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Speaker 1: Peter Kredlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Caroline Marcus
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Speaker 2: filling in for Peter Kredlin. Let's take a look at
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Speaker 2: tonight's stories. Here's what's coming up on the program. Sydney
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Speaker 2: Siders won't miss out on the famous New Ye'sy fireworks
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Speaker 2: after Grinch union workers called a truce with the state government.
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Speaker 2: Over to the UK, where membership of Conservative Party Reform
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Speaker 2: UK is set to overtake the Tories. GB News's Patrick
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Speaker 2: Christie's will join me later and finally I'll reveal the
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Speaker 2: Palestine chocolate being sold in Australia misleading customers about being kosher.
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Speaker 2: But first, a big development in the story I brought
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Speaker 2: to you last night on the show. I exposed these
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Speaker 2: neo Nazis trying to hold Melbourne and this country to ransom,
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Speaker 2: calling for white men to fight back against Jews and
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Speaker 2: for Jews to go right on the very steps of
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Speaker 2: the Victorian Parliament.
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Speaker 3: Why Man, Why Man, Freedom, Man, Freedom with the white Man.
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Speaker 2: I revealed police had executed a search warrant on an
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Speaker 2: address in Monturna South in Melbourne's East yesterday in relation
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Speaker 2: to the anti Semitic sign the men were holding. We
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Speaker 2: now understand that address to be the home of Joel Davis,
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Speaker 2: the group's ringleader, the only unmasked member of the group
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Speaker 2: that day. Well following our report, mister Davis handed himself
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Speaker 2: into police, tweeting a few hours after the show, I
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Speaker 2: decided to turn myself into authorities earlier this evening.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Get it over with so I could go visit my family.
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Speaker 2: They have released me without charge for now, they said,
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Speaker 2: I'm being investigated for grossly offensive public conduct and racial vilification.
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Speaker 2: Everyone enjoy your Christmas, but use your spare time to
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Speaker 2: keep the pressure up on the Jews and their servants
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Speaker 2: in the media and government online. Late this morning, Victoria
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Speaker 2: Police confirmed that arrest, saying they've arrested a man who
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Speaker 2: allegedly led an anti Semitic protest in Melbourne's CBD last
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Speaker 2: Friday evening, in which a banner allegedly displaying an anti
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Speaker 2: Semitic sign was displayed. They've interviewed Davis in relation to
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Speaker 2: grossly offensive public conduct, racial and Religious Tolerance Act offenses,
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Speaker 2: and offensive behavior. While a brief of evidence and the
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Speaker 2: proposed charges are submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
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Speaker 2: None of the other nineteen so masked men have been
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Speaker 2: arrested yet. Police say they are still working to identify
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Speaker 2: the others involved and are appealing for anyone with information,
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Speaker 2: including CCTV or dashcam footage, to come forward. Now back
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Speaker 2: to Davis and this cool to action for followers to
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Speaker 2: keep the pressure up on the Jews and their servants
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Speaker 2: in the media and government online. I've personally been targeted
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Speaker 2: online by them since last night's show with some of
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Speaker 2: the most repugnant anti Semitic abuse I've experienced.
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Speaker 4: In my life.
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Speaker 2: And oh there has been quite a bit of that.
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Speaker 2: There's been this image during the during the rounds online
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Speaker 2: reminiscent of Nazi Germany erastyle propaganda. Yep, wearing the same
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Speaker 2: dress I'm wearing on set tonight too. I do love it.
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Speaker 2: There was I said on X last night. I still
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Speaker 2: think I rock a beard and hooked nose. But I
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Speaker 2: won't let them intimidate me. They say they want free speech,
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Speaker 2: but what they really want is to incite hatred against
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Speaker 2: Jews for us to go to leave the country. And
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to disappoint them, but we're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 2: My real concern is why has it taken authorities so
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Speaker 2: long to act on this Three days for someone who
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Speaker 2: exposed his face and later identified himself online, Davis ultimately
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Speaker 2: had to hand himself into authorities.
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Speaker 4: We put these questions.
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Speaker 2: To the Victorian Police Chief Commissioner Shane Patton, as well
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Speaker 2: as Victorian premierges into Alan today. Why did it take
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Speaker 2: police three days to arrest Davis and for him to
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Speaker 2: hand himself in and why charges are yet to be
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Speaker 2: laid in spite of what appears to be clear racial
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Speaker 2: vilification and incitement of violence. Philification and incitement that happened
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Speaker 2: not only on the steps of Parliament but in numerous
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Speaker 2: online posts, including this one from earlier this month. The
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Speaker 2: only solution to anti Semitism that has ever actually worked
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Speaker 2: is removing all the Jews from your country and keeping
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Speaker 2: them out a final solution, if you will, or maybe
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Speaker 2: this repost reading.
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Speaker 4: When you look into it, you actually find out Hitler
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Speaker 4: was too nice.
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Speaker 2: Former Treasurer Josh Fredenberg has been among those who have
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Speaker 2: made the point that this anti Semitic protest came days
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Speaker 2: after a synagogue was firebombed, and that this government has
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Speaker 2: failed yet again to protect our community. Australian Jewish Association
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Speaker 2: CEO Robert Gregory told Sky News it's puzzling to see
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Speaker 2: that Joel Davis was released without yet being charged. The
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Speaker 2: soft approach of labor, governments and of police forces over
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Speaker 2: the past fourteen months has em pro Palestinian extremists. We
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Speaker 2: are now seeing a similar phenomenon with neo Nazis. We
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Speaker 2: ask the Victorian premiere if she accepted her government's inadequate
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Speaker 2: response to anti Semitism has emboldened the neo Nazis, and
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Speaker 2: what does she plan to do now to tackle it specifically,
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Speaker 2: not just wait for any potential new laws to be
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Speaker 2: debated in months to come. But she didn't respond, her
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Speaker 2: spokeswoman simply referring us to a tweet the Premier posted
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Speaker 2: to x on Friday, which read tonight, Victoria sends its
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Speaker 2: love and solidarity to our Jewish community. You are part
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Speaker 2: of us, and to the Nazis on the front steps,
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Speaker 2: it is you who are the freedom haters and we
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Speaker 2: will drive out. Love and solidarity are nice sentiments, Premiere.
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Speaker 4: But what are you going to do right now to
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Speaker 4: stop this?
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Speaker 2: The way I see it, I believe those police officers
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Speaker 2: on the grind around want to do more. Speaking to
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Speaker 2: my colleague Shari Markson at an event earlier this year,
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Speaker 2: Opposition leader Peter Dutton, a former KOP himself, had this
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Speaker 2: to say about the lack of police action on the
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Speaker 2: night of the October nine protests at the Sydney Opera
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Speaker 2: House last year.
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Speaker 5: And I can tell you there's no doubt in my
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Speaker 5: mind that.
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Speaker 6: For the average police officer that this would be completely
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Speaker 6: and utterly offensive as well to be told to stand
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Speaker 6: back with your hands in your pocket.
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Speaker 4: So do you think they are being told that?
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Speaker 5: There's no doubt in my mind.
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Speaker 2: We have the laws in this country, they just aren't
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Speaker 2: being enforced. And you almost can't blame the neo Nazis
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Speaker 2: for seeing this lack of law enforcement and grasping their opportunity, because,
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Speaker 2: after all, if extremists on the other end of the
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Speaker 2: political spectrum are allowed to spout their vile hatred and
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism, why shouldn't they.
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Speaker 4: Our laws need to start.
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Speaker 2: Being enforced for all, and it needs to begin now.
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Speaker 2: While we're on the topic of anti Semitism, Sydney University
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Speaker 2: and its handling of Jew hatred and anti Israel protests
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Speaker 2: on campus has been one of the biggest stories of
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Speaker 2: the year. Now I can reveal a formal complaint has
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Speaker 2: been made about yet another staff member for making offensive
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Speaker 2: comments about Jews online. Sydney University's senior lecturer, Stuart Jackson,
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Speaker 2: appears to have posted this tweet on x last week.
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Speaker 2: I rather think Palestinians don't necessarily wish death to all Jews,
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Speaker 2: but under the current assaults, I would forgive the sentiment.
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Speaker 2: His account appears to have since been deleted now. Doctor
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Speaker 2: Jackson is a senior lecturer in politics at the university
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Speaker 2: and a bio on academic website. The Conversation reveals he
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Speaker 2: was involved in Green politics for twenty years as a
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Speaker 2: party activist and national convener of the Australia Greens. Probably
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Speaker 2: not surprising then, that he holds the views that are
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Speaker 2: complained about, given what we've seen from that party over
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Speaker 2: the last year. A formal complaint was lodged with the
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Speaker 2: university yesterday about Dr Jackson's post, but it's unclear whether
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Speaker 2: the institution had been made aware of it prior to that.
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Speaker 2: I exposed only three weeks ago. Another academic at the university,
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Speaker 2: Joel Griggs, who's Sidney Uni itself referred to police after
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Speaker 2: he posted online threats about a Jewish group as well
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Speaker 2: as Sky News hosts and staff. Those tweets included threats
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Speaker 2: like I was just doing my job. Won't cut it
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Speaker 2: when the hoy Ploi finally start lopping off heads and
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Speaker 2: put these traitorer's scum up against the wall. Despite referring
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Speaker 2: him to police, though, the university said it couldn't take
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Speaker 2: any disciplinary action against Griggs because the posts were made
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Speaker 2: in a personal capacity. Now, as for doctor Jackson, we
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Speaker 2: reached out to him for an explanation of his tweet.
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Speaker 2: While the university is shut until January seventh and not
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Speaker 2: handling fresh complaints until then, a spokeswoman told us when
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Speaker 2: we find breaches of our policies or codes of conduct,
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Speaker 2: we don't hesitate to take disciplinary action as appropriate. Now
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Speaker 2: this all comes as we can also reveal. Tonight, the
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Speaker 2: university handed down the findings from its investigation into the
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Speaker 2: zoom bombing of an online meeting hosted by the Australian
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Speaker 2: Jewish Association and former Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson in May.
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Speaker 7: And our belief and well can you show you matthy stop?
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Speaker 5: This one has to go?
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Speaker 7: Can you stopping the old fats.
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Speaker 4: These are bunch of on this munch and grubs, idiots, yappers, hang.
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Speaker 5: On, I'll just fix this up.
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Speaker 2: In its report, the university identified two of the infiltrators
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Speaker 2: as university students and members of the u SID Muslim
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Speaker 2: Encampment What's Up Group, but it said there was insufficient
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Speaker 2: evidence that the two students had personally engaged in making
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Speaker 2: the abusive comments, or that they'd personally filmed and dosed
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Speaker 2: the people taking part in the event. Still, a finding
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Speaker 2: of misconduct was made against the students and an undisclosed
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Speaker 2: penalty imposed. The university won't confirm though, if these students
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Speaker 2: remain on campus. New South Wales Police also looked into
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Speaker 2: the incident, but a spokesperson confirmed today while a report
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Speaker 2: was received, there was insufficient evidence to proceed. Vice Chancellor
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Speaker 2: Mark Scott's weak handling of the crisis has been to
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Speaker 2: the great shame of Australia's oldest university. Professor Scott has
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Speaker 2: already admitted to failing Jewish students and staff, but it
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Speaker 2: doesn't exactly inspire confidence when staff and students who engage
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Speaker 2: in hateful conduct like the type we've exposed tonight, appeared
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Speaker 2: to be allowed to remain on campus. Let's hope the
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Speaker 2: university does much better in twenty twenty five. Now joining
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Speaker 2: me to discuss this story and much more is Robert Gregory,
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Speaker 2: CEO of the Australian Jewish Association.
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Speaker 4: Robert, thank you for coming on tonight.
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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me, Karen.
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Speaker 4: Look, it's great to have you there. So much to discuss.
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Speaker 2: Let's go first to these scandals involving Sydney University. Now,
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Speaker 2: you lodged a report about senior lecturer Stuart Jackson, who
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Speaker 2: appears to have tweeted. I rather think Palestinians don't necessarily
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Speaker 2: with which death to all Jews, but under the current assaults,
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Speaker 2: I would forgive the sentiment why did you report this?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 8: I think first of all, nobody would be surprised that
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Speaker 8: the University of Sydney is back in the news headlines
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Speaker 8: when they failed to deal appropriately with their complaints. This
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Speaker 8: encourages further behavior. So what I think a good idea
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Speaker 8: for people to do is switch the word Jews or
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Speaker 8: Jewish people for any other minority and just think would
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Speaker 8: that be accepted in Australia in twenty twenty four, it's
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Speaker 8: talking about the acceptability of calling for the deaths of
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Speaker 8: all members of a minority group. It's not acceptable, and
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Speaker 8: it's not acceptable from a senior lecturer who's teaching young
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Speaker 8: students in politics.
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Speaker 2: Now, the report was only made yesterday and the university
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Speaker 2: is closed until January seven, As we said earlier, But
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Speaker 2: what do you think should happen to this senior lecturer
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Speaker 2: once the university gets onto this complaint.
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Speaker 8: I think some sort of public condemnation, making it clear
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Speaker 8: that the university doesn't find this type of language acceptable
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Speaker 8: and whatever disciplinary findings are appropriate that they would implement
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Speaker 8: if it was a member of any other minority being described.
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Speaker 2: Okay, And as I revealed earlier as well, the university
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Speaker 2: has handed down its findings into the two students who
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Speaker 2: zoom bombed and infiltrated that AJA online event. They've said
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Speaker 2: that there have been misconduct findings. The university has said
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Speaker 2: that and penalties imposed on these students.
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Speaker 4: But what do you make of this response that you
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Speaker 4: got from the university.
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Speaker 8: Look, we've been disappointed in the university's response since the beginning.
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Speaker 8: This happened towards the beginning of the year. We made
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Speaker 8: a complaint. Originally, nothing was done. I had to contact
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Speaker 8: Mark Scott. Then it started to get looked at again.
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Speaker 8: It just sat there for a while, and then we
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Speaker 8: mentioned in our submission to the Senate inquiry into university
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Speaker 8: anti Semitism, and it seemed like the university finally started
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Speaker 8: investigating it. But again they haven't disclosed what the penalties are.
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Speaker 8: They won't publicly say who the students are, even though
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Speaker 8: we know, and they did say that they're associated with
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Speaker 8: the Muslim students group there and they were quite prominent
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Speaker 8: with the encampment. So again the university should be coming
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Speaker 8: up publicly and saying this kind of behavior is unacceptable.
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Speaker 8: You can't use university premises to harass the Jewish community
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Speaker 8: in this way.
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Speaker 2: They've really got to change how they approach all these
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Speaker 2: issues if they're serious about their.
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Speaker 4: Commitment to tackling this problem. I think now.
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Speaker 2: Look, I also spoke at the top of the show
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Speaker 2: about the arrest of neo Nazi Joel Davis last night,
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Speaker 2: three days after the protest on the steps of Victorian Parliament.
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Speaker 4: Now you've said that it's puzzling.
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Speaker 2: He's been released without yet being charged, and you've blamed
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Speaker 2: the governments for their lack of action on this issue
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Speaker 2: for allowing this sort of conduct to take place.
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Speaker 4: Can you expand on that?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the whole thing is puzzling here. This
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Speaker 8: took place on the steps of Victorian Parliament. This should
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Speaker 8: be the most protected site in Victoria. I think we
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Speaker 8: can even see police in the back of the video.
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Speaker 8: But either way, this camera is all around. Why was
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Speaker 8: a dozen or so or twenty Nazis allowed to march
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Speaker 8: masked right up to Victorian Parliament. Nobody stopped the mask
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Speaker 8: them what they're doing and allowed to make their speech
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Speaker 8: and carry on. So from the beginning it should have
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Speaker 8: been treated more seriously.
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Speaker 5: But what I was.
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Speaker 8: Referring to is the government, the federal government and the
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Speaker 8: Victorian government. Their weakness on some of these extremist protests
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Speaker 8: we've seen for well over fourteen months now has led
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Speaker 8: to this. You know, as you said in your editorial,
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Speaker 8: the new Nazis are watching. They see that the government
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Speaker 8: doesn't take anti semitism seriously.
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Speaker 5: In Victoria.
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Speaker 8: We've had protests outside synagogues, we haven't seen people charge
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Speaker 8: and they know they can get away with it, so
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Speaker 8: that's why they do it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Now, look, here's a bit of a strange one.
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Speaker 2: A somewhat high profile Sydney convenience store owner, and look
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Speaker 2: who knew there was such a thing. Well, he's recently
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Speaker 2: released a chocolate bar called Palestine Chocolate. Now they sell
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Speaker 2: for nine ninety nine a block, or one hundred and
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Speaker 2: forty dollars for a box of fifteen, and ten percent
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Speaker 2: of every sale goes directly to help the people in Palestine.
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Speaker 2: The chocolate also claims to be halal and kosher on
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Speaker 2: the convenience stores website, and it's packaging has a logo
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Speaker 2: that says one hundred percent kosher. Yet Robert, you've discovered
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Speaker 2: that this product has not actually been certified as kosher,
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Speaker 2: and you've made a complaint to the Consumer watchdog.
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Speaker 8: That's right, the chocolate is one hundred percent not kosher.
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Speaker 2: No orthodoxity happen ninety nine percent kosher.
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Speaker 8: Exactly, it's ee the kosher, it's not. And this is
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Speaker 8: you know, no, there's several organizations that approve CO certification.
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Speaker 8: None of them have done so with this. We see
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Speaker 8: this as an attempt, you know, like what much of
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Speaker 8: the pro Palestine movement is to appropriate Jewish culture, Jewish identity,
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Speaker 8: and you know, you can't just claim something as kosher
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Speaker 8: because you feel like it needs to be supervised, the ingredients,
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Speaker 8: the equipment, there's a lot of things involved.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've spoken to the Redferne convenience store owner has
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Speaker 2: m Seta, who tells me that while he did not
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Speaker 2: go through the process of certifying the product as kosher,
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Speaker 2: he says it's made purely from ingredients that are themselves
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Speaker 2: certified kosher. But Robert, that's not quite enough when it
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Speaker 2: comes to kosher, is it exactly?
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Speaker 8: That's just not how it works. And if he was
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Speaker 8: genuinely interested, he'd approach the Jewish community and find out
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Speaker 8: how kosher works without just claiming that it is.
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Speaker 2: Well, finally, Robert, last night I exclusively revealed the story
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Speaker 2: of a Jewish host who says she axed from a
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Speaker 2: Sydney radio stations skid row for refusing to support Hamas.
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Speaker 2: Now this story has been getting picked up by other
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Speaker 2: media outlets today, It's gone huge online as well, and
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Speaker 2: this station appears to have taken down its social media accounts.
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Speaker 4: What did you make of Nicole's story?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think, first of all, you know, thank you
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Speaker 8: for exposing this story. It was really important story that
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Speaker 8: to get out there, and you know, very brave of
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Speaker 8: Nicoleta to come forward. It was, but you know it's shocking.
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Speaker 8: This is Marrickville, this is in Sydney's in a West
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Speaker 8: Anthony ALBERANIZI seat, the home of woke and this is
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Speaker 8: how people are treated. And I think some of the
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Speaker 8: things you revealed that taxpayers are paying the bill for
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Speaker 8: this radio station. That needs to change, you know, the
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Speaker 8: local member, the Prime Minister needs to take this seriously,
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Speaker 8: the Communications minister because you know, once again, you know,
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Speaker 8: if any other minority was excluded in this way and
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Speaker 8: forced to you know, take part in things against you
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Speaker 8: know who they are, it just wouldn't be allowed.
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Speaker 2: There is such a double standard, isn't there when it
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Speaker 2: comes to the Jewish can And don't worry, we will
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Speaker 2: continue to follow up the story. I've got some tips.
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Speaker 2: I'm following it up for later this week. Robert Gregory,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: Coming up next on the show, let's head over to
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Speaker 2: Europe where a Saudi doctor accused of the horrific Christmas
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Speaker 2: market attack in Magdeburg, Germany, makes his first court appearance. Now,
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Speaker 2: the fifty year old man allegedly rammed his car into
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Speaker 2: a crowd, killing five and injuring more than two hundred others.
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Speaker 2: Among those victims killed is nine year old's Andre Gleistner.
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Speaker 2: His grieving mother, Desiree Gleaesner, posted on Facebook, let my
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Speaker 2: little teddy bear fly around the world again. Andre didn't
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Speaker 2: do anything to anyone. He was only with us nine years.
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Speaker 2: Why you I don't understand. It is simply too horrific
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Speaker 2: for words, especially at Christmas, but making it all the
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Speaker 2: more difficult to grasp. The man a q of this
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Speaker 2: senseless crime reportedly shed anti Islam content online. Well, joining
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Speaker 2: me now live from London is News UK correspondent Sophie Ellsworth. Sophie,
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Speaker 2: great to see you, even on such a tragic story,
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Speaker 2: and especially since it's the first time.
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Speaker 4: We speak with you in this new role.
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Speaker 2: Tell us the latest about the story, because so much
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Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to make sense, including the potential motive here.
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Speaker 4: Well, Caroline, great to be with you.
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Speaker 9: I spent several days in Magdeburg in Germany covering this
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Speaker 9: tragic disaster that unfolded. It's absolutely rocked the community, with
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Speaker 9: five dead, more than two hundred injured, and people wanting
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Speaker 9: to know, how could this happen? Now, there's been a
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Speaker 9: lot of reporting that this Saudi doctor had made pretty
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Speaker 9: horrendous claims online. You know, he was very anti Muslim,
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Speaker 9: He had Islamophobic views that he was sharing online. And
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Speaker 9: this is really being questioned within Germany. It's become a
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Speaker 9: lot of political unrests there. There were protests overnight over
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Speaker 9: what officials knew and what police knew about him in
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Speaker 9: the lead up to this event, because all reports are
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Speaker 9: saying that he had many pretty horrendous claims that he
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Speaker 9: was making online threats to the community. And then obviously
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Speaker 9: this absolutely shocking attack happened on Friday night. So there's
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Speaker 9: a lot of questions that are yet to be answered
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Speaker 9: on this. But that is a town in absolute morning
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Speaker 9: at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it is such a horrific crime. Well, we will
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Speaker 2: wait to get updates from you about this terrible story.
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Speaker 4: Let's turn down to some royal news though, and King.
22:46
Speaker 2: Charles is set to deliver this year's Christmas message from
22:50
Speaker 2: a former hospital chapel. As it's been reported, he specifically
22:54
Speaker 2: wanted a location with a connection to healthcare workers and
22:58
Speaker 2: while Bucking and Power has remained tight left on the
23:02
Speaker 2: exact type of cancer the King is battling. They've said
23:05
Speaker 2: his treatment will continue into twenty twenty five. His treatment
23:10
Speaker 2: has been moving in a positive direction, they said, and
23:13
Speaker 2: as a managed condition, the treatment cycle will continue into
23:17
Speaker 2: next year. Now, Sophie, how has all of this news
23:21
Speaker 2: been received over the.
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Speaker 9: Well, it's you know, obviously been very bad year for
23:30
Speaker 9: the Royals. We've had the health scare with the King
23:33
Speaker 9: and also the Princess of Wales. So really the Brits
23:37
Speaker 9: are looking for some good messaging obviously in the days
23:41
Speaker 9: up to Christmas, and the King has chosen this location
23:44
Speaker 9: which is just off Oxford Street in central London, at
23:48
Speaker 9: this very beautiful chapel.
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Speaker 7: And it's quite unusual for the head.
23:54
Speaker 9: Of the monarchy to do and address a Christmas address
23:57
Speaker 9: outside of the locations, whether it be Buckingham, Windsor Castle
24:01
Speaker 9: or at Sandringham, which is what the late Queen did
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Speaker 9: for decades. This has been a couple of decades since
24:08
Speaker 9: there was a message that wasn't delivered at these three locations.
24:12
Speaker 9: So he's going to focus on our community, you know,
24:15
Speaker 9: coming together and also healthcare workers in his messaging that
24:20
Speaker 9: will be delivered on Christmas Day.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm sure a lot of people will be
24:24
Speaker 2: tuning in over there for that. Sophie Elsworth, thank you
24:27
Speaker 2: for joining me this evening, and Merry Christmas to you
24:31
Speaker 2: now after the break.
24:32
Speaker 4: It's a Christmas miracle.
24:34
Speaker 2: Sydney's famous fireworks have been saved at the eleventh hour
24:38
Speaker 2: after a truce between the Grinch Union and the New
24:41
Speaker 2: South Wales government, and Tim Blair has written an excellent
24:45
Speaker 2: piece on wokeness on its deathbed. He and Louise Roberts
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Speaker 2: will join me next Welcome back to the program. Now
24:55
Speaker 2: we're counting down the days left in twenty twenty four
24:59
Speaker 2: and let's hope the new year brings a better economy
25:02
Speaker 2: and a reprieve.
25:03
Speaker 4: In the cost of living crisis.
25:06
Speaker 2: But we learned there was no reprieve for mortgage holders
25:09
Speaker 2: as the Preserved Bank slashed prospects of a rate cut
25:13
Speaker 2: in the near future. However, the Central Bank is reportedly
25:17
Speaker 2: optimistic over signs of soft wages that could reportedly revive
25:21
Speaker 2: chances of a rate cut in February. Now, to unpack
25:24
Speaker 2: this and more, let's bring in my panel, The Daily
25:27
Speaker 2: Telegraphs Tim Blair and Sky News contributor Louise Roberts, both
25:32
Speaker 2: looking incredibly festive.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for coming on tonight.
25:37
Speaker 2: Now, Tim, is an early rate cut on your twenty
25:40
Speaker 2: twenty five BINGO card.
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Speaker 1: No, I think I think it's going to be pushed
25:45
Speaker 1: back a little. I don't know. I'm no great economics
25:48
Speaker 1: predictive hero on these things, but I don't know. There's
25:53
Speaker 1: so many variables flying around, expert opinions, great film, and
25:58
Speaker 1: also I would know from the from the numbers and
26:02
Speaker 1: the economics rates and someone in the RBA prognostications. There's
26:07
Speaker 1: one the reports that are coming out about the RBA's
26:12
Speaker 1: future direction. I just read your little paragraph here. The
26:16
Speaker 1: RBA noted that employment growth had been driven by the
26:19
Speaker 1: non market sector, i e. The government, and that there
26:22
Speaker 1: was a risk that job creation could stall if growth
26:25
Speaker 1: in government jobs were too slow. Now, when we're expanding
26:29
Speaker 1: government jobs, I don't care what any other figures are
26:32
Speaker 1: telling us that that's bad. That's that's when government gets bigger,
26:36
Speaker 1: people get poorer. And I think that's something to look
26:39
Speaker 1: at with some concern as we entered.
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Speaker 2: The new year, Louis, I mean, I think I think
26:44
Speaker 2: an expanding public service workforce is it concern for a
26:47
Speaker 2: lot of people. But what do you see coming and
26:52
Speaker 2: how do you think it's going to impact the government's
26:54
Speaker 2: chances that the election as well?
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Speaker 10: Well, that's the thing. Are they doing a little sweet
26:58
Speaker 10: and don't they to sort of keep you alongside the
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Speaker 10: electorate who were very disillusioned over many issues and issues
27:04
Speaker 10: of course you've discussed at length. Of course support of
27:07
Speaker 10: the Australian Jewish community being one of them. I'm like Tiam,
27:10
Speaker 10: I'm not holding my breath of the RT cart at all.
27:13
Speaker 10: If there was one, that would be great. That'd be
27:14
Speaker 10: less to pay for our mortgages. More money sweeping to
27:18
Speaker 10: the economy would be a good thing. But let's just
27:20
Speaker 10: see what happens.
27:21
Speaker 2: Look meanwhile, something of a win for Sydney ciders. This
27:24
Speaker 2: is some good news as a temporary truce between the
27:27
Speaker 2: men's government and union leaders over the threatened New Year's
27:31
Speaker 2: Eve strike has been called. Now those grinch union leaders
27:35
Speaker 2: have withdrawn their industrial actions, saving the city's famous fireworks
27:40
Speaker 2: at the eleventh hour.
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Speaker 4: Truly a Christmas miracle, Louise.
27:44
Speaker 2: But there shouldn't have been this whole debacle in the
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Speaker 2: first place.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 10: I mean, where else in the world would you see
27:50
Speaker 10: a global event on New z Eve like this held
27:53
Speaker 10: hostage by unions. I mean, the rest of the world
27:55
Speaker 10: looks to us for the start of the new year,
27:57
Speaker 10: because obviously one of the first to turn over the calendar,
28:01
Speaker 10: and it's not even fixed anyway, because they're still not
28:03
Speaker 10: resolved on this thirty two percent increase in pay over
28:06
Speaker 10: four years, so it's actually bought us is a bit
28:09
Speaker 10: of a stay of execution, so people can pile it
28:11
Speaker 10: into the CBD and enjoy New Year's Eve. But the
28:13
Speaker 10: fact that they were willing to risk that and risk
28:16
Speaker 10: people's safety, I think is deplorable.
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Speaker 2: Tim There is nothing that these union leaders won't hold hostage,
28:22
Speaker 2: including fireworks, including Christmas. Do you think that they're going
28:26
Speaker 2: to turn a new leaf in twenty twenty five and
28:29
Speaker 2: perhaps go easy on us with all these strikes.
28:34
Speaker 4: No.
28:34
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that they've gone this far
28:37
Speaker 1: in threatening threatening strikes over the New Year's period, I
28:40
Speaker 1: think shows just how far these people have now pushed
28:44
Speaker 1: things out. It's a little bit like the seventies. I mean,
28:47
Speaker 1: I know that neither of you recall the seventies at
28:49
Speaker 1: all in any detail because you weren't alive exactly, but
28:54
Speaker 1: there used to be annual strikes at breweries or annual
28:57
Speaker 1: threatened strikes at breweries like ber strike. You know, everyone's
29:01
Speaker 1: panicking and then eventually there'd be some sort of you know,
29:04
Speaker 1: peace deal broken and everything to be okay. And this
29:08
Speaker 1: is the thing. People forget what the threat that was
29:10
Speaker 1: held over them. And I hope it doesn't happen with
29:12
Speaker 1: the relions. I hope that the fact that they've been
29:15
Speaker 1: so menacing and so dictatorial throughout the week's leading up
29:19
Speaker 1: to Christmas and years, I hope that isn't forgotten because
29:22
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, they're holding the city to ransom
29:24
Speaker 1: on a number of levels, and not just during the
29:26
Speaker 1: holiday period.
29:27
Speaker 2: So true, people have a lovely Christmas and summer period
29:30
Speaker 2: and they come back, they forget about it. But don't
29:32
Speaker 2: forget now, Tim, you wrote a fantastic as always column
29:36
Speaker 2: for the Daily Telegraph about workness coming.
29:38
Speaker 4: To a sweet and ahead of the new year. You're right.
29:42
Speaker 2: It's the sound of wokeness being smashed to tiny pieces.
29:45
Speaker 4: Upon jagged rocks.
29:47
Speaker 2: It's the sound of wokness getting so wrung out that
29:50
Speaker 2: even Taylor Swift's finest lips sinking engineers couldn't wrestle it
29:55
Speaker 2: back into two.
29:56
Speaker 7: Now.
29:56
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're expecting a concerns notice from Taylor's with
30:00
Speaker 2: over that accusation, But Tim, seriously, from your pen to
30:04
Speaker 2: God's ears, what led you to this assessment.
30:08
Speaker 1: A lot of it, I'll confess a lot of it
30:10
Speaker 1: is hope. I am praying that the woke virus has
30:14
Speaker 1: been repelled, that it's been done with. But there are
30:17
Speaker 1: actual lots of real science. I think one of them
30:19
Speaker 1: obviously occurred in the US doing during the year we
30:22
Speaker 1: had the election of Donald Trump, and it was a
30:24
Speaker 1: very different election than twenty sixteen when it was much
30:26
Speaker 1: you know, it was quite a surprise. This time around.
30:29
Speaker 1: People were very openly out there for Trump and didn't
30:32
Speaker 1: care about being labeled satan and just went on with things.
30:37
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that people were standing up
30:39
Speaker 1: to the media bullies, especially in the mainstream in the US,
30:42
Speaker 1: they were standing up to social media critics who were
30:45
Speaker 1: calling them were wicked for even considering voting for Trump,
30:48
Speaker 1: and they cast their vote and they did it proudly,
30:50
Speaker 1: loudly and out there. That shows me that I think
30:53
Speaker 1: the woke voices don't have anywhere near as much power
30:58
Speaker 1: as they might have had even twelve months ago.
31:00
Speaker 2: I get the exact same sense as you, Tim, and Louise.
31:03
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've noticed this too, because you've been a
31:05
Speaker 2: warrior against woke.
31:06
Speaker 4: For a long time.
31:07
Speaker 2: Now, that's this era of cancel culture come to an end,
31:12
Speaker 2: do you think?
31:13
Speaker 6: Look?
31:13
Speaker 10: I hope it does, because it's we talk about it, obviously,
31:16
Speaker 10: and we can even make jokes about it, how pathetic
31:18
Speaker 10: it is. And there's a great line in Tim's piece
31:20
Speaker 10: about how luxury belief systems have a use by day,
31:23
Speaker 10: and they do. But I do worry about the impact
31:25
Speaker 10: on our children that they seem to think this is
31:27
Speaker 10: the right way to think, and it's not okay to
31:29
Speaker 10: have an opinion, and you can cancel our opinion as well.
31:32
Speaker 10: So I do hope you know, if Tim says it,
31:34
Speaker 10: it has to.
31:35
Speaker 4: Be true, it has to be true asolutely. Yes, he
31:37
Speaker 4: does have a crystal.
31:38
Speaker 2: Ball over there.
31:38
Speaker 4: We do know that.
31:40
Speaker 2: Now a complete change of pace and over to New York,
31:43
Speaker 2: you may find this story extremely distressing, so I would
31:47
Speaker 2: like to warn you at home about that. But a
31:50
Speaker 2: man has been charged after allegedly setting a woman on fire,
31:54
Speaker 2: killing her as she's slept on the subway. The suspect,
31:59
Speaker 2: identify by police as thirty three year old Sebastian Zappetta,
32:04
Speaker 2: who is an undocumented migrant, was taken into custody hours
32:09
Speaker 2: after the horrific incident.
32:11
Speaker 4: Tim We've seen several issues.
32:13
Speaker 2: Of violent crime on New York subways, but the depravity
32:18
Speaker 2: in this one is just so shocking.
32:22
Speaker 1: This it is astonishingly violent and incredible video that I
32:29
Speaker 1: don't advise anyone watchinful. Also, this story brings together a
32:33
Speaker 1: whole lot of different elements to one horrific point central point.
32:38
Speaker 1: We've got a legal immigration, We've got cities unable to
32:41
Speaker 1: take control of that circumstance. We've got public transport systems
32:46
Speaker 1: that are overrun. That I mean, the poor victim in
32:49
Speaker 1: this case was sleeping on the train, may very well
32:53
Speaker 1: have been homeless as off. And you've got a local
32:57
Speaker 1: government or the governor of the state in the most
33:00
Speaker 1: crebibly poor episode of poor timing, saying during on the
33:04
Speaker 1: very day that this atrocity occurred, saying how much safer
33:08
Speaker 1: the New York subways? It was altogether horrific, And of
33:13
Speaker 1: course at the peak of that is the death of
33:15
Speaker 1: that poor traveler.
33:17
Speaker 4: Well Louis.
33:17
Speaker 2: I think Tim raised so many important points there, and
33:20
Speaker 2: one of them being that the issue of undocumented migrants
33:26
Speaker 2: that was a huge issue in the US election, and
33:30
Speaker 2: I think a big part of the reason why Trump won.
33:33
Speaker 4: This story just will feed into.
33:37
Speaker 2: That, I think among his supporters and among Americans who
33:39
Speaker 2: think there needs to be a shift.
33:41
Speaker 5: I agree.
33:41
Speaker 10: And I think of all the points that Tim's made
33:43
Speaker 10: as well, I would add to that the Biden administration's
33:46
Speaker 10: notoriously lack of lacks approach to border control and documenting migrants.
33:52
Speaker 10: And I mean, this guy was thrown back to Guatemala apparently,
33:55
Speaker 10: but ended up in Arizona. So I mean it just
33:58
Speaker 10: shows that whatever Trump going to bring in, it has
34:00
Speaker 10: to be a good thing for the country because Americans
34:02
Speaker 10: want border control, they want to feel safe on the subway.
34:05
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope there is some serious change though, because
34:07
Speaker 2: these stories are just so awful. Now a bit of
34:10
Speaker 2: a change of pace again, and Bronte residents and businesses
34:13
Speaker 2: are reportedly bracing for a Christmas Day trash wave after
34:18
Speaker 2: last year's great mass of rubbish left at the beach.
34:22
Speaker 4: Now, Louise, this is.
34:24
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, clean as you go and mindfulness never made it
34:28
Speaker 2: to people's New Year's resolution early this year.
34:33
Speaker 5: No, it hasn't.
34:33
Speaker 10: But I think also the fact that it's not the
34:36
Speaker 10: first year that the place has been trashed, and they're
34:38
Speaker 10: talking about ten thousand people turning up and leaving garbage.
34:41
Speaker 10: There's a cafe owner who's debating with it or not
34:43
Speaker 10: that she should open and actually make a profit because
34:46
Speaker 10: she's worried about people coming in and using the floor
34:48
Speaker 10: of her restaurant as a toilet. It's just unbelievable. So
34:51
Speaker 10: why not make it a ticketed event if people that
34:53
Speaker 10: many people are going to turn up to Bronchy Beach,
34:56
Speaker 10: introduce some kind of control and get the state government
34:59
Speaker 10: and the local council working together so local residents don't
35:02
Speaker 10: feel under siege and it's actually a more palatable event
35:05
Speaker 10: that doesn't end up being like a stinking tip at
35:07
Speaker 10: the end of it.
35:08
Speaker 4: I remember this story.
35:09
Speaker 2: I was on this program reporting about it last year,
35:13
Speaker 2: and were those scenes and the amount of trash that
35:15
Speaker 2: was left. Gosh, people can be so filthy, it's unbelievable. Now,
35:19
Speaker 2: before I let you both go, I'd like to ask
35:21
Speaker 2: who your winners and losers of twenty twenty for Tim,
35:25
Speaker 2: let's start with you.
35:26
Speaker 4: Who made your hit list?
35:28
Speaker 1: Well, I put obviously Donald Trump is the big winner back,
35:31
Speaker 1: but my nomination is for the people who voted for
35:33
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and the people who followed Donald Trump worldwide,
35:36
Speaker 1: who spent as we mentioned before, we're discussing before, who
35:39
Speaker 1: endured years of being demonized and vilified and scarred by
35:45
Speaker 1: the attacks from all the right minded lefties, and then
35:50
Speaker 1: they got their man up. So it's I think it's
35:52
Speaker 1: a win for them, for the Trump supporters, rather than
35:56
Speaker 1: Man himself, who has got to claim some of the credit.
35:59
Speaker 2: But to the voters, look, he's not wrong, Louise. He
36:03
Speaker 2: would be the winner of not just twenty twenty four,
36:06
Speaker 2: I'd say, but the decade, possibly the century. Who's your
36:09
Speaker 2: winner and loser?
36:10
Speaker 10: I would agree. I mean, he's the person of the
36:12
Speaker 10: year for Time, even Time magazine it's been notoriously harsh
36:15
Speaker 10: on him as well. But also I'll put a voted
36:17
Speaker 10: for anyone who feels the freedom to express their opinion
36:20
Speaker 10: and not worry about being canceled as well, whether you're
36:22
Speaker 10: a commentator or whether you're an ordinary person, you know,
36:25
Speaker 10: think that you can actually have your own opinion and
36:28
Speaker 10: be secure and actually say what you think without offending people.
36:31
Speaker 2: Yes, well you should be able to offend people. I
36:34
Speaker 2: would argue even to a point. I would just make
36:36
Speaker 2: the exception to hate speech because the neo Nazis very
36:39
Speaker 2: much like to think they are freedom of speech fighters,
36:42
Speaker 2: and I would say that you ain't okay now, Tim
36:45
Speaker 2: and Louise, thank you both so much for your time.
36:47
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas to you both.
36:49
Speaker 2: After the break, battle lines drawn to keep gender ideology
36:53
Speaker 2: out of public toilets and schools. Western Sydney Mayor Frank Carbone,
36:58
Speaker 2: who is on the front line, joins me next Welcome
37:05
Speaker 2: back to the program. While the battle lines over gender
37:08
Speaker 2: neutral toilets have been drawn, a new South Wales parliamentary
37:12
Speaker 2: inquiry has heard calls to remove quote harmful labeling from
37:18
Speaker 2: public toilets. It's transactivists push for gender neutral facilities, not
37:24
Speaker 2: only that they want them implemented in public schools. While
37:29
Speaker 2: some Sydney councils have already overhauled their policies, like Inner
37:33
Speaker 2: West Council, which last year adopted gender neutral signage, one
37:38
Speaker 2: Western Sydney mayor has vowed to flush out any changes.
37:43
Speaker 2: And I'm pleased to say Fairfield Mayor Frank Carbone joins me. Now, Frank,
37:48
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on. Now you're not a fan
37:51
Speaker 2: of gender neutral toilets.
37:54
Speaker 6: Oh, well, I think we needed I think common sense
37:56
Speaker 6: needs to provile I mean to talk about anxiety being
37:59
Speaker 6: caused to transgender What about the university does some research
38:03
Speaker 6: on the anxiety would cause the remaining of the ninety
38:06
Speaker 6: nine percent of the population where the children would have
38:09
Speaker 6: to get to the bathroom with men.
38:10
Speaker 7: I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
38:12
Speaker 9: I think.
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Speaker 3: There's ways around it, but I just think it's really crazy,
38:17
Speaker 3: and the research always seems to be slanted towards the
38:20
Speaker 3: minority rather than a common sense approach that can actually
38:23
Speaker 3: accommodate everybody.
38:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to pick up on something that you
38:27
Speaker 2: said that researchers have said in this inquiry that these
38:31
Speaker 2: traditional male and female toilets which we're all used to
38:34
Speaker 2: can cause what they term toilet anxiety for trans and
38:39
Speaker 2: gender people. But how do you think your community in
38:43
Speaker 2: western Sydney, in the Fairfield area, it's a very big
38:46
Speaker 2: part of Sydney. How do you think that they would
38:49
Speaker 2: accept it if you did put in these gender neutral toilets.
38:53
Speaker 7: Well, they wouldn't.
38:54
Speaker 3: And I hope that the researchers actually do some research
38:57
Speaker 3: for the masses instead of the minority, because that way
38:59
Speaker 3: we would really know how people are feeling. You can't
39:02
Speaker 3: just do research on a minority group and just exclude
39:06
Speaker 3: everywhere and everyone else. It's just appalling that this is
39:09
Speaker 3: even made to the Upper House. And I just think
39:11
Speaker 3: that if you want to do research, if you want
39:13
Speaker 3: to do consultation, then be inclusive by including everybody, not
39:17
Speaker 3: exclusive excluding the masses. There's no way that the community
39:21
Speaker 3: out here would want their children going to the bathroom
39:24
Speaker 3: their daughter with men.
39:26
Speaker 7: It's just not common sense. We already have ladies and gent's.
39:30
Speaker 3: Bathrooms, Why would we want to convert them into unisex bathrooms.
39:35
Speaker 6: It's just ridiculous.
39:37
Speaker 2: Now it's not something you'd have control over. Obviously the
39:40
Speaker 2: Council controls the public toilets, but we're seeing this idea
39:43
Speaker 2: being pushed for public schools as well. How do you
39:46
Speaker 2: think that would go down in the school communities of
39:49
Speaker 2: Western Sydney.
39:51
Speaker 3: We can't control, but we've got a loud voice. And
39:53
Speaker 3: I really know the article that Premier was really silent on.
39:56
Speaker 3: It didn't really want to have a comment one way
39:58
Speaker 3: or the other. It seems like ducking the issue, and
40:02
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty bad. I think you should have
40:03
Speaker 3: actually made a comment on it and actually to his ground.
40:06
Speaker 3: I think that parents will be appalled, especially putting it
40:09
Speaker 3: in through the skill system. That's just trying to introduce
40:12
Speaker 3: a system early on in ages of our children, and
40:17
Speaker 3: that's just ridiculous. And I don't think parents would accept it.
40:21
Speaker 3: And I would love to see if they gon't be
40:23
Speaker 3: brave enough to take this on, because I don't think
40:25
Speaker 3: they would be especially out of here in Western Sydney.
40:28
Speaker 2: Okay, what about not changing the toilets altogether, but adding
40:32
Speaker 2: a third unisex toilet. I've seen that happen in various
40:36
Speaker 2: public spaces. I'm not sure if it's already in place
40:39
Speaker 2: around Fairfield City Council.
40:42
Speaker 4: But what do you think of that idea? But what
40:45
Speaker 4: about it?
40:46
Speaker 7: Well, there is a common sense solution. We have.
40:50
Speaker 3: Twenty four hour toilets, the electronic toilets they're called excelues,
40:53
Speaker 3: and there's the unisex toilets. They're also double up as
40:56
Speaker 3: a disabled toilet. But there's single pepople bathrooms, so that
41:01
Speaker 3: means one person at a time. It's no different what
41:04
Speaker 3: you do at home and you have a bathroom and
41:05
Speaker 3: one person uses it at a time. So these bathrooms
41:09
Speaker 3: were already got and rolled out. We already have that system.
41:12
Speaker 3: We shouldn't be imposing this on nineteen nine percent of
41:15
Speaker 3: the population when we can simply already use our existing
41:19
Speaker 3: unisex toilets that we have. We've got one of them
41:22
Speaker 3: pretty much in most locations, and they double up as
41:25
Speaker 3: disabled bathrooms but also as male and female bathrooms.
41:30
Speaker 2: Okay, but Frank, what if the government turns around and says, okay,
41:34
Speaker 2: we've listened to all the evidence of this inquiry and
41:36
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but Mayor you are going to have to
41:39
Speaker 2: put in these gender neutral toilets. No matter what you say,
41:42
Speaker 2: what will you do?
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Speaker 6: Then?
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Speaker 3: I's what the government tries to tell us all the voice.
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Speaker 3: That's what the government tries to tell us a lot
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Speaker 3: of things. It doesn't mean we have to listen to
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Speaker 3: the government. We can fight the government, and I'm hoping
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Speaker 3: that this doesn't happen and common sense actually prevails. But
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Speaker 3: I mean, if that happens, I think it will be
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Speaker 3: it will be very poor. Much I can do, except
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Speaker 3: to maybe fight them through a democratic process which is
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Speaker 3: at the state elections. But I'm hoping that common sense
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Speaker 3: will prevail. I don't think people will accept it, and
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Speaker 3: on that basis, I think the government will back down.
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Speaker 2: Fair Field mayor Frank Carbon thank you for your time,
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Speaker 2: your common sense, and are very merry Christmas to you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, a merry Christmas to you and all your listeners.
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Speaker 8: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Now, don't go anywhere. Reform UK membership is set to
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Speaker 2: our number the Tories in the new year, all the
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Speaker 2: while the party's treasurer claims billionaires are queuing up to donate.
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Speaker 4: GB News. As Patrick Christie's.
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Speaker 2: Joins me after the break, welcome back. Let's head back
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Speaker 2: to the UK now where reports are that the Reform
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Speaker 2: than the Tories before January. To unpack this, let's bring
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Speaker 2: in GB News host Patrick Christie's live from London. Patrick,
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Speaker 2: It's great to see you again. Is looking very good
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Speaker 2: for the Reform UK party next year, isn't it Well?
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Speaker 7: It absolutely isn't shark horror.
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Speaker 11: If you decide to put your own people first, it
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Speaker 11: turns out that you do quite well. Reform needs to
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Speaker 11: get one hundred and thirty one thousand members to be
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Speaker 11: the Tories and they're just a few thousand off that
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Speaker 11: now they're nearly there.
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Speaker 7: They're doing very well in the opinion polls as well.
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Speaker 11: They've overtaken Labor the current governments of the day, and
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Speaker 11: they're just one or two points behind the Conservatives as well.
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Speaker 7: Something really interesting is happening though.
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Speaker 11: The sixteen to twenty five year old age demographic are
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Speaker 11: veering to the right, which is quite an interesting thing
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Speaker 11: to happen, isn't it. And the Prime Minister is so
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Speaker 11: scared of what he's seeing when he comes to reform
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Speaker 11: that he's decided to cancel some local elections who're supposed
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Speaker 11: to have local council elections.
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Speaker 7: He's booted them back for another two years, which is
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Speaker 7: interesting really.
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Speaker 11: And they're about to get a load of money in
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Speaker 11: as well. Elon Musk is going to donate and reform.
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Speaker 11: Nick Candy, who is married to and I hope she
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Speaker 11: just mad me saying this one of Australia's quite literally
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Speaker 11: finest X.
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Speaker 7: He's a very wealthy man and the money, the money
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Speaker 7: is rolling in. They're on the rise. They're on the rise.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that would be our former soap proper star here,
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Speaker 2: Holly the Lance as she was once known her maiden name.
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Speaker 2: Now it's interesting you mentioned this because Elon Musk, I
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Speaker 2: would say, was really quite instrumental in the US election
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Speaker 2: and securing that victory for Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: What impact would it have do you.
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Speaker 2: Think if he was to get involved in what's happening
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Speaker 2: over there in the UK.
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Speaker 7: Well, the thing is he's already got involved.
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Speaker 11: So Elon Musk decided that he hates our prime minister,
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Speaker 11: and he clearly decided that shortly after our prime minister
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Speaker 11: got elected. And he just uses Twitter or x to
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Speaker 11: dig him all the time, whether it's calling him two
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Speaker 11: Tierki over the perception that we are imprisoning certain.
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Speaker 7: People for not doing very much wrong but letting other
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Speaker 7: people out.
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Speaker 11: He's constantly berating him into what are the money and
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Speaker 11: the finances of it. What is absolutely hilarious is all
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Speaker 11: of these people on the left now go, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 11: foreign money. We can't have foreign money. They were more
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Speaker 11: than happy for big EU based billionaires like George Soros
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Speaker 11: to be donating into British.
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Speaker 7: Politics for decades, but now it's Nigel Farage.
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Speaker 11: You know, it's a problem, but it would have an
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Speaker 11: impact because report needs to up their ground game.
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Speaker 7: But look, at the end of the day, I don't
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Speaker 7: think it will matter that much.
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Speaker 11: Whether rather they get money in because they've got sound ideas,
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Speaker 11: lower taxes, cutting back on the legal immigration, not spending
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Speaker 11: all of our money abroad on things like climate reparations
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Speaker 11: for countries like Afghanistan. It's just about kind of domesticating
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Speaker 11: British politics really, So money or no money, I think
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Speaker 11: they'll do pretty well.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, be interesting to watch and oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: cannot believe there's hypocrisy on the left.
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Speaker 4: What a shock. Now, a bit of a change of pace.
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Speaker 2: Let's go back to this horrific Christmas market attack in
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Speaker 2: Germany in which five people were killed and more than
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Speaker 2: two hundred and injured. Patrick, there's been warnings over in
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Speaker 2: the UK about this increased terror threat as well.
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely so.
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Speaker 11: We are being told that you need to watch out
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Speaker 11: when you go to a Christmas market. We've got armed
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Speaker 11: police now pretty much every single Christmas market in every
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Speaker 11: single town. We've got these bollards everywhere as well, just
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Speaker 11: in case somebody decides that they want to try to
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Speaker 11: drive into a crowd. We're also being told to watch
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Speaker 11: out going to pantomimes or theater productions, which is is
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Speaker 11: quite worrying. The issue is, I mean fundamentally, the issue
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Speaker 11: is from our intelligence services that they say that the
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Speaker 11: threat of ISIS and al Qaeda in Europe is back,
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Speaker 11: is well and truly back. So this is a massive problem.
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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, the irony is that the biggest
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Speaker 11: Christmas market in Britain we're not allowed to call a
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Speaker 11: Christmas market. We have to call it a winter get together,
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Speaker 11: just in case, just in case it offends anyone who
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Speaker 11: doesn't celeberate. I'm quite offended by armed police and bollards everywhere,
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Speaker 11: to be put, be honest with you, but you know,
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Speaker 11: we all just have to make do.
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Speaker 7: Don't we.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, words of violence, Patrick, haven't you got the
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Speaker 2: memo now?
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Speaker 4: Patrick?
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Speaker 2: Prince Harry's new Netflix series Polo. It's been absolutely lashed
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Speaker 2: by the media.
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Speaker 4: What is your take on it? Not a fan, I'm
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Speaker 4: guessing well.
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Speaker 7: Not fund mainly because I don't quite understand exactly what
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Speaker 7: it is. So Megan and Harry are barely in it. Obviously.
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Speaker 7: The whole point of Polo is that Royals play it.
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Speaker 7: They've decided not to art getting or anyone else that.
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Speaker 11: Actually matters, and it's kind of very oddly put together.
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Speaker 11: The average star rating for this is two stars, I think,
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Speaker 11: and it's not made the Netflix top.
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Speaker 7: Ten in any single any single country. I don't think so.
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Speaker 11: I think it could well be the one of the
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Speaker 11: last ventures for Harry and Meghan. They've been the executive
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Speaker 11: producers of this, although exactly what they've done I'm not
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Speaker 11: quite sure. Yeah, it's a bizarre thing that they've decided
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Speaker 11: to do, really, which is for a couple that likes
47:56
Speaker 11: to go out and you know, hold the hands of
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Speaker 11: poorly people in our for occur and you dig wells
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Speaker 11: for people and do all of that stuff, seems really
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Speaker 11: bizarre that you'd be associating yourself with the most elitist, flagrantly.
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Speaker 7: Expensive sport that the world has to offer.
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Speaker 11: But they've decided to do it noneth last, even though
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Speaker 11: they're only in it right at the end.
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Speaker 7: Very weird stuff from Harry and Megan.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, I'm hoping we hear a lot less of
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Speaker 2: them in twenty twenty five. On that basis, Before I
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Speaker 2: let you go very quickly, Patrick, I want to know
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Speaker 2: your winners and losers are for the year that was,
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Speaker 2: And you can.
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Speaker 4: Say, Harry and Megan again. If you like the losers,
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Speaker 4: that's all right.
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Speaker 11: Okay, So my loser is going to be Kars Starner.
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Speaker 11: Our prime Minister's tanking in the polls.
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Speaker 7: He's just lied his way to Downing Street. Actually, it's
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Speaker 7: been absolutely shocked.
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Speaker 11: Left pensions to freeze, farmers, to starve, it's been a nightmare.
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Speaker 7: The winner. No, I'm very sorry about.
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Speaker 11: This because I think everyone's about to just throw up
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Speaker 11: into their own hands here. But the winner is me
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Speaker 11: why I got married this.
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Speaker 4: Year, and congratulations just over there.
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Speaker 7: So if I didn't say because of that.
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Speaker 2: Then yeah, very good advice, very very good sense you've
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Speaker 2: got Patrick Christie's congratulations. Merry Christmas and thank you for
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Speaker 2: your company at home tonight. The Bolt Report is up
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Speaker 2: next and you'll see me here again on Thursday. In
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Speaker 2: the meantime, have a very merry Christmas and a happy
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Speaker 2: Hannekha two