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- 0:04Wow, lucky us. Hi, I'm speaking to Rebecca fan And Hi Rebecca.
- 0:08How are you? Oh? Oh, I'm fine. How are you,
- 0:10Paul? I'm good. The last time I interviewed you, I interviewed
- 0:14you at the play at the at the Friars Club. Oh yes, he
- 0:18spoke because I was attending one of your silicon What is the name of your
- 0:23organization exactly, Silicon Dragon Events, Silicon Dragon Events. Okay, all right,
- 0:29there seems to be a little ladd in New York City. There you
- 0:32go, and the voice over and Silicon Dragon Events you created. Because very's
- 0:44not a great connection. You want to start over? Um? Oh,
- 0:49yes, I think the internet connection stable. It was unstable. There are
- 0:56you in Connecticut right now? I mean Connecticut? Yes, all right,
- 1:00we'll have that Connecticut place, you know, right right outside of New York,
- 1:04right outside of New York where it should be good Internet. It should
- 1:07be good. But there's so much talk going on, a lot of hot
- 1:11air in this area. Oh yeah, I know, all right. I
- 1:18was supposed to go to the Greenwich. I was invited to the polo matchup
- 1:21there. There's a lot of hot air in that place. Oh yeah,
- 1:23polo match is great here yeah, gretch, Yeah, but I didn't go
- 1:30in any case. All right, we're going to start again. Hello everybody.
- 1:33Oh, this is a terrible connection, is why don't you call me
- 1:38back? You want to? You want to? Oh no, you're it's
- 1:40a zoom thing. So um let's see. That's well. Now I can
- 1:46see your lips and the words coming out of it. Okay, I moved
- 1:49a little bit. So oh yeah, that move was good. All right,
- 1:55all right, we're gonna take two. Take two, all right,
- 1:59high pause, black is good news. Plan it paused the World for Peace.
- 2:02Very involved with the Asian community for since nineteen eighty five. And I
- 2:07met Rebecca Fan and hello, Rebecca, how are you? Oh, I'm
- 2:12great, Paul. How are you doing? I'm doing fine. I met
- 2:15you because you're very involved with the Asian community, big time with your organism.
- 2:19What's an official title of your organization, Silicon Dragondventures. All right,
- 2:24when did you establish those that? M oh, that was twenty ten,
- 2:29all right, so we have some years here. And why why did you
- 2:32Silicon Dragon Aventures. What what do you all do? Well? This is
- 2:38one thing. I write books, and I've had four books published. The
- 2:46first one was Silicon Dragon, how China is winning the tech race. I
- 2:52think that was pretty prescient in that view. The second one was Startup Asia,
- 2:58which was a little bit more about in Yeah, which as we know,
- 3:01is a big up and comer. And the third was tech Titans of
- 3:06China. And the fourth is Silicon Heartland transforming the rust belt to a tech
- 3:14belt. So that's underway. Whose rust belt is that? And tech belt?
- 3:19In this book called Silicon Hartland transforming the Midwest? I think it says
- 3:23Midwest. Am I reading this right? Midwest? Yes? It is Midwest?
- 3:29Yes, well, midwest of me means America's Midwest. Is it America's
- 3:34Midwest? It is America's Midwest. I thought, there's corn in the Midwest.
- 3:38What is there something else? There's there's corn in the Midwest. It
- 3:42depends on which Midwest you're talking about. If you're talking about around the Great
- 3:46Lake States, which is Michigan, Ohio, Western New York, Pennsylvania,
- 3:53Wisconsin, these are all rust belt industrial kinds of places. Cleveland, Detroit,
- 4:00Flint, Buffalo, uh Date in Ohio. They were rust belt cities,
- 4:09industrial heartland. So if this is the industrial heartland, this is not
- 4:13your corn belt. This is not your middle of the country Iowa or Nebraska,
- 4:17which are all great and make America very strong and fed well fed,
- 4:23and a lot of the world world's food products are coming from there as well.
- 4:29When they rust rust belt, what does the rust belt mean? I
- 4:32know the word rust, but what is the rust belt? What do they
- 4:35call? These are all the old steel companies? Okay? And yeah the
- 4:41manufacturing alrighty part of the United States we have some of the manufacturing. We
- 4:49still have a manufacturing plant somewhere out there in the rust Belt while they're being
- 4:54transitioned. There's new semiconductor plants going in. There's new data center is going
- 5:00in from Google, Amazon and Facebook. Intel is building a new semiconductor plant.
- 5:04Micron is building a new semiconductor plant. So the industry is changing.
- 5:11It's becoming modernized, automated, roboticized. Yeah, will anybody will There only
- 5:19be mechanics who can fix a computer and know how to put a chip into
- 5:26something. Some human or something. Aren't going to be any people anybody have
- 5:29any work? Are we going to be workless? Well, this is an
- 5:33issue of retraining. You know, you can't expect a factory worker who's been
- 5:38on the factory line to all of a sudden be able to engineer chips go
- 5:45into electronic components. So we've got a retraining issue going on, and it's
- 5:51it's underway. Yeah, some places get it better than others. For instance,
- 5:57Columbus is way ahead in this train a position to a more service oriented,
- 6:02tech oriented economy from less of an agricultural kind of base, and Detroit
- 6:11it still has ways to go. In Indianapolis it's going strong. Cleveland is
- 6:15kind of halfway there, Dayton is going we have a temporary buffer Strong and
- 6:24about Bird because of the university there with Carnegie Mellon and all the robotics and
- 6:31self driving innovation and AI that's coming out of Pittsburgh. And so yeah,
- 6:40there you see least techbusters that are forming around universities, around startup hubs,
- 6:46around successful entrepreneurs and research and development institute. So that's happening throughout. You
- 6:54could call it the rust belt, but people actually don't like that firm pretty
- 7:00those who live in that area, they think that that's an old derogatory term,
- 7:04so they want to be known as I'm sure the tech belt, a
- 7:09new tech belt outside of Silicon Valley and Rebecca is known as a tech journalist.
- 7:14She's actually she's unbelievable. I'm crazy about her. Cnb C contributor.
- 7:21You're a tech journalist. Your book has gotten tremendous reviews, as all of
- 7:27your books and indispensable. Look at that word book for founders, investors,
- 7:31and changemakers, said Jim Bryer, founder of CEO Briar Capital. A book
- 7:36that inspires hope for our future. Rocana, author of Dignity in the Digital
- 7:42Age. That's an important And then look at this one. An uplifting journey
- 7:46into Americans all too often overlooked Midwest, the untold story of the rust Belt
- 7:51rising, says Morrel Gavett, CEO of Tech Stars and author of Tramped.
- 8:00Are you unicorns now? But why are you from the Midwest? Yeah,
- 8:03I'm from Ohio. That's why I get it. I'm from the southeastern Ohio,
- 8:09which is sort of almost in the Appalachia areas in the foothills, just
- 8:15one county north of the Appalachian Foothills. So my book also goes into Appalachia,
- 8:22goes into the coal mining areas of West Virginia that are also in transition.
- 8:28Because all of these places they have to they have to look to the
- 8:33future. They can't depend upon their past industries or they're going to be dead.
- 8:37They have to they have to strategize for the future and figure out what
- 8:41the new industries are. So West Virginia is really big now on cybersecurity and
- 8:46energy. Are trying to get much bigger in that are less reliance on coal
- 8:50mining, because this is an area that you know, has been diminished quite
- 8:56a bit in the past fifty years. Just like many of these manufacturing manufacturers
- 9:03and factories have shifted to overseas, to China and elsewhere, or to Mexico.
- 9:11Now we have to rebuild, and we are rebuilding. So I think
- 9:13there's a new awareness in the United States that we've got to compete with China.
- 9:18A lot of these factories moved to China. Research and development is happening
- 9:24in China, innovations happening in China, and we are The United States is
- 9:28now um you know, launched a major industrial redevelopment of our core United States,
- 9:37not just Silicon Valley, not just New York City, not just Boston,
- 9:41but a lot of the regions that have been overlooked for many years,
- 9:48such as the Rust Belt, such as the rust belt, or you could
- 9:52call it the industrial heart And if you want to call it that handle needs
- 9:56a new name. It needs Yeah, I call it, you know,
- 10:01I call it a Silicon heartland. Silicon Heartland. That's the title of my
- 10:07new book, another book, not this book, No Silicon Heartland. Is
- 10:11this one? That's just a question. Yeah, yeah, I know.
- 10:15Hey, let me let me share screen for a second. Let me can
- 10:18you enable share screen on my show something? You've been good the screen?
- 10:22I can have the share screen. Okay, all right? Can you can
- 10:30you see that? I can see I can say, oh, hey,
- 10:33look at this. Yeah. So that just gives you a picture of the
- 10:37three major books I've done there plus Start of Asia not even in there.
- 10:43But these they all have China relevance because this was the first book talking about
- 10:48China getting ahead. This book talked about how they were they were really maturing,
- 10:54and this one talks about the US response and how we are responding to
- 10:58China um as the as a big tech rival. So that's uh kind of
- 11:03the journey that I've been on. Now, you, i will say,
- 11:07are a wonderful person to ask h one either how do you see Let's look
- 11:15at the future for a moment here. Okay, so the Silicon heartland,
- 11:20how do you see the success of it? Do you think we can can
- 11:24transform? Do you think we can re innovate? Can we? Uh?
- 11:28Can we? I mean we always seem to be able to do well.
- 11:31We're hard working country. The people of America, they want to make a
- 11:37living, they want to feed their families, um, and they'll do whatever
- 11:41they have to do to to You'll hit on two really strong points at a
- 11:46population of this area of a lot of grit, a lot of determination,
- 11:52working very hard uh. And so the culture uh is a real benefit I
- 11:58think to this region's transition, as well as what's been happening with remote working.
- 12:07You know, a lot of new tech talent has moved into places that
- 12:09they may not have considered in the past, but now because they can work
- 12:13anywhere and they don't have to go into an office or more tech talent has
- 12:18moved in land, and more and more states are encouraging that kind of migration
- 12:26from the coast to the inland where they have the resources now tom to do
- 12:31that kind of work and also to live in a way that's a lot less
- 12:35expensive and enjoyable in the midway. Let me ask you though, you know,
- 12:41sometimes I'm not anti union, I'm not anti organizations getting together. But
- 12:48we do have a kind of a high standard of living and probably also into
- 12:52Hartland. You know, kids still have to go to college for seventeen million
- 12:58dollars uh semester and uh you know, and food and so on, and
- 13:03cars are a lot of money and housing. You know, Yeah, how
- 13:07do we how do we compete? You know, you're you're you're an authority
- 13:11here. How do we compete? Where people are making five dollars a day
- 13:16or maybe that's wrong that number I'm saying, or maybe they're making ten or
- 13:20fifteen, but I think they're not making minimum wage that we're that we're demanding.
- 13:26How do we how do we keep up and keep you know, how
- 13:28do we stay in business? Well? I think we do really have to
- 13:33have startups. UM. Startups are an economic engine. They can drive drive
- 13:41an economy forward, and so there's a lot of energy around UM in many
- 13:46of these states to encourage more and more startups and funding of startups and not
- 13:54being afraid to try something new, not just stay stuck in your old job,
- 14:00whether it's flipping burgers or whether it's being on the assembly line, or
- 14:03whether you may be even unemployed. So startups are an important aspect of moving
- 14:13forward. When you say that, are you thinking, are you referring to
- 14:18the fact that a startup could pay their people less it's money than you know,
- 14:22someone that's been in a company for thirty years? Am I offend what
- 14:26I'm what I'm hearing? Or I mean how many how many people do you
- 14:30know who haven't had a job for thirty years in one company? That's all
- 14:33that's all news. That doesn't happen anymore. You gotta be able, you
- 14:37gotta be adapted. You don't have to adapt to the new reality, you
- 14:41know, And being in a startup can actually, if your startup is successful,
- 14:46hey that's a home run for you financially, u and in many other
- 14:50ways very rewarding because it may not just be the salary, It can be
- 14:56the equity that you have in a startup and you can be part, you
- 14:58can have impact. You have a lot more impact with the startup as an
- 15:03individual than you can in a big corporation where you're just doing kind of in
- 15:09some cases routine work. Right right, No, this is a very very
- 15:15powerful comment that you're saying, and actually something I didn't you know. I
- 15:20know about startups. I go to your style, to your meetings in startup
- 15:24I go to a lot of investment events. But in essence, it's a
- 15:28it's a driving force for business. Oh it is. And there's been a
- 15:33lot of eighteen thousand new startups in the Midwest in the last decade, and
- 15:39that's a good number. So you're starting to see the decentralization of Silicon Valley,
- 15:48which really has monopolized the startup activity and the funding for startups, about
- 15:54half of it actually in the United States. Half of it it's in Silicon
- 15:58Valley, believe it or not, and then New York and Boston or the
- 16:02other major powers. But now we're seeing a shift where the balance is tipping
- 16:10more to the inland and we're seeing more founding going in and more startups and
- 16:15more successes. So you know, it's gradual, it's not happening overnight.
- 16:22And I think this is kind of a frontier trend and it's on the frontier
- 16:29as well, so definitely something to watch. I think, there you go.
- 16:34Could you put your book back up? I like the way you did
- 16:37that. Okay, sure, people get it. Sure, they can get
- 16:42the book on Amazon easily enough. And well, let me get the right
- 16:51to bolder here one a second, so share screen. Oh that's not right.
- 17:04Do you have that here? It is? I got it beautiful.
- 17:07So Silan Harlan is a new book. It just came out. It's on
- 17:12Amazon. It's also in some bookstores as well. And and I've been on
- 17:21the speaking circuit too, so often these books are at my speaking events.
- 17:26What's your website so people can see where you are speaking? Oh? Sure,
- 17:30yeah, that is Silicon Dragon Ventures dot com. Silicon Dragon Ventures dot
- 17:37com. All right, we'll becca. Thank you so much. It's always
- 17:41a pleasure to speak with. You have such good positive energy. You're all
- 17:45about peace, so also you're a positive and many aspects. What's peace for
- 17:49you? Last last question, Well, what's peace for me? Oh gosh,
- 17:56let me think. Well, we have an awful lot of conflict in
- 18:06today's society, and it's very difficult to find a place where you don't where
- 18:12you can find peace. So if you can find that special spot, um
- 18:18where you feel like everything's okay with the world, uh, that is peace
- 18:26to me. Finding that special spot beautifully, beautifully, beautifully stated maybe it's
- 18:33in the heartland. Well, it's definitely quieter in the heartland New York City.
- 18:41What was I saying? It was in the Cleveland at the Rock and
- 18:44Roll Hall of Fame, Huey Lewis. Huey Lewis, The world is in
- 18:49the Midwest, in the Heartland, and it's in Cleveland, not in la
- 18:55not in New York. It's in Cleveland, I think, is how the
- 18:59song goes. Wow, Well you got you gotta go there. And I
- 19:06know the Midwest, you know. I have my best friends from Columbus,
- 19:11Ohio, my other friends from Michigan. I was marrying a woman from Chicago.
- 19:17I have been all around the Midwest, so we got family out that
- 19:22way. So it's all good. We're New Yorkers. But in essence,
- 19:26it's a great world, and everywhere that you are can be as wonderful as
- 19:33just like you say, especially if you find your happy place. Yeah.
- 19:34Yeah, September twenty first, I'm marking my calendar in New York City.
- 19:38Yeah, I would send you more about it. It's gonna be National Day
- 19:42of Peace and Ecology. We're really we're really a lot more also from now
- 19:47focused well, we've been involved with ecologies for millions of years. But um
- 19:52ecology is another one of those that are taking prime prime concern. Let's put
- 19:57it like that climate, that's a big thing. Fur We're again, We'll
- 20:04see you again. Ye bye bye