was really.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: I didn't watch it because I didn't want to mess
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: numbers up. I said, I was gonna wait.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You, but no, I heard running point. Running point is
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: like it's a global sensation, you know what I mean.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: It's uh and that that's a Kate Hudson and Chet
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Hanks and salute to them, like shout out to chat Man.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: That motherfucker is so funny. And but yeah, we still
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: got to knock them out. But yeah, it was cool.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: We beat uh Bobby de Niro show. Oh yeah, Black,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: this has got to be your algorithm. Tyler Perry's Beauty
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and Black came back out.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: It's number two now he's number three.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, you might be looking at the top ten.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: You got look at that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: What I was looking at, what I was talking about,
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: you guys, go was.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Trending, right, No, top ten works too. Okay, we're a
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: big weekend. You're happy.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I'm out there watching this week and I'm gonna check
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: it out this week and me and the wife gonna
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: relax and watch this.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: It's the only way to watch it.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, if you got a wife, you and
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: your significant other go to watch it together.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: The fact that you guys went through it, I'm really
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: curious your your perspective.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: But that's why we talk That's what we talked about.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: That's why we make it our business to talk about
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: it in the book, and we pot about it all
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: the time because so many people came up to and
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, we were dealing with the same thing.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: We felt like failures and men came up to me
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: on the side. It was like, I thought it was
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: just me. I don't know how to console my wife.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: But I mean, once you get through that other side,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: you realize it makes you look at your child a
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: whole lot different. It just is like, because it's the
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: most precious thing in the world, and if you're able
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: to have a child, you know.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: You you hold that really really close to your heart.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, but thank you.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And that's awesome you put in your book.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I hope we destigmatize it. I don't want people to
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: feel ashamed of wanting to have a kid. And you
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: should have that ship by any means necessary. Like I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: feel like that's the thing missing in the masculinity conversations.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: All these fucking guys out there saying what it is
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: to be a man. None of them got kids.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: You know, you know what I think is your feminist arc.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be your feminist or.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Been a feminist. Bro, I'm a proud girl, dad. That's right.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I told you having a girl's gonna change your baby.
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: Girl.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: She's thirteen months. Thirteen months. Yeah, I've been trying to
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: get you on a feminist ship for a while. I've
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: been a feminist, I know, ever since you got depressed
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: or whatever you got, since you got anxiety.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Christ But I'm gonna be honest with you. They've gone
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: too far. I'm just having this conversation more. They've gone
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: too far.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I'm on my feministart. You're a mask on this art.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: You're back.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: You got to bring her back, just the little you
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: got too.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Scared of what being a girl dad?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's every day is terrifying. But it's also
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: just like the most beautiful rewarding thing ever. Like she
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: just walks in the room, she's so excited, gives me
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: like the big hug, and you're just like, this is
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: nothing else is important even in life.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, listen Andrews shows. Ladies and gentlemen.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: It don't be a stranger just because a little short
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: five ft two digite over.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, do you do a podcast where you
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: can still come up here?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I'll come on. You want to thank
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: you guys for always man, this is this is legendary.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Andrew shoutz. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: ass up in the morning.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Come Breakfast Club.