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Episode 159: Russell Westbrook Retiring Doesn't Feel Real!! · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Greg: My fault. Jax: After 18 seasons, retired. He's a legendary career, NBA top 75, 2017 league MVP, nine time All-Star, Greg: Thank you so much, Jalen Brown This how this nigga sound right now. You are my favorite player. Jax: I fucking... bro Greg: for those that didn't know what we were talking about, Pat McGraw dropped a supposed album that I will not be listening to, but I've heard Jax: I will never. We've. No sir. No sir. That's it. Just no sir. Just Greg: Yeah, nah. Jax: no sir. Greg: Nah. Which is crazy 'cause I was actually gonna ask you before I even heard about this, I was gonna ask, did you hear about T I dropping a AI album? Jax: I get it, mean? Greg: Tiger. Jax: Cause was like, T.I. can actually rap, T.I. wouldn't do that. But yeah, I Greg: No, ti tiger, tiger, T Y G A. Jax: knew Tyga was dropping his AI album. I wasn't going to listen to it cause one, it's Tyga. Two, it's an AI album. Like what am I doing here, bro? Like, no, I'm cool on it. And then three, they keep doing that stupid, like, like that other AI song where they pretend like they're in the eighties and stuff. Like that shit is terrible. It's not good. Like I know it was like. Greg: the ones where they I miss when it was just Patrick Starr and never would have made it. I miss those days. Bring that back. Jax: Bro, like those videos are still in my algorithm, bro. Every single SpongeBob Greg: Break. Jax: AI scene video makes me die laughing, bro. And they started putting like, they started putting Super Mario in Greg: Bring us back. Bring back Leland Cat bring Jax: it and Goku in it, bro. It should be killing me, bro. It should be killing me. Greg: Yeah, bring bring back Leland and Cash Machine. Bring back Bring them bring them niggas back. I wanna have fun again. Hell Jax: This man forgot his phone. Greg: no, that's Man, welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keys podcast, the only podcast where we do something different every single day, not an hour, not a episode. This is a daily thing. Once again. We keep we keep doing this like once a month, once every two months. I'm your host, Greg. That is Jax: Hahaha! Greg: my that is my host, Jax. Welcome to the show. I understand we haven't introduced ourselves in all Jax: in a very long time. Greg: all off season. I had to remind myself, these niggas don't know you. You gotta Jax: Fair Greg: introduce yourself. but this is the podcast for casuals. If this is a If you are a casual, this is the show for you. News flash. You are casual if you decide to pick this pod that's your pod. So just embrace it. Embrace it and donate. Donations. Donation. Here comes the money. Here comes the money. You know, Jax, have you been have you been hearing about like that lottery ball? Like that power ball that's like it's like starting to get up there. I think it's like the pot is like at like nine hundred and eighty seven million or some shit like that. Jax: Every Powerball is up there, bro. I don't... Like, I haven't heard about any one in particular, but like, if you say it's a Powerball, Greg: Yeah. Jax: it's a crazy amount, I believe it. Greg: Yeah, it it got up to like nine hundred and eighty seven million. And I was like, Yeah. and after taxes, the full payout is it's two two hundred eighty. I was like, damn, that's a big ass drop. That's a that's a that's a big ass drop. But the the first thing that rem that it reminded me of was that that sound that we used to have for the donations, and it was from the lottery ticket. I can't eat. I'm broke. I thought about that shit. I was like, damn, damn, what an era. We're not broke no more. Actually, we were never broke. But that's that's that's for another that's for another time. make sure y'all comment down below, click these links, donate. Donate to a charitable cause. A dollar a day keeps the doctor away. Jax: I don't think that's the quote goes, but we'll continue. Greg: You know? We do not care. We don't care. You know. And since we're there, let's go ahead and talk about the quick things that we do not care about. First thing. We do not care. That white man that holds power. That that could have been anybody when I said it like that. Exactly. Exactly, Jax. I'm talking about Bill Belichick. Does it go round? Is niggas on leave. I don't Jax: Yes. Greg: really have too much information on this, Jax. What what what's what the word would it be? Jax: yeah, Michael Lombardi, I meant to put more information in there, but Michael Lombardi, who's been Bill Belichick's right hand man for, or right now he was, he's right hand man in North Carolina, but him and Bill have been like this forever. yeah, he got placed on leave and nobody knows why, but the people are saying like there's an HR investigation into it and blah, blah, blah. And everyone's just like, Bill, he should have seen this coming. Like he's just seen most things coming because Michael Lombardi has never been good at his job. I think the. most famous quote about Michael Lombardi was by Al Davis. And he was like, Michael Lombardi been fired from every single job he's ever had. And that's a quote. And that's true because he's been fired from every single job he's ever had because he's not particularly good at it. But he somehow, I really think he's not related to Vince Lombardi in any way, but I think because he has that last name and like, knows Bill Belichick, people like attach him to football greatness and all that, but like, nah. And it's just, feel like this is just another example of Bill Belichick and that just like his whole empire sort of crumbling down around him. So, suck to suck, but whatever. Greg: He said if it's a HR thing, interesting. Jax: Yeah, they said that they're doing like an HR investigation on him. But like that's Greg: Down. Jax: all people know about it though, because they haven't released any other details around it. So, I don't know what did. Greg: Shit. I ain't gonna say it out loud, but I know what that means. And since and since I'm thinking that, I'ma ask you a question, Jax. Best of seven. Mike Lombardi or Forrester? Jax: Best of seven? Forrester. Forrester. Greg: Will you take it in Jax: Easily actually, easily actually. Very, very easy. Forrester. Greg: Is it is a sweep? Jax: Sweet. Greg: my god. Yeah, he was yeah, he was snorting that bitch up. Don't care. Yeah, you know. It's kinda hard. You right. Because with Lombardi, it's just speculations. We got cold Jax: We don't, we don't know yet. Greg: art we got cold of hard facts. Jax: You Greg: Hey, I went back and looked at that episode. I should have turned the volume down. That that nigga was snorting loud as fuck. Nigga was like Jax: He was right by the camera. Like, know, he's just laughing. Greg: Who's Jax: I can't like. Greg: I was I was working out listening to the pod. I had to turn my shit down. I'm like, god damn. God damn. Yeah, he gotta chill. Jax: I don't get man. I've never done cocaine, but cocaine don't seem that fun. It don't seem fun. Nothing seems fun enough for me to sniff it bro. Like put like powder up my nose. Nothing seems fun enough. Greg: Yeah, they couldn't yeah, nah. That's crazy. And I didn't like the way people's teeth look after crack. You know, so n none of that white stuff. Jax: I don't think drugs are bad for everybody's teeth, every single drug. I don't think there's a single drug that's safe for teeth. Maybe like shrooms maybe? But like that's it. Greg: Yeah, no, but it it just felt like it was a fast DK with crack. Or maybe, or maybe Snowfall just gave me a bad interpretation. I'm just maybe it was just too Jax: you Greg: sensation sensationalized for me. Like, God, you was pretty in season one. What the fuck going on now? This is crazy. Jax: You Greg: We do not care. We do not care. Next, next one up, Terrion Arnold. the FaceTime enjoyer. Has signed with the Seahawks. There to elevate that defense. Or keep it stagnant, whichever one you wanna. Jack's Jax: Yeah? Greg: your thoughts. Jax: I guess, like, I guess, like, I don't know what else to say. I do know. I think I forget what podcast I was listening to, but they were, had like more intimate knowledge of like the Seahawks and the goings on of that. And they were like, they said the coaches were surprised that they were really, that they released him or not the Seahawks, but, the Lions. They're talking about the Lions. said the Lions were surprised that, like Lions coaching staff was surprised that, that the team had released him in the first, like they didn't expect him to get released so fast. Greg: Interesting. so they really wasn't Jax: Like, dang. But I mean, Terry, not only was... Greg: on the so they really wasn't on the same page for real. wow. Jax: Yeah, at least not like the DB coaches and like probably defensive coordinator and all that. mean, turned out he wasn't necessarily that good. So I mean, maybe he might work out with SEOS because Mike McDonald knows what he's doing and he still has talent, like, mm-mm. Man, he might end up in jail. So shoot. Greg: Outside of pat you nobody fucking knows. Nobody knows. Cause just like four weeks ago, that nigga was in one of those like jackets. Not not the straight jackets, but like one of those like he had like a different Jax: yeah, I something. Greg: color. Like he like on watch. Like they gotta watch this nigga. I was Jax: We got a suicide watch jacket. Greg: like, oof. So what a turn of events. I Jax: Yes, it may. Greg: I I as I'm looking at it, outside of Stingling, Stingley and and Pass Hertan, I don't know a lot of like just Elite corners. Like corners that's my God. Like the corner Jax: Nah, Don't do that. Greg: game ain't really been like that in a little minute. I'm not gonna lie. Jax: Nah, I can't let you do that because Christian Gonzalez with the Patriots, still good. Denzel Ward. Greg: I'm not saying I'm not saying he not good. I'm just saying like Denzel Ward is far. Jax: But he plays for the Browns, so there's that. Greg: Yeah, so like yeah for Jax: The other corner on the Texans, who's also every, all the DBs on the Texans are called, so there's that. Greg: You not putting the you're not putting this version of of D Bs up against the twenty tens. You not doing it. Richard Sherman, Cromartie, Revis Island. Jax: Who's in 20? Richard Sherman, Garell, Marty, Patrick Peterson. Greg: Patrick Peterson said Jalen Ramsey, Marcus Pet you said Marcus Peters already? Jax: I did not say Marcus Peters. Greg: Marcus Peters. shit. it's lay it's lay it's Lay Jax: I feel like now it's Greg: part of the tens. Jax: Yeah? Greg: Sleigh. Jax: I feel like nowadays though, like it's harder for cornerbacks to get picks now because like quarterbacks just don't, unless you're like ass, you don't throw them. Like, I feel like quarterback just want to be efficient so bad. They're not, nobody's a gunslinger for real. Greg: Yeah, niggas, niggas scared of th niggas scared of throwing turkey subs, bro. Like niggas niggas scared to hit hit a a Will Levis. You know what I mean? Jax: Yeah. Greg: I feel that. I I understand that. And I'm not saying that this group is bad, but I remember like literally like two years ago. my God, Sauce Gardner. Now it's just now it's just a mod, you know? Jax: Ice Oz. Greg: I say all that to say, you know, Terrian, Terrian is not like And elite corner are are good, but I I feel like in this generation of corners, he can still be serviceable. There's there's Jax: He was the first round draft pick for a reason. There's still talent there. He's not old. And Mike McDonald is Greg: Yeah. For sure. Jax: a good coach, so we will see what he can become. Greg: All I'm saying is if he was in if he was in the twenty tens, he'd be in trouble. He'd s he'd still have that jacket on. But next. We do not care. How could I forget? James Pierce suspended for eight games. I'm gonna be honest with you, Jax. This one kind of surprised me in a good way, not derogatory. Because I I and if it was up to me, it'd be more games. But I really didn't think it was gonna be this many games. On like I'm saying it in the sense of like, I'm actually surprised he got eight. A nigga like me would have thought, okay, Goodell gonna give that nigga two. Or not any at all. Like, you know, I d I didn't know. But eight? Jax: Two would have been late to, there would have been all of the Delos. Everybody's always going to do that with the ass. Greg: Well like I would've I I would have said something like four games and they appealed to try to bump it down to two or like six games and they bump it down to four. That's what I was thinking. I didn't think it was going past six. So when I saw eight, I was like, damn, that's half the season. Or damn near half the season. I was like Jax: Basically, yeah. Greg: I was like, okay. Not necessarily mad, but like I said, if it was up to B, nigga wouldn't be in this league this year. I ain't gonna lie, I would have just took the nigga off the books the whole year. But Jax, your reaction to an eight game suspension. Jax: I don't know how like eight games, that's half the season. So like, I'm not mad at it, but it still feels like, don't cause he never like, it feels weird cause he Greg: It still feels lenient, like it still feels generous. Jax: never got punished in the court of law, which I, I'm not saying like, I'm not saying he shouldn't, I'm not saying he should get like suspended less or whatever. I'm just saying like he didn't get suspended or he didn't get in trouble with the court of law. like he's getting in trouble with the NFL. So I guess that sort of makes up for a little bit, like. I've seen the video. This nigga was crazy, bro. Like, he was acting crazy. Like, how he not getting more trouble? Like, I'm not trying to advocate Greg: I think yeah. Jax: for, send black men to jail and whoop up and all that. But like, I'm just like, bro, I've seen the video. He hit her car with his car. was chasing after her. It was like 17 police officers trying to tackle this nigga. and all he had to do was Greg: Right yeah. Jax: like, and he had to like write her like an apology letter. And I think like stay away from her and... That's it. So I mean, I guess the eight games is cool, but I don't know, bro. Greg: Yeah, I mean, if anybody has seen that video, all all I can do is say that nigga's blessed to to be where he's at. Like he's blessed in the sense of Jax: He looked at it and shoot him. Deadass. Greg: Yes, bro. Mike. my God. If that was any other nigga, my God. Death. Jax: I don't even think they knew his name. I think he just, I literally think he just got lucky, bro. Cause they were, he's a six foot, like six, five black man, six, five, 240 muscle strong fighting off police, fighting off like five police officers. Like he's lucky he did not get shot, bro. Like honestly. Greg: Yeah, that was that was crazy. But I think and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to downplay it or anything like that. But what I will say is that I think the reason why the punishments didn't get pushed further, it it kinda gives me like that Ray Rice vibe where like the woman feels like she was just trying to like move past the shit and not like Jax: That's, that's, guess. Greg: press it any further or do like more charges or or or whatever. And you know, that's all right. You know, as long as she's safe or whatever, like, you know, do, you know, do you. I'm I'm not here to dictate what you should have done, what you should have done. She got a WNBA career too. That would have prolonged all her season 'cause the season not even you know, WNBA seen not even long. So I can I can understand it from that standpoint. But man. Sh hey man Jax: I don't know about, Greg: God got favorites. God got Jax: exactly how I feel about it bro. Greg: favorites, nigga. I don't know, bro. Like this this is crazy. I've never seen no shit like this. Nor do I wanna nor do I ever want to see this some shit like this again. Like I've been I never wanna have a situation like this ever again. That's crazy. but ATL not gonna be doing shit no way like this season anyway, so All your quarterbacks are injured, so you might as well treat this shit like a gap year anyway. Like at this point, like I'm James Pierce wasn't gonna be playing for anything meaningful this year. At all. so that's why you're on the We do not care. We do not care. last and finally, Troy Eggman has an office job with the Miami Dolphins. Had no clue about this. wasn't until I got an ESPN notification that he would be like, compromised and are limited in like his Jax: Yeah. Greg: on air, play by play stuff. Like it it you know, it's a conflict of interest or whatever the case may be due to his role with the Miami Dolphins. I don't know what role he actually has, but that was that was a wild one. Jax: think he's like, I knew about this, I heard about this like this, because he took this job like months ago or whatever. I remember I said, I heard about it, I was like, this weird because it's a dolphin, not the Cowboys. And I was like, he wouldn't have anything to do with the Cowboys because it's all Jones family. So they wouldn't listen to him for real anyways. But like. I guess, know, he said, I think it came, he said like he didn't sort of understand why he was having sort of limitations or whatever. Because he was like, he only works Monday night football and he was like, the Dolphins are not going to be good this season. I'm even calling you their games. So I agree with him with that. So I don't really think he should have had any type of limitations, but it is what it is. It's not that big of a deal. Greg: Yeah, I mean, it feels like the same lim it's probably gonna Jax: It's sending a sound wave. Greg: Yeah, same limitations as Tom Brady. He can't like I guess they do like the pre meetings and stuff like they can't do pre meetings with the with the other teams and stuff. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Especially with all the gambling stuff that's going on these days. Just, you know, you might as well just keep everybody's nose clean. Even though Troy Aikman could give too less of a fuck right now, like He knows. He knows he he knows his team is tanking. Jax: Exactly. Greg: so he'll be all right. But let's get into some things that we do care about. We'll start off with something on a little bit of a lower note. Don Nelson passed away at the age of eighty six. Jax: Now this. Greg: I was about to say like a cause but I like, I mean he's eighty six, so it's probably just natural. Jax: Yeah, like this happened, I think this happened like last week when we recording. we were actually recording so we didn't get to it. But yeah, Don Nelson, he was the winningest coach of all time. And then Greg Popovich passed him. like, just doing a little bit, because I haven't heard the name before, but like he coached way back when, or his prime was way back when when he was coached. So I'm really two up on him. But he was like the first person to ever like. Implement small ball basketball. They called it Nelly ball back then. He was the first person to like Greg: That'll be bull. Jax: have like the point forward because I think it was Marcus Johnson was the guy who doing that for him. What else? Greg: Yeah, Mika still done. Jax: Yeah, so he did that. One of those games he was a five time champion with the Celtics like he was with Bill Russell in them all them years. He didn't win as a coach, but I mean he got five rings to play or something. That's good, I guess. What else? He was Steph's last coach or not Steph's last coach, but Steph's first coach, my fault. He was also one of the people that brought Dirk and Steve Nash to Dallas. I don't know, he had his hand in you. A lot of people talk about, you can't tell the story of blank without this. He's one of the people, you cannot tell the story of basketball without him. And I didn't even know about all he had done until recently when I was looking him up. He was everywhere. He was with Bill Russell. He was a proliferator small ball. was coaching Steph and coaching Dirk. And he helped bring Luke. He's cool with Luke and him too. Like, so he knew everybody. So shout out to him. Greg: Sure, a forward thinker for sure. He definitely Jax: Yeah. Greg: was definitely ahead of his time. Based off of like a part of the game that he was progressing. So, you know, rest in peace to him. You literally cannot tell the game of basketball without mentioning Don Nelson. And I didn't really know a lot about Don Nelson, so that's a guy, shout out to him. Yeah. And if we Jax: Would you rather, just real quick, he didn't win as a coach, but he won five rings as a player. Would you rather win as a player or as a coach? I know he wanted to win as a coach, because everybody, when you coach, you want to win. But you think it's of like, sadly, at least I got five rings. Greg: I mean when you get five rings, five rings is five rings, so it's like if I had if I had a choice, I think I would rather I'd rather be a coach. If we're talking about head coach, Jax: Yeah. Greg: I'd rather be a head coach than win a ring. I'd I'd rather I'd rather that. My one ring holds mad weight as a head coach, as Doc Rivers, bro. As Doc Rivers, my nigga. It like it holds real weight. Jax: You ain't lying about it. are not lying. It doesn't matter who your team was. even Steve Kirk has multiple rings, his rings still hold weight even though had the teams that he had that were stacked. Greg: Like it don't matter how good your team is. Like, even if your team is generational, then you are Jax: Yeah. Greg: the coach of said generational team and you will never not be brought up. Like, you're always gonna be brought up with that legendary team. Cause they're gonna be like, who's the head coach? yeah, it him. Even if you're Jax: Okay. Greg: not really all that good with your job, nigga, niggas know Jax: Thank Greg: who and I'm gonna say this. David Blatt never won. Niggas know who David Black is, bro. Just off of him being a Jax: That is very true. Greg: finals coach and niggas don't even deem him as like a good ass, like well, he got fired the the the the very next year, even though I still think he's like a good coach. Versus Jax: He was, David Black was a good coach. They just did not like him. He was a good coach. Greg: versus being a player, it would have to depend on like your hierarchy of like, okay, like what is your contribution to said team? Jax: Could like, could Don Nelson, averaged his stats were like 10 and five. Like, he like the season's answer to playoffs. Greg: Yeah, like at that point, yeah. Jax: So he was like a role player the whole time. Greg: It was a role player, but like I said, I wasn't watching segregation hoops like that. Like I would have to see like what kind of 10 points we talk about. We talking about like a a Alex Caruso 10, because that's different. I can take that. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I can I can take a Alex Caruso 10 because niggas gonna niggas in the community will never forget me. Niggas in OK C will never forget Alice Caruso, nigga. Like fuck out of here. Or the Lakers. That's a two time champion. You know what mean? So but I still went I still Jax: I would have attendance like 25, bro. Greg: That nigga be having the loudest 12 points I've ever seen in my life, bro. Jax: He all in the clutch, motherfucker, I was curious about. Greg: What's some good ass defense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You you you not lying. You not lying. yeah. What would you I mean, what would you rather go? Jax: Cause like, don't remember, I didn't see how long he played in the NBA, but like he coached for like 30 something years. So like, Greg: Fuck. Jax: with no ring, I think I'd want, I think I'd want that coach ring as well. Cause like. Greg: I I just feel like have more chances as a coach because you can coach longer than you can play. Yeah. Jax: Yes. Exactly. That's why it would piss me off that not getting a ring because I had all these and I'm the winningest coach of all when he retired, of course, he was the winningest coach of all time and still know I'd be pissed the fuck off. Greg: Yeah, like if I'm if I'm Mike Dantoni, I'm pissed. Like, I'm Jax: What? Greg: so pissed. Especially when you got some all-time greats on you. Yeah. Jax: Pissed off. Greg: Yeah. Damn. Would you rather be a mediocre coach or a mediocre player though? Like a mediocre coach that won a ring or a mediocre player that won a ring? Jax: Coach, like Greg: Mm. Jax: niggas get disrespectful about the players who are mediocre players. Niggas get disrespectful about them niggas, They get disrespectful about Greg: Ha ha ha! And don't hey, don't let you have a stand base. Don't let don't let you have a little fan base. Cause if they start roasting you too hard, and then all of a sudden it it's nothing but your family photos on the TL talking about this the man y'all talking down on. Why y'all got all my Jax: Leslie, are you Greg: information? I could still be a low-key nigga as a coach. That's true. I don't know who I don't know what David Blast's wife looked like. Jax: And it's hard to be like you can you can be a meteor coach and win but like have that ring and you be like you can't really call me yoga. Can you bitch actually I have a ring you don't so it's also like it's like the Trump. Greg: God, like that's so that is so true. And like I said, I don't know these niggas wives, bro. I know who Savannah James is though. And I don't think I would want that in my real life. Y'all shouldn't know my family like this. Y'all should never know Jax: I don't Greg: what my family is. Fuck no. Hell no. yeah. To to switch it up to some more somber news for this nigga. Russell Westbrook Jax: sorry. Greg: retired. Before we even go into Russell Westbrook, I want y'all to understand. before we go into, I want y'all niggas to understand. Two niggas run this account. you texting back and forth on the on the play for Keith Pod, talking about Russ. That was not me. Don't Jax: Hahaha Greg: be sending, don't be sending me text talking about, man, I didn't you was a Russ fan like that. I'm not. Like, he's cool, but like. Trust me, you was not talking to me on IG, my nigga. I'm I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't know, Jax, I don't know what the fuck you was talking. I don't know who you talking to. But them niggas. Not that you Jax: I didn't even say nothing crazy. I was just the... Greg: wasn't saying nothing crazy, but they was just like, like, since you were Russ Dan, and I was like, Russ Dan, I saw you was talking to Jax on the play for keeps pod account. That's and that's fine. shout out to Russ Russ retiring after eight. Jax: 18th season. Greg: Seasons. First of all, that was I'm gonna be honest with you, Jax. That felt Jax: Hey, wait, let me say it properly. Greg: My fault. Jax: After 18 seasons, he's retired. He's a legendary career, NBA top 75, 2017 league MVP, nine time All-Star, nine time All-NBA, US Olympic gold medalist in the all time record for triple doubles. I think it's like 209. I could be a little bit incorrect about that, like we had to get the stats. We had to talk about the stats. Because I have crazy things to say about Russell Westwood. Complimentary. Crazy things to say about Russell Westwood, bro. Greg: Hey, you remember when I don't know if you remember this, remember when Jax: What? Greg: Jalen Brown got traded to the 76ers and and they videotaped that little ass black boy that played for the for the Celtics? Thank you so much, Jalen Brown This how this nigga sound right now. You are my favorite player. Jax: I fucking... bro Russell like the whole reason I like the thunder is Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook and then Katie left and it was just a rest holding down the fort and that nigga did nothing except win the MVP average triple double like four straight seasons bro like Russell Westbrook was a man and he's like he retired and he retired I believe it was the Kings and the Wizards they were still like reaching out like hey you still trying to play and he was like you know what I'm not doing that with y'all No disrespect, even though he had to play with both of them niggas, like, no disrespect. He was like, yeah, no, I'm not trying to play with y'all niggas for real. And it's just like Russ, still had like, we talk about leave before the game leaves you. We talk about that a lot. And Russ still had Greg: Absolutely. Jax: a whole lot of game. I don't care what nobody say, cause it was just not last season, but the season before when he was with the Nuggets and he was still like, him and Yocuz were sort of going crazy. Like that was probably the best, not even, that was the best pass for Yocuz ever played with. was getting Yocuz's ball in an easy spot. I know, just feel like they like saw the game sort of similar, even though they obviously played different, even though they both are crazy with the triple doubles. But like, I think they just saw the game similar and I don't even, like Rust still has way more game. I just hate how, like this is like, I think he, saw like the play coming. He saw like this was a Carmella Anthony level of black balling finna go on. He was like, you know what? I'm really not trying to go out like that. No disrespect to Carmelo, but Mello know that the way they treated him going out was terrible. So, yes, I just don't think he can. Greg: Yeah. People don't talk about peop people don't talk about how K Carmelo kind of resurrected his career after that h Houston snip. He squee he squeezed a few more years out. Shadow shot a Jax: Same thing with Russ after the Lakers thing, bro. when he was with the Lakers, everyone was like, you suck. you didn't. They was calling him everything but a child of God. And then he went Greg: God. Jax: to the Nuggets and was cooking with them niggas. And he was like, baby Russ is still good. It's just the fucking Lakers. Greg: He even even in Sacra even when he was in Sacramento, there was like a couple stat lines and niggas like twenty three twenty three points, sixteen rebounds, like that nigga nigga still had some nigga had some games. Jax: And Russ, I remember texting you early in the season, like when Russ had like, I think he had the game race shot like five for five from three, like Russ was shooting this season too. I like, I ain't never seen anything that can shoot threes like that before, Greg: Yeah, he was playing against the fucking Rockets. I'm like, all right, gang. All right. Jax: Hahaha Greg: All right, brother. Shit. But yeah, when it when they come to Russ, I'll I'll I'll be honest with you. When it I feel like first he saw the writing on the wall because people kind of people don't people kind of forget. Last year was like the first year that nigga didn't have a media day. Nigga wasn't signed during Media Day yet. Jax: Yeah. Greg: So like he was already on the late bus. Of somebody not picking him up and and signing him. and then Sacramento, you know, finally, you know, did did his thing. also at first when he retired, I was like, damn, ain't nobody wanna pick this nigga up. And I think he had like two offers. I know one of those offers was was from like Washington, from the Wizards. Jax: Yeah, was it? Greg: And if this was the Wizards of last year, I would have understood it. But the Wizards would have been decent. They would have been kind of you know, whatever. I'm not saying that he would have got like mad playing time. But, you know, him there, Trey Young there, you got a number one overall pick, Anthony Davis, you know. Jax: I don't know what the Wizards got going on right now. I'm not even saying it's bad, but this Greg: A lot of stuff going on, but Jax: has a lot going on, so I don't think I would want Greg: for sure, like i it's a lot going on, but I think D C fucked with him because of his time there. 'Cause his his first stint in D C that nigga was still putting up triple doubles. Like that that shit was Jax: He got them, he willed them niggas to the playoffs, bro. Greg: Yeah, bro, he was he was solid. it d it doesn't it's not coincidental that that nigga was in California with the you know, with Sac with Sacramento. I do think he don't, you know, he's at that age where his kids are growing up and he wasn't trying to be across the country. during that time. Even Denver is kinda considered more of the west side. Jax: It's not west coast, but like I agree. Greg: Of of everything. But yeah, you know, it's it's it's more on the western, you're not on the east coast. You know what I mean? So it's it's it's definitely a easier flight. Of course, the Clippers and all that other stuff. So I feel like had the had they had one of those teams gave him an offer, he probably would have thought about it a little bit more. But based off of the tribute video that we're not gonna show you, but it's out there. It's a long ass video. That's Jax: It's looking long. My video started long so please. Greg: the reason why we didn't. Like This is not something that you call Michael B. Jordan of like the day before. Like that shit's been marinating. He I think he came up with that decision. He probably came up with that decision in June, probably knowing him. And he was just like, fuck it. I I I I would rather just go out on my own. And I was gonna make this a hot take, but we're already here. I already texted Jax about this. Y'all can't convince me that Chris Paul being done in the worst way possible last season did not contribute to this nigga retiring how he retired. one thing about Russ, that nigga is observant and he's looking around and he's like, hey, last year I didn't even get media day. if they can do Chris Paul like that, I can't be like I can't go out like Chris Paul. And that's no disrespect to CP because that wasn't even his fault. Jax: Yeah, they just... Dirty as hell. Dirty as fuck. Greg: But it's just like they did that nigga in the worst way. So he was just like, no, like if niggas not signing me by this date, I'ma just put it into my own hands. And I can I can respect that because so much like Chris Paul was robbed of so much love. Like, at least with Russ, and we'll have a conversation about the slander and the switch up about. How niggas talk about. will have that conversation. But at least we're having that conversation about Russ being showered with some type of love, something Chris Paul didn't get. We had to get like rushed shams reports about this nigga getting kicked off the team and this, that, and the third. Everything surrounding not the greatness of Chris Paul. It got overshadowed by the bullshit that was going on. So I think. Although I hate that he retired this year, I kinda respect that he put it into his own hands and said, Hey, I'm I'm good. We do have Beehan now. Like I I I can respect that. Jax: but just you were, sort of talked about it a little bit about how like the slander and the crazy switch up that everybody's doing now. like, this is a nigga. shit. Greg: Hey. Hey. Hey, this nigga about to get his bed. Jax: You Greg: Hey, hey, that nigga hey that nigga knocks you. Hey, he said, I'll knock all this shit over for us. Damn. Jax: My case? This is random, but my case, whole... And you heard that, that's my downstairs, that nigga's a bitch, bro. I don't know who that nigga is, that nigga's a bitch, bro. Cause like nigga, I'll just like, like I drop my phone once, I'm just like boom, boom, boom. Like nigga, like what else that nigga Greg: That's wild. Jax: do? Or like sometimes if I walk, that nigga will boom, boom. And I'm like, nigga, you look at him come downstairs and like kick your fucking door in, bitch. But like that's neither here nor there. But what was I saying? Greg: Gotta call that nigga slurs, bro. Jax: Well, nigga, bitch ass nigga or nigga, I don't know who the fuck it is. Probably a nigga, but still. What was I gonna say? Greg: Even if she even if she is a woman, that's a nigga. Jax: And I've been here, like, and this is the first neighbor that I, I've been here two years. This is the first time, this is my first neighbor who's been a dickhead like this, Cause like the first nigga, and then the first year I was here, my dad was here with me. So it was louder cause more niggas in here. But that's neither here nor there. But, Greg: Crazy. Jax: before my phone dropped, what was I going to say? yeah. We were talking about the slander. what the hell did I say? yeah. And Greg, you brought up like the slander and stuff that people who, And the slander like the crazy switch up people are having now, cause now everybody love it. Like y'all was, I was there. I seen it on social media. I seen all you niggas hate on Russ. Russ is the nigga with, he's the point guard with like first in points, first three balance, first to triple doubles, fourth and the sixth. And y'all niggas trying to act like he's ass bro. Like, especially during that Lakers stint, that was really the crazy. don't, maybe it's cause it was like a mixture of like, cause Lakers fans respectfully are crazy. And then you combine that with Greg: They are. Jax: LeBron and then just got a whole, just super duper hectic. But it's just like the way people were acting like he's was just the worst thing ever. And the fact that they're acting like that and now they're just showering him with all this love and praise. It's like, why didn't you do this when he was with the Lakers? Cause he was not even bad with the Lakers. Matter of fact, when he was with the Lakers, I think that was, cause every time he's played with a superstar, he's helped that superstar get their most. Either most points per game or like their second most points per game. Cause like when he was with the Lakers, LeBron averaged 30 points. That was the, in LeBron was, that was 2022. So LeBron was however fucking old, like 37ish something like. Greg: Probably thirty yeah, probably thirty seven, thirty eight. Probably so. Jax: Yeah, so he helped a 37 year old nigga average 30 points a game. When he was with KD, KD averaged his highest points a game. Same when he was with Bradley Beal. Like Russ, he is the, I wouldn't say he's the perfect point guard, I do, like I've said this before, think Chris Paul is the perfect point guard. But like, if you need a point guard, that's what Russ is. He will help your team and he'll take all the slander, all this, all of that, and not even say a single word. He'd just go out and hoop. And that's the thing that like, you have to love the most about Russ, because That is no matter what he's like, he's a nigga that like, what would you say? Like he just like, don't go for no bullshit. Like that's the type of nigga he is. Like he don't go for shit. also like he's, I can know he's a nigga that's just never scared. Whether it be to take this shot, he'll take that. Literally. Literally. Greg: He go, he go to war. He go to war about anybody. Anybody that got the same jersey as him, he go to war for. I never forget my God. is that? Was that yeah. That was when he was with the Lakers in Braun. You remember that year where what that nigga name is? Stewart. I forgot his name. Jax: yeah. yeah. I said it's Stewart. We're chasing bronze. Greg: That nigga got the bleeding and he was charging at LeBron. Guess who was front lines with his hands up, nigga? It was Russ. Jax: Yes. Greg: That nigga Russ was ready for whatever. Like, Jax: at all. Greg: it didn't matter what the fuck it was, bro. Like, that was one thing you could never say, bro. And in the midst of everybody that fucking gambles, in the midst of everybody that be taking plays off, in the midst of everybody that be on bullshit and lazy. For every Ben Simmons, there was a fucking Russell Westbrook that never cheated the game, bro. That nigga went one speed 100 from start to finish. One of the most that nigga Jax: every single time. Greg: had the most stamina on any roster that he was on, bro. Never got tired. Jax: Ever! Ever! Greg: Nigga was a fucking like horse in a human body. I've never seen no shit like this. Jax: He had the most stamina while also being the most athletic person on the court at all times, bro. it's... Greg: While still just jumping up and down and and yelling and shit, still got energy to like cuss a nigga out. It was some shit that I've never just I've never you will never see a nigga like Russ ever. Jax: He's he's the only nigga in the NBA I truly think that can just be like, know what? I want to have a 2020 game and then boom he goes and gets 20 points 20 rebounds in 20 assists and he's a six foot three point guard we will never you nobody will ever see anything like Russell Westbrook ever again because I don't think they make humans like that anymore. I think he was a one Greg: They don't make it. And not and not to shift it. And not and not to shift it. Like not to shift it off of Russ. But I just think it's crazy that like the big since we're talking about the Russ lander, I just think it's crazy how OKC's big three. All got slander in some type of way. Like the niggas got shitted on in some type of way. And then they started getting some love on the back end of their careers. And we'll probably see maybe a little bit more with KD and Harden when they finally retire, depending on how they leave out. But I just always, Jax: Yeah, it's gonna be about the same. Greg: I just always thought, I've always thought of it. I was like, damn, like the top the big three of of niggas that niggas was rooted for as a young squad, the like Defeat LeBron at some point in the peak, at the peak of everyone's powers, at the peak of Russ's powers, at the peak of Harden and KD, them niggas was getting shitted on. Jax: Yeah. Greg: It was getting shitted on. I've never seen a big three scrutinized quite like that one. that's crazy. Jax: Actually, you saying that reminds me, because I meant to bring this point up. Russ was so fucking good that analytics, they had to change the, what was it? I think the box plus minus. I don't really even understand all that analytics shit, but I know like Greg: Yeah. Jax: they had Russ as like the highest box plus minus player ever because he kept getting triple doubles. They hated on Russ so much. They were like, you know what? This can't be right. So they had to change the mathematical formula to bump him down. This is actually factually happened, bro. They changed analytics because Russell Westbrook was so good, no matter, Russell Westbrook is a Greg: It's such a evil world that we're in, bro. Jax: top five point guard of all time. Greg: yeah, no question. No question. I I mean Jax: No questions about it. Greg: because you put 'cause you wa obviously you got Steph Magic Steph Magic and Paul Chris Paul depending on like I don't care about the order, but they're in that three and Jax: Yeah, Greg: then Jax: I say I go Steph, Magic. I want to put Chris Paul, but I have to put Isaiah Thomas just because it's Isaiah. I mean, I don't have to, but like I'm going to, Greg: You have to? Jax: but I really, I really want to put Chris Paul, but I'm put Isaiah Thomas just cause he got the rings and all that. So I go Steph, Magic, Isaiah Thomas, Chris Paul, then Russ. Cause I think Russ Greg: Okay. Jax: is, there's no other point, like there's no other point guard that's better than Russ. Greg: Bro, they gonna look at Russ's stat lines like from ten years from now and be like, Damn, this was a super nigga. Like, what the fuck? Bro, I f his hot Jax: He's six three like yes, he did. Yes, he fucks. Greg: Bro, his stat lines and highlights, he's gonna be one of the very few players where his shit is gonna age like timelessly. Like Jax: They're gonna say he's Michael Jordan. Greg: They're gonna treat this shit like niggas treat Will with his fucking numbers. And it's gonna be like, my God, like this nigga was a a freak of nature. What the fuck? He was doing this in the LeBron era? Yes, nigga. Yes, he was. All because all because a nigga left his team, nigga. He turned up because a nigga left his team. That's how, that's how it was. That was Jax: Yeah. Greg: so crazy, bro. man. Shout out to Russ for having such a a great career. Did you see that bullshit that Ice Cube sent sent out? Jax: Do I want to speak to those? Greg: He said he given Russ he he he said he see he said he given Russell Westburg a week before he he sent him that big three invite. It's like pr please stop. Jax: Ice Cube stop. Okay, let's move on. wanna. Shut up Ice Greg: Ha ha ha. Jax: Cube, bro. I don't even. Be so fucking cool, bro. Greg: Like bro. That shit sound like that shit Jax: That is Russell West. Stop it. Greg: sound like that sound like that one power scene when that nigga's like, Tasha please. I just lost the love of my life. Please. You pissing me off right now. shit. Jax: Ice Cube, now is not the time. And Russ is never playing in the big three. Let's stop it. Let's end it right there. Greg: Let's cut that shit out. This is not Royce White, nigga. Please have some decorum, nigga, while I grieve. Please. Ain't been a Jax: in this crazy. Greg: full forty-eight hours. Damn. But Yeah. From one former Laker to another former Laker. We moved Are we talking about the Lakers? Okay. Yeah. From one former Jax: Yeah. Greg: Laker to another, another Laker transaction. The Lakers have been sold again for twelve point five billion, to be exact. it was originally the owner of what, Walter Davis, if I'm not mistaken. Jax: Now, Walter, no, Greg: Well that was the Jax: Mark, is it Mark Walter? Greg: Am I tripped? I wanna get his name right actually. What's his nigga name? Jax: I think it's my water. Greg: It might be. Mark Mark Walter. I don't know what the fuck I'm getting Davis. Jax: Yyyyy Greg: Mark Mark Walter was the the previous owner who was now under federal investigation for things that only Lord Jax: Real fast, I looked at Mark Walters picture, white people age horribly. White people age, like he's 66, but like he looks older than 66. Or maybe it's the wicked thing, he Greg: No, I'm saying like white people are ugly. White people look ugly as fuck. Jax: looks older than 66. Like 66 is old, but he looks like he's like 80 something. Greg: I'm not gonna lie to you. There are two di there are two types of white people that I don't like looking at. Old white people and white people that are fresh out of water. I hate the look of both of those things. Those are very niche things. I hate it. Jax: The first time it watered, like, I've never even considered that. Greg: Like getting out of like a white person getting out of a pool in the like Jax: You Greg: is so like I can't look at that shit, bro. Jax: I'd never even, granted I don't be at pools for real, but I'd never even noticed. But, Greg: It looks fucking terrible. It look like hot dog coming out of hot dog water, nigga. I don't like it's just Jax: So. Greg: that shit look like hot Jax: Yeah. Greg: dog water, bro. Like it just I don't it's hard for me to explain, bro. But I pray you don't have to see no stupid shit like that. I pray that you never see a white person get out the shower, get out of a tub, get out of a pool, get out of a jacuzzi. I don't wish that on nobody that I fuck with. Not to sidetrack it, but that shit really that shit really struck a nerve with me, nigga. That shit really fucked me up. I saw that shit last Jax: you Greg: week and I still can't recover. But enough about that. Let's get back into that that nigga Mark Mark Walter. Mark Walter was the previous owner. who had just got the team from Genie Bus, I think a year ago. Has it has it been it? I don't even think it's been a year. Since Jax: Yeah, or no, it's at 18 months. Or he's control twice Greg: Or yeah, a year a year is some change. Jax: in less than 18 months, nevermind. But yeah, I don't think he had it the full year. I don't think it's been a calendar year. Greg: Yeah, it hasn't ha hasn't had it a full calendar year yet. even though Jeannie Buzz still has like a minority stake in there, like seventeen percent. she has to have that for her to be like she's like cause she's still like technically like the governor of of shit, and she still goes to these meetings and shit. So she's a part of that. But yeah, it got sold by Bob Iger and Josh Kushner. Jax: I got sold to a bar biker in... Greg: Yeah, it got sold to, yeah, Mark sold it to Bob Iger and Josh Kushner. Now, for people that don't know who these people are, Josh Kushner was just a part of whatever the FIFA deal was supposed to be. He was a part of that. That ultimately fell through. On top of him on top of his brother or his family still having like some political ties to like the Trump family. Jax: No, because not some people, his brother Jared Kushner is Donald Trump's son-in-law. Greg: Yeah, it is. Which is cra which Jax: So that is like. Greg: is crazy because when when you're doing the research and stuff, it's like and I take everything with a grain of salt, but apparently Josh is like a staunch a staunch Democrat. But at the end of the day, like you're a white man to me. Like I I don't I don't buy stalking you saying, my god, like he's a he's a he's a Democrat. Jax: When y'all are making money crazy like that and your literal brother is the son-in-law of Donald Trump, no, I don't care what you say about being a demon. You're not a demon to nobody. Greg: Yeah. Jax: Your political party is capitalism. Your political party is billionaire, but you don't care about none of this shit. Greg: We say this all the time, there is no such thing as a good billionaire, nigga. every billionaire is terrible. There's no such thing as a good billionaire. Jax: Except for LeBron James. But other than that. Other than that. Greg: All right, nigga. Okay. If that's the sword you wanna die on, nigga. Jax: We're gonna find out some crazy stuff to stay healthy. Greg: Hey, they finna have a Nike documentary real soon for this nigga. Jax: He's experimenting on humans. Greg: All of a sudden Yeah, it it can go real crazy with that nigga. And as far as that, and on Bob Iger's side, Bob Iger, the former CEO of Disney. Form Jax: I'm going to Greg: no. He gave up his CEO last year to another guy. I forgot his name. But he gave that up because he wanted to well at the time. Niggas didn't know. But this nigga wanted to own a team. it he didn't he had no clue it was it was gonna be the Lakers. But originally Bob Iger and Josh Kushner were looking into buying the expansion team that was gonna be in Las Vegas for seven point five billion dollars. That's where they were going. And it wasn't until a little birdie told them niggas, hey, that nigga Mark might be in the market. To getting rid of the Lakers, because that nigga is $16 billion investigated. I don't know if he's in a hole, but $16 billion is being investigated by that nigga Mark. So them niggas, they said in a matter of three days, got this deal done and offered that nigga $12.5 billion. They said this is one of the fastest transactions, even though it's not been, you know, officially completed. But this is one of the fastest. like transactions when it comes to a team that's ever happened. At least in the NBA. I can't I can't speak for other things. that was crazy. And on top of that, I know it's gonna get approved because I did not realize and understand just how connected Bob Iger and Adam Silver were. I did not know them niggas was that locked in. Did not know did not know that that Adam Silver Introduce Bob Iger to his now wife. Did not know. Did not know that them niggas used to go on vacation together. they probably still go on vacations together. They like they they are, when I tell you, they are locked in, they are like locked in. So this this deal is gonna get approved. Jax: The relationship you're describing sounds very similar to the relationship another politician and another rich white man who went on vacations had, but I'm not going to make that comparison. But this whole thing. Greg: You know, me per you know, me you know, me personally, it was I kinda I was kinda looking at it like a an Oprah and Gail King situation. That that was kinda out. But, you know, this there's this there's plenty of examples. But yeah, I mean, them niggas have been doing business together. This this is why when when the CEO stuff was happening last year, Adam Silver's name just kept getting popped up. It's like, okay, like this could be like as a c as a candidate as like CEO. Jax: do remember that. Greg: Yeah, it's because them niggas are so locked in. They are like ve Jax: I didn't realize that. Greg: they were extremely locked. They're still extremely locked in. We don't have the NBA bubble without their relationship. Because Bob Bob Iger opens up Disney World so that they can play the basketball Jax: Damn! Greg: games. They've been locked in for 30 plus years. and I didn't realize how crazy their relationship was. but it is deeper than just business. So when they when that nigga has the Lakers now, it's like, okay. And shit, shit can kind of get. It can get interesting. because Adam Silver has not been an ethical nigga. I'm gonna be honest with you. He tried to act like he's ethical. He tried to make it seem like he played by the rules, but Kawhi Leonard still has not been sentenced yet. Nigga, there would there have still not been cases closed under this nigga's watch. How ethical is this nigga for real? He Jax: There's nothing ethical about this entire situation, honestly, from like the sale, because yes, the sale is reportedly $12.5 billion. But Greg: Billion. Yeah. Yeah. Jax: the thing is, Bob Iger and Josh Cushman, they don't even have $12.5 billion between them. They don't have that kind of money. So how are they going to get them? How are they going to get this approved? How are they going to get the money? But they're going to get the money. They're going to get all this stuff approved. Because one, like you said, Adam Silver and Bob Iger are best friends. Two, because Kushner and Donald Trump are basically fucking related. So that's also going to get approved. And then this whole thing happened this fast because Mark Walters is under FBI investigation in like. Greg: Yeah, they sees that nigga's laptop and phone. Like they've already like they that nigga's deep in it. Jax: Like that's why he had to sell it so quickly. He's trying to like get off this shit. Like, and of course he sells it to the brother of Donald Trump's son-in-law. Like, what are we talking about? So nothing about this. Greg: Keep in mind, keep in mind, Mark Walter also owns the Dodgers. Jax: Yeah. Greg: now he's adamant on saying, hey, I'm not giving them niggas up. And the way the Dodgers is trending, I don't blame him for trying to hold on to that shit Jax: Thank Greg: for as long as possible. because it does make sense that, you know, trying to sell the Lakers is crazy because that's a historical franchise. But from a business perspective, when you don't have any options and on top of that, you still. Even in even in turmoil, this nigga made a profit off of Jax: Two billion. See. Greg: He he like he made a two billion profit and he didn't even have it for a full year. Like crazy. So it it it'll it'll be interesting what the Dodgers look like moving forward, depending on what this Mark this this this federal investigation, this FBI shit like. man, it's it we're far from over when it comes to shit like that. But there's a lot of people that are kind of afraid of the, you know, Bob Iger is very, you know, for lack of a better term, Disney. nigga loves to raise prices and shit. So I do think like Lakers fans are like, yo, shit already expensive when it comes to the Lakers. I'm scared they're gonna try to get their money back in blood by. Jacking the shit out this parking, jacking the shit out these ticket prices, in in a way that allows the the city to, you know, recoup the funds of twelve point five billion dollars, honestly. yeah, I'm s going what is what's what would that be like? Like six, six and some change, six billion and some change each. Are they both going in on it? Well, yeah. Give or take. For the ownership of the Lakers. Jax: or you're talking about Tiger and Kristen, they don't have the money. That's the thing, they don't have the money even if they are going on it, bro. They do not have the money. It's going to get approved. The money's gonna magically appear somehow, but they don't even have this money for it. These niggas are not billionaires. So I don't know, this whole shit is, this whole shit is horrible. Greg: I don't know. I thought I thought I was a billionaire. Jax: And then Pablo Torre is probably gonna investigate it, but since these niggas are with the government, they're gonna kill that nigga. So it was nice knowing Pablo Torre. Greg: And yeah, you see, you see, Steve, Steve Ballmer still got a heart. That's the problem. These niggas gonna kill him. These niggas gonna Jax: Yeah. Greg: kill John Pablo, nigga. Steve Ballmer still he he still like he's still trying to do it ethically. Nah, nah, nah. Like, he getting on my nerves, but chill. You got Trump under your under your fingernail, nigga? Jax: Yeah, no, they're going to... Pablo, I like you, Pablo. They're going to kill you. I'm so sorry. Greg: They're going to they are going to neutralize the threat, nigga. Jax: You make a single episode. It don't matter how, you can make a YouTube short about that bitch. They're going to murder you. Don't do it, don't do it. Greg: Pablo, plea. Pablo, please. Jax: you Greg: You're not safe. You're not safe at all. But yeah, I don't I don't I don't know. I don't know. And and I feel like they're gonna keep this for a long time. And I and I feel like at some point they're gonna move Genie Bus out the way. Now I know in the contract, in the last contract, when Genie Bus sold majority, there was a thing in in their contract. That Genie Bus had to stay the governor for at least five more years. And apparently Bob Iger and them, they have no choice but to like accept that Jax: That's a Mark Cuban thought and they told that nigga to kick rocks. Greg: Well, it's one of those things where it's just kind of like because of the Mark Walter shit, like the 17% stake that she has, it can't be touched. Like it you can't you can't fuck with it for the next at least five years. Now, after that five years is over, they can get her to fuck up out of there if they want to. And that's just very it that that just kind of depends on. Yeah, Jax: They will. They will. Don't worry about that. They will. Greg: I mean, just like any new regime, like they're gonna always wanna put their guys. Or or they're whoever they want to put in there. But yeah, at least for five years, Jeannie Bus still got some kind of say. Now they have the ultimate say on like what they can do, but they just don't have enough power to get up get her up out of there. Not right now. And I think that is a saving grace for like the Lakers organization in general. It's like, okay, well, Jeannie still got she still got some power. She still goes to all like the, you know, the NBA owner, governor meetings. She is the representation. She is Jeannie Bus. That bus name does mean something. And and whether people like it or not, they're gonna have to respectfully if they wanna move out the way, they're gonna have to respectfully do it. You not you're not finna just fuck Jeannie Bus over as a white woman and think there's not gonna be any pushback from that. I'm just Jax: If it's a white man doing the fucking over, they're going to fuck her They're going to fuck her over and nothing bad. Greg: no, no, no. I'm not saying that you can't fuck her over. But what I am saying is, somebody, somebody gonna have to take a fall for that. If it if it goes like when they traded Luca, hey, somebody gotta take a fall for that. Some some. Okay. Jax: That was Nico this season. And Nico's black. And Nico's black, so of course they throw him under the bus. Greg: Okay, of course they'll yeah. They'll they'll find the nigga. Somebody gonna have if they fuck Jeannie Buzz over, she they not Jeannie Buzz not getting fucked over alone. I'll say it like that. She still got power. Jax: I don't know if I agree with that, but man, we'll see. Greg: Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully nothing happens. You know what I mean? Hopefully we just watch basketball. Hopefully this story isn't bigger than a Luca Donch's triple double. That's what I'm praying for. Jax: But we both know that won't happen. Greg: God damn. Jax: but let's go ahead and get to our last, this talk man, bro. Just get off Jaden Daniels' dick, bro. That's it, man. Greg: Ayy Jax: Golly. This whole thing. I was, I'd be up late at night. So I was up when this report dropped. This dropped at like, cause this is a 10, exactly, Greg: wow. Nigga, you was up late then, nigga. What the fuck? Go to bed. Jax: this is a 10 57, but like the actual report came out at like 1 a.m. or something crazy like that. anyways, Greg: Yeah. Jax: an attorney representing commander's quarterback, Jaden Daniels, informed LSU. that he can no longer, excuse me, use his name, image, and likeness and said that he felt profoundly disrespected after LSU allowed cornerback DJ Pickett to wear his number five jersey. Now, a little bit of a backstory. They say the center of the dispute is like, I just said, DJ Pickett. Who is Loke? Not even Loke, he's cold. He's going like, I'm. think he's a sophomore this season, but whenever he's draft eligible, he's going in the first round because he's a cold corner. And he's like six to five, which is crazy, neither here nor there. Greg: That is great. Jax: But they say that that's at the center of the issue that he didn't want anybody wearing his jersey after he got the Heisman and he went and became the second overall draft pick. But Brian Kelly, was LSU's former coach, he promised Pickett that he could wear the number. But then he asked Jaden Daniels, and Jaden was like, no, I don't think you should let him do that. So he didn't give him the number. But now Brian Kelly's fired, now Lane Kiffin's the head coach, and Lane Kiffin doesn't care about a goddamn thing from what anybody says. So he's like, of course you can wear the fucking number. I'm Lane Kiffin, you can do whatever. And because of that, like initially Jaden and LSU, had an agreement within his contract from when he came to LSU that LSU would be permitted to use his name, image, and likeness for 180 days beyond his final game at the college. you know. Since he liked LSU and they was still honoring his request about the number, he said, you know, I'm gonna just let it ride. I can use my shit for whatever. I don't really give a fuck. But now since y'all are letting some other person use the name after you said you, or use my number after you said you wouldn't, I don't want you guys putting me any of your commercials or any of your promotional stuff or anything like that anymore. And everybody's mad at Jay Daniels. I don't get it. I don't get it. Greg: yeah. Jax: Like, that's why they mad. He didn't do anything wrong. They did. They lied. Like, I don't, what did he do wrong? Greg: What was the n who who was the coach that that went out or got fired? What was it? Mike? What's the name? Jax: Brian Kelly. Greg: Brian Kelly. First of all, the way Brian Kelly has been avoiding accountability in this whole situation, that is the first sandwich maker. You first agreed to a recruit. First of all, recruit niggas coaches, they they will be they be lying. With that's not Jax: this. Greg: a secret. But To lie about this in particular. Why why? What was the point? What was the point of lying about that? You should have just granted, I get it, he's cold. But him not wearing number five. Maybe I'm just not in these recruiting stages. Maybe I just don't get it. Damn, a number really gonna keep me from going from one place to another? I feel like if they really Jax: It will. Greg: it will, I get it to a degree, but man. Jax: But that's me just here for another million dollars. Greg: Yeah, I'm just like, what what a what a number can't do? Which number do you want? Number five or five extra more mil, nigga? Like come on. Like, like I know you're not that invested in this number. Cause as soon as you get to the league, if you go to the wrong team, you not getting that number. Say his number was 15. You think he getting that shit in in Kansas City, nigga? No, not, nigga. So you gonna have to learn how to adjust anyway. And that's when more money come out the way. But I I think there was a lot of like misinformation that was coming out at first. Because a lot of it was making it seem like Jaden Daniels like bringing up Joe Burrow and all this other stuff, making it like it's like Jax: Yeah. Greg: a real comparison thing. And it's not really a comparison thing. It's more about, hey, Y'all not treating me with any kind of respect. Y'all not even giving a nigga a little heads up call. I'm just learning like everybody else. Like I get the and I get the regime of like Lane Kiff and saying, hey, I'm doing whatever I can do to to keep this nigga on my team. I just got here. I'm trying to keep this nigga. not trying to ruffle no fucking feathers. I don't know shit about what was promised before. This is my shit now. And number five is yours, my nigga. I don't I I don't know what to tell you. And on Jaden Daniels side, I can't understand saying, hey. Yeah, get all this NIO sh get it off. I think where Jaden fell short, I think he should have just committed to the 180 days. Don't even move it. Just keep it to where it was. Just keep that 180 day thing because niggas and people, regimes change all the time. What you've committed to and all this other stuff, and you love the university, that's cool and all until they do some fucked up shit. Just Do your time and and and and not let it get murky because now it's bleeding in to like the the the season. Like now we're talking about this instead of like what your upcoming season's about to be. And then on the sophomore side, on his side, it's like damn. Jax: I don't think he's fucking wrong in this situation. just, niggas just gave him a number. like, I want the five. I don't know. Greg: No, but no, I'm not I'm not I'm I'm not saying I'm not saying that he doing anything wrong, but when something like this happens, naturally the reaction is all this hoopla about a fucking number, nigga, you better be you better be cold. Like you better be nice. And I'm not saying I'm not saying you need to win a Heisman because I know how difficult it is for a defensive player to even do some shit like that. But don't be buns, nigga. Don't be having like no good season last year, but then after all this hoopla, now your game is declining or with some other shit like make make us make us respect Jax: He can't have a great name. Greg: I'm gonna say make make make us respect what what's going on here but I will but it it did make me pose a question that a lot of people are either having or are so against I don't know it's it's been like a fifty fifty toss up and I wanted to know how you felt. I mean how do you feel about retired numbers in general? In college. Jax: I'm not mad. Greg: In college football. Jax: I don't really care. If you want, like if you say you're gonna retire it, then retire it. Granted, like LSU hasn't officially retired Jayden Daniel's number, obviously, Greg: Anybody's judging. Jax: because they redid it. And then people brought in Joe Burrow, they haven't officially retired his as well. like, I don't, like if you want to retire Greg: Nobody's touching that number, bro. Jax: a number, retire it. I don't really have a, I don't have a problem with it. Greg: Yeah, I I mean I just think when it comes to Heisman trophy winners, I don't think it's crazy for a Heisman trophy winners trophy d like number to get retired. Jax: It's like, you, if you say you're not going to issue it out for, to nobody, then like just don't issue it out. Especially if it's like, really, cause when he last played at LSU, I don't need to, these seasons run together. Something like, don't know, they, like, Greg: Twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty four I think or twenty twenty Yeah, something like that. Jax: seasons run together, but like so soon is crazy. Like maybe like five years later than cool. I don't really care about Jane Daniels, but like so fast is crazy. Especially if you Greg: I just don't like I Jax: promise that you wouldn't get a number of nobody else. Greg: Honestly, me personally, I feel like people should retire numbers. Just to get this bullshit out the way. I I don't like a unofficial retirement. Cause it's too murky for niggas to just not abide by the rules. Because somebody can always come into your place and say, Okay, well that that's how he felt. This is not how I do it in my program. Versus a number that's already in a motherfucking rafters. And Jax: I was already opening the rock and you can't get that reason out. Greg: Yeah, and a nigga come out here and say, Hey, I wanna wear number five. All I gotta do is point up. We're not taking it's already up here. We don't ha no. And yeah, like when it comes to like the Cam Newton's of the world and whatever, like, there's just certain things that just should just already be in the Raptors. Like if you if it's in the Raptors, even the next regime can say, Hey, okay, It's just already up here. We can now we can go call him and say, hey, can he? Can we take it down for this nigga? And we can Jax: No, thank you. Greg: say no and hang up, but it's it forces you to have that conversation of asking, said player, hey, like, we're thinking about giving this number to him. How do you feel about that? Like, so yeah, that's that's that's how I feel. I feel like it would clear up all this extra bullshit and hooplaw. Like, this is not a conversation. If we would have did that. Well honestly, it still would have been a conversation because nobody's retiring somebody somebody's number that goddamn quick anyway, to your point. So two Jax: Yeah. Greg: years, un unless you're doing some Cam Newton shit. Jax: If if he had like Jane Dennis had the grace of anyone that I like, ness not taking it from not taking anything Greg: Right. Jax: from him at all. But like Cam Noon was just different. Respect w all due respect Cam Noon is different. Greg: Yeah, respect respectfully. And on top of that, and for niggas that are afraid that like too many numbers would get retired, I'm only talking about Heisman trophy winners. There's not a school that's just loaded up on Heisman trophy winners to the point where they would be fishing for numbers like it's the fucking Boston Celtics. The LSU only got three niggas. Jax: Bama? How many Bama got? Bam got a lot. Greg: Bama Bama got some Bama got some people, but It ain't it ain't when I'm like when we talk about this certain situation, there's only maybe one or two schools max that have that kind of problem. Where it's like, my God, like what what is my running back gonna wear? What jersey is my running back gonna wear, nigga? It's just b it's just Bama. Like Jax: Yeah, I think I mean I think it's the only one screen. I think it might be Bam. I'm trying to think who else got like mad Ivy. Greg: it's nobody else, nigga. Like if Greg Ward would have won a Heisman for U of H. Nigga retire his jersey. Nigga retire his fucking jersey. Like who I don't care. The hell. Jax: Yeah. Greg: But that's interesting. I hope this shit gets resolved. Do you have any input on people saying that his mama is is too much into his business? You need to calm this shit down. Jax: No. His mom wasn't mentioned in any of the anything. Not in the ESPN article, not any of the athletic articles, not any of the Yahoo. Like, why are niggas just cause niggas don't like his mom and just cause his mom is his age, people like, mom's too involved. Like, her name wasn't involved in any of this shit, bro. Like, shut up. Leave her alone, bro. Greg: Because it because it's respectful, and I say this respectfully, it's because his mom is too fine. That's all it is. That's literally all it is. Look, it's like, and I don't and I don't want to compare other Jax: Yeah, honestly, yeah. People hate bad bitches, bro. People which is insane to people. Greg: I don't want to compare other people's mamas, because that's that's that's crazy. I'm not trying to do that. But there's certain people that's like in the same position as Jaden Daniels' mom, and They don't get talked like this. Like they they don't there's not a discourse conversation about this. Like it's very normal. Like people's moms have been athletes' managers since the test of time. This is not something new. it's just because she's Jax: His mom is very like or she's a little bit more out in public than other mom agents, I feel like. Not saying that's a bad thing or whatever, but like Greg: Yeah. Jax: she's more like you you you see her around more. But like I said, not saying that's a bad thing. Greg: Like a like like a like a Tasha Mack kind of kind of out in the open. Jax: She She not that bad. She not that bad. Cause tossing back was crazy. Greg: Nah, Tasha was cra hey, Tasha was Hey, Tasha was going crazy. Jax: That's not good. Greg: Damn I gotta re I gotta I gotta rewatch that show. That's fucking nuts. Jax: Yeah. Greg: but yeah, I I I do think that that's about it. I think it is about that time. Good. I hate that my soundboards take a favor. Jax, what is your hot take of the week? Jax: Y'all get a week removed from the finale, so it's not any spoilers or anything like that. But I watched Raising Kane and seen every single episode, all five seasons. I think I can officially say that what's his last name? What's Kane's last name? Stark? The Stark family? Or Greg: Think so. Jax: the Thomas family, rather. Yeah. The Thomas family is the worst TV family in the history of TV Greg: Yeah. Jax: families. Every single person with that. with their blood in them is a horrible human being. Canaan's terrible. His mom is terrible. Both his uncles well, one of his uncles isn't that bad. But he died. well died. But still, his uncle's great. His cousin's crazy. This whole his son, his future son is not that bad, but fifty cent kills him in power. But it's just the whole show is just the whole family rather is just absolutely terrible. They have pretty much no redeeming qualities. There are criminals. I don't even know. They're just terri they're just horrible peop. They're just all of them terrible people, like Like no no redeeming qualities. They're all just terrible people. And it sucks because like through the course of the five seasons, you can see them slowly and slowly getting worse and worse, but it's just like damn to really witness. But no, they're the worst TV family in the history of T V families. And and if I raising Canaan is like very I they say it's like very, very, very loosely based off of Fifty Cents childhood. And if fifty cents childhood is even like a sliver of what Canaan went through in that show, then I understand. Why fifty cent is exactly the way he is. That it makes absolutely perfect sense. But yeah, that's my hot take. The start or the family raised in Kenya's the worst family in T V history. Greg: I'm be honest with you. That being said, it ain't nobody doing it better than Ghost Man. Jax: Hmm. Greg: You can say all that. I'm I don't I don't know a nigga doing it better than Ghost. That nigga that nigga got Jax: Now ghost was Greg: so many one-liners, so many quotables. my Jax: Ghost is po Greg: god. Jax: I've said it before, but power is like the best worst TV show. Or really the worst Greg: It's like Jax: TV show. It's either it's not I'd say it's the best worst, because it's terrible TV show, but it's still such a good show. But it's horrible. Greg: It's like it's like when I I feel like Is it it's gonna sound crazy when I say it? It feels like when power in that franchise feels like when Steph was putting up numbers in the LeBron era. You know what I mean? Like when power was like when power first came out, that Jax: Okay. Greg: shit was hooping in the Tyler Perry era, the Tyler Perry era, like when it comes to bad. Shit on the fucking television screen. And like it just elevated this game and like it just like surpassed certain things and like it's transcended the game. And niggas wanted to like try to copy off it. Like nobody can really do it like Steph. Just like nobody can really do it like power. Like power just has so many layers to it. Jax: Yeah. Greg: and all these goddamn books. I still haven't completed all these goddamn chapters and power books and all this other shit. Jax: It's too many. And then they're gonna make another one and it's like No, they're making two more. And it's like you can stop. I'm a I'm a wallet because Greg: Yeah, and it's just like, God damn. Jax: I'm a victim. Like they've got me unfortunately. They need to stop. Greg: Yeah, like at some point lead a game. Lead a game before the game leaves you, type shit. But it's just like, man, like, this really the Steph Curry of bad movies or are just bad shows. It outlasted Empire. It outlasted all these other shows. Even when, even even when Snowfall had his run, at some point Snowfall ended. And these niggas are still there. It was never a Jax: And snowfall was never bad, so snowfall is never Greg: bad show. It was quality. But they was still in the era though, you know what I mean? That that lore of like twenty fourteen Jax: Yeah. Yeah. Power. Greg: to like now Jax: Power outlasted all of It's crazy. But Greg: Power outlasted. Cause niggas, niggas had a little resurgence in the 2020. Like in during COVID, everybody got their everybody got their shit off because everybody was inside. Niggas couldn't go outside for real. So niggas was watching shit that they ain't had no business watching. If they had some real like hobbies and shit. But power stood the test of time. And I have to respect it. I have to respect. I have to respect that, man. That's that's a god take. That's a god take. my hot take is that it really shouldn't be a hot take, but if you can afford two hundred dollar camps, if you if you can afford for your son to have that James Harden camp that Moses Malone Jr. was talking about, and by all this bullshit, all these cleats, all this whatever, five hundred dollars here, seven hundred dollars here, two hundred dollars here, you have enough money to pour into your child's education and spend seventy-five dollars to go to a high level tutor. You can spend a hundred dollars to like make sure that like their academics is on a level. Every time somebody talks about extra money that needs to go into like school or like if their kids are struggling, the first thing niggas be talking about is like, God, like but Shit is expensive. I'm not saying it's not expensive, but that nigga got $350 pair of J's on his feet, though. Like, and I'm yeah, nigga, like this is a growing Jax: That he's gonna grow out of next year. Greg: boy, nigga. What the fuck? This nigga finna change sizes in six months. These shoes will be useless in seven months, nigga. He'll be nah, he'll outgrow them. But and on top of that, I'm gonna be honest with you. If you're spending so much money. on camps and shit, and none of your shit getting paid for, your son is not that nice. I'm gonna let you know right now. Your son is not that nice if you are paying for every single thing that you are being a part of. Every single thing? No. Your son is not that nice, or at least not nice enough for him to be slacking off academically. For him Jax: Yeah. Greg: for you to just be. Trying to LeBron James this bitch. Like you, yeah, he needs to be a student first, Jax: He ne he's he needs to be a real student athlete, like student athlete. Emphasize the student. Greg: athlete second. He needs to make sure college is gonna be paid for for this nigga. You know what I mean? He's gonna be in college all four years. Okay. Maybe five. May hey. Jax: Maybe five, maybe six, and that's okay. Greg: And that's okay. So yeah, you have to, you don't, there's too many niggas moving like. the Newman family out here training they sons and they not gonna be past five four or five five. And you training in this gym like a goddamn dog. Jax: How tall is how tall is what's his name? Julian, how tall is he? Because but he's like, what Greg: It's like five Jax: happened? Greg: he's like five five, five six. He's not Jax: Was he I was looking at, was he ever good? Was like was he in a recruit? Greg: he was he was cold as fuck in the fourth grade. That's when everybody was the same size though. Had mad handles, ma he was mad, had mad handles in the fourth grade. And he he just stopped growing. But like you look at his dad, his dad was like five six. I'm like, your dad knew this. This is not like a this would be different if like and I'm comparing Jax: If the dad was at like six two. Greg: Yeah, like if if your dad was brawn and he's six eight and you happen to figure out that your son Only girls are to be five, eight. That would just surprise us. It's like, okay, damn. I I thought that's crazy. I didn't who would have thought? I would have never thought that. Yeah, like, Jax: It skipped the game, my fault. Grandchild for Greg: yeah, you know what I mean? Like that, that's different. Nigga, we saw five six. Your dad is five six. Now, in the inverse. And Jax: You could have been a you could have been a running back. Greg: something, cause a nigga was quick. Yeah, he had some speed on him. Jax: Flat receiver flat receiver. Cold B. Greg: Come on now. Nigga moving like sincere. Like I nigga fast. Now, on the inverse, don't, don't, you never, you never know. Cause my dad was out here treating me like a goddamn post player because he was 5'10 and thought I wasn't gonna do shit. And I ended up being 6'3. I should have been having guard like skills. I should have, I should have been putting three fingers in the dirt. You know what I mean? There was just certain things that I should have been doing. But you thought I was gonna cap out at 5'9 or 5'10, because you're five nine or five ten. So you never know. It can it can be a pleasant surprise too. But Jax: Why didn't he have you play why didn't he have you doing guard stuff? Greg: Nah, I mean I was always like Jax: If he thought you was only gonna be five nine five ten, you should have been doing card stuff. Greg: But I was already like tall like I was like tall for like my age. So they were just throwing me in a powerful I was traditional power forward through and through. And Jax: Ha ha. Greg: and they were just like and once they got to like a certain age, my dad was like, he's like five, seven? He's probably not gonna take basketball seriously because he's not gonna grow. Like, who's gonna be a 5'7 post-up nigga? End up being a Yeah, Jax: This this fuckery won't continue much longer. Greg: like this fuckery won't continue long. Like, he'll do something else. And I kept growing, I kept playing. And now I'm just a 6'3 LiAngelo ball post-up. Now he's like, damn. I I didn't, I didn't I didn't figure this one out. I didn't I didn't play this right. I fuck this up. I'm not gonna But shout to Popsy. He was doing what Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: he could. Shout out to Popsy. He was only he was only doing what he was taught. But I say all that to say, invest in your child's academics. That's what my parents did. No matter what was going on, I was gonna be straight academically. And that's what happened with me. Do the same thing. And Jax: And it paid off, goddamn it. Greg: it paid off because Lord knows I wasn't going to nobody's D1. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: There's no six three power forward, nigga. That's crazy. But yeah, Jax, any last words? Jax: And you wanna change your life, go do some life changes shit, man. Greg: Damn, I know what my next hot tech's gonna be next week. Just found out. I just saw something on my computer screen that pissed me off. Anyway, yeah, man. there are no cheesecake factories in Nigeria. There are no Walmarts in Nigeria. Please stop going and arguing back and forth with people on the internet, especially people that are not from this country. you will save yourself time. extreme time. You are wasting energy when you do stupid shit like that, man. Focus on touching that grass. Actually cut the grass too sometimes. Do something. without further ado, we will catch y'all next week. hopefully by that time, one week closer to football season. The real football season, not this preseason shit. Just to count down. Jax: Yeah. Do not give a fuck. Greg: Friday. I do not give a fuck. I hope they do a a a YouTube game like they did last year. That was that was fun. Hopefully. Jax: I think they will. I think they will. Greg: Hopefully. But we'll catch y'all niggas next week.