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Importance of continuity heading into 2023 | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, January 25 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:03
Speaker 1: Welcome to Jens Drive with John Hooshier Hurst and Bryan
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Speaker 1: Sexed it sexy. James starts right now, Oh we need
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Speaker 1: it's one play dress, one place. Trevor. What a great ball,
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Speaker 1: Bro went through a daring one. Now we just got
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Speaker 1: John do the best we can. Bro. I'm proud of you. Bro.
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Speaker 1: Nobody was back there in that pocket, but you tonight.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, man like's not moral victories, but Bro,
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Speaker 1: you fucker fust And that's all we can ask for, Trevor.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be jess fine. Bro. The effusive and candid
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Speaker 1: thoughts of wide receivers A Jones miked up in Kansas
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Speaker 1: City during the divisional playoff game last Saturday. Catch up
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Speaker 1: tonight in Jags Wired on Fox thirty, and of course
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Speaker 1: it will be all across Jaguars social channels and on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. Welcome in final Jags Drive time until
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Speaker 1: late February. We'll take a few weeks off, regroup, and
1:13
Speaker 1: then get back to it. Um. He said they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be just fine, and I think all of us feel
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Speaker 1: like he is exactly right. Yeah, And anybody would tell
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Speaker 1: you that it's important, and I don't doubt this team
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Speaker 1: knows this and will follow this thus lee if you will. Um.
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Speaker 1: But we think they're gonna be good, and I think
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Speaker 1: Trevor is gonna be really good. Uh. We've talked about nine,
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Speaker 1: all the comparisons, and I can't help it. I still
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Speaker 1: feel that that team used that run as a launching
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Speaker 1: pad to what we remember as a solid, rock solid
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Speaker 1: time for the franchise. But you still have to go
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Speaker 1: do it, and you still have to do the things
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Speaker 1: around Trevor. He still has to grow. I mean, as
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Speaker 1: much as we're praising Trevor, if this is what he is,
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Speaker 1: it's not good enough for his career. But this undoubtedly
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Speaker 1: is a step. When I say that, you know we
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Speaker 1: all expect and he expects to be elite, otherworldly. This
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Speaker 1: season was not otherworldly. This season was a fantastic step
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Speaker 1: towards what I am sure he's going to be. All
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Speaker 1: that being said, it's still gotta go there. Well, you
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Speaker 1: gotta get better. You know. I was asked a lot
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, why do you keep making
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Speaker 1: comparisons to ninety six. There are people that don't recall that.
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Speaker 1: He said, well, there's reason number one to do that.
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Speaker 1: Those who do not know history are often doomed to
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Speaker 1: repeat it. The second thought on that though, was we
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Speaker 1: hadn't had a season like that since, right, so it
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Speaker 1: made sense. So let's put the PostScript right on the
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Speaker 1: nine team so that you understand what might happen here.
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Speaker 1: The team won eleven ball games, or two more than
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Speaker 1: the team did in ninety six, but they got pounded
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Speaker 1: in the wild card game by an energized Broncos team
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Speaker 1: that ran for more than three hundred yards against them
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Speaker 1: that day. They didn't get good enough at stopping the
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Speaker 1: run that year with two rookie tackles Rinaldo Went and
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Speaker 1: Seth Payne, and it wasn't until that they were good
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Speaker 1: enough to go on and win another playoff game. This
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Speaker 1: team has plenty of areas to get better, and we
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Speaker 1: can talk about that ad nauseum, but what they do
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Speaker 1: is dependent on this offseason and how much better they get. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I M I believe it. For the
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Speaker 1: most part. They're at a point in their in their
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Speaker 1: building where we're not going to see huge free agent moves.
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Speaker 1: I think the improvement should and needs to now start
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Speaker 1: coming more from within. But you draft a draft class
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Speaker 1: in I don't expect that to carry the franchise in
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Speaker 1: the twenty two draft class needs to be the mussey.
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Speaker 1: These are muscles, Brian, in case you didn't recognize, that
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Speaker 1: needs to be the muscle of the franchise and that
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Speaker 1: needs to continue to do that. That will be That's
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Speaker 1: how you get to the Chiefs. That's how you get
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Speaker 1: to the Bengals is drafting and developing and having a
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Speaker 1: strong core of your roster. I have no core. Not
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Speaker 1: that did Brandon Sheriff apparently through the course of the season,
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Speaker 1: and we did talk with Jo Bulky yesterday and the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars general manager acknowledged that this is that moment in
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Speaker 1: time where the Jaguars franchise goes from being big spenders
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Speaker 1: during free agency, which doesn't always work it has the
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Speaker 1: last two years, but to one that relies on their
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Speaker 1: draft classes. And that's what John got to an important
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Speaker 1: point there, Brian. Um For people who here that and
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Speaker 1: are used to reading everything about who won the off season,
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Speaker 1: that's what we've been here for ten years, and that's
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Speaker 1: what you will see over the next three or four
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Speaker 1: months is who won the off season. The Chiefs rarely
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Speaker 1: you win the off season. I'm I don't think the
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Speaker 1: Bengals won the off season. I think the Colts ever
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Speaker 1: won the off season. While you're reading this and you're
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Speaker 1: emailing me about why aren't they doing more, realize you
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Speaker 1: don't maintain for ten years winning the off season every year.
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Speaker 1: You cannot do it. It will destroy your franchise over
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Speaker 1: the long hall ready for final big things for a month? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, if you have a choice. Every time somebody
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Speaker 1: asked me that, I always say, what's my choice? Your choices?
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Speaker 1: That we're gonna play the music and get started. Hey, John,
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Speaker 1: you ready for the games? Why don't gonna play it?
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Speaker 1: All right? Let's go big thing? One accomplishment. Obviously, when
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Speaker 1: you finish the season on a loss in the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: it's tough. It leaves a taste in your mouth, no
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Speaker 1: matter whether you were supposed to be there or not.
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Speaker 1: But Doug Peterson said on Monday in his final media
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Speaker 1: gathering of the two thousand twenty two season that he
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Speaker 1: did acknowledge what got done this year and felt it
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Speaker 1: was important for these guys to appreciate it and feel accomplished.
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Speaker 1: I think there is a sense of accomplishment um for
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Speaker 1: you know, everything this team has gone through over the
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Speaker 1: last year and a half. To go from, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the worst teams record wise a year ago
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Speaker 1: to winning a playoff game this year. There is a
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Speaker 1: sense of accomplishment, you know, and it's just a credit
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Speaker 1: to these guys, you know, to have the It all
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Speaker 1: starts in the off season, and it starts with the
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Speaker 1: amount of people that we had in the players that
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Speaker 1: we had here in the off season to build the
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Speaker 1: foundation to to to you know, start there and then
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Speaker 1: to just keep building upon that. It wasn't you know, obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't a pretty season by any means,
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Speaker 1: and we had we had that stretch in there. It
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Speaker 1: was pretty rough on us. But you know, to every
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Speaker 1: every guy in there right now, um, they all had
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Speaker 1: a belief that we could we could accomplish our goals.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too, and this is an important one and
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Speaker 1: when we'll talk about a lot over the next couple
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Speaker 1: of months, continuity familiar, everydy, did you it works for
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Speaker 1: the first time since the nineteen and twenty seasons, will
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Speaker 1: have the same coaching staff in place. Obviously, the talent
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Speaker 1: level is much higher. So you've got a quarterback who
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Speaker 1: is coming back to the same coaches in the same
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Speaker 1: system and the same players. Well, Dog Peterson says, your best.
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Speaker 1: You cannot overestimate what that means. It's huge. It's it's
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Speaker 1: the same thing I've been telling the players this morning.
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Speaker 1: The ones I've seen is, you know, especially the guys
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Speaker 1: that are going to be back, I mean, there's familiarity.
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Speaker 1: You know, when the off season program starts, they know
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Speaker 1: exactly what to expect. They know what to expect during
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Speaker 1: O t A s. They know to expect during training camp.
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Speaker 1: They know the offense, the defense. They no special team.
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Speaker 1: So it's and in for Trevor, it's it's everything. There's continuity,
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Speaker 1: there's consistency. He knows the guys he's gonna be throwing
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Speaker 1: the ball to. He knows the coaching staff who's gonna
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Speaker 1: be coaching him. And um, that's that's Uh, that that's
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Speaker 1: a big that's big for us. And from year one
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Speaker 1: to year two and and um, those are the you
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Speaker 1: know the jumps that teams make is usually year one
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Speaker 1: year to possibly in the year three. Um, but for
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Speaker 1: our quarterback, you know who had a great year this year,
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Speaker 1: He'll only get better just having that that consistency around
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Speaker 1: him and wrapping up big things with decisions. Tread Bulky
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Speaker 1: told us yesterday when he met with the media that
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Speaker 1: they would get the coaching and scouting staffs together today.
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Speaker 1: So the process of figuring out who and the when
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Speaker 1: and how much and all of that begins right now.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's hard to put a time frame on it.
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Speaker 1: It could be a day, it could be a couple
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Speaker 1: of days. Um, but you know, we're gonna do the
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Speaker 1: best for the Jags, you know. And and and making
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Speaker 1: sure that we have the right people here and and um,
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the guys that are free agents,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're the right type of guys that
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Speaker 1: we want, you know. And and uh, and we hope
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Speaker 1: to try to, you know, at least make an impact,
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Speaker 1: you know, and trying to resign our own and those
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Speaker 1: are big things on a Wednesday morning. And John Continuity
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Speaker 1: wanted to one who want to go back to first
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Speaker 1: because it is so critical that this year, um, you
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Speaker 1: will have a quarterback at his receivers, at a running
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Speaker 1: back and largely his offensive line with the same coaching
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Speaker 1: staff all on the same page. When the off season
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Speaker 1: program begins. Well, I understand we have to run the
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Speaker 1: whole SoundBite. You could have cut it when Doug said,
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Speaker 1: it's everything, because if you believe that Doug Peterson knows
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Speaker 1: or has an idea how this is going to go,
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Speaker 1: which he's if. I do believe that, because he's proven that.
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Speaker 1: He said over and over early in the season. If
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Speaker 1: you remember, first year in this system, is difficult for
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Speaker 1: Trevor and these receivers to be where they ought to be. Remember,
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Speaker 1: I mean, and that was a theme through up until
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Speaker 1: two and six, and even even up until about four
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Speaker 1: and eight. He pounded that theme and every said he's
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Speaker 1: making excuses that this Well, he was right, and once
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Speaker 1: they got a little familiarity, look what happened. He has
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Speaker 1: not said this because you don't say this as a coach.
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Speaker 1: I firmly believe that he believes that this thing is
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Speaker 1: going to take off in year two in this system,
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Speaker 1: and that Trevor is going to absolutely a skyrocket. Whatever
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Speaker 1: you saw from him is going to be on steroids
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Speaker 1: next year. UM. I was asked a few days ago,
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Speaker 1: what does he need to improve the most when he's
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Speaker 1: at his best? Very little. What he needs to improve
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Speaker 1: is the consistency. Um, you know all the slow starts, Well,
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Speaker 1: don't you believe. It's not that we haven't seen it,
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Speaker 1: we just didn't see it very often for entire games,
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Speaker 1: which is why they were coming back. It's why they
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Speaker 1: were That's why they were tenant eight and not fourteen
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Speaker 1: and three. Um, the can this and seeing continuity theme.
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Speaker 1: People are gonna get tired of us talking about it,
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Speaker 1: but I cannot believe it for the first eight games
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Speaker 1: the next season, I think you're going to see and healthy.
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Speaker 1: As long as everything is what we think is gonna be,
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be off the rail. Look, just
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Speaker 1: go back to the mic up that we began the
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Speaker 1: show with where you had Za Jones standing next to
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Speaker 1: Trevor on the sidelines and he said, we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: just fine. He knows. They all know where they're ending
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Speaker 1: the season. They're ending the season hopefully they were hoping
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Speaker 1: to be better, is what I meant to say. But
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Speaker 1: they know they will be. And now and this is
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Speaker 1: the next factor. Now you mix in another receiver and
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Speaker 1: accomplished receiver in Calvin Ridley, who we all expect will
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Speaker 1: be reinstated between now in April seventeen. Now you've got
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Speaker 1: one more explosive piece to the puzzle. It just it's
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Speaker 1: hard not to believe this whole thing isn't going to
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Speaker 1: find it find its gear. We'll have Calvin Ridley will
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Speaker 1: have his day that he's a huge topic this offseason.
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Speaker 1: But think about this receiver corps. If you've got a
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Speaker 1: guy drawn double team. Yeah, I mean it's and that's
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Speaker 1: why I think people are excited about it. As a
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Speaker 1: Jones had a really good year. Christians had a really
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Speaker 1: good year, and I'm I'm not sure that they were
12:11
Speaker 1: in their ideal roles. You not a Christian Kirk if
12:16
Speaker 1: you allow him not to have to be the go
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Speaker 1: to guy at times. And that's even it's almost not
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Speaker 1: a fair way to describe this offense because it doesn't
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Speaker 1: play that way. It doesn't play go to guy. But
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Speaker 1: for people who if defenses have to pay attention to
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Speaker 1: Ridley or Kirk, you're at one more guy, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be huge and it's one more thing where they go on.
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Speaker 1: It would be more than one more than government. Um
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Speaker 1: the very top the accomplishment part. As a human being,
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Speaker 1: you have to sometimes look back and say, Okay, where
12:50
Speaker 1: are we and what are we going? And where are
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Speaker 1: we going? They must take time to realize what an
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Speaker 1: accomplishment this was. Uh, it shouldn't be the topic on
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Speaker 1: a but right now, if as a person, if if
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Speaker 1: you were involved in heavy lifting this, I'm not saying us,
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Speaker 1: I'm saying the people who heavy lifted this thing. If
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Speaker 1: you can't feel a sense of accomplishment out of this,
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be in this business. Well, the other word
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Speaker 1: to use here is satisfaction. To be satisfied with what
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Speaker 1: they got done this year. But it goes counter to
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Speaker 1: the culture, and especially the culture in social media where
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Speaker 1: it's always next, next, next. If you don't feel satisfied,
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Speaker 1: then you're missing. One of the great benefits to this
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Speaker 1: season was a sense of satisfaction. Hey, they won. They
13:37
Speaker 1: had two of the most memorable home games here against
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Speaker 1: the Titans and against the Chargers in Jaguars history. And
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Speaker 1: they went on the road and in the fourth quarter
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Speaker 1: with five and a half minutes left, they had a
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Speaker 1: chance to put themselves in position to take the game.
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Speaker 1: You must be satisfied with what got done this year
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Speaker 1: and set your expectations for next year. Hey, we've got expectations.
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Speaker 1: For the next segment of the show, we're going around
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Speaker 1: the locker room we'll hear from a lot of the
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Speaker 1: guys on this season when we return here to Jack's
14:04
Speaker 1: Drive Time on a Wednesday morning from t I A
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Speaker 1: a backfield in Jacksonville. Welcome back to Jack's Drive Time,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by our friends at Jet Home Loans,
14:18
Speaker 1: Brian and John with you wrapping up the season, and
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Speaker 1: then we'll return on February twenty feet and it will
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Speaker 1: be an every Tuesday show throughout the off season. Let's
14:28
Speaker 1: get right into the locker room. Monday, the players cleaned
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Speaker 1: out their lockers, said goodbye to their teammates, and shared
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Speaker 1: some thoughts on the season that was and will begin
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Speaker 1: with Travis E. T N, who finished a tremendous first
14:39
Speaker 1: year even though it was his second year, first year
14:42
Speaker 1: after returning from injury. Ah yes, sir, yes, sir, H
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Speaker 1: definitely did. I definitely uh really, um, I had my
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Speaker 1: notes and I was kind of just checking them before
14:51
Speaker 1: I came here, and I really had a bit of
14:53
Speaker 1: year plan for myself. That's just kind of the belief
14:55
Speaker 1: I have in myself. Uh, the system that Doug has
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Speaker 1: around here, and I feel like there are times that
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Speaker 1: I wasn't playing my best ball, but I feel like
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Speaker 1: and then the season, the team maybe most I started
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Speaker 1: playing my best ball and that's what matters, and I
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Speaker 1: thought I'm gonna take the momentum next year and moved
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Speaker 1: forward with it. And he's a guy that they are
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Speaker 1: expecting big things from. Ye I don't know if he's
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Speaker 1: necessarily I'm gonna have four or five years all bigger
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Speaker 1: than eleven yards rushing, you know. But I don't think
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Speaker 1: he needs to to be an incredibly important figure in
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Speaker 1: this offense. I think as you as the offense, he
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Speaker 1: gets smoother and better. En I say smoother, a's me
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Speaker 1: more consistent. Um. I think he will compliment the passing
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Speaker 1: game more, and I think there'll be four or five
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Speaker 1: games a year that he explodes and tennery Levin where
15:49
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to explode and he has four or
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Speaker 1: five key runs. But I think he's the perfect piece
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Speaker 1: in this puzzle if you follow me. And that's not
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Speaker 1: to say it's not to diminish his role, but it's
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Speaker 1: never gonna be an offense. I don't think ideally, Doug
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Speaker 1: once an offense where you're turning around, hand the ball
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Speaker 1: the running back and that guy is getting hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty yards game. So but I think he is going
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Speaker 1: to be a great complimentary piece. I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 1: if there's another running back somewhere in the mix next year. Uh,
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Speaker 1: although that's really a slight to Hasty, who did a
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Speaker 1: great job. So I don't know that they have to
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Speaker 1: improve that. But I don't know the et is gonna
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Speaker 1: be the primary primary back. I think they like rotating him,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's a huge piece of this puzzle
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Speaker 1: and they would be worse without him. I think you're
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Speaker 1: looking for a guy who, when you've got a ten
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Speaker 1: point leading the fourth quarter, you can hand it off
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Speaker 1: to him ten twelve times away. Maybe that's Hasty, maybe
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Speaker 1: that's Snoop Connor, but a guy who you just want
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Speaker 1: to keep giving it to over and over and over
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Speaker 1: and finishing off games. All right. The first overall picking
16:54
Speaker 1: the draft last year was Trayvon Walker. He was a
16:56
Speaker 1: player of impact at times this season, and he told
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Speaker 1: us Monday that he wants to be a dominant player
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Speaker 1: in his second NFL season. I always know I could
17:06
Speaker 1: be a dominant player without questioning. I was just a
17:08
Speaker 1: fact of me knowing the ends and out of football,
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Speaker 1: Like you have to really know the game of football
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Speaker 1: to once you plan against such savvy guys as a
17:16
Speaker 1: lot of these veterans in the league. So John we
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Speaker 1: knew that Trayvon Walker was a guy who wasn't gonna
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Speaker 1: win the sack battle in his first season against Aiden Hutchinson,
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Speaker 1: who you all recall was the other player the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: considered there and who went number two to the Detroit Lions.
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that he didn't have moments this
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Speaker 1: year where you said, wow, look at the number one
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Speaker 1: overall pick and his impact on the game. Yeah, he Uh,
17:39
Speaker 1: he affected things. I don't think they would have been
17:44
Speaker 1: uh nearly as good defensively, and I don't think they
17:47
Speaker 1: were great defensively. I think they were spectacular at times
17:50
Speaker 1: defensively and effective defensively when they needed to be a lot.
17:55
Speaker 1: I think they would like to get more consistent in
17:57
Speaker 1: that area as well. But I think Trey On Walker
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Speaker 1: was a big reason that they were as good as
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Speaker 1: they were. To me, the judgment clock on him now
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Speaker 1: starts because he's playing a a a tough position to
18:13
Speaker 1: come in and uh what he was trying to do
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Speaker 1: to transition to a pass rusher and be effective as
18:22
Speaker 1: a rookie. It is difficult. Uh. I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: really pay much attention to rookie performance in terms of
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Speaker 1: how I think they're going to be in their career.
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Speaker 1: Now he needs to start being more impactful. Uh. I
18:39
Speaker 1: think now you can start judging that a lot better
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Speaker 1: than you can as a rookie. All Right, we use
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Speaker 1: the word continuity in the A block during Big Things
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Speaker 1: and Johnson you're going to hear it a lot. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's hear about it from the quarterback Vil Lawrence. It
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Speaker 1: feels good, you know, knowing that just the foundation that
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Speaker 1: we have here, that we that we set this season
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Speaker 1: and last offseason, and just knowing that I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be in the same system and all those things moving forward.
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Speaker 1: I Mean, I'm really excited to have that experience and
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Speaker 1: just have all this this tape to learn from and
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Speaker 1: so many things that you know, as as many things
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Speaker 1: that we did good this year, there's a lot of
19:13
Speaker 1: things that we can do better and just just the
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Speaker 1: improvements that we can make, and UM, that's really exciting
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Speaker 1: moving Forward'm not gonna have to learn new offense and
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Speaker 1: just to have that stability. Um, it's really exciting for
19:22
Speaker 1: myself for for all of our guys on offense, and um,
19:25
Speaker 1: it's it's really exciting. I don't think he knows yet
19:30
Speaker 1: how excited he is. It makes any sense because um,
19:33
Speaker 1: he had been through this. Uh. I think he's been
19:37
Speaker 1: told by the coaches, Hey, year two in a system
19:41
Speaker 1: is going to be really cool for lack of a
19:45
Speaker 1: better word, and he's hopeful. Um. I think by next
19:50
Speaker 1: training camp he will be able from experience and authority
19:54
Speaker 1: to say wow, you know, and he probably won't because
19:58
Speaker 1: you don't want to give away your hand, right think
20:00
Speaker 1: he I think by next training camp he will feel, uh,
20:06
Speaker 1: he will feel sort of like a gambler in Vegas
20:10
Speaker 1: who knows how the game's gonna come out. Well, look,
20:14
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. In three he's gonna have
20:16
Speaker 1: confidence that it's gonna be really special. In three years
20:18
Speaker 1: at Clemson, he had the same offense all three years.
20:21
Speaker 1: But in three years since right his last year at
20:23
Speaker 1: Clemson and his first years in the NFL, he's had
20:26
Speaker 1: different systems and different coordinators and different talent. So I'm
20:29
Speaker 1: sure that he's looking forward to feeling as if he's
20:32
Speaker 1: got a mastery of the offense as opposed to still
20:35
Speaker 1: learning the nuances and technology are. One area that we
20:38
Speaker 1: paid a lot of attention to this year was the
20:40
Speaker 1: Jaguars locker room. It wasn't necessarily very strong ine and
20:45
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson made that emphasis. I know I'm under selling
20:48
Speaker 1: that at this point, trying not to beat the drums
20:51
Speaker 1: of the past too loud this morning, because it's the
20:53
Speaker 1: future that we're focused on. And Christian Kirk says, from
20:56
Speaker 1: a locker room perspective, they got this one. Well, I
21:01
Speaker 1: think we have, like I said, the foundation here. We
21:03
Speaker 1: have the core guys that we need here to you know,
21:07
Speaker 1: help you know, keep that going. You know what we
21:09
Speaker 1: have have established and you know, for all the new
21:12
Speaker 1: guys that that come in UM to be able to
21:14
Speaker 1: buy into that. And it's on you know, the leaders
21:16
Speaker 1: and the guys in this locker room to help, you know,
21:18
Speaker 1: kind of insinuate that you know with them and you know,
21:20
Speaker 1: for them to buy in UM. But I know, with
21:23
Speaker 1: you know, Doug and you know Trent, with the type
21:25
Speaker 1: of guys that they look for and that they want
21:27
Speaker 1: to bring in, They're gonna bring in the right guys.
21:29
Speaker 1: You know, they did it this year and they'll do
21:30
Speaker 1: it again and so that you know, it would be
21:32
Speaker 1: easy for those guys coming and buy it. Yeah, we
21:35
Speaker 1: talked about it a lot all year, but I think
21:37
Speaker 1: in this final show you've got to give the front
21:43
Speaker 1: office Trent Baky, whoever was doing the research on these guys,
21:47
Speaker 1: to me, this was an amazing free agent class, uh,
21:52
Speaker 1: to be able to bring in guys who truly made
21:55
Speaker 1: an impact this fast, who all became core players very quickly.
22:01
Speaker 1: Again on the list, Lou Khan, Ingram Kirk, Uh, Jones
22:07
Speaker 1: is A Jones, Uh, Darius Williams Uh, Brandon Sherriff Arden Key.
22:13
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about what seven or eight guys
22:17
Speaker 1: all who had impact, all who fit. You know, we
22:22
Speaker 1: talk all the time about this team doesn't have core
22:25
Speaker 1: guys who have grown. Um. I think that's key. I
22:28
Speaker 1: think that's what the franchise will look like in five years.
22:32
Speaker 1: As a GM, when you don't have that, you try
22:35
Speaker 1: very hard to find free agents who can be that
22:39
Speaker 1: for the short term and come in and feel like
22:41
Speaker 1: they've been here for five years. Those guys I listed
22:44
Speaker 1: Brian feel like they've been here for four or five years. Uh.
22:49
Speaker 1: And I think did that letters You have to add Robertson,
22:51
Speaker 1: Harris and Ray Sean Jenkins from the year before, absolutely
22:54
Speaker 1: and and Marvin Jones, who, uh, Marvin Jones me was
22:58
Speaker 1: a remarkable story this year, who didn't have the numbers
23:03
Speaker 1: that he's used to in his career, but had huge plays.
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean, this team is not in the playoffs without
23:10
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones and fit accepted role was leader. Uh, it
23:17
Speaker 1: was a remarkable job. Credit to the players and the
23:21
Speaker 1: GM for putting this together. When I don't know if
23:24
Speaker 1: people realize. Everybody says in April, hey, here's my free
23:28
Speaker 1: agent list. You see it on the internet, here's my
23:30
Speaker 1: ideal free agents. It never works out. No, unbelievable that
23:37
Speaker 1: it worked out this way where you feel like these
23:39
Speaker 1: guys and I even know what this word means, but
23:42
Speaker 1: you feel like they're jaguars. And how many times, Brian,
23:44
Speaker 1: you've been here twenty seven years, how many times have
23:48
Speaker 1: free agents come in and you can't wait to see
23:51
Speaker 1: them leave? Exactly, Hugh Douglas. For those of you who
23:53
Speaker 1: put a long time, this ain't that. So it's impressive. Alright,
23:58
Speaker 1: Three more we want to get through here. Josh Alan
24:00
Speaker 1: talked about the defense and the improvement that they saw
24:03
Speaker 1: this year, starting back with Tennessee. I think the sister
24:08
Speaker 1: urgency picked up tremendously because we needed it to. Uh So,
24:12
Speaker 1: to have that approach, you know, going into the season
24:15
Speaker 1: next year early, it's gonna be you know, detrimental for us.
24:18
Speaker 1: But you know, I love who we had, Love that
24:21
Speaker 1: we never waived running to love that we never quit
24:23
Speaker 1: on anybody or quitting each other first and almost and
24:26
Speaker 1: we just saw what we can improve and each we too,
24:29
Speaker 1: we improved. Uh we didn't get to take aways we
24:31
Speaker 1: wanted to the last couple of weeks, and you know,
24:34
Speaker 1: and it goes back to when we won those games.
24:36
Speaker 1: We did what we needed to do as a defense.
24:38
Speaker 1: We did our you know, stop to run the fecial quarterback,
24:41
Speaker 1: create takeaways. You know, we do those two things we
24:43
Speaker 1: win games. We didn't do those things as well, and
24:46
Speaker 1: we didn't you know, the outcome was the outcome. Uh So,
24:49
Speaker 1: you know, really really coming back after that another year
24:53
Speaker 1: of the scheme and knowing where we need to be
24:55
Speaker 1: in certain offenses that we're gonna play this year, well
24:58
Speaker 1: next year, uh it's gonna help out a lot. Yeah,
25:03
Speaker 1: And I think something he said they're sort of hit home,
25:05
Speaker 1: and I guess this is what they're kind of looking
25:08
Speaker 1: at in the playoffs in't ma any takeaways. Um, so
25:13
Speaker 1: that's where the defense it was great to takeaways all year.
25:17
Speaker 1: I think that's where you need to get a little
25:20
Speaker 1: higher end pass rush overall consistency to get the takeaways
25:27
Speaker 1: against the better teams in big situations. And that's a
25:30
Speaker 1: little bit. Takeaways are tough, and two games isn't really
25:33
Speaker 1: a fair trend. But you know what I'm getting. They
25:36
Speaker 1: need to get, you know, higher end pass rush. Josh
25:41
Speaker 1: Allen will be interesting next year. Um. He had a
25:46
Speaker 1: really good second half the season. I know people are
25:49
Speaker 1: sort of down on him numbers wise. You know, he's
25:52
Speaker 1: a little hard to figure out in terms of analysis.
25:54
Speaker 1: In that way, I will be interduced interested to see
25:57
Speaker 1: next year. Can he be for the entire season what
26:01
Speaker 1: he was in the second half. If he is, that's good.
26:04
Speaker 1: So something to watch next year. Playing on his fifth
26:07
Speaker 1: year option, his contract status, they could update it as
26:09
Speaker 1: well if they decided over the second half of the
26:12
Speaker 1: season that he's worthy of it. He's got an eleven
26:15
Speaker 1: a half million dollar fifth year option and they need
26:17
Speaker 1: some breathing room there. He might be one of those
26:19
Speaker 1: guys that they make a decision. Would be interesting to
26:21
Speaker 1: see on that front. He said the other day that
26:23
Speaker 1: they hadn't talked about it yet. Uh, it's probably something
26:26
Speaker 1: they're still talking about. So I don't know what's going
26:28
Speaker 1: all that starts today, all right. Two more Loukon in
26:31
Speaker 1: the post game at Arrowhead Stadium talked about his experience
26:36
Speaker 1: in his first playoff run. He talked about it again
26:38
Speaker 1: on Monday in terms of hitting that big time football moment.
26:44
Speaker 1: The long season doesn't play playoff football. Um, that was
26:47
Speaker 1: all new to me. I put my heart in for
26:49
Speaker 1: a seasons like, oh, we got more games and every
26:51
Speaker 1: every game after that's a championship game. So um, to
26:55
Speaker 1: be right there with the contender, I feel like we
26:57
Speaker 1: didn't play our cleaners football and ever we were seven
26:59
Speaker 1: points and now at the end of the game, let's
27:01
Speaker 1: let's do what we need to do early in this
27:02
Speaker 1: season so we can be are playing our best football
27:05
Speaker 1: that late in the season. It's an important mind. I
27:08
Speaker 1: mean Trent mentioned yesterday when you talked to Trent, Balky
27:11
Speaker 1: and Doug talked about it all year. So I think
27:14
Speaker 1: it's starting to permeate the franchise a little bit. There
27:17
Speaker 1: is a mentality that goes along with being in a
27:22
Speaker 1: perennial playoff team, and Doug talked about it all year,
27:26
Speaker 1: having to be prepared to play in in January and
27:29
Speaker 1: into February. Uh, players they've only been like a tennory
27:34
Speaker 1: eleven players who had been in the playoffs around here,
27:36
Speaker 1: so it didn't permeate the locker room. Foyer talked about
27:40
Speaker 1: sort of feeling it in January. Oh, okay, we got
27:45
Speaker 1: more games, and I think he went on to say,
27:47
Speaker 1: I think it was him who said it. Yeah, I'll
27:51
Speaker 1: my mindset next year will be that. Now. Um, that's
27:56
Speaker 1: not nothing if the players are expecting that ready or it. Uh,
28:01
Speaker 1: there's something to that. And Trent, I thought, said it
28:05
Speaker 1: in a very interesting way. Uh, it felt like after
28:11
Speaker 1: Detroit and Trent didn't reference Detroit, but putting two and
28:15
Speaker 1: two together, like the teams sort of started to get
28:19
Speaker 1: how you had prepared the intensity level that you needed
28:22
Speaker 1: to win this time of year, and you did sort
28:25
Speaker 1: of see them learn that, you saw the results come
28:26
Speaker 1: from that. I think all that sort of ties together.
28:30
Speaker 1: It's why I think you will see this team move
28:33
Speaker 1: into that status of every year. I'm say they win
28:36
Speaker 1: the Vision every year because but every year contending, every
28:39
Speaker 1: year ten wins. Ish it feels like they know mentally
28:44
Speaker 1: what it takes to get there. Now, All right, let's
28:46
Speaker 1: hear finally from Evan Ingram, who is the free agent.
28:50
Speaker 1: Most people are concerned with the tight end, coming off
28:52
Speaker 1: the best year of his career, and he's interested in
28:56
Speaker 1: being in Jacksonville. Yeah, I mean, conversations will get there.
29:03
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it's I think everything will take care
29:05
Speaker 1: of himself in that aspect. But um, like I said before,
29:09
Speaker 1: there's definitely a place where I want to be. I
29:11
Speaker 1: don't know where I want to continue my career and uh,
29:14
Speaker 1: you know, be a part of work being built here.
29:15
Speaker 1: For sure. I think he'll be back, and I don't
29:18
Speaker 1: want to minimize the drama of it. Uh. Understanding from
29:23
Speaker 1: both sides is that they both want to be back
29:25
Speaker 1: and feel like something's gonna have to make it work.
29:28
Speaker 1: My senses, the franchise tag if everything doesn't work out,
29:32
Speaker 1: franchise tag is a possibility for Evan and it just
29:34
Speaker 1: seems right to me. The bigger question Joan Taylor, who
29:39
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal year. Um, I think they really want
29:44
Speaker 1: him back, and you wonder about the numbers getting stratospheric
29:48
Speaker 1: for a for a right tackle in this league right now?
29:51
Speaker 1: Um my senses is there both back, but Jawan is
29:56
Speaker 1: the one that I'll really watch, not because Evan isn't
29:58
Speaker 1: isn't important, but my gut is that that works out.
30:02
Speaker 1: I hope they're both back because Joant is the kind
30:04
Speaker 1: of guy that you need draft develop turn into big
30:09
Speaker 1: time player, good guy to have around the locker room. Uh,
30:14
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy when they talk about signing
30:16
Speaker 1: their own, that's what you want. Hold off because that's mine.
30:19
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30:51
Speaker 1: This that's this or them and time for this or
30:56
Speaker 1: that on Drive Time, Johnny, what you got? Well, I
30:59
Speaker 1: know people are tired of the topic. Um, but you
31:02
Speaker 1: know it's our show. I'm not tired of them. Um.
31:07
Speaker 1: You know, uh, ninety two and this will be the
31:11
Speaker 1: last time that we really go over this, um because
31:14
Speaker 1: now we'll compare everything to right. Well, and that's why
31:19
Speaker 1: I use That's why uses the topic. Isn't that amazing
31:24
Speaker 1: that N six was something that I always thought would
31:28
Speaker 1: never be repeated, Not because I looked back with rose
31:31
Speaker 1: colored glasses on this great you know, but because it
31:34
Speaker 1: was so unusual and and because it was such a
31:38
Speaker 1: moment where a franchise that was unknown all of a
31:43
Speaker 1: sudden had relevancy. Well, this franchise needed that. And at
31:52
Speaker 1: at two and six you started mentioning before I did,
31:54
Speaker 1: and I was like, let's just not go there because, um,
32:00
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know which is more memorable.
32:06
Speaker 1: I think what's cool is twenty six years apart. I
32:10
Speaker 1: have been told by some people, Hey, I've always heard
32:14
Speaker 1: about ninety six. Uh I read about it. Wow, this
32:20
Speaker 1: is what it was. Yeah, that's what it was. How cool?
32:24
Speaker 1: So and that's what's really cool to me is the
32:27
Speaker 1: fact that two and two whatever, it's fun again. And
32:32
Speaker 1: I hope that people who watched this embrace that what
32:37
Speaker 1: a ride, What a moment? How cool? Seasons like that
32:40
Speaker 1: intrench you, right, they dig you into the community. I
32:43
Speaker 1: thought about this um as as it was going along,
32:47
Speaker 1: and I thought, which one would I say was was better?
32:51
Speaker 1: Which one was more important. I'm gonna stick with ninety
32:55
Speaker 1: six still because they got to the a f C
32:56
Speaker 1: Championship Game. But if they had gotten there this year,
32:59
Speaker 1: gotten the game, I probably would have said this year.
33:02
Speaker 1: But if you go back to Tom Coffin was four
33:06
Speaker 1: and seven and under fire. They were talking about firing him. Right.
33:10
Speaker 1: People in the community were like, you gotta change coaches.
33:12
Speaker 1: It's a little different this year. Doug was kidding and
33:15
Speaker 1: he had some room. It wasn't the pressure situation that
33:19
Speaker 1: Tom was under that year. But had they won in
33:21
Speaker 1: Kansas City, I was fully prepared to say the two
33:24
Speaker 1: was gonna take a notch up. Here's the thing. Who cares?
33:28
Speaker 1: They were both wonderful and you know, at as a
33:32
Speaker 1: couple of old cynical guys or I'm cynical, you're the
33:35
Speaker 1: rosy adsmin um. Thankful to be a part of it
33:40
Speaker 1: and glad to have experienced well, and that you're back
33:45
Speaker 1: because you spent all those years in the indie to
33:46
Speaker 1: see both ends right, to see it again. Um, And
33:50
Speaker 1: I remember thinking in ninety wonderful we'll ever see this again?
33:53
Speaker 1: And I'm more glad and they were way over but
33:56
Speaker 1: um from the internet, not really time. Glad for the fans.
34:03
Speaker 1: I said this before, but to me, it's the overriding
34:06
Speaker 1: theme of the season. This fan base that has been
34:09
Speaker 1: so loyal and so passionate and so uh rained down
34:16
Speaker 1: upon from the national media. That was always a great
34:19
Speaker 1: fan base. I got to enjoy this, got to see
34:25
Speaker 1: it at the thrill of it, got to see him
34:28
Speaker 1: at home. Uh. I don't know. Short of a Super Bowl,
34:33
Speaker 1: I don't know how they how they could have been
34:35
Speaker 1: given more and how deserving it was. And their numbers
34:38
Speaker 1: grew because you brought a lot of people in who
34:41
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily committed fans and they enjoyed the ride as well. Okay,
34:44
Speaker 1: you touched on mind. So we'll go real quickly through it.
34:46
Speaker 1: Mine is Juan Taylor, Evan Ingram. Which one do you
34:49
Speaker 1: want to get done most or let's change it first.
34:55
Speaker 1: What's the priority? I'm gonna say Juan Taylor. And here's why.
34:59
Speaker 1: Because the offensive line of the Kansas City Chiefs showed
35:03
Speaker 1: me where this team has to go. When Mahomes was
35:06
Speaker 1: injured and they had Chad Henning on the two yard line.
35:10
Speaker 1: From that moment forward in the game, the quarterback was clean.
35:13
Speaker 1: They took over the game. Juwan Taylor was a huge part,
35:16
Speaker 1: probably the best offensive line and they had this year.
35:18
Speaker 1: I want to keep the offensive line going forward and
35:21
Speaker 1: getting better. So I'm saying Juwan Taylor is number one
35:24
Speaker 1: and Evan Ingram comes into a very close number two.
35:28
Speaker 1: Yeah there, gosh, you want them both. I mean, it's
35:32
Speaker 1: it's uh And I do think my gut feeling is
35:36
Speaker 1: that I am sure that Ingram's gonna be here. Juwan
35:41
Speaker 1: just because of the nature of the position, the age,
35:45
Speaker 1: and how well he played. I worry about more. I
35:48
Speaker 1: worry about their high end contract that the Jaguars just say,
35:53
Speaker 1: you know what, I just can't match it. We've talked
35:56
Speaker 1: so long about not letting your own guys, that's your
35:58
Speaker 1: good players go. Now you finally have some. Here's sort
36:01
Speaker 1: of the dilemma in this offense. Uh. I think you
36:06
Speaker 1: can get by with without absolute top in elite offensive lineman. Uh.
36:15
Speaker 1: I think if the one is not here. I think
36:17
Speaker 1: they can win. I think they can get by, But
36:19
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to get by. You follow me, Oh,
36:23
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson never did in Philly. He wanted a big,
36:26
Speaker 1: talented offensive line. Yeah, so I think, uh, you know,
36:31
Speaker 1: I just think he's a guy that you figure out
36:33
Speaker 1: a way to keep him because over the next few
36:37
Speaker 1: years he could come to symbolize you're the line. He
36:42
Speaker 1: comes to be the guy. What did What did Doug
36:45
Speaker 1: say the other day when asked about the offensive line, said,
36:47
Speaker 1: do you like Trevor Lawrence? Right? So, yeah, I mean
36:51
Speaker 1: why I sure got the sense that he was going
36:54
Speaker 1: to go pound the table to keep seventy five. Yeah,
36:58
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the pounding table. We Yeah, I absolutely agree,
37:02
Speaker 1: and I hope they're both back because I guess I
37:06
Speaker 1: feel this way about everybody in the locker room as
37:09
Speaker 1: we close. What a great locker room was to deal
37:11
Speaker 1: with what a great and I do think that's why
37:15
Speaker 1: if if you're watching this and you connected to this team,
37:20
Speaker 1: you were right to connect to this team because for
37:22
Speaker 1: the most part, these were really good guys and really
37:24
Speaker 1: good to work for. Made a great season, and you know,
37:26
Speaker 1: so did you? Brian? Thanks John, I really enjoyed it,
37:28
Speaker 1: especially after Miss Sullivan left and you and I stepped
37:31
Speaker 1: in here and had to do this together exactly. I
37:33
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38:06
Speaker 1: Back to wrap this up, we've been talking for them
38:08
Speaker 1: forty minutes or so, so I'm not sure there's a
38:10
Speaker 1: whole lot left to be said. Uh. Dates of interest.
38:13
Speaker 1: We expect to hear something on Calvin Ridley shortly after
38:16
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Then um uh, April this year is
38:21
Speaker 1: the date that that we're talking about. That's when the
38:23
Speaker 1: players return for the off season. Yeah, franchise tags will
38:26
Speaker 1: go on early early in March, late February. Francy begins
38:31
Speaker 1: uh mid March again, I think it'll be far more
38:35
Speaker 1: about retaining own this year with maybe one or two
38:40
Speaker 1: guys from the outside, but uh, this is more now
38:44
Speaker 1: about quieter off seasons and drafting and developing. Uh the
38:49
Speaker 1: headlines from here on out. What you hope is that
38:51
Speaker 1: they're during the season and night in March. Um. And
38:54
Speaker 1: I guess the last thing to touch on it. You know,
38:56
Speaker 1: we started this show last year about this team thinking
38:59
Speaker 1: six seven and to get to ten is just far
39:03
Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. Doug Peterson and the job that he did
39:07
Speaker 1: is coach of the Year material, whether he gets that
39:10
Speaker 1: or not. There's so many votes that come from big
39:12
Speaker 1: markets in New York had a big year with the Giants,
39:14
Speaker 1: and obviously San Francisco did this year as well. Um
39:18
Speaker 1: at the job in Philadelphia that Nick Sirianni did, So
39:21
Speaker 1: they're all going to get a lot of attention, but
39:23
Speaker 1: let's not forget what it took to go from where
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Speaker 1: they were a year ago to where they are today.
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Speaker 1: Congratulations to Doug Peterson and thank you to him and
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Speaker 1: his staff and a remarkable job. A Coach of the
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Speaker 1: Year or whatever. I think he's going to be the
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Speaker 1: coach of the era over the next X number of years,
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Speaker 1: how long he's here, Because to me, I've around a
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Speaker 1: winning team, has been around losing teams. He has built
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Speaker 1: something that I cannot see not a sustaining So credit
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Speaker 1: to him. I um, I don't know how you could
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Speaker 1: have done a better job. All right, that'll do it.
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Joe and to Reber and to A Blake
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Speaker 1: and Joe and the entire crew who helped us all
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Speaker 1: season long in putting this process together and turning it
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Speaker 1: into a show three days a week. We'll take a
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Speaker 1: few weeks off. You should as well enjoy the super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: and we'll be back in late February with Jags Drive Time,
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Speaker 1: looking forward to three