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The DiCecco Daily: Storylines I'm Watching For In Joint Practices With Patriots · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Today. What's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of The check Odaily. It's Andrew
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  Speaker 2: de Checko, Eagles beat reporter for Insidethebirds dot Com and
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  Speaker 2: I am just outside of Foxborough.
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  Speaker 1: I have arrived.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready for the next two days where the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: and Patriots will hold joint practices at Gillette Stadium. I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't be more excited. Might not sound it because I've
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  Speaker 2: had a long drive and I am kind of tired,
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  Speaker 2: but come tomorrow morning, it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: It should be live, as they say, and so.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking a lot about the joint practices on
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  Speaker 2: my ride up and some of the things that I'm
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  Speaker 2: most looking forward to seeing, and that's what this podcast
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  Speaker 2: today is going to be devoted to. We'll start with
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles defensive backs versus the Patriots wide receivers, and
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots have a reconfigured receiving corps led by AJ Brown,
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  Speaker 2: but they also signed Romeo Dobbs, formerly of the Green
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  Speaker 2: Bay Packers, to a pretty lucrative free agent deal. Kaishan
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  Speaker 2: Boutet is there as well, So those three receivers will
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  Speaker 2: be going up against Quinjai Mitchell, Cooper Dejen and Rieke Woollen.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I've gotten asked this a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that you're gonna see a lot
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  Speaker 2: of sparks with AJ Brown and the Eagles defensive backs
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  Speaker 2: in the way of scrappiness or anything like that. You
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  Speaker 2: have to remember that AJ Brown is friends with Quinya
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell and Cooper Degen. That's not to say that there
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  Speaker 2: won't be some trash talking back and forth. But later on,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you my pre practice prediction for one player
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  Speaker 2: on each side that I'm expecting maybe to go at
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  Speaker 2: it just based off of their their past history.
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  Speaker 1: And things like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know that AJ Brown is going to
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  Speaker 2: be someone that is gonna mix it up with.
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  Speaker 1: Quinyon and Coop.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think that it should be spirited in
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  Speaker 2: the way that there could be some back and forth
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  Speaker 2: in terms of words. But AJ Brown, by all accounts,
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  Speaker 2: has had a good training camp there establishing a rapport
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  Speaker 2: with Drake may and that's going to be something to
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  Speaker 2: keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 1: Because AJ Brown knows Quinya Mitchell and Cooper de Gene
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  Speaker 1: very well.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to see a lot of Quenya Mitchell, but
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  Speaker 2: Quinya Mitchell also knows AJ Brown pretty well and they
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  Speaker 2: had some awesome battles over the past.
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  Speaker 1: Couple of years at Eagles training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like an iron sharpens iron, both players made
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  Speaker 2: one another better.
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  Speaker 1: But this is different. The stakes are a little bit higher.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be way more intense because this is
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  Speaker 2: as close as you're going to get to a game setting.
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  Speaker 2: This is where all of the starters are going to
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  Speaker 2: get the most work of the preseason. They're not going
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  Speaker 2: to play in the preseason, so joint practices are really
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  Speaker 2: dedicated to getting them tuned up for the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: So they're gonna probably all be on one field, and
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  Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of the down the roster players,
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  Speaker 2: the depth pieces on another field.
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  Speaker 1: There'll be some.
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  Speaker 2: Special teams drills intermixed and some one on ones which
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  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see where Quinya Mitchell and AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Is gonna be must watch.
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  Speaker 2: But also some of the offensive line and defensive line
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  Speaker 2: battles will be certainly something that I will be chronicling.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have all the notes on Inside the Birds dot
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  Speaker 2: I'll do. It's gonna be a little bit of an
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  Speaker 2: abbreviated to check odaily. But you're also going to get
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  Speaker 2: myself and Adam Kaplan. Adam will also be out here
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  Speaker 2: and we're gonna do a podcast immediately after practice and
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  Speaker 2: we'll have that up for you guys as soon as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, this is going to be something that I'll
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  Speaker 1: be watching.
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  Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs is an interesting player because he has good
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  Speaker 2: body control, he has good size, and Drake May throws
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  Speaker 2: a nice ball.
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  Speaker 1: So they're time seems to be where you would expect
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  Speaker 1: it to be. They've they've been.
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  Speaker 2: Available all training camp, which certainly helps, and so that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be something where this summer, Quinyon and Cooper
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  Speaker 2: haven't really been challenged all that much because let's not
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  Speaker 2: forget DeVante Smith has missed a ton of practices with
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  Speaker 2: a hamstring injury. Makay Lemon of course has missed time
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  Speaker 2: with the hamstring injury, so they haven't had the full
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  Speaker 2: compment of wide receivers to really test the Eagles starting secondary,
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  Speaker 2: which is where this becomes interesting. I think the battle
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  Speaker 2: that I am also fascinated to see is Dobbs versus
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  Speaker 2: Rieke Wollen, and Riek Wollen was the star of the
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  Speaker 2: spring for the Eagles, but he's had a relatively quiet
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  Speaker 2: training camp. There's been moments where he's gotten got on
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  Speaker 2: some routes, and I think he needs to be a
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  Speaker 2: little bit tighter in his in his coverage and in
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  Speaker 2: and out of breaks. I think is where receivers some
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  Speaker 2: of the quicker ones that are that are pretty shift
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  Speaker 2: and explosive and have some juice. They're the ones that
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  Speaker 2: I think have been able to create some mismatches with woman.
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  Speaker 2: Not saying they've been beating him down the field, but
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of creating separation. I think as a
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  Speaker 2: bigger corner, those are some of the challenges that he's
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  Speaker 2: going to have to face, which is why technique becomes.
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  Speaker 1: All the more paramount.
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  Speaker 2: So Dobbs and Rique Wohen is something that I have highlighted,
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  Speaker 2: not as much as I have at the top of
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  Speaker 2: the list, which is aj Brown and Cooper dejen But
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  Speaker 2: then there's also Kaishan Bhute who's kind of flying under
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  Speaker 2: the radar a little bit. He's likely going to see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Cooper Dejeen. Same with the Mario Douglas,
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  Speaker 2: another player who is a really effective chain mover, not
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  Speaker 2: an explosive or dynamic player by any stretch, But I imagine
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  Speaker 2: that those two guys are going to see a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Cooper dejen The interior offensive line play is going
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  Speaker 2: to be something that I am very fascinated to watch
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  Speaker 2: unfold the interior for the Patriots, they have left guard
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  Speaker 2: Elijah Vera Tucker, center Jared Wilson, and right guard Mike
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  Speaker 2: goe on Weenu and so I think Moro Jomo mentioned
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  Speaker 2: that he went against Onenu a lot when they played
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four when the Eagles were last up here.
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  Speaker 2: But this is going to be a fascinating matchup because
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Carter, Moro Jomo, and Jordan Davis have been absolute
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  Speaker 2: game wreckers this summer.
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  Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with a Jomo.
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  Speaker 2: Needless to say, Jayalen Carter has been as advertised, but
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  Speaker 2: a Jomo is just such a fun player to watch
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  Speaker 2: because of the way that he wins despite not having
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  Speaker 2: the size that you expect to see from a defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He is a feisty player, he's strong, he's violent, and.
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  Speaker 2: You couple that with Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis against
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  Speaker 2: that interior, that should be something that will be especially
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  Speaker 2: compelling to watch, especially during the one on ones. But
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  Speaker 2: the interior for the Eagles have been a strength in camp,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to see how they fare and stack
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  Speaker 2: up against the Patriots interior offensive line. This is more
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  Speaker 2: of a general storyline that I'll be monitoring, and that
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  Speaker 2: is just the Eagles passing game because it's been improved
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  Speaker 2: over the.
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  Speaker 1: Last week or so.
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  Speaker 2: The Jalen Hurts has been getting the ball out quicker,
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  Speaker 2: but there hasn't been a lot of explosive plays. It's
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  Speaker 2: been more effective, efficient short to intermediate completions, keeping the
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  Speaker 2: offense on schedule, much like you can expect to see
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  Speaker 2: in a true West Coast offense, which is exactly what
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Are aiming for.
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  Speaker 2: But the Patriots have a secondary led by none other
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  Speaker 2: than Christian Gonzales at corner. They also have Carlton Davis
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  Speaker 2: Marcus Jones as a nickel.
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  Speaker 1: He's also a.
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  Speaker 2: Really good return man for them. Craig Woodson is a
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  Speaker 2: really underrated safety. He's their strong safety and they have
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  Speaker 2: the players to match up with the Eagles, And we'll
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  Speaker 2: have to wait and see if they're gonna even have
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  Speaker 2: Mikayla available, but if not, then that then thrust either
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown or Elijah Moore or a combination of the two.
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  Speaker 2: As the third receiver. Darius Cooper will get some work.
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  Speaker 2: This is something that Yeah, DeVante Smith returned the other
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  Speaker 2: day Monday in a limited capacity. I imagine he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be full go for these practices. We'll have to
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  Speaker 2: wait and see on that. But apart from that, this
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  Speaker 2: will be a really good test to see where Dontavian
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  Speaker 2: Wicks is in this offense and if he's able to
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  Speaker 2: elevate his performance because a lot's going to be expected
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  Speaker 2: of him this season. He didn't dress on Saturday. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles have high expectations for him. He's going to have
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  Speaker 2: a pivotal role in the offense, and I think this
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  Speaker 2: will be the really first true measuring stick that we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to see Dontavian Wicks matched up against a pretty
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  Speaker 2: decent secondary And the timing between Hertz and Wicks has
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  Speaker 2: been something that I've noted throughout training camp.
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  Speaker 1: It's developing nicely.
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  Speaker 2: They have a budding chemistry there that's pretty apparent, but
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  Speaker 2: now you want to see how does it manifest against
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  Speaker 2: another team, because sometimes, for clarity purposes, you watch the
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  Speaker 2: same matchups day after day in training camp, and.
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  Speaker 1: You maybe lose a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's fair that to say that you might lose sight
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  Speaker 2: of what's what because they're going against the same players,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, sometimes there's a little redundancy there, which
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  Speaker 2: is why this is hugely critical to shake things up,
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  Speaker 2: get to the joint practice and see how they stack
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  Speaker 2: up against other talent. And this is a talented team,
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  Speaker 2: a pretty solid defense, and this will be a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good gauge as to where the Eagles are from a
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  Speaker 2: passing game standpoint, which is why Jalen Hurt was to say,
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  Speaker 2: as the quarterback that somebody you're always gonna watch, but
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  Speaker 2: I want to see just the overall efficiency of the operation.
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  Speaker 1: Is it clean?
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  Speaker 2: Are they getting the ball out on time? Are the
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  Speaker 2: receivers able to make plays and help their quarterback? Are
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  Speaker 2: they able to separate or is it going to be
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  Speaker 2: something where it's a little clunky. It's a parent that
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  Speaker 2: they're unveiling something new, but it's gonna take a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of time.
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  Speaker 1: Like I want to see where they are. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see where they are, and this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a really good test for that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's also not forget that the Patriots have a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good defensive.
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  Speaker 1: Line that could bear down and provide some pressure there.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned the secondary, but they also have Milton Williams,
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  Speaker 2: Christian barrymore, Harold Landry off the edge, Draymond Jones is
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  Speaker 2: there and so they're from all three levels. They have
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  Speaker 2: enough there that it could make things a little bit challenging.
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  Speaker 2: But I also think that the Eagles are starting to
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  Speaker 2: build something.
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  Speaker 1: It's been gradual offensively.
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  Speaker 2: But as I've noted, it is something that you can
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  Speaker 2: see and improvement that you know almost almost daily.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: They had a sloppier practice on Monday, So I want
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  Speaker 2: to see if they can sort of flip the script
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  Speaker 2: there and approach it a little bit differently. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to. I imagine that you're going to see
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  Speaker 2: a really intense set of joint practices and the offense
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  Speaker 2: is going to look to to sort of build some
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  Speaker 2: consistency there. And Sean manny into that end, this is
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  Speaker 2: a big couple days for him, I thought he while
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  Speaker 2: the offense didn't perform anything close to the Eagle standard,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that from a procedural standpoint, they did some
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  Speaker 2: good things getting in and out of the huddle. They
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  Speaker 2: weren't up against the playclock, it wasn't clunky in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: Just from an execution standpoint, it was not where they
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  Speaker 2: need to be. So how does the execution look at
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  Speaker 2: one Wednesday and on Thursday, where the stakes are a
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  Speaker 2: little bit higher and you have your start out there.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be something that I think is easy.
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  Speaker 2: I think if I had to pick my Eagles training
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: camp fight, everyone wants to go for a J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like a lot of the a lot of
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  Speaker 2: fans expect that AJ is gonna, you know, is gonna
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: mix it up with some Eagles. I mean that very
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: well may be the case. I am not I don't
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  Speaker 2: foresee that because I know that he has some relationships there.
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  Speaker 2: That's not to say that he's not gonna have his
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  Speaker 2: emotions high. And you know the heat also factors into it.
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  Speaker 2: It just kind of brings out extra emotion and it
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  Speaker 2: revs up your intensity all that much more. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go with the trenches. One player on the trenches
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  Speaker 2: for the Eagles, Tyler Steen. Tyler Steen has never been
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  Speaker 2: one to shy away from scrapping. He had one earlier
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  Speaker 2: and a dust up earlier in training camp with ty
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  Speaker 2: Ty Robinson where he kind of mauled him off the
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  Speaker 2: line and laid on top of him. Tyler Stein's a
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  Speaker 2: take He's a quiet guy, but he's also a take
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  Speaker 2: no nonsense kind of guy as well. He's likely going
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  Speaker 2: to see a lot of reps. I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be a player that the Eagles spell
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  Speaker 2: on any occasion, much like they would for maybe Lane
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  Speaker 2: Johnson or Landon Dickerson. So I think Tyler Stein's going
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  Speaker 2: to see a ton of snaps over these next couple
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  Speaker 2: of days. And if I had to pick a player
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  Speaker 2: on the Patriots side just based off of watching him play,
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  Speaker 2: he's had some hits.
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  Speaker 1: I'd look at the one that he had on Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Dart and that's.
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  Speaker 2: Linebacker and former Eagle Christian Ellis, who plays really with
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  Speaker 2: his hair on fire.
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  Speaker 1: He throws his body around.
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  Speaker 2: He's sort of like a heat seeking missile when he's
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  Speaker 2: coming downhill. And if Tyler Stein gets a chance to
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: get to the second level, if this is sort of
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  Speaker 2: a if this becomes a back and forth through practice
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  Speaker 2: where Christianellis is pushing it to the limit a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: I think, if I had to guess, Stein would be
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  Speaker 2: the guy who sets the tone there and maybe pours
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: cold water on the energy that christianelle is putting forth.
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  Speaker 2: But that's just kind of my early feel for it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot can change sometimes pregame warm ups or not
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: pregame pre practice warm ups, you can kind of see
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  Speaker 2: who's who's feeling it that day, who's chirping a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and that maybe gives you a better read on the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: way that it could go. But I do think that
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you're going to see something. It's two days a lot
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  Speaker 2: the starters are going to be going. The Eagles had
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that fight last Thursday with Moro Jomo and Fred Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: They had a little dust up earlier that week which
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: was Tyler Stein and ty Robinson, So it just feels
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: like this is the point of the season of the summer,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I should say, where you're in the dog days, you
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: get to go against another team, your eyes are probably wide,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you're probably chomping at the bit to get out there.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the most work that they're going to get,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the most quality work that they're going to get, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: because of that, the intensity ratchets up all that much more.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: There's plenty more for you on the Inside the Birds platform,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: including the podcast that I refer to earlier, where it'll
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: be myself and Adam Kaplan will have that. Tomorrow I'll
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: do the Checkodaily, where I focus on something in particular.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be a long podcast, but I'll have
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: something for you as well individually, and of course my
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: observations as always will be on Inside the Birds dot com.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So be sure to keep your eyes out for all
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the things that will have come in your way.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot wait, and we'll have that and I'll just
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: stay tuned. But for now, that's going to do it
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  Speaker 2: for this episode of The Checko Daily. I'm Andrew de
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  Speaker 2: Checko and I'll catch you all on the next one.