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138 The Strange Connection Between Gods, Bigfoot & UFOs/ It's Not What You Think! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul.
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  Speaker 2: On my front the chielded and one.
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  Speaker 1: Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side, and
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  Speaker 1: the driver's side of my car just pushed down, just
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  Speaker 1: the weight of it just puts pushed down, and the
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  Speaker 1: Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the
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  Speaker 2: ground underneath me just kind of opened up and I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there. I rubbed my corn
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  Speaker 3: my truck, I jump out the truck talk and that's
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  Speaker 3: what I knew it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was this gold Man.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low general crowd.
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  Speaker 2: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 2: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 4: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 4: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show everyone. This is episode one
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  Speaker 3: and thirty eight when John Mark John reached out to
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  Speaker 3: me through my email address. So it's working. You guys
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  Speaker 3: are reached out to me in contacted me and John
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  Speaker 3: is a it's a it's a lot of things, but
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  Speaker 3: he's trying to express here. You know, started from his
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  Speaker 3: childhood having night terrors and seeing spirits to you know,
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  Speaker 3: moving from Mississippi to western North Carolina, lailas. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot to do with pagan gods here. There's some bigfoot
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  Speaker 3: stuff here, and there's some UFO stuff here. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot to take in here. And just listen to the episode.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of meanders its way from some interesting topics,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, when someone's trying to express their life
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  Speaker 3: story too, it can be very difficult. And yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I really appreciated it. Under less Sean, I've really enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: the discussion. So thanks so much for reaching out to me.
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  Speaker 3: are really enjoying what I'm doing here. Thanks to all
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  Speaker 3: the new listeners. And I really hope you enjoyed this
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  Speaker 3: episode with John mar.
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  Speaker 2: Be here. Good good man.
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  Speaker 3: So you've reached out to me, man, and we did it,
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  Speaker 3: like what a week ago you reached out to me.
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  Speaker 2: I've been You've been the most awesome podcaster. I've triund
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  Speaker 2: to get in touch with your professional lism. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you've been awesome. Thank you. Well.
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  Speaker 3: I try to just to be treated the way I
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  Speaker 3: want other people to treat me. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: if people were to do that, then the world will
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  Speaker 3: change immediately in.
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  Speaker 2: Front of the eyes. And I'm like that. And I
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  Speaker 2: think people like you and I like sometimes get so
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  Speaker 2: angry and fed up with like because we our minds
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  Speaker 2: are cognitive distance does not understand why other people don't
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  Speaker 2: act that way. You know, over time we learn how
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  Speaker 2: people are people. But yeah, you can't help but feel
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  Speaker 2: that way at first. You know, it's like, uh, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of burn.
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  Speaker 3: You kind of get through that with time, you know,
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  Speaker 3: older you get the slower you get the less. I
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  Speaker 3: don't let it bother me. But you know, at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, you know, all right, dude, do me a favor.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead and introduce yourself and tell us where we
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  Speaker 3: can find you.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. My name is John. My channel is Brother Little Foot,
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  Speaker 2: which is right down here, uh on the screen, and
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  Speaker 2: I live near Cherokee, North Carolina. I have a book.
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  Speaker 2: I do have a I wrote a book called He's
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  Speaker 2: Not Harry, He's Our Brother, and it can be found
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  Speaker 2: on Amazon. But the links on my channel are they've
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  Speaker 2: they've changed the Amazon changed the link, Kindle whatever for
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  Speaker 2: whatever reason. And uh so it's it's not on the link,
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  Speaker 2: but He's not Harry, He's our brother. If you search it,
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  Speaker 2: it'll come up, okay. But and it's it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: a kendle E book. It's a cheap book, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's it was just kind of about the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of my journey. And actually what I'm getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to talk about with you is is more or less
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  Speaker 2: the second half of my journey. Uh. Since that, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So so where do you want to begin? It's up
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  Speaker 2: to you, man. It's how are you Since I was
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  Speaker 2: can remember I've been seeing spirits. Uh. The first memory
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  Speaker 2: I I think is me sticking a coat hanger in
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  Speaker 2: my mouth and pulling it, and I remember Paisley wallpaper
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  Speaker 2: in front of me. I was about three, I think
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  Speaker 2: at the time. And then all the memories after that
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  Speaker 2: were I'd go to sleep at night and see shadows
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  Speaker 2: around me. And then at some point I started having
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  Speaker 2: night terrors, which I fairly recently talked to my mother
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  Speaker 2: about it. My mother and father were a good bit there.
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  Speaker 2: I was. I believe I was an accident child and
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  Speaker 2: my father was reacher, so I don't think they won't
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  Speaker 2: admit it. But and the father's passed away now about
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  Speaker 2: three years ago. Bless him. Best man I've ever known,
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  Speaker 2: just hands down. I have different feelings about religion and
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  Speaker 2: so on, but still just hands down best man I've
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  Speaker 2: ever known. And I'm glad, really grateful to had him
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  Speaker 2: as a father. And my mother too, is just an
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  Speaker 2: amazing woman. My father grew up bicn Cotten. My mother
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  Speaker 2: had to Her father left her family when she was
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  Speaker 2: I think six, and she had she was giving piano
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  Speaker 2: lessons at age twelve to help pay the rent in
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  Speaker 2: t Plow, Mississippi, of all places, and actually went to
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  Speaker 2: school with Elvis Presley. I know that sounds crazy. Every
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  Speaker 2: everything I say here is gonna sound completely unbelievable. Some
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  Speaker 2: worry about it about this is your's total anecdotal evidence,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, that's a big word.
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  Speaker 3: That's about was about twelve letters there, Okay, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so you started talking about these night terrors, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So and then I would not remember what happened. And
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  Speaker 2: my mother, I'm trying to remember what happened. What she
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  Speaker 2: told me. She said I would wake up in the
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  Speaker 2: night and I'd be basically sleepwalking, but I would be
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  Speaker 2: running banging on their doors, saying let me in. Mother, mother,
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  Speaker 2: Mother helped me, father, father, father helped me. Jesus, Jesus
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  Speaker 2: helped me. And uh, they said I wouldn't calm down
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  Speaker 2: until I would. They would put me in between them
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  Speaker 2: and the bed. And what's interesting in and really a
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  Speaker 2: part or part of the stories. I later found out
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  Speaker 2: that Jackson, Mississippi, where I am from, has a lay
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  Speaker 2: line that runs through it from there all the way
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  Speaker 2: up here to a Masonic marker out in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere off the Blue Ridge Parkway, about five miles
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  Speaker 2: or so off the Blue Ridge parkway out in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of nowhere. I'm pretty sure what that's what they
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  Speaker 2: put the road there for. Originally there's one or two
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  Speaker 2: campgrounds out there now and in the same lay line
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  Speaker 2: runs right through Jackson, Mississippi, where I moved from when
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  Speaker 2: I was twelve years old forty eight now and are
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  Speaker 2: there's an ancient volcano under Jackson, And there's five ancient
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  Speaker 2: volcanoes in the mid South, and one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: one was under Jackson that's directly under the Mississippi Coliseum,
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  Speaker 2: which I drive right around when I go, you know,
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  Speaker 2: home to visit family. But volcanic, anything volcanic can have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of negative energy attached to it. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: exactly sure about the quantum mechanics of all that, but
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  Speaker 2: it's it just it seems so. I actually brought home
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  Speaker 2: accidentally one time two volcanic rocks from Sunset Crater in
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  Speaker 2: Arizona when I went with a girlfriend to go to
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  Speaker 2: Sedona in the cuff of my pants and I did
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  Speaker 2: not know they were there, just i'd been hiking that
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  Speaker 2: day and uh, there's two volcanic rocks got stuck in
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  Speaker 2: the cuff of my pants. I brought them home and
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  Speaker 2: then within a few months, I'm having a psychic over
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  Speaker 2: at my home. Uh you see this here, John, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: where you are?
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  Speaker 3: You know what this right? You know what this is?
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  Speaker 3: This is this is this is Mayann pottery that I found.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna see it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got some little it's got a little it's
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  Speaker 3: got the curve in it and everything.
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  Speaker 2: It's legit. Man.
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  Speaker 3: I found this out in the middle of a cattle ranch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, in the middle of the middle of nowhere,
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  Speaker 3: putting up solar panels.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I gotta be careful about the things you
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  Speaker 3: bring back with you. And that's interesting because that was
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  Speaker 3: you didn't know that was in your Yeah, that's weird.
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  Speaker 2: She told me I had two spirits from South America.
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  Speaker 2: They were two brothers and they were always arguing with
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  Speaker 2: each other. The thing was that she did pen some things.
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  Speaker 2: I take what any psychic says, and I'm I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of one myself. I consider myself more of
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  Speaker 2: a medium or and intuitive, but I'm not don't get
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  Speaker 2: paid for readings or not trying to do that or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. I have helped people over the internet
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  Speaker 2: a few times with their paranormal problems long distance, and
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  Speaker 2: so I know if it works that way for me,
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  Speaker 2: then you know I am able to help people. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I take even what a lot of divisions I have,
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  Speaker 2: especially because this whole new simulation theory, which I have
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  Speaker 2: found proof for in my own life, I can't it's
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  Speaker 2: not proof. I can, you know, show someone else. But
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  Speaker 2: I went through a very serious pagan path and lots
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  Speaker 2: of visits from gods and goddesses, mostly goddesses, and literally
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  Speaker 2: after they that went on for about twenty years, and
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  Speaker 2: and I would notice that after most of them left me,
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  Speaker 2: there would be two weeks of what they would say
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  Speaker 2: were lessons where I was learning lessons. But after a
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  Speaker 2: while I realized they were actually loosing me, as they
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  Speaker 2: would say, just taking my adrenal energy and going away
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  Speaker 2: like and then and then I don't hear from them.
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  Speaker 2: And there was one visit from one goddess named Hecate,
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  Speaker 2: who's one of the you know, most frightening ones or
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  Speaker 2: whatever as people might think, that actually only lasted two days,
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  Speaker 2: and I actually learned a lot from it, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: still learning a lot from that visit, and so I
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  Speaker 2: give her a little bit more credit. But I actually
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  Speaker 2: told when I found out about the simulation and how
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  Speaker 2: it could be in the astra world projected created by
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  Speaker 2: star nations, certain star nations. I don't know exactly which
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  Speaker 2: ones I have guessed that I'll talk about, but I told,
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  Speaker 2: I said, I want all of you to leave my
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  Speaker 2: life forever. And I developed some strong relationships with some
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  Speaker 2: of them, especially in either there were gods or goddesses
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  Speaker 2: or they were simulations of gods and goddesses. I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't know, and I wasn't. I'm not taking
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  Speaker 2: I haven't been taking any psychedelic since I was nineteen
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  Speaker 2: and forty eight. Most of it started when I was twenty,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't dream, I don't do. Just to be clear,
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  Speaker 2: there's not I'm not putting anybody down. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: that it's not These are not psychedelically induced experiences or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. It's it's I do a little TACA
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  Speaker 2: what what, I don't know what you're talking about? What
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  Speaker 2: we call it thc America. You know that's th Usa. Yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the legal stuff. That's that's Oh. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I banished them all and they never came back to
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  Speaker 2: my life. And this was just two or three years
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  Speaker 2: ago that I did this, and they, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: totally disappeared from my life except for I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I can still contact connect with Hekata when I need to,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a different feeling with her. So maybe she's real.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the others are simulations, or maybe it is all
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  Speaker 2: one big simulation and she just happens to be real,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Or she's just a really good simulation. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. But she's the only one that didn't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she's the only one that didn't. She got my adrenals
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  Speaker 2: going one night, but she didn't. I don't feel like
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  Speaker 2: she losed a bunch of energy out of me. And
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  Speaker 2: I remember the lesson. The lesson was about peeling back
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  Speaker 2: the layers from things, and back then for me it
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  Speaker 2: was about don't turn molehills into mountains. But now it's
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  Speaker 2: like the simulation has layers. All these dimensions we live
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  Speaker 2: in are layers, so it's peeling back layers. And for
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  Speaker 2: me it's all about Now it's about getting back to
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  Speaker 2: source of energy. But I really don't want to say
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  Speaker 2: it's what what people call God or anything like. I
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  Speaker 2: really this is something different for.
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  Speaker 3: Me, that's what I use because that word is tainted.
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  Speaker 3: The word is tainted to many different things. But I
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  Speaker 3: know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it God is tainted for me, not because
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  Speaker 2: of just one God, but because of I went through
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  Speaker 2: the Christian simulation for me is what I call it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell the people that's what they're
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  Speaker 2: experiencing yet, m But it's highly possible because we have
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  Speaker 2: the ability to create many things in our minds. And
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  Speaker 2: there are some people that will call other people's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: other people crazy that are doing the same thing themselves,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and we can create religion, all the visions,
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  Speaker 2: everything can come from us, and they can be triggered
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  Speaker 2: by other beings outside of us that may or may
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  Speaker 2: not have our best interest in mine. Yeah, there's do
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  Speaker 2: you can? You can you can just go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: If anyone knows about shared psychedelic experiences will tell you that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, two people can be looking at the same
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  Speaker 3: thing on under the influence and see two different things.
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  Speaker 3: And it depends on your background and as you're saying,
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  Speaker 3: your simulation to use your wording depends on what it
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  Speaker 3: is that you see. So that's interesting, that's very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, so so so, so you go you started
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  Speaker 3: having these night terrorists. Man, let's go, let's let's walk
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  Speaker 3: into so No, don't worries, man, this is what don't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you. I mean, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: could go into a book or another or a whole
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  Speaker 2: interview about my childhood and all the things I saw.
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  Speaker 3: No, let's reach out for the reason. The reason that
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  Speaker 3: you reached out to me. So the reason that you
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  Speaker 3: reached out to me is that the first there was
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  Speaker 3: a you said, like what.
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  Speaker 2: Six paragraphs Yeah, of an email.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I glanced through it again today, and let's get
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  Speaker 3: into the first part of it. Uh, it was about
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  Speaker 3: a forty five minute We'll go ahead. Tell me about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my first encounter. So, my first encounter was actually,
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  Speaker 2: i'll just say near a place called Brown Mountain, North Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: which is known for the Brown Mountain lights. And people
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  Speaker 2: really should look that up because scientists have theories, but
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  Speaker 2: there is no logical explanation for what goes on there,
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  Speaker 2: although it does have a lot to do with plasma
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  Speaker 2: and probably geological activity. But it's not a place known
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  Speaker 2: for earthquakes. It's a place known for lights. But I've
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  Speaker 2: seen UFOs there at the Union that just you know,
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  Speaker 2: and witness them with other people plus the lights. But
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  Speaker 2: uh gosh, I forgot what I was talking about. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I had an experience there where I was out there
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  Speaker 2: watching the lights one night I was probably about thirty
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  Speaker 2: five years old, and this is Lynnville, Gorge, and I
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  Speaker 2: knocked on a tree three just because I want, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'd watch Finding Bigfoot and it always always been curious
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  Speaker 2: about the paranormal all my life, and I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a direct experience. What I had was an experience of
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  Speaker 2: like calm wind starting to blow. The calls been completely calm,
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  Speaker 2: it's a November night kind of chili. I'm sitting in
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  Speaker 2: the trees, okay, I'm not out in the parking area
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  Speaker 2: where people park or whatever. I'm over in a forest.
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  Speaker 2: And uh i'd seen maybe one one light that it
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  Speaker 2: kind of lit up red, turned white red, and then
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  Speaker 2: just went away. But I got bored, I guess, and
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  Speaker 2: I knocked on a tree three times. The wind started
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  Speaker 2: blowing from being zilt, and then I felt something behind me.
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  Speaker 2: All I can say is I felt like a spirit
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  Speaker 2: felt something behind me say don't do that again. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Uh, this is weird. And I'm one
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  Speaker 2: of these people that if there's a spirit around, under
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  Speaker 2: something else around, I'll start getting chills before I'm even
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  Speaker 2: thinking about any any such a thing. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: could be thinking about Panter or Slayer or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm walking through the woods and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: I get chills. Something's watching mites alone. Huh five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm just saying, I could be thinking about
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  Speaker 2: any any damn thing part of my language if I
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  Speaker 2: need to be careful, and then these chills will come
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  Speaker 2: over and I just know right it's a knowledge intuition
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  Speaker 2: and this maybe maybe the sixth sense, maybe seventh sense.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to try to label it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just a knowing, okay. So it's not a
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  Speaker 2: knowing like I think I know. Okay, it's not that
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  Speaker 2: kind of knowing. It's not an egotistical knowing. It's like
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  Speaker 2: I'm being watched or I'm being followed, or I need
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  Speaker 2: to react right now. And I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people know what I'm talking about that have been in
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  Speaker 2: fight or flight situations. So, uh. I grew up in
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  Speaker 2: public schools in Jackson, Mississippi, as a white kid. That
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: just I'm not at all racist. Just to be clear,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: what to say about fighting black kids moving up here
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: fighting white rednecks.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from Baltimore, man, so you know my school
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: was African Americans or whatever.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Life, I had been jumped by more than uh
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I say, more than two to three people about five
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: times by the time I.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Was, h.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: What do we are we playing? We're playing song together here,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: like dude, oh yeah, time. Well, it makes you consistently
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: hyper vigilant. Yeah. And you know, at first heavy metal
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: became I was in the Metallica my second grade Master
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: of somebody. One of my friends shared Master Puppets with me.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm hooked. That's awesome.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: You know, it took me until ninety three to start
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: to getting into metal. It took me I was twelve thirteen. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: it took me a little bit longer, man. And then
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I became a front man and a front man songwriter
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and played in a metal band, really metal bands.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, because I'm a singer song I've actually
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I played with one metal band. We did one show
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: at one pretty good bar in Asheville, North Carolina, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: then we broke up because I was floor over the drummer.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I opened for crow Bar one time. Dude, really, oh man,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I met Kurt Wednesday and all that. Dude, Yeah, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: got awful A baritone six string over there, just threw
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: some sixty two's on it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Me. Sorry, that's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, dude, yeah, life.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I went to a I went to a Striper concert
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and Michael Sweet was waving at usk one day. That's
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: about as closed as I can get to that, by
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the way, that I still they're still putting out great
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: music too, even whether you're some people are in agreement
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: with their lyrics or not, they're They're a great metal band.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I haven't really listened to Striper, but I just I
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: started getting into like Cannibal Corpse. The song is called
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Scourge of Iron.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I wasn't into Cannibal Corpse. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: love Atheist is one of the best bands I've ever heard. Atheists.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: All right, I've got to look that up. All right,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I'll look up and you'll look up. You look up, Yob,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: You look up Yob, and I'll look up Atheists.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yob? Is that Yob?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Yob psychondelic psychedelic doom metal. It's all about life and uh,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: it's very spiritual, it's but it's very Is.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: It as good as Type of Negative? There?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's my second favorite band. No, it's my second
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: favorite band. My favorite band is like, well, no, it's
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: my favorite ban excuse me. It's like job Tool Metallica,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Sugar Sugar, you know I'm sugar.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, I don't have one of their CDs
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: A friendgame, but I love Typo. Oh yeah, the Typo
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: is in my top fifteen, top twenty. I love TYPEO though, yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Type the Type of Negative is great stuff. What's like
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: there's something about his singing because I have that baritone
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: voice too. It doesn't sound like it right now, but
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I sing, I sing not quite as deep as he can.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It's Peter still in the way that he would sing
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: sing silly God and then make fun of himself. The
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: iron looks like me, but when he wanted to write
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a really a sad song. They still have so many
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: fans that there were his words just grip, especially after
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: his father passed, and and of course everything does, which
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier, and those sound like horrible songs.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That people have never listened to him. But if you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: understand the message behind it, it's it's really a lot
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: of love. This is what it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Is, and it silly to it's kind of comical in
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: a way he does it, but it's also you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: loving to death is like my favorite song is like.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a great song. It is. It was,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it was. It was written as kind of the commercial
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: hit for that album. True October Rust maybe yeah October
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Rust My girlfriend's Girlfriend was another kind of written for that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, that was kind of like their anti
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: pop pop song. Yeah, they were though, that's what they were.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to be you get into in praise
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of Bacchus and uh the other songs those are really deep.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Green Band is an amazing song. I love Green.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Have you ever like, like noticed that people who are
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: into this kind of music. I find him to be
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: like intellectually more easy to talk to or more open
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: to different concepts.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Sure or emotionally Yeah, it's hard. Not not that any
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: of us are perfect, you know, Okay, does it good
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and steer it back into the forest or as a
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: wind coming through you knocked them the thing you felt something?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry, it's my job. It's my job, buddy.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: And then what happened was is I felt something behind
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: me up on the ridge which I was on the mountain. Uh, say,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: don't do that again in my head is all I
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: can say. Just in an energy, you know, kind of
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a heavy dark energy, but not not necessarily evil. Okay,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Just to be clear, if I talk about darkness a lot,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't look at darkness as evil. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in the night out with
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: as little light as possible, and it's easier for me
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to connect with energy that way. So I can feel
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: things that are I know where sasquatches are because I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: can feel them. I don't see them all the time
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: at all. I saw them. I think I told you
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I seen them eight times in about two or three years,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and it's been about three years since I've seen them. Okay,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and none of them stick around for selfies. So for
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: all the people out there, like why don't you have
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a picture, Like, dude, you have this much time there,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: They're gone. That's it. You have to go over to
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: old crap factor first too.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, it's such a that's what people you
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: try to get into and then if you do try
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to take a picture them, they're not there in a
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: picture or there's your picture.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Well, and I'm one of these people, do that, that
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: camera's gonna be shaking in my hand. When I tried
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to get a picture of the UFO, I saw a
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: brown mountain that went up down the mountain ridge of
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the mountain for an hour and a half. And there
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: were eight other people I had never met there and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: we all witnessed that. We were all standing together talking
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: when I tried to get a picture of it. Uh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: it was raining and then it ruined my camera. So
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: it's just and then eventually what happened, it was really
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: only with I'll tell the story. Sorry, finish telling the story.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So at Brown Mountain or near near a Brown mountain
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in the Lynville Gorge area, I was at a different
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: place than the parking areas. I was in the forest.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I went back and uh, after a while, I decided
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to do three more nogs because I'm just I don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: know if I was bored or being stupid or whatever,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: but you know, humans are curious and stupid. Uh, we're
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: kind of like cats. But uh, I decided to tip
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the drink over on the counter like a cat again,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and so I knocked three more times. The wind started.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It had calmed down immediately and started blowing again at
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: this point, and then I felt something stronger say, don't
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: do that again. And then I was like okay. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: both times I sang the Cherokee Morning Song, which is
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: something I learned in the sweat lodge, and.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: It's windy windy, uh whendyeh windy when they when they yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow, And I'll sing the song. Sorry, no, I'm
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: speaking to my my young girlfriend. You know this song. Okay,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: she knows it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cherokee Morning the Cherokee Morning Song, and uh,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you gotta go, you gotta go sing too, okay, okay,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: So so you sing the song. What happens after that, buddy?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And that was just a version. That was my version
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of it. By the way, I'm not trying to pretend
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: to be Cherokee or that I'm scott Irish as far
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: as I know, and not anything beyond that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's okay, Oh, worry about it, man. The
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: thing is they don't always have to put in these
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: like little to express yourself.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Well that's with the name brother, little Foot and things
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: like people get I want to say he thinks she's native,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and like, no, man, I've I've gone out and met
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: some Cherokee people and we ended up having long, great conversations,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: uh and just seemed to connect on a lot of
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: ideas about okay are But there's one fellow that there's
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a white guy that leads a sweat lodge. He's La
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Cota trained and there he actually is asked. He's my
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: mentor spiritually. He's also an Air Force veteran that was
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: abductor and he's who I call when I have issues
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: with things because I don't have to pay him any money.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He's a friend. He likes to hear the stories. He's
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: in his seventies now. But sorry, but uh, I sang
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that song both times, and that was when the wind
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: call and everything calm back down. So after that second
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: time I did it, that was it. I was like, Okay,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm one of these people that's like, I'm very curious,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: but also don't want to offend anything that is uh good,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: even if I even if that's not the vibe I'm
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: getting or whatever, you know, I just just it's just
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: in my heart, like you know, you don't. I don't
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: want to kill any animals. I'm not eating you know
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying that kind of thing. That it's just
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: that's it's not in my heart. My heart is. It
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: feels like I'm turning against my heart to do certain things.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: But that was my I believe that was my first
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: encounter because I actually went back after I had what
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I call my first encounter, went back to that same
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: place and said, you're here, aren't you? And they were
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: knocking in all kinds and I took them apples and
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: they were Yeah, they were full balls to the wall
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and camping with sasquatch who might be off air for now,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: but he went with me. And it's he didn't we
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: didn't put it on camera or anything like that. That's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: another thing I'll get to, but uh, he had experiences
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: with me there more than an. I said, do you
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: feel like we experienced sasquatch here? He's like, oh yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, you know they're definitely here. Kind of thing
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: because you learn how to feel them. But uh, anyway, Uh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I ended up going to a place that the Cherokee
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: talked about, closer to home, closer to Cherokee, North Carolina
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and Uh, it's off a major road. I'll just say
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: it's off a major road that runs through the mountains.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are aware of that. I just
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: don't really want to name it. I named it in
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the letter, but I'd rather just yes, down, I know
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: where you are, basically, I know where you are. Basically. Yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm right on the edge of the Great Smoking Mountains
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: National Park. I'm right here in the middle of it
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: all out west of Nashville Asheville. I'm exactly west of
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Ashley about a couple I got your buddy, but uh, anyway,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I was out of the place one night. I had
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: said a prayer to my friend Scott his uh deceased wife.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Her name I can say her name. Her name was Paige.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: She was a fairly well known psychic and definitely author,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and she channeled or worked with a being called Albion,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and she did a lot of great readings about the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: stars and connections, and she talked about changes that were
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: happening in the Great Smoking Mountains, like she wrote a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: book called the Spiritual Reawakening of the Great Smoking Mountains,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I believe. And anyways, I actually prayed to her before
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I went out to that place. That night, I said,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: help me to see these star people. God, I had
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: already seen a lot at this place near Cherokee, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: these lights have died down. They're not there so much anymore.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: And just to be clear, if people become aware of
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the place I'm talking about, there's a place where you
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: can see cars driving through across the mountain and there's
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that pull up and they like
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: to see those car lights, so like, oh, wow, that's
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the lights. That's the lights. Like, no, dude, that you know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I even made that mistake for a while. But this
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: place before the Sasquatch experience, probably I was going there
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: two or three years before that, which is what had
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: kind of led me back to Brown Mountain, Okay, because
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I had been going to Brown Mountain a few times
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: before to see the lights. And the first time I
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: saw the lights at this place, it was still evening,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the sun was still, it was setting. I was looking
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: west and it was setting over the mountain or just set.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And there was a Native woman, a Native apart Native woman.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: She was she said she was not Cherokey after I
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: talked to her, but she was yelling at the mountains,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like just screaming not angry, but just like ooh, you know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: just loud. A lot of name people know what when
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: they hear that, like, oh yeah, I know that one.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And she said watch over there when I screamed, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I said okay. And every time she did that, it
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: looked like a bonfire, like a white bonfire kept lighting
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: up in the mountain. I was like, holy, what is this?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: You know we're talking can this This was had to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: be three or four miles away from where we were looking,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, watching, but it was big enough. I'm not stupid,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you know, I can size things up in the sky
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and kind of guess distance and estimate size and those things.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: But every time she would scream, it would respond, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no I mean, nobody could even use
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: a flashlight and do that at that time of day.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: There was no explanation. It was not car lights. It
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: was over further over to the left from the road,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and uh, excuse me, and I actually, uh oh no.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: She she told me what I said. I said, can
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I can you help me see lights? And then that's
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: when she said watch when I scream and she I
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: was like, well, okay, that's awesome, thank you. And then
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and she did a couple more times, she said, all right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I've got to go, and we had a brief conversation.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I don't remember much what was said, but as soon
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: as she pulled out of there, this frigging big it
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: looked like a job a blue fire. I'm gonna guess
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the smallest it had to be thirty to fifty feet tall, okay.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: And and my thought at the time, and my thoughts
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: have changed on this definitely, but was that is that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: an angel? I really didn't know what else to think.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: It was like it was like a white It was
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: a bluish white fire that was surrounded by that blue
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: light blue out outline color. Okay, like sky blue almost
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and uh huh. And this thing was very tall and
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: kind of uh in horticulture and horticultures we call it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a columnar type plant, you know shape collum call them
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: tight shape, but more of the tear drop almost, And
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: it's thirty to fifty feet tall. It pops up out
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of the trees and goes down the ridge line until
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: it goes behind the mountain that's in front of me.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Because there's a small mountain in front of me, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I couldn't see it, and I'm like just completely blown
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: away by us still this day, and even talk about
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: these things again, because I forget about him, I'll talk
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: about them. You're like, you re live. You're like yes,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: And I mean it's just like sasquatch this, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: dog man that what was that? You know what I mean?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: If there's anything, I'm.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Just like, you know, remember out there, I always remember,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: offense is taken, not given. Yeah, people like to be
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: offended by a lot of things. And just because people
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: are offended doesn't mean they're right. Yeah, yeah, dude, yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: just if you do it in good faith, then you
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: know that you're doing it with your heart. And if
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: you're speaking from your heart, yeah, someone it takes offense
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: from it. That's on them, man. You know, if they
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: say something, then you can try to fix the situation.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Don't worries, man, It's okay.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well this kind of also leads at some point.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: It's going to lead into portals UFOs. I've seen portals
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: open up in the sky, and I like, my, you know,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: people have a heart time believing this. I feel the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: same way. I feel the exact same way you do.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Any skeptic out there, I'm like in my mind is
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: just it's it's shaken, it's blown open and right because
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: you're having that economy of like I just shouldn't be here,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: but I did see it. So now what do I do? Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm not witnessing. I'm not witnessing these things alone.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: If if only Sasquatch is with me, I still have
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: a witness, you know, or if I'm with them, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and and and that's something that's just personal, you know
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: what I mean, you know, because people are gonna believe
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: what they want. But uh, later on at that same
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: place that I'm not naming, Uh, after I've been there
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: for two or three years, I would just get it
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: became my second home. I've been through a hard breakup.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: It was it was only a year and a half relationship,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: but I thought it was definitely the woman I was
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be with her family and up robbing me of
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: my life savings, and which I don't think had to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: do with hers. They were drug addicts and they weren't
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: supposed to know where I lived and all this other stuff.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so I was aloof for about two or
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: three years before my first real encounter, and so I
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: guess in a way. I was kind of searching, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: at some point it just became about just I just
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: liked going out there and sitting away from people and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: sitting out in business and every now and then other
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: like mostly Cherokee at that time. Now a lot of
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: people different people come through, but other people would come
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: through and I would just end up having good conversations
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: with them and h But I was on my way
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: out there one night. It was August second, twenty twenty.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It was the night I think right after or two
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: nights after a full moon. So this could be looked
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: up as far as those things go, that I remember
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: these details. I first went to go meet a family
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: at another place right before that place on the same road,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: because i'd been out there a night or two and
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I saw the most unusual little animal in the thought
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: it was complete. When it gets foggy up on the mountains,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you're standing in a cloud, you know there's there's you're
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: not even with headlights, you're not gonna see more than
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: ten or twenty feet and you're only gonna see what's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: in the light. You know you're not gonna see anything
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: beyond that. So if you if you've ever flown in
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: a cloud, you know, it's kind of like that. But right, right,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: so I'm part and I'm in this area and I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: trying to connect with paranormal things. This little animal walks
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: up to me. It could have been somebody's dog or cat,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: is the way I look at it. Very small, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: it would stay only like six six to eight feet
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: from me, no matter how close I tried to get
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to it. But it wasn't really jumpy, it wasn't like
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: super hyper vigilant. And a few times it actually sat
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: down and looked like it appeared to me they crossed
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: its palls, and I'm like, it has to be a
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: human's animal. That has to be a human's dog or cat,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing else that it has to be.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: So I'd posted on Facebook, excuse me, that I would
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: like for somebody to come up there and meet me,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: or that I saw an animal up there, you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and I would like somebody to come up there and
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: meet me. I don't have Facebook page anymore. Uh meet
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: me up there? And uh this woman and her two daughters.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: She was white, and she had two adopted Cherokee daughters,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: which was really interesting, and they were teenage adolescent and
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: They ended up coming up meet me there the next night,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: which would have been August second, and there was no
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: animal there, and I felt terrible. I tried to catch
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the animal a few times, but I with animals, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: when you're trying to catch a stray animal, you have
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to be slow and gentle. And you know what I mean,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: because what kind of trauma they've been through. The Yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and I and I'll try to rescue animals and things
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: like that when I can and when I'm able to.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: So this is all So, this is all like, so
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you're saying, like a lot of what you're.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Experiencing or have experienced as Native American ties to it
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, dude, I'm I mean, I'm right here in Cherokee.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: And the thing is is I was told that Cherokee
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: were masked on this land that I live on. I've
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: had three different intuitive people come and tell me that
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: someone is buried on your land and there's a big
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: mound that goes up right behind my home. Okay, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: they did not know each other. These three people did
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: not know each other, and they all said people are
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: buried here, people are buried here. And the farmer across
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the road told me that they found lots of arrowheads
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: and pottery at one time. Those mountains are interesting though.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Those mounds are very interesting because it's more of like
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a there's like a giant crystal that kind of leads
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: into the mound. So why would they not bury someone there?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: It's a massive, dude. When I'm talking to crystal in
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: my front yard and it doesn't it appears like a boulder,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: or it's got plants growing, it's got trees on top
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: of it. Do this, I geomant's the boulder itself?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: What is a crystal? I'm sorry, man, what's what do
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: you what are you saying? Crystal? Crystal, crystal in the ground.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like like quartz, like all different kinds
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: of quartz. Okay. And even my friend broke off a
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: piece of it. He said, man, do you know you
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: got some rose quartz out there? And I'm like, oh wow, okay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And but there's actually there's a creek that runs out here,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and I found when I got to the Geomancy, which
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: is another story, I found all kinds of crystals, purple, green, citrine.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I guess green might be topaz, purple b amothist uh,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and a few others. They're not like I can cut
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: them up and you know, they're so clean, I could
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: make jewelry out of them. It wasn't like that. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: was like, I can use these for geomancy. So uh,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I'm also a witch. And I know a lot of
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: people are like, oh, well he's worships devil or blah
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: blah blah. No, I do not serve any gods or
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: goddesses at all. I do not serve. I do not
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: work that way. I believe we are source energy. I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: believe we are what a lot of people call God.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I know people get offended by that. I still remember
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Shirley McLean and out on a limb, standing on the beach,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: going I am God, I am I'm like this new
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: age garbage, you know. So I think we are. The
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: way I look at is that I am just a
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: part of the source energy. It's within me.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: It's within me as well as the person next to me.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And there's like a like you're saying, you're telling me
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: like about peeling back the layers. There's like these these
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: walls or or this inability to see your connection with that,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: and a lot of it is a lot of it is,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: you know, we've been kind.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Of conduced or meant to a certain way to be
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: at comes in. Yeah, well, however you want a word it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of wording that we're using too, you know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: like words are also people don't realize that words are
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: basically like some type of power too, Like they they
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: are symbols that are represented. We say with our mind,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: we say with our mouth, and then you interpret it
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: a certain way. So there's a lot, like we were
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: talking about the word God kind of having like a
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: lot of weight on it. Even the words simulation has
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: something attached to it. Oh yeah, as the words come out,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: those who are that want has come out.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: When we say the word simulation, people automatically think he
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: probably believes the earth is plant right to begin with.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: And I don't know that. I don't no offense to
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: anyone who does. That's not what this is about. People
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: can believe whatever they want to believe. And that's part
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: of what this is about, because we can do whatever
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the world that we won't do in our mind. And
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: until something comes along to break cognitive dissonance, that's what's
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: real to us, you know. And and I just happen
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: to have a lot of experience at a young age,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: and I know there's other people out there that too,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: lots of other people that made me who I am today,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: and I don't just Sam Seaman. I never went to
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a weekend retreat. I never paid any money. I went
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: through a lot of blood, sweat and tears to earn
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was nine different medicines overall, from good
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: good water. Cayote medicine was the biggest one. Then there
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: was actually sasquatch medicine, which almost made me throw up
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: when I was But let me get to the first starry.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Let me get the first encounter. Not that you're stopping me.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: So I went met the family up there, or the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: lady and her to adopted daughters, and they we could
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: not find any animal. It was not foggy that night.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: He cleared up see the moon. And then I went
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to the other spot down the road where people we'd
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: watched for star people, and there were several times there
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I'd heard trees fall in calm weather. And I'm a horticulturist.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I can tell you why and how a tree falls
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: if I can investigate it, okay, or I can be
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: within three reasons of why it happened, even to the
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: point of knowing that sometimes it doesn't happen as much here,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: but sometimes it gets really cold and water freezes inside
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of trees and causes them to explode, so they'll break
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: in half, or they'll just have an explosion like a
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: broken point in the middle of them and just be
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the other top path tree to just be sitting on
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the trunk right there. Because you know, water expands when
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: it freezes, so I know in past, I know past
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: bars bars are boring. People may not understand why I'm
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: saying that, but because I have a Mississippi mumble. Sorry,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: but they bore through the tree. And are you telling
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: me you're the you're the new eminem Mississippi? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people from there have it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: My teacher at the community college up here.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Do you hear?
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: What do you hear? Baltimore, Babel, I already know what
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. Oh my dad, where you're from?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: By the way you talk, I kind of missed the Yeah,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I kind of separated because, you know, living in Europe
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: for twenty years and I haven't lived in America since
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: two thousand and two, so I lived in Europe for
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: a long time, so I kind of developed a more
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: like right down the middle, you know, like maybe a
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: radio type voice, and I kind of sloughed off kind
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: of the some of the Baltimore ease, which we have.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: You can look it up, guys. So but it's it,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: but there is a Baltimore Babbel for sure. Did you
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: did you enlist around nine to eleven? I enlisted before
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: nine to eleven. Oh wow, okay, I listed whatever whatever
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that is. Thank You're welcome. I don't know, it's always
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: just you. There's gonna be other veterans out there list.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: It makes feel comfortable and think I did put it
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: display man. I did what I had to do because
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I wanted to do it, you know what I mean.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: So it now whether people want to thank me for
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: it or not, that's up to them. And it's always weird.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to thank you, and it's a weird
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: feeling that that I have. But it's like, yeah, it's.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Well knowing that we know about what we know about
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: government and people. You know, young people don't look at
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: all the aspects of things when they're listing, and a
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: lot of you guys come back with PTSD you don't
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: deserve because you really didn't know what you were going
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to do and nobody was ever clear on it. And
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I was in the certaince during nine to eleven.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I was actually out at uh Fort Irwin, California when
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: it happened, but I actually went down range as they
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: call it, or I went to uh the coast.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Of o conflict. That's where I was. That's that's how
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: old I am. So yeah, you're you're I think two
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: years older than me. So oh really wow?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah you said you were forty eight, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: so you're born in seventy seven, yeah, eight, Yeah, I'm
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: born in eighty yeah eighty So.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, you're still next oh right there
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: on the edge, bro. Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: And it's like we're it's so much different than the
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: people before. It's like you shouldn't say that because it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: just rude or it's mean. And now they're like you
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: should say, like you've hurt my feelings, man, come on,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: hurt my feelings. We're like, you know what up yours?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for me, I'll still if I'll still
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: stand my ground at the drop of the down. Let's
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: just say that. Yeah, I'm only hundred I'm only people
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: don't I'm only one hundred and seventy five pounds. I'm lean,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: but I mean if I have to be. And I
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: don't mean that like I'm bragging because I don't feel
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: proud of it or anything like that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Six foot three, two five, that's what I Yeah, I'm
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: a big guy, but I got my but my back
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: is shaped like a banana because of the military. Yeah yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: but I do get a little bit of compensation from
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: them monthly, so they but I had to fight, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I'm still fighting with them for other things that you
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: were just talking about. But it's it's just something I did, man,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: It's like, but I got a lot of experience out
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: of it. I got I'm speaking languages and living all
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: over the world because of it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: So it's all. It's all good, man, It's all good.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Like people just always feel like it's like, you know, oh,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: life is so hard, but like you know, a lot
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: of times you just got to like put one front
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: in front of the other and move forward and fucking
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: realize that it's going to be something that you always
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: have to do, and then you then you all have
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: It'll be a lot easier for it.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Then you get my father was hammock. Yeah, yeah, my father.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: My father picked cotton and says he was five. He
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: was forty or forty one when they had me. And
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: he's a preacher. So but uh and I was the third,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the third child. I have three children, and uh, he
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: just he he never had because he was a preacher.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Partly he's the KKK. In the early nineteen sixties in Mississippi,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Johnson Chapel, Mississippi, he preached to the church there and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: they were going around burning crosses in people's yards and
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: him and another friend just went behind him and put
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: out the crosses, threw him in the back of the truck,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: went and burned him in the pile. And then and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying like this was a major faction to
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the KKK, but it was a small part of the
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: KKK regardless. Brokay Well, my father dared him, He said,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: if you got a problem, come get us. And all
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: they had was one shotgun between the two of them,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: and and they never You know, there's several times my
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: father has had to stand his ground. He would we'd
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: be sitting in a restaurant and there'd be some big
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: biker cussing behind him or something. He'd turned around and say,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: did your daddy teach you to talk like that? And
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: like like stand up. And it was a couple of
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: times where a couple of big guys almost stood back
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: up to him, but then they kind of back down
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: because everybody's looking at him and like, you're really going
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: to say something to that for that old man and uh,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: and they'd be like okay, you know. And in the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of times he would end up making friends
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: with people like that, so where they'd be playing golf
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: together and they'd be knowing other preacher's gonna be playing with, Say, dang,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I can't cuss today. No, you can't cuss today, you know.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: But they respect because it's more important that you don't
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: play golf. I don't get it at all.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll go out there and have a beer
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: and hit a bucket of balls, but that'll be about it, dude,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So anyway, so let's let's
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: let's go ahead, let's steer it back into the if
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: you don't mind, do worry about its conversation. Yeah, people
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: like things to be direct and kurt and all that,
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: and it just doesn't work that way sometimes, and sometimes
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: you just have to let the guests speak. And some
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: people out there are like, you need to be quiet
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: more and be more like this person. It's like, I'm
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: going to be me, dude, and you can just change
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: the channel.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Remember gone down one hundred different bunny trails already. But
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: uh so, after looking for that animal with those that
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: family and not being able to find it, I thanked
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: them for coming up and and you know we're not successful.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Drove down the road to go watch lights that night.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: As I'm driving out there, I actually said a prayer.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Uh the spirit what I call spirit source whatever, and
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the great Spirit is is a good word. And I
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: love wi spread Panics song the Spirit that moves in
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: all things, the Spirit that moves in all things. I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: like that explanation. You know they're not a metal band,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: by the way, but you've probably heard of them by
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: this time. I like that. I like that, I like
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: the I like the I like Journeys Wheel in the Sky. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: that's a great song that's in that in that based
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: on the Bible story, I think, Ezeki, I have no idea.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I have no idea to teach me on that I
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: don't know. But anyways, uh so I drove down there
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: and as I'm praying, I said to Page, I'm not
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: praying to her like God. I'm just talking. Prayer is conversation.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: It's considered conversation with God or whatever, but prayer is
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: conversation with spirit, and everyone is, you know, part of
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: spirit the way I in my understanding, and I said,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: could you help me see star people? And then as
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I was getting out of my car something, I said,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: could you help me see it? Help me have an
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: experience with Bigfoot or Kryptids? Because people were starting to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: tell me they were there. I had heard probably I'm
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: going to say three to seven trees pushed down while
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I was there in completely calm weather before I had
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: my first encounter, and I'd had a large branch snapped
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: right behind me on a calm night that was clearly
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: full of green leaves and not dead at all thirty
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: feet up. But anyways, this night I went out there
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: and I decided to do two knocks. So there's a
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: wooden sign out there. I went out there, took a
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: piece of wood and hit that sign two times. A
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: little bit here after, what's that? Sorry? And then after
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: so it was breaking up a little bit of something.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, right, and then after that it took
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: about twenty minutes. Sorry, I do numbers of my fingers
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: a lot because that's actually how I talk to Sasquatches.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: So if I'm trying to say days, like if I
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: say two weeks, I'm saying that's ten four sons, I'll
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: say suns instead of days. And that's just you know,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: now they know days. When I say years, I say winters,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: and I always say one extra winter, you know, to
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: include all the years, so it's fifteen years, sixteen winters.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: But I've kind of explained all that to them now
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: because that's how they understand certain English words. But that's
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: how they understand it, you know, whether they're getting a
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: visual and emotional connection. And I've kind of learned that
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: they may not always understand me as much as I
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: think they do recently, and that's been kind of hard
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: to you know, be like, oh man to accept. But anyways,
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: this night, I did two knocks. Twenty minutes after I
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: did two knocks just around the parking ere. I was
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: in the trees, branches and everything. It sounded like they
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: were flying everywhere, but I wasn't really seeing anything. I mean, crash,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: trash thing, bang, boom, boom, just throwing bomb bang bang,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: just everywhere around me. Okay, and I'm more curious than
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I am afraid. Okay, probably probably to my detriment. At
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: some point. I'm used to facing black bears with harmonicas
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and not carrying a gun if I don't have to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: so and it works, you know, I mean, like face
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: to face, right clest, blowing them with harmonica then things
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: are gone, no weapon needed, and not even I'm not
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: even afraid because I know these things. You know, we
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: don't have grizzly bears. We don't have it. We just
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: have black They can get pretty big. But we didn't
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: get six hundred pounds here, but I've heard eight hundred.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: But that's pushing it. But anyways, I was out there
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and I did the two knocks, and then twenty minutes later,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: all this banging and crashing starts happening around me. Nothing
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: is coming at me, okay, so nothing is trying to
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: hurt me at this point, but I'm scaredish and I
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: totally forgot about doing those two knocks at that point, right,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So like that went out in my mind, and I'm like,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: what the f is going on here? And I ended
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: up turning away from the lookout area over the mountains
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: and looking at the ridge behind me, and I had
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: a I think it was a five thousand, maybe twenty
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: five hundred llomin flashlight that I was shine and everywhere
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: these sounds were happening and they would make more sound
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: and I would be yelling at it. I was yelling
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: at it as if it were an animal, like go away,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: because I would usually hear something and yell at a
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: little bit and then it's like it went away, or
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: maybe it was them and they got quiet, but excuse me,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: And I was yelling at it, go away, go the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: you know, just and I'm a singer. I can yell
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: like hell if I want to, and I can do
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: a perfect ohio, how as perfect as a human can
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: get to it. And I mean I can make it
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: last for about a minute, you know. And so I'm
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: using my voice. That's what I use when I'm out
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: in the forest more than anything if I need to
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: to protect myself, and I can't protect myself from humans
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: as most but definitely animals and the light. And at
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: some point, so this goes on for that part of
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: it started at about ten twenty and then at about
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: ten forty five. This has going on for that long.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: I've at this point, I've turned my car around towards
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: the exit, and I'm standing in my door with the
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: keys in my hand, pointing my light up at the
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: ridge behind the overlook, and I'm like, you know, ah
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: uh oh what. I feel like I could be killed
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: at any minute. I feel like something could come crashing
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: on my car. I felt a voice say to me
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: in my head just like that one time. And I'm
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be clear that I do not believe in a
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: lot of mind speak, Like even now, I'm not really
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: into mind speak. When I talk to Sasquatches, I ask
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: them yes or no questions and let them knock back
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: to me means yes. If they make no sound or
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: it goes quiet, you know, then that means no or
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: they don't know one or the other. And I'll ask
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: three times that that's how we do recordings, because you
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: can't get mine speak on recording, you know, So that's
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: that's it's worthless. Plus, I believe human minds can be
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: terribly polluted a lot of the time, and it's really
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: hard channelings. All that is kind of kind of bees
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: to me. It's not that it's not real, it's just
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: that you're gonna get a lot of human pollution in there,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: you know, from the own mind and h And that's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: just how I feel about it personally. I'm not really
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: trying to put one down or anything like that. But
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I felt him say to me, I could kill you
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: if I want to, but I really don't want to
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: hurt you. And you mind you They've been watching me
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: for two or three years by now. Come up there
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: at night, okay, And as soon as I felt that,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I turned off. I think I
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: did turn off my light because it was a bright moon,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: so I didn't really need it. And I started singing.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I sang three songs. I sang the Cherokee Morning Song,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I sang Amazing Grace, and I sang A Change is
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Gonna Come by Sam Cook, and not the whole song,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: but most of it. And they stopped, all of the
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: activity completely stopped while I was singing those three songs.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I wish I had a recording of this. I just
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: never thought to have an audio recording with me at
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the time, you know, I never thought this would happen,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: especially what it's turned into. And they they as soon
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: as I stopped singing, they started thrashing and bashing and
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: banging around me all over again. Okay, so we're looking
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: at about this start at ten twenty pm. Then it's
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: roughly about eleven or ten fifty five. Sorry, I yelled
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: up at him. I said, hey, I'm if anything, I'm not,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm not your enemy. If anything, I'm your friend.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I said, please, I said a couple other things, So
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: please don't run me away from my favorite place, because
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I had just come to love that place. And they
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: got completely quiet for two minutes. And after that I
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: heard I don't know if you heard that, but that
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: was not and it was the same exact knocks I
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: had made when I got there, and I felt like
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: they were saying, and you can stay, but don't you
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: with my family. You watch for your star people and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: let us be. And I said, okay, I think I'm
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: the only person that has a story that has been
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: able to withstand to stand off of sasquatches. Not that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I you know, it was like say it all beat
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: you up, and blah blah blah. I didn't have a
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: gun or anything, and wasn't thinking to that. I don't
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: want to hurt anything.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: But uh, it's very interesting. So they're basically saying that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: they acknowledge that they're star people.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, basically, I mean it was just more of
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: a It wasn't words that came to my head. It
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: was just a feeling of you can stay, you know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: like it was and that was kind of my feeling.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Go back to what you were doing, what you come
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: out here for, and leave us be okay, And and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: I did. I did, And I stayed for probably two
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: or three hours after that, and they were they were quiet. Wow.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: So if if you don't mind, uh, John, if it's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: okay with you, we can we could we possibly maybe
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: pick this up at another time.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be okay to pick this up at another time. Yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: We keeping track. I was like, oh, I hope we
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: get there. But we got there. Man. It's just that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: you're just explaining yourself. It takes time.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Takes time. You're trying to set a setting and the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: reason why you do the things the way you do,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: and a lot of people are just you know, how
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: you're talking about the pollution of the mind. You know,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: people like get through it, and it's like, yeah, that's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Subtlety is a part of the experience. I mean, like
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: when a person is telling you their story, you have
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: to sit and listen. You have to and don't don't
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: don't take it, don't take a person at all. It's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: just you know, we're here, and that's a really cool
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: beginning and it's a really great place to pick it
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: up next time.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: If it's okay with you. Yeah, yeah, well let me
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: add three things to it real quick. Sure. The next
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: night I went up there and I literally looked at
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: that backbridge and said, I couldn't see anything. I just
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: see trees. I said, I don't know if you know
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: it or not, but you made a friend, or if
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: you wanted to or not. But you made a friend,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: whether you like it or not. And then I heard
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: a panther up there. That uh that second night, I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: was up there screaming. I actually thought I was hearing
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to go because I didn't know what a panther sounded like.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: And there was a story of a screaming woman there,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: which is probably what people are actually hearing, is that panther.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I later saw that panther a few years, about four
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: years after that. But uh, anyways, I just wanted to
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: add those little tidbits to this story because it goes on.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: It got where I was, and this is all within
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: the Cherokee Cherokee Nation area. Is that you're telling me, Yeah,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: it's it's between here, and we'll say it's between there
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: in Nashville. But I gotta make a narrative of this
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: when I go. When you get into it, they're interdimensional
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: beings and you can go to any forest or trees
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: and connect with them. There's not a hot spot, you know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: there's only hot spots where people have had more experiences
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and more encounters. But it doesn't mean that. I mean,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: anyone can go anywhere to the forest and trees if
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: they choose to and make a connection with them. But
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: be ready because you you're interacting with another people, a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: different culture, an ancient culture. And yeah, and I'm worrying.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to get to, is like
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: I just went through a struggle with them, but I'm
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: learning what's going on. Dude. I had I had UFOs
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: talked to me last night, and I mean I asked
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: some questions. I asked them make a light, and then
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: they made lights these are not This was not a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: shooting star. They used shooting stars because if you have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: to imagine how it would be able to create a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: shooting star if you were an alien. It's not that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: hard to make a rock levitate and toss it that
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: way and then it goes to their's atmosphere and burns.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: But they actually flash lights.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: And they'll be stationary and instead of going north, south, east,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: west or whatever, start to fade away upwards into the sky. Right.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: And I am in the the Sasquatches here through yes
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: and no questions, say those are our star brothers and sisters.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Some are good, some are not so good. But I said,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: or they I've shown them TV here they sit. They've
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: sat across the road and watched TV here on a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: fifty five inch screen. And I played in the movie
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Thor among other Marvel movies. They know who Wolverine is,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: you know, spider Man. It's hilarious. Uh. And I said,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: do they look like Thor? Because that would be the Nordics.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Do they all look like Thor? They all beautiful, tall, blonde,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: you know, handsome. I'm not gay. I'm just saying, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: just what enough against that. But it's not necessary, not
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: necessary to say, but well, what I'm trying to say
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: is they're they're the Nordics. They're tall, beautiful blonde people,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: and they all wear sky blue robes and the sasquatcher.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah every time. And that's who
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: we're talking to in the sky. And then that will
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: lead into the geomancy I ended up. We'll get we'll
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: get all that, we'll get, we'll get into next time.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I want to get back.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I want to get into your kind of it's kind
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: of a we're doing a prequel to what's coming up
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: next to John.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to do another interview with me,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: that would be all. We will do that. But get
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: it gets.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely that's this is a precursor be part one
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: and uh, you're just kind of basically doing the prequel
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: to what is now being or transpiring.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Around your your your residence. Right. So, so thank you
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: so much for coming on, buddy, thank you for having me.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Man pleasure think of your professionalism.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. I try. Well, well, well we'll
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: see what happens. And I've never known too many bad
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: guys named Tom so uh out there. Uh all right, guys.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoyed that episode. We are the I,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: we are aware, and I love you all.