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The Shock Reconciliation Vacay · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
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  Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
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  Speaker 2: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torber and coming up
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: on today's show, Talia Skane shocks followers by listing Dream
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Bali Villa for sale. The surprise contestants set to appear
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: on the new Bachelor spinoff and Meghan Markle's Mad March continues.
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  Speaker 2: But first, Molly Mae and Tommy Fury have all but
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  Speaker 2: confirmed their back together after jetting off on a family
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  Speaker 2: holiday to their happy place, Dubai. The reunion comes seven
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  Speaker 2: months after the shock split following Tommy's issues with alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: So if an eagle-eyed fan was the first to raise
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  Speaker 2: the alarm on Thursday, spotting them at Manchester airport. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this photo was all over my For You page and
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  Speaker 2: it showed the family of three lining up to board
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  Speaker 2: their flight. Now, UK tabloid The Sun ran with the
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  Speaker 2: photos straight away, reporting that they were accompanied by a
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  Speaker 2: nanny so they could spend more alone time together. The
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  Speaker 2: tabloid also spoke to onlookers. One source said, Another said,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if this was a situation where people just
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  Speaker 2: felt too awkward.
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  Speaker 1: To ask for a photo. Yeah, I would not have
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  Speaker 1: gone up.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people aren't really socially aware
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  Speaker 2: when they come across celebrities and they wouldn't have respected
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  Speaker 2: that it was awkward. Well, they don't appear to be
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  Speaker 2: hiding the fact they're away together because both of them
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  Speaker 2: are posting about being in Dubai. They haven't yet posted
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  Speaker 2: any photos of them together. But all of their photos
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  Speaker 2: are in the same resort. It's with their daughter, Bambi. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing, because straight away, the mainstream media started
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  Speaker 2: touting this as a secret reconciliation holiday. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that they both thought, well, everyone's talking about it. We
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  Speaker 2: may as well post about the trip. Did anyone notice
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  Speaker 2: that Tommy's photos were a lot better now on his
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  Speaker 2: Instagram story?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, clearly Molly has taken this photo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a shot of his Sunday roast with
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  Speaker 2: a Coca-Cola. Well, he's been taking some pretty nice photos
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  Speaker 2: of her as well. And you can read a lot
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  Speaker 2: into the captions because Molly keeps calling this her special place.
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  Speaker 1: And Tommy also.
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  Speaker 2: Uploaded a video of him with Bambi and he was
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  Speaker 2: floating on a pool toy with her and he said,
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  Speaker 2: the dream. So I just think that they are trying
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  Speaker 2: to soft launch that they're back on.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a soft launch. This is a hard launch.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if they are contractually obligated not to publicly
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  Speaker 2: say that they're back together. Perhaps Perhaps Prime has said
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  Speaker 2: you can't say it until we air this doco.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, no one's going to want to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I think they know that they're giving the fans what
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  Speaker 2: they want as well. I think they're confident that everyone's
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  Speaker 2: going to be ecstatic. Well, most people are going to
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  Speaker 2: be ecstatic that they're back together.
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  Speaker 1: So they feel.
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  Speaker 2: okay to be posting it because it looks like the
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  Speaker 2: most wholesome trip. I just hope they're vlogging it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they can't put it out right away, but come on.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you were at the resort watching this?
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  Speaker 2: Like this would be the best people watching ever. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Molly actually put up a photo of Bambi playing with
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  Speaker 2: this older group of kids and was gushing about how
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  Speaker 2: beautiful it was and they took such good care of her.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if the parents.
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  Speaker 2: Of those kids were like, go over there and find
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  Speaker 2: out what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Another photo on Molly's story caught my eye.
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  Speaker 2: It was of like a can of Coke and then
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  Speaker 2: what looked like two watermelon cocktails.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, are they mocktails or cocktails? Surely
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  Speaker 1: they're mocktails.
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  Speaker 2: At first I thought maybe the soft drink was for Bambi,
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  Speaker 2: but now I'm thinking maybe it was for the nanny.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they were all just having a drink together and
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  Speaker 2: maybe they were mocktails. Look. They're pretty loaded. They might
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  Speaker 2: just have bought two drinks. Like Molly might have bought
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  Speaker 2: two drinks for herself. Oh, I was just more concerned
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  Speaker 2: about the alcohol and it just had her mum in
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  Speaker 2: the doco ringing in my ear that every occasion seemed
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  Speaker 2: to turn negative with Tommy and alcohol. So I'm very
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  Speaker 2: much hoping that they are mocked as it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: a strange thing to.
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  Speaker 1: Post if you're back with Tommy.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like they've chosen Dubai for a specific reason.
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  Speaker 2: It was the first holiday that they went on with
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  Speaker 2: their daughter Bambi. She was only three months old when
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  Speaker 2: they took her there. And at the time, Molly described
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  Speaker 2: it as the happiest time of her life since she'd
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  Speaker 2: given birth to Bambi. I feel like they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: recreate the magic.
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  Speaker 1: Of the first trip. Wait, are they filming for Prime still?
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  Speaker 2: Like you mentioned about a YouTube, but is this going
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  Speaker 2: to be on the show? Hopefully. Surely it will be
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  Speaker 2: part of the documentary. Maybe that will be the winding
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  Speaker 2: up shots. It will be like, and they all lived
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  Speaker 2: happily ever after. Imagine if Tommy proposes over there and
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  Speaker 2: that's the next series. So does he have to propose
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  Speaker 2: again now that they've broken up or? If they get
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  Speaker 2: back together, does that mean they're still engaged? Look, I
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  Speaker 2: know we're all very excited about it, but I do
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  Speaker 2: have a few concerns. This relationship only broke up seven
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  Speaker 2: months ago. I wonder if there has been enough time
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  Speaker 2: to iron out a lot of the issues that Tommy's
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  Speaker 2: had with alcohol. It seems like there were further issues
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  Speaker 2: with their relationship with his partying as well and potential
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  Speaker 2: women that he'd been with. Well, we'll probably find out
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  Speaker 2: more in the documentary. And Kate, to answer your question,
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  Speaker 2: I think if you've broken up for seven months, you
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  Speaker 2: have to do another proposal.
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  Speaker 1: Another ring? Surely not. That ring is big enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Molly seemed really happy in a recent vlog and
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  Speaker 2: she actually gushed about the upcoming holiday saying this.
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  Speaker 3: Going to Dubai with Bambi and we are going for
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  Speaker 3: a little holiday, but I feel like I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: really have some fun. like, nice time off and just, like,
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  Speaker 3: really switch off. Like, I'm still going to post and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's needed, this little trip. And I'm actually, like, very much,
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  Speaker 3: as you guys know, like, a home girl. I love
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  Speaker 3: my time at home. I never really crave the need
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  Speaker 3: to go away. Like, I'm so content when I'm at home. It's, like,
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  Speaker 3: my happiest times. But recently, I have been craving a
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  Speaker 3: little getaway and just some time to kind of just, like, escape.
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  Speaker 2: I saw there were so many comments and they were
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  Speaker 2: all like, I'm so happy to see you with Tommy.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great time in Dubai with Tommy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she did admit the fact that she was going
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  Speaker 2: with Tommy. And again, it really does make me think
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  Speaker 2: that they have signed something with Prime. Well, the general
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  Speaker 2: consensus I feel on TikTok is that everyone is happy
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  Speaker 2: about this news. There was a TikToker who actually spotted
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  Speaker 2: the couple in Dubai and she shared a post saying,
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  Speaker 2: may or may not have just witnessed our favorite blonde
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  Speaker 2: with her baby girl and man in Dubai mall. And
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  Speaker 2: this led followers to write, I genuinely feel like they're
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  Speaker 2: on a make or break holiday. We're all rooting for them.
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  Speaker 2: Whilst another said, I love this. One couple I want
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  Speaker 2: to work. There are, however, some people who don't actually
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  Speaker 2: think that this means that they're back together and maybe
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  Speaker 2: they're just very mature and a co-parenting, but there is
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  Speaker 2: no way you wouldn't be talking about how special this
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  Speaker 2: holiday is. You'd be talking about how challenging it is
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  Speaker 2: to be there with your ex.
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  Speaker 1: Well, spare a.
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  Speaker 2: Thought for the nanny, regardless of what kind of trip
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  Speaker 2: this is or what relationship status they are.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be fucking awkward, wouldn't it?
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  Speaker 2: But maybe it's good that there's someone else there to
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  Speaker 2: bounce off and You know, you kind of put more
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  Speaker 2: of an effort in when there's a third party. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but she's probably off with Bambi doing stuff, letting them
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  Speaker 2: have their alone time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're travelling around as this. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I think you need to spare a thought for Molly's
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  Speaker 1: sister Zoe.
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  Speaker 2: It has got to be really awkward for her because
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  Speaker 2: she was very vocal on the Prime doco about how
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  Speaker 2: she didn't think that they should get back together and
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  Speaker 2: that he was bad news and that she clashed with him. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what's even more awkward is that Zoe recently put out
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  Speaker 2: a vlog where she revealed that she and Danny are
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  Speaker 2: actually moving into Molly's house with her. So they live
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  Speaker 2: in quite a small apartment or it looks like an
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  Speaker 2: apartment or a unit at the moment. And she said
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  Speaker 2: that now that she's an influencer, she's so inundated with
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  Speaker 2: packages and receiving goods that they actually don't have room
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  Speaker 2: in their house.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have enough storage. So they were going to.
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  Speaker 2: Rent a house and Molly called her up and said, well, hey,
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  Speaker 2: have you ever just considered temporarily moving in with me?
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of people are saying, Well, does this mean.
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  Speaker 2: That Tommy and Molly aren't getting back together if they've
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  Speaker 2: got their sister moving in? Yeah, but this is also
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  Speaker 2: because Zoe and her husband are looking to buy a house. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it'll be for the short term. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: they need a buffer, Kate, as you were saying with
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  Speaker 2: the nanny. Like maybe they need Zoe and Danny there.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to bring in a buffer who does
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  Speaker 2: not like your partner or ex-partner. I think it's just
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  Speaker 2: a temporary fix while Molly needs the help of other babysitters, really.
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  Speaker 3: Spend the morning with me as a self-employed Australian living
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  Speaker 3: in Bali.
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  Speaker 2: Talia Skanes has shocked her followers by revealing her three-story
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  Speaker 2: villa in Iluatu is up for sale. The Bali-based influencer
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  Speaker 2: has been documenting the build for the past two years
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  Speaker 2: and touted the luxury villa as her permanent home. Now,
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  Speaker 2: so this villa was featured heavily in Talia's content. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because a huge part of Talia's channel has been documenting
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  Speaker 2: this villa build. So she moved to Bali with her boyfriend,
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  Speaker 2: Jake Sajano, over two years ago, and they've really taken
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  Speaker 2: followers along for the ride.
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  Speaker 1: We've been a.
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  Speaker 2: Fly on the wall for all of the site checks,
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  Speaker 2: the slab being laid. We've seen the pool going in. Recently,
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  Speaker 2: we also saw a bunch of custom furniture being installed.
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  Speaker 2: And in true influencer style, they also made up a
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  Speaker 2: home account for the villa, which has 6,000 followers. And
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  Speaker 2: they gave it a name because we know that Talia
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  Speaker 2: likes naming her village because she had a villa with
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  Speaker 2: her ex-boyfriend, Mitch Third, which was called Villa Tami.
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  Speaker 1: Was that a combination of their names?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: It was Mitch and Talia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now this villa is called Casa Su, which means
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: home at the end of the river. So Even in
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  Speaker 2: the name, it has the word home in it. So
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  Speaker 2: there was a general vibe that this was going to
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  Speaker 2: be their, maybe not forever home, but their home for at.
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  Speaker 1: Least a couple of years. Why does it just remind
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  Speaker 1: me of Ekansu? Ekansu. Well, it's bloody nice.
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  Speaker 2: When you say villa, you kind of think of a small,
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  Speaker 2: maybe one or two bedrooms. This place is massive and
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  Speaker 2: the view is absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 1: It is so luxurious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I would love to live in this house.
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  Speaker 1: It looks incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Talia said that she wasn't actually planning on opening up
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  Speaker 2: about the sale so soon because she said there's still
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  Speaker 2: several months until they officially move out. But she said
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  Speaker 2: that she'd been inundated with so many questions about the villa,
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  Speaker 2: she felt as though she needed to open up. So
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  Speaker 2: she wrote in a Q & A on Instagram, Cass's
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: suit actually just up for sale so many bittersweet conflicting
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  Speaker 2: emotions Sue is the most incredible home I am beyond
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: obsessed and she exceeded sorry for some reason it cracks
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  Speaker 2: me up they refer to the house as a woman
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  Speaker 2: and she exceeded all expectations I've honestly dreaded this day
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  Speaker 2: since before we even started building but I'm also super
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  Speaker 2: excited for the future. That's a bit of a weird
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  Speaker 2: thing because it gives off the impression that they were
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  Speaker 2: always going to sell. Well, it comes as a shock
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of people because they only just completed
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  Speaker 2: the villa in September of last year. So they've really
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  Speaker 2: only lived there for a couple of months when it's
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  Speaker 2: been completed. And there was a lot of speculation that
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  Speaker 2: maybe Talia and Jake might be moving back home, but
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  Speaker 2: they later confirmed that they're staying put in Bali. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he is a property developer and this is his bread
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  Speaker 2: and butter. But as you said, it was always touted
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  Speaker 2: as being their home. I wonder if they just got
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  Speaker 2: an offer that was too good to turn down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's really confusing, Kate, because they never promoted it as
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  Speaker 2: an investment property. As you said, he is part of
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  Speaker 2: a development company in Bali, which describes itself as his
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  Speaker 2: premier property developer called the Local Villa Group. And as
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  Speaker 2: you said, maybe it shouldn't come as such a surprise,
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  Speaker 2: but They never said it was an investment property. They
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  Speaker 2: said it was their dream home that they were building.
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  Speaker 2: And even up until recently, Talia created a broadcast channel
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  Speaker 2: for Casa Su and she wrote that she was struggling
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  Speaker 2: to sleep at night because she's that excited about.
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  Speaker 1: The new house. And she said, it's my dream home.
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  Speaker 2: And she just can't believe that she gets to wake
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  Speaker 2: up to this every day. Something is going on behind
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: the scenes. I mean, I remember when Leah Acenas put
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  Speaker 2: her house up on the market and then suddenly she's
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: obviously moved to the Gold Coast.
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  Speaker 1: So There's always something going on behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe she doesn't want to be in Iluatu anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if either a really great opportunity for land
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  Speaker 2: in a better spot has opened up or there's a
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  Speaker 2: villa that they really want to renovate. Because she mentioned
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  Speaker 2: in a recent YouTube video that she's working on a
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  Speaker 2: new project that she's not going to open up about
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  Speaker 2: until the end of the year. And she teased, if
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  Speaker 2: you like the journey of Kasasu, you will like the
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  Speaker 2: latest project. So maybe they see developing these villas as
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  Speaker 2: part of content strategy and as part of her brand.
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  Speaker 2: And now that it's done, are people going to lose
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  Speaker 2: interest in her content? So how do they actually make money?
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  Speaker 2: Because I understand if you are not a Balinese local,
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  Speaker 2: you can't actually purchase land in Bali. Yeah, it's really
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  Speaker 2: interesting because Australians can't own land outright in Bali. They
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: have to be listed as a leaseholder. So they can
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: only acquire property rights through this leasehold agreement where basically
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: the property owner grants them the right to use and
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: manage the property for a fixed period of time. In
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: the case of Casa Su, the property has a leasehold
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  Speaker 2: until December 2056. Wow, that's a long time away. You
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  Speaker 2: touched on before, Kate, that maybe Jake and Talia got
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  Speaker 2: an offer on the villa that was too good to
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  Speaker 2: be true, but they've actually listed it through a very
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  Speaker 2: popular Balinese realtor at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: So it's all over their social.
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  Speaker 2: So it looks like they don't have a current buyer
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  Speaker 2: and they're putting a lot of marketing into trying to
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  Speaker 2: get the best price possible.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that they haven't.
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  Speaker 2: Been inundated with offers though, because Georgie Stevenson recently had
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: some trouble selling her Gold Coast mansion. She's now actually
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  Speaker 2: renting it out, but it was actually passed in an
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  Speaker 2: auction for the first time they put it up for
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  Speaker 2: sale and But she had said that they had had
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  Speaker 2: so many different offers over the time that they owned
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  Speaker 2: the house and they were really big offers. So they
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  Speaker 2: probably had a few offers come in that they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we actually can't turn these down. Let's put it on
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  Speaker 2: the market and see how many more come in and
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  Speaker 2: pit these people against each other. I get the vibe
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  Speaker 2: that they plan to just sell this property all along,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe they thought Talia's followers would buy in more
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  Speaker 2: if they thought we're following the journey of you building
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  Speaker 2: your dream home as opposed to We're following the journey
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  Speaker 2: of you building an investment portfolio on property.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty earnest look at it. I
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  Speaker 2: think that there's more going on behind the scenes than
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  Speaker 2: we know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they might have run out of money and need
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  Speaker 1: to sell.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: It's a heritage brand, but we're bringing it forward into 2025.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Anticipation is growing for Nine's new spin-off of The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: The new series called The Golden Bachelor will see older
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: contestants competing for love with one familiar face getting viewers excited. Yeah,
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: so none other than Abby Chatfield's mum, Laura, has been
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: packed on the set of the.
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  Speaker 1: New series, which is being filmed in Sydney. What an
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  Speaker 1: absolute get from the producers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it seemed like it was only going to
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: be a matter of time before we saw Abby's mum
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  Speaker 2: popping up on a reality show because In 2021, Abby
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: actually created a petition for her mum to become the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 2: And then in 2023, Abby did an interview with the
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Sydney Morning Herald and she was talking about how amazing
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: her mum would be if there was a golden bachelorette.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: So this was off the back of the golden bachelor
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: being commissioned in the US. So they've obviously headhunted her
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  Speaker 2: for the show. I've seen a lot more of Laura
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: also popping up on Abby's Instagram and TikTok. There was
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: this funny video where Laura had purchased Adam and Abby
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  Speaker 2: this like sex.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Dice, basically.
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  Speaker 2: It had all these different positions for them to drive.
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  Speaker 1: For her daughter.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my God, what a character.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: It's very clever because Channel 9 are going to get
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: so much free social media publicity with Abby sharing about
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: this series. And I think the connection to Abby is
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: going to draw a lot of viewers in. Well, Abby
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: has a connection with Channel 9. She is a judge
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: on the show, The Masked Singer. So it ties in
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: really nicely for them. What's amusing is that the casting
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: director has come out and said what a struggle it
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: was to actually find contestants for this show. And it
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: has a lot to do with the age demographics. So
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: the original call out said that they were looking for
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: people between 60 and 75 who were looking for the last.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Great love of their life.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: The issue is that a lot of the people who
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: applied apparently didn't know how to upload photos and videos online.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: So they've had to go to quite desperate attempts. So
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: they've started contacting retirement homes. They also handed out business
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: cards to race goers at Royal Randwick and started advertising
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: on the oldie radio stations like 2GB and 3AW.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: To fill out this cast.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I suppose the oldies also don't give a shit about
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: their social media following. So They really do need to
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: find older people who actually want to fall in love.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what's actually going to make this
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: show good. People are going to be there for the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: right reasons and not to get fame on social media.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: That's one of the big reasons why The Bachelor got
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: axed from Channel 10, because people had enough of this
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: series because they were finding that most of the people
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: who went on were only going on to become influencers.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: And people were actually missing that true love story. Surely
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of these people's kids are applying for them. Well,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: in the initial call out, it did say if anyone
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: knows of anyone that should be on the show. So
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: surely these people's kids or grandkids can help them upload
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: a video. Yeah. Well, ironically, the Golden Bachelor himself is
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: actually a lot younger than what the casting agencies originally wanted.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: So he's only in his 50s. He's an infrastructure engineer
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: from Sydney and he's been dubbed as a passionate sailor
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: who has three sons between the ages of 17 and 21.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And it's a sad story because his wife, Audrey, passed
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: away in 2011 after being diagnosed with an aggressive brain tumour.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's awful.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: What I found funny about the marketing of this show
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: is they're trying to portray it's like all these oldies.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Coming on, but this guy... He's not your typical 50-year-old.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: He looks a bit like Tim Robards. He's got a six-pack.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: The 50's not even that old.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, 50's pretty young. But the
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: fact they were going around to retirement villages to try
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and cast for this show, I wonder how he's going
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: to feel about it. I wonder if it's going to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: have a bit of a cougar vibe, if the cast
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: of females are going to be in their 70s and
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: he's only in his 50s.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: It would be a bit weird.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Well, apparently a source told the Daily Mail that his
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: sons are always complaining that he's bringing around the wrong
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: kind of girls that are too young and hot for him. Oh,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: so he's into the younger ones. Maybe he's on there
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to build his profile then.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Well, he is a.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Lot younger than the US's Golden Bachelor. So he was
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: 72 and he ended up marrying one of the contestants
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: on a TV special, but they got divorced a few
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: months later. But the Golden Bachelor was a massive success
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: in the US. It brought in over 6.1 million viewers
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: for its finale episode. And that was the most watched
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Bachelor episode in three years. So I think nine are
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: hoping for the same success. It's because we want some
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: good personalities. We want a real love story. And I
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: think that it's something.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: A little bit different.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they're going for a bit more of
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: a feel-good vibe because they've got rid of Osher. Samantha
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Armitage is hosting the show.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that change.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: She recently hosted Farmer Wants a Wife, and that was
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: very popular for being a bit more wholesome and authentic.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: They just need to get the casting right and also
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the promotion because I always think the Aussie Bachelor has
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: never been as good as the US one because they
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: didn't go there with like the fantasy suite. They never
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: had the fantasy suite and the opportunity to forgo their
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: separate bedrooms. I feel like The Bachelor was pretty good
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: in the early stages. Like the series where Matty J
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: got his heart broken was probably one of my favourites.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: It was good but that's because we didn't have a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: streaming service and everyone was was watching it at home together.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And it was like that water cooler moment.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Like I remember at work, before The Bachelor would air,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: everyone would have kind of like the Melbourne Cup where
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: they cut up all.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: The faces of the contestants and everyone would get one
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and see who won.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: But I think these contestants are going to be so
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: much more likable because as you said, Kate, they're not
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: going to be looking for Instagram followers. And also the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: older you get, the less shit you give. Like I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: feel like there's going to be a lot of people
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: who are going to be really genuine on there. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that's what people are calling out for. I mean, we've
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: even seen it with Love Island UK. There was a
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: lot of talk about how People aren't really wanting to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: tune into it anymore because a lot of the contestants
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: are second guessing themselves because they know so many people
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: are watching. I feel like the oldies know that people
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: are watching.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe they just don't care as much.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at say Molly Mae's grandma on her doco.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Like she was performing to the camera, but it was
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: comedy gold. Like they just don't even know how funny
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: they're yeah and there was that popular reality show i
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: think it was called my mom your dad remember where
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the kids would watch their parents interact i feel like
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a bit like that queen what
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: are you saying queen queen you're queen so i'm not
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: hip i'm not queen q-u-e-e-n oh queen.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I'm actually a duchess now.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Meghan Markle's Mad March continues. In the space of a month,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: she's released her Netflix lifestyle show and announced a second season,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: as well as rebranded her product range. This week, she
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: also revealed she's dropping a brand new podcast on April 8th.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: For those following Meghan closely, it's probably not a huge
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: surprise because in February, she signed with an American podcast
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: distributor called Lemonader Media. I had never heard of them before,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: but they're best known for producing Julia Lewis Drivers podcasts,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Elaine from Seinfeld, and they also have about 40 other
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: podcasts within their network. Now, at the time, Megan said
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that she was happy to be supporting a female-founded company
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and continue her love of podcasting. It is unclear, though,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: how much this deal is worth. So her previous deal
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: with Spotify for archetypes was.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Worth $ 20 million.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Well, they ended up dropping Megan's podcast in 2022. Well,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the claim was that they mutually parted ways. But it
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: was later reported that Megan and Harry had failed to
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: meet Spotify's productivity benchmarks. But that's despite the fact that
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: it seemed to actually rate quite well. I mean, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: think there was probably a bit of hate listening going on. Yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I personally... listened to a few episodes and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really, I don't have an
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: interest in listening anymore. But if people do want to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: listen to a part of this new deal with Lemonader,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they're actually redistributing archetypes.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Remember there was.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: A huge break between podcast episodes because I think it
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: was when the Queen passed away and out.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Of respect, they paused the series for a while.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: So it was really difficult for her to build any
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: sort of momentum.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's kind of like her lifestyle show.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: A lot of people were annoyed that it was just
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: this place to push her famous friendships, because she had
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Serena Williams and Mariah Carey, Mindy Kaling. I was interested
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: to see what Megan would come out with for her
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: next podcast. And the show is called Confessions of a
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Female Founder, and it will be released weekly. So it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: an eight-part series, and it's set to feature candid conversations
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: between Megan and other females who have launched successful businesses.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Because as we know, Megan is launching her new business.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: So The podcast is basically her picking the brains of
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: other women who had great success in business.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I kind of like that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: As someone who is a female that has two businesses,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited to hopefully hear some insightful interviews.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But it does have that 2016 vibe. girl boss vibes,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: which I don't like.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: What I find amusing about the whole thing is even
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: in Megan's new show, they were kind of acting like
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: she just started this small business, but it's like you
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: are literally the Duchess. Well, to be fair, when you
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: look at it, she started off by selling jam. So
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that is a very small local type of business with
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: a huge inbuilt following. She's got a bit of a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: headstart on some of the smaller businesses or business owners
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that might be listening. I'm interested to see who she's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: going to interview because she has been criticized for the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: guests that she's had on her TV show. A lot
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: of people have said, oh, these are meant to be
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: your best friends, but it seems like none of you
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: know each other. And then when it came to her
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: podcast archetypes, it was that she had two bigger celebrities
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: on there. So I'm wondering what sort of entrepreneur she's
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: going to have on there. One thing that Megan and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: her team seem really good at is inclusivity.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: We saw it on the show.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to hear from a wide range
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: of women from all walks of life, which will be great. Well, unsurprisingly,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: she's already been called a copycat by the media. Everything
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Megan seems to do, they seem to say, oh, someone
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: else has done that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It's like, no shit. It's a podcast. Well, it's an
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: interview format. I mean, yeah, it's pretty run of the mill.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Some people are saying it's very similar to the podcast
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Confessions of a CEO, while others are saying that she's
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: stolen the podcast idea from YouTuber Katie Meart, who has
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a YouTube series called Confessions of a Female Founder, which
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: is the exact name of Megan's podcast. I'm guessing the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: press just Googled the name of the podcast and then
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: they came across this YouTube and they're like, right. Well,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Katie has publicly stated in her opinion that it's just
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: a coincidence. And when asked about the similarity, she said,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I completely understand why people are drawing connections and truly
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: appreciate the support and understand their intention. But I also
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: understand coincidence as well. It's highly unlikely Megan ever came
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: across my channel and but I am flattered by the thought.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: What does concern me is how quickly this is turning
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: into another reason to drag a woman down. That's not
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: something I want to contribute to. I know firsthand what
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it feels like to have my work actually copied. This
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: isn't that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I love that she stood up for her.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: That's so nice. And it's very true what she said.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It's like every time Megan releases something new, everyone's on
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: this witch hunt to find a problem with it. Well,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: particularly for Katie, who's built a YouTube channel called on
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: uplifting other women in business. She wouldn't want to look
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like she's dragging anyone down. And can I point out
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: she has just over 2,000 subscribers.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like this big thing, is it?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: It's not like Megan's probably one of those and has
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: copied it. She's probably loving the exposure for her YouTube
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: channel being mentioned in these articles.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And, I mean, at this point in podcasting, nothing is
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a new idea.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, this market is so oversaturated and there's only
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: so many ideas that actually suit an audio platform.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So many podcasts overlap.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when we first started and we
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: were told that we were copying Shameless and Shameless were
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: told that they were copying Mamma Mia and The High Low.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, people can have an interview podcast
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: where they talk to female founders. It's going to be different.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be exactly like the other ones
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: out there. The drawcard is Megan. That's why people are
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: going to listen. Yeah, as you say, Kate, it's just
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a genre of podcasting. But do you notice that this
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: type of criticism is only usually levelled at females?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've never heard anyone accuse... any of the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: sport shows of copying each other. Like, oh, that footy podcast.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Probably because no one wants to fucking listen to that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: In terms of.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: This concept, what do you guys think? Is this something
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: you want to hear Megan talk about or is there
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: something else you'd prefer?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Well, it's difficult for her, isn't it? Well, she's already
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: dished the dirt on the Royals, which is what I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: would have wanted to hear.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the number one thing I'd want to hear.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear the behind the scenes of Suits
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and her acting career.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I want to hear more about her and her life.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to hear her interview other people,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: but From the perspective, as I said, of someone who
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: runs a business, I will be interested to hear the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: insights from other women. And we've seen from her shows
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and her in the media that she's very smart. She's
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: very articulate. I think she's going to do a good
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: job interviewing them. Yeah, but I think what people want
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: from her is authenticity. And podcast format allows you to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: be a bit more off the cuff, to be relatable.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And I think that she really needs to show a
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: more unpolished side of herself. And to be a little
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: bit more self-deprecating and maybe talk about the struggles that
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: she's actually had with her business, particularly the trademarking issues,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: which are clearly a big issue. I mean, the fact
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: that she hasn't even released any of her products in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: line with her Netflix show is clearly a big problem
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: for her. I would really love to hear. what has
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: actually been going on behind the scenes.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she's delayed it and not actually spoken
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: about it. She's saving it for a podcast.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I highly doubt she'll be talking about this. This is
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: going to be more of an inspirational podcast. One other
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: thing I would like to hear from her podcast, if
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I could have my pick, is her interviewing Harry. Oh, yes.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I would just find it fascinating.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I know we heard a bit about their love story
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: in the doco they did for Netflix, but I'd like
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to hear more about it. I'd like them to do,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: is it that 150 questions that make you fall in.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Love with each other?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: That would be amazing.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: You do.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: What did you say?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: The question.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I said yes.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: UK Love Island contestant Luca Bisch has sparked debate about
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: extravagant proposals after setting up a lavish display for his
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Love Island co-star Grace Jackson. So Luca pulled out all
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the stops during a paid trip to Abu Dhabi with
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a stunning floral set up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: On the beach.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: It was very reminiscent of when Travis Barker, proposed to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Kourtney Kardashian, except it had a white theme instead.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: There were a lot of white roses. There was a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: huge neon sign. It looked absolutely stunning.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was quite clear that Luca had nothing
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to do with actually setting it up.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: It would have been some sort of party planner.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: But the kicker to all of this was the sign read,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: will you be my girlfriend? So this wasn't even a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: marriage proposal. This was Luca asking Grace to be his girlfriend. Well,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: this isn't new behaviour from Luca Bisch. Last time he
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: was on Love Island a couple of years ago, he
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: did a very extravagant girlfriend proposal to Gemma Owen. Yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: so people are slamming him. They're saying he's just rehashed
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the same proposal he did for Gemma. But I had
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a look back and I actually think his first girlfriend
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: proposal was more extravagant because he did it at her
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: family home, which is this huge mansion in the UK.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Because her dad is a famous soccer player, so they're
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: not short of money. Yeah, and he had a cello
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: player there. He had a Cartier bracelet waiting for her.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: There were balloons in the pool, which spelt out, will
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you be my girlfriend? And he even hired a videographer.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if Grace would look back at that
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and go, wait a sec, this wasn't as nice. Another
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: sore point might be that this post appears to have
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: been sponsored. Like the whole trip they were on was
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: sponsored in Abu Dhabi. So on Instagram, he shared the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: photos and wrote, I'll keep this one. And he tagged
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a beach club saying, Thank you for bringing my vision
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to life so perfectly. Wouldn't have wanted to do this
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: in any other place.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not surprised that this was sponsored.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It's clear that as soon as the guys leave Love
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Island and they're with a partner, some party planner or
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: event person reaches out and says, hey, can we do
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: something extravagant? Because I saw Ronnie and Harriet, they had
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the similar sort of thing where Ronnie had filled the
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: whole room with balloons.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Like it's nothing new.
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  Speaker 2: And what's quite interesting though is– Gen Zers in particular
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  Speaker 2: think that they need to have a really grand way
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  Speaker 2: to ask people to be their boyfriend or girlfriend. It's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the same with Valentine's Day. Now you've got to ask
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: someone to be your Valentine.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: You don't just assume.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And it was quite interesting because I was looking at
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  Speaker 2: the comment section and there are a lot of millennials saying,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't even have a conversation with my partner about this,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: like about being boyfriend and girlfriend.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: It was assumed.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well, one of our listeners said, my husband just changed
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: his Facebook relationship status. And I was like, okay, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: guess I'm his girlfriend now. But isn't this a step
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: up from what we used to experience in our early 20s?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Because the guys that I dated never, ever wanted to
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: put a label on something. And then you had to
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: have this awkward conversation about what are we and. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I actually think it makes it harder because it makes
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: it look like it's an even bigger deal to just be.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: In a relationship. Like at the end of Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: Because it looks like it's some massive proposal, like a
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: wedding proposal. At least it's kind of like, well, this
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: is the done thing. So we mustn't be boyfriend and
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: girlfriend because I haven't been proposed to.
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  Speaker 1: But I just think it shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Be that big of a deal to be boyfriend and girlfriend.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, In saying that, I expected for my husband now,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: boyfriend at the time, to ask me to be his girlfriend,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: but he said he didn't know that that was a thing.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And I think it's because my first.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Boyfriend asked me by giving me flowers and it was
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Neon sign and whatnot. But the reason that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: He made it a big deal was because literally rewind
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks before and he was off on
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: a med camp sleeping with a bunch of other girls.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to ask Kate, how did Rhys ask
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  Speaker 2: you to be his girlfriend? it's just a general understanding
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  Speaker 2: that we were boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't think we'd
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: use the label when I visited his parents.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And I think once you're visiting the parents, you are.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: That's what Dale asked me. He literally said, will you
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: be my girlfriend? I mean, it wasn't as grand as
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Luke Abish's proposal. Well, what do you do if like
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: say Luke Abish ends up with Grace? Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: What's he going to do for the engagement? Like, you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: how do you top that?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the full series of Love Island.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I had to tap out.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Because it just got quite boring. But Luca Bish is
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: one of my favorites.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And I really like Grace as well. I have watched
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: both of.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Their seasons individually. And I don't see this relationship lasting.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I don't really like them together. I don't like them
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: together either.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I think that they're both lovely individually, but they just
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: don't seem to match well. And I think that this
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: will be a very short-lived I think that this might
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: be similar to his relationship with Gemma Owen. I think
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: that his big grand proposal could be the kiss of death.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe it might give.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: The girls a bit of the ick.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one listener compared the proposal to– you remember on
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Laguna Beach?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Remember when they'd ask if they'd go to prom with them? Oh,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I love that. That is such a good call. That
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: was cute though.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be so great if being at high school
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and the guy that you like does something really creative
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and cute?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Again, it's– if you're on the other end of it
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and no one asks you, quite heartbreaking. Well, I polled
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: our listeners on Instagram and I asked, is the girlfriend
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: proposal over the top? And 89% of you said it
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: was over the top, while 11% said all.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Guys should do this.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I think this reflects our strong millennial listener base because
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot of listeners who probably
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: weren't even proposed to in such a grand way like
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: this and think it's It almost seems very showy and.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: All for Instagram. Well, a lot of people said it's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: just cringe. It is cringe.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's where we're going to leave things today. Thank
• 32:58
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