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- 0:00Speaker 1: Three by Alexander Hamilton. The Federalist Papers Federalist Number eighty
- 0:06Speaker 1: four by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay Federalist
- 0:11Speaker 1: Number eighty four. Certain general and miscellaneous objections to the Constitution,
- 0:17Speaker 1: considered and answered to the people of the State of
- 0:21Speaker 1: New York. In the course of the foregoing review of
- 0:26Speaker 1: the Constitution. I have taken notice of, and endeavored to answer,
- 0:30Speaker 1: most of the objections which have appeared against it. There however,
- 0:34Speaker 1: remain a few which either did not fall naturally under
- 0:37Speaker 1: any particular head, or were forgotten in their proper places.
- 0:41Speaker 1: These shall now be discussed, But as the subject has
- 0:44Speaker 1: been drawn to great length, I shaw so far consult
- 0:47Speaker 1: brevity as to compromise all my observations on these miscellaneous
- 0:51Speaker 1: points in a single paper. The most considerable of the
- 0:56Speaker 1: remaining objections is that the plan of the Convention contains
- 0:59Speaker 1: no bills bill of rights. Among other answers given to this,
- 1:03Speaker 1: it has been, upon different occasions remarked that the constitutions
- 1:07Speaker 1: of the several of the states aren't a similar predicament.
- 1:10Speaker 1: I add that New York is of the number, and
- 1:13Speaker 1: yet the opposers of the new system in this state
- 1:16Speaker 1: who profess an unlimited admiration for its constitution, are among
- 1:20Speaker 1: the most intemperate partisans of the Bill of Rights. To
- 1:23Speaker 1: justify their zeal in this matter, they allege two things.
- 1:27Speaker 1: One is that though the Constitution of New York has
- 1:29Speaker 1: no Bill of Rights prefixed to it, yet it contains
- 1:32Speaker 1: in the body of it various provisions in favor of
- 1:35Speaker 1: particular privileges and rights, which in substance amount to the
- 1:38Speaker 1: same thing. The other is that the Constitution adopts in
- 1:43Speaker 1: their full extent the common and statute law of Great Britain,
- 1:46Speaker 1: by which many other rights not expressed in it are
- 1:49Speaker 1: equally secured to the first. I answer that the Constitution
- 1:55Speaker 1: proposed by the Convention contains, as well as the Constitution
- 1:59Speaker 1: of this State, a number of such provisions, independent of
- 2:04Speaker 1: those which relate to the structure of the government. We
- 2:07Speaker 1: find the following Article one, Section three, Clause seven quote.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Judgment in cases of impeachment shall not extend further than
- 2:15Speaker 1: to removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy
- 2:19Speaker 1: any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
- 2:24Speaker 1: But the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject
- 2:28Speaker 1: to indictment, trial, judgment and punishment according to law. End
- 2:32Speaker 1: quote section nine of the same article, Clause two quote
- 2:38Speaker 1: the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not
- 2:41Speaker 1: be suspended, unless, when in cases of rebellion or invasion,
- 2:44Speaker 1: the public safety may require it. Quote Clause three. No
- 2:49Speaker 1: bill of attainder or expost factor law shall be passed.
- 2:53Speaker 1: End quote Clause seven quote. No title of nobility shall
- 2:57Speaker 1: be granted by the United States, and no person holding
- 3:00Speaker 1: any office of profit or trust under them shall without
- 3:04Speaker 1: the consent of the Congress, except of any present emolument, office,
- 3:08Speaker 1: or title of any kind whatever, from any King, prince,
- 3:11Speaker 1: or foreign state. End quote. Article three, Section two. Clause three.
- 3:18Speaker 1: The trial of all crimes, excepting cases of impeachment, shall
- 3:21Speaker 1: be by jury, and such trials shall be held in
- 3:24Speaker 1: the state where the said crime shall have been committed,
- 3:27Speaker 1: but when not committed within any state, the trials should
- 3:30Speaker 1: be at such place or places as the Congress may,
- 3:32Speaker 1: by law have directed. End quote Section three of the
- 3:37Speaker 1: same article. Quote. Treason against the United States shall consist
- 3:42Speaker 1: only in levying war against them, or in adhering to
- 3:45Speaker 1: their enemies giving them aid and comfort. No person shall
- 3:49Speaker 1: be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two
- 3:52Speaker 1: witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in
- 3:56Speaker 1: open court close quote and Clause three of the same section. Quote.
- 4:03Speaker 1: The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason,
- 4:06Speaker 1: but no attainer of treason shall work corruption of blood
- 4:09Speaker 1: or forfeiture, except during the life of the person attainted.
- 4:15Speaker 1: It may well be a question whether these are not,
- 4:17Speaker 1: upon the whole, of equal importance with any which they
- 4:20Speaker 1: be found in the constitution of this state. The establishment
- 4:23Speaker 1: of the writ of habeas corpus, the prohibition of expost
- 4:27Speaker 1: facto laws, and of titles of nobility to which we
- 4:30Speaker 1: have no corresponding provision in our constitution, are perhaps greater
- 4:34Speaker 1: securities to liberty in republicanism than any it contains. The
- 4:38Speaker 1: creation of crimes after the commission of the fact or,
- 4:41Speaker 1: in other words, the subjecting of men to punishment for
- 4:44Speaker 1: things which, when they were done, were breaches of no law,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and the practice of arbitrary imprisonments have been in all
- 4:51Speaker 1: ages the favorite and most formidable instruments of tyranny. The
- 4:55Speaker 1: observations of the Judicious Blackstone in reference to the latter
- 5:00Speaker 1: are well worthy of recital. Quote to bereave a man
- 5:05Speaker 1: of life, says he, or by violence to confiscate his
- 5:08Speaker 1: escape without accusation or trial, would be so gross a
- 5:12Speaker 1: notorious an act of despotism, as must at once convey
- 5:16Speaker 1: the alarm of tyranny throughout the whole nation. A confinement
- 5:19Speaker 1: of the person, by secretly hurrying of to jail, where
- 5:22Speaker 1: his sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public,
- 5:25Speaker 1: a less striking, and therefore a more dangerous engine of
- 5:29Speaker 1: arbitrary government end quote. And as a remedy for this
- 5:36Speaker 1: fatal evil, he is everywhere peculiarly emphatical in his encomiums
- 5:41Speaker 1: on the Habeas Corpus Act, which in one place he
- 5:44Speaker 1: calls quote the bulwark of the British Constitution end quote.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Nothing need be said to illustrate the importance of the
- 5:52Speaker 1: prohibition of titles of nobility. This may truly be denominated
- 5:56Speaker 1: the quarterstone of the Republican government. For so long as
- 5:59Speaker 1: they are excluded, there can never be serious danger that
- 6:01Speaker 1: the government will be any other than that of the people.
- 6:06Speaker 1: To the second, that is, to the pretended establishment of
- 6:09Speaker 1: the common and state law by the Constitution, I answer
- 6:13Speaker 1: that they are expressly made subject quote to such alterations
- 6:17Speaker 1: and provision as the legislatures shall from time to time
- 6:20Speaker 1: make concerning the same end quote. They are therefore, at
- 6:24Speaker 1: any moment liable to repeal by the ordinary legislative power,
- 6:28Speaker 1: and of course have no constitutional sanction. The only use
- 6:32Speaker 1: of the declaration was to recognize the ancient law and
- 6:35Speaker 1: to remove doubts which might have been occasioned by the Revolution.
- 6:39Speaker 1: This consequently can be considered as no part of a
- 6:42Speaker 1: declaration of rights, which under our constitutions must be intended
- 6:45Speaker 1: as limitations of the power of government itself. It has
- 6:51Speaker 1: been several times truly remarked that bills of rights are
- 6:55Speaker 1: in their origin stipulation between kings and their subjects, abridgments
- 6:59Speaker 1: of pragueative in favor of privilege, reservation of rights not
- 7:03Speaker 1: surrendered to the prince. Such was the Magna Carta obtained
- 7:07Speaker 1: by the baron's sword in hand from King John. Such
- 7:10Speaker 1: were the subsequent confirmations of that charter by succeeding princes.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Such was the Petition of Right assented to by Charles
- 7:16Speaker 1: the First in the beginning of his reign. Such also
- 7:20Speaker 1: was the Declaration of Right presented by the Lords and
- 7:22Speaker 1: Commons to the Prince of Orange in sixteen eighty eight,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and afterwards thrown into the form of an Act of
- 7:28Speaker 1: Parliament called the Bill of Rights. It is evident therefore,
- 7:32Speaker 1: that according to their primitive signification, they have no application
- 7:36Speaker 1: to constitutions professedly founded upon the power of the people
- 7:39Speaker 1: and executed by their immediate representatives and servants. Here, in strictness,
- 7:45Speaker 1: the people surrender nothing, and as they retain everything, they
- 7:48Speaker 1: have no need of particular reservations. Quote, we the people
- 7:53Speaker 1: of the United States, to secure the blessings of liberty
- 7:56Speaker 1: to ourselves and our posterity, do Ordain an Assis establish
- 8:00Speaker 1: this constitution for the United States of America. Here is
- 8:05Speaker 1: a better recognition of popular rights than volumes of those
- 8:08Speaker 1: aphorisms which make the principal figure in several of our
- 8:11Speaker 1: states bills of rights, and which would sound much better
- 8:13Speaker 1: in a treatise of ethics than in a constitution of government.
- 8:18Speaker 1: But a minute detail of particular rights is certainly far
- 8:21Speaker 1: less applicable to the constitution, like under consideration, which is
- 8:25Speaker 1: merely intended to regulate the general political interests of the nation,
- 8:28Speaker 1: than to a constitution which has the regulation of every
- 8:31Speaker 1: species of personal and private concerns. If therefore, the loud
- 8:36Speaker 1: clamors against the plan of the Convention on this core
- 8:38Speaker 1: are well founded, no epithets of reprobation will be too
- 8:42Speaker 1: strong for the constitution of the state. But the truth
- 8:45Speaker 1: is that both of them contain all which, in relation
- 8:48Speaker 1: to their objects, is reasonably to be desired. I go
- 8:52Speaker 1: further and affirm that bills of rights in the sense
- 8:55Speaker 1: and to the extent which they are contended for, are
- 8:58Speaker 1: not only unnecessary in the post Constitution, but would even
- 9:02Speaker 1: be dangerous. It would contain various exceptions the powers not granted,
- 9:07Speaker 1: and on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext
- 9:10Speaker 1: to claim more than were granted. For why declare that
- 9:13Speaker 1: things shall not be done which there is no power
- 9:15Speaker 1: to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that
- 9:18Speaker 1: the liberty of the press shall not be restrained when
- 9:21Speaker 1: no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed.
- 9:25Speaker 1: I will not contend that such a provision would confer
- 9:27Speaker 1: a regulating power, but it is evident that it would
- 9:30Speaker 1: furnish to men disposed to usurp a plausible pretense for
- 9:34Speaker 1: claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of
- 9:38Speaker 1: reason that the Constitution ought not to be charged with
- 9:40Speaker 1: the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority
- 9:43Speaker 1: which was not given, And that the provision against restraining
- 9:46Speaker 1: the liberty of the press afforded the clear implication that
- 9:49Speaker 1: a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended
- 9:52Speaker 1: to be vested in the national government. This may serve
- 9:56Speaker 1: as a specimen of the numerous handles which be given
- 9:58Speaker 1: to the doctrine of constructive ours by the indulgence of
- 10:01Speaker 1: an injudicious zeal for Bills of rights. On the subject
- 10:07Speaker 1: of liberty of the press, as much as has been said,
- 10:10Speaker 1: I cannot forbear airing a remark or to In the
- 10:12Speaker 1: first place, I observe that there is not a syllable
- 10:15Speaker 1: concerning it in the Constitution of the state. In the
- 10:18Speaker 1: next I contend that whatever has been said about it
- 10:21Speaker 1: and that of any other state, amounts to nothing. What
- 10:25Speaker 1: signifies a declaration that quote, the liberty of the press
- 10:28Speaker 1: shall be inviolably preserved? What is the liberty of the press?
- 10:33Speaker 1: Who can give it any definition which would not leave
- 10:35Speaker 1: the utmost latitude for evasion? I hold it to be impracticable,
- 10:40Speaker 1: And from this I infer that its security, whatever fine
- 10:42Speaker 1: declarations may be inserted in any constitution respecting it must
- 10:46Speaker 1: altogether depend on public opinion and on the general spirit
- 10:50Speaker 1: of the people and of the government. And here after all,
- 10:55Speaker 1: as is intimated upon another occasion, we must seek for
- 10:58Speaker 1: the only solid basis of all our rights. There remains
- 11:03Speaker 1: but one other view of this matter. To conclude the point.
- 11:07Speaker 1: The truth is, after all the decocamations we have heard,
- 11:09Speaker 1: that the Constitution is itself, in every rational sense and
- 11:13Speaker 1: to every useful purpose, a bill of rights. The several
- 11:17Speaker 1: bills of Rights in Great Britain form its constitution, and conversely,
- 11:21Speaker 1: the constitution of each state is its bill of rights,
- 11:24Speaker 1: and the proposed Constitution, if adopted, will be the bill
- 11:27Speaker 1: of rights of the Union. Is it one object of
- 11:30Speaker 1: a bill of rights to declare and specify the political
- 11:32Speaker 1: privileges of the citizens in the structure and administration of
- 11:36Speaker 1: the government. This is done in the most ample and
- 11:39Speaker 1: precise manner in the plan of the convention, comprehending various
- 11:43Speaker 1: precautions for the public security, which are not to be
- 11:46Speaker 1: found in any of the state constitutions. Is another object
- 11:50Speaker 1: of a bill of rights to define certain immunities and
- 11:52Speaker 1: modes of proceeding which are relative to personal and private concerns.
- 11:56Speaker 1: This we have seen has also been attended to in
- 11:58Speaker 1: a variety of cases in the same plan. Adverting therefore,
- 12:02Speaker 1: to the substantial meaning of a bill of rights, it
- 12:05Speaker 1: is absurd to allege that is not to be found
- 12:07Speaker 1: in the work of the Convention. It may be said
- 12:10Speaker 1: that it does not go far enough that it will
- 12:12Speaker 1: not be easy to make this appear. But it can,
- 12:15Speaker 1: with no propriety be contended that there is no such thing.
- 12:19Speaker 1: It certainly must be immaterial what modis observed as to
- 12:22Speaker 1: the order of declaring the rights of the citizens, if
- 12:25Speaker 1: they are to be found in any part of the
- 12:26Speaker 1: instrument which establishes the government. And hence it must be
- 12:30Speaker 1: apparent that much of what it has been said on
- 12:32Speaker 1: this subject rests merely on verbal and nominal distinctions, entirely
- 12:36Speaker 1: foreign from the substance of the thing. Another objection, which
- 12:40Speaker 1: has been made, and which from the frequency of repetition
- 12:44Speaker 1: it is presumed as relied on, is of this nature. Quote.
- 12:48Speaker 1: It is improper, say the objectors, to confer such large
- 12:51Speaker 1: powers as are proposed upon the national government, because the
- 12:54Speaker 1: seat of that government must, of necessity be be too
- 12:57Speaker 1: remote for many of the states to admit of a
- 12:59Speaker 1: proper knowledge on the part of the constituent of the
- 13:01Speaker 1: conduct of the represented body. This argument, if it proves anything,
- 13:07Speaker 1: proves that there ought to be no general government whatever,
- 13:11Speaker 1: For the powers which it seems to be agreed on
- 13:13Speaker 1: all hands ought to be vested in the Union cannot
- 13:16Speaker 1: be safely entrusted to a body which is not under
- 13:18Speaker 1: every requisite control. But there are satisfactory reasons to show
- 13:23Speaker 1: that the objection is, in reality not well founded. There is,
- 13:27Speaker 1: in most of the arguments which relate to a distance,
- 13:29Speaker 1: a palpable illusion of the imagination. What are the sources
- 13:33Speaker 1: of information by which the people in Montgomery County must
- 13:36Speaker 1: regulate their judgment of the conduct of their representatives in
- 13:39Speaker 1: the state legislature? A personal observation, they can have no benefit.
- 13:44Speaker 1: This is confined to the citizens on the spot. They
- 13:48Speaker 1: must therefore depend on the information of intelligent men in
- 13:51Speaker 1: whom they confide. And how must these men obtain their information?
- 13:56Speaker 1: Evidently from the complexion of public measures, from the public prints,
- 13:59Speaker 1: from the correspondences with the representatives and with other persons
- 14:03Speaker 1: who reside at the place of their deliberations. This does
- 14:06Speaker 1: not apply to Montgomery County only, but to all the
- 14:09Speaker 1: counties at any considerable distance from the seat of government.
- 14:13Speaker 1: It is equally evident that the same sources of information
- 14:16Speaker 1: will be open to the people in relation to the
- 14:18Speaker 1: conduct of their representatives in the general government, and the
- 14:21Speaker 1: impediments to a prompt communication which distance may be supposed
- 14:24Speaker 1: to create, will be overbalanced by the effects of the
- 14:26Speaker 1: vigilance of the state governments. The executive and legislative bodies
- 14:31Speaker 1: of each day will be so many sentinels over the
- 14:33Speaker 1: persons employed in every department of the national administration, And
- 14:37Speaker 1: as it will be in their power to adopt and
- 14:39Speaker 1: pursue a regular and effectual system of intelligence, they can
- 14:42Speaker 1: never be at a loss to know the behavior of
- 14:44Speaker 1: those who represent their constituents in the national councils, and
- 14:48Speaker 1: can readily communicate the same knowledge to the people. Their
- 14:52Speaker 1: disposition to apprise the community of whatever may prejudice its
- 14:55Speaker 1: interests from another quarter may be relied upon if it
- 14:58Speaker 1: were only from the rivalship of power, And we may
- 15:01Speaker 1: conclude with the fust assurance that the people, through that
- 15:04Speaker 1: channel will be better informed of the conduct of their
- 15:06Speaker 1: national representatives than they can be by any means they
- 15:10Speaker 1: now possess of that of their state representatives. It ought
- 15:15Speaker 1: also to be remembered that the citizens who inhabit the
- 15:17Speaker 1: country at and near the seat of government, will, in
- 15:20Speaker 1: all questions that affect the general liberty and prosperity, have
- 15:23Speaker 1: the same interest with those who at a distance, and
- 15:26Speaker 1: that they will stand ready to sound the alarm when necessary,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and to point out the actors in any pernicious project.
- 15:33Speaker 1: The public papers will be expeditious messengers of intelligence to
- 15:37Speaker 1: the most remote inhabitants of the Union. Among the very
- 15:42Speaker 1: curious objects which have appeared against the proposed Constitution, the
- 15:45Speaker 1: most extraordinary and least colourables derived from the want of
- 15:48Speaker 1: some provision respecting the debts due to the United States.
- 15:53Speaker 1: This has been represented as a tacit relinquishment of those debts,
- 15:57Speaker 1: and as a wicket contrivance to screen public defaulters. The
- 16:01Speaker 1: newspapers have teemed with the most inflammatory railings on this head.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Yet there is nothing clearer than that the suggestion is
- 16:07Speaker 1: entirely void of foundation, the offspring of extreme ignorance or
- 16:10Speaker 1: extreme dishonesty. In addition to the remarks I've made upon
- 16:15Speaker 1: the subject in another place, I shall only observe that.
- 16:18Speaker 1: As it is a plain dictative common sense, so it
- 16:21Speaker 1: is also an established doctrine of political law that quote,
- 16:25Speaker 1: states neither lose any of their rights, nor are discharged
- 16:28Speaker 1: from any of their obligations by a change in the
- 16:30Speaker 1: form of their civil government end quote. The last objection
- 16:35Speaker 1: of any consequence which I at present recollect turns upon
- 16:38Speaker 1: the article of expense. If it were even true that
- 16:42Speaker 1: the adoption of the proposed government with occasion a considerable
- 16:45Speaker 1: increase of expense, it would be an objection that ought
- 16:48Speaker 1: to have no weight against the plan. The great bulk
- 16:52Speaker 1: of the citizens of America are, with reason convinced that
- 16:55Speaker 1: the Union is the basis of their political happiness. Men
- 16:59Speaker 1: of sense of all parties, now, with few exceptions, agree
- 17:02Speaker 1: that it cannot be preserved under the present system, nor
- 17:05Speaker 1: without radical alterations. That new and extensive powers ought to
- 17:09Speaker 1: be granted to the national head, and that these require
- 17:12Speaker 1: a different organization of the federal government, a single body
- 17:16Speaker 1: being an unsafe depository of such ample authorities. In conceding
- 17:21Speaker 1: all this, the question of expense must be given up,
- 17:24Speaker 1: for it is impossible with any degree of safety to
- 17:26Speaker 1: narrow the foundation upon which the system is to stand.
- 17:30Speaker 1: The two branches of the legislature are, in the first instance,
- 17:33Speaker 1: to consist of only sixty five persons, which is the
- 17:36Speaker 1: same number of which Congress under the existing confederation may
- 17:39Speaker 1: be composed. It is true that this number is intended
- 17:43Speaker 1: to be increased, but this is to keep pace with
- 17:45Speaker 1: the progress of the population and resources of the country.
- 17:50Speaker 1: It is evident that a less number would, even in
- 17:52Speaker 1: the first instance, have been unsafe, and that a continuance
- 17:55Speaker 1: of the present number would, in a more advanced stage
- 17:57Speaker 1: of population, be a very inadequate representation of the people.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Whence is the dreaded augmentation of expense to spring. One
- 18:07Speaker 1: source indicated is the multiplication of offices under the new government.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Let us examine this a little. It is evident that
- 18:16Speaker 1: the principal departments of the administration under the present government
- 18:19Speaker 1: are the same which will be required under the new.
- 18:22Speaker 1: There are now a Secretary of War, a Secretary of
- 18:25Speaker 1: Foreign Affairs, a Secretary for Domestic Affairs, a Board of
- 18:29Speaker 1: Treasury consisting of three persons, a treasurer, assistance clerch, etc.
- 18:34Speaker 1: These officers are indispensable under any system, and will suffice
- 18:37Speaker 1: under the new as well as the old. As to
- 18:41Speaker 1: ambassadors and other ministers and agents in foreign countries, the
- 18:44Speaker 1: proposed Constitution can make no other difference than to render
- 18:47Speaker 1: their characters where they reside, more respectable and their services
- 18:51Speaker 1: more useful. As the persons to be employed in the
- 18:54Speaker 1: collection of revenues, it is unquestionably true that these will
- 18:58Speaker 1: form a very considerable addition to the number or federal officers.
- 19:01Speaker 1: But it will not follow that this will occasion an
- 19:03Speaker 1: increase of public expense. It will be, in most cases
- 19:07Speaker 1: nothing more than an exchange of state for national officers.
- 19:11Speaker 1: In the collection of all duties. For instance, the persons
- 19:14Speaker 1: employed will be wholly of the latter description. The States
- 19:17Speaker 1: individually will stand in no need of any for this purpose.
- 19:21Speaker 1: What difference can it make in point of expense to
- 19:23Speaker 1: pay officers of the customs appointed by the state or
- 19:26Speaker 1: by the United States. There is no good reason to
- 19:30Speaker 1: suppose that either the number or the salaries of the
- 19:32Speaker 1: latter will be greater than those of the former. Where
- 19:37Speaker 1: then are we to seek for those additional articles of
- 19:39Speaker 1: expense which are to swell the account to the enormous
- 19:42Speaker 1: size that has been represented to us. The chief item
- 19:46Speaker 1: which occurs to me respects the support of judges of
- 19:48Speaker 1: the United States. I do not add the President, because
- 19:51Speaker 1: there is now a President of Congress whose expenses may
- 19:54Speaker 1: not be far, if anything, short of those which will
- 19:56Speaker 1: be incurred on account of the President of the United States.
- 20:00Speaker 1: The support of the judges will be clearly an extra expense.
- 20:03Speaker 1: But to what extent will depend on a particular plan
- 20:05Speaker 1: which may be adopted in regard to this matter. But
- 20:09Speaker 1: upon no reasonable plan can amount to a sum which
- 20:11Speaker 1: will be an object of material consequence. Let us now
- 20:15Speaker 1: see what there is to counterbalance any extra expense that
- 20:18Speaker 1: may attend to the establishment of the proposed government. The
- 20:21Speaker 1: first thing which presents itself is that a great part
- 20:24Speaker 1: of the business which now keeps Congress sitting through the
- 20:26Speaker 1: year will be transacted by the President. Even the management
- 20:30Speaker 1: of foreign negotiations will naturally devolve upon him, according to
- 20:33Speaker 1: the general principles concerned within the Senate and subject to
- 20:36Speaker 1: their final concurrence. Hence, it is evident that a portion
- 20:40Speaker 1: of the year will suffice for the session of both
- 20:42Speaker 1: the Senate and the House of Representatives. We may suppose
- 20:46Speaker 1: about a fourth for the latter, and a third or
- 20:48Speaker 1: perhaps half for the former. The extra business of treaties
- 20:52Speaker 1: and appointments may give this extra occupation to the Senate.
- 20:56Speaker 1: From this circumstance, we may infer that until the House
- 20:59Speaker 1: of Reports and it shall be increased greatly beyond its
- 21:01Speaker 1: present number, there will be a considerable saving of expense
- 21:05Speaker 1: from the difference between the constant session of the present
- 21:08Speaker 1: and the temporary session of the future Congress. But there
- 21:13Speaker 1: is another circumstance of great importance in the view of economy.
- 21:16Speaker 1: The business of the United States has hithertoto occupy the
- 21:19Speaker 1: state legislatures as well as Congress. The latter has made
- 21:23Speaker 1: requisitions which the former have had to provide for. Hence,
- 21:26Speaker 1: it has happened that the sessions of the state legislatures
- 21:29Speaker 1: have been protracted greatly beyond that which was necessary for
- 21:32Speaker 1: the execution of the mere local business of the states.
- 21:36Speaker 1: More than half their time has been frequently employed in
- 21:38Speaker 1: matters which related to the United States. Now, the members
- 21:42Speaker 1: who composed the legislatures of the several states amount to
- 21:45Speaker 1: two thousand and upward, which number has hitheroto performed what
- 21:48Speaker 1: under the new system will be done in the first
- 21:50Speaker 1: instance by sixty five persons, and probably at no future
- 21:54Speaker 1: period by above a fourth or fifth of that number.
- 21:59Speaker 1: The Congress and of the proposed government will do all
- 22:01Speaker 1: the business of the United States themselves, without the intervation
- 22:05Speaker 1: of the state legislatures, who thenceforth will have only to
- 22:08Speaker 1: attend to the affairs of their particular states, and it
- 22:10Speaker 1: will not have to sit in any proportion as long
- 22:12Speaker 1: as they have heretofore done. This difference in the time
- 22:16Speaker 1: of the sessions of the state legislatures will be clear gain,
- 22:19Speaker 1: and will alone form an article of saving, which may
- 22:22Speaker 1: be regarded as an equivalent for any additional objects of
- 22:25Speaker 1: expense that may be occasioned by the adoption of the
- 22:27Speaker 1: new system. The result from these observations is that the
- 22:32Speaker 1: sources of additional expense from the establishment of the proposed
- 22:35Speaker 1: Constitution are much fewer than may have been imagined, that
- 22:39Speaker 1: they are counterbalanced by considerable objects of saving, and that,
- 22:42Speaker 1: while it is questionable on which side the scale will preponderate,
- 22:46Speaker 1: it is certain that a government less expensive would be
- 22:48Speaker 1: incompetent to the purposes of a union. Publius end Federal's
- 22:55Speaker 1: Paper at number eighty four Federalist number eighty five by
- 23:01Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton, concluding remarks to the people of the State
- 23:04Speaker 1: of New York. According to the formal division of the
- 23:08Speaker 1: subject to these papers announced in my first number, there
- 23:12Speaker 1: would appear still to remain for discussion two points quote
- 23:15Speaker 1: the analogy of the proposed government to your state Constitution,
- 23:19Speaker 1: end quote, the additional security which its adoption will afford
- 23:23Speaker 1: to a republican government to liberty and to property. But
- 23:27Speaker 1: these heads have been so fully anticipated and exhausted in
- 23:30Speaker 1: the progress of the work, that it would now scarcely
- 23:32Speaker 1: be possible to do anything more than repeat in a
- 23:35Speaker 1: more dilated form, what has been heretofore said, which the
- 23:38Speaker 1: advanced stage of the question, and the time already spent
- 23:40Speaker 1: upon it, conspired to forbid. It is remarkable that the
- 23:45Speaker 1: resemblance of the plan of the Convention to the Act
- 23:47Speaker 1: which organizes the government of the State holds not less
- 23:50Speaker 1: with regard to many exposed defects than to the real
- 23:53Speaker 1: excellences of the former. Among the pretended defects are the
- 23:58Speaker 1: re eligibility of the executive, the want of a council,
- 24:01Speaker 1: the omission of a formal bill of rights, the omission
- 24:04Speaker 1: of a provision respecting the liberty of the press. These
- 24:08Speaker 1: and several others which have been noted in the course
- 24:10Speaker 1: of our inquiries, are as much chargeable on the existing
- 24:13Speaker 1: constitution of this state as on the one proposed for
- 24:16Speaker 1: the union. And a man must have slender pretensions to
- 24:19Speaker 1: consistency who can rail at the latter for imperfections which
- 24:23Speaker 1: he finds no difficulty in excusing in the former. Nor, indeed,
- 24:27Speaker 1: can there be a better proof of the insincerity and
- 24:29Speaker 1: effectation of some of the zealous adversaries of the plan
- 24:33Speaker 1: of the Convention among us who profess to be the
- 24:35Speaker 1: devoted admirers of the government under which they live, than
- 24:38Speaker 1: the fury with which they have attacked that plan for
- 24:41Speaker 1: matters in regard to which our own constitution is equally
- 24:45Speaker 1: or perhaps more vulnerable. The additional securities to Republican government,
- 24:50Speaker 1: to liberty, and to property, to be derived from the
- 24:53Speaker 1: adoption of the plan under consideration, consists chiefly in the
- 24:57Speaker 1: restraints which preservation of the union will impose on the
- 24:59Speaker 1: las local factions and insurrections, and on the ambition of
- 25:03Speaker 1: powerful individuals in single states who may acquire credit and
- 25:06Speaker 1: influence enough from leaders and favorites to become the desputs
- 25:10Speaker 1: of the people. In the diminution of the opportunities to
- 25:14Speaker 1: foreign intrigue which the dissolution of the Confederacy would invite
- 25:17Speaker 1: and facilitate, and the prevention of extensive military establishments which
- 25:21Speaker 1: could not fail to grow out of wars between the
- 25:24Speaker 1: estates of the disunited situation, in the express guarantee of
- 25:28Speaker 1: a republican form of government to each, in the absolute
- 25:32Speaker 1: and universal exclusion of titles and nobility, and in the
- 25:35Speaker 1: precautions against the repetition of those practices on the part
- 25:38Speaker 1: of state governments which have undermined the foundations of property
- 25:41Speaker 1: and credit, have planted mutual distrust in the breast of
- 25:44Speaker 1: all classes of citizens, and have occasion an almost universal
- 25:48Speaker 1: prostration of morals. Thus have I, fellow citizens, executed the
- 25:55Speaker 1: task I had assigned to myself with what success your
- 25:58Speaker 1: conduct must determine, I trust, at least to will admit
- 26:01Speaker 1: that I have not failed in the assurance I gave
- 26:03Speaker 1: your respecting his spirit with which my endeavors should be conducted.
- 26:07Speaker 1: I have addressed myself purely to your judgments, and have
- 26:10Speaker 1: studiously avoided those asperities which are too apt to disgrace
- 26:13Speaker 1: political disputants of all parties, and which have been not
- 26:16Speaker 1: a little provoked by the language and conduct of the
- 26:19Speaker 1: opponents of the constitution. The charge of a conspiracy against
- 26:23Speaker 1: the liberties of the people, which has been indiscriminately brought
- 26:26Speaker 1: against the advocates of the plan, has something in it
- 26:29Speaker 1: too wanton and too malignant not to excite the indignation
- 26:32Speaker 1: of every man who feels in his own bosom a
- 26:35Speaker 1: refutation of the calumny. The perpetual changes which have been
- 26:39Speaker 1: rung upon the wealthy, the well born, and the great
- 26:43Speaker 1: have been such as to inspire the disgust of all
- 26:46Speaker 1: sensible men. And the unwarrantable concealments and respresentations which have been,
- 26:51Speaker 1: in various ways practiced to keep the truth from the
- 26:54Speaker 1: public eye have been of a nature to demand the
- 26:56Speaker 1: reprobation of all honest men. It is not possible that
- 27:00Speaker 1: these circumstances may have occasionally betrayed me into the intemperances
- 27:03Speaker 1: of expression which I did not intend. It is certain
- 27:07Speaker 1: that I frequently felt a struggle between sensibility and moderation,
- 27:11Speaker 1: and if the former has, in some instances prevailed, it
- 27:14Speaker 1: must be my excuse that has been neither often nor much.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Let us now pause and ask ourselves whether, in the
- 27:22Speaker 1: course of these papers, the proposed Constitution has not been
- 27:25Speaker 1: satisfactorily vindicated from the aspersions thrown upon it, and whether
- 27:30Speaker 1: it has not been shown worthy of the public approbation
- 27:34Speaker 1: and necessary to the public safety and prosperity. Every man
- 27:39Speaker 1: is bound to answer these questions to himself according to
- 27:42Speaker 1: the best of his conscience and understanding, and to act
- 27:46Speaker 1: agreeably to the genuine and sober dictates of his judgment.
- 27:50Speaker 1: This is a duty from which nothing can give him dispensation.
- 27:54Speaker 1: It is one that is called upon, nay constrained by
- 27:57Speaker 1: all the obligations that form the bands of society. Is
- 28:00Speaker 1: charged sincerely and honestly. No partial motive, no particular interest,
- 28:06Speaker 1: no pride of opinion, no temporary passion or prejudice, will
- 28:09Speaker 1: justify to himself, to his country, or to his posterity,
- 28:13Speaker 1: an improper election of the part he is to act.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Let him beware of an obstinate adherence to party. Let
- 28:20Speaker 1: him reflect that the object upon which he is to
- 28:23Speaker 1: decide is not a particular interest of the community, but
- 28:26Speaker 1: the very existence of the nation. And let him remember
- 28:30Speaker 1: that a majority of America has already given its sanction
- 28:33Speaker 1: to the plan which he is to approve. Or reject.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I shall not assemble that I feel an entire confidence
- 28:41Speaker 1: in the arguments which recommend the proposed system to your adoption,
- 28:45Speaker 1: and that I am unable to discern any real force
- 28:48Speaker 1: in those by which it has been opposed. I am
- 28:51Speaker 1: persuaded that it is the best which our political situation, habits,
- 28:55Speaker 1: and opinions will admit, and superior to any of The
- 28:58Speaker 1: revolution has produced concessions on the part of the friends
- 29:03Speaker 1: of the plan, that it has not a claim to
- 29:05Speaker 1: absolute perfection, have afforded matter of no small triumph to
- 29:09Speaker 1: its enemies. Why say they should we adopt an imperfect thing?
- 29:14Speaker 1: Why not amend it and make it perfect before it
- 29:16Speaker 1: is irrevocably established. This may be plausible enough, But it
- 29:22Speaker 1: is only plausible in the first place. I remark that
- 29:26Speaker 1: the extent of these concessions has been gradually exaggerated. They
- 29:30Speaker 1: have been stated as amounting to an admission that the
- 29:32Speaker 1: plan is radically defective, and that without material alterations, the
- 29:36Speaker 1: rights in the interest of the community cannot be safely
- 29:38Speaker 1: confided to it. This, as far as I have understood
- 29:42Speaker 1: the meaning of those who make the concessions, is an
- 29:44Speaker 1: entire perversion of their sense. No advocate of the measure
- 29:48Speaker 1: can be found who will not declare as his sentiment
- 29:52Speaker 1: that the system, though it may not be perfect in
- 29:54Speaker 1: every part, is, upon the whole a good one, is
- 29:57Speaker 1: the best that the present, fused and circumstances of the
- 29:59Speaker 1: country will permit, and is such an one as promises
- 30:03Speaker 1: every species of security which a reasonable people can desire.
- 30:09Speaker 1: I answer in the next place that I should esteem
- 30:11Speaker 1: it the extreme of imprudence to prolong the precarious state
- 30:14Speaker 1: of our national affairs, and to expose the union to
- 30:17Speaker 1: the jeopardy of successive experiments. In the chimerical pursuit of
- 30:21Speaker 1: a perfect plan, I never expect to see a perfect
- 30:25Speaker 1: work from imperfect man. The result of the deliberations of
- 30:29Speaker 1: all collective bodies must necessarily be a compound as well
- 30:33Speaker 1: of the errors and prejudices, as of the good sense
- 30:36Speaker 1: and wisdom of the individuals of whom they are composed.
- 30:40Speaker 1: The compacts which are to embrace thirteen distinct states in
- 30:43Speaker 1: a common bond of amityan union must as necessarily become
- 30:46Speaker 1: promised as of many dissimilar interests and inclinations. How can
- 30:51Speaker 1: perfection spring from such materials? The reasons assigned it an
- 30:56Speaker 1: excellent little pamphlet lately published in this city are unanswerable
- 31:01Speaker 1: to show the utter improbability of assembling a new convention
- 31:04Speaker 1: under circumstances in any degree so favorable to a happy
- 31:07Speaker 1: issue as those in which the Late Confession met, deliberated
- 31:11Speaker 1: and concluded. I will not repeat the arguments there used,
- 31:15Speaker 1: as I presume the production itself has had an extensive circulation.
- 31:19Speaker 1: It is certainly well worthy the perusal of every friend
- 31:21Speaker 1: to his country. There is, however, one point of light
- 31:25Speaker 1: in which the subject of amendments still remains to be considered,
- 31:28Speaker 1: and in which it has not yet been exhibited to
- 31:30Speaker 1: public view. I cannot resolve to conclude without first taking
- 31:34Speaker 1: a survey of it. In this aspect, it appears to
- 31:38Speaker 1: me susceptible of absolute demonstration that will be far more
- 31:40Speaker 1: easy to obtain subsequent than previous amendments to the Constitution.
- 31:45Speaker 1: The moment an alteration is made in the present plan,
- 31:48Speaker 1: it becomes to the purpose of adoption a new one,
- 31:50Speaker 1: and must undergo a new decision of each state to
- 31:54Speaker 1: its complete establishment throughout the Union. It will therefore require
- 31:57Speaker 1: the concurrence of thirteen states. If, on the contrary, the
- 32:02Speaker 1: Constitution proposed should once be ratified by all the states
- 32:05Speaker 1: as it stands, alterations in it may at any time
- 32:08Speaker 1: be affected by nine states. Here, then the chances are
- 32:12Speaker 1: as thirteen to nine, in favor of subsequent amendment, rather
- 32:15Speaker 1: than of the original adoption of an entire system. This
- 32:20Speaker 1: is not all. Every constitution for the United States must
- 32:24Speaker 1: inevitably consist of a great variety of particulars in which
- 32:27Speaker 1: thirteen independent states are to be accommodated in their interests
- 32:30Speaker 1: or opinions of interest. We may, of course expect to
- 32:34Speaker 1: see in anybody of men charged with its original formation,
- 32:38Speaker 1: very different combination of the parts upon different points. Many
- 32:42Speaker 1: of those who form a majority on one question may
- 32:44Speaker 1: become the minority on a second, and an association dissimilar
- 32:48Speaker 1: to either may constitute the majority on the third. Hence
- 32:52Speaker 1: the necessity of molding and arranging all the particulars which
- 32:55Speaker 1: are to compose the whole in such a manner as
- 32:58Speaker 1: to satisfy all the parties to the compact, and hence
- 33:01Speaker 1: also an immense multiplication of difficulties and casualties in obtaining
- 33:06Speaker 1: the collective assent of a final act. The degree of
- 33:10Speaker 1: that multiplication must evidently be in a ratio to the
- 33:12Speaker 1: number of particulars and the number of parties. But every
- 33:17Speaker 1: amendment to the Constitution, if once established, would be a
- 33:21Speaker 1: single proposition, and might be brought forward singly. There would
- 33:25Speaker 1: then be no necessity for management or compromise in relation
- 33:29Speaker 1: to any other point. No giving nor taking the will
- 33:33Speaker 1: of the requisite number would at once bring the matter
- 33:35Speaker 1: to a decisive issue. And consequently, whenever nine or rather
- 33:40Speaker 1: ten states were united, than the desire of a particular amendment,
- 33:43Speaker 1: that amendment must infallibly take place. There can therefore be
- 33:48Speaker 1: no comparison between the facility of affecting an amendment and
- 33:51Speaker 1: that of establishing, in the first instance, a complete constitution.
- 33:57Speaker 1: In opposition to the probability of subsequent amendments, it has
- 34:00Speaker 1: been urged that the persons delegated to the administration of
- 34:03Speaker 1: the national Government will always be disinclined to yield up
- 34:06Speaker 1: any portion of the authority of which they were once possessed.
- 34:11Speaker 1: For my own part, I acknowledge a thorough conviction that
- 34:13Speaker 1: any amendments which may, upon mature consideration be thought useful,
- 34:18Speaker 1: will be applicable to the organization of the government, not
- 34:21Speaker 1: to the mass of its powers. And on this account alone,
- 34:26Speaker 1: I think there is no weight in the observation just stated.
- 34:30Speaker 1: I also think there is little weight in it on
- 34:33Speaker 1: another account. The intrinsic difficulty of governing thirteen states at
- 34:37Speaker 1: any rate, independent of calculations upon an ordinary degree of
- 34:40Speaker 1: published spirit and integrity, will, in my opinion, constantly impose
- 34:45Speaker 1: on the national ruler's necessity of a spirit of accommodation
- 34:49Speaker 1: to the reasonable expectations of the constituents. But there is
- 34:53Speaker 1: yet a further consideration which proves, beyond the possibility of
- 34:56Speaker 1: a doubt, that the observation is futile. It is this
- 35:00Speaker 1: that the national rulers, whenever nine states concur will have
- 35:04Speaker 1: no option upon the subject. By the fifth article of
- 35:08Speaker 1: the Plan, the Congress will be obliged, quote, on the
- 35:11Speaker 1: application of the legislatures of two thirds of the states,
- 35:14Speaker 1: which at present amount to nine, to call a convention
- 35:16Speaker 1: for proposing amendments which shall be valid to all intents
- 35:20Speaker 1: and purposes as part of the Constitution, when ratified by
- 35:23Speaker 1: the legislatures of three fourths of the states, or by
- 35:26Speaker 1: convention in three forts thereof end quote. The words of
- 35:30Speaker 1: this article are peremptory. The Congress quote, shall call a
- 35:34Speaker 1: Convention end quote. Nothing in this particular is left to
- 35:37Speaker 1: the discretion of that body, And of consequence all the
- 35:42Speaker 1: declamation about the disinclination to change vanishes an error. Nor,
- 35:47Speaker 1: however difficult it may be supposed in unite two thirds
- 35:50Speaker 1: or three fourths of the state legislatures in amendments which
- 35:52Speaker 1: may affect local interests, can there be any room to
- 35:55Speaker 1: apprehend any such difficulty in a union on points which
- 35:58Speaker 1: are merely relative the deject ner liberty or security of
- 36:01Speaker 1: the people. We may safely rely on the disposition of
- 36:05Speaker 1: the state legislatures to erect bearers against the encroachments of
- 36:08Speaker 1: the national authority. If the foregoing argument is a fallacy,
- 36:14Speaker 1: certain it is that I am myself deceived by it,
- 36:17Speaker 1: For it is, in my conception, one of those rare
- 36:19Speaker 1: instances in which the political truth can be brought to
- 36:22Speaker 1: the test of a mathematical demonstration. Those who see the
- 36:26Speaker 1: matter in the same light with me, however zealous they
- 36:28Speaker 1: may be for amendments, must agree in the propriety of
- 36:31Speaker 1: a previous adoption as the most direct road to their
- 36:34Speaker 1: own object. The zeal for attempts to amend prior to
- 36:39Speaker 1: the establishment of the Constitution must debate in every man
- 36:42Speaker 1: who is ready to accede to the truth of the
- 36:44Speaker 1: following observations of a writer equally solid and ingenious quote
- 36:50Speaker 1: to balance a large state of society, says he, whether
- 36:53Speaker 1: monarchical or republican, on general laws is a work of
- 36:56Speaker 1: so great difficulty that no human genius, however comprehendsis of
- 37:00Speaker 1: is able by the mere dint of reason and reflection
- 37:02Speaker 1: to effect it. The judgments of many must unite in
- 37:06Speaker 1: the work. Experience must guide their labor, time must bring
- 37:10Speaker 1: it to perfection, and the feeling of inconveniences must correct
- 37:13Speaker 1: the mistakes which they inevitably fall into their first trials
- 37:17Speaker 1: and experiments. Footnote Hume Essays, Volume one, page one, twenty eight,
- 37:22Speaker 1: The Rise of Arts and Sciences. These judicious reflections contain
- 37:27Speaker 1: the lesson of moderation to all the sincere lovers of
- 37:29Speaker 1: the Union, and ought to put them upon their guard
- 37:32Speaker 1: against hazarding anarchy, civil war, a perpetual alienation of the
- 37:36Speaker 1: states from each other, and perhaps the military despotism of
- 37:39Speaker 1: a victorious demagogue, in the pursuit of what they are
- 37:42Speaker 1: not likely to obtain, but from time and experience it
- 37:46Speaker 1: may be in me a defect of political fortitude, but
- 37:49Speaker 1: I acknowledge that cannot entertain an equal tranquility with those
- 37:53Speaker 1: who affect to treat the dangers of a longer continuance
- 37:56Speaker 1: in our present situation as imaginary. A nation without a
- 38:00Speaker 1: national government is, in my view, an awful spectacle. The
- 38:04Speaker 1: establishment of a constitution in time of profound peace, by
- 38:08Speaker 1: the voluntary consent of a whole people is a prodigy
- 38:12Speaker 1: to the completion of which I look forward with trembling anxiety.
- 38:16Speaker 1: I can reconcile it to no rules of prudence to
- 38:18Speaker 1: let go the hold we now have in so arduous
- 38:21Speaker 1: an enterprise upon seven out of the thirteen states, and
- 38:24Speaker 1: after having passed over so considerable a part of the
- 38:27Speaker 1: ground to recommence the course, I dread the more the
- 38:31Speaker 1: consequences of the new attempt, because I know that powerful
- 38:34Speaker 1: individuals in this and in other states are enemies to
- 38:38Speaker 1: a general national government in every possible shape. Publius, end
- 38:46Speaker 1: of Federalist Number eighty five. End of Federalist Papers,