Latest / Classic Metal Show / ROGER WATERS VS JAMES HETFIELD?
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- 0:14SPEAKER_01: It is except right here on your classic metal show with Princess of the Dawn.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: Going out by request to Chuck from North Carolina.
- 0:22SPEAKER_01: Deep Purple in there with Call of the Wild for Jackal.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: Judas Priest with Sinner for Roger.
- 0:29SPEAKER_01: KK's Priest with Sons of the Sentinel for The Immobilizer.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: Ted Nugent in there with Tied Up in Love for Skippy.
- 0:37SPEAKER_01: And kicking that block off, we heard Wasp with The Flame for Scarfoot.
- 0:42SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so a block of classic metal for sure.
- 0:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was good.
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was a good block.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: So that brings us to the final hour of the classic metal show.
- 0:54SPEAKER_01: This one flew by as usual.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: It always flies by.
- 0:59SPEAKER_03: This is a lot quicker than even most weeks.
- 1:02SPEAKER_03: I mean, I looked up in there because I've been messing around trying
- 1:06SPEAKER_03: to figure out how I'm going to
- 1:08SPEAKER_02: distribute this show.
- 1:10SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:11SPEAKER_02: And so I was in there messing with it, and I looked at the clock.
- 1:15SPEAKER_02: I was like, holy shit, we're like done.
- 1:17SPEAKER_02: We're done.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: We've got 50 minutes.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:22SPEAKER_02: Let me turn the cut off.
- 1:23SPEAKER_02: This is not the cut.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: I had the cut graphic on the screen that everybody else sees.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
- 1:30SPEAKER_03: Can't have that.
- 1:32SPEAKER_03: If I would pay attention instead of being in the fucking chat room all the time.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: You're being a social fella.
- 1:38SPEAKER_01: You're...
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: Rubbing elbows with the people who pay the bills.
- 1:42SPEAKER_02: I am.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: I'm talking to the various folks about interviews and blah,
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: blah, blah, you know, stuff that we're doing, stuff that we're done.
- 1:51SPEAKER_02: I always love it.
- 1:51SPEAKER_02: And Professor Tor brought this up.
- 1:53SPEAKER_03: And I'm giving him credit, but this is just an in general credit.
- 1:59SPEAKER_03: I love it when I do something like an interview that is not a mainstream interview
- 2:06SPEAKER_03: and somebody digs it.
- 2:08SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 2:09SPEAKER_03: It's easy for me to interview Judas Priest or K.K.
- 2:13SPEAKER_03: Downing or Phil Anselmo or whatever.
- 2:15SPEAKER_03: And people are like, holy shit, that's fucking great.
- 2:18SPEAKER_03: You know, that's easy.
- 2:20SPEAKER_03: But Professor Torres in here talking about Frozen Crown.
- 2:25SPEAKER_03: And like most people don't know who Frozen Crown is.
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: And just that makes me happy.
- 2:32SPEAKER_03: You know, that makes me happy because it makes it worth doing.
- 2:36SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 2:37SPEAKER_03: That I...
- 2:38SPEAKER_03: For better or for worse, I'm reaching bands that are connecting with other people.
- 2:44SPEAKER_03: And maybe that'll help people that would like it find it.
- 2:47SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's the only reason I do the interviews.
- 2:49SPEAKER_03: It's not about me.
- 2:50SPEAKER_03: It's really about promoting
- 2:52SPEAKER_02: different shit.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: But, you know, just made me feel like a fag even admitting it, but it made me feel good.
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: Well, there's nothing wrong with having people acknowledge your achievements.
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: I'm supposed to be angry and an asshole, man.
- 3:06SPEAKER_03: Don't you know that?
- 3:07SPEAKER_01: You know what the thing is?
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: It's just, you know, I'm proud of this show.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: I'm proud of what we do.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: And the pride of the show will be available in book form.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking it's probably going to be late November, early December.
- 3:24SPEAKER_01: I got an email from our co-author,
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: and he said he will be done with final edits at the end of this month.
- 3:34SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 3:35SPEAKER_01: So that's where that's at.
- 3:37SPEAKER_01: So it's going to take at least a month to get things organized and get it in print
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: and all that fun shit.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: So I'm thinking end of November, first part of December, just in time for Christmas.
- 3:50SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 3:51SPEAKER_01: Nice Christmas gift.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: So that's what's going on with the book.
- 3:56SPEAKER_01: But anyway, this brings us to the last segment of the show.
- 4:03SPEAKER_03: Fucking Ben Benjamin.
- 4:04SPEAKER_03: Chris, that was kind of gay.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: Oh, and speaking of being gay.
- 4:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: For those of you who are, you know, watching us on the Rumble.
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 4:17SPEAKER_01: Would you please hit the thumbs up button?
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: I think what we need two more to
- 4:22SPEAKER_03: make 40.
- 4:22SPEAKER_03: To make 40.
- 4:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 4:24SPEAKER_03: I like to get between 30 and 40 every week.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:27SPEAKER_01: So if you could.
- 4:28SPEAKER_03: Three more.
- 4:28SPEAKER_03: Three more?
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: Mine is showing 38 on my end.
- 4:34SPEAKER_03: Oh, somebody unfollowed.
- 4:36SPEAKER_03: Can you do that?
- 4:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you can un-thumb, I guess.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: Can you?
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- 4:51SPEAKER_01: Well, anyway, if you could do that for us, that'd be very kind.
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: It only takes you a click.
- 4:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 4:57SPEAKER_02: And you're already on the page.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your click of the mouse.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 5:02SPEAKER_01: Because I know we got over about 140 people watching us right now.
- 5:08SPEAKER_01: So I think,
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: one of you 140 people out there could at least click on
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: that thumbs up button down there.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, pal.
- 5:17SPEAKER_02: That's all we're asking.
- 5:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're not out here begging for super chats.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: No, just a click, a thumbs up.
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- 5:26SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: So what do you got for us here?
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: One of the topics on our splash page there was also Roger Waters and your buddy James Hetfield.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: So what's all that about?
- 5:39SPEAKER_01: You're not aware of this thing?
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: Well, I saw this floating around and I didn't read it.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to get into it because I just knew this was going to be a part of the show.
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 5:50SPEAKER_03: So notorious cunt Roger Waters is running his stupid mouth again.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: Even though you have a drawing of him hanging on your wall.
- 6:02SPEAKER_02: It pains me with this guy.
- 6:06SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to lie.
- 6:08SPEAKER_02: And I've said this a bunch of times on this show, on even the Seth show, the other shows.
- 6:17SPEAKER_02: 99.99% of the time, I literally separate
- 6:21SPEAKER_03: the music from the person.
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 6:25SPEAKER_03: Sebastian Bach is a dick.
- 6:29SPEAKER_03: But I love his music.
- 6:30SPEAKER_03: And I will continue to love his music.
- 6:33SPEAKER_03: I will never love him as a guy, as a person.
- 6:36SPEAKER_03: I'll always think he's a dick.
- 6:39SPEAKER_03: But I'll never say, well, Skid Row sucks now because this guy's an idiot.
- 6:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel the same way about John Mellencamp.
- 6:46SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: I can't stand his politics, but I would have loved to have gone to the show this year.
- 6:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 6:53SPEAKER_02: Pink Floyd.
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: Original Pink Floyd.
- 6:56SPEAKER_02: And even...
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: I mean, I really liked the stuff they did without Roger, to be honest.
- 7:04SPEAKER_03: But the original Pink Floyd is some of my favorite music of all time.
- 7:09SPEAKER_03: When I'm not in the mood to listen to metal,
- 7:12SPEAKER_03: and I've talked about this a lot,
- 7:13SPEAKER_03: I'll listen to mellow stuff,
- 7:14SPEAKER_03: like a lot of times it's Yacht Rock, but a lot of the time it's Pink Floyd.
- 7:19SPEAKER_03: I mean, a lot of the time.
- 7:22SPEAKER_03: It is not uncommon at all,
- 7:24SPEAKER_03: probably happens still at least once a week,
- 7:26SPEAKER_03: Where I'll throw on The Wall or Animals or,
- 7:29SPEAKER_03: you know, one of the many great, great releases from Pig Floyd.
- 7:37SPEAKER_03: You know, I love them.
- 7:38SPEAKER_03: I really like them.
- 7:39SPEAKER_03: And even Summer Rogers,
- 7:40SPEAKER_03: the first two,
- 7:42SPEAKER_03: you know, the Hitchhiking record and the Radio Chaos, I love those too.
- 7:49SPEAKER_03: I am a fan of what this creative genius can do.
- 7:56SPEAKER_03: But man, does he make it hard to keep liking this guy.
- 8:02SPEAKER_03: He's such a fucking cunt on everything he does outside of his band or his music.
- 8:12SPEAKER_03: And once again, he's spitting like a tard about something that has nothing to do with him.
- 8:23SPEAKER_03: So, I don't remember if we covered this or not last week,
- 8:26SPEAKER_03: but James Hetfield on stage basically said,
- 8:31SPEAKER_03: when you come to a Metallica show,
- 8:34SPEAKER_03: we're not going to spill our politics on the stage.
- 8:37SPEAKER_03: You come here to get away from the politics, blah, blah, blah.
- 8:41SPEAKER_03: You know, there's two sides.
- 8:43SPEAKER_03: There's either the overly political now or the guys that just don't want nothing
- 8:47SPEAKER_03: to do with their politics on the stage.
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I would prefer the guys who have nothing to do with politics.
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: They're just here to be...
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: They're just here to be trained monkeys to entertain me.
- 8:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 8:59SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what we're paying them for.
- 9:00SPEAKER_02: We're paying them for the songs.
- 9:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:02SPEAKER_02: And quite honestly,
- 9:04SPEAKER_02: in Metallica's case,
- 9:07SPEAKER_02: I don't think everybody agrees with this point, but this is my personal point.
- 9:13SPEAKER_02: They speak their politics in the music.
- 9:16SPEAKER_02: They have political songs.
- 9:17SPEAKER_02: Let's not kid anybody here.
- 9:19SPEAKER_02: Disposable Heroes is a political song.
- 9:22SPEAKER_02: One is a fairly political song.
- 9:25SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 9:25SPEAKER_02: they have political songs,
- 9:28SPEAKER_02: but they don't come out on stage and go,
- 9:32SPEAKER_02: this one goes out to anybody that thinks Joe Biden or Donald Trump is an asshole.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: This is Disposable Heroes.
- 9:41SPEAKER_03: You know, they don't do that shit.
- 9:43SPEAKER_03: They just play the song, you know, and you're left to interpret it however you interpret it.
- 9:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah, take away from it what you will.
- 9:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:52SPEAKER_02: Enjoy it.
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: Don't.
- 9:54SPEAKER_02: Have a message behind it.
- 9:56SPEAKER_02: Don't.
- 9:56SPEAKER_02: Whatever you want to do, that's fine.
- 10:01SPEAKER_02: And fine, whatever.
- 10:02SPEAKER_02: I mean, honestly,
- 10:04SPEAKER_02: I wish Hetfield hadn't even said,
- 10:07SPEAKER_02: to be
- 10:07SPEAKER_03: really perfectly honest, I wish he hadn't even brought attention to it.
- 10:12SPEAKER_03: He should just do what he's done for the last 40 years and not say anything about it.
- 10:17SPEAKER_03: You know, just do your shit.
- 10:19SPEAKER_03: But he did.
- 10:20SPEAKER_03: Probably because he's on social media and he's reading all this bullshit and whatever.
- 10:25SPEAKER_03: And fine.
- 10:28SPEAKER_03: So then,
- 10:30SPEAKER_03: I don't have too much of a problem with that other
- 10:32SPEAKER_03: than I just don't see why I even needed to say that.
- 10:34SPEAKER_03: They're the biggest band in the world.
- 10:36SPEAKER_03: They're not being hurt by their politics, whatever it is, you know?
- 10:40SPEAKER_03: Formula's working.
- 10:43SPEAKER_03: So this dumb fuck Roger Waters comes out and makes the most stupid fucking statement.
- 10:51SPEAKER_03: Arguably, in social media history.
- 10:57SPEAKER_02: Roger took aim at James Hetfield during a recent appearance at the Katie Halper Show.
- 11:03SPEAKER_03: The former Pink Floyd bassist and activist said, Can we stop talking about this prick?
- 11:10SPEAKER_03: I'm so bored with him.
- 11:12SPEAKER_03: He's just showing that he's a complete prick.
- 11:16SPEAKER_03: He's got an IQ of about three,
- 11:18SPEAKER_03: and why we're talking about him,
- 11:22SPEAKER_03: I honestly don't know, because he's a nobody, and he'll always be.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: Is he talking about James Hetfield?
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 11:35SPEAKER_03: He may have a few hundred million dollars or whatever, but he's a prick.
- 11:42SPEAKER_03: I heard them playing acoustic instruments and they couldn't.
- 11:47SPEAKER_03: It was appalling.
- 11:50SPEAKER_03: It's a shame this prick didn't have somebody around him to explain
- 11:55SPEAKER_03: that being kind is way more important than all that loud music and bouncing around
- 12:03SPEAKER_03: and whatever.
- 12:06SPEAKER_03: Are you really serious with this?
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 12:12SPEAKER_03: First of all, I mean, we could tear this down a million different ways.
- 12:17SPEAKER_03: I'm going to skip the prick part because whatever.
- 12:19SPEAKER_03: I don't know James Hetfield.
- 12:21SPEAKER_03: You don't know him.
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: We don't know.
- 12:23SPEAKER_01: No, no.
- 12:23SPEAKER_01: But do, do they, do they have history?
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: Not that I'm aware of.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 12:29SPEAKER_01: I didn't know if they traded barbs at one point or something.
- 12:33SPEAKER_03: Not that I'm aware.
- 12:34SPEAKER_03: I would think if they had, it would have been in any of these.
- 12:37SPEAKER_03: And this is a big story.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: And, and who's talking about James Hetfield?
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: Well, because of the sphere and whatever.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: It's a big story.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, but I mean, who's specifically talking about James Hetfield?
- 12:50SPEAKER_03: I don't know the full context of this.
- 12:52SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to lie.
- 12:53SPEAKER_03: If I had to guess,
- 12:54SPEAKER_03: since he was doing this show,
- 12:56SPEAKER_03: my thought would be that they referenced Metallica in asking him if he
- 13:04SPEAKER_03: or maybe he would reunite with Pink Floyd or something to play an event at
- 13:10SPEAKER_03: the sphere.
- 13:12SPEAKER_03: See what I mean?
- 13:12SPEAKER_03: Because of the presentation and whatnot.
- 13:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 13:15SPEAKER_03: It could.
- 13:16SPEAKER_03: I mean, it could be cool, actually.
- 13:18SPEAKER_03: But whatever.
- 13:21SPEAKER_03: I don't know the answer, to be honest.
- 13:24SPEAKER_03: My question, though, is
- 13:27SPEAKER_03: how the fuck can you say that this guy, James Hetfield, is a nobody?
- 13:34SPEAKER_03: Quite honestly, he's bigger than you got, Roger.
- 13:39SPEAKER_03: And I know that's a big statement.
- 13:41SPEAKER_03: But when it comes to every level of musician,
- 13:46SPEAKER_03: every level, he's a bigger, more dominant performer than Roger Waters in perception.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: Do you agree?
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: I mean, Roger Waters' day has passed.
- 14:00SPEAKER_03: I would say at the height of each of their career,
- 14:02SPEAKER_03: he's a bigger, bigger celebrity than Roger Waters ever was.
- 14:12SPEAKER_03: Metallica, 1992.
- 14:13SPEAKER_03: You're going to tell me,
- 14:15SPEAKER_03: James Hetfield, 1992, James Hetfield's not bigger than 1975,
- 14:20SPEAKER_02: Roger Waters?
- 14:21SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, again,
- 14:23SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: obviously,
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd,
- 14:28SPEAKER_01: during the Roger Waters era, the most video exposure that they got was The Wall.
- 14:35SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 14:37SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: You know, that was a big movie for them.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd was a collective.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: They weren't individual stars, I guess you want to call it.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: Even though people may know their names in the members of the band,
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: they were not standout performers.
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 15:02SPEAKER_01: Like the front man.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: He wasn't like the front man, even though he was the vocalist on a lot of the songs.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: He wasn't the front man.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: Because David Gilmour was also the front man.
- 15:16SPEAKER_03: Pink Floyd was an aura
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: more than a band.
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they were a performance art band.
- 15:26SPEAKER_02: But Pink Floyd was the same as going and seeing an
- 15:32SPEAKER_03: IMAX movie.
- 15:34SPEAKER_03: It was an experience...
- 15:38SPEAKER_03: You don't go to Pink Floyd, and I've seen Pink Floyd, and you've seen Pink Floyd live.
- 15:44SPEAKER_03: And I've seen Water Solo live.
- 15:46SPEAKER_03: You don't go to those shows and go,
- 15:49SPEAKER_03: man, that was really great the way that they played one of these days.
- 15:56SPEAKER_03: Or man, I can't believe that they didn't play Money tonight.
- 16:01SPEAKER_03: You know, whatever.
- 16:03SPEAKER_03: You don't go to a Pink Floyd show and For an individualistic song.
- 16:10SPEAKER_03: Like you might for a Metallica.
- 16:12SPEAKER_03: You got a Metallica, you want to hear Enter Sandman or One or whatever.
- 16:16SPEAKER_01: Pink Floyd was an experience.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: Look at these comment sets on this laptop.
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: They are saying I'm totally crazy.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: Unhinged?
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: I'll show you unhinged.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: I'm just getting started.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: You can't stop rock and roll.
- 16:28SPEAKER_02: You can't stop me.
- 16:35SPEAKER_02: But...
- 16:36SPEAKER_02: For him to say that James Hetfield is an...
- 16:40SPEAKER_02: Even if we're going to say that...
- 16:42SPEAKER_02: I don't think you could put Hetfield below Waters
- 16:45SPEAKER_03: as far as significance on any level.
- 16:49SPEAKER_03: On any level.
- 16:51SPEAKER_03: As a musician,
- 16:52SPEAKER_03: as a performer,
- 16:53SPEAKER_03: as an artist, as a band, Metallica, all surpassed Pink Floyd and Roger Waters.
- 17:02SPEAKER_03: On every level.
- 17:04SPEAKER_01: This is what I want to back up on because I'm not familiar with the story.
- 17:08SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 17:09SPEAKER_01: Why is he keying in on James Hetfield?
- 17:14SPEAKER_03: Again, I don't know the answer, but I'm assuming it's some question about the sphere.
- 17:20SPEAKER_03: That's the only reason James Hetfield would come up in a Roger Waters interview.
- 17:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know, but Metallica is playing the sphere, not James Hetfield.
- 17:31SPEAKER_02: He picked the target?
- 17:32SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 17:32SPEAKER_02: Well, he picked the target.
- 17:34SPEAKER_02: He picked Hetfield because Hetfield is saying, keep your fucking
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: politics off the stage.
- 17:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he didn't say this to other bands.
- 17:44SPEAKER_02: No, it doesn't matter.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: He said, we as Metallica are not going to put our politics out on the stage.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: We're just here to play music for you.
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: But here's his statement.
- 17:58SPEAKER_01: Did he go,
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: we Metallica are going to play our music and keep our politics off the stage,
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: unlike that asshole Roger Waters, who's always doing that.
- 18:09SPEAKER_01: Did he say that?
- 18:10SPEAKER_03: Here's his exact statement, Hetfield.
- 18:13SPEAKER_03: Metallica is not here, like some other entertainers, to influence you with their bullshit.
- 18:19SPEAKER_03: That's all he said.
- 18:22SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 18:23SPEAKER_01: Well, did Roger Waters think that was directed at him specifically?
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: Probably, because he won't shut the fuck up about his politics.
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: Well, how about John Mellencamp?
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: Probably directed at him, too, indirectly, sure.
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: Well, that's my point.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: It could have been anybody.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:39SPEAKER_01: Because lately,
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: there's been a rash of these various entertainers,
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: be it metal,
- 18:46SPEAKER_01: rock, country, who have been out there wearing their politics on their sleeve.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: I've seen comments from country guys lately making this whole...
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: And this is where I think this is coming from, is that whole... Who was it?
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: Was it the... Who were the people that...
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: They played that Robert Kraft's stadium and were making... Oh,
- 19:14SPEAKER_02: that Sheeran guy or whatever?
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:17SPEAKER_01: Ed Sheeran?
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people dropped off the tour because of the political statements and
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: that Robert Kraft,
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: who owns the Patriots,
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: he said,
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: I would appreciate it if you don't, you know, make that in my
- 19:32SPEAKER_03: building or whatever.
- 19:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, do this political and people,
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: free Palestine and blah, blah, blah,
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: and I think that to me,
- 19:42SPEAKER_01: if I heard in today's climate,
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: in today's current news cycle,
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: With Metallica playing the sphere and the current tour that is going on right now,
- 19:56SPEAKER_01: that people dropped off the tour because of people making their political statements
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: and whatever, I would have said to myself...
- 20:10SPEAKER_01: James Hetfield is saying, we're not going to do that.
- 20:14SPEAKER_01: We're not going to be caught up in the minutia of doing that kind of a thing.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: No.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: No, I agree.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: And that is a current story.
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: Roger Waters is not a current story.
- 20:30SPEAKER_02: No, he's only current when he runs his fucking mouth
- 20:33SPEAKER_01: about his dumb politics
- 20:35SPEAKER_02: or saying something crazy like
- 20:37SPEAKER_03: this or that he's glad that Ozzy was dead.
- 20:39SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 20:40SPEAKER_01: So now that you have put it in that frame,
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: something tells me that this Roger Waters thinks that James Hetfield was taking aim
- 20:51SPEAKER_01: at Roger Waters by making a
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: statement like that.
- 20:55SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: When in my mind...
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: Because I do follow the news a little bit.
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 21:01SPEAKER_01: This current tour that fell apart because of all these artists that left the tour
- 21:06SPEAKER_01: because of this free Palestine bullshit that's been going on out there.
- 21:11SPEAKER_03: And Waters is part of that, right?
- 21:13SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 21:14SPEAKER_03: I don't know if he's pro or against.
- 21:17SPEAKER_03: I don't even know what the difference is, to be honest.
- 21:19SPEAKER_03: I could give a fuck about stuff 10,000 miles from here.
- 21:22SPEAKER_01: True, but my point is it's a current tour that fell apart because a lot of
- 21:29SPEAKER_01: the artists left the tour or something.
- 21:34SPEAKER_01: Who is it?
- 21:35SPEAKER_02: Who was the... Ed Sheeran is the guy, and it was his band that quit.
- 21:41SPEAKER_01: Was it his band?
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: It was his band.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: Was it the support acts?
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: It was his band.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 21:49SPEAKER_00: So this caused this whole thing to implode because of that.
- 21:52SPEAKER_03: Well, here's what it is.
- 21:53SPEAKER_03: I'm reading the article as we go.
- 21:55SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 21:55SPEAKER_03: While Hetfield named no names,
- 21:57SPEAKER_03: the comment was widely linked with the removal of Macklemore from Ed Sheeran Stadium
- 22:02SPEAKER_03: before in September.
- 22:03SPEAKER_03: That's what
- 22:03SPEAKER_01: it is.
- 22:04SPEAKER_01: That's what I was looking for.
- 22:05SPEAKER_03: And then his band quit on him as well.
- 22:07SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 22:07SPEAKER_01: I do know that.
- 22:08SPEAKER_01: Because I don't know these people.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: I don't give two shits about them.
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: But Macklemore.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 22:13SPEAKER_01: That's who I was after.
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: Cause he went out there and made a big political statement, blah, blah, blah.
- 22:21SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just like in, in, you know, Headfield, I think, and again, you, you stated it.
- 22:31SPEAKER_01: I don't know the guy, but,
- 22:33SPEAKER_01: but people,
- 22:34SPEAKER_01: and we talked about this with David Reese earlier, people are spending hours.
- 22:39SPEAKER_01: A shit ton of money to go see Metallica.
- 22:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: So he's aware of people making trips,
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: traveling, spending money just to attend these fear residency thing.
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: And it's like everybody at ease.
- 22:58SPEAKER_01: We're not going to do any political statement bullshit here.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: We're just going to perform for you.
- 23:03SPEAKER_02: And we're going to give you every minute that you paid for of Metallica.
- 23:07SPEAKER_03: So what was wrong with that?
- 23:10SPEAKER_03: He won't support whatever it is that Waters is supporting.
- 23:13SPEAKER_03: Well, who cares?
- 23:15SPEAKER_03: I agree.
- 23:16SPEAKER_03: Dude, I agree.
- 23:18SPEAKER_02: And I don't think I even bring this story to the
- 23:24SPEAKER_03: show if he just says,
- 23:26SPEAKER_03: I don't like Metallica or Metallica's not supporting the Palestinian movement,
- 23:33SPEAKER_03: whatever the fuck it is, you know.
- 23:36SPEAKER_03: If he says that, I don't think I can bring this to the story.
- 23:38SPEAKER_03: The story to me is that he goes after James Hetfield like he's the singer of Trickster.
- 23:51SPEAKER_02: And I'm sorry, but James Hetfield and Metallica is the biggest rock
- 23:58SPEAKER_00: band of the last 50 years.
- 24:00SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, even bigger than Guns N' Roses.
- 24:05SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're in the same space as the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.
- 24:11SPEAKER_03: Sure.
- 24:12SPEAKER_03: That's where Metallica falls in the all-time pecking order.
- 24:17SPEAKER_03: Above stuff like, I would say, above the Who.
- 24:21SPEAKER_03: Maybe, maybe not.
- 24:22SPEAKER_03: That's probably a person by person.
- 24:25SPEAKER_01: They're all in that same echelon.
- 24:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, Metallica's there.
- 24:31SPEAKER_03: Metallica is...
- 24:33SPEAKER_03: Metallica's playing the sphere because they can't find buildings big enough for them
- 24:36SPEAKER_03: to play and challenges for them to do.
- 24:40SPEAKER_03: They've conquered everything.
- 24:42SPEAKER_03: They've conquered stadiums.
- 24:43SPEAKER_03: They've conquered festivals.
- 24:45SPEAKER_03: They've conquered sheds.
- 24:47SPEAKER_03: They've, you know, they're doing different.
- 24:50SPEAKER_03: They went to fucking Antarctica.
- 24:53SPEAKER_03: They're like the only band that's ever played in Antarctica.
- 24:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember the big MTV contest about that.
- 25:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 25:02SPEAKER_03: It was like such a thing.
- 25:05SPEAKER_03: They're bigger than Pink Floyd.
- 25:08SPEAKER_03: Pink Floyd is way up near the top as well.
- 25:11SPEAKER_03: I don't want to try and say that like Pink Floyd is trickster either.
- 25:15SPEAKER_03: Pink Floyd is probably in the most people's top 10 to 15, wouldn't you say?
- 25:22SPEAKER_03: Pink Floyd's probably same levels like Van Halen.
- 25:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 25:27SPEAKER_02: Maybe a little bigger, but right there, right in
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: that space.
- 25:31SPEAKER_01: They are a classic rock staple.
- 25:34SPEAKER_02: Yes, absolutely.
- 25:37SPEAKER_02: Are they bigger than, say, Pearl Jam?
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: Who, Pink Floyd?
- 25:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 25:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: You think by a lot or by a little?
- 25:48SPEAKER_00: I would say... Pearl Jam plays stadiums now.
- 25:51SPEAKER_00: They do.
- 25:52SPEAKER_01: Has for a while.
- 25:53SPEAKER_01: They do, but I think from a legacy standpoint, I think that they're bigger.
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
- 25:59SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
- 26:00SPEAKER_03: But my argument back to that would be you can hear two or three
- 26:09SPEAKER_03: Pearl Jam songs
- 26:11SPEAKER_03: on every classic rock station four times a day.
- 26:14SPEAKER_03: Same as Pink Floyd.
- 26:16SPEAKER_03: Now, Pink Floyd has the reputation, the longer reputation.
- 26:22SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying from a legacy standpoint.
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 26:25SPEAKER_03: But as far as achieving to that level, I think they're close.
- 26:33SPEAKER_03: I don't think they're a million miles past Pearl Jam.
- 26:38SPEAKER_01: No, no, not at all.
- 26:40SPEAKER_01: But from a legacy standpoint,
- 26:44SPEAKER_01: they have a reputation for their,
- 26:49SPEAKER_01: what do you want to call it,
- 26:50SPEAKER_01: presentation, their experience, the Pink Floyd experience.
- 26:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 26:55SPEAKER_03: I'm looking at the camera.
- 26:57SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you think about it,
- 27:00SPEAKER_01: that last go-round for Pink Floyd, that division bell tour, that was huge.
- 27:07SPEAKER_01: Oh, sure.
- 27:08SPEAKER_01: It was huge.
- 27:09SPEAKER_01: What was that, 1994?
- 27:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nothing to do with Roger Waters.
- 27:13SPEAKER_01: It's over 30 years ago, right?
- 27:15SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 27:15SPEAKER_01: But we're talking Pink Floyd as an entity, which, of course, Roger Waters was a part of.
- 27:22SPEAKER_01: So the average person out there who thinks Pink Floyd and knows of Roger Waters,
- 27:30SPEAKER_01: they may not even know that Roger Waters was not part of the Division Bell.
- 27:35SPEAKER_01: That is true.
- 27:36SPEAKER_01: They would go, oh, Pink Floyd, Roger Waters.
- 27:39SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, cool.
- 27:42SPEAKER_01: But that tour was so huge.
- 27:45SPEAKER_01: It was a stadium-sized tour.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: And that big...
- 27:52SPEAKER_01: Thing that they had on the stage, they had three of those.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: It was so big, they had to have two being assembled ahead of the next night's show.
- 28:03SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 28:05SPEAKER_01: Because it was such a massive undertaking.
- 28:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah, again, I'm not trying to say that Pink Floyd's not a...
- 28:16SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: What I'm trying to point out is that was an experience.
- 28:22SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 28:23SPEAKER_01: Oh, I agree with that.
- 28:24SPEAKER_01: And I agree with you that when it comes to Metallica,
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: as big as they are,
- 28:31SPEAKER_01: certain songs basically stand out that people go,
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: yeah, they got to play Anderson, man, man.
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: They got to play, you know, whatever.
- 28:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they got to play Anderson and they got to play Master of Puppets.
- 28:44SPEAKER_03: Master of Puppets.
- 28:45SPEAKER_03: They got to play one.
- 28:49SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, I'm trying to think of bands that are probably close to Pink Floyd.
- 28:54SPEAKER_02: How about Genesis?
- 28:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 28:58SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're that prog rock thing.
- 29:01SPEAKER_00: They're probably as close to even in the scale.
- 29:09SPEAKER_02: Do you think so?
- 29:10SPEAKER_02: I mean, Again, they've done stadiums.
- 29:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, back when they got back together, what was that, 2007?
- 29:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:19SPEAKER_01: That was a big tour for them.
- 29:21SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 29:24SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, Roger Waters needs to pipe down.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: I agree,
- 29:28SPEAKER_01: and the thing is,
- 29:29SPEAKER_01: the way that I look at it, it's just like, did you get sanded in your pussy?
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: You think James Hetfield was talking about you?
- 29:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: I don't think that was it.
- 29:39SPEAKER_01: I think he was talking about Macklemore.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: Since you said it.
- 29:48SPEAKER_00: Look at that.
- 29:50SPEAKER_00: Since you said it, I already had the graphic.
- 29:51SPEAKER_00: I didn't make it.
- 29:52SPEAKER_01: How about that?
- 29:58SPEAKER_03: There it is.
- 29:59SPEAKER_03: There's the graphic.
- 30:00SPEAKER_03: See?
- 30:02SPEAKER_03: I guess you're on point with that one.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: I guess.
- 30:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he really, really...
- 30:08SPEAKER_00: Really needs to shut the fuck up.
- 30:10SPEAKER_01: I seriously doubt James Hetfield had Roger Waters in mind
- 30:16SPEAKER_01: when he said he made his political statement.
- 30:20SPEAKER_01: I'm sure, again, with the most latest news, he was making commentary about that Macklemore guy.
- 30:28SPEAKER_02: He probably was, yeah.
- 30:29SPEAKER_02: I hadn't really thought of that, but you're probably 100% right on that.
- 30:34SPEAKER_02: You know, just...
- 30:37SPEAKER_02: I just, I hate it.
- 30:39SPEAKER_02: I hate that these artists today,
- 30:41SPEAKER_02: and I know this is, again,
- 30:44SPEAKER_02: it's me yelling at the fucking clouds,
- 30:46SPEAKER_02: but I miss the days where we didn't know much about these guys.
- 30:52SPEAKER_01: Well, again, I'm going to go with our David Reese tonight.
- 30:56SPEAKER_01: The internet has just ruined everything.
- 30:59SPEAKER_02: It has.
- 31:03SPEAKER_01: I like how he was just like, yeah, this platform's great.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: We're doing this thing over the internet, but for the most part, it's ruined everything.
- 31:10SPEAKER_02: It's ruined every goddamn thing.
- 31:12SPEAKER_01: But again,
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: this goes back to even,
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: and I'm going to take credit for this, about the whole goddamn social media.
- 31:20SPEAKER_01: How much have I railed against social media for the last 20 years?
- 31:24SPEAKER_01: From day one.
- 31:26SPEAKER_03: I tried desperately to get you to get a MySpace account, I think it was back then.
- 31:32SPEAKER_03: You were like, no
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: fucking way.
- 31:34SPEAKER_01: I'm not involved, not doing any of that bullshit.
- 31:38SPEAKER_03: By the way, Reese sent us an email.
- 31:39SPEAKER_03: I'll forward it to you.
- 31:41SPEAKER_03: He just said, thanks, and I appreciate your honesty on the show.
- 31:44SPEAKER_03: Really enjoyed it.
- 31:45SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
- 31:45SPEAKER_02: there you go.
- 31:46SPEAKER_02: There you go.
- 31:47SPEAKER_02: We told our thing.
- 31:48SPEAKER_02: He told his.
- 31:49SPEAKER_02: It was good.
- 31:50SPEAKER_03: Well, thank
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: you, David.
- 31:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, appreciate it.
- 31:53SPEAKER_02: Loved having him on.
- 31:55SPEAKER_02: All right, one more story, and we'll get the fuck out of here.
- 31:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 32:01SPEAKER_02: I don't think we did this.
- 32:02SPEAKER_03: If we did, stop me and I'll come up with something
- 32:04SPEAKER_02: else to talk about.
- 32:05SPEAKER_01: Well, I got other stuff too, so if this one doesn't work out.
- 32:08SPEAKER_03: If this doesn't work out, but we have to cover this if we didn't already.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 32:13SPEAKER_03: We did not cover the end of the Beach Boys, did we?
- 32:17SPEAKER_01: Well, you sent it to me, and that's as far as it went.
- 32:22SPEAKER_01: We did not cover this.
- 32:23SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 32:24SPEAKER_01: We have to cover.
- 32:25SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
- 32:26SPEAKER_01: This was just...
- 32:28SPEAKER_01: Actually, very disturbing.
- 32:31SPEAKER_00: This is...
- 32:34SPEAKER_03: We beat on the Frankie Valli stuff a lot.
- 32:42SPEAKER_03: We covered that easily three or four times, did we not?
- 32:46SPEAKER_01: At least twice.
- 32:48SPEAKER_03: And we covered Phil Collins a bunch of times.
- 32:54SPEAKER_03: This makes all those guys...
- 32:57SPEAKER_03: Seem like 22-year-old wonderkins on the stage.
- 33:02SPEAKER_03: This is another level of horrendous.
- 33:07SPEAKER_03: Horrendous.
- 33:11SPEAKER_03: There should be criminal charges filed against the management of the Beach Boys.
- 33:17SPEAKER_03: Mike Love's son, who I think is this guitar player that's quote-unquote dancing with him.
- 33:23SPEAKER_03: And John Stamos.
- 33:24SPEAKER_03: And John Stamos.
- 33:27SPEAKER_03: They should all be in jail for this.
- 33:30SPEAKER_03: This, this is elder abuse.
- 33:33SPEAKER_03: I don't have, in my opinion, it is.
- 33:37SPEAKER_03: You watched it.
- 33:38SPEAKER_01: Is it elder abuse to you?
- 33:40SPEAKER_01: I believe so.
- 33:41SPEAKER_01: They're wheeling a living corpse out on the stage, as far as I'm concerned.
- 33:47SPEAKER_03: This is really Weekend at Bernie's.
- 33:51SPEAKER_03: I mean, this feels like Weekend at Bernie's.
- 33:54SPEAKER_02: It really is.
- 33:56SPEAKER_02: Put it on the screen here.
- 33:58SPEAKER_02: Share this tab.
- 34:01SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 34:03SPEAKER_02: So let's give a look.
- 34:04SPEAKER_02: This guy.
- 34:05SPEAKER_00: Without even pushing play.
- 34:08SPEAKER_00: That's a dead body.
- 34:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 34:10SPEAKER_00: Look at his bony knees.
- 34:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 34:17SPEAKER_00: He's wearing skinny jeans that still look too thick for him.
- 34:21SPEAKER_00: His skinny jeans are baggy.
- 34:23SPEAKER_00: Look down here.
- 34:25SPEAKER_02: Look at how thin his ankle is compared to these pants.
- 34:29SPEAKER_02: And these are the kind that are supposed to hug your ankles.
- 34:36SPEAKER_02: And he's wearing a life preserver in case
- 34:38SPEAKER_00: he, what, falls?
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: I was wondering what that was.
- 34:42SPEAKER_00: Is that to represent the beach?
- 34:44SPEAKER_00: He's wearing a life preserver?
- 34:46SPEAKER_00: I think that's what it is.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: I wonder if it has a little tube in it and he's
- 34:50SPEAKER_03: got his mouth with oxygen.
- 34:53SPEAKER_01: It's like one of the ones that you get on a plane where they demonstrate on
- 34:57SPEAKER_01: a plane just in case the plane goes down in the water.
- 35:02SPEAKER_03: Yeah, put it around your neck and...
- 35:06SPEAKER_00: This isn't right, man.
- 35:09SPEAKER_02: This is the guy that sang California Dreamin' and whatever other songs.
- 35:16SPEAKER_01: And even the most recent big hit from 1986, Kokomo.
- 35:19SPEAKER_01: The Kokomo.
- 35:25SPEAKER_02: This isn't Kokomo, this is the dead Jamoke.
- 35:27SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ, he looks dead!
- 35:31SPEAKER_02: Alright, let me play this video, and then
- 35:34SPEAKER_03: we'll comment.
- 35:34SPEAKER_03: For anybody that has not seen this, this is horrible.
- 35:38SPEAKER_03: Alright, here we go.
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- 36:27SPEAKER_00: Why do this?
- 36:28SPEAKER_01: So there's a whole band built around one guy.
- 36:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 36:33SPEAKER_01: One dead guy.
- 36:35SPEAKER_01: These are not the Beach Boys.
- 36:37SPEAKER_02: No.
- 36:37SPEAKER_02: No.
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: This is Mike Love and a bunch of guys.
- 36:42SPEAKER_01: And again,
- 36:42SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 36:43SPEAKER_01: David Reese,
- 36:45SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 36:46SPEAKER_01: keyed in on this again,
- 36:48SPEAKER_01: which is something we talk about all the time, the band versus brand thing.
- 36:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: Just because this is Mike Love, this is the Beach Boys?
- 36:59SPEAKER_00: I might accept it if he was up and
- 37:01SPEAKER_03: dancing around or something.
- 37:03SPEAKER_03: This fucking guy...
- 37:05SPEAKER_00: You could stick him in a coffin and not know for hours that he's alive.
- 37:10SPEAKER_00: What is that bag under his chair?
- 37:12SPEAKER_00: Is that his oxygen or something?
- 37:14SPEAKER_00: It's probably an emergency medical kit.
- 37:17SPEAKER_00: Defibrillator or something.
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: In case he has a stroke from that heavy movement that he was doing.
- 37:24SPEAKER_00: So that guitarist, is that his son?
- 37:25SPEAKER_00: That's John Stamos, I think.
- 37:27SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's John Stamos.
- 37:28SPEAKER_00: Isn't it?
- 37:29SPEAKER_00: I think so.
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: Here, I'll play it again.
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: And he just goes like this and he's just like,
- 37:40SPEAKER_03: Retard see, retard do.
- 37:43SPEAKER_01: John Stamos should be ashamed of him.
- 37:46SPEAKER_02: I mean, my God.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: Are you kidding?
- 37:49SPEAKER_02: Let's play it one more.
- 37:49SPEAKER_02: I'll play it back one more time.
- 37:51SPEAKER_02: It's only 15 seconds or 13 seconds.
- 37:54SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
- 37:58SPEAKER_03: I'm going to go back to the beginning.
- 37:59SPEAKER_00: He has to wake him up.
- 38:01SPEAKER_00: I know he has to hit him.
- 38:04SPEAKER_00: Hey, hey, wake up!
- 38:06SPEAKER_00: Then he's doing the monkey.
- 38:08SPEAKER_00: He's doing...
- 38:12SPEAKER_00: And then he goes, he goes, all right, leave me alone.
- 38:16SPEAKER_00: All right, I'm done.
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: Watch him, he wakes him up, it looks like, to do this.
- 38:22SPEAKER_00: He goes, hey!
- 38:23SPEAKER_00: Hey, wake up, stupid!
- 38:25SPEAKER_00: Hey!
- 38:26[music]
- 38:47SPEAKER_00: Just brutal.
- 38:49SPEAKER_00: He's just asleep up there on the stage.
- 38:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's taking a nap before he takes a dirt nap.
- 38:57SPEAKER_02: Unreal.
- 39:00SPEAKER_02: Well, there's other videos.
- 39:03SPEAKER_01: Well, the show must go on.
- 39:05SPEAKER_01: Oops, that's very loud.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: The show must go on.
- 39:08SPEAKER_00: Here you go.
- 39:09SPEAKER_00: He looks like a skeleton with skin.
- 39:12SPEAKER_00: He looks so bad.
- 39:15SPEAKER_03: Now, you haven't seen this video, I'm assuming.
- 39:18SPEAKER_03: No, I haven't.
- 39:20SPEAKER_02: This is, I believe, after the show, like at the end of the show.
- 39:26SPEAKER_02: And these two people are literally picking him up and holding him up so he can wave
- 39:35SPEAKER_02: to the crowd.
- 39:36SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
- 39:37SPEAKER_02: Ha, ha, ha.
- 39:39SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
- 39:40[music]
- 39:49[music]
- 40:00He's up.
- 40:07SPEAKER_00: He got Fucking eight people picking him up.
- 40:10SPEAKER_00: That's John Stamos
- 40:12SPEAKER_01: over there on his right side.
- 40:13SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 40:16SPEAKER_00: Look, he got up.
- 40:19Everybody clap.
- 40:21SPEAKER_00: He looks like a Holocaust survivor.
- 40:24SPEAKER_00: He does.
- 40:27SPEAKER_03: Looks like he's going to come out of there and he's going to say, yeah, I ate my neighbor's leg.
- 40:32SPEAKER_00: I didn't have any fucking food.
- 40:34SPEAKER_00: Look how thin his legs are.
- 40:41SPEAKER_02: I can't even imagine how he's been able to travel.
- 40:46SPEAKER_02: Can you imagine the pain that must...
- 40:50SPEAKER_02: This guy's bones must fall apart when you hit a pothole.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: This is not a healthy man.
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: No.
- 41:00SPEAKER_01: I mean, the last time I saw Jack Russell... Yeah.
- 41:04SPEAKER_01: He did the Ground Zero show down in Texas when we had the full eclipse.
- 41:16SPEAKER_01: He couldn't even get out of his chair.
- 41:20SPEAKER_01: Who was worse, Jack Russell or this guy?
- 41:23SPEAKER_01: Both.
- 41:24SPEAKER_01: They're identical.
- 41:25SPEAKER_01: Identical.
- 41:29SPEAKER_01: It's like, what are you doing here?
- 41:32SPEAKER_01: Even Don asked him.
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: He says, what are you doing?
- 41:35SPEAKER_00: And he goes, I got to pay the bills, Don.
- 41:38SPEAKER_00: I got to pay the bills.
- 41:39SPEAKER_00: Fuck
- 41:40SPEAKER_02: the bills.
- 41:40SPEAKER_00: You're going to be on the ground in six weeks.
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: And he was.
- 41:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 41:44SPEAKER_02: I mean, at that point, who cares about the fucking bills?
- 41:48SPEAKER_01: What does this guy bring to the show aside from just being part of the Beach Boys?
- 41:53SPEAKER_02: The only thing I could think of is they literally can't do it without him
- 41:57SPEAKER_02: and he won't sign off on it maybe?
- 42:01SPEAKER_02: What a mess.
- 42:02SPEAKER_02: This is horrible.
- 42:06SPEAKER_02: All that fun, fun, fun till your daddy took the T-Bird away.
- 42:11SPEAKER_02: Now daddy's taken what?
- 42:12SPEAKER_02: His life away?
- 42:16SPEAKER_02: And we'll have fun, fun, fun till my daddy delivers the casket today.
- 42:21SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 42:22SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
- 42:25SPEAKER_01: This is just so sad.
- 42:28SPEAKER_01: If you were the promoter of this, and again, I know money speaks and everything.
- 42:34SPEAKER_01: It's like, number one, who's going to see the Beach Boys?
- 42:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 42:39SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've seen the Beach Boys three times.
- 42:43SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 42:44SPEAKER_01: And that was only because they were on tour with Chicago.
- 42:47SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 42:48SPEAKER_01: I've seen them.
- 42:49SPEAKER_01: That was a popular combo, was Chicago and the Beach Boys.
- 42:54SPEAKER_02: And they were a big state fair rib cook-off band in the 90s.
- 42:58SPEAKER_02: I saw them a couple times at different fairs and shit.
- 43:02SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not a...
- 43:03SPEAKER_01: I never...
- 43:04SPEAKER_01: Really got into them because that was before my time.
- 43:07SPEAKER_01: I mean, they were the 60s surf thing, whatever.
- 43:11SPEAKER_01: And I know people love that shit.
- 43:14SPEAKER_02: They were a little too clean for me.
- 43:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 43:16SPEAKER_01: Even to this day,
- 43:18SPEAKER_01: I admire what
- 43:23SPEAKER_01: Brian Wilson brought to the stage after watching that Wrecking Crew.
- 43:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
- 43:29SPEAKER_01: Watching that Wrecking Crew documentary.
- 43:31SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 43:33SPEAKER_01: The music doesn't resonate with me,
- 43:37SPEAKER_01: but are there enough people in that age group that are going to see the Beach Boys
- 43:42SPEAKER_01: to go, yeah, I got to go see this, man.
- 43:44SPEAKER_01: It's the Beach Boys.
- 43:47SPEAKER_03: I think, one, they do the nostalgia go.
- 43:51SPEAKER_02: This is probably the last time I'm going to get to see them.
- 43:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but how many people in that age group who grew up with
- 43:59SPEAKER_01: the Beach Boys are still alive and still going to concerts to go see this?
- 44:03SPEAKER_03: Well, you're making a good point,
- 44:05SPEAKER_03: but the only counter I'll have is for those people that are still alive
- 44:10SPEAKER_03: and whatever, what other acts from that era
- 44:13SPEAKER_02: are still around?
- 44:14SPEAKER_01: True,
- 44:15SPEAKER_01: but are people in that age group still heading out to a shed or a venue to go see
- 44:22SPEAKER_01: the Beach Boys?
- 44:23SPEAKER_02: Well, this guy here did.
- 44:26SPEAKER_02: And he's dead.
- 44:30SPEAKER_02: He came out to perform and he's a corpse.
- 44:34SPEAKER_01: He really is.
- 44:35SPEAKER_03: He's literally, he's as dead as you can.
- 44:38SPEAKER_03: He is literally as dead as you can be while still breathing.
- 44:44SPEAKER_03: This is a dead man.
- 44:47SPEAKER_02: I wonder if he's in a coma.
- 44:51SPEAKER_02: And I'm not even trying to make a silly joke.
- 44:53SPEAKER_02: I legitimately wonder if this guy's in a coma.
- 44:58SPEAKER_03: He doesn't seem like he's not in a coma,
- 45:01SPEAKER_03: other than that big dance move that he did with John Stamos in the other video.
- 45:05SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and does he even sing any of the songs at all?
- 45:10SPEAKER_01: He just sits
- 45:11SPEAKER_03: on stage.
- 45:12SPEAKER_03: I'll bet you anything they put a microphone in front of him and it's not even turned on.
- 45:17SPEAKER_03: I would bet my house on that.
- 45:22SPEAKER_03: Because the last thing they want
- 45:23SPEAKER_03: to hear is this guy fucking coughing like he's got whooping cough or something.
- 45:28SPEAKER_03: You're now having a seizure or something.
- 45:31SPEAKER_03: They're not going to give him a live mic.
- 45:32SPEAKER_03: He can't even fucking hold a microphone.
- 45:36SPEAKER_03: Him holding a microphone and be like me and you holding a 300-pound weight.
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: What I can't get over is how emaciated he is.
- 45:49SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can look at his jeans and basically see his pelvic bones.
- 45:56SPEAKER_02: Dude, he probably bought those clothes from a fucking Barbie costume.
- 46:01SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's wearing Ken clothes.
- 46:08SPEAKER_02: He's not alive.
- 46:12SPEAKER_03: This happened, what, two weeks ago or something?
- 46:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, two weeks
- 46:15SPEAKER_03: ago.
- 46:15SPEAKER_03: And the reaction was so bad that they actually said, that's it for the Beach Boys.
- 46:19SPEAKER_03: We're done.
- 46:21SPEAKER_03: As it should be.
- 46:23SPEAKER_03: Do you think Realistically, no joking aside, not looking for a funny line.
- 46:28SPEAKER_03: Do you think this guy sees the ball drop at 2027?
- 46:32SPEAKER_01: No.
- 46:32SPEAKER_03: I don't think so either.
- 46:34SPEAKER_01: No.
- 46:36SPEAKER_03: I think we are days away from the end of Mike Love.
- 46:40SPEAKER_03: In fact, I think we're about six months past the death of Mike Love, if you want the truth.
- 46:46SPEAKER_01: This truly is Weekend at Bernie's.
- 46:49SPEAKER_00: This is so horrible, man.
- 46:55SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, we have contractual obligations.
- 47:00SPEAKER_03: Well, if I know one thing,
- 47:02SPEAKER_03: it's that Mike Love needs the money because the Beach Boys,
- 47:05SPEAKER_03: they didn't make any money over their career, I'm sure.
- 47:08SPEAKER_01: No, they weren't the biggest selling artists in American history.
- 47:14SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm sure those 60 years weren't profitable.
- 47:18SPEAKER_01: Who's the top two selling American artists in American history?
- 47:23SPEAKER_03: Beach Boys and what?
- 47:24SPEAKER_03: Eagles?
- 47:25SPEAKER_03: Chicago.
- 47:25SPEAKER_03: Chicago?
- 47:26SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 47:27SPEAKER_03: Eagles are right there, aren't they?
- 47:29SPEAKER_01: Well, they're up there, yes.
- 47:35SPEAKER_03: At least we know this guy will be able to buy a good headstone.
- 47:38SPEAKER_03: Hell, it's probably already put up.
- 47:44SPEAKER_02: Well, there you have it, some fucking Beach Boys.
- 47:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all the Wilsons are dead, which were the primary guys of the band.
- 47:53SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: And then there's Mike Love and Bruce Johnson and who was the other guy?
- 47:59SPEAKER_01: That Bruce Johnson, he's still alive and doing Beach Boys stuff.
- 48:03SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 48:04SPEAKER_03: It'll probably be Bruce Johnson's Beach Boys here coming soon.
- 48:09SPEAKER_01: But I think Mike Love was the one who retained and sued and got the Beach Boys again.
- 48:17SPEAKER_01: That brand is everything.
- 48:21SPEAKER_03: Boy, I'll say,
- 48:21SPEAKER_03: if you can literally wheel a corpse up on stage,
- 48:25SPEAKER_03: not have them do shit for an hour and a half and then get paid,
- 48:29SPEAKER_03: I guess that makes sense.
- 48:30SPEAKER_03: I mean, this guy did nothing.
- 48:35SPEAKER_03: Honestly, and again, no joking aside, That first video that I played, Stamos woke him up.
- 48:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he had to go, hey, hey, it's time for
- 48:47SPEAKER_01: you to perform.
- 48:47SPEAKER_00: And he goes, oh, okay.
- 48:58SPEAKER_03: And people were still applauding.
- 49:01SPEAKER_00: Let's wind it back when they stand him up.
- 49:04SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 49:05SPEAKER_00: They were just like, yay, he got up.
- 49:07SPEAKER_00: Yay.
- 49:08SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, they're literally going to pick him up.
- 49:10SPEAKER_00: It's not like he stood up.
- 49:13SPEAKER_00: No.
- 49:14SPEAKER_00: I mean, look how limp his body is.
- 49:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 49:17SPEAKER_00: He's a corpse.
- 49:18SPEAKER_03: He's like an old sack of potatoes just laying there.
- 49:22SPEAKER_03: And they're going to pick him up and the people lose their shit
- 49:25SPEAKER_03: over them picking up this dead body.
- 49:28SPEAKER_03: He's standing.
- 49:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're saying he's standing, but he's not.
- 49:32SPEAKER_02: They're holding him up.
- 49:33SPEAKER_02: He's being propped up.
- 49:36SPEAKER_02: They might as well lean him against this post right in the middle of this fucking thing.
- 49:41SPEAKER_02: Tie him to it so he won't fall down.
- 49:45SPEAKER_02: Good God.
- 49:46SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
- 49:50[music]
- 50:00SPEAKER_02: I think he fell asleep.
- 50:03SPEAKER_02: Look, his head's down again.
- 50:04SPEAKER_00: Or he can't hold his head up.
- 50:07SPEAKER_00: His head is drooping.
- 50:10SPEAKER_00: He literally can't hold his head up.
- 50:14SPEAKER_03: John Stamos, you should be ashamed.
- 50:17SPEAKER_01: He should be ashamed of himself.
- 50:21SPEAKER_03: And I know this is not politically correct, but I'm going to say it anyway.
- 50:26SPEAKER_03: As good as he looks, he should not be standing next to my glove here.
- 50:30SPEAKER_03: Makes my glove look even worse.
- 50:33SPEAKER_03: Got this fucking model standing next to this corpse.
- 50:37SPEAKER_01: Hey, John, why don't you wheel Bob Saget out?
- 50:43SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no shit.
- 50:45SPEAKER_03: Might as well.
- 50:46SPEAKER_03: Maybe that was the opening act, was an opening
- 50:48SPEAKER_00: set from Bob Saget.
- 50:50SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 50:51SPEAKER_00: Could have been.
- 50:52SPEAKER_00: Why not?
- 50:53SPEAKER_00: Just wheel him out there.
- 50:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 50:56Jesus Christ.
- 50:59SPEAKER_03: What an embarrassment.
- 51:01SPEAKER_01: Where's that ex of yours that Rebecca Romaine?
- 51:04SPEAKER_01: What happened to that piece of ass?
- 51:08SPEAKER_03: That would be worth seeing.
- 51:09SPEAKER_03: That's a whole lot more worth seeing than this fucking dead guy.
- 51:16SPEAKER_01: Dead man walking or dragging.
- 51:19SPEAKER_00: Not walking at all.
- 51:20SPEAKER_00: He's not walking here.
- 51:22SPEAKER_03: I mean, his head is just like... Watch when he stands up.
- 51:26SPEAKER_03: His head's up for a second and it falls down.
- 51:28SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you can really see it real well or not, but watch.
- 51:34SPEAKER_02: Head's up and it falls down.
- 51:39SPEAKER_02: His head was up for like a second.
- 51:41SPEAKER_02: And they're playing We Are the Champions?
- 51:44SPEAKER_00: What are the champions of?
- 51:47SPEAKER_00: The Handicap Olympics?
- 51:49SPEAKER_00: We are the champions.
- 51:52SPEAKER_00: Woo!
- 51:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
- 52:00SPEAKER_01: That is the worst.
- 52:01SPEAKER_01: Look at this guy on the left or on his left.
- 52:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that guy.
- 52:09SPEAKER_01: Look at him.
- 52:10SPEAKER_00: He's bracing him.
- 52:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 52:18SPEAKER_03: Because he's got 125 pounds of just dead meat that he's trying to hold up.
- 52:23SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
- 52:29Look at all the people behind him to make sure he doesn't fall.
- 52:35SPEAKER_00: Who thought this was a good idea?
- 52:37SPEAKER_00: I don't even have the video of him.
- 52:40SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
- 52:47SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
- 52:49SPEAKER_03: But I think they literally got embarrassed into retirement.
- 52:52SPEAKER_03: Well, they should have.
- 52:55SPEAKER_01: They should have never rescheduled these shows because I know some
- 52:58SPEAKER_01: of these shows were makeup shows that they had to cancel because
- 53:04SPEAKER_01: of Mike Love's health.
- 53:06SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 53:07SPEAKER_01: And I guess it was getting close to the end of summer and they were just like,
- 53:11SPEAKER_01: well, we got to go out there.
- 53:12SPEAKER_01: The show must go on.
- 53:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 53:16SPEAKER_02: And we'll have fun, fun, fun till Mike Love passes away.
- 53:21SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 53:22SPEAKER_02: And that's what they're doing.
- 53:24SPEAKER_02: They're trotting him out there, collecting a check.
- 53:27SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
- 53:30SPEAKER_02: Frankie Valli or Mike Love?
- 53:32SPEAKER_02: Who dies first?
- 53:34SPEAKER_02: Mike Love.
- 53:35SPEAKER_03: Mike Love?
- 53:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 53:37SPEAKER_03: I kind of wonder if his countdown isn't on a watch now, not even a calendar.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: I mean, at least Frankie Valli could stand.
- 53:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 53:46SPEAKER_03: True.
- 53:49SPEAKER_03: Honestly,
- 53:49SPEAKER_03: Mike Love,
- 53:51SPEAKER_03: would it shock you if we wake up tomorrow and it's like, Mike Love passed away?
- 53:55SPEAKER_03: Wouldn't shock me at all.
- 53:56SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
- 54:00SPEAKER_01: And then the next thing you know,
- 54:01SPEAKER_01: we're going to get all kinds of negative comments like,
- 54:04SPEAKER_00: you killed Mike Love.
- 54:07SPEAKER_00: You guys killed him.
- 54:10SPEAKER_00: You insensitive pricks.
- 54:13SPEAKER_00: You were making fun of him and it put him in his grave.
- 54:18SPEAKER_00: He's not a dead guy.
- 54:20SPEAKER_00: He has a personality.
- 54:25SPEAKER_03: Why are you making fun of a human being like that?
- 54:28SPEAKER_02: Shut up.
- 54:32SPEAKER_02: Making fun of these people that trotted this dead guy out there and pretended
- 54:36SPEAKER_02: that he was performing.
- 54:41SPEAKER_02: This is so bad.
- 54:47SPEAKER_01: And that's where we'll end the show tonight.
- 54:51SPEAKER_01: End of an era.
- 54:52SPEAKER_03: No kidding.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 54:55SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 54:55SPEAKER_01: Well, we appreciate everybody who tuned in tonight and put up with our nonsense.
- 55:00SPEAKER_01: What?
- 55:02SPEAKER_03: This is the perfect cap.
- 55:04SPEAKER_03: Wretch in the chat room.
- 55:05SPEAKER_03: Sebastian Bach, the CMS killed Mike Love.
- 55:10SPEAKER_01: Pretty much.
- 55:13SPEAKER_00: That ties it all together.
- 55:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
- 55:16SPEAKER_00: It's great.
- 55:17SPEAKER_00: You assholes.
- 55:21SPEAKER_00: Oh, boy.
- 55:22SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 55:23SPEAKER_01: Well, we want to thank David Reese for calling in and being a part of the show tonight.
- 55:28SPEAKER_01: Very entertaining.
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- 55:49SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 55:50SPEAKER_01: That's all I'm going to say about that.
- 55:52SPEAKER_01: And speaking about dead guys,
- 55:54SPEAKER_01: I think all the members of this band are dead,
- 55:58SPEAKER_01: including the guy who's singing the song.
- 56:00SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about Lemmy from the band Motorhead.
- 56:03SPEAKER_01: He is singing a song called Ramones.
- 56:09SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to take you out.
- 56:11SPEAKER_01: Of the show tonight with the band Motorhead singing Ramones.
- 56:16SPEAKER_01: And we're going to be back next Saturday, hopefully, and do this thing all over again.
- 56:21SPEAKER_01: So this is Neely along with my very good friend.
- 56:24SPEAKER_01: Chris Egan.
- 56:25SPEAKER_01: And we're gone.
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