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Super Mario Bros Sequel… Worth It or Not? · Brainwaves

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There are some episodes of Two Shot Tuesday you wait a week to
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see or hear. And there are some episodes of
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Two Shot Tuesday you've been excited about for the entire
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year. And this is one of those
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episodes. My name is Jason Riley.
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I'm here with Barry Nixon and the movie guy Rob Peetz to talk
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about an exciting cinematic event.
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Gentlemen, let me greet you both.
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Hello and welcome to our show. Well, hello to.
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Be with you, Jay. Nice.
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Good to see you. Robert it's like 2 guys have to
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talk and then it's do I wait? Do I wait, do it?
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And then everybody goes at the same time.
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That's classic podcast. That's what we.
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Expect Rob, what have you been up to since we last spoke?
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What haven't I been up to? Just craziness.
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It's it's craziness. I I mean, I see a movie every
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day, so there's that. Because I'm the movie guy.
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That's what I got to do. Yeah.
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Movie a day and also work. So it's a lot.
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It's a lot. Guys.
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Yeah, absolutely. That's me, Barry.
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How about you guys? What are you guys doing?
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What have you been? I'm doing the same thing, movie
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a day and working. That's all we do over here,
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yeah. That's all.
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I don't. Do a movie a day.
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I do a comic book a day and working and sometimes a movie.
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Yeah, I work that in when I can. That's that's just how exciting
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we are. But we need to get you to get a
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movie a day. I got to try it maybe, but
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that's the runtime is what kills me.
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The runtime I can't commit to sitting in one place for 90
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minutes plus. Well, guess what?
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The movie we're talking about today fits right in your suite.
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Wheelhouse, Jay. I come out of it just 129.
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Perfect. OK, I like this pretty good.
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We've got a format on the show. Why don't we start with the
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first shot of the night and then you guys can tell us what movie
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you saw and I will prod you with questions, as always.
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Rob, why don't you kick us off? What's your shot tonight?
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My shot is actually just more water, really.
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It's bubbly, but it's pomegranate blueberry.
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It's it's an interesting flavor smash up and it relates directly
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to the movie, which I'll explain in the next shot.
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OK, nice. Very cool.
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I'm sticking with tried and true.
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And Jay, you know, I've been so excited to see this return to
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our local Jameson Black Barrel and yourself.
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Yeah, I'm trying to get through the Whistler.
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I think the Whistler which we talked about, Yeah, last show,
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something like that. I can't remember when, but
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anyway, it's a tough one, but I'm doing the Whistler.
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Gentlemen, to your good health. Chinzano.
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Jay, that's the same reaction you had last.
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Week Sharp. Very sharp.
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Yeah. OK, Barry, you better take it.
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What are we talking? About today, All right, we are
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talking about Super Mario Galaxy, which is the sequel to
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Super Mario Brothers. It came out.
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Was it 2 years ago Robbie or just last year I think.
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It's who knows. Yeah, I'm somewhere in.
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There anymore? Yeah.
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Yeah, couple years. At the very longest, two years
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ago. Anyway, it has Chris Pratt
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returning as Mario and Charlie Day of Always Sunny in
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Philadelphia as Luigi and Jack Black plays.
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Was he Bowser? Bowser.
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I mean, it's loaded. It's.
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Yeah, it's loaded. We also have.
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It's a bit of a strange 1, though.
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You pointed this out, Rob, that Yoshi is voiced by Donald Glover
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and all he says is his own name. That's it.
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Yep. Like they got Donald Glover for
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that. Also, Keegan, Michael Key, I
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believe, has a role where he doesn't talk a lot, but he's in
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it. Yeah.
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They're happy to hear that. Anya Taylor Joy plays Peach,
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which is, you know, she has a pretty substantial role.
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And Alison Brie. Alison Brie, is it?
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Or Alice Brie Larson. Brie Larson, Yeah, yeah.
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She plays. What was it, Rosalina?
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Yeah, the other Princess. Yeah.
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Are these Albert? I didn't know there was.
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Like some of them are new, some of them are old.
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Yeah, some of them were part of the first one.
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And then then there's been a couple of new additions,
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including Yoshi and Rosalina. OK, well, what did you think?
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Take us through it. Take the experience.
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Even before the theater. I need to hear about how this
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came to be. Why Super Mario Brothers?
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I'm a little bit surprised. Barry, you yourself would want
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to go see an animated. Feature I'll let Barry take.
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Well, this one for sure, yeah. Yeah, I was happy to I was happy
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to go. I enjoyed the last one was, you
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know, Rob, say let's go. I mean, we I played Super Mario
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as a kid and great. These movies are fun on the big
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screen, especially in IMAX. Although one thing Rob noticed
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and I noticed is this movie, while shown in the IMAX theater,
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did not take up the entire screen.
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What? Yeah, this is a.
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Realm of projection, yeah. Yeah.
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So that was a little. Unfortunate.
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So it's not shot for IMAX or produced in IMAX.
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It was just they're not even on that beer and charged you IMAX
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prices. Yeah, that's.
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Correct. Yeah, that is disappointing
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right there. That is, Was there an audible
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groan from either one of you 2 gentlemen when that happened?
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When you noticed extra screen that you weren't.
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I mean, it came out pretty quickly.
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I was like, this, this, this ain't IMAX.
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This is just a 70mm projection on a big screen.
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So that's disappointing. This is what it is.
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All right, but who's like the first time, Rob, was your idea?
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I don't. I think we just kind of as, as a
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team decided that we should probably go see the second one
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since we we saw the first one and had fun with it.
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Yeah, I will go on the record and say that that Barry is not
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an animated film guy. He doesn't really like animated
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films. Computer animated films in
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general tends to avoid them. I think he's probably seen a
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few, but I know that's not his favorite genre.
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It's often my stance in recent years.
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Yes, over the years I think the Spider Man movies might have
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helped. And you know.
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Those were good. And Sausage Party.
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Oh my God, that is a That's a funny one, AJ, but we're getting
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off topic. Yeah, yeah.
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But still, it all ties to the whole animation thing, because I
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also would not think you would go to a theater to see it.
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You went there. How was the popcorn situation?
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In this case, you learned from the last because you didn't go
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to the VIP. So did you get what you wanted
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or did you? Have anyone I got what I wanted
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and all that extra fake butter that you can just from the
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dispenser just keep pressing that button until your heart's.
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Content. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it was great. Dripping I.
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Went hot dog bag. What?
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Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I went full hot dog.
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I kind of just needed something because it was like a four.
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I think we saw a 450 show on a Friday.
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It was like I should probably eat something before this
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starts. So I grabbed something, I guess.
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I don't know. It was decent.
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It was a decent hot dog. I thought you might have had the
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fish because it was Good Friday, but you you pivoted to the
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Wiener. That's good meat.
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Yeah, I don't think there was a fish offering at the theater.
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It's not something that came out OK.
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Oh, you missed the halibut altogether.
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You didn't see that? No, there's no.
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Fish in a cone. Can you imagine the price of
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halibut in a theater? I mean, it's already on its own.
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It's like $75.00 at a theater. Absolutely.
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That'll be $100 for that. Fish and chips, please.
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Yeah, it's not out. No, but but.
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Imagine it in a cone. It'd be even more money.
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Yeah, and I would that's. A tartar way.
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On top, yeah. See, I'd swallow that down hole,
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yeah. I know you would.
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Yeah, okay, okay, before we get into the actual movie, sorry you
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took me back to We still haven't.
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Got that? It's kind of amazing.
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Before we get to the movie, 1 pro move Barry Nixon on the fake
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butter. I don't know if you've ever
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tried this, but I have done it. You get a.
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Packet of salt, and you put it with the butter it tastes like
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because it's kind of just wet the artificial topping, throw a
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little extra salt on there. It's like pure butter.
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I'm just telling. You heart attack city man.
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I say go for it. I mean, I'll be with you, so
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I'll just call an ambulance. Thank you.
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Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's not healthy for you, but do
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it anyway. OK.
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Let's hear about the movie itself.
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Take us. Yeah, Who wants to kick us off
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wrong? The movie, The movie is a kids
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movie. We found out fairly quickly
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there isn't much of A plot line on this particular one.
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The first one didn't have much of one either, but there was a
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bit of a origin story. So there was a little more of a
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plot line. This one is.
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Yeah, basically, I don't know, man.
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There was, there was. The plot was very thin, but not
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not in a bad way. It just didn't really need to be
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there. I guess you're just giving Mario
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and Co excuses to Mario. Mario them with their way
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through the worlds and see all sorts of cool visuals and kind
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of with the back story of of reuniting Rosalina with Peach
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with if anyone knows anything about the the background of
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those characters, they know that they're related.
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So that's kind of what this is, is kind of bringing them
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together for the first time. In a long time reunion story.
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Yeah, and there were kids in the theater.
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It was. Yeah.
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Not really. Maybe first, is it opening day?
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It was opening night, I believe, Yeah, but it was an afternoon,
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so there wasn't, no, I think it would have been probably packed
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at 8:00 PM or something. But it was a 450 show.
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So there were a couple of families there and probably like
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probably 30 people all in or something.
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Wasn't, wasn't packed. But we did notice the kids
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laughing a lot, so that was good.
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I noticed kid, kid laughter at places that I wasn't laughing
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in. So at least it was working for
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the kids and that that's kind of what matters, I guess, in a
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movie like this. Well, that's the target audience
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after all. Yeah, and I do think this was
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dumbed down. This was dumbed down.
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Yeah, this was. This wasn't quite like from.
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The original even. Yeah, I think the first one had
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appeal to kind of everyone. This one felt much more like a
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kids movie with visual feast for everyone kind of thing.
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So it was a beautiful animated illumination movie.
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You know, the guys that make Despicable Me and and Minions,
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Nintendo is smart for using them as their as their kind of
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animated people to make these movies because they do a good
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job and they know, they know the humor, they know what kids like,
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they know what people like. So they're kind of injecting a
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bunch of that stuff in. But yeah, I mean.
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Animation was super. Simple.
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Yeah. Beautiful.
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Yeah, it's really cool. Like moments and cameos of sort
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of taking you to like, sorry to what was it like the roulette?
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What was it like the casino and stuff like that.
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That was a really cool. Gambling.
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Yeah, it was fun. And the kids get them started
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early. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. You got it right, by the way.
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That was that was Lily Guzman in the role of that of that bad guy
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that was in the casino. Yeah, he was like the Toad bad
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guy that he was another one of the Koopas or something.
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I don't know. One of those.
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Some of the characters I wasn't familiar with because I I have
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not played every single Mario iteration that's ever been
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released. Yeah, the story was like Rob
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said, it was kind of dumbed down.
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There were a lot more like very childlike voiced characters that
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were not present in the first movie.
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But again, the target audience is definitely skewing younger,
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so that was cool. Yeah.
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The the story was just more like a it was a reunion.
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It was trying to get two sisters back together essentially is
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what it was with some fighting and some other stuff along the
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way. But some of the best sequences.
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And I leaned over a couple times to Rob during the movie to sort
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of point this out. And you, I think you sort of
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noticed it as well. Any of the scenes where there
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was like the cameras behind the characters and they're just kind
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of zooming through the landscape was just awesome.
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Like they're, they're flying through the air, they're running
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all over the place. Like it's just really cool.
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Just the way that you had a real sense of motion, which is cool.
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And it wasn't 3D, but it kind of at moments felt like it.
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Yeah, it was, it was very video gamey.
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It was, it was, it was a, it was a gamey gamified type movie.
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Yeah, it was good. I mean, it was.
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And they had some terrible, like old school.
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They had some old school footage that rob you said it wasn't
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actual game footage, but it looked like it.
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They had inserts from like Mario 2 and Mario 3.
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And like, you know, the old battles where it would be like
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Mario versus Bowser. And then he would have to do
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something that makes the bridge disappear and then he would just
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fall into the lava. Like they would insert some of
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those those scenes and I don't know, to my eye it looked like
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gameplay. But Rob's like, yeah, it just it
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was made to look like gameplay. But I test our movie guy, he's
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got an eye it. Was close enough.
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It was almost like they used that game Mario, Super Mario
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Creator, where you could kind of create your own level.
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So it had that old school look to it, but I think it was
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probably just made-up for the movie.
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But because they wanted to show you a fight sequence and then
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show you it from like a computer display of how a bad guy's
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looking at it on a computer display.
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And it's the old school video game look, right?
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That's a classic move. They do that all the time.
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Yeah. All right, we're going to do
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shot #2 does the celebration of you 2 seeing this movie and then
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do it. We're going to talk a little bit
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more about it and what you're hoping for and what you've got.
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First of all, Barry, what have you got?
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I'm sticking with the Jameson black barrel jam.
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Rob. Bubbly Blueberry Pomegranate.
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And the reason it ties to Mario is because I believe the box.
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I believe they're they're sponsoring it.
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The box has Mario and Luigi all over.
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It all right, I'm sticking with the the Whistler.
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OK, I hope this one is a little less chunky for you.
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Cheers. Cheers.
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OK, boy. That Whistler is more like a
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screamer. I got to tell you, you do not
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look like a happy man. It hits every part of your
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mouth. You can't make it jump over the
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tongue. If you try it's.
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Like an assault. It's like a reverse.
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Whistle, it's an assault. It's an internalized whistle.
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It's a backwards whistle up the ass, basically, is what it is.
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Yeah, yeah, it. Is.
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Tough. It is tough.
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OK, So what have I got to ask about Mario Brothers?
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I'm not sure. You've talked about the runtime.
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You've talked about the thin clean.
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Yep. Yet it was you were compelled to
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go after just seeing the first movie, so.
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Yeah, was it? Was it like, how much of A
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downgrade was it in terms of plot like the first one that
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good? They like, we got to go see the
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sequel and then to be so not disappointed, maybe
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disappointed, maybe just like to not get what you're wanting.
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Is it like a real step back? Maybe 25% less plot, something
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like that. Yeah, because you're not,
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there's no origin. Nice.
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You're really just kind of you guys just.
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Really want to go hang out together, Yeah.
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That was a Good Friday as well you have.
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To see a movie a day, you know, every day we're seeing a movie.
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This is one of those movies. That's all there is to do.
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Sometimes you. Yeah, yeah.
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I will, I will say that there was there was some cameos in the
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movie and I'm not going to give away too many of them.
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The only one I will give away is because they stupidly, in my
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mind, they have a poster for it. I mean, I couldn't believe they
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put a poster up for this. It's the biggest cameo in the
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movie is Fox McLeod Starflox from from the original Starflox
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games has a huge cameo in this movie and it plays a integral
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role in getting him in through the Galaxy.
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And they they, they put him on a poster in his own poster.
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So they kind of gave that away in, in the poster in the
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advertising. But other than that, there are
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definitely some other other cool cameos that that are for for
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fans of the game. Those are the things I enjoyed
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was seeing the sort of, you know, stuff for, for I worked
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for Nintendo at one point. So I know the, I know the.
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Stuff. Did they do anything?
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Did they do anything to connect it to the John Leguizamo and
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what's his name, Bob Haskins Movie.
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Not anything. Hoskins.
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Not anything like never a nod, don't even I've.
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Seen that in so long I I wouldn't know if they did or
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not. That's the thing, I think.
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There's a 4K release? It might have been, I don't
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remember in the first movie. I probably did.
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I don't remember if in the first movie they they tried using did
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they use jump boots or something to kind of a mild nod to the
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original movie where they had to use jump boots.
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I don't know. I could be the.
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Interest of this moving along, let's just say, yeah, yeah, they
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did. Yeah, they totally did.
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Yeah. Just in the interest.
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Totally did, man. Yeah, and you were right about
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the Star Fox cameo, by the way. That was voiced by Glenn Powell
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and he did a great job. He just, I thought it originally
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was Bradley Cooper, but it turned out to be Glenn Powell.
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He was great. Just gave that he had that right
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amount of SAS and he did help to drive the plot along to the
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extent that there was a plot. And Jack Black also, he was
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really fun as Bowser that like the beginning is kind of where
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he had his funny bits. But then as we kind of went on,
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it was more about his son. But.
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Bowser Junior. Yeah, so again, he kind of skews
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towards the kiddies, you know, because Bowser Junior needs to
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have his day in the sun, which he did.
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One thing Jack Black didn't do was was sing, and that was
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disappointing. He he he had a great song in the
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first one. Yeah, he did sing in this one,
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which was kind of weird. I was expecting him to bust out
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in the song at any given moment and it never happened.
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I think he might have something. Worked well, you think whatever
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worked well you, they do more of it, but they didn't.
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I want to hear. Let's go to star rating and
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final thoughts on this movie. Barry, why don't you kick us off
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with star rating? Star rating, I would say it's I
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mean, I it was enjoyable, but again, there wasn't really much
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beyond the visuals to hold your attention.
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So I 12, I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to say it's probably a 2.5
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out of five. Right.
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Not terrible. It looked great.
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There were lots of moments where I was like, oh, that's pretty
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cool. And the animation is absolutely
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beautiful. You can actually see, like,
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details on the skin and on their clothing, which is really hard
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to kind of render, I guess, in a in a animated sense.
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But they were able to do it. Yeah.
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And I thought the voice acting was great.
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Everyone who was in the film, they were good at what they were
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doing. All right.
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Yeah. Yep, Mr. Rob Petes.
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Well, I'm going to agree with Barry.
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It was a it was a 2 1/2 as far as movies are concerned is
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pretty average. But I would say for kids, it's
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maybe a three 3 1/2. I think for kids, kids will have
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fun with it. And I could, you know, just the
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laughter in the room from from the kids that were there, I
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think was enough to sort of make me feel like this is a a kids
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movie. I mean, more than I never
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thought that in the first one. In the first one, I thought this
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is for everyone. This one, I'm like, this is a
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kids movie. It's definitely more aimed at
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kids. They're trying to keep it.
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They're trying to keep it going with the the kid audience, which
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is, which is fine. I mean, it makes sense.
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Yeah, that's their bread and butter.
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That's what Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles did.
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Like the first one was kind of kids, but it was darker.
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And then they lighten it right up for two.
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And then 3 was really. Yeah.
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So I think you do, you kind of start leaning into, you start
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selling some lunch boxes and you start leaning into that
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audience. All right.
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Also, but you know, I'm not sure about the budget, but budgets
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get better as well. Sorry, I was just budgets,
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budgets, budgets get lower on some of these other movies.
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With this one, the budget might have been the same.
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I don't know. Yeah, on the meeting, Ninja.
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Turtle, please follow. Oh yeah, that one there clearly
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got less and less because they went on to each movie.
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Rob, once again, thank you for coming here.
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A movie a day you brought us into your world once again.
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Barry as well going to see animation.
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A huge step forward for you. Thank you enthusiastically.
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I'm trying to grow. It's a leap.
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That's a leap. That's a leap forward.
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Yeah, yeah. It is all right, gentlemen,
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thank you so much. We look forward to hearing your
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next movie review when you come back on the show and take us
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through whatever's happening this crazy spring and summer.
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